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Final: Pirates 3, Marlins 2


Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (16-18) vs. Miami Marlins (18-16)

Time: 7:10 p.m.

Site: Marlins Park, Miami

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score. Rob Biertempfel is adding to his list of new stadiums. For those interested in more, here’s the Marlins’ official stadium page.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Jose Tabata, RF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  5. Casey McGehee, 1B
  6. Alex Presley, LF
  7. Rod Barajas, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Brad Lincoln, RHP


  1. They should bat Lincoln 7th.

  2. Had a real fun weekend at PNC. Nothing like seeing two wins in a row. But back to “real” life I guess.

    The window is officially open!!

    Tonight’s OVER / UNDER (always just for fun of course)

    Total Innings Pitched by Brad Lincoln
    Line is 4.5
    (If Brad Lincoln records 2 outs in the Fifth inning the OVER wins, anything less than that the UNDER wins.)

    Anyone can play!! What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!

    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) +80
    Officer Mancuso +20
    Nate83 +20
    RobertoForever +15
    JohninOshkosh EVEN
    Milo Hamilton EVEN
    Steve J Smith -60
    JRay3 -70

  3. Presley batting 6th.
    Batting Barajas 7th, keeping his blogging up the bases away from the top of the order.
    Giving Barmes a chance to get some walks from the 8 hole.
    McGeheeheehee instead of Garrett Jones.


  4. Presley in the 6 hole. Interesting

  5. McGehee instead of Jones today. But McGehee had to be pinch hit for last night in the lefty/righty extravaganza!Something isn’t jiving. Did Hurdle fall in love with McLouth’s istory against Myers or is Jones just hitting that poorly? And if it is Jones hitting poorly, how is that different from the rest of the team?

  6. @PhillyJake

    Very funny, gave me a good chuckle late in the work day.

    I’m still a firm believer of law of averages and based on their career numbers Barmes and Barajas will bat .230 even in a bad year and more then likely will rebound to something around that number. The fact that we are 16-18 while having practically the equivalent of 4 pitchers batting between those two, the third outfielder and the pitcher is absolutely amazing.

    Just imagine what just scoring 4 runs a game would do for this team if the pitching holds up? Which I think it will better then last year. Lincoln seems well served as a middle releiver and when Karstens and Bedard come back I have to imagine Correia goes there as well. Mortan has to stay in the starting rotation because of his ground ball rate. A team that doesn’t score many runs can’t afford to give up 3 run dingers.

    Let’s hope that if they hold up just 3-4 weeks longer then they did last year they go get someone like Lee and Ludwick last year. Maybe even a young first baseman like Trumbo that can be kept and signed for a long term answer at First Base.

  7. 20 on the over. Thanks.

  8. Groat,

    I don’t do Facebook and Twitter is just to read DK, 24/7, etc. No mention on there. Your secret is safe with us. We won’t tell anyone about it unless JAL writes a column on it.

  9. Nate, you got it, good luck!!

  10. NMR,

    The jury is still out on your Kansas City hitting comment on previous stream.

    Royals record is only 2 1/2 games worse than the Pirates right now and I like their hitting (and fielding). I think Royals are closer to 1st in the standings than the Buccos.

    Let’s revisit this issue after 60 games instead of 34! I sure wish the Bucs had KC’s 1st baseman!

    Plus, Richie Zisk called and wants to talk with you about your comment vis-a-vie “the best minor league stockpile in baseball history.”

  11. @JAL-
    Thanks for the correction on the EPL/Champions League. Thinking one, typed the other.

    The final day of the Barclays English Premier League… yesterday, incredible drama. Would figure you had at least half an eye on how things finished, but with your schedule I imagine you didn’t have much time for it. It was a wildly entertaining, crazy finish to the season. Lots of huge emotional swings for fans of several teams, principally Man City and Man U.

  12. I’ve stumbled into the soccer Twilight Zone.

    If I believed in purgatory, I’m sure this is what it would be like!

  13. That famous Kovacevic wit got a shout out in Biertempfel’s blog entry.

  14. Groat (the astute blog poster who used to love baseball),

    It’s all those low-scoring games the Pirates have been in. You think you’re watching soccer.

  15. Lucky…. you nailed it… Groat, you missed one helluva day on the pitch. Just know that the Manchester City fans rejoiced like PBC fans will if/when they reach the post-season.

  16. I will take 20 on the over as well.

  17. Naje

    Thought you just mixed the two up. There was some Champions League drama as Arsenal held on the beat W Brom 3-2. Had they lost or tied Tottenham would have finished 3rd and clinched a Champions League spot.

  18. Jeffsbar, welcome to the window!! You got it, and good luck!!

  19. @ Playoffs – way to bring us back 2 W’s…ok time to get one of your over /unders….let’s go with 50 on the over, I am out in Vegas with work may have to play it here as well!

    Nice to read how our top level GM is not even considering upgrading the offense today, to me that is just offensive!

    Interesting lineup, Clint is certainly getting creative with things, do like trying Walker in the 2 hole and dropping Alex until he gets back on track. Jones not in versus the RHP, do not know what to make of that.

    All things considered we are within 4 of the division and 3 of the last WC spot, let’s start this tough road trip on the right note! Let’s Go Bucs!

  20. JAL-
    Got that drama on the Champions League as well… really enjoyed both the EPL and the Champions League action this year… some terrific competition.

  21. Jray, Thanks, you got it and good luck!!

    P.S. – Put a 5 on the YO 11 for me at the craps table.

  22. Johnnie Ray III,

    That Wild Card crap is a farce!

    Think of the WONDERFUL ending of the 2011 season that would have meant absolutely nothing because the Braves and the Red Sox would have automatically made that fraud 1-game playoff. On the road!

    It’s decisions by Bud Selig like these that actually make his All Star tie game decision seem wise!!!!!!!

  23. @Groat

    I agree with you, but if the Bucs ever make the 5th spot for the playoffs, I won’t complain.

  24. @ Groat – do not disagree at all and your All-Star tie line is hysterical, tell me how you really feel.

    Although I do not like it, I do agree with @ Playoffs if I am ever to see the Buccos in it I will be dancing for joy.

  25. I am hopeful (as always, before first pitch). Give me 20 undefined units on the OVER!

  26. JaxBuc, welcome to the window!! You got it, and good luck!!

  27. @Playoffs

    Put me down for 50 on the over…

    Lincoln’s going at least 7.

  28. anybody notice who is tearing up the international league?

  29. I’m not sure what to think of tonight’s lineup.

    Maybe its just CH playing around and trying to find something that works.

    McGeheehehehehe over Jones today is kinda strange.

    Presley in the 6 hole is too, but I like Tabata leading off right now, better AB’s, better approach. I also like NW in the 2 hole.

    Who knows, if this lineup puts up 5 runs I won’t be complaining…trot them all out there again tomorrow unitl it breaks…

  30. @patrick

    Eldred or Pearce??

    Who cares? Eldred just got DFA’d by the Sox (I think) and Pearce is Pearce. Great AAA players but garbage in the Bigs..

  31. Sorry, make that DFA’d by Detroit….close

  32. @Playoffs, I’m going to get crazy and try and get back even and go over for 60. Thanks for helping to cheer on the two wins over the weekend.

  33. @Groat

    I’m not typically one to defend the commishioner of any league…however, to only look at last season and call teh added wild card game a farce is ridiculous. The previous two seasons the last few days of the season meant absolutely nothing, but would have if there was another wild card. i don’t think the addition of the 1 game playoff for the wild card increases the chance of a more meaningful last day of the season. I don’t think it decreases it either. What it does do is guarantee a day where there are two games that mean a whole heck of a lot to the four teams playing in them. That is one guaranteed day of excitment compared to a 50/50 shot of excitment for game 162.

  34. And Mrlins Park is not what the doctor ordered for this offense. That place is cavernous. Even worse than Petco. And when the humidity sets in this summer, nothing is going to get out of that place. But, if Cutch, Tabata, or Pressley get one into the gap tonight, they might still be running this time tomorrow.

  35. Steve and Ryan, you got it!! Good Luck!!

  36. @playoffs.

    I’m riding my wave…plus if I lose, I’m not that bad off.

  37. @AJS

    I’ll take any gap shots, don’t care about dingers. They tend to kill rallies, doubles do not.

  38. @Ryan

    The window appreciates your gambler’s spirit!!

  39. If Presley stares at another 3rd strike right down the middle — I may throw my remote control at the TV.

    Dude —- protect the plate with 2 strikes — that’s all I expect !!!

  40. I’m not nearly as sold as some that Pearce is a AAA player. At least once he seemed to be getting untracked when he was injured and put on the shelf for the rest of the year. Sure, he had some problems at the plate – but I’m not totally convinced this guy’s done in the bigs yet. Twins DFA’d him out of spring training this year but I understand he was sick much of the time there. I’ll watch with interest if the Yankees give him a callup at some point … And if he stays this hot, well, let’s just say even the Tigers called Eldred up for a little “tryout” before they DFA’d him. I didn’t know he’d been DFA’d. Man, if a guy can hit that many home runs at AAA to start off the year, then get DFA’d, they must REALLY be convinced he’s no good for the big league level.

    Oh, and GO BUCS! Oh, and Philly Jake: I think they should bat Lincoln 7th, too … Who knows, might embarrass the Rally Killer B’s into doing something!

  41. thank goodness it isn’t real, I’d let it fly that way also!!

  42. I see Eldred cleared waivers and is back at Detroit’s AAA Toledo. He played Saturday.

  43. “like” Presley batting 6th. (Second lead off) If he gets on it will be no sacrifice having Barajas bunt!

  44. @Bay

    “I hit straight pitch very far, bend ones not so much”

    Scouts obviously see or dont see something with these guys. I think they are great for the AAA rosters as fill ins, but probably wont see much more time in the bigs unless a quick injury replacement.

  45. Groat2Maz etc

    I’d gladly let them keep the extra playoff game if they’d get rid of the DH.

  46. Baywatch,

    With Pearce’s constant health/injury issues and the spark of talent he’s shown, I think it’s a matter of whether he has enough desire to overcome the discouragement of it so far. It’s been a long time coming and he’s been almost there — and like Yogi said, ’90% of this game is half mental.”

  47. While we’re on Pearce, just a bit of trivia: His team, Scranton Wilkes-Barre, plays ALL their games on the road this year while they’re remodeling the park there! Well … they’re playing their “home” games in Rochester. Thought that was interesting. Guess they’re sharing that field with the Rochester Red Wings.

  48. @ playoffs

    I’ll take 20 on the over. thanks

  49. cosmo, welcome to the window!! You got it, and good luck!!

  50. Everyone going with the OVER so far. I love the optimism!!

  51. Lets get a win tonight as well as more sign ins to the blog

    Just post where you currently reside

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  52. Ryan, my man…Home runs “tend to kill rallies”?

    If thats the case, I’m going to be rooting for the Pirates to kill a rallly each inning tonight!

  53. Biz — Add, Iowa, Humboldt

    (If I ever get past the moderator) waiting half an hour. Must be something they do to new guys.

    DK: Yes, just first time. Welcome back!

  54. @ NMR-

    Exactly! The reason they “kill rallies” is because everyone scores!

  55. @Playoffs

    I was thinking the over, too. but then I see EVERYONE is going for the over.

    Did ‘the window’ make a mistake, or does the window know something that we don’t know.

    I’ll take the over for 25 as well.


  56. Roberto, you got it!! Good Luck!!

  57. @RobertoForever

    The window may have calculated this one wrong :)

    We shall see…..

  58. Lincoln can throw 40-45 pitches easy, 60 gets him on the radar screen

    20 on the over, please

  59. Bizrow, you got it. Good Luck!!

  60. @NMR

    That was more for the solo shots, but yea I’ll take one every inning.

    A 3 run homer works well, but I don’t think the Pirates know that information.

  61. The idea/logic of batting the pitcher eighth that LaRusso used a lot, and we emulated at times, was never clearly explained to my satisfaction, but as PhillyJake states in #1, we should bat Lincoln seventh.

    With this lineup, Lincoln is more of a threat than those Killer B’s to extend a rally and move Presley around – if Pres can get on. And Lincoln is a lefty.

    My fear is if Presley gets on anywhere, Hurdle would “attempt” to bunt with Lincoln, and take the bat out of the hands of a good hitter.

  62. Biz – Indiana, South Bend here

  63. @bizrow

    Add the Flood City, Johnstown, PA!

  64. DK —

    Thanks for the welcome back. Nice to see some familiar names here. Life’s become busier out on the prairie, so I probably will have to fight the addiction — like tonight I have a date with Mrs. H, but hello to everyone. I’m glad they put your name on the menu bar, makes the blog easier to find.

    Now just go beat the Marlins — and we’ll worry about the rest of the season one game at a time.

  65. The latest news bits

    MLB fired the arbitrator who overturned the Braun ban

    Matt Kemp to have MRI on hamstring

    Nats catcher Ramos out with torn ACL

    Cards released JT Romero

    Royals starter Duffy has torn ligament in elbow

  66. I sat thru 11 rain-soaked innings (and not under cover) yesterday at PNC on Mother’s Day. Nine of those innings were excruciating for this mama (1st and 9th were OK—but we should have scored MORE than one in each). This offense is now beyond offensive. Hubby and I have decided we’re only watching on DVR-delay for the foreseeable future, not willing to waste away hours of frustrating futility. Highlights yesterday, though—driving away from the ballpark to meet son at Redfin Blues (thanks, Dejan, for the Facebook heads up on the place last week!) for dinner and listening to the Pirates’ walk-off win along the way (sogginess was not all in vain). And THEN listening to said son (I did NOT recognize his voice!) win the 93.7 (the FAN) “you-make-the-Greg Brown-broadcast-call” contest as Brown would have if JMac had hit a walk-off dinger in his 12th inning pinchhitting role. Nice couple of punctuation marks to assuage the sting of…did I mention the OFFENSIVE offense?? It truly astounds me that the Bucs are just two games under after this miserable, sputtering start to the season. MUST DO SOMETHING to help our beleaguered pitchers! HELP!!!!!

  67. Good start to manufacture a run. Let’s go Mike and rest of the Buccos!

  68. Walk on the radio wanted to see the gimic after a homerun. Awful job. 1-1 i hope he’s happy

  69. There’s that “rally killer!” 2-1 Bucs back on top.

  70. 2-1 Bucs after the “rally killer.”

  71. Sorry for the duplication, the computer was being weird.

  72. JAL

    Feel badly for Danny Duffy. He has a good arm and has a good future.

    Nice story, Karen22,

  73. Heck of a catch by Morrison.

  74. Apparently Barajas and Barmes heard karen22′s plea for help.

    Prayers answered.

  75. That’s two 0-2 pitches in a row that were hit hard. That is not supposed to happen

  76. Alas, I’m almost always too late getting home from work in Chicago to play the fascinating over/under. Game’s underway, I haven’t peeked at the box score, and I betcha Lincoln pitches into the 6′th.

  77. Lincoln 53 pitches after 4.

  78. House pays for the 5 innings!! Now let’s go get that lead back!

  79. 2-2 after 5–about as good as one could expect from Lincoln.

  80. not too impressed with the Marlins new ballpark

  81. Mr. Lincoln does his job and the OVER wins!!!
    Everyone’s a WINNER tonight!!
    Thanks as always for playing, and I’ll have a new one for tomorrow!!
    Now let’s get some runs Bucs!!

    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) +130
    Nate83 +40
    RobertoForever +40
    Officer Mancuso +20
    jeffsbar +20
    JaxBuc +20
    cosmo +20
    Bizrow +20
    JohninOshkosh EVEN
    Milo Hamilton EVEN
    Steve J Smith EVEN
    JRay3 -20

  82. Cutch singles and Alvarez doubles him home–Pirates take 3-2 lead in 6th

  83. That is Pedro’s 100th RBI

  84. In his career.

  85. Also the pirates 100th run this season-took them 35 games to score 100 runs

  86. yes, in his MLB career

  87. The two slowest dude on the team think they have speed enough to beat out a bunt to the pitcher and steal a base. Result is two outs on the bases and NO runs.

  88. Trying to bunt the slowest man in baseball to third. Some teams find ways to manufacture runs. The Pirates find ways to shut down the production line. Barmes thrown out? Let’s just give the Marlins outs when we get guys on. Glad we have a lead. I hope we can hold it.

  89. Top of the seventh – a classic example of MISERABLE Hurdle-ball

  90. Our long-relief guy outdueled Sanchez tonight.

    Take us home bullpen. Should see Grilled Cheese and Hammer time tonight.

  91. Log in of inmates count is 169

    Through 7, 3-2 PBC

    Welcome to JHadar, RalphM and Irish

    169 is peanuts though if we can get all to sign in and I catch them

    Playoff, nice idea, that is fun

  92. Just wondering…

    The Marlins spent all that money this off season and all that got for C was .182 hitting John Buck.

  93. And Jose Reyes, don’t know if Buck is the top catcher on the club

  94. We need this


  96. Buck has 82 AB’s, more than Barajas

  97. Good start by Brad Lincoln supported by a nice opposite field RBI by Alvarez.

    I’m liking this at-bat by Alvarez against the lefty Randy Choate.

  98. Well, at least he battled.

  99. Three out on the basepaths tonight. It would have been interesting to see if Barajas would have put that fastball down the middle of the plate into play. If that was a hit and run, he didn’t try to hit it. It was likely a straight steal, but at least help the runner out some and distract the catcher a little with a swing. Come on Hammer!

  100. Raise the Jolly Roger and a three game winning streak!! Keep it going tomorrow!!!

  101. Pirates win third game in a row even with two runners getting caught stealing and another thrown out on a terrible Barmes bunt. They overcome being Hurdled.

  102. Good win, good tidings

  103. Lou Brown says this is called a winning streak.

  104. Fear the Bones!

    At some point in time shouldn’t they bring in a base running coach? I mean, a real honest to goodness base running coach. Wonder what Kenny Loftin or Tim Raines are up to.

  105. Being Hurdled??? If that’s what you want to call it…

    Hurdle is correct in trying to model this team to run, run, run. Yes, they give up outs now, but they have to find ways to make things happen. Barmes’ bunt was the problem: it went right back to the pitcher and Barajas had no chance. Barmes, dude, you’re an 8 year vet of the big leagues, you know how to bunt, just do your job.

    But the running is a culture change and the players better embrace it… it’s what the younger guys need to do, to see and to understand that this is how we’re going to play the game.

    The running is not for this year… it’s for building a winning franchise on a limited budget.

  106. Naje, I’m with you…for the most part. If this team is going to be aggresive on the base paths, somebody better do some coaching on how to steal a base. There’s no reason McCutchen and/or Presley shouldn’t be swiping bags almost at will. Both of those guys are beyond fast. Cutch has 6 SB but has been caught 3 times. Presley has 3 SB and has been caught 4 times. That’s insane!

  107. Really impressed with the pitching staff tonight. Lincoln with six solid innings and three scoreless from the pen. A win tomorrow night and we can begin the “.500 is/is not sustainable” debate. Oops. Just jinxed it.

    I do like when they’re playing the Marlins so I can get them on Fox Sports Florida. Only problem is I can’t understand the spanish Xfinity commercials.

  108. Raise it!

    Hope everyone can find the silver lining, lol.

    Love the Barajas contributions. Lincoln was stellar and outpitched the Marlins Ace.

  109. For naje and pattonbb, you are on to the problem which is – it is possible to be very fast but yet, not be able to run THE BASES when stealing.

    No less an authority on the art was Maury Wills and later on Lou Brock, who both said, “the first body movement must be left leg over toward the base you are stealing, THEN rotate your body and run like hell”. [I paraphrased slightly].

    If you rotate your first, you have already lost a step. If you are certain you are going to make the attempt, your weight must be toward your right side to drive off of your right leg, to step with left, rotate and go.

    That’s all I know about the subject

  110. Great win, let’s make it 4 in a row tomorrow.

  111. –Three out on the basepaths tonight. It would have been interesting to see if Barajas would have put that fastball down the middle of the plate into play. If that was a hit and run, he didn’t try to hit it. It was likely a straight steal, but at least help the runner out some and distract the catcher a little with a swing. Come on Hammer!

    Interesting comment. Wehner actually criticized barajas earlier for taking a swing and fouling a pitch off on what appeared to be a strait steal for Presley and not a hit and run based on the game situation. He said batters will usually take a pitch with two out and a steal on in hopes of getting the runner in scoring postion for them to drive in and not risking hitting into an out or fouling it off.

    Makes me wonder at what points is taking a cut to protect the runner appropriate and at what point is taking the pitch appropriate.

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