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Final: Nationals 7, Pirates 4


Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (17-19) vs. Washington Nationals (22-14)

Time: 7:10 p.m.

Site: Nationals Park, Washington, D.C.

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score. Rob Biertempfel can see the Capitol dome from his seat.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Jose Tabata, RF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Casey McGehee, 1B
  5. Yamaico Navarro, LF
  6. Rod Barajas, C
  7. Clint Barmes, SS
  8. Josh Harrison, 3B
  9. Erik Bedard, LHP


  1. NMR says:


  2. LuckyNKentucky says:


  3. NMR says:

    What did Bedard do to deserve that?

  4. Nate83 says:

    Wow now that is a line up. What is the combined average of hitters 4-8. I would have said 4-9 but I think Bedards batting average may raise the number a bit.

  5. LuckyNKentucky says:

    This lineup might hit 4 HR’s tonight, you never know. Navarro has one, McGeheehee is due, Cutch, Walker, Barajas could connect. Barmes has 2. Gonzalez’ current ERA is almost 2 runs lower than his career ERA, so he’s due for a thumping. We can dream, right?

  6. JHadar says:

    NMR — (From Previous Thread, RE: Catchers) … Yeah, I knew that, and maybe Barajas will “regress to the mean” but right now I’d take 62 points of BA at that position just for the difference between unexciting and awful.

    Also Catcher is one position where defense is actually as important as offense and the intangibles (pitch calling, trust between pitcher and catcher, even umpire relations) matter a little more. Those are the things I like about Barajas, but his hitting needs to get back at least to normal for him. His hitting is bad enough that defense and intangibles don’t cover it just now. Hopefully, maybe later.

    At least when he has hit, it’s been timely.

  7. Nate83 says:

    Maybe 4 home runs will be the over/under for tonight game. That could be the over/under for an entire weeks worth of games for the Pirates and I may still have to think about taking the under.

  8. JHadar says:

    Lucky — I admire optimism

  9. LuckyNKentucky says:



  10. JAL says:

    Hey now, power hitter on the bench, that is rare for the Pirates.

  11. JMB says:

    Presley down — Meek up.

  12. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Bob’ll be upset. He’s a big Presley fan.

  13. JAL says:

    They won’t send a hitter down for a pitcher except in a unique situation

  14. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Which is?

  15. JAL says:


    You were right, they actually did that but doubt it will be for long.

  16. JMB says:

    Maybe our long dreamed of Hanny for Trumbo trade is about to be consummated…a guy can dream.

  17. cmat0829 says:

    The PIrates needed to bolster the bullpen. Both “long” relievers, Lincoln and Hughes aren’t in position to go long if needed tonight. Lincoln won’t be ready to pitch likely until Detroit. With Bedard leaving his last start in the 2nd inning, would’ve been foolish not to have another bullpen arm ready to go a few innings tonight if needed. Hopefully it won’t be needed but……

    As to “The King”, this move had to be made. It isn’t just the fact that he isn’t hitting or getting on base to use his speed, it is the fact that he ISN”T EVEN MAKING CONTACT and his Ks are 2nd on the team only to Pedro. Add to that some obvious defensive lapses and it’s time for him to go down to Indy and figure it out.

    What will be interesting is what move the Bucs make for the Detroit series…can’t go into AL park with DH with bench one short of hitters….

  18. Nate83 says:

    I know Presley isn’t playing that well right now, but the other options are not that good and he has done it more recently then Nate. It is not as if we are sending him down because we have someone sitting on the bench that is batting .270 and that can play a good outfield defensively. Will Jones be getting some starts in right? I just don’t understand it. Less speed, worse defense. I think we should continue helping out our one strong point which is pitching by keeping speed in the outfield and not give up any extra outs.

  19. cmat0829 says:

    As to Hanny trade, don’t hold your breath. First factor is that closers are not as valuable as we think they are, at least in terms of trade return. Second factor is that Joel really hasn’t been pitching as well this year as he did the 1H of last year. And if they do need another closer, it most certainly will not be Mr. Meek. Cruz or Grilli will be just fine.

  20. cmat0829 says:

    Alex has struck out 30 times and walked 3…he has zero confidence at the plate..isn’t bunting and his defense is suffering. It isn’t about “what is on the bench” it is about what is best to get him back on track.

  21. Nate83 says:

    I definately see your point and actually agree with you after you gave those stats, but I just can’t imagine they move forward for any length of time with the third outfielder being Harrison/Jones/McClouth. They have to bring up Grossman or something.

  22. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Grossman is around .230 in Altoona. Won’t see him for a while.

  23. RobertoForever says:

    Barajas actually has a good track record against Gonzalez in his 3 AB’s

    1 for 3 with 1 HR and 1 K.

  24. JAL says:


    Yes, but Grossman has started hitting so it like he might have adjusted to AA–.306 last 10 games with 2 HRs

  25. RobertoForever says:

    If we are talking about hitters doing well in the short term, Barajas is batting .385 with an 1.154 OPS in the last 7 days

  26. cmat0829 says:

    Really will be interesting to see who they call up to replace Meek for Presley’s spot. On one hand it could be Gorkys if they want to keep speed/defense option. On other hand it could be Hague as he was up already with GI Jones shifting to OF. Doubt it will be Marte as they won’t “rush” him because of a need on the big club (which is the right call by the way…see Alvarez, Pedro.)

    Could be either Fox or Evans if they just want a veteran bat to handle DH for interleague play.

    Sad part of this is that hard to see Alex getting another shot especially if Marte progresses as Pirates hope he will. If Marte keeps hitting at Indy, then I’d expect he’d be in Pittsburgh by July 1.

  27. LuckyNKentucky says:

    You’re right, JAL. I’m one of his biggest fans. Like to see him at least end in AAA this year.

  28. JRay3 says:

    Well the move to send Presley down surprises a little bit but Clint’s quote of there not being enough at bats up here to continue his development speaks volumes.

    Once can assume that this means we will be seeing Jake Fox up in time for the weekend series versus the Tigers.

    Also can I put a motion to flip flop Correia and Lincoln in who stays in the rotation and who pitches long relief. Just do not feel very confident in Correia and feel it is time to give Brad his shot.

    Tonight’s over/under may be runs for the Bucs tonight and 1.5 might be the appropriate line, interested to see how we generate offense this evening.

  29. AJS says:

    We say yikes about this line up. I said it when I first saw it too. but what really happened here? Pedro gets a day off. That was going to happen at some point and tonight is a tough left handed match up.

    With no Presley demoted Navarro as a righty over McLouth as a lefty is a no brainer. You might think Jones is in line to start at first with McGehee at third. That is the only change I would make to teh line up. But it can be argued that the extra right handed bat of Harrison may be a better option than Jones left handed bat against any left hander. He just flails against lefties.

    To be honest with all the names thrown around in that ramble, aren’t they all just interchangable terrible hitters. We react this way because these aren’t the normal starters, not because they are any worse than the norm.

  30. RobertoForever says:

    Just looking at the 4 starters for the 2 games.

    All 4 under 2.60 ERA, but only 1 has a winning record. Both pitchers tonight are strikeout whizs this season as well.

    Over/Under for runs must be around 5.5

  31. AJS says:

    JRay – The same way the generate offense with any other line up they have in there…they won’t. Pedro is teh only real loss to this line up for his potential to go yard. But he ahs been struggling a bit of late as well. he has been some what productive in the RBI category, but I think the several walks he saw in a row when moved to the clean up spot wore on his patience. He is back to chasing that outside breaking ball. His power production goes hand in hand with his atience. If he doesn’t swing at the stuff out of the strike zone and makes them throw it over the plate, he’ll hit all day.

  32. tmp444 says:

    Roberto- 5.5? I’ll take the under for 100 the next 4 games and win at least 3 of 4. Tonight is a shoe-in. If the o/u tonight is runs, 2.5 is absolutely a fair number with this lineup.

    Now, prove me wrong, boys!

  33. tmp444 says:

    Roberto…I will stand corrected if you meant total runs, which after re-reading your post is probably what you were getting at. Advanced apologies if that is the case…

  34. Bizrow says:

    Whats the over/under today?

    That could be interesting

  35. RobertoForever says:


    That is what the over/under for a game is. Different than @Playoffs over/under.

    still waiting, @playoffs………… lol. Can’t wait to see today’s o/u

  36. Bizrow says:

    Sign in, two spots added yesterday, two runs by the PBC

    Please note, signing in at the bridge you are in the process of jumping off when you think about tonights lineup will not be registered

    Dejan’s Lunatic Nation – at the Trib,
    Arizona – Tucson, Chandler
    Arkansas – Rogers
    Austrailia – Mackay
    California – Bakersfield, San Francisco, UNION CITY, Los Angeles, Newport Beach, Hollywood, Huntington Beach, Yuba City
    Canada – Toronto
    Colorado – Ft Collins, Estes Park, Denver
    Connecticut – Cos Cob, Bridgeport, Wallingford
    Costa Rica
    Delaware. Newark
    District of Columbia
    Florida – Palm Harbor, Orlando, Valrico, Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Oviedo, Tampa, Jacksonville, Sarasota
    Georgia – Marietta, Atlanta
    Germany – Leverkusen/Cologne
    Hawaii – Honolulu
    Idaho – Mountain Home, Coer d’Aline
    Indiana – Indianapolis, Burns Harbor, South Bend
    Iowa – Bettendorf, Humbolt
    Illinois – La Salle, Peru, Payson, Chicago, Palatine (3 inmates there), Lincoln Park, Grayslake, Lincoln Park
    Japan – Tokyo
    Kentucky – Louisville, Bowling Green
    Louisiana – Slidell
    Maryland – Arnold, Odenton, Severn, Baltimore, Waldorf
    Massachusetts – Boston
    Michigan – Kalamazoo, Eaton Rapids, Lansing
    Mississippi – Biloxi
    Nebraska – Omaha
    New Hampshire – Barrington
    New Jersey – Chesterfield, Princeton, Roxbury, Lebanon
    New York – New York, Smithtown
    North Carolina – Asheville, Hickory, Charlotte, Raleigh, Charleston, Wilmington
    North Dakota
    Ohio – Cincinnati, Columbiana, Westerville, Green, Hilliard, Toledo, Louisville, Columbus, Perrysburg, Pickerington, Youngstown, Cleveland, Olmsted Township, Liberty Township
    Pennsylvania – Downtown, Hopewell, Indiana, North Wales, Franklin Park, Forest Hills, Lansdale, Philadelphia, DuBois, Reading, Crafton, Arnold, Wexford, Mt Lebanon, Canonsburg, Lancaster, Huntington, York, Boiling Springs, Philly suburbs, Morningside, Harrisburg, Lawrenceville, Bradfordwoods, Norristown, Hanover, Clearfield, Sewickley, DuBois, Plum Boro, Slippery Rock, Wilks-Barre, Sharpsville, Bessemer, Greensburg, Washington, Imperial, South Side, Duncansville, Newville, Sheppton, Grove City, Butler, Allentown, Ross Township, Blairsville, Flood City (Johnstown), Overbrook, Dannys Hoagies
    The Philipines
    South Carolina – Duncan, Longs, Columbia
    South Korea – Seoul
    Tennessee – Smithville, Nashville
    Texas – Tyler, San Antonio, Belton
    Vermont – North Bennington
    Virginia – JAL, Hampton, Rescue, Richmond, Front Royal, Woodbridge, Suffolk, Warrenton, Springfield, Virginia Beach
    Washington – Seattle, Nine Mile Falls, Spokane, Sammamish
    West Virginia – Martinsburg, Morgantown
    Wisconsin – Madison, Oshkosh, Hortonville

    171 locations represented in the blog,
    5/16/2012 5:39 PM

  37. RobertoForever says:


    My locations change based on my assignments. But my last 18 months has been in Chapel Hill, NC. I think that one is new.

  38. RobertoForever says:

    The Nationals bullpen looks taxed as well.

    Wondering if they are making a lineup move, because it appears that only 3 relievers are available – Stammen, Mattheus and Clippard.

    Gorzelanny pitched 56 pitches in relief of Strasburg last night. Burnett pitched 2 of the last 3 nights (although only 6 and 16 pitches respectively, so could be pushed I guess), Perry pitched 29 pitches last night, and their ‘closer’ Rodriguez did not pitch last night but had pitched 3 days in a row prior to that, with 28 pitches, 21 pitches and 10 pitches. Rodriguez, unfortunately for the Pirates does not appear to be available.

  39. Milo Hamilton says:

    May 27, 1974. Memorial Day.

    This Pirate lineup drove Bob Prince to say, “If we’re gonna win this game, Kenny Brett’s gonna have to pitch a no hitter.” Almost. The Padres didn’t get a hit until the 9th & Brett polished them off in a brisk 1:38. Check out this lineup & think of that bench – Parker, Stargell, Oliver, Sanguillen etc.

  40. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Late start for the window tonight. The window doesn’t know what to make of this “line-up”. But here goes……

    Tonight’s OVER / UNDER (always just for fun of course)

    Total Hits by Andrew McCutchen
    Line is 1.5
    (This is the total number of walks issued to Pirates batters)

    Anyone can play!! What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!

    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) +160
    JaxBuc +70
    RobertoForever +65
    Nate83 +60
    Bizrow +40
    Steve J Smith +30
    JRay3 +30
    JohninOshkosh +25
    Officer Mancuso +20
    jeffsbar +20
    cosmo +20
    Milo Hamilton EVEN

  41. JRay3 says:

    @ Milo – wow great info, I didn’t think it was possible to dig up a 5-9 that could be as light hitting as what we have put out there much of this season, however you may have just unearthed it!

  42. Bizrow says:

    Thanks Roberto, that logs in as location 172

  43. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Sorry, little sloppy on the last post, please IGNORE what is in the parenthesis.

  44. RobertoForever says:

    Apparently, the Nationals also have a pitcher nursing an injury that may hinder bunting – Gonzalez had an injury to his non-throwing hand (RH) and in his last start did not swing at any pitches. The Nats will allow him to hit, although bunting was questioned.

    Also, Zimmerman (3B) is really struggling, batting .228 and only 1 XBH in the 28 AB’s since coming back from the disabled list. GIDP last night in a key spot that could have started a rally. And that’s a third baseman they gave $100 million for 6 years in the offseason.

  45. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – Interesting line this evening, but looking at the rest of our lineup I just feel this is the one guy Gonzalez will pitch carefully too and quite possibly around. So I will take 25 on the under tonight.

  46. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Jray you got it. Good Luck!!!

  47. JohninOshkosh says:


    25 on the under, if you please.

    No incentive for Gio to challenge him and not pitch around him with this LU.

  48. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    John you got it. Good Luck!!

  49. Bizrow says:

    20 over, Cutch will rise to the occasion

    51 MM men do that

  50. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Tonight’s OVER / UNDER (always just for fun of course)

    Total Hits by Andrew McCutchen
    Line is 1.5

    Anyone can play!! What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!

    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) +160
    JaxBuc +70
    RobertoForever +65
    Nate83 +60
    Bizrow +40
    Steve J Smith +30
    JRay3 +30
    JohninOshkosh +25
    Officer Mancuso +20
    jeffsbar +20
    cosmo +20
    Milo Hamilton EVEN

  51. JHadar says:

    Biz — Not a big deal at all, but when you get a chance there’s a ‘d’ in Humboldt

  52. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Bizrow, you got it, good luck!!

  53. Bizrow says:

    JHadar, thanks its fixed

    Either a typo or my eyes

    Its a big deal to me, thanks

  54. Bizrow says:

    @Playoffs by 2012

    Cutch probably won’t see the over on strikes

  55. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    Tough one….Playoffs

    give me 40 on the under. He’ll be pitched around tonight.

  56. JAL says:

    Fox, Evans, and Clement are longshots because they are not on the 40 so someone would have to DFAed

  57. Milo Hamilton says:

    Kevin Correia to the DL ? Remember where you heard it.

  58. LuckyNKentucky says:


    What did he do to get on the DL besides 5-run inning? Don’t tell me–oblique strain.

  59. LuckyNKentucky says:

    And why doesn’t JAL know about it? He usually knows before Hurdle.

  60. RobertoForever says:


    Wanted to ask how you enjoyed the TWO wins the Pirates won for you. You attended Sat and Sun’s games, like I did, right?

    Very interesting o/u – always appreciate the effort you put in – both calculating a good o/u and adding up the fake units won/lost.

    I think Clutch hits alot in this Nats ballpark, and with the bullpen taxed as well. I think I will take 15 on the over.


  61. Milo Hamilton says:


    It hasn’t been announced as of yet. I’ve put 2 & 2 together from some things I’ve heard. We’ll see if it comes out to 4 or not. The 2nd part of the equation is that we’re going to need a first baseman or an outfielder.

  62. bob hasis says:

    @LuckyNKentucky #12

    Your memory is not to be questioned. And someone in this vast blog tell me if Presley is/was our biggest problem.
    He is just Huntingdon’s and Hurdle’s scapecoat. You’ll hear theory, pseudo-logic, cause and effect malarkey until you get nauseous.
    The same approach afforded to Pedro should have applied here – play him until it works out.
    I think Navarro has photos of someone in a compromising pose.

  63. JohninOshkosh says:

    DFA Mclouth and accept that you wasted money on his salary. Problem solved on the 40 man roster issue.

    Anybody else sick of Ryan Braun. He stands on the plate, yet every time he is plunked, or nearly plunked, he acts like it is the greatest injustice known to man. Add the Mets to the growing number of teams the Brewers have a problem with.

  64. pattonbb says:

    What do you think? 14 K’s tonight? 15?

    Gonzalez can be nasty.

  65. bob hasis says:

    It’s a sad testimony when you “give a rest” to your “cleanup hitter”. I don’t care much about Ryan Braun at all, but I do care that Barmes continues to take a spot in this line-up.
    There were several other candidates to be jettisoned before Presley, and we don’t need to bring up a “bat” because of inter-league play; McGehee, and Jones will suffice as DH

  66. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Gotcha Milo. Hope you’re right.


    I’d like to see Presley play his way out of it, too. To me, that’s what’s wrong with all these platoons. Except for guys like Jones who can’t hit a lefty, go with a lineup and let them get in a groove. Walker hit his way out. Pedro to some extent, too. Barmes is given free course to do it.

  67. Milo Hamilton says:

    Would someone tell them to stop running up the score.

  68. Bizrow says:

    Is it legal for a SS to have 5 dingers?

    In May, one guy

  69. Parrothead01 says:

    Is this possibly the worst line up ever to grace a major league ball field? Feel bad for Bedard.

  70. twentytwo22 says:

    In honor of tonight’s lineup I’ve gone back through 2001 and listed the OPS of the one year players we have come to loathe aside from a few exceptions.

    PA – Plate Appearances

    2003 357 .950 UT Matt Stairs $900,000
    2003 498 .913 RF Reggie Sanders $1,000,000
    2005 445 .813 RF Matt Lawton $7,750,000
    2006 244 .785 1B Sean Casey $8,500,000
    2004 110 .779 RF Mondesi’s House $1,150,000
    2003 374 .770 CF Kenny Lofton $1,025,000
    2008 334 .753 UT Doug Mientkiewicz $750,000
    2001 170 .743 CF Gary Matthews Jr $225,000
    2009 126 .741 UT Eric Hinske $1,500,000
    2006 343 .711 RF Jeromy Burnitz $6,000,000
    2006 227 .704 3B Joe Randa $4,000,000
    2008 254 .682 OF Jason Michaels $2,200,000
    2005 23 .652 C Benito Santiago $2,150,000
    2008 200 .655 IF Chris Gomez $1,000,000
    2003 299 .650 2B Jeff Reboulet
    2011 391 .649 1B Lyle Overpaid $5,000,000
    2007 130 .643 SS Cesar Izturis $4,150,000
    2011 251 .642 OF Xavier Paul $419,500
    2005 119 .642 C David Ross $338,500
    2011 231 .627 OF Matt Diaz $2,125,000
    2011 257 .625 3B Brandon Wood $420,000
    2009 239 .614 IF Ramon Vazquez $1,875,000
    2010 154 .605 1B Jeff Clement $405,000
    2010 175 .595 SS Bobby Crosby $1,000,000
    2008 223 .578 IF Luis Rivas $525,000
    2001 183 .576 RF Operation Shutdown $5,000,000
    2004 174 .562 3B Chris Stynes $750,000
    2010 193 .558 2B Knee Brace $4,850,000
    2010 183 .552 RF Ryan Church $1,500,000

    2012 89 .609 CI Casey McGehee $2,537,500
    2012 82 .556 C Rod Barajas $4,000,000
    2012 40 .507 UT Yamaico Navarro $483,000
    2012 113 .482 SS Clint Barmes $5,000,000
    2012 51 .472 OF Nate McLouth $1,750,000

    DK: You’re the greatest, 22.

  71. twentytwo22 says:

    I hope that at some point in the future there is some kind of a payoff for all of this. My sense of humor can only negate so much pain.

  72. Nate83 says:

    The bottom six in the lineup are 2 for 7 so that’s not to bad. Oh wait that is 2 out 7 at bats hitting the ball in play.

  73. Officer Mancuso says:

    Interesting Joe Posnanski screed that I think could obliquely apply to Pedro Alvarez:

  74. Nate83 says:

    Anyone notice the batting averages of the nationals 5-8 hitters. Wow that is a bad hitting line upas well.

  75. Officer Mancuso says:

    Bedard is an extremely rare fairly low velocity, high K rate pitcher. That man understands the art of pitching.

  76. bob hasis says:

    Tim just trivialized the fact that Navarro was ‘first ball swinging” as a lead off man. It is stupid not to make the pitcher throw a little at this point

  77. bob hasis says:

    Barmes is now 0-3 with two inept k’s. Imagine that!

  78. RobertoForever says:


    A rally-killer from the #8 hitter.

    With their bullpen, the Battlin Bucs are back in this.

  79. Milo Hamilton says:

    MVP. MVP.

  80. twentytwo22 says:

    Shame on Clint Hurdle for using Meek in a 1 run game.

  81. jonathan says:

    Boy, the Pirates could really use a guy like Adam Laroche

  82. RobertoForever says:

    I knew that success by an ex-Pirate would bring Milo out of his self-assigned furlough from negativity.

    Welcome back. That must have been killing you.

  83. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Is Watson hurt? Why would you let Meek face 2 lefties in that situation? This game has been officially Hurdled!

  84. Bizrow says:

    I still need a hit from Cutch to win the over/under

    Sigh mid May and that is what I’m left with

  85. Playoffs by 2012 says:


  86. RobertoForever says:


    Agree. Especially for the LH- LaRoche with bases loaded.


  87. RobertoForever says:


    In fairness, Watson has pitched 3 of the last 4 days, including more than 16 pitches yesterday. But someone.

  88. Milo Hamilton says:

    By the way, that lineup that everyone crucified scored 4 runs tonight with still an inning to go.

  89. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Here’s the way I look at it. Watson was brought in last night for mop-up. Why use your only lefty in the pen for mop-up? Especially when you are going to face a lefty heavy line-up from the Nats.


  90. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    By the way, McCutchen comes up with 2 hits tonight, and the OVER wins. Thanks to everyone for playing!! See you tomorrow night.

    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) +120
    RobertoForever +80
    JaxBuc +70
    Nate83 +60
    Bizrow +60
    Steve J Smith +30
    Officer Mancuso +20
    jeffsbar +20
    cosmo +20
    JRay3 +5
    JohninOshkosh EVEN
    Milo Hamilton EVEN

  91. RobertoForever says:

    Jared Hughes is definitely better balanced against lefties and righties.

    Should have brought in Hughes to face LaRoche. Second-guessing, but Meek was in trouble.

  92. likeabugonarug says:

    So has Adam been given some different medication this season? He’s been passed along from a number of teams since he left us. What happened that he is finally the player we thought he’d be when we traded for him?

  93. twentytwo22 says:

    Clint Barmes doesn’t take a walk against a guy who can’t throw strikes and is blowing saves.

  94. T.S. says:

    • If Alvarez’s extreme hot and cold hitting is the norm for him this year, the middle of the order is in a whole lotta trouble. As if it wasn’t already.

    • Meek shall not inherit a spot in the pen until he is completely healthy. Completely. Healthy.

    • McLouth got paid a lot of peanuts, yet is nothing more than the elephant in the room.

    • Hitting coach. Strike three. Yer out. Wait, no you’re not. Accountability doesn’t affect you.

    • Correia belongs on the 162-game DL.

    • Barmes total lack of hitting makes me pine for a guy named Sum Juan Else.

  95. Don says:

    5 singles and a home run…we have a trend

  96. RobertoForever says:

    Tonight it was the pitching and bullpen (with an assist to the Coach) who failed the team tonight.

    While the batting order did not appear great, scoring four runs for this team usually guarantees a W.

    But giving up XBH on every hit, and then not changing RP to try to preserve a 1 run game with 2 outs, is not acceptable. Disappointment from unusual spots today.

  97. Milo Hamilton says:


    I hope your twitter rant tonight soon finds its way into a column. You’ve certainly captured the inanity of the situation.

    DK: It’s really not all that different than the column from two weeks ago, Milo, is it?

    It’ll be on the blog tonight, for what it’s worth. A Pirates column is coming soon, but not Friday.

  98. LuckyNKentucky says:

    No help at Indy. They’ve been shut out 2 games in a row now. Tonight, 8 singles.

    DK: Hadn’t realized that. Oh, well. I’m sure they tried.

  99. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    “I tried.”

    Man, I wish I could get away with that at work, or at home. Show up late for work…”I tried.” Don’t take the trash out to the curb……”I tried.” I bet The Best Management Team In Baseball wouldn’t accept “I tried” if MLB forgot to send them the revenue sharing $$$.

  100. JohninOshkosh says:

    Note from PBC Marketing Dept.:

    Swap ”Pride. Passion. Pittsburgh Pirates.”


    ”We. Tried. Pittsburgh Pirates.”

  101. bob hasis says:

    I wanted to acknowedge to twenty-two 22 that that was some excellent research. Kudos, plaudits.and a round of drinks for that list of over-the-hill, overpaid and over-rated glue that we purchased. As you said not all were totally worthless, but a lot of money was wasted.

    The old adage “don’t send good money after bad” seems to fit that list somehow. And one would have thought we learn from experience, but yet when I look at that list, this GM and management team learned nothing. I am giving a pass on Mcgehee, and I hold out hope for McLouth. The group they brought in ranks right down there with the worst of them.

    When d’Arnaud struck out, he seemed to have an idea, when Barmes strikes out it is sad to look at, like swinging at a pinata facing the wrong direction.

  102. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    “like swinging at a pinata facing the wrong direction.”

    ZING!! Love it!!

  103. JohninOshkosh says:

    I liked that one, too, Bob. Funny image. :-)

  104. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    For those of you (like me) who are stuck with the Nationals broadcast for these games, I pose the question. Is there a more insufferable duo in the league than Bob Carpenter and F.P. Santangelo?

  105. JohninOshkosh says:


    I get the MLB package so I hear all the clubs’ announcers, and they are two I would call if they were a band, ”unlistenable.” The Cardinals TV duo is similarly bad. It was so bad tonight, I killed the volume and was doing my own play by play. Drives my cat nuts!

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