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Final: Orioles 8, Pirates 6


Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (32-27) vs. Baltimore Orioles (34-26)

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: Oriole Park at Camden Yards

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup vs. Baltimore LHP Wei-Yin Chen

  1. Alex Presley, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Casey McGehee, 1B
  5. Matt Hague, DH
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Jose Tabata, RF
  8. Rod Barajas, C
  9. Clint Barmes, SS

RHP Brad Lincoln will start for the Pirates.


  1. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    After a day off, it’s good to be back. Open the window!!

    Tonights’s OVER / UNDER (always just for fun of course)

    Total Hits + Walks for Andrew McCutchen
    Line is 2.5

    Anyone can play!! Everyone should TRY!! What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!


    JRay3 ** 340
    Slack Boss ** 315
    DemonDachshund ** 260
    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) ** 250
    JMB ** 250
    cosmo ** 240
    Nate83 ** 230
    pattonbb ** 200
    Officer Mancuso ** 180
    Bizrow ** 170
    JaxBuc ** 165
    Mlrgenuine ** 165
    radio wave ** 120
    Chico ** 100
    OZ ** 95
    bman ** 90
    Evan ** 88
    likeabugonarug ** 70
    RobertoForever ** 60
    Milo Hamilton ** 50
    Steve J Smith ** 50
    Sir Lochsby ** 50
    jeffsbar ** 50
    JD ** 40
    MarkV ** 25
    NMR ** 20
    JohninOshkosh ** EVEN
    cmat0829 ** EVEN
    bob hasis ** EVEN
    Hal Smith ** -20
    lawnbeaver ** -25
    Stuart ** -25
    stuart66 ** -30
    manny_sanguine ** -60
    Mike C. ** -70
    tmp444 ** -100
    TDB1977 ** -140
    Arriba Wilver ** -165
    GlassHalfFull ** -237.5

    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) 2012 Topps Roberto Clemente Card

  2. bob hasis says:

    I’m the consummate Wheaties fan; give me the OVER for 25 on Cutch.

    I notice Harrison didn’t qualify to start again, being snubbed in favor of Pedro. It will be hilarious watching PA “try” and make contact with this Chen.

  3. Jandy says:

    @ The Window ~ I think there should also be a “prize” for the poster with the LEAST points. Kinda like a consolation prize, you know?

  4. Milo Hamilton says:


    I have a prize to donate, if Mr. Playoffs would like.

  5. Jandy says:

    Oh boy, this oughta be good ;)

  6. tdb1977 says:


    I want to make this a 100 bet on the Under please. I would like to try to get out of this hole fast! Thanks

  7. Jandy says:

    What does the Window say, a prize from Milo?

  8. OZ says:

    20 on the under please. Hope I lose my bet!

  9. SlackBoss says:

    @ playoffs

    nice to see the window open so early in the day. I will go for 45 on the over. I don’t like the pitching matchup for the Pirates as once again Lincoln gets a HR hitters park. But I like the Bucco’s chances to hit a few of their own.

  10. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    The window would like to announce a new prize that has been added to the prize pool.

    While shopping at a local mall over the weekend, the window stopped into the local hat store. In the bargain bin was a brand new Pittsburgh Pirates fitted hat. The window grabbed it, and it will now be the First Place prize.

    Here is a link to what the hat looks like:

    Please note that the picture is NOT the actual hat. This is only to show what the design is. The hat the winner gets is Brand New and Unworn.

  11. TJA says:

    This is really a big 3 game set for the Pirates. Bucs are on a roll, but so are the Birds. Bucs need to win at least one…

  12. nate83 says:

    I’ll put 100 on the under. Thanks.

  13. Jandy says:

    @ The Window….nice!

  14. nate83 says:

    Pedro drops to 6 and Tabata to 7. They may both freefall all the way out of the line up. I for one hope their parachute’s open soon.

  15. pattonbb says:

    @Playoffs – How can I bet against Cutch when all he does is destroy lefties? But, Chen did handcuff a pretty strong Boston lineup last week. Decisions, decisions…..

    50 on the OVER! Chen makes a couple mistakes to Cutch and they walk him late.

  16. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @bob, you got it and good luck!!

    @Jandy, the window agrees with you, the window has a pamphlet on compulsive gambling from Caesar’s Palace in Las Vegas, perhaps that would be the most appropriate prize.

    @Milo, the window is intrigued, whatcha got?

    @tdb, MAX IT OUT!! The window loves it, you got it and good luck!!

    @Slack Boss, the window doesn’t keep very detailed records, but the window doesn’t believe that you have lost yet, is that correct? For the game tonight, you got it and good luck!!

    @OZ, you got it and good luck!!

    @nate, MAX IT OUT!! The window loves it, you got it and good luck!!


    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) 2012 Topps Roberto Clemente Card

  17. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – Good to have baseball back after the off day. An opportunity tonight for the Pirates to win their fifth straight for the first time this year and to do so Mr. McCutchen will most likely need a big night.

    Another good Over/Under and when diving into the numbers you will see that McCutchen has accomplished 3 or more hits+walks in 10 of the 56 games he has played in this year including the most recent on Sunday. However he has only been able to get 3 or more hits+walks back to back once this season back on April 17 and 18 versus Arizona when he went for four hits on the 17th and had two hits and one BB on the 18th. Couple that with the surprising number that in the 10 times he has achieved that feat six were with a LHP starting and four were with a RHP that started, a number that actually surprised me with how well he has hit lefties.

    Time to play the numbers here and go 75 on the UNDER.


  18. Bizrow says:

    I can get a Derek Bell Topps Card for the last place finisher, if you wish.

    Playoff, you sucked me in again, 50 OVAH on the Cutch.


  19. Milo Hamilton says:


    An autographed Lyle Overbay baseball. Complete with certificate of authenticity. A perfect booby prize.

  20. JohninOshkosh says:


    I’ll take 50 on the under, if you please.

    Where can I get a copy of that pamphlet?

  21. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – wow the ante has been upped, time to get serious as that hat looks sweet, and I have just about every black game day hat the Pirates have worn but not a yellow topped one…nice!

  22. tdb1977 says:

    Its the only way I’ll get back in. Expect to see lots of maxing on my part. And watch me sink faster then the 2011 Pirates sunk after the all-star break :) Just don’t throw me a life line!

  23. bman says:


    I’ll take 40 on the UNDER

  24. nate83 says:


    I am assuming that wasn’t a Lyle Overbay home run ball. Now that would be rare and worth something.

  25. Milo Hamilton says:


    No. I actually won it through the team. It came to my house 4 days after he was released. True story.

  26. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @pattonbb, you got it and good luck!!

    @JRay, the window loves the stats you pull up for everyone, very detailed and the window is impressed, you got it and good luck!!

    @bizrow, the window likes your offer, but the window still likes the compulsive gambler pamphlet better, as for tonight’s game, you got it and good luck!!

    @Milo, that’s way too nice to be a booby prize, the window still likes the compulsive gambling pamphlet.

    @John, I believe they “hide” them next to every ATM in Vegas casinos, you got it and good luck!!

    @JRay, it is a real nice hat, looks like it spent some serious time in the bargain bin, the window loves a good rescue hat.

    @tdb, win or lose the window encourages all players to play responsibly……or MAX IT OUT!!

    @bman, you got it and good luck!!

  27. tmp444 says:

    @ Playoffs:

    Time to get out of my hole. On nothing more than a bad feeling about this game tonight, I’ll take 50 on the UNDER.

    I’m sure I’ll be wrong as usual ;)

  28. Milo Hamilton says:


    I’ll hang on to it then. Please don’t hesitate to ask it you need it. I’ll be back at you later with my choice for tonight.

  29. GlassHalfFull says:

    Thank you all for suggesting prizes for when I come in last.

    @Milo-Lyle Overbay?? A great reason to get myself out of this hole.

    Back to slow and steady for me.


    22.5 on the over please.

    Everyone is now free to bet on the under.

  30. JaxBuc says:

    I’ll take 35 on the UNDER, please.

  31. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @tmp444, you sound an awful lot like the window when the window visits the OTB, you got it and good luck!!

    @Milo, the window is nothing if not magnanimous, if the players wish to have the Overbay ball as the prize for last place, who is the window to argue, as the Pharaoh once said, “So it shall be written, so it shall be done.”

    @Glass, no accounting mistakes this weekend, your mentoring has paid off, you got it and good luck!!

    @JaxBuc, you got it and good luck!!

  32. Milo Hamilton says:

    This may be the most positive thing I’ve seen from a national perspective. Tom Verducci did color on Saturday night’s Fox broadcast.

  33. dcpinpgh says:

    @ Milo,

    I really do have an autographed Lyle Overbay baseball.

  34. @Playoffs, 100 on the UNDER tonight, but I really hope I’m wrong and Cutch continues the torrid pace against lefties.

  35. Milo Hamilton says:


    I’m guessing you got yours in a more conventional way than I got mine.

  36. NMR says:


    Cutch vs. lefty? 20 on the over all day, baby! Thanks!

  37. GlassHalfFull says:

    What’s worse than one autographed Lyle Overbay???

    TWO of them!

  38. NMR says:

    They must’ve finally run out of ’09 Nate McLouth bobbleheads.

  39. Steve, Yorktown, VA says:

    @playoffs put me down for 100 on the over

  40. Bizrow says:

    IMO, we will think of something for a last place standing

    Ok, lunatics, sitting at 200 even

    Just log in where you currently reside

    Probably nuttin for a while from Manitoba, still licking their wounds with the Cup going to LA

    Dejan’s Lunatic Nation – at the Trib,
    Arizona – Tucson, Chandler, Phoenix
    Arkansas – Rogers
    Austrailia – Mackay
    California – Bakersfield, San Francisco, UNION CITY, Los Angeles, Newport Beach, Hollywood, Huntington Beach, Yuba City
    Canada – Toronto
    China – Singapore
    Colorado – Ft Collins, Estes Park, Denver
    Connecticut – Cos Cob, Bridgeport, Wallingford
    Costa Rica
    Czech Republic
    Delaware – Newark
    District of Columbia
    Florida – Palm Harbor, Orlando, Valrico, Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Oviedo, Tampa, Jacksonville, Sarasota, Palm Beach Gardens, Cape Coral, Coco Beach (Major Nelson and Mary Ann)
    Georgia – Marietta, Atlanta, Sandy Springs
    Germany – Leverkusen/Cologne
    Hawaii – Honolulu
    Idaho – Mountain Home, Coer d’Aline
    Indiana – Indianapolis, Burns Harbor, South Bend
    Iowa – Bettendorf, Humboldt
    Illinois – La Salle, Peru, Payson, Chicago, Palatine (3 inmates there), Lincoln Park, Grayslake, Lincoln Park, Algonquin
    Japan – Tokyo
    Kentucky – Louisville, Bowling Green, Lexington
    Louisiana – Slidell
    Maine – Bangor
    Maryland – Arnold, Odenton, Severn, Baltimore, Waldorf
    Massachusetts – Boston
    Michigan – Kalamazoo, Eaton Rapids, Lansing
    Mississippi – Biloxi
    Mountain Home AFB*
    Nebraska – Omaha
    New Hampshire – Barrington
    New Jersey – Chesterfield, Princeton, Roxbury, Lebanon, Lincoln Park, Berkeley Heights, Somerville
    New York – New York, Smithtown, Manhattan
    North Carolina – Asheville, Hickory, Charlotte, Raleigh, Charleston, Wilmington, Chapel Hill
    North Dakota
    Ohio – Cincinnati, Columbiana, Westerville, Green, Hilliard, Toledo, Louisville, Columbus, Perrysburg, Pickerington, Youngstown, Cleveland, Olmsted Township, Liberty Township, Warren
    Pennsylvania – Downtown, Hopewell, Indiana, North Wales, Franklin Park, Forest Hills, Lansdale, Philadelphia, Du Bois, Reading, Crafton, Arnold, Wexford, Mt Lebanon, Canonsburg, Lancaster, Huntington, York, Boiling Springs, Philly suburbs, Morningside, Harrisburg, Lawrenceville, Bradfordwoods, Norristown, Hanover, Clearfield, Sewickley, DuBois, Plum Boro, Slippery Rock, Wilks-Barre, Sharpsville, Bessemer, Greensburg, Washington, Imperial, South Side, Duncansville, Newville, Sheppton, Grove City, Butler, Allentown, Ross Township, Blairsville, Flood City (Johnstown), Overbrook, Danny’s Hoagies, Baldwin, Economy, Sharpsville, Erie, North Huntington, Bellfonte, West Mifflin, Kennywood, Pleasant Hills, Beechview (Mad Turk, No 200)
    The Phillipines
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina – Duncan, Longs, Columbia
    South Korea – Seoul, Mike
    Tennessee – Smithville, Nashville
    Texas – Tyler, San Antonio, Belton
    Vermont – North Bennington
    Virginia – JAL, Hampton, Rescue, Richmond, Front Royal, Woodbridge, Suffolk, Warrenton, Springfield, Virginia Beach, Fairfax, Arlington
    Washington – Seattle, Nine Mile Falls, Spokane, Sammamish
    West Virginia – Martinsburg, Morgantown
    Wisconsin – Madison, Oshkosh, Hortonville

    200 locations represented in the blog,
    10 countries
    37 states, plus the District of Columbia
    Two planets, at least confirmed
    6/12/2012 5:29 PM

  41. JohninOshkosh says:

    Manitoba must really not care at all about the Pirates!

  42. JohninOshkosh says:


    You have an articulate, if breezy, humorous way about your writing. Ever written professionally?

  43. Bizrow says:


    Dejan has us talking about Winnipeg and Manitoba

    Now, that is real writing ;-)

  44. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @Steve, MAX IT OUT!! The window loves it, you got it and good luck!!

    @NMR, you got it and good luck!!

    @John, the window’s first hack at college was as a Journalism major, by the time the dust settled and window graduated it was as a Government Administration major. Life is odd sometimes….Thanks for the compliment, the window sincerely appreciates it!!

  45. Milo Hamilton says:

    As our salute to Lyle Overbay continues, did you know he’s hitting .339 with 2 homers in 62 AB’s this year ?

    Of course he is.

  46. Milo Hamilton says:

    Luis Heredia will start the season with State College. Ryota Igarashi was “shocked” at the news.

  47. Chico says:


    20 on the over


  48. LuckyNKentucky says:


    One of your other favs, Adam LaRoche is down to .261, but he leads the team in OBP at .347 and has 11, 42. You should add him to your salute to former Bucs propering after signing balls in the ‘Burgh. On E-Bay, the Overbay ball could bring a couple dollars.

  49. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Ryota Igarshi was shocked at the mispelling of prospering above.

  50. NMR says:

    How old is Heredia in Tabata years?

    Is he age appropriate for the Does?

  51. Milo Hamilton says:


    I’ll take 25 on the over for Cutch against Not Bruce Chen.

  52. Arriba Wilver says:

    Playoffs. I’ll take 65 on the over. And I’d like to send my sincere thanks to GlassHalfFull for keeping me out of the basement on the standings. Who’d a thunk I could lose so much . . .nothing. :-)

  53. Bizrow says:

    And AW, you might get a prize?


    We need 2 of 3

  54. SlackBoss says:

    @playoffs – interesting question about my possible streak – but like any streak, the less said the better.

  55. Dcpinpfg says:

    Pirates Charities auction bag. I also have a Ross the boss and a couple others.

  56. Milo Hamilton says:

    Robbie Grossman leading off in CF for Altoona tonight. First game since June 2nd due to an “internal issue”. Indigestion, I suspect.

  57. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @chico, you got it and good luck!!

    @Milo, you got it and good luck!!

    @Arriba, you got it and good luck!!

    @Slack Boss, the window reads you loud and clear, take the money and walk away quietly, gotcha!!

  58. JD says:

    Good evening Mr Playoffs, 40 on the over please. Let’s Go Bucs!

  59. RobertoForever says:


    hope I am not too late. Out galavanting. Sorry, I’ll do better next time. No time for research, but let’s go with Cutch’s hot bat for 40.


  60. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @JD, you got it and good luck!!

    @Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc), the window is officially putting out an APB on you!!

    @Roberto, you got it and good luck!!

  61. Mlrgenuine says:

    Playoff… if not too late. 25 on the over please!

  62. Jay G -Jacksonville FL via New Castle says:

    The Oriolea’ fans have to be looking at our lineup (with most of them around the .200 mark) and wondering how the hell we’re in first place, even with good pitching…..Let’s get the damn lumber going, boys…..

  63. pattonbb says:

    Wow…Cutch…just wow…

  64. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @Mlr, you got it and good luck!!

  65. pattonbb says:

    The Hit Collector with an rbi!!!!!

    Did Adam Jones think he had a play on Cutch at the plate? Really?

  66. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Is Pedro ready to be a star???

  67. pattonbb says:

    Playoffs – the answer to that is “not yet”.

  68. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Pedro is NOT ready to be a star. Makes you wonder what he has more of — Strikeouts or Runners Left On Base?

  69. JRay3 says:

    Well who needs Jeff Clement when you have the hit collector coming up with a RBI in his first AB as the DH. Creating offense all with two outs, good start.

    Watch much more of that from Alvarez and how many will clamor to package him in a deal to get Chase Headly?

  70. Milo Hamilton says:

    Big start for Brad Lincoln. Is he the guy we’ve seen so far this year? Or is he the “5 run Lincoln” of seasons past ?

  71. JAL says:

    Nice DP after 2 hard hit balls

  72. JohninOshkosh says:

    Shall I dream the impossible dream? How about a WS between Baltimore and Pittsburgh. What an autumn showcase that would be. The two best stadiums in the bigs.

  73. Milo Hamilton says:

    Is Julie Chen pitching tomorrow ?

  74. RobertoForever says:


    I didn’t catch that about Sean Burroughs. Thanks for pointing it out. It is sad to see sometimes, these top prospecst, back down in Triple-A, still hanging on to what little part of their dream is left.

    But sometimes those veterans can really provide some uplift for kids (and adults), especially if they are comfortable with where they are in their career. One of my most memorable times at a minor league game came from a former World Series participant in the early 2000’s. You could tell he was not happy to be in the minors, but he was filing a role being the veteran backstop for a bunch of young up-and-comers in the starting rotation. This catcher never brought the ball back to the dugout on a 3rd out strikeout, probably because he didn’t want to deal with the pile of kids yelling for the ball.

    Anyway, this veteran backstop, stuck in Triple-A on the downside of his career, was having a rough go with this ump behind the plate and his missed calls. I could tell he was reaching the boiling point. So about the 5th inning, the ump clearly missed a 3rd strike call on a low pitch, and the veteran held the mitt there for like a 3 count. I yelled, “Hey catcher, that ump must not be an art-lover, because you’re framing up a masterpiece” Of course the line got alot of laughs from the home crowd, and I added a few comments about the catcher being a veteran, and that ump may want to pay attention if he ever wanted to ump in the big leagues.

    Well, as luck would have it, the ump did call out the final batter of the inning on a 3rd strike, and we all jumped up in the stands and high-fived each other. I heard a whistling from the field and whirled to look, and the veteran catcher caught my eye and tossed me the ball. I was so shocked, I can’t believe it didn’t bounce off my nose. It was a real cool moment.

    I always appreciate those guys who have lived the high life and now are grinding out back in the minors.

  75. JRay3 says:

    A lot of balls hit on the screws early could be an ominous sign.

  76. Bizrow says:

    I hear Lets Go Bucs chants on the broadcast

    Bucco Nation?

  77. JRay3 says:

    Huge one out K by Lincoln, now time to leave the runner stranded at third.

  78. JAL says:

    Hang a curve to Reynolds and that’s what you get

  79. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    That pitch to Reynolds is why I never trust Brad Lincoln.

  80. Milo Hamilton says:

    One thing is for sure. They are not going to be able to perform offensively like they did vs. Kansas City in this series and get away with it.

  81. JohninOshkosh says:

    Endy Chavez is to the Mets what Sid Bream is to the Pirates. Few good things have gone right for the Mets since he made that fabulous catch in the 2006 NLCS.

  82. Milo Hamilton says:

    That fastball isn’t missing many bats.

  83. pattonbb says:

    Jim Joyce blows another one.

  84. JRay3 says:

    Even on a good pitch balls falling for the O’s this has the potential to get out of hand early, need to get out of this.

  85. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jim Joyce, the king of blown calls, blows another. Wonder if he’ll cry after he sees the replay ?

  86. JRay3 says:

    Can’t help but thinking what if?…every time I see Wieters.

  87. pattonbb says:

    Can I beat a dead horse and comment on how terrible the umpiring has gotten? Are these guys just getting lazy? Are we still dead set against replay?

  88. Karen22 says:

    OMG! Davis out by a FOOT! And it’s VERY obvious Lincoln MUST get ahead of hitters—his fastball is straight and eminently whackable. Not liking this at all.

  89. Milo Hamilton says:

    I get that you can throw harder when you only have to pitch 1 inning. But 5 mph difference ?

  90. JRay3 says:

    Don’t quite know what Pedro is looking for to swing at…two awful AB’s.

  91. Jay G -Jacksonville FL via New Castle says:

    If Alvarez can’t swing the bat, send him to the bench or the bushes…..pathetic….

  92. JohninOshkosh says:

    Pedro: I hear the weather is nice in San Diego.

  93. Karen22 says:

    GO AWAY, PETEY! Horrid AB’s! And GO AWAY, fastball down the middle. This game is going to get completely out of hand if Lincoln keeps pitching like this.

  94. JohninOshkosh says:

    Is it just me or has Roberts appeared to lose some muscle and thinned out since the concussion?

  95. Milo Hamilton says:


    No, that’s just since the Mitchell Report.

  96. TDB1977 says:

    Can Lincoln please be used for trade bait? I dont care if we get a bag of balls and a used jock strap. It will be better then what we have seen from him.

  97. Reading says:

    Time to put the hanger on the shelf.

  98. JohninOshkosh says:

    After Brian Roberts smoked that single, I saw Pedro looking at the Pirate dugout to see if CH was coming out. Even Lincoln’s third baseman thought the hook was coming. He got the pop out though.

  99. JRay3 says:

    Struggling to even hit the ball out of the infield…two of our hits of the infield variety and a lot of weak ground ball outs.

  100. JRay3 says:

    Well one of our two legitimate hitters, Walker, with double off the wall.

  101. twentytwo22 says:

    Well maybe we will have a chance to score again in 3 innings.

  102. bob hasis says:

    Somewhere around 3:25 this afternoon, @bobhasis #2, I made an easy prediction that 98% of you would also easily have made, regarding PA.
    And the uncertainty in that entry is still on the table – WHY NOT HARRISON at third???

  103. pattonbb says:

    wow…that ball went far.

  104. JRay3 says:

    This game will be a prime example of what happens on nights our starting pitching is not in top form.

  105. I think this one shows that Lincoln may need to stay in the bullpen. He pitched much better there. Time to see what Rudy has to offer us from AAA.

  106. Milo Hamilton says:

    3 of the last 6 games the starter hasn’t pitched 5th innings.

  107. The offense is certainly not helping anything tonight, either. And Cincy is taking advantage.

  108. Karen22 says:

    Very disappointing performance by Lincoln…so much for all that depth at starting pitching. Bring up Rudy…

  109. RobertoForever says:

    I think this only the 3rd or 4th time that Cruz has been in the game for the Pirates when they are losing.

  110. Officer Mancuso says:

    Angelos is whupping Nutting, so far.

  111. JAL says:

    Lincoln just not consistent, throws an unhittable pitch then one right over the middle.

  112. JRay3 says:

    Cruz has been struggling with command of late and issuing a lot of walks of late…I said the other day we would be looking at another late inning guy if that continued, tonight might be evidence Cruz and Hughes switching roles.

  113. Wa-Wa-Wazat a homerun by Magehee? Nice hit Casey!

  114. JRay3 says:

    Bomb for McGehee his second of year, boy it would sure be nice for him to get some power going.

  115. pattonbb says:

    Don’t start waving any white flags yet. Still a lot of ball to be played in a hitter’s park.

  116. RobertoForever says:

    Bucs not out of this yet. HR by McGehee. Now this inning or next, Cutch will go yard. He can’t have Jones outperforming him for the highlight reel, lol

  117. Jay G -Jacksonville FL via New Castle says:

    Tabata gets the most “Freddie Sanchez” type hits since Freddie Sanchez……

  118. Milo Hamilton says:


    I think you have something for us here.

  119. JRay3 says:

    Good grief not only can Barmes not hit but his arm is one of the weakest I have seen manning the SS position, please NH get us a right side of the infield.

  120. Hardy making the plays tonight, and Barmes reverting to the norm for this year with another error.

  121. JRay3 says:

    Error, error and all of a sudden a gift wrapped inning….and a gift scoring decision bunt single are you kidding.

  122. Milo Hamilton says:


    Thanks for taking care of the “Barmes weak arm” portion of the program.

  123. pattonbb says:

    OK, I stand corrected…now it’s over.

    It happens. We’ll get them tomorrow.

  124. Now that’s ball game right there. Hitters ballpark or not, our offense is horrible tonight. With the Orioles having the best pen in the majors, not going to be easy.

  125. RobertoForever says:

    Ok, that was kind of a finishing blow.

  126. JRay3 says:

    And to add insult to injury than watch the opposing SS with a great piece of hitting for RBI past drawn in infield…and than another ball just crushed. Thanks Barmes at least I know you enjoy payday.

    Maybe Mercer will get a game in tomorrow.

  127. bob hasis says:


    I didn’t get your point; were you referring to the weak-armed Barmes?

  128. Dan1283 says:

    Random question. Jones just lined out to second with a rocket. If that happened to a Pirate in Bradenton, would the player really have to run that out all the way to first base or risk suspension?

  129. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Lincoln certainly has upped his value as a back end of the pen guy. I’m convinced. I know Bob might not be, but he sure seems like a different pitcher now and when he only has an inning or two to throw.

  130. Milo Hamilton says:

    @bob hasis

    Yes I was. You were on that very early.

  131. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    It’s amazing how similar these two ball clubs are this year. Both have been able to get the most out of their pitching. The biggest difference I can see is that the Orioles have the power bats that can put up 4-6 runs per game, whereas the Pirates do not.

  132. bob hasis says:


    Oh no, I’m convinced! He isn’t the guy I envisioned for the rotation. You are correct.

    But I have a question for Hurdle; how can a guy with an atrociously weak arm, and an equally pathetic ability to hit, claim a starting position on a major league roster as a shortstop. Mr. Hurdle. I await your answer.

  133. Milo Hamilton says:

    A-Rod’s 23rd career grand slam ties Lou Gehrig’s all time record.

  134. bob hasis says:

    @Milo #130

    I guess a month and a half ago would be considered early.

    Let’s see if Mercer and Harrison can shore up the left side tomorrow – or perhaps you and I can give it a shot. I know my arm is still better than that SS impersonator. I mean shortstop!

  135. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    That’s an amazing stat. Too bad the true heroes of this game (Hank Aaron and Lou Gehrig) get surpassed in the record books by a couple of liars, cheats, and derelicts like Bonds and Rodriguez.

  136. bob hasis says:

    that record of Gehrig’s I thought was untouchable. Ninety-nine per cent of major leaguers don’t even come to bat that many times with the bases loaded – let alone jack one!!!

  137. RobertoForever says:


    I agree with you whole-heartedly.

  138. RobertoForever says:

    Maybe the Bucs will tax the Orioles bullpen like they did to the Reds.

  139. RobertoForever says:

    There’s the Steve Pearce that I remember.

    Right-handed Pearce facing a lefty that can’t seem to throw a strike or get an out. And Steve grounds into a double-play after being up 3-0 in the count.

  140. TDB1977 says:

    Played in my first softball game in nearly 18 years tonight and went 3 for 4 with 3 singles and 1 run scored. I could do better then Pedro did tonight. Where can I sign up to play for the Bucs?

  141. RobertoForever says:

    And Walker with a HR after Presley walks. Nice!

    Walker hitting .372 in June with 2 HR’s and .981 OPS.

    McGehee also hitting well.

  142. JRay3 says:

    Poor pitching and poor defense a recipe for the loss tonight, now have to hope Kevin Correia can step up against this lineup tomorrow to even the series. Reds winners, Cards losing so 1 GB in Central.

    Pirates for second time this season come up short in their attempt to win five straight. The Bucs are 3-6-1 in series where they drop the first game of the set.

  143. bob hasis says:

    Lucky, I have an evaluation to consider; I think Lincoln is having a difficult time adjusting to be a starter. His early inning pitches are like sittin’ ducks served to the batter, with no zip on them and little movement, trying perhaps to pace himself too much.

    He needs to let it fly. His curveball tonight was quite good except he hung a few which are still in orbit.

    But I think he should go back to the pen – or Indy. I am disappointed in him.

  144. Jay G -Jacksonville FL via New Castle says:

    Some of the guys in Indy are throwing well……..Wouldn’t mind seeing Casey get more reps at 3rd…..

  145. JRay3 says:

    @ Jay G – maybe time to give Owens or Locke a look…hope Karstens can get back soon he will be a welcome addition when he can rejoin rotation.

  146. LuckyNKentucky says:


    I agree with you. He just might be the type of pitcher that thrives in the pen. They probably didn’t envision that when they picked him first, but he could still contribute as he did early this season.

  147. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Well that suck-diddly-ucked. Hate those games where the Bucs push across 6 runs and lose. Oh well, get ‘em tomorrow. As for the line, the UNDER wins easily. Thanks to everyone for playing. See you tomorrow.

    JRay3 ** 415
    Nate83 ** 330
    Slack Boss ** 270
    DemonDachshund ** 260
    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) ** 250
    JMB ** 250
    cosmo ** 240
    JaxBuc ** 200
    Officer Mancuso ** 180
    pattonbb ** 150
    Steve J Smith ** 150
    Mlrgenuine ** 140
    bman ** 130
    Bizrow ** 120
    radio wave ** 120
    OZ ** 95
    Evan ** 88
    Chico ** 80
    likeabugonarug ** 70
    Sir Lochsby ** 50
    jeffsbar ** 50
    JohninOshkosh ** 50
    Milo Hamilton ** 25
    MarkV ** 25
    RobertoForever ** 20
    JD ** EVEN
    NMR ** EVEN
    cmat0829 ** EVEN
    Hal Smith ** -20
    bob hasis ** -25
    lawnbeaver ** -25
    Stuart ** -25
    stuart66 ** -30
    TDB1977 ** -40
    tmp444 ** -50
    manny_sanguine ** -60
    Mike C. ** -70
    Arriba Wilver ** -230
    GlassHalfFull ** -260

  148. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Just read that the Cubs have fired their hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo. I’ve always liked him, and I believe Clint Hurdle took over as hitting coach of the Rangers for him after he left to go to the Cubs.

    I highly doubt that Pirates management will consider adding him. But I find it interesting that the Cubs management will offload an “under-performing” hitting coach who is very well known and respected, and our management will not even fathom the thought of replacing our “under-performing” hitting coach who is a virtual unknown.

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