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Final: Indians 2, Pirates 0


Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (32-30) vs. Cleveland Indians (32-30)

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: Progressive Field, Cleveland

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup vs. Cleveland RHP Justin Masterson

  1. Alex Presley, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, DH
  5. Casey McGehee, 1B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Jose Tabata, RF
  8. Rod Barajas, C
  9. Josh Harrison, SS

RHP James McDonald will start for the Pirates.


  1. Aaron says:

    Why Harrison and no Mercer? Why take one of your hottest AAA players and let him rot on the bench for 2 weeks. We could call up Jeff Clement for that. Plus Morton can be placed on the 60 day DL to open up a roster spot.

  2. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Time for the Weekend Three-Play!! Let’s open the window!! THREE count ‘em, THREE separate lines for tonight’s game!!!

    Tonight’s SUPER-DUPER TRIPLE OVER / UNDER SPECTACULAR (always just for fun of course)

    ** Please specify which line and how many units, the window is a terrible psychic **

    LINE #1
    Total Pirates Base-runners Left on Base in TONIGHT’S Game
    Line is 7.5

    LINE #2
    Total Combined Innings Pitched This Weekend by James McDonald + A.J. Burnett
    Line is 13.5

    LINE #3
    Total Games Won by the Pirates in This 3 Game Series Against Cleveland
    Line is 1.5

    Anyone can play!! Everyone should TRY!! What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!


    JRay3 ** 545
    Nate83 ** 290
    Slack Boss ** 280
    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) ** 250
    JMB ** 250
    radio wave ** 240
    cosmo ** 205
    JohninOshkosh ** 200
    Officer Mancuso ** 180
    JaxBuc ** 150
    pattonbb ** 150
    DemonDachshund ** 130
    bman ** 125
    likeabugonarug ** 120
    Chico ** 110
    Steve J Smith ** 100
    Milo Hamilton ** 100
    Evan ** 88
    MarkV ** 75
    Sir Lochsby ** 50
    jeffsbar ** 50
    cmat0829 ** 50
    OZ ** 25
    Mlrgenuine ** EVEN
    lawnbeaver ** EVEN
    NMR ** -20
    Hal Smith ** -20
    Stuart ** -25
    stuart66 ** -30
    JD ** -50
    tmp444 ** -50
    Boise Bucco ** -50
    manny_sanguine ** -60
    Mike C. ** -70
    Bizrow ** -80
    bob hasis ** -100
    RobertoForever ** -140
    TDB1977 ** -140
    Arriba Wilver ** -230
    GlassHalfFull ** -305

    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) 2012 Topps Roberto Clemente Card

  3. Reading says:

    Glad to see a J. Hay siting. Give dude a chance.

  4. OZ says:

    Line 2: 100 on the over,thx window

  5. JAL says:

    Repeat from last thread

    Gerrit Cole promoted to Altoona, will start in AA on Wednesday

  6. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Just read that the Braves DFA’d Livan Hernandez. Could that be the bat we’ve been looking for??

    DK: Are you being sarcastic?

  7. DemonDachshund says:

    @Playoffs –

    UNDER 7.5 LOB, 100.
    OVER 13.5 innings pitched, 50.
    OVER 1.5 wins, 70.

  8. nate83 says:

    Is Micah Owings available?

  9. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    That made me laugh :)
    Just wanted to make my little comment, get a giggle from a few people, and go about my business…….
    The window loves a good laugh.

  10. Arriba Wilver says:

    Playoffs–Man, you make it REALLY difficult. Wow.

  11. T.S. says:

    I agree @Aaron. Why no Mercer? Ponderous, f*$%! ponderous.

    DK: Sorry for this getting stuck, T.S. Did you change screen name?

  12. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @OZ, you got it and good luck!!

    @Demon, you got it and good luck!!

  13. twentytwo22 says:

    @nate lol

    Last night I was checking San Diego’s Chase Headley and their AAA guy who would replace him, Jedd Gyorko and noticed Micah Owings played a game at first base but hasn’t pitched yet.

  14. NMR says:


    When will Gerrit Cole be promoted to AAA?

  15. Arriba Wilver says:

    DK– I responded to your response to NMR on the last thread. Man, that’s really crazy to say to me that you aren’t making any judgments on the testimony about Bradley, and then saying you would tell everyone and his mother if you saw an old guy and a young kid in a shower.

    DK: The reason I’m not making judgment on it is that there’s only one witness testimony. That’s it. And Bradley doesn’t have a chance to defend.

    My point is that, even with that uncertainty, the reflexive reaction is to defend Bradley rather than question all concerned further.

    Hope that explains it a little better.

  16. tdb1977 says:


    I’ll take the following on the lines.

    Line 1 – 100 on the OVAH!
    Line 2 – 100 on the OVAH!
    Line 3 – 100 on the UNDAH!

    This is make or break weekend

  17. Bizrow says:

    Now I know how something being flushed in a toilet feels

    100 OVAH on all three

    I have the same luck buying millionaire lottery tickets

    Whats the record for consecutive losing picks, 19??

  18. Bizrow says:

    If you don’t see your location on this list, please say hey where you are residing

    If you do, please post anyways, the more the merrier


    Dejan’s Lunatic Nation – at the Trib,
    Arizona – Tucson, Chandler, Phoenix
    Arkansas – Rogers
    Austrailia – Mackay
    California – Bakersfield, San Francisco, UNION CITY, Los Angeles, Newport Beach, Hollywood, Huntington Beach, Yuba City
    Canada – Toronto
    China – Singapore
    Colorado – Ft Collins, Estes Park, Denver, Boulder
    Connecticut – Cos Cob, Bridgeport, Wallingford
    Costa Rica
    Czech Republic
    Delaware – Newark
    District of Columbia
    Florida – Palm Harbor, Orlando, Valrico, Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Oviedo, Tampa, Jacksonville, Sarasota, Palm Beach Gardens, Cape Coral, Coco Beach (Major Nelson and Mary Ann)
    Georgia – Marietta, Atlanta, Sandy Springs
    Germany – Leverkusen/Cologne
    Hawaii – Honolulu
    Idaho – Mountain Home, Coer d’Aline
    Indiana – Indianapolis, Burns Harbor, South Bend
    Iowa – Bettendorf, Humboldt
    Illinois – La Salle, Peru, Payson, Chicago, Palatine (3 inmates there), Lincoln Park, Grayslake, Lincoln Park, Algonquin
    Japan – Tokyo
    Kentucky – Louisville, Bowling Green, Lexington
    Louisiana – Slidell
    Maine – Bangor
    Maryland – Arnold, Odenton, Severn, Baltimore, Waldorf
    Massachusetts – Boston
    Michigan – Kalamazoo, Eaton Rapids, Lansing
    Mississippi – Biloxi
    Mountain Home AFB*
    Nebraska – Omaha
    New Hampshire – Barrington
    New Jersey – Chesterfield, Princeton, Roxbury, Lebanon, Lincoln Park, Berkeley Heights, Somerville
    New York – New York, Smithtown, Manhattan
    North Carolina – Asheville, Hickory, Charlotte, Raleigh, Charleston, Wilmington, Chapel Hill
    North Dakota
    Ohio – Cincinnati, Columbiana, Westerville, Green, Hilliard, Toledo, Louisville, Columbus, Perrysburg, Pickerington, Youngstown, Cleveland, Olmsted Township, Liberty Township, Warren, Oregon
    Pennsylvania – Downtown, Hopewell, Indiana, North Wales, Franklin Park, Forest Hills, Lansdale, Philadelphia, Du Bois, Reading, Crafton, Arnold, Wexford, Mt Lebanon, Canonsburg, Lancaster, Huntington, York, Boiling Springs, Philly suburbs, Morningside, Harrisburg, Lawrenceville, Bradfordwoods, Norristown, Hanover, Clearfield, Sewickley, DuBois, Plum Boro, Slippery Rock, Wilks-Barre, Sharpsville, Bessemer, Greensburg, Washington, Imperial, South Side, Duncansville, Newville, Sheppton, Grove City, Butler, Allentown, Ross Township, Blairsville, Flood City (Johnstown), Overbrook, Danny’s Hoagies, Baldwin, Economy, Sharpsville, Erie, North Huntington, Bellfonte, West Mifflin, Kennywood, Pleasant Hills, Beechview (Mad Turk, No 200)
    The Phillipines
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina – Duncan, Longs, Columbia
    South Korea – Seoul, Mike
    Tennessee – Smithville, Nashville
    Texas – Tyler, San Antonio, Belton
    Utah – Salt Lake City
    Vermont – North Bennington
    Virginia – JAL, Hampton, Rescue, Richmond, Front Royal, Woodbridge, Suffolk, Warrenton, Springfield, Virginia Beach, Fairfax, Arlington, Yorktown
    Washington – Seattle, Nine Mile Falls, Spokane, Sammamish
    West Virginia – Martinsburg, Morgantown
    Wisconsin – Madison, Oshkosh, Hortonville

    204 locations represented in the blog,
    10 countries
    38 states, plus the District of Columbia
    Two planets, at least confirmed
    6/15/2012 4:27 PM

  19. NMR says:


    I thought DK was above that, but he’s showing his true colors.

  20. NMR says:

    What people like DK don’t get is that the majority of Penn Staters are disgusted by the actions of everyone involved in this case.

    He makes it sound like Penn Staters do not want Sandusky, Spanier, Schultz, McQuery, Paterno, etc held responsible for their part in the matter.

    Put down the Twitter, DK.

    DK: Why is it so incredibly rare to hear from them?

  21. NMR says:

    You’re in media, DK. Thats an answer you know all too well.

    How many casual sports fans call into radio talk shows?

    Take a step back if you think your popular enough to have the majority emailing and tweeting you.

    You’re dealing with the outspoken minority on a day to day bases, no matter the subject. Don’t forget that.

  22. Bizrow says:

    I don’t see that stuff at all in Dejan’s posts, columns or tweets. I see facts and get the feeling that he like many others are completely disgusted regarding what’s coming out

    IMO, the administration was guilty as sin, “Penn Staters”? My brother in law and sister are “Penn Staters”, they are appalled, Dejan is not criticizing them, but I don’t want or need to speak for him

    Quite a leap NMR, IMHO, who peed on your cheerios today?

  23. Thundercrack says:

    Do you still think Tom Bradley should have been named head coach at Penn State?

    DK: I thought he deserved a chance at the time. As I wrote then, there was ZERO implications involving Bradley. What we just heard might not be much of anything, but it isn’t zero.

  24. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @Arriba, the window appreciates that, the window likes to keep it challenging.

    @tdb, you got it and good luck!!

    @bizrow, GO BIG OR GO HOME!! You got it and good luck!!

  25. RobertoForever says:


    No time to research, and i really have no good feeling on these lines (as usual, excellent lines).

    I’ll take 100 under on the 1st
    75 on the under for the 2nd
    60 on the over for the 3rd

    Thanks for all the hard work (and challenging lines!)

  26. pattonbb says:

    Dejan, what did you do to Stan Savran?

    DK: Nothing. Ever. Other than show respect. How strange.

  27. MarkV says:


    I’ll take 25 on the UNDER for all three lines.

  28. Bizrow says:

    I think a lot of folks were pulling for Bradley to get the Pitt job.

    Hindsight is a beautiful thing, thinking about it, not surprising that many others saw the abberant behaviors. But you don’t want to believe stuff like that about people like Bradley that had nuttin but years of positive performance and actions.

    IMO a lot of people are surprised and saddened by whats coming out. Its worse than most can fathom

  29. bob hasis says:


    Line 1. OVER for 25
    Line 2. UNDER for 25
    Line 3. UNDER for 25

    Thank you

  30. JRay3 says:

    A lot of talk on the blog earlier this morning about Dave Littlefield and Neil Huntington and who might be better or who might we be better off with.

    I would offer this, during his tenure as GM Dave Littlefield oversaw the Pirates compile a 442-581 record for a .432 winning percentage. Neil Huntington who has overseen the Pirates from the ’08 season has guided the club to a 290-419 record for a .403 winning percentage.

    In my estimation even tackling this is like picking the better of two evils. So I will side with I would just like to see option C a General Manager that can demonstrate putting a winner on the field and neither Littlefield or Huntington have any success at that. I would prefer we find the next John Mozeliak or Brian Sabean, you know GM’s that have guided franchises to World Series Title and not mediocrity.

  31. Evan says:

    I leave the world of internet and cell phone reception for 3 days and the Buccos get swept?

    I want 25 on the UNDER for line 1 and 100 on the OVER for lines 2 and 3. Hopefully the DH spot will make it easier for Hurdle to keep the SP in the game…

  32. NMR says:

    @Biz I’m referring to what DK just posted on Twitter where he refers to “Penn Staters” as a whole defending everyone involved. Those are his words, not mine.

    I’ve commended him many, many times for his writing on the issue until now.

    He’s wrong, and won’t admit it.

    DK wants to hear from someone? Hello, I’m right here.

    DK: I hear you loud and clear. You’ve made several posts on this, and I’m pretty sure I responded to the first of those.

  33. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – Well the weekend triple play is back in full force. With that you challenge me to cap and research much so I hope I do not slip with making an attempt at all of these good lines.

    Line 1- OK looking to spot some trends for this line and digging into the month of June and the 12 games the Pirates have played you will spot that they have left an average of 6.08 men on base. Only 3 times in the 12 games have the Pirates left eight or more men on base.

    Play the numbers here that seem to point in one direction….75 on the UNDER

    Line 2 – Now this gets a little more tricky. James McDonald went just 4 IP in his last start, the only other time this season that happened was in April at Arizona, he promptly followed that performance up with a 7 IP effort against the Rockies. In addition, J-Machas pitched at least seven innings in five of his last nine starts and has thrown 100+ pitches in six of his last nine starts. AJ Burnett on the other hand is really allowed to stretch out as he has thrown 100+ pitches in six consecutive starts and has pitched at least seven innings in four of his last seven outings.

    This is an extremely tight line but I like the Pirates top two starters to help the team bounce back….25 on the OVER.

    Line 3 – Tough to cap this one. The Pirates have only been swept one other time this season and that was in Los Angeles back in April. They followed that series up by winning just 1 of 3 at SF. Now in May they lost two games in a row twice (Mets, Reds) and both of those times followed up with a sweep of the Cubs and taking 2 of 3 from the Brewers. After getting outscored 27-12 in Baltimore and quickly falling 3 GB of the Reds I feel this is a somewhat important series against a team the Reds were able to take 2 of 3 from.

    Going slightly against the grain here….25 on the OVER, but maybe playing with my heart.


  34. Milo Hamilton says:


    I think you’re old news, my friend. He’s busy going after Savran.

    DK: Other way around. How strange.

  35. Bizrow says:


    I really liked Cam Bonifay, he is a decent fellow, IMO, and came across with the public much better than DL, no one is worse than NH.

    My earlier point on the subject was Opie threw his chips away and even now, uses the talent in the system when he inherited the job as an excuse for current weaknesses at the major league level. We heard three years, then five, now seven

    The system is pitifully weak with sticks, the draft where NH took 2,243,300 high school pitchers and did not sign many, reminded me of folks laughing at Littlefield during a rule 5 draft.

    I remember the Joe L Brown weekly show, we’d all make sure we listened to that.

    Can’t say the same fuzzy warm feeling with the current regime

  36. Thundercrack says:

    I may be mis-remembering , and your November 11 column may shed some light on this, but I though you pressed PSU pretty hard to name Bradley the permanent head coach. Again, I may be wrong but I thought it was more than “he deserved a chance”.

    Doesn’t matter much now I guess.

    DK: It’s a daily newspaper, TC, as we say in the business. Situations one day aren’t the same the next. So if that’s what you mean with the last sentence, I wholeheartedly agree.

    And no, I didn’t pound the drum very hard for Bradley. Wrote that he deserved a chance and, mostly, that if he were to succeed, it would show that Penn State wouldn’t need outsiders to solve its problems.

  37. Nate83 says:

    Since i get to watch all the Indians games i will get to watch myself miss on these predictions.

    Line 1 – 50 on the over
    Line 2 – 25 on the under
    Line 3 – 50 on the over

    As always thanks.

  38. JUCOFan says:

    @Bizrow — logging in from Henrico, VA (outside of Richmond).

    Remember when we were all talking about how deep our pitching was. Seems like only a few weeks ago….oh, it was.

  39. NMR says:


    He doesn’t listen to me anyways, apparently, since I’ve been saying since last year that I wanted everyone involved held accounted for. And I’m not the only one on this blog.

    He only hears from the “Penn Staters”.

    I’ll be sure to question him Monday morning after I read Colin Mcnickles Sunday opinion column, now that we’re making broad assumptions.

  40. SlackBoss says:


    #1 – 60 on the under

    #2 – 60 on the under

    #3 – 60 on the Over!

    Good luck to all this weekend – Let’s go Bucs!

  41. radio wave says:

    at playoffs:
    I’ll go for 60 on the over on all 3 lines tonight.
    Great fun, and everyone have a good weekend.

  42. SlackBoss says:

    @all what gets a better return in trades – all star position player or all star pitcher?

  43. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @Roberto, you got it and good luck!!

    @MarkV, you got it and good luck!!

    @bob, you’re welcome, you got it and good luck!!

    @Evan, welcome back, you got it and good luck!!

    @JRay, you are the king of detailed analysis and the the king at the window, you got it and good luck!!

    @Nate, that crack on yourself made the window laugh, you got it and good luck!!

    @Slack, you got it and good luck!!

    @radio, you got it and good luck!!

  44. JRay3 says:

    @ SlackBoss – Totally just my opinion and nothing to back it up…but would have to say All-Star position player. I mean Kevin Correia was an All-Star pitcher last year. Also pitchers more likely to go hot and cold take a look at Tim Lincecum – 2-7 6.00 ERA 1.58 WHIP this year. Look at Ian Kennedy 5-6 4.32 ERA, 1.34 WHIP coming off of a 2011 of 21-4 2.88 ERA and 1.04 WHIP.

    Seems to be far more consistency with position players.

  45. pattonbb says:

    Playoffs –

    Line 1 – 100 on the under
    Line 2 – 50 on the over
    Line 3 – 100 on the over

    They’ll take 2 of 3 from the Tribe and try to forget they ever visited Baltimore….

    thank you

  46. JRay3 says:

    @ JAL – thanks for the scoop, happy to hear the FO finally moved Cole up a level, he appears to be on a little faster track now than Tallion.

  47. Milo Hamilton says:


    Not the way I read it. And yes, I did listen to the interview.

    DK: Read what, Milo? Now you’ve got me all confused.

  48. JAL says:


    He should because he is older with college experience.

  49. cosmo says:

    @ Playoffs

    ok here we go

    1. let’s go 50 on the under
    2. they have to pitch better than in Bmore right, 75 on the over
    3. tough one considering both teams just got swept, here’s hoping our pitching is better than theirs. 50 on the over

  50. Milo Hamilton says:


    Re-tweeting all the derogatory tweets aimed at Stan. And whatever the Cam Bonifay angle is.

    DK: You’re saying I initiated that?

  51. Mlrgenuine says:

    @ Playoffs
    Line 1 – Under for 50
    Line 2 – Over for 50
    Line 3 – Over for 100

    Lets Go Bucs!

  52. SlackBoss says:

    @JRay – i forgot that KC was an all-star last year. I think I need an asterisk to qualify that comparison. But I am wondering if the BFOIBB has a long term strategy of trading pitchers for position players. It’s definitely a risky strategy, but given the starting point for the BFOIBB, I can understand the gamble. It wil be interesting to see once the Pirates truly compete, who might want to come here. Even though I haven’t lived in the burg in a couple or 4 decades, I still recommend it as a great place to lived. In fact my youngest may move there this fal. Great sports town, great environment, great people.

  53. likeabugonarug says:

    Wow, can JRay get in depth or what? Cool stuff.

    Window, please accept the following donations:

    Line 1: 25 on the under…….gotta get runners on base regularly to have them left on;

    Line 2: 50 on the over…..think these guys will take the bull by the horns. don’t know that they’ll get wins but I think they’ll at least keep us in their games;

    Line 3: Geez is this one tough. Think I’ll take 25 on the over. that’s what I’m thinking…..ummmmmm. Did I say this one was tough? Want to hope they’ll take 2 out of 3…. Yeah, 25 on the over.

  54. JohninOshkosh says:


    Love your game so much, that I cant be shut out on the weekend lines.

    On a crowded bus on the Kennedy in Chicago coming back from the Cubs/Sawx game. No time to research and not sure what all 3 lines are again but 100 OVER on all three lines.

  55. Milo Hamilton says:


    “But dad, he started it !” Sorry, you lost me with that one.

    You wrote a column, somebody didn’t like it. As Doris Day says to her menagerie of pets dutifully assembled around her, Que Sera Sera.

    DK: It’s not that someone didn’t like it. A LOT of someone’s don’t like every piece. Human nature.

    Rather, it’s that:

    1. A long respected colleague out of nowhere came out with venomous sounding rant. Extremely surprising.

    2. I genuinely don’t think the piece was even read.

    If you have a problem with my responding to that, Milo, I respect it. I feel it’s right.

  56. Chico says:


    Line 1: 30 on the under
    Line 2: 50 on the over
    Line 3: 30 on the over

  57. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Tough blog tonight. Glad I’m a Buckeye fan. We’re all scarlet and lilly white. Never any controversy there.


    Glad for Strickland. He’s been in some form of A-ball for several years. Saw him pitch a few years back before he was in the Pirate’s organization. Thought he threw well then.

  58. JAL says:


    He had not pitched since the middle of the 2010 season, came back strong this season

  59. cosmo says:

    why is Rob King doing play by play on ROOT tonite.

  60. JAL says:

    Could be vacation series for regular announcer, illness, or personal matter for an announcer

  61. SlackBoss says:

    @JAL heard Savran had an option left so he is calling the game in AAA tonight. J/k

  62. bob hasis says:

    @Cosmo #60

    You raise an interesting question. For some reason they thought it necessary to dismiss Lacee, was Tim Neverett next? Did he say something derogatory about PBC? Or is he ill?
    If an announcment was made, I missed it

  63. Milo Hamilton says:

    Tim Neverett’s son is graduating from high school tonight.

  64. JRay3 says:

    A lot of talk the past few days about how far from the plate Alvarez sets his stance. That AB Masterson pitches him to the outside corner of the plate and Alvarez barely gets the end of the bat on it and grounds weakly to SS.

    My question, why does Gregg Ritchie not notice this?

  65. JRay3 says:

    @ Slackboss – You know I have never lived in Pittsburgh, father in Carlisle but have been many times and I too recommend the city. Was accepted to Pitt but went to smaller school in NC to play ball. My six year old has been told she has no choice where she will attend school -so mine will get there eventually!

  66. JRay3 says:

    @ JohninOshKosh – How was Wrigley, had you been before? Going for first time in Sept. to see Bucs there.

  67. bob hasis says:



  68. Milo Hamilton says:


    By the way, I believe they have a copy of the Cam Bonifay dismissal press conference at the Cam Bonifay Presidential Library on the campus of Georgia Tech. If memory serves me correctly, it’s right next to the John Van Benschoten display.

  69. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Thanks. I knew he was hurt. Didn’t realize it was that long a recovery for him.

  70. Officer Mancuso says:

    JMac after 2 acelike, and more than 1 k/inn. Nice change after the June Baltimore swoon which sent every aging Pirates fan into flashback horror traumatic stress syndrome fetal curl mode. GO BUCS.

  71. JRay3 says:

    Alarming that the Pirates have struck out five times through first three innings and four consecutive. Would be nice if the bats would start a game hot and build off that.

  72. JRay3 says:

    J-Mac his own worst enemy way too many pitches each at bat, 65 pitches and still one out to get in third.

  73. T.S. says:

    No worries, DK. Didn’t change my screen name. Twas using a different browser. :)

  74. JRay3 says:

    Time for the bats to awake one Neil Walker hit is all the offense to this point. Reds up four on the Mets and appear in position to win fourth straight.

  75. T.S. says:

    Savran is an odd duck. Like Ron Cook. But don’t get me started.

  76. JohninOshkosh says:


    Ahh, back at the hotel. Public transportation can be very challenging at times!

    No, I’ve been to Wrigley many times. I am town for a family reunion. My brother and wife wanted to go to the game so we went. I rarely turn down going to a sporting event, even if I don’t have a rooting interest in either team. I saw Theo on the field on his cell phone-maybe talking to NH about Youkilis?

    I suggest when you come that you get to the neighborhood early. Walk around the park and take in the scene. Very festive. Don’t know if you drink but go into one of the local bars and have a beer or two. People in this town love their beer. Oh and proudly wear your Bucco gear. You may get some ribbing but we Midwesterners, and Chicagoans, in particular, are a friendly good-natured sort of people.

    They have this funny game that goes on in some of the sections. They pass a cup that you put a dollar in. If the batter triples or homers or whatever hit is specified, then you get to keep the money that has accumulated in the cup. If the batter does not get that specific hit, then you pass it to the next guy and he puts in his dollar and gets the next batter and so on. Today they were playing triple. The pot had grown a bit and Dempster tripled with a birthday girl holding the cup. So she got the money. It blew everyone away. I was sitting by some crew members for the Conan O’brien show who was in town this week.

    You will have a blast, I guarantee.

  77. JRay3 says:

    Pirates last five batters- K,K,K,K,K…good grief

  78. twentytwo22 says:

    The Indians’ hitters have stood there and watched 45 of McDonald’s 67 pitches.

  79. dave says:

    I was at the game last night and in my eyes, two plays went against the Bucs and cost them some runs. The fact that neither play was replayed in the stadium lends credence to my view, since every other play that went the O’s way WAS replayed. One was the non-double play at third on Pedro’s grab of the liner. The second was Tabata’s trap. Did anyone see replays of these plays? If so, what did they show.

  80. Dan1283 says:

    Tough crowd in here, tough crowd I tell ya!

  81. JRay3 says:

    And Jones makes it 6 straight down on strikes. Just to put this in perspective, Masterson in his last 12 starts had struck out more than six in a start one time (8) versus the Royals on May 29th, and he has already fanned seven of the first 11 outs.

  82. JRay3 says:

    @ JohninOshKosh – Thanks for sharing, sounds like a great time with great people looking forward to the experience.

  83. JRay3 says:

    And Tabata makes it seven straight to strike out, swinging at a pitch in the other batter’s box and leaving the bases loaded.

  84. twentytwo22 says:

    Tabata looks at a 90 mph nothing pitch over the middle of the plate. The same pitch that Ludwick cleared the bases on last week. Tabata strikes out on a slider nowhere near the plate. I’m sick of the incompetent hitters. Another garbage performance against another garbage pitcher. All these pitchers they are facing perform poorly when they throw the ball over the plate. Normal teams force them to get them out on strikes and they tee off on them because those pitchers can’t. The Pirates are so inept that they can’t force pitchers to get them out. They walk into the batter’s box already defeated.

  85. cosmo says:

    Again the Pirate hitter’s make the opposing pitcher look like a cy young award winner.Masterson looking like Bob Friend tonight.

  86. JRay3 says:

    Give credit to J-Mac, he has labored at times but is doing his part to keep the team in the ballgame. Would be nice for the offense to reciprocate.

  87. JRay3 says:

    Runner on third less than two outs, and Jones pops up to shallow second…and than Casey grounds out….tired of the wasted opportunities when you should be able to get the run across.

  88. cosmo says:

    lead off double by Walker, wasted. stranded at third.

  89. dcpfjr says:

    To reciprocate implies motion. Motion implies life. There is no life in this offense, therefore, no reciprocity.

  90. JRay3 says:

    How many times is Pedro going to watch strike three without even swinging the bat?

  91. Officer Mancuso says:

    James McDonald is the real deal.

  92. cosmo says:

    JMac near the dreaded 100 pitch number. Doesn’t look good for him to come out to pitch in the 7th.

  93. JRay3 says:

    Come on Alex! Big AB here.

  94. JRay3 says:

    Tip of the hat to you J-Mac, you did your part and unfortunately as too often is the case just absolutely zero support behind you and a team incapable of getting a big or timely hit.

  95. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Alex Presley has started hitting everything in the air again. Not a good sign.

  96. cosmo says:

    Well AJ will have to pitch into the 8th tomorrow. Curse the 100 pitch limit.

  97. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    By the way the window got everyone’s (fake) wagers recorded. Thank you again.

  98. Sucky night at the plate, but an awesome gun to nail Damon at the dish for the third out. Come on Bats let’s get JMac off the hook. He doesn’t need this loss.

  99. cosmo says:

    Nice throw by Presley to get Damon at the plate. Now as the Gunner would say ” we need a bloop and a blast”

  100. I’m back gang. It was horrible to witness that batting practice that the Bucs threw against the Orioles yesterday.

    On the cool side. Stopped by Fort McHenry for the first time today, and saw two War of 1812 reenactors and they saw me wearing a Pirates shirt and asked if I knew that Mike McKenry had stopped by the Fort on Tuesday. They were almost stunned that I knew about it and from a newspaper of all things. They seemed to think (and it was) that it was a cool thing that he came by the Fort.

  101. JRay3 says:

    @ Steve – welcome back…wish the team would have provided a better showing. Sounds like a great trip.

  102. cosmo says:

    Another double digit strikeout performance by the Pirate hitters tonite. Reds are winning 6-3 over the Mets.

  103. @JRay, yes it was a good trip otherwise. Great weather. Not too hot. Blue Angels both days provided some cool stuff during their practices. The tall ships and Navy ships were cool to see. Though I can’t make it up there during the week, it would be cool to see them sail out as they are supposed to go by Fort McHenry on the way out or something like that. I’ll eventually have photos on my website and will post them when I get them on there.

  104. One of the walks tonight has scored the ONLY run, so I hope these two walks don’t come back to make it an even bigger hill to climb in the top of the ninth.

  105. bob hasis says:

    I have a provocative question (at least in my mind); Is the absence of playing ability (skill) the same as incompetence?

    Because (again in my mind) we are loaded with one or the other – or both.

  106. And there it is on a very straight fastball down the middle hit right back up the middle. Mostly the ball game there, but I hope not.

  107. Milo Hamilton says:

    That’s it. I’m going to hold my breath until something is done to improve this historically anemic offense.

  108. It seems like they got to first place tie this year, and now have chosen to go on their dive earlier than last year. Now just that one game over .500 and soon to be 4 games out if the Reds hold on. I hope AJ provides the stopping power that we need tomorrow. JMac pitched a great game from the looks of it, and takes the loss because of only 5 hits from the offense AGAIN. Let’s Go Bucs and Man Up!!

  109. twentytwo22 says:

    Jason Grilli with a 24 pitch 2 out 8th inning. Pestano with a 9 pitch 8th and Perez with a 5 pitch save. The Pirates have no clue what they are doing at the plate. Tabata, with a 1-0 count swings at a ball high and away. Even if that was a strike there was no reason for him to swing at it. Stupid approach. Stupid execution. Worthless results.

  110. cosmo says:

    guess it’s time to watch the guy walk over niagara falls

  111. JRay3 says:

    Well in four short days the Pirates have gone from feel good story tied for first place and five games above .500 to a team 4 GB of first, tied for second and as close to 4th place and just one game above .500 with still far too many question marks on offense.

    This is probably the most disheartening loss of the streak as it wasted a very good pitching performance the games this team needs to win. We witnessed what happens when the pitching is not that strong in Baltimore.

    Moves need to be made, the question is will they be made in time or will this recent slide become the start of something bigger.

  112. twentytwo22 says:

    Watching Cleveland hitters stand at the plate watching all night, I dub them the Cleveland Cigar Store Indians. Here are the Cigar Store Indians’ stats for the night.

    Inning) Pitches Taken/Pitches Swung At

    1) 17-4
    2) 10-10
    3) 18-9
    4) 8-4
    5) 5-6
    6) 8-3
    7) 4-6
    8) 19-13
    T) 89-55

    Pitches Taken 61.8%
    Pitches Swung At 38.2%

    One pitch off. The CBS scoreboard says they threw 143 pitches, but the Play-by-Play says 144. I did it twice.

    Burnett won’t pitch 5 innings tomorrow. That will be a loss. They will kill Brad Lincoln. and the Pirates will be a perfect 6-6 on the roadtrip.

  113. JRay3 says:

    @ Twentytwo22 -interesting stats, what a thought a team with a plan and an approach at the plate they feel gives them a shot to win, now there is a novel idea.

  114. twentytwo22 says:

    A highwire walker wearing a harness isn’t a highwire walker. Hey look everybody I’m walking across the street during rush hour at a red light. Ain’t I brave.

  115. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Oakland has released Manny Ramirez…………………….are we desperate enough to take a flier on him?

  116. bob hasis says:

    I’m a Yankee-hater because for one thing, they go out and purchase championships, but I truly am impressed with their offense 1 – 8. That lineup is loaded with skill, speed and power and they are a pleasure to watch.

    I’m wondering if the ratio of their talent (if it can be measured) in comparison to the combined salaries of those 8 players, can be evaluated logically against the Pirates 1 – 8 and the salary of our eight.

    In simpler words, is either team getting a true “bang for their buck”?

    I don’t know, but the Yankees are really exciting to watch!

  117. DemonDachshund says:

    Tabata must have had the under tonight.

  118. bob hasis says:


    I doubt it; remember we have Tabata. Watching an over the hill addict like ManRam who can’t run anymore, and the possibility exists can’t hit anymore would be similar to a return to the days of the uninspired George Hendrix.

    I mention Tabata because to me he is just a younger version of ManRam (sans addiction), and we don’t need two.

  119. pghboyinca says:

    Are you kidding me? Brandon Moss comes up for Oakland a week ago and hits 6 home runs in 27 at bats???

  120. JRay3Wife says:

    Can someone tell my husband that I’m looking for him?

  121. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Bucs leave 7 on base and the UNDER wins. Thank you to all who played. See you later today.

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  122. John Lease says:

    Not to put pressure on AJ, but the season rides on him shutting out the Indians tonight.

    And for the Penn State stuff, as another alum, I’m disgusted by the absolute reflexive defense bullcrap. And by the morons who were there ‘protesting’ Joe getting canned. It’s been very obvious right from the start the University covered that stuff up and hoped it would go away, from the very start. And it worked, because people didn’t give a rat’s ass about children being victimized, they only cared about Joe and his cult of followers. When this all comes out, they better be removing any statue to Joe that is left. He knew about it, and did nothing.

  123. Karen22 says:

    I’m not wasting any more time on the Pirates until they do something…ANYTHING…about this pathetic lineup.

  124. Drew71 says:

    “DK: Why is it so incredibly rare to hear from them?”

    And I’m incredibly late to this party.

    I am Penn State. And I recall writing two long painful (to me) posts about all of this, once it became relatively clear what was going on. Felt sort of like I looked around the room to find the longest sword, and threw myself on it.

    I do not think I justified the unjustifiable. I said, essentially, it stinks. I said I didn’t initially want to believe it, and maybe was blind to it. I said we need to understand. I said it needs to be cleansed.

    And you know what? This is not about me. Lots of other PSers, at the time this was becoming clear, wrote the same.

    So. Now it is months later. Are we supposed to repeat those posts Every Stinking Time there is breaking news? Many of us said it. It was not rare, it was just months ago. I can’t speak for others, but my thoughts haven’t changed.

    That’s not rare. That’s not being repetitive. But if that’s what is required…

    It STILL stinks. It STILL needs to be understood. It STILL requires a cleansing.

    But I’m not taking to twitter to say it over and over and over.

    Wait a minute. It’s 2012. Maybe that IS rare.

  125. JRay3 says:

    @ Karen22- here’s to the FO doing anything, which has been so obviously apparent they need to do.

  126. Chuck H says:

    Are the Pirate BRASS really satisfied with the performance of the inept, undisciplined free swingers in the Pirate lineup? Trouble is, they are watching the good pitches and swinging at the bad pitches. That won’t get you many hits. Mercer is sitting on the bench while Barmes is stinking up the lineup every day. Harrison is not much better.

    Tabata appears to be playing without a clue of how to play. Even Andrew, lately, is terrible at the plate. The whole team sucks. I have absolutely no confidence in any of the Pirate hitters. Even mediocre pitchers are striking them out with wreckless abandon.and when you are swinging at bad pitches, it makes it easy for those pitchers. Let’s stop this June Swoon and start hitting. The pitching will remain good.

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