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Final: Cardinals 5, Pirates 4

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (42-35) vs. St. Louis Cardinals (40-38)

Time: 2:15 p.m.

Site: Busch Stadium, St. Louis

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup vs. St. Louis RHP Jake Westbrook

  1. Ales Presley, CF
  2. Jose Tabata, RF
  3. Garrett Jones, 1B
  4. Neil Walker, 2B
  5. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  6. Drew Sutton, LF
  7. Clint Barmes, SS
  8. Michael McKenry, C
  9. Erik Bedard, LHP

UPDATE 1:25 p.m.: Andrew McCutchen and Joel Hanrahan were named All-Stars, both eminently deserving. My thoughts on James McDonald being snubbed.


  1. Baywatch says:

    From what I understand, a win puts us 8 above .500 for the first time since 1992. Another glimmer of hope that we fall NOT into another death spiral, with a win today?

  2. dcpfjr says:

    That lineup just doesn’t look right with Cutch not in it.

  3. JRay3 says:

    Admire Cutch for his quotes about taking days off, however, Clint is doing the smart thing here. The can’t take any chances with their franchise player so give him the day to rest and treat the wrist.

    Bigger question to me is the condition of Rod Barajas, after playing Friday he is sitting for second straight day. His injury also depletes the bench as the team has to continue to carry Fryer.

    How great it would be if the Pirates could get their third sweep of the season today, to do so Erik Bedard will need to turn in a solid performance on the mound.

    Let’s Go Bucs.

  4. JohninOshkosh says:

    Today’s starting lineup for the Redbirds:

    Furcal ss

    Carpenter 1b

    Holliday lf

    Craig rf

    Freese 3b

    Molina c

    Robinson cf

    Greene 2b

    Westbrook p

  5. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Sweeping in St. Louis!! That is today’s theme. Let’s open the window!!

    Today’s OVER / UNDER (always just for fun of course)

    Total Combined Hits + Walks by Neil Walker
    Line is 2.5

    49 Current Participants!!
    If you haven’t played yet, what are you waiting for??!!??
    Anyone can play!! Everyone should TRY!!
    What’ll ya have!! What’ll ya have!!


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    Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) ** 950
    Mlrgenuine ** 810
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    pattonbb ** 750
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    radio wave ** 645
    Evan ** 628
    Chico ** 575
    manny_sanguine ** 400
    jeffsbar ** 400
    Slack Boss ** 385
    cosmo ** 380
    RobertoForever ** 345
    MarkV ** 330
    Officer Mancuso ** 280
    JaxBuc ** 270
    JohninOshkosh ** 250
    JMB ** 250
    likeabugonarug ** 232
    bman ** 210
    crkkid ** 175
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    JUCOfan ** 25
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    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) 2012 Topps Roberto Clemente Card

  6. dcpfjr says:

    OK, Playoffs, give me 100 on the under, but I’ll be rooting against myself, lol.

  7. JohninOshkosh says:


    Enjoyed your Buster Poindexter reference yesterday. What a career for David Johansen-from The New York Dolls to Scrooged!


  8. Kevin says:

    Gonna have to go with 100 on the under as well, Playoffs. Like dcp I will be rooting against myself as well

  9. @Playoffs, I am going to go with 50 on the UNDER, but I hope he does have a great game. Thanks.

  10. mlrgenuine says:

    @Playoffs – Having tech difficulties today. Not sure if this posted twice or not

    50 on the under today, although I won’t be upset if I miss this one.

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  11. bman says:


    I’ll take 60 on the UNDER

  12. Markv says:


    Give me 50 on the Under. Thanks.

  13. likeabugonarug says:


    Please give me 75 on the under.

    Let him have one of his on base times as reaches on an error. :-)

  14. SlackBoss says:

    @ playoffs – 100 on the under, please

  15. Mike C. says:

    i sooo wanted to stay positive, but
    oh, wth

    I’ll take 50 for the OVER

  16. jaxbuc says:

    I’ll go against conventional wisdom and hope for a breakout day in the cleanup spot. Give me 40 on the OVER please.

  17. JRay3 says:

    Congrats Joel Hanrahan and Andrew McCutchen on being selected to the NL All-Star team!

  18. Nate83 says:

    100 on the under thanks.

  19. JohninOshkosh says:

    Find it absurd that the awful Cubs have 2 players on the AS team.

  20. Nate83 says:

    Jmac snub stinks but I think he will be added as a replacement. Burnett snub is a shame as well but not as bad.

  21. RobertoForever says:

    I saw a tweet by Tom Singer that said AJ, and J-Mac will pitch Sat and Sun, so therefore would be unable to pitch in ASG. While I understand it, I call BS and say they should have been added.

  22. Chico says:


    100 on the under


  23. JRay3 says:

    @ JohninOshKosh – maybe just maybe one of those Cub All-Stars will find their way to the Pirates lineup…LaHair?? Heard the Twins have come out and said Willingham will not be on the market eliminating one bat from the ranks.

  24. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Last year Hanrahan was the only one originally selected to the All Star Game, but on Saturday night McCutchen was added to the roster and on Sunday morning Correia was added as well. Same thing could happen with both J-Mac and AJ.

  25. JohninOshkosh says:


    I wonder if being named to the ASG increases the trade cost. I wouldn’t think too much but I can imagine Epstein saying, “well, he is an All Star…:

    Also, I get the Chicago Tribune Sunday paper and their baseball reporter, Phil Rogers, suggested that Jed Lowrie could end up a Bucco. I love Lowrie as a ballplayer and I think he would really solidify shortstop. Rogers didn’t mention who the Astros would be wanting for him.

  26. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – I like the theme of the day…boy it would be something to sweep the Cards, something not done in these parts since the Bonds, Bonilla days.

    Taking a look at today’s line got me to dive into Neil Walker and his individual game performances this year. In 75 games, Walker has gotten at least 3 hits+walks 11 times. In the month of June he has done it six times and in this series has already done it once. With Alvarez hitting behind him not sure if he continues to get pitched around as that strategy has failed twice the past two days.

    Time to play the numbers and take 100 on the UNDER

    Thanks and go Bucs!

  27. RobertoForever says:


    Very nice line today, and especially appropriate considering Walker has an 8 game streak of getting on base, a 5 game walk streak, a 4 game hit streak, and has had a sequence of 3 hits, 1 hit, 3 hits and 1 hit in the last 4 games.

    One might guess that he is due for a multi-hit game, but on my review, it appears there is a reverse Day-dro with Walker lately.

    So I will go with the under for 90.

    Sweep Em Bucs!

  28. Better Days Coming says:

    I would be reluctant to give up anything of value for LaHair. After a blazing start he’s been sliding back to Garrett Jones like numbers. And he’s just as bad against lefthanders.

  29. Milo66 says:

    100 the over please. Go Bucs!

  30. JRay3 says:

    Isn’t it at least refreshing that today the Pirates have multiple all-stars and there is a discussion about potential snubs, as opposed to who would be the obligatory selection from the team like year’s past?

  31. manny _sanguine says:


    100 on the under


  32. Mlrgenuine says:

    Playoffs… having tech difficulties and not seeing ny posts. Id like 50 on the under.

  33. JohninOshkosh says:

    Great point JRay (#29)

    I don’t really care about the ASG myself. Very rarely watch it and, if I do, maybe only an inning or two. It’s a good honor for the players. Plus I guess this year is significant because I would rather have 4 games played at PNC this October!

  34. JMB says:

    100 on the UNDER if possible.

  35. aglebagel says:

    Unfortunately the voters messed up the NL outfield so bad that I doubt Cutch will even be Kemp’s replacement. LaRussa will probably pick Braun.

  36. JohninOshkosh says:

    Plus LaRussa does have a fondness for the steroid users.

  37. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    @dcpf, you got it and good luck!!

    @John, The Window has always been a fan of Mr. Johansen’s work, you got it and good luck!!

    @Kevin, you got it and good luck!!

    @Steve, you got it and good luck!!

    @Mlr, gotcha good buddy, you got it and good luck!!

    @bman, you got it and good luck!!

    @Mark V, you got it and good luck!!

    @likeabug, you got it and good luck!!

    @Slack, you got it and good luck!!

    @Mike C, The Window likes the positivity, you got it and good luck!!

    @Jaxbuc, again The Window likes the positivity, you got it and good luck!!

    @Nate, you got it and good luck!!

    @Chico, you got it and good luck!!

    @JRay, you got it and good luck!!

    @Roberto, you got it and good luck!!

    @manny, you got it and good luck!!

    @JMB, you got it and good luck!!

    @Milo66, The Window welcomes you, you got it and good luck!!

  38. Better Days Coming says:

    With MLB placing much more emphasis on the result of the AS Game i.e. home field advantage, don’t they really have to reduce the impact of fan voting? Pablo Sandoval? Mike Napoli?

    IMO the fan participation should be reserved for the final man vote.

    Also, maybe time to reconsider the obligation of every team having a representative.

  39. aglebagel says:

    @Better Days Coming-

    I was thinking both of those things today!

    -It’s one thing to let the fans decide who plays if it’s only an exhibition, but if it counts for something…

    -I’ve always been against every team needing a representative. I believe it cheapens the experience not only for the fans at large, by pushing out a more deserving player, but for the fans of the bad team as well. I always found it embarrassing to send a player who clearly wasn’t worthy, and then it doesn’t mean as much when you’ve actually got a legitimate All-Star, because everyone assumes he’s just there as your “representative.”

  40. JRay3 says:

    That is a case of missing your spot badly on a 0-2 pitch, McKenry set up low and away and Bedard’s pitch tailed up and middle in and Molina crushed it.

    Is it just me or does Bedard just seem lethargic, uncomfortable, unenergetic when he pitches? His facial expressions,grimaces just perplex me.

  41. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Head down and think triple. Love it!

  42. JRay3 says:

    Trip trip triple for Presley, get him in Tabby!

  43. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Inexcusable by Tabata. There is a reason he only has 11 RBI so far this year.

  44. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    This inning is 100 percent on Tabata. A simple fly ball ties the game. Absolutely inexcusable by him.

  45. Joey Bats says:

    Why does Tabata continue to get a “scholarship?”

    DK: Getting harder and harder for the Pirates to defend, at least on the effort front.

  46. Eric Bowser says:

    Penguins are still in the hunt for winger Zach Parise

  47. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Oh well. I’ll take 2 out of 3.

  48. JRay3 says:

    @ Playoffs – The Cardinals broadcast displayed a stat that said Tabata was 0-7 with runner on third less than 2 outs with 0 RBI.

    Bedard serves up his second long ball of the day and now the Bucs have their work cut out for them this afternoon.

  49. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Zach Parise??
    Come on!!
    Penguins don’t play until October…..October!!

    This is Pirates season

  50. JMB says:

    The under seemed like a gimme…oh well.

  51. JRay3 says:

    Sutton with double at the wall gives the Pirates two runners in scoring position and chance to get answer and get back into this. If there was ever an AB Barmes to come though….

  52. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    These 2 at-bats from Barmes and McKenry are huge.

  53. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Way to go Mr. Barmes!! I’ll take it!!

  54. Better Days Coming says:


    You mean to tell me you weren’t glued to the television on that July night in 2003 just waiting so you could see Mike Williams show his stuff to the baseball world?

    If they’re going to revamp the game then revamp it. Even with the home field incentive it still feels like a carnival sideshow.

    And can we please shelve the home run derby? At least get Chris Berman out of the booth.

  55. JMB says:

    Fire the cannons!

  56. JRay3 says:

    RBI single for Barmes on nice job protecting the plate with two strikes. How about some more magic from the Fort?

  57. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    THE FORT!!!!

  58. JRay3 says:

    YES….THREE RUN BOMB for the FORT!!!

    @ Playoffs – Believe, I would rather take 3 of 3!

  59. Mikey!!!!!! 4-3 lead now with a grand blast!

  60. Eric Bowser says:

    @Playoffs – Hey, DK didn’t open a section for it and figured if folks are watching the game, it wouldn’t hurt.

    The Fort – Unreal!!

  61. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Amen brother!!

  62. MadTurk says:

    There was talk early in the season about the Fort taking batting practice and working on strength and conditioning to be a better batter with more power. Well I think it has paid off for him and the Pirates.

  63. Jandy says:

    Hey Playoffs, it’s free agent day, so Zach Parise is a valid comment :P

  64. Jandy says:

    Eric, I’m following it too :)

  65. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Didn’t mean to come of as harsh to ya there, but this is literally my favorite time of the year. No Penguins ’til October.

  66. Jandy says:

    Glad to see the Fort doing so well.

  67. DemonDachshund says:

    With McKenry playing like this, I don’t care if Barajas is healthy. Ride the red hot bat while it lasts.

  68. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    I’m guessing that was Hurdle’s thoughts today as well. You gotta believe that Barajas catches J-Mac and AJ on Monday and Tuesday, so why not ride the hot bat for Sunday?

  69. JRay3 says:

    Since Barajas got hurt here are Mike McKenry’s hitting numbers:

    11-23 .478 3 HR’s, 8 RBI.

    I don’t believe he could ever be an everyday player but you have to love having a guy like him on the team. Work ethic, plays hard and provides a spark. In his brief two year time with the Pirates he has come up with a handful of big moments.

  70. DemonDachshund says:

    @Playoffs – If the Bucs had been in the chase for Pujols, would that not have been a valid discussion in November? Even though the Bucs weren’t going to be playing for another 4 months?

    This part of the year for the Pens is just as important, imho, as the middle of their season is.

  71. Jandy says:

    Demon, well said!

  72. JRay3 says:

    Nice 1-2-3 inning by Bedard right after the team gets him four runs. Get the bats right back after it.

  73. Jandy says:

    Nice pitching Bedard

  74. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    I’m biased since I don’t really care for both the Penguins or hockey for that matter. Not my intention to come off as snide. So please, I hope no one takes it that way. Just trying to enjoy the Penguins and hockey silence as it were. I’ll keep my opinions to myself on the subject for the future. By no means am I trying to rock the boat, so to speak.

  75. Jandy says:

    Playoffs, lol, no offense taken…the snide comment was priceless ;)

  76. DemonDachshund says:

    @JRay3 –

    Fort is, in my book, exactly what I want in my backup catcher. Great intangibles and attitude, solid defense. If he hits under .200, who cares? His role doesn’t require that.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if the past week saved his job, though. I suspect the plan was to keep Fryer up after Barajas was healthy again, and I’m very glad to see the Fort cement his place a bit.

  77. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    I’ve noticed that is the unofficial word of the blog.

  78. Jandy says:

    Playoffs, very astute observation!

  79. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    …..and Bedard giveth back another 2 strike RBI

  80. Nothing good ever comes from lead off walks or hit-by-pitches. This inning is not this bad if he doesn’t hit Carpenter.

  81. I thought Bedard was one of the better pitchers on pitching inside – which is what Rock Wehner has been harping on all series. So far most of his pitches that have been killed have been out and over the plate.

  82. RobertoForever says:


    Hurdle must have some fake units on the under. He just took Walker out for Harrison in that double switch. Interesting. Guess the under wins.

  83. RobertoForever says:

    I saw some comments on Tabata. I don’t understand the continued negative focus.

    Tabata had his best month of the year in June with a .263 BA, .356 OBP and .738 OPS.

    Most of that came from his hitting in the lats 5 of 6 starts. To me, that seems like the improvement we want to see, no?

    Hurdle thought he needed to improve, he addressed, Jose improved. What am I missing?

  84. Boise Bucco says:

    It feels good to say that the Bucs will be in good shape once they get into the bullpen. Now, if they can knock Westbrook out, they’ll REALLY be in good shape!

  85. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Odd…..Neil Walker gets pulled in the double switch….don’t quite understand that move, but oh well. The UNDER sneaks out a victory. Thanks to everyone who played.

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  86. twentytwo22 says:

    I wish Bedard would get the sign and throw the ball. He can’t pitch any worse than he has been.

  87. DemonDachshund says:

    I think Clint just snuck back above the Barmes line.

  88. Sutton not helped out in that AB in the fact that strike 1 should have been ball 1. How about some hustle from Barmes on that bunt!

  89. dcpfjr says:

    I’ll explain the move, Playoffs. Hurdle participates under an alias and has the under and he saw your prize list. LOL

  90. JRay3 says:

    Lead off walk for Alvarez, bunt hit by Barmes (WOW) and chance here to tie game back up!

    @ Roberto – Shocked that Clint took out Walker in the double switch, with Cutch out he was maybe our best hitter in the lineup.

    As for Tabata I agree with your assessment that his play has improved and he looks to be giving much better effort, but boy does he need to produce at times in key situations, he has not thus far.

  91. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    My issues with Tabata are of the fundamental nature. You can’t have a guy batting 1st or second who isn’t consistent. Only 11 RBI’s in 250 at bats just doesn’t cut it for me. Add to that only 17 walks on the year, 8 times caught stealing, and a .189 average with Runners In Scoring Position. For a contending team to move forward with those numbers would be silly. I know you are going to disagree with me, but you can’t ignore those stats.

  92. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    HAHAHAHA!! Comment of the day!!

  93. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Well Resop did his job, time for the bats to come alive in the last 3 innings.

  94. JRay3 says:

    Presley with lead off hit to left….his second hit of the day. Need that from top spot in the order. Now let’s get him in off this weak Cardinals pen!

  95. JRay3 says:

    Well after seeing that I now wish they would have had Tabata bunt.

  96. Take advantage now of their error!!!

  97. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    And that is why Tabata can’t be anywhere near the top of this lineup going forward. Absolutely 100% inexcusable. I find it hard to believe at this point that Starling Marte would not be a better option in the second half of this year.

  98. DemonDachshund says:

    I hate to say it, but I wonder if Walker got hurt somehow. No idea why you’d double switch your cleanup hitter.

  99. SlackBoss says:

    @ Demon – the ‘book’ cals for the double switch there – it’s only the 5th inning and you don’t want to ‘waste’ PH that early. What I don’t understand was not bunting Tabata. You only need one run to tie. #hurdled once again.

  100. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    When your superstar is out of the line-up, you look for others to step up and fill in for that player. Today, Tabata has twice had that chance. That chance to be that offensive leader. The chance to be the big bat in the line-up. That chance to show that he belongs in the line-up every day.

    Yet what have we seen today?

    One single
    One caught stealing
    One costly ground-out with a runner on third
    One double play to kill the beginning of late inning

    Zero RBI’s
    Zero timely hits

    Going forward, something has got to give.

  101. Forbes Field Bob says:

    Lots of great things from Bucs….coming down from Erie Friday for 9th game….but Tabata and his 11 rbi’s needs to go to minors….and the kids from Indianapolis need to replace Correa and/or Bedard….with Marte to replace Tabata……final pieces of puzzle.

  102. dcpfjr says:

    OK, time for the B-team to pull out the sweep of the Red-birds.

  103. JRay3 says:

    On a 0-2 pitch, Alvarez with base hit back up the middle to lead things off! Let’s Go Bucs!

  104. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    …and now Alvarez is hurt…..lovely

  105. With that hit the UNDER wins for line #2 from Friday with 4 hits by Pedro and him having to leave the game probably due to a cramp..

  106. JRay3 says:

    Infield hit for Sutton, boy has he been a welcome addition…and the Bucs have first two runners on!

    Worried that our guys are dropping like flies, really hope these injuries to Cutch, Alvarez and Barajas are not serious.

  107. dcpfjr says:

    Look at the bright side, Playoffs. A few weeks ago no one would have complained after an injury to Pedro.

  108. JRay3 says:

    And we have a Fryer sighting as he is the PR for Alvarez. Successful sacrifice by Barmes to move runners in scoring position. Credit where credit is due he has had a nice series.

    Have to punch these runners across.

  109. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Brutal at-bat from the fort there. Up to J-Hay now!!

  110. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Very very true.

  111. RobertoForever says:


    No doubt that Tabata has regressed this year. None of those stats for the season so far is acceptable. But his trend IS improving. Any stats on RISP this last week or so, since Clint said Tabata might go to Triple-A?

    Also, who is his replacement? AP? Are his numbers much better? My only point is that I think Tabata numbers point to improvement.

  112. JRay3 says:

    Two areas the team needs to show improvement on in the second half of the season:

    1- Getting runners in from third with less than two outs.

    2- Throwing runners our attempting to steal.

    This team does a lot of things well, but have to do better in those two areas especially in a pennant race.

  113. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Two terrible at-bats with runners on by McKenry and Harrison. This game is officially frustrating.

  114. JRay3 says:

    The team has battled today, but boy have we had some chances the past couple of innings to tie this game up or even regain the lead and have squandered them.

  115. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    While I agree with you that his numbers are improving, today has been a glaring example of what is missing. Further down in the line-up is what may better serve him. But having him batting 1st or 2nd is not working.

  116. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Here are the newly updated totals. Congrats to JRay3 for retaking the lead. Nice little logjam near the top. Thanks to everyone who played this weekend. See you tomorrow.

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  117. JRay3 says:

    Do we have some 9th inning heroics in us today? At stake- a chance to win a fifth straight game for the first time since Sept. ’10, a chance to sweep the Cardinals in STL for first time since ’91 and a chance to go eight above .500.


  118. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Frustrating, frustrating game. I’ll take the 2 out of 3. Time to head home and finish strong before the break.

  119. Nobody to blame but themselves today. At least they took the series again. Let’s go home and beat up on the Stros and Giants before the break.

  120. dcpfjr says:

    Hey, 4 and 3 against the Phillies and Cardinals on the road? I’ll take it.

  121. JRay3 says:

    Tough loss today. Bedard has to give this team a little more in his starts. Had our chances just did not cash in, but all in all to compete like this and take 2 out of 3 from the Cardinals on the road is nothing to be disappointed with.

    Let’s just hope we get healthy as we head back home to Pittsburgh. A great opportunity awaits with a four game set against the struggling Astros and we get to throw J-Mac and AJ right out the gates in that series. Finish up the 7 game home stand with the Giants and a welcome four day break for the club for All-Star break.

    Giants up one on the Reds early, pulling for former Pirate Vogelsong.

  122. twentytwo22 says:

    I would sign for a 5-2 homestand and +9 at the break. 4 starts from Burnett and McDonald. If they battle Houston like they battled St. Louis a sweep is possible. Could be a HUGE finish to the first half. :)

  123. twentytwo22 says:

    I’m gonna say it, time to put the hammer down and seize the lead in the division. They battled on the road in the heat for 7 games. Coming home and facing Houston isn’t time to take it easy. This series will challenge them mentally more than physically.

  124. RobertoForever says:

    Considering that the MVP of the league was not playing today, I thought the team battled pretty well, but came up a little bit short. Scoring 4 runs with no Cutch is nothing to sneeze at. The pitching of Bedard today bears the brunt of this loss.

    Time now for the snubbed All-Stars to start a new winning streak at home. The Pirates 7-0 record when I am rooting for the Bucs at PNC will be at risk tomorrow, but I think the cowbell and the great pitching of J-Mac will carry the night!


  125. likeabugonarug says:

    And very nice of the Giants to pull one out today. Now we head home to face the ‘Stros for 4 and the Reds head to LA for 3. This is the time to make some hay!

    Am happy with the 4-3. What I was hoping for when the trip started. And the fact that they didn’t let that first game against the Phils get to them I believe shows they are growing up.

  126. RobertoForever says:

    Giants almost give it away in the top of the 9th as the closer loads the bases and gives up a tying run, before getting 3 outs. Giants score a walk-off in the bottom of the 9th.

    Pirates will be in possession of the 2nd wildcard and 0.5 games back of the 1st wild card, after one of the two (Dodgers vs Mets) lose tonight. Pirates still 1 game back of the Reds in the Central.

  127. Mike Shigley says:

    Some good news. Luis Heredia pitched another five shutout innings tonight, allowing three hits and no walks (but making an error), striking out three. State College gave him no support, and it is scoreless in the ninth. Also, Starling Marte has upped his average to .287, with his 9th homerun and his 48th and 49th RBIs.

  128. bob hasis says:

    Just looked at the starters for the All-Star Game, and in my opinion, on paper we are outclassed.

    Also just noted that Jordan Staal, just signed a 10-year contract for 60 million – the exact same contract he turned down from Shero. That folks is a slap in the Penguin face!

  129. Officer Mancuso says:

    It’s a shame that A.J. and. J Mac won’t be recognized as All Stars this year. Really a shame, in each case, for different reasons. Hopefully both are feeling the love from the core fan base. They both rock. A World Series victory would be sweet vindication. Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself and my team here, but I can imagine it. GO BUCS!

  130. The Gunner says:

    The Bucs had a great weekend in St. Louis. Too bad Bedard couldn’t come thru and hold down the Cards today. Looks like Joggin” Joe Tabata is starting to improve, too.

    I was watching the Dodgers-Mets game where Dee Gordon, the LA shortstop was having an awful game defensively. The one announcer, I think it was Orel Hershiser, mentioned that the Dodgers are desperately looking for a shortstop. Could this be an opportunity for NH to get out from under that lousy contract he gave to $10 million man Barmes? Do the Dodgers have a bat that might be a fit for corner outfield needs? Between Jay Hay, Sutton, and maybe Mercer, I think the Bucs would be able to cover SS the rest of the way.

    Any thoughts from any of you posters on this?

  131. likeabugonarug says:

    @bob – why is that a slap in the Pens face? He may have accepted a shorter contract from the Pens, but we’ll never know.

    Jordan had a goal for his career, and that was to play with his brother. And I’m sure he also wanted to move up in importance, first 2 lines, on the team he played. A 10 year contract with the Pens would’ve made playing with Eric difficult unless Eric came to the Pens at some point. And Jordan probably would not have moved up unless Sid or Gino gets hurt again.

    Some players have different life objectives than us fans would like, especially if the player is very good for our team. And this was Jordan’s whether we like it or not. Sometimes it is about more than money. Sid wants to win cups here and takes a lower cap hit to help that happen. Jordan wants to play with Eric and hopefully win a cup in Carolina. And is willing to take what he got to make that happen.

    Of course, if Eric should happen to leave in a couple years, wonder what Jordan will be thinking then?

  132. likeabugonarug says:

    @Gunner – I don’t think you are going to find a bat from the Dodgers, especially with the players they are missing now and the fact they are trying to add C-Lee. And I doubt they would give up a really good bat for Barmes, especially if they hear the Pirates fans and their opinions of Barmes.

  133. bob hasis says:

    Now bug, he turned down the one offer from the Pens, which was in Shero’s – and everyone’s mind very substantial, then accepts that from another team.

    I shouldn’t have to explain the psychology of that to you – do I?

    We don’t need to imagine anything like a short-term deal when we have an undeniable fact.

    You may view it however you choose.

  134. Jandy says:

    bob, my friend, Jordan Staal was simply tired of being third fiddle. He wanted to play on a team with his bro, but also, not to play in the shadow of two of the best players in the world. I can’t fault him for that.

  135. bob hasis says:


    I’m aware of his status when with the Pens. My comment though focused simply on the perception that he turned us down for that money.

    And wouldn’t it have been refreshing for him to admit he was seeking greater opportunity away from Sid and Geno.

    You and I for certain agree on what he did for us that never got mentioned. He was making a great reputation, just in a different way than S & G. He also could have said he WANTED to team up with his brother. I think that would have softened the blow, and if we sign Parise today, all will be OK again.

  136. Jandy says:

    bob I hear Parise has it narrowed down to 2 teams: Minnesota (hometown) and the Pens, I’m biting my nails!!!!

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