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Wakeup Call: Pirates’ roaring ratings

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Brief and to the Point …

>> The Home Run Derby is … um, hang on … uh … Zzzzzzzzzzzzz …

>> The Pirates’ last game before the break, the 13-2 rout of the Giants on Sunday, was the highest-rated broadcast for the team in the history of Root Sports, with more than 300,000 households tuning in.

For perspective, the Penguins’ average households over the past regular season was 101,000. And the Penguins’ local ratings were better than that of any NHL or NBA team.

This one Pirates game tripled that.

Now, before anyone gets carried away, I’m comparing one game to an average. I haven’t seen the Pirates’ average for the season. I also should point out, for anyone idly curious, that neither of these figures dips a toe into the ocean that is the Steelers’ astounding ratings.

But it’s still a sign that baseball is doing quite well here.

>> You’d think it might be a sign to our monopolostic national sports outlet at some point, too. The Pirates’ local ratings of late have been — in terms of percentage viewing — No. 1 in the majors. Which shouldn’t surprise anyone given how the other teams do.

Instead, Andrew McCutchen’s first round was relegated to side-screen viewing while Texas’ Josh Hamilton was being interviewed. This happened with a select few others. I saw that. And ESPN has done other things related to the Pirates of late. I’ve heard about those second-hand. But this moment was prime time. This was a moment when anyone outside Bristol city limits had to have realized Pittsburghers would be locked in.

And nothing.

>> This is to say nothing of the abysmal broadcast as a whole, one of the most self-absorbed productions you’ll ever see. Yes, even beyond Chris Berman standing at home plate for the intro, egging on different parts of the crowd like he was the lead singer for Foghat while the flashing blue signs behind him blared: “WELCOME CHRIS BERMAN!”

Somebody, somewhere, please start a rival network. It’s still a free-enterprise economic system. It’s not against the law, and Big Brother won’t come after you.

National sports! You’d think someone else would try!

>> The McCutchen travel non-story is one of those that will be repeated probably for years without a shred of truth to it. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, these were my efforts to share facts yesterday.

>> The Penguins open rookie development camp today at Consol, details of which are found here. I’ll be up there, as well. Few things rarer in sports than a chance to see hockey prospects in person, as they get scattered all over the globe during the season. The public can only get in Saturday for the camp-ending scrimmage. It’s free.

Comments

  1. Reading says:

    It never even occurred to me that they would, for all intents and purposes, ignore Cutch’s time in the spotlight until they similarly short-shrifted C. Gonzalez a few batters before. But then again, whenever the Steelers win a Super Bowl, it’s because of the refs. (see post-game show following Super Bowl XL). So, I guess I should not have been surprised.

  2. JohninOshkosh says:

    Foghat..the perfect reference.

    DK: Slow ride, brother.

  3. Baywatch says:

    DK, I posted to my FB friends, how juxtaposing it was that ESPN did that nice intro to the program, showing the greatest home runs off all time, captured on film (the only one I would have excluded would have been the record-breaking Bonds one where he drops his bat and raises his hands) … then the break to the god-awful Berman! My wife and I both about gagged. It’s not just Berman, but the NETWORK made the decision to mike him up to the whole stadium crowd! How utterly tacky!

    My only other observation is that, for all we know and understand about Sports Hatred 101, wouldn’t it have been refreshing if when the KC folks started mercilessly booing Robinson Canoe during his term, SOMEBODY with the Royals would have stepped to the PA system and said: “We certainly appreciate your passion but we would appreciate it if you would treat the players with respect.”

  4. Chico says:

    I just hope Cutch or Hanrahan gives the Pirate fans a Zoltan “Z” at some point. It will mean a lot because no one else will get it.

  5. Mike C. says:

    Berman is a relic of the 70-80s when espn was starting up.
    time to put him out to pasture.
    Stuart Scott and Mike Hill are also too annoying I change the channel when they come on.
    Buccigross is one of the few espn faces I enjoy
    and though many ppl understandably hate him, I am a disciple of Keith Law. Just learned a lot listening to his podcasts.

    If anyone knows, I’m curious to hear how Allie looks at the plate so far.
    from what I read he power seems to be there, and the walks are a pleasant surprise.
    How would a scout rate his potential so far for someone who hasn’t hit in a few years?
    too small a sample to gauge anything yet?

  6. JRay3 says:

    At one time ESPN did get it and covered sports and the sports dictated their stories.

    Today, however, they are the media machine dictating the stories we are to receive. Their influence has been felt in collegiate sports just look at conference realignment and gamedays now on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday for football.

    They decide what teams should be “relevant” and have website syndicates for New York, Chicago, Dallas and LA…I would like to ask them what about the sports fan in the other 30 plus cities that host professional sports?

    The numbers you refer to @ DK show the amount of interest this Pirates team has and I am quite positive it would translate Nationally as well as many people I know out here in AZ bring up the Pirates to me knowing how closely I follow them and talk about the team.

    The Pirates are a first place team and have been shown on ESPN all of ZERO times this year, but the fourth place Red Sox have been shown too many times to count. The last place Phillies and Cubs have been on multiple times, to that there can be no rational explanation.

  7. JRay3 says:

    @ DK – and too funny on your thought of another National Sports outlet starting, since life took me west some eight years ago I have seen first hand how west coast sport fans can cite east coast bias as those teams struggle to get National coverage.

    i have stated someone should start a WSPN that would give balanced coverage across all time zones and not focus just on New York, Boston and the rest of the northeast corridor.

    There is more than just the NFC East in pro football, and the Yankees / RedSox in baseball and you think someone somewhere could capitalize on that.

  8. JRay3 says:

    @ DK – Thanks for digging to present the facts regarding Cutch’s travel.

    I agree that it is such a non-story but in today’s world of social media I wish Cutch had not made the remark he did on his Twitter handle.

    His choice of words made it appear as it could be a story and that the Pirates were somehow being cheap by comparing them to the Giants. So of course most fans would immediately latch onto that and use it as another quick way to find fault or make a dig at the organization.

    Fortunately you put in the time and were able dispel that notion and provide an accurate account of the events something limited characters on the original tweet could not do. Thanks.

  9. Pig Legs Robinson says:

    Just another bunch of things I don’t miss at all since I canceled my comcast cable tv last year. All I need is my radio for the Bucs and the Internet to watch highlight clips if I am so inclined. I don’t even need the highlight clips. I grew up listening to the Pirates on the radio, and I’ll always be content with that.

    Thanks DK for trying to point out the fact that Upton is being offered for a very good reason. I side with your first reason from yesterday’s column. I would not mortgage the future for Justin Upton. He may have started out very good, but I don’t believe he will sustain it. All I need to do is look at his brother who did the same thing. Give me a bona fide winner like Shane Victorino any day and for far less in exchange.

  10. chris50_50 says:

    DK, my only issue with the McCutchen travel non-story is that you live in an alternate universe where United is considered a better airline than Southwest :-) They may not have “first class”, but I’ll take the airline with outstanding customer service, easy boarding policies, decent leg room, and a penchant for not charging their customers at every turn.

    DK: I can’t speak or write about Southwest without getting profane, and this is a family newspaper, so I’ll just kind of stop there.

  11. Boise Bucco says:

    So by highest-rated in Root Sports history, does that mean strictly Root Sports, or does that count Fox Sports Pittsburgh and KBL too?

    DK: My understanding is that it counts all of them. One company.

  12. Boise Bucco says:

    Sweet! KBL4life!

  13. smoky burgess says:

    never even watch espn anymore.
    MLB channel is on all the time

  14. aglebagel says:

    @Dejan- This blog post isn’t doing much to get you on Around the Horn.

    At least we’re lucky to have MLB Network now.

    I’ve never had a problem with baseball guys like Kurkjian or Olney on the Worldwide Leader, but the former players on their shows often just have no idea what they’re talking about outside of a few teams (you all know which ones). I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen one of the players on BBTN have an impromptu question thrown at them about the Bucs only to have them endlessly stammer about nothing or give an answer that makes it clear they haven’t been paying attention at all.

    There is a clear difference in how the Pirates are treated on MLB Network. Whereas some of those Baseball Tonight analysts make it clear that they have a part-time gig covering baseball, the guys at MLB Network seem like they watch baseball 24/7. They’ll even throw around the names of our prospects! And while it’s been tough to avoid talking about the losing recent history, they’ve at least always talked about it knowledgeably.

    I promise I’m not on their payroll, nor is anyone I know, but tonight’s ESPN debacle just reminded me how grateful I am to have a decent alternative now. At least for baseball, which is what I really need it for.

    DK: I’m certain that OTL is not a goal. I’ve done other ESPN stuff, but neither that nor anything on the outside, locally, nationally or in Manitoba, is anything I’ve sought out.

  15. Skip says:

    I’m not so sure McCutchen’s travel complaints that he felt he needed to broadcast on Twitter are a non-issue. Even if he just simply confused coach with commercial, he’s still complaining about something publicly that he should either keep to himself, or privately take up with management. It’s just not good form.

    He just signed a guaranteed multi-million dollar contract and what, he wants people to feel sorry for him that he has to fly commercial? Please. (I do wonder why Mr Nutting didn’t arrange for a private flight for both McCutchen and Hanrahan) Another example of regrettable use of Twitter by an athlete.

    I can only hope that my interpretation of this episode is completely mistaken.

  16. Boise Bucco says:

    Am I the only person who’s genuinely happy for Parise and Suter signing with Minnesota? When I think about it, they’re both originally from Minnesota, and now they have a chance to go home and play for their home team in front of home fans. Who wouldn’t want that!? If Western PA had home-grown superstars like that, we would expect them to want to play for the Pens, it would only be natural. After seeing pics of their news conference, I just can not get upset that they signed with Minnesota–I wish them both the best of luck.

  17. DarkAudit says:

    I’ve got a dollar that says the lead story of the 7am hour on the Mike And Mike show on the Worldwide Leader will be the NBA. Again. Just has it has been since the actual season ended.

    Guys, it’s just men in suits shuffling papers at other men in suits. No one is paying to see that.

  18. aglebagel says:

    @DarkAudit-

    Thank you. That has actually been one of my biggest reasons for “leaving” ESPN this summer. It’s baseball season, and all I’ve heard about for the past two weeks is NBA free agency. And I’m even one of the ones here who watches the NBA! Ridiculous.

  19. aglebagel says:

    We need an ESPN rant day. It would be fun.

  20. Israel P says:

    So when Dejan starts his own national sports TV network, I guess he won’t hire Chris Berman.

  21. John Lease says:

    Berman makes it unwatchable. Frankly, watching homer-batting practise is unwatchable, but he makes it ten times worse.

    I saw Frank Thomas take BP years ago in Baltimore. It was the most impressive display since I’d seen Willie Stargell in Philadelphia years ago. But it is just BP. Even pitchers homer in that.

  22. Dave Clark, current Astro’s third base coach, played for the bucs in the 90″s. Batting practice was awesome to watch as he launch many into the upper deck of 3 Rivers stadium. He was worth coming early for.

  23. Jandy says:

    DK, I’d love to hear your thoughts on Kuhnhackl. I’ve read a good bit about him. 6’2 RW, something the Pens could use.

  24. JUCOFan says:

    I wonder where Robinson Diaz was watching Joeybats launch homers last night?

    (Sorry, couldn’t resist)

  25. JAL says:

    JAL’s We Didn’t Start Satire Morning Links

    GENERAL DAILY UPDATED BASEBALL SITES

    1- MLB Transactions

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/pittsburgh_pirates/

    3 Go Buccos- Pirate News (from external sources)

    http://gobuccos.com/pittsburgh-pirate-news/

    4 Pirates Prospects Draft Pick Signing Tracker

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012draft

    PIRATE BLOGS

    5—Pirates Prospects

    Hurdle and Alvarez Share a Bond

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/hurdle-and-alvarez-share-a-bond.html

    Prospect Watch: Robbie Grossman and Stetson Allie Homer

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/prospect-watch-robbie-grossman-and-stetson-allie-homer.html

    One Day FREE Fantasy Contest – $350 in cash prizes

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2012/07/one-day-free-fantasy-contest-350-in-cash-prizes.html

    6 Bucs Dugout

    Could Gerrit Cole Help Pirates Rotation This Year?

    http://www.bucsdugout.com/2012/7/9/3146464/could-gerrit-cole-help-pirates-rotation-this-year

    7 Rumbunter

    In-House Options vs. Trade Options for the Pirates

    http://rumbunter.com/2012/07/09/in-house-options-vs-trade-options-for-the-pirates/

    8 McEffect

    Monday 7/9 Minor League Roundup

    http://www.mceffect.com/2012/07/monday-79-minor-league-roundup.html

    9 The Green Weenie

    Let The Boras Games Begin…

    http://oldbucs.blogspot.com/2012/07/let-boras-games-begin.html

    10 Hyzdu Headquarters

    Giving It the Old College Try, Again?

    http://hyzduhq.blogspot.com/2012/07/giving-it-old-college-try-again.html

    11 WHY GAVS

    Today is Andrew McCutchen Day

    http://whygavs.com/pittsburgh-pirates/july-2012/today-is-andrew-mccutchen-day.html

  26. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    12 CBS Sports

    The unbelievable, and still underrated, Andrew McCutchen

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/19544146/the-unbelievable-and-still-underrated-andrew-mccutchen

    13 Washington Observer Reporter

    Why not Pirates?

    http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/lolley11/07-10-2012-Lolley-column

    14 Sporting News

    National League first-half review

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2012-07-09/mlb-all-star-game-2012-national-league-nl-first-half-review

    15 Jackson Sun

    Jackson’s Drew Sutton helping Pittsburgh Pirates contend

    http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20120710/SPORTS/307100015/Jackson-s-Drew-Sutton-helping-Pittsburgh-Pirates-contend?odyssey=nav%7Chead

    16 Fox Sports

    Rounding Third: Top stories of the first half

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/07/09/rounding-third-top-stories-first-half/

    17 Grantland

    The 30, Week 14: Fear the Buccos

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8142881/after-two-decades-futility-pirates-putting-league-notice

    SPORTS WEBSITES

    18 PBC Site

    Though over quickly, Derby special to McCutchen

    http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120709&content_id=34785660&vkey=news_pit&c_id=pit

    All-Stars McCutchen, Hanrahan eye World Series

    http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120709&content_id=34771052&vkey=news_pit&c_id=pit

    19 Fangraphs

    What Greinke or Hamels Would Yield in a Trade

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-greinke-or-hamels-would-yield-in-a-trade/

    20 Metro News

    Can the Pirates Stay in the Race This Time Around?

    http://www.wvmetronews.com/sports.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=53739&type=Kyle

  27. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    One Word Defines Kordell Stewart’s Legacy

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/7/9/3145720/steelers-kordell-stewart-legacy-Bill-Cowher

    Steelers Have Nearly Four Decades Fewer Combined Years Along Offensive Line Than Baltimore

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/7/9/3146307/steelers-have-nearly-four-decades-fewer-combined-years-along

    Remember the Wildcat? How Defenses are Prepare to Counter Today’s Offensive-Heavy NFL

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/7/9/3146330/nfl-passing-offense-defense-pass-rush-pittsburgh-steelers-mike-tomlin-dick-lebeau

    22 Steelers Depot

    - 2012 Pittsburgh Steelers Training Camp Roster Battles: Wide Receivers

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/07/2012-pittsburgh-steelers-training-camp-roster-battles-wide-receivers/

    23 Steelers Gab

    Steelers and Ravens Voted as the NFL’s Best Rivalry

    http://www.steelersgab.com/2012/07/09/steelers-and-ravens-voted-as-the-nfls-best-rivalry/

    24 Nice Pick Cower

    Steelers MMQB: NFL Offseason News

    http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/07/09/steelers-mmqb-nfl-offseason-news-10/

    Pitt Blogs

    25 Pitt Blather

    Clearing out Some ACC/Expansiopocolypse Materials

    http://www.pittblather.com/2012/07/09/clearing-out-some-accexpansiopocolypse-materials/

    26 Cardiac Hill

    Even More Accolades For Rushel Shell

    http://www.cardiachill.com/2012/7/9/3145303/Pitt-football-recruiting-rushel-shell-WPIAL-pittsburgh-Panthers-Hopewell-paul-chryst-tino-sunseri

    WVU Blogs

    27 Metro News

    Austin, Smith To Maxwell Watch List

    http://www.wvmetronews.com/wvu.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=53737

    28 WV Illustrated

    Jenkins Relishes Healthy Summer Workouts with WVU

    http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/18974303/jenkins-relishes-healthy-summer-workouts-with-wvu

    Soccer(football)

    29 Sky Sports

    New City deal for Mancini

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7884848/Mancini-signs-new-City-deal

    30 Daily Telegraph

    QPR take Park from Man United

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/soccer/qpr-take-park-from-man-united/story-fndb5nmd-1226422168846

    31 World Soccer Daily

    10 Ten stories you need to read, July 9th, 2012

    http://www.worldsoccer.com/247/world-soccer-daily-10-stories-you-need-to-read-9th-july-2012

    PENGUIN BLOGS

    32 Pensburgh

    The obligatory Alex Semin question…Should the Pens look into the the winger?

    http://www.pensburgh.com/2012/7/9/3146618/the-obligatory-alex-semin-question-should-the-pens-look-into-the-the

  28. JAL says:

    We Didn’t Start Satire, Capitol Steps, 2011. Since forming in the 1980s the Capitol Steps have been turning popular songs into political satire. This song is quick journey through their 30 years.

  29. Jandy says:

    JAL, your link #12 CBS Sports on McCutchen is…Voila`. Great read!

  30. bdubb says:

    I think Fox tried to compete with ESPN and failed. I know they tried to do the “Sportscenter” thing but no one watched. And don’t be fooled people. Any new network would come in with good intentions only to realize that Yankees/Red Sox would pay the bills a lot better than Pirates/Giants. Even MLB Network doesn’t miss a chance at that series.

    The HR Derby has been unwatchable for years now. I wonder what ESPN’s research shows on Chris Berman. I wonder if he still is in command because of his tenure? His calling of PGA golf is just the worst and his HR Derby stuff is tired. He annoys me so much I watch NFL Network on Sunday mornings.

  31. TJA says:

    Home runs are overrated as a whole. The Derby is just so lame. If someone on the Pirates hits a walk off…am I happy the Pirate won…sure, I’d be lying if I said not. That being said… overall give me a triple…or a double steal…or a hit and run or…

  32. RobertoForever says:

    I wish NBCSports would take a serious run against the mothership. I think they could make a dent. Really missing MLB and the IL.

  33. pants-n-at says:

    I only watch ESPN as needed. As far as Cutch’s tweet….just shut up and play ball! Most of your fans will never sniff 1st class so they can’t empathize. I think Hurdle is the type of guy who may bring him in and discuss it with him…..briefly, but he may mention it. They just don’t need the distraction.

  34. pants-n-at says:

    I liked Hurdle’s comment this weekend (this may not be exact): “There are 2 kinds of people in this world, those who are humble and those who are about to be.” I love it! This incident will probably humble Cutch real quick. The Pirates got a good thing going, don’t mess with it dude!

  35. JMB says:

    I’ll play devil’s advocate here.

    Who doesn’t like to complain about travel? Cutch complaining is a non-story.

    However, I know that I’m in the minority here with this thought, but Cutch gave the team a massive “hometown discount” with his contract. CarGo’s 7/$80mm should have been the starting point. The team will end up getting him for far less than he would have gotten on the open market ($30-$40mm less).

    So if he expected the team to get him a private plane for $35k, then I can’t fault him. Pro athletes live in a rarefied air when it comes to life, so they have different complaints than the rest of us.

    I actually don’t mind Berman as much as most of you, but I can’t stand Joe Buck. So we all have our chimeras.

  36. CWalton_67 says:

    DK, you completely nailed it with the “self-absorbed” description. Berman is no longer a sports reporter with any credibility, simply a sad caricature of his former self.

    Different subject: Interested in thoughts on possible signing of Shane Doan by the Pens? I think he’d be a perfect fit on this team. Anyone?

  37. Jandy says:

    CWalton, I’d love to have Doan, but I think he will stay in the West somwhere, perhaps Nashville.
    But we can dream…

  38. Naje says:

    @JMB….

    Please read the information about Cutch’s travel. MLB pays for the travel and he was flying first class to Minneapolis… just was bumped from there to KC because first class was overbooked. Lots of information about it and not sure you’ve seen it.

    It is a total non-issue.

  39. CWalton_67 says:

    I missed the Cutch tweet. Don’t think it is that big of a deal, though I will say this–If Cutch had ever sat in the back of an un-pressurized, C-130 with broken air conditioning, while wearing approximately 100 lbs of equipment and a parachute, with a nauseated brother paratrooper sitting beside him, he’d find very little to complain about in coach.

    I think athletes just need to be brought back to reality from time to time. They forget what it is like in the world. Perhaps a day spent in a sweltering HWMWV wearing a Kevlar vest would be good for some of them.

  40. CWalton_67 says:

    @Jandy–what makes you think Doan is staying in the West?

  41. BenderHeel says:

    @ Jandy: Doan allegedly prefers LA, Detroit, or the Pens. I’ve always liked him as a person and a player and think he’d work well with Crosby – a younger Bill Guerin type.

  42. NMR says:

    Man, CWalton, I can’t tell you how refreshing it was to read your comment after hearing JMB whine about how McCutchen ONLY got a $50m contract and thus is entitled to travel by private jet.

    Thank you for that reality check. Truly.

  43. Karen22 says:

    The only reason I watched the Derby last night was because of Cutch. Chris Berman has become a circus barker (well, I guess it IS a circus now), and talking over MLB’s first half MVP with Josh Hamilton was unconscionable. I’ll not watch another.

    Do you suppose Andrew will be ignored if he’s the All-Star Game MVP?? GO FOR IT, Cutch! (Gee, I sure hope he of the .362 BA has more than one at bat).

  44. BigDaddyHoss says:

    Chris Berman has been like this for years. Can’t stand him. He has so many different self-centered personas (ie, the Swami, Boomer, etc). And he really makes an ass of himself when predicting NFL games (consistently his pick percentage is below .500, what an expert!). Not to mention he continually enters video clips of himself in past years from NFL previews or post-games.

    As far as McCutchen’s travel arrangements, who cares if he few first class, coach, on the wing, or piloted the plane. Who really cares!

  45. NMR says:

    Am I the only one that is a bit tired of the Pens pursuing these top end mega free agents this offseason?

    The market has already been set. It’s almost certainly going to take a lot of money over a long time to get any of these guys.

    The Pens already have the two best players in the game. They do not need anymore $100m contracts. Unless there is another reversal of play in the NHL, the most talented teams DO NOT WIN.

    I’m not criticizing Shero, because I don’t know enough about the specific free agents that could be had in place of the Parises, Suters, and Doans of the world. It just seems odd to me that this is the direction the team seems to be headed.

  46. JMB says:

    I’ll clarify my point.

    @Naje — I read everything. My point was pretty clear. Please re-read my post.

    Matt Cain chartered his own private jet. But no one can say that he gave the Giants any sort of “hometown discount” on his extension. He is the highest paid RHP in MLB history.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7766104/san-francisco-giants-work-extension-matt-cain

    @NMR — Calling my post a “whine” is uncalled for. I just offered an alternate concept. If you don’t agree with someone, it doesn’t mean he is whining. Open your mind brother.

  47. D1J1 says:

    Berman should have been given a gold watch, $5 booklet of McDonald’s coupons, and a pat on the back then shown the door years ago. He should take Dick Vitale and his Pidgin English with him!

  48. Jandy says:

    CWalton,I’ve just read that Shane Doan prefers to stay closer to where he is now for family reasons. That’s not to say the right deal wouldn’t change his mind.

    Like I said, I’d love to have him. I think he’d be great for Sid.

  49. Lee says:

    I can’t take Berman so muted the sound, waiting until Cutch came to bat. So when it comes his turn I un-mute the TV to hear what I expect to be some gushing about Cutch and the Buccos, but instead hear Josh Hamilton interviewed. Thanks for nothing ESPN!

  50. BigDaddyHoss says:

    Lee,

    It is funny, I did the exact same thing with the mute button until Cutch came up! Then I was very disappointed, as you were.

  51. Naje says:

    JMB… what’s the deal with Cutch’s contract? He’s the same guy who hit .219 for the last 3 months of the 2011 season… were those numbers worth an extra $30M? You use CarGo’s contract as an example and that’s not a name that anyone was comparing regarding a contract that Cutch’s should be like. Regardless, his contract is a non issue, until someone starts complaining that the PBC underpaid him. Which, when he’s scorching hot is not fair to do.

    You take a tweet non-story and turn it into a contract non-story? I don’t get it.

  52. radio wave says:

    The behaviors exhibited at the Home Run Derby last night by the fans would be expected in Philly, not KC.
    The combination of a over-the-hill Chris Berman, and a been there-done that event needs some tweeking.
    On ABC News This Week” last Sunday, George Will was asked to evaluate the state of baseball at the All Star break.
    To paraphrase, he said people are mistaken in thinking the Golden era of baseball is in the past. He said now is the golden era. He noted that in the 1950′s, the Brooklyn dodgers drew an average of 13,000 per game. He said today’s MLB crowds average 30,000.
    So yes, from that standpoint this may be a golden era.
    But for quality of play, and athletic performance is this really the best we have ever had.
    I was talking to a friend yesterday who asked me if I was excited about tonight’s game. I said no. He pointed out that when we were kids, the All Star game meant seeing players like Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Kaline, Frank and Brooks Robinson, etc.
    It just doesn’t feel like this generation of stars in the long run will quite equal those stars.

  53. Oshkosh b’gosh,

    Yadier Yohe . . . . . . . good one!

    .

    Man, I’m already Jonesing for baseball!

    It seems, hearing the grumblings here already today, others are also. There seems to be an undercurrent of water gain and lower intestinal pain.

  54. JMB says:

    @Naje

    anyone –http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/pirates-lock-up-andrew-mccutchen/

    “I would have thought that McCutchen could have landed a deal more similar to the seven year, $80 million extension that Carlos Gonzalez got a year ago – it not only covered the same years of service time, but the same years in terms of age.”

  55. Naje says:

    Thanks, JMB… there’s one comparison… from? Haven’t seen another. Where was this uprising about CarGo=Cutch in the offseason?

    All we got thrown at us was Justin Upton… repeatedly.

  56. Naje says:

    Oh, JMB… I forgot Jay Bruce’s name as well.

    And way to dig up a blog post on the day (dated March 5) that Cutch’s contract was announced. So there was no CarGo comparison that I saw that actually came during Cutch’s negotiations.

  57. RELENTLESS_FORECHECK says:

    CWalton, Jandy:

    To take nothing from Shane Doan, I’d prefer the Pens make a serious play for Jarome Iginla. Granted, Iginla is under contract for one more season and would require trading assets to acquire him, but I think he’s a much better fit. He has proven chemistry with Crosby while playing for Team Canada, and is the type of hard-nosed, shooting winger that would be a great counterpoint to Crosby and Dupuis on the Pens first line.

    Calgary is intent on locking him up for an extension, but you have to wonder if Iginla is ready to give up any realistic chance at another Cup run. If you make Jay Feaster an attractive enough offer and get Jarome’s buy-in, it could be a good deal for both sides.

  58. NMR says:

    @JMB

    There are ways to go about presenting a dissenting opinion. “But, but, but Carlos got more!” isn’t one I would’ve chosen.

    By the way, that article you chose to site contains this little line:

    “Put simply, this is the accepted going rate for young outfielders with 2+ years of service who have flashed a good amount of potential.”

  59. Naje says:

    JMB…
    Here’s the rest of the blogger’s ipso-facto post… just their opinion… comes with very little authority other than a fantasy explanation about Cutch deserving what CarGo got. The “I would have thought…” and the “…probably the deal…” just doesn’t mean a thing to me. Especially from fangraphs and their purely speculative perspective that happened after the contract was signed. And remember, and this is pretty important, CarGo signed his contract before the new CBA was put into effect.

    “I would have thought that McCutchen could have landed a deal more similar to the seven year, $80 million extension that Carlos Gonzalez got a year ago – it not only covered the same years of service time, but the same years in terms of age. Gonzalez might have been coming off a more impressive offensive season, but he also had a spottier track record and and a less refined game overall. That’s probably the deal that McCutchen should have aimed for, rather than settling for a carbon copy of the Bruce/Upton deals.”

  60. CWalton_67 says:

    All of this business with the Cutch tweet is not worth the angst. It’s simply a matter of perspective. Unless you’ve walked a mile in someone’s shoes, you can’t know what things are like for them, and he grows older, he’ll understand that most do not live the life he does. Based on what we know of him, I’d be surprised if he doesn’t already regret that tweet, and I’m betting that over the course of his life, he’ll do some good for people who are less fortunate.

    @NMR–Agree on the Pens not needing additional superstar players, though I really do think Doan would be a good fit here.

    @Jandy–Would like to see a LARGE, rugged d-man signed as well, but those appear to be in short supply at the moment.

  61. JMB says:

    CarGo got more isn’t my dissenting opinion.

    Cutch gave the team a massive hometown discount is. I said that I am in the minority on this blog with that opinion, but it is my opinion.

    It also contains this little line directly after your quote: “However, the Pirates should be thrilled that they were able to negotiate the same deal with McCutchen as the D’Backs and Reds did with their young stars.”

  62. dickyp23 says:

    How can the Pens have a prospect camp scrimmage with only Dmen?

  63. Jandy says:

    CWalton, a d-man would be nice, but isn’t a necessity. I think we need a winger more. But that’s just my opinion.

    Relentless, I too would love Iginla. He and Sid had major chemistry in the Olympics. Doan would be a treat too. I guess we have to see what Shero can pull out of his hat.

  64. bob hasis says:

    About ESPN, Bob Ley is the only employee on air with any dignity, the others are self-indulgent clowns who make feeble attempts at cliche driven humor.

    My Godson is a tennis pro at the nearby country club to where their facility is located. They are all members, and usually he sees them daily.

    He has seen them all at one time or another, in a variety of stages of sobriety. They are the most suffocatingly arrogant, obnoxious, pains-in-the-butt you can envision. He has many of them for lessons, and if you were to hear him describe their lack of athleticism, you would howl.

    Enough said; if I go any further MY dignity will suffer.

  65. Jandy says:

    dicky, where’d you get that idea? There are I believe 34 players on the roster, and they cover all the positions.

  66. JohninOshkosh says:

    @Groat:

    Thanks, dude. I try.

    I miss baseball, too. Traditionally use the break to clean my basement. Now that MLB gives 4 days off to every team, I just might have to organize the pantry too.

    My wife just doesn’t know how good she’s got it.

  67. Milo Hamilton says:

    It’s quite the revelation that air travel in this country sucks. Who knew ?

  68. LuckyNKentucky says:

    I don’t know Shane Doan from a Doan’s Pill. I’ll leave that to Jandy, CW and the pucksperts. But, as far as baseball is concerned, I think the Bucs should stay with the old “if it ain’t broke……” addage and move forward now. Leave Marte alone and stay away from Upton, Quentin and the rest unless they can get a steal. They should kick the tires on Victorino, but let Jones, McGeehee and the others have their day–until they cool off. We don’t need no stinking trade deadline anyway. Plenty of good pitching help in Indy to replace Bedard. THIS IS OUR TIME!!

  69. aglebagel says:

    The one thing I will give Berman is that his introduction of Cutch at the beginning of the Derby was very nice.

    As far as McCutchen’s travel tweet? Whatever. If I thought I could take a private jet and had to fly commercial I’d be unhappy too. Now would I tweet about it? Well…

    @JMB-
    I don’t know that McCutchen gave the Bucs that much of a hometown discount. Yeah, his contract looks great for the Pirates at this point, but he would’ve had a hard time getting what CarGo got this past offseason. Gonzalez had already put up close to a triple crown season.

  70. diehard says:

    If ESPN were to actually play Slow Ride, they’d either talk over the bass solo or play the radio edit.

  71. aglebagel says:

    Wow, when you start a post and get sidetracked, it’s a good idea to refresh the page before finishing now. I hadn’t realized the CarGo conversation was already in full swing.

  72. buggee says:

    Foghat, “Fool for the City” Which is just a notch below Queen’s “Fat-Bottomed Girls” lol

  73. Jandy says:

    OshKoshB’Gosh, Yes, your wife sure is blessed!

    Lucky, quit playing humble, you’re learning about hockey, just as I’m learning about baseball.

  74. Jandy says:

    Dear Lord, another typo. YOUR wife, OshKosh, I don’t want one LOL!

  75. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yeah, let’s not talk about Cutch on his contract during a 3 month hot streak, let’s focus on his only 2 1/2 month cold streak in his 3+ years in the league. And that was in a year he still ended up with an .820 OPS, .364 OBP and 128 OPS+. That’s fair.

    Just trying to join the fray. You guys are being unfair to JMB, IMO. His basic point was Cutch gave a discount to stay, which he said he knew was a minority view. I think Cutch gave a discount, too, although I don’t think I would point to CarGo’s as a starting point. And the Pirates deserve credit, too, for being smart enough for ponying up. Would you rather have Cutch, Bruce or Upton or CarGo? I know who I would pick.

  76. Jandy says:

    hey, buggee, some good music there…Foghat, Queen, what’s next??? =)

  77. NMR says:

    @Milo

    Americans bring it on themselves. No trains, no competition.

    Why should airlines give a crap about improving service? What are people gonna do?

  78. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    Every person in the “free” world complains about traveling. Sorry, but anyone who would have a problem with McCutchen’s tweet is really stretching for something on which to hang their negativity. Get a life…

    Back to the real world…

    Saw a comment late yesterday about Denard Span possibly being available. I looked and, sure enough, ESPN lists him as a possible bat. I have to agree with the commenter yesterday. Span would be an ideal pickup for this team. He’s a lefty who is fast enough to play left, steals bases, and has a .357 career OBP. He also doesn’t strike out a bunch. And he’s younger than Victorino (perhaps worth signing for a couple years).

  79. JohninOshkosh says:

    I heard Chris Rock talk about comedy one time. He said stand up comics often start with very edgy material, then gain fame and fortune and their routines shift to mundane material about things that have become party of their daily lives: hotels and air travel.

    No different with ballplayers, I suppose. “What’s the deal with airline peanuts….”

  80. NMR says:

    Wait, I thought his point was that Cutch gave the Pirates a discount and thus deserves to be carted around on private jets?

  81. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    @Arriba. I want Cutch hitting 3rd and Cargo hitting 5th. Lol

  82. buggee says:

    See y’all? There’s a reason why I refer to that 4-letter-ho-mongering network as I do. Are you seeing the light? How do you think Chris Berman would do on “America’s Got Talent”? Personally I don’t think he’d even be invited.

    Who cares if that 4-letter-ho-mongering network doesn’t cover the Bucs. If you want to catch up on NBA trade rumors, go there. Anything Pittsburgh, hockey, relevant, go elsewhere. In my mind that network redefined the word “Stink”. (was gonna use “Suck” but this is a family newspaper…)

    Swing Cutch Swing

  83. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Bunch,

    Span would be a great pickup. Even better than Victorino, but would cost more. I’m feelin’ greedy with our propects, especially being 11 over .500 and one game up at the break. Cardinals and Reds have the sticks, but not our pitching on either team. Should be an interesting next few months.

  84. buggee says:

    Dio, “The Last in Line”, Skid Row’s “Monkey Business”, Marilyn Manson’s “The Beautiful People”, Disturbed, “Down with the Sickness”.. Outstanding workout tunez

  85. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    I’m all for standing pat if the Pirates can enlarge the +.500 cushion by 4 or 5 games prior to the trade deadline. It’s possible, given the schedule, that they will be 15-18 games over on July 30. At that point, why mess with a good thing? Sometimes, the best move is no move.

  86. JMB says:

    I’d like Span, but the Pirates had no interest in Bourn last year. Of course, Tabata was still being projected as a future star last July.

    Span is two yrs younger than Bourn.

    Bourn is a 4-5 fWAR over the last few years, and Span is 2-3 fWAR (with an outlier of 4.1 fWAR in his 2nd yr — 2009).

    Most experts felt that the Astros didnt get as much as they should have for Bourn, so what would Span cost?

  87. Jandy says:

    buggee, leave out the Manson, and you’re rockin’!

    I’m still liking Victorino for a Pirate…

  88. JMB says:

    Per Cot’s

    Span’s contract.

    5 years/$16.5M (2010-14), plus 2015 club option

    12:$3M, 13:$4.75M, 14:$6.5M, 15:$9M club option ($0.5M buyout)

  89. Patrick(RI) says:

    I would love to sit in on a conversation between Steve Blass and Dejan. Of course some sort of dictionary of the history of rock & roll would be required!

  90. buggee says:

    >>> Landing Span would be a great acquisition for this team. There’s going to be the inevitable slump, and guys like AJ, Cutch and people with non-stop motors are what helps bring slumps to a quick end.

    >>> Upton would be a pariah. Send him to ESPN

    >>> No need to get another arm. Indy is rife with quality starters; at least 3 of them, maybe 4. Nothing wrong with bringing them up for a test run to see who sticks.

    >>> Does it look like Bedard is nursing something. His delivery seems a little “off” to me, like he’s not hitting his front foot like he was at the start of the season. Balance? ACH! Never mind, I’m still stuck on swing-planes.

    >>> I’ll be at the prospect scrimmage Saturday after running the Cranberrry 5k. Thanks for the line-up link Dejan. Nice to put names with numbers.

    >>> As far as I can tell there doesn’t appear to be any prospects with a pointy head like LeeTang (FooTang)

  91. pants-n-at says:

    @ Diehard: LOL!

    @ Mr Fairweather fan. Not sure I get your point about the airline tweet. It didn;t sound like the tweet was so much against the airline industry as it was a dig at MLB or the PCB. That’s where the negativity started. I just don’t think it should’ve ever been put in a tweet in the first place. If you think I’m stretching for some negativity, you don’t know me. So be it.

  92. Better Days Coming says:

    Not sure what Dejan’s gripe is with SWA but if have to fly (and I fly a lot) and they’re an option I take them nine times out of ten. Great service and on tine without all the added fees. Plus a great rewards program.

    This was brought to you by Southwest Airlines. Feel free to move about the country.

    Now back to regular programming.

  93. Pete Selednik says:

    Dejan,

    Season ticket holder for 8 years here. Excited as anybody about this amazing dream season and planning to enjoy the ride.

    I wanted to relate to you something my family experienced Saturday afternoon. I was in PNC Park roughly 30 minutes before first pitch with my wife and 4 year old son. It was very hot and we were eating our lunch in one of the alcoves behind the main concourse because there were no tables available. Mainly we were just trying to keep cool. All of the sudden, out of nowhere, a man walked up to us. He put in my hands a brand new Andrew McCutchen jersey with the tags still on it, in a kids size. He told me he wanted my son to have it. He said that the jersey did not fit his son. We were so unbelievably blown away by this act of generosity. We thanked this man several times, before he turned and vanished into the crowds of the main concourse. Unfortunately, I didn’t even get this gentleman’s name. I just wanted to let you know about this random act of kindness, and that, in this town there are people that would do something like that for a stranger they don’t know.

    Thanks,

    Pete

  94. YinzerInExile says:

    Since I am still trying to wrap my head around how a stupid tweet became the largest grain of sand in Pittsburgh’s knickers since the Wieters non-signing I ask with all sincerity: am I the only person ON THE EARTH who assumed he was joking?

    I mean, for as generally down to earth as the guy seems to be in interviews–supported by various reports–why on earth would anyone instantaneously jump to any other conclusion? It’s not like the guy is plagued by stories of puppy kicking, waitress stiffing, and haughty demands.

    Pittsburgh needs to calm the eff down with their hardworking-blue-collar-we-don’t-suffer-grandiosity attitude, because now the whiners are just looking for transgressions.

  95. Evan says:

    If you have never complained while at an airport, you are lying. That’s as much part of travel protocol as pat downs, removing your shoes and $12 mini pizzas. I tweeted angrily about American Airlines twice last week.

    Thanks for investigating and putting the non issue down, DK.

  96. jdwfb55 says:

    NBC Sports Network

    I really feel they could compete with ESPN but does anybody how CNNSI did….exactly??

  97. Jandy says:

    re; Cutch’s tweet. I don’t tweet. I don’t fly. But I will say this:
    Cutch is human. Maybe he was tired. Maybe he had jock itch. Give the guy a break.

  98. NMR says:

    @Jandy

    I won’t speak for DK or everyone else, but this is more about FANS overreaction than Cutch’s.

    I don’t blame Cutch at all. What he said was harmless.

    Its fans using this as a NUTTINGSZ CHEAP! pulpit that is making it an issue.

    Thats the crux of the issue.

  99. cmat0829 says:

    DK:

    ON ESPN, they do have competition, in the form of NFL Network (compare the Draft coverages) and MLB Network, just not one other “all encompassing” national network. It is 2012, and with AT BAT and other aps and ways to access local broadcasts of games, I personally don’t give a rip if the Pirates are ever on Fox or ESPN…in fact I hate it because I can’t watch the Root broadcast which I enjoy much more.

    I used to LOVE ESPN and now rarely if ever watch it. It is a massively sucessful business but needs about 90% less “self-absorption”. I think they get it and have employed “ombudsmen” to impartially critique their broadcasts and to provide objective feedback but they seem to keep churning out annoying catchphrase talking-heads who become sickening to watch after about 90 seconds.

  100. Jandy says:

    NMR, well, yeah, OK. But their blindness in doing that is making Cutch look bad. SO maybe they should STHU? lol

  101. pants-n-at says:

    @ Jandy: Can do. This too shall pass.

  102. Milo Hamilton says:

    @buggee

    See ya at the scrimmage Saturday. I’ll just look for the guy in the Dio shirt. :)

  103. pants-n-at says:

    Cutch made himself look bad. JMO

  104. bob hasis says:

    Lucky@#69

    You sir, are emphatically correct.

  105. JohninOshkosh says:

    I will always appreciate what ESPN did to pioneer expansive sports coverage. Today’s media options, noted by cmat0829 above, are direct consequences from ESPN’s growth and financial success.

    When I was a boy, NCAA schools were limited to six television appearances over a two year period on one network! If not a fan of Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame, you were out of luck. When I was in my teens, ESPN started covering the NCAA tournament’s early rounds. I would stay up until the wee hours. And, for this Midwestern kid, that was my first exposure to Big East basketball.

    They were innovators that became the paradigm that now is being shifted with the new media.

  106. NMR says:

    @Jandy

    Couldn’t agree more.

  107. Black n Gold (not yellow) says:

    Agreed NMR about the Cutch tweet. No one should care.

    I feel the same way about Appel. I don’t care what his “ceiling” may be. He had one legit year in college and was lit up in the CWS. Excuse me if I’m cool with two first rounders next year in a much better draft class. I’m not a MLB coach but I have coached for about 15 years and the first thing I noticed is an inconsistent arm angle and, by default, release point. When he drops his angle then the ball stays up and he can get HAMMERED. When his arm gets vertical, he throws everything in the dirt. I know that I’m not a MLB scout or coach but I’m just not that impressed.

  108. buggee says:

    @ Milo: I’ll have it on upside down in reference to Dio’s darker persuasions

    Post #95: “Waitress stiffing”. Is that what they’re calling IT now? Those dayummed kids…

  109. buggee says:

    I still laugh at this lyric (see if y’all can place the song/band): “Finished with my woman cuz she couldn’t help me with my mind.” Too funneh

  110. DemonDachshund says:

    MLB rules stipulate what the Pirates are allowed to pay Appel. If Appel chooses not to sign with the Bucs at this point, that’s not the team’s fault. He certainly isn’t worth their pick next year, which they would forfeit to pay him more. They drafted what they felt was the best talent available, so I can’t fault them on making that pick.

    Sometimes, you make the right choices, and they don’t work out.

  111. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Any sports figure should be banned from Twitter. It’s too easy to be misinterpreted in 140 characters or whatever. Speaking of characters, Pete’s entry, #94 is a great one. Friends, there are more people like that out there than we think.

  112. pants-n-at says:

    @Lucky #112. Agree!

  113. Curt says:

    Thought the K.C. fans were too hard on Robinson Cano. It seemed rather classless.
    I mean who would pick Billy Butler if we were given the choice?

    I could care less about ESPN. Thankfully we have the NFL Network and the MLB Network to steal their thunder. I love the MLB Network. They do a great job!

  114. Black n Gold (not yellow) says:

    On the Denard Span idea, I found this on MLB Trade Rumors from a couple weeks ago.

    “The Twins are believed to be more willing to trade Denard Span than Josh Willingham, writes John Heyman. They do not appear to be actively engaged in talks yet, but they would seek a young starting pitcher in return for Span.”

    It doesn’t seem that they’re asking much. One of our AAA guys would be expendable in my opinion.

  115. DemonDachshund says:

    Interesting from the blog article linked by JMB… The author lists the number one reason to move Upton is that the Dbacks have a number of guys ready to replace him in the OF in their minor league system.

    That would imply to me that Marte will likely not be a viable trade candidate for them, which would also imply that the trade isn’t likely to happen. I don’t see the Bucs moving Cole, and Taillon isn’t close enough to the majors to interest them. Just doesn’t seem like a fit, IF his analysis is accurate.

  116. Jandy says:

    Lucky, agreed with you on the nice, good-hearted people…there are many out there, I’ve run into them.
    To Pete Selednik, thanks for sharing :)

  117. JohninOshkosh says:

    @buggee

    Ozzy for President.

    You are a headbanger, my friend.

    Don’t bite any bats.

  118. cmat0829 says:

    RE: CUTCH….

    1) It’s a free country and people can say or tweet or blog whatever they want. Cutch voiced pretty normal vents on that format.

    2) It’s a free country and people can react to what people tweet or blog or say however they want.

    3) I think any athlete needs to think twice about what they are tweeting because in that format it is impossible to detect sarcasm, joking, or any other context … so what is commnicated can vary from what is intended.

    Personally I don’t think Cutch really meant to deride the Pirates for being cheap or make any other broad statement other than griping during a long travel process. That said, it was better off unsaid.

    No need to Skip Bayless- Steven A Smith this topic death….

  119. Jandy says:

    buggee isn’t that Black Sabbath???

  120. Jandy says:

    Eh OshKosh is quick!

  121. Jandy says:

    pants-n-at, hope I didn’t sound harsh, didn’t mean to…

  122. LuckyNKentucky says:

    BnG, not Y,

    I still maintain the greed for our propects, but “my hypocricy knows no bounds” per Doc Holladay, especially when I imagine an outfield of Span, Cutch and Marte, left to right. The ball would have to be hit high or on a line to hit the ground with those 3 out there. One pitcher might not be bad to let go, just no more than 1 (greed resurfaces).

  123. JohninOshkosh says:

    Dejan Kovacevik Blog:

    Come for the writing. Stay for the music.

    Wide spectrum of musical tastes here. I love it.

  124. Chuck H says:

    Whether or not the Pirates continue their hot pursuit of winning the Central title,I feel
    that they get little or no respect from either ESPN or MLB. While they have been in two or three televised games on MLB, the Yankees are on 3 and 4 times a week, and so have the Red Sox and Angels been on numerous times. It seems that money rules who is televised the most. I don’t like the Yankees for one reason or another, but it p—-es me off that they don’t have their names on their uniforms. GO BUCS!!

  125. SouthSideBucsFan says:

    BnG,

    The question is whether next year’s draft class is actually better than this year’s. Keith Law has been on record, this past week in fact, as saying that next year’s crop is actually weaker. He said Appel would again likely be among the top prospects in terms of talent, so he may have something to gain.

    Of course, what Keith Law says isn’t the gospel. I’d also rather have two top-10 picks than just one, so I also say don’t overpay for Appel. Just wanted to play devil’s advocate.

    As far as Cutch’s plane tweets and ESPN’s “coverage” of the HR Derby … honestly, it’s two big “who cares?” for me. Cutch isn’t exactly known for being a malcontent, so the criticism of him was somewhat unfair, I thought. Maybe he was having a bad night. Who knows?

    And like it or not, but ESPN covers successful teams … for the most part (I’m looking at you, Cubs/Knicks). For 19 seasons, the Pirates have not been a winning team. The Steelers’ market size hasn’t prevented ESPN from giving them plenty of coverage over the years. And the Penguins get the lion’s share of ESPN’s limited hockey coverage as well. For the Pirates to get the same kind of love, they need to show consistent winning. Not falling apart down the stretch this year would help.

    Oh, and Chris Berman’s an ass. Check YouTube for more examples of that.

  126. Jandy says:

    @Curt #114 ~ Yeah you’d think those people booing were Philly fans! ;)
    Someone else mentioned that way up top in the comments. Classless for sure.

  127. pants-n-at says:

    @ Jandy. No worries. As I said, this too shall pass. I think cmat0829 #119 said it best. I can’t wait for the 2nd half of the season to start!

  128. Krissy says:

    Did you happen to try to listen to the radio broadcast? Ha! I was attempting to listen to the All Star Home Run Derby on the radio last night (I was working) and they did everything but talk about the home runs. They interviewed ASG players, some of the derby guys when they were done.They covered up the intro for McCutchen with commercials (along w/half to three-quarters of the interview of Hanrahan – who didn’t want to be interviewed at that moment – he wanted to watch Cutch try to hit hr – at one point he said hold on or somthing, that he wanted to watch his guy) and the only thing I got to hear was that he hit a total of 4! Come on, ESPN – you were on the radio! Tell me about the derby, not about the other idiots and what they thought about there teams’ first half! And covering Cutch and Hanrahan with commercials – but I guess what can you expect from the Baltimore ESPN online radio feed (the only one I could get on my phone)?

  129. Arriba Wilver says:

    I thought you said “waitress sniffing,” which I think could have been a problem.

  130. Jandy says:

    AW ~ LOL! You’re terrible ;)

  131. Arriba Wilver says:

    I just read DK’s comment again about the TV ratings. That’s 300,000 HOUSEHOLDS. That’s a pretty incredible #. I watch almost all the games anyway, but I know I was thinking Sunday (even though it was an afternoon game) that I really wanted to see it since it was the last game before the break, and AJ was pitching. I hope the longterm contract FC negotiated with Root (or it’s predecessor) has an escalator clause in it for ratings.

  132. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    DK

    Do the figures of the viewing count towards us with the MLB package? I watch using ONLY Root sports of the Pirates. Can’t stand other announcers. I did have to watch the Giants broadcast since they were local.

    BTW, if folks have never heard the Giants broadcasting team of Kruk and Kuip, you are missing out. These 2 are the best, bar-none.

    DK: No. Local households.

  133. pants-n-at says:

    Concerning ratings: I no longer live in Pittsburgh … like so many others, but I’ve seen the Pirates on the road and they travel well. I would think nationally their TV ratings would rank well … just like the Steelers due to so many transplanted Pittsburghers. I know they don’t compare to Steeler Nation, but nonetheless….

  134. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    I believe that there is NO DOUBT that the Pirates broadcasts would do well, probably better than the Pens if this is the brand of baseball they continue to produce. I don’t care who you are, you’re not beating the Steelers.

    Does the MLB Network count as another sports station? I go to them for highlights and information. No love fest with Yankees/Red Sox.

  135. buggee says:

    Spot on OshGosh and Jandylicious. Joey Bats?

  136. Jandy says:

    Ryan, is that John Kruk of Phillies fame????

    buggee, you say Jandylicious like it’s a bad thang…

  137. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @Jandy

    No, it is not. Its short for Mike Krukow, the former Gaints/Cubs pitcher. The other is for Duane Kuiper, former Indians and Giants infielder.

    One story they like to share is the fact that Kruk (pitcher) had more career HR’s than Kuip (position player). Both played for a number of years in the bigs. Extremely knowledgable.

  138. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    I have NO problem with the KC fans booing Cano. Who cares? Its not just the point that he DIDN’T pick Billy Butler to particpate, its more to do with the fact that he’s a Yankee.

    All AL teams hate the Yankees. I’m sure most of baseball not associated with the Yankess, hate the Yankees.

    I’m booing the hell out of Prince Fielder, Ryan Braun if I was at the game.

  139. Jandy says:

    Ryan, thanks for the info on Kruk and Kuiper.

    LOL on Booing Braun!

  140. albatross says:

    @ radio wave,

    I think the main reasons the All-Star game doesn’t mean much any more are threefold, none of which have to do with the quality of player:

    1. We see all the stars all season long on highlights shows and various other outlets, as well as Inter-league games. Back in the day, if a team wasn’t on Game of the Week on NBC (or for a short time, Monday Night Baseball on ABC), you never got to see out of town guys, let alone from the other league.

    2. Baseball is way more fraternalistic than it used to be in the days of Gibson, Rose, Drysdale, etc. Those guys considered anyone on the other team their enemy, exhibition game or not.

    3. Money. The All-Star Game and World Series used to mean much-needed extra money for the players.

  141. JohninOshkosh says:

    I have no problem with the KC fans booing a Yankee.

    Lot of history between KC and New York. The Yankees treated the Kansas City Athletics like a minor league team with under the table dealings between ownership. In the late 70′s and early 80′s the two teams were bitter rivals. Add in the general dislike non-Yankee fans have of the Yankee franchise in general.

    Those things linger with fan bases and are passed down through the generations.

  142. Jandy says:

    OshKosh, kinda like the Cryers, errr…Flyers fans booing Sid, right? ;)

  143. JohninOshkosh says:

    @Jandy:

    Philly fans seem to have their own code of ethics. Not sure I’ve ever understood it. :)

  144. Jandy says:

    OshKosh, that’s prolly the best way I’ve seen it explained. lol

  145. Jag7 says:

    ESPNba is a joke, it’s self-promotion, not actual sports news. Still hoping NBC Sports Network can grow into a viable competitor. Saw a bit of ESPN this morning and one of their idiot analysts said that for McCutchen to be a star he has to get out of Pittsburgh and that would greatly benefit MLB.So there you go, the only teams that matter are the Yanks and Sox. If the Sox don’t make the playoffs again this year, will Selig create another wild card spot, or just implement a rule that every AL East team makes the playoffs.

  146. pants-n-at says:

    @ albatross. I agree. I have a ’73 (or ’74) Richie Hebner card and on the back it stated that Hebner worked as a grave digger in the off season. Money is a whole lot better now!

    I still remeember Hebner’s prebat routine of pulling up the back of his shirt off his neck. We used to imitate all the Pirates routines….Stargell’s wind up, etc. Ahhhhh the days when the Pirates were good almost every year.

  147. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    *McCutchen* DK hates the m-i-s-p-l-d words.

  148. RobertoForever says:

    Very good article on #Grilledcheese from his hometown Syracuse, NY newspaper.

    My favorite part of Grilli’s story is that he was a Pirate in college, as well.

    And it appears that the attitude behind #Zoltan is getting stronger, not waning.

    http://mobile.syracuse.com/advsyra/pm_29246/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=smUueHd1

  149. Kevin says:

    Nice article. Thanks for posting it! How many All-Stars SHOULD have been Pirates?

    MacDonald, McCutchen, Hanrahan, Grilli…Burnett?

  150. AJS says:

    Ugh. Only Tuesday and no bucco game until Friday! C’MON MAN! I haven’t been this anxious for the bucs to take the field again in a very long time. Even last year they were just barely above .500 and it felt like smoke and mirrors. This time it fels so much different. I don’t expect them to hit like they did in June for the rest of the season, but I don’t expect them to hit like they did in April and May the rest of the season either. Gone are teh days of hoping for a 3-2 victory. Now 5 and 6 run nights seem possible and holding the other guys to 4 still seems like a gime most nights…except for those where Bedard pitches. As Dejan has pointed out even Correia hasn’t been as bad as we make him out to be.

  151. NMR says:

    “I may not be on the All-Star team, but I’m proud of what I’ve done,” Grilli said. “I’m not facing the 7-8-9 guys. I’m facing the 3-4-5s of the lineups and those are the guys who are in Kansas City right now. The Cabreras, the Fielders, the Beltrans, the Hollidays. You know the names. Those are the guys I’m punching out. Those are the guys I’m making look silly.”

    Ugh. You’re a year removed from making bus trips with the AAA club. Tread lightly, Jason, tread lightly.

  152. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @NMR

    No way. That’s the attitude I want from a back end guy. He better reak of confidence.

    That is a closer’s mentality.

  153. NMR says:

    @Ryan

    How often does Mariano Rivera say something like that to the NY media?

  154. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    Who cares?

    1. Rivera has been doing it for years, he has nothing to prove, however prior to taking over the closers role he talked enough while John Wetteland was the 9th inning guy.

    2. Grilli is making a comeback, was out of baseball for a year due to an injury.

    3. That’s his hometown newspaper, a lot of friends, family, and associates I assume would read that, wants to let them know his mentality of the situation.

    I have no problem with what he said. I don’t want to hear the “should act like you been there speech.” That gets old. I want my athletes to have emotions, not be emotionless.

  155. Arriba Wilver says:

    NMR—I’m with you. He should have stopped after “the Hollidays.”

  156. NMR says:

    I’d say that Cabrera, Fielder, Holliday, and Beltran will be using it as bulletin board material, except they’d have to learn who Jason Grilli is first.

    It’s not about acting like you’ve been there before, it’s about showing humility.

    Baseballs far too humbling of a game to run your mouth after three months of success.

    See McDonald, James and Burnett, A.J.

  157. Bizrow says:

    Hebner helped his dad during the offseason

    ElRoy Face worked as a carpenter during the off season

    Things have definitely changed

  158. Arriba Wilver says:

    Reminds me of Hurdle’s quote TC mentioned–Two kinds of people.

  159. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    So, the McCutchen tweet thing is over?

    Now, we’re supposed to be offended about a bullpen pitcher saying that he’s been striking out guys like Cabrera, Holliday, and Beltran.

    Guess what controversy seekers!!!!

    HE HAS! There’s no shame in being proud of one’s accomplishments. Good for him.

    I’m going to repeat myself when I say this, but…

    GET A LIFE.

  160. Arriba Wilver says:

    Bunch—commenting on something is hardly being “offended.”. You might want to take a little of your own advice.

  161. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    So, someone talks about how Grilli somehow lacks humility and it’s not a sign that they, in some way, take offense to his comment? That’s interesting…

    You’re probably right, though. People always criticize when they feel the opposite. HAHA

  162. Arriba Wilver says:

    “Those are the guys I’m making look silly.”. That’s locker room material.

    “People always criticize when they feel the opposite. HAHA” WTF does that mean?

  163. Drew71 says:

    It means: don’t get in the way of a straw dog argument.

    Since we’re defining things again today.

  164. Bunch of fair weather fans... says:

    It’s sarcasm because you said that commenting doesn’t mean someone is offended.

    “You’re probably right, though. People always criticize when they feel the opposite. HAHA”

    In non-sarcastic terms….
    Why would a person call out someone for a lack of humility if they weren’t, in some way, offended by that perceived lack of humility?

    Better now?

  165. Arriba Wilver says:

    Drew-Beautiful.

  166. bob hasis says:

    I’m only watching PTI because the two abrasive regulars aren’t there, only to be offended by Bob Ryan and his Massachusetts arrogance, discussing Andrew’s plight.

    Even the contributors must have to pass a test to measure up to ESPN’s snobbish standards, to be able to appear as a guest

  167. Arriba Wilver says:

    Bunch–I guess, at least in one way, because I don’t agree with your interpretation that NMR was calling out Grilli for a “lack of humility.”. You are totally ignoring the Grilli quote I mentioned in # 164. That seemed over the top, and since NMR and I are the only ones who even commented on it, it seems you’re jumping the gun a little in trying to justify your moniker.

  168. pattonbb says:

    Cutch’s tweets….Grilli’s comments…..

    We’d like our favorite ballplayers to be ultra-humble and only talk about how much they love the city of Pittsburgh, the people of Pittsburgh, the sportwriters in Pittsburgh, and Primanti Bros. sandwiches. Just because Grilli bragged a little on himself doesn’t mean he’s not just as happy as AJ to be here. Isn’t he a free agent next year? I’d be bragging on my abilities too. Plus he probably feels he should be in KC right now (so do I, by the way).

    Cutch whined a little about flying. He probably wishes he knew how those Giants managed to fly on a private jet before he made his comments. Maybe next year he’ll spend some of his own loot and foot the bill for a private jet for him and his fellow all-stars (there’ll be 4 total Pirates next year by the way :) ).

    I don’t know…these guys have some swagger. I don’t see anything wrong with that. If Grilli was doing somersaults of the mound, or if Cutch was untuking his jersey and taking a couple minutes to round the bases, I’d have a big problem with that. These comments and tweets? Mountains and molehills, my friends.

    Just my opinion.

    ….fear the Bones….

  169. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    So, because Grilli said he makes them look silly, he lacks humility? Give me a freakin’ break.

    If those guys need locker room material, then they have bigger issues than not being able to hit Jason Grilli. I’m sure they know exactly who he is.

    Pitchers always have the upper hand to hitters. Hitters, win by a pitchers mistake….most of the time.

  170. Bizrow says:

    This, these tweets, are part of being in a race in July, will not use the word “Pennant Race” quite yet.

    Nuttin to worry about, we win on Friday, this will be soon forgotten.

    If you listen to Cook on the radil, he’s got kahunas criticizing others for not being or saying politically correct or human correct statements

    My two cents + two cents = two cents

  171. Arriba Wilver says:

    Pattonbb–I almost hate to even comment about your post, but who the heck said Grilli’s comments indicated he didn’t want to be here like AJ? His comments are definitely a very minor, bordering on irrelevant, issue. Bunch tried to turn it into a controversy like Cutch’s tweets (another non-event). What should we talk about? The weather?

  172. JohninOshkosh says:

    AW:

    It’s 81 degrees with sunny skies in Oshkosh. I am going to have a BLT for dinner and then go swimming. :)

  173. JMB says:

    It’s hot.

  174. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    BTW, did anybody catch Paul Maholm’s tweet back to him?

    “get off your wallet”

  175. JMB says:

    speaking of Cutch’s tweet.

    andrew mccutchen ‏@TheCUTCH22
    Guess someone got a lil mad(wow) over a tweet i sent about flying coach.clearly jokin.we were 1st class.jus lame to have a 3 hour layover.

  176. pattonbb says:

    @Arriba – You’re right. Probably a poor use of words on my part. I had a conversation with some other people today that thought Grilli’s comments were his way of saying “pay me or I’m gone!!”.

    I was thinking about that when I wrote my post.

  177. Arriba Wilver says:

    Ryan–who said that the issue was Grilli saying he made guys look “Silly” means he lacks humility? It was just a comment that it is probably something better said into a mirror while shaving rather than for publication.I agree with Bunch that this is a really minor, bordering on irrelevant, issue, but no need to twist things.

  178. Arriba Wilver says:

    John—:-)

  179. JMB says:

    I dont think Cutch has “the wallet” right now. He’s only making $500k this season.

    Next season at $4.5mm — he can bust out the AmEx.

    Cain is making $15mm this year. That is private jet $.

  180. Bizrow says:

    Its a good thing that we are dissecting tweets vs being 20 games behind at the all star break

    My love of this club was born in 54-55, Maz cemented it in my soul, Roberto and the love of the Burgh in general cemented it, the 70′s glazed it in my being. Tempered Steel?

    Folks, smell the roses and batten the hatches down for what might be coming, enjoy de jour

    Many mile to travel, many miles before we sleep

    BEAT EM BUCS

    PS, anyone know where one can purchase a green weenie, Goldsteins?

  181. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    104 here in Cali…

    BUT ITS A DRY HEAT!!!!!!!

  182. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    I’m not twisting anything at all.

    “It’s not about acting like you’ve been there before, it’s about showing humility.”

    Nothing twisted.

    Non-issue? Aparently not.

  183. Bizrow says:

    @AW, I might have two free seats available, where we sat on Opening Day for the Sat game vs the Marlins?

    Let me know via e-mail

    My eyes are good, but a graduation party I want to go to

    Biz

  184. Bizrow says:

    Lettuce not make this a Smizik blog

    LETS GO BUCS

  185. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @JMB

    I guess PM should’ve paid up for him.

  186. JohninOshkosh says:

    So is Erin Andrews making her Fox debut tonight. I’m grasping at reasons to tune in.

  187. JMB says:

    I hear ya Biz.

    I only hope that we are still in it in late August, so I can maybe see some meaningful Pirates’ baseball in SD.

    I saw some pathetic games in Oakland in 2010 and some listless Sept games in LA last year (not to mention dozens of other sad games over the years).

    Like all of us past a certain age, I haven’t attended a truly meaningful Pirate game since the late 80/early 90s.

  188. Arriba Wilver says:

    Ryan–you are juxtaposing what I’ve said with what NMR has said. That’s twisting in my book. You pick and choose what one says to try to discredit the other. I’m the one who pointed to the “silly” comment, NMR is the one who made the quote you referenced.

  189. Drew71 says:

    Oh? Smizik has a blog?

  190. Arriba Wilver says:

    Is there going to be an over/under on how many innings Cutch will play in? The dude is leading the league in hitting. Even Tony couldn’t ignore that, could he . . .?

  191. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @AW

    NMR’s quote was to me actually. I’m not twisting anything. I have no reason to twist anything around. I don’t care about this topic, but I need a break from my paper that I’m writing to conjure up a conversation about baseball.

    So, if I twisted things around, its probably because I’m really not paying attention. My bad.

  192. Arriba Wilver says:

    Ryan–but I’m the one who referenced “twisting,” not NMR, an innocent “victim” in this.

    Whatever, hope you get an A.

  193. JRay3 says:

    @ JMB – I am coming out to SD in August to see the Bucs play the Padres in the three game set and too am hoping we see meaningful baseball. I went to SF last year and when I booked the trip the Bucs were near the top of the division, by time I got out there we were knee deep in the middle of the collapse and already out of it.

    Maybe a chance to meet at one of the games.

  194. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @JRay

    I was at one of the SF games myself, unfortunetly, I was at the one they lost..had fun though.

  195. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    AW

    NOBODY’S INNOCENT!!!!

  196. JMB says:

    @Jray

    Sounds good.

    Yeah, I bought my tix @LAD in the heat of contention last year and ended up regretting it.

    I’m still in the stubhub browsing phase at this point, but if I go, it would be great to say hey.

  197. JohninOshkosh says:

    Most of you probably saw Dejan’s tweets today. We learned that today is Dejan and his wife’s wedding anniversary. He tweeted her a “Happy Anniversary” earlier:

    So we learn two things:

    1. Dejan decided to be romantic and get married around the time of year all girls dream of: the All Star break.

    2. A tweet to the wife proves there are still Big Spenders in the world. Yeats would have been proud.

    Sorry folks, I miss the Pirates!

  198. Arriba Wilver says:

    Can we go back and talk about Cutch’s tweets? :-)

  199. JMB says:

    I just hope that the kids look like Mrs. Kovacevic…..I kid!

  200. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @AW

    Shouldn’t talk about DK’s tweets like that!

    (twisted on purpose post)

  201. Bizrow says:

    Not sure if Smizik has a blog

    DemonDachshund says he does, so I believe him, but I hear its nasty.

    But he danced behind the Cobra sign in 79, so you never know what that did to him

  202. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @Biz

    He does on the “other” website. Its terrible actually.

  203. Boise Bucco says:

    Man, nothing screams Canadian pride like a jazz saxophonist.

  204. Boise Bucco says:

    That flyover was pretty SWEET THOUGH!

  205. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @BB

    I know a couple guys over there at Whiteman working on those things. Same engines as I have here at Beale.

  206. Bizrow says:

    @Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc)

    I know, Chris, aka DemonDachshund is my son

    Inside joke, very, very proud of him and his family

    Very, very, very proud he is a fellow from the Burgh, and very so happy he is infected to the PBC curse

    He danced many times behind the Cobra Sign

    In my memory, priceless

    Good things you hope you can pass on

  207. Milo Hamilton says:

    Somewhere, Bob Dornan just smiled.

  208. Drew71 says:

    Here we go,

    ASG.

    Can’t wait to see McCutchen pinch run in the sixth inning.

    Freaking La Russa.

    (He’ll steal second while ESPN is interviewing the Kansas City Mayor.)

  209. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @Drew

    Its FOX, not ESPN

    I don’t know who’s worse, Joe Buck/Tim McCarver or anybody at ESPN.

  210. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    But you nailed it LaRussa…

  211. Officer Mancuso says:

    DK’s blog is rocking. As it should be.

  212. Bizrow says:

    LaRussa once worked as a bouncer at the Tennison

    He burned my hoagie at Dannys

    He plans all the road delays for Penn Dot

    He’s also the voice you get when you call Verizon/Comcast/ etc

    I do not like the fellow

    Just so Cutch gets home without flight delays

    And healthy, this game DOES NOT COUNT

  213. Bizrow says:

    Very happy Drew is here

    So where do I send a check for the big A fight?

  214. Drew71 says:

    and then BRAUN draws the first blood.

    now i gotta root for the american league.

  215. Drew71 says:

    i only take cash

  216. Arriba Wilver says:

    OK, JB misplayed the hit to right field. No wonder they traded him for Robinson Diaz.

  217. Drew71 says:

    i wonder if Verlander ever plunked a guy on second

  218. Officer Mancuso says:

    Oy. Lunatics.

  219. bob hasis says:

    Can anyone remember when Melky was coming loose from the Yankees, and his name was associated with the Pirates, what occured that that idea fell flat, and he ended up in SF.

    I hope I’m accurate with my premise.

  220. Drew71 says:

    Arriba – They HAD to trade JB. His tweets lacked humility.

  221. JohninOshkosh says:

    Braun…La Russa…ugh…throw me a bone to cheer for the Senior Circuit!

  222. JMB says:

    suck it David Wright!

  223. Boise Bucco says:

    @Ryan,

    We had to stop in Whiteman a couple years ago; they have a pretty nice base there. I knew an engines troop stationed there from my time in Elmendorf, and he referred me to the best BBQ joint I’ve ever been to.

  224. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @Bob

    There was something there about Melky coming to the Pirates from the Yankees. But I don’t remember the details.

    I do know that he went to KC before he went to SF. He was traded to SF this offseason for Jonathon Sanchez……who was named in the Freddy Sanchez trade, before the pirates got a AA pitcher.

  225. twentytwo22 says:

    I think Sandoval flashed the ‘Z’ in the dugout.

  226. Arriba Wilver says:

    Drew–talk about Twisting stuff. But this is fun. At least if the Pirates get home field advantage in the WS.

  227. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’ll reluctantly give Braun this: living well is the best revenge!

  228. Drew71 says:

    That’s me. The Twister.

    Hey! Did i just get a nickname?

    I think I’m gonna cry.

  229. Officer Mancuso says:

    Can I get an over/under on Bucs make playoffs? OVER

  230. Bizrow says:

    No crying in baseball

  231. Bizrow says:

    @OM

    I’m thinking 2012Playoffs may post a line

  232. Drew71 says:

    Bautista! Robbing Braun. You the MAN. (Just ask Neal)

    - The Twister

  233. JohninOshkosh says:

    Did lil Ryan forget to take his «vitamin» today?

  234. Drew71 says:

    So where’s Dejan?

    Is the ASG one of those Hallmark Holidays that he hates?

    DK: Just got really lazy. Blah. All day.

  235. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    I have been kinda crabby……lol

  236. Jeff P says:

    Hi Dejan, Q for you: any idea why the Pirates let Pedro Ciriaco go in the off-season? I noticed he is having a solid season in triple A for red sox and now playing for major league sox. Not that he is a super star but seems odd that they didn’t resign him in off season given how starved for talent their system is at short stop. He played in 2010 futures game and is above average fielder. Seems like a guy worth keeping in your system. Any info you have would be great.

    Thanks,

    Jeff

    DK: I do believe that Ciriaco is still within the Chris Shelton statute of limitations before we pounce on the Pirates too quickly. It never looks good when the Pirates let a shortstop go who looks even passable, given their history at the position. But let’s wait and see. Ciriaco’s minor-league history doesn’t support some steady level of production.

  237. Drew71 says:

    It’s a blog. Crabs welcome.

    (Speaking of which, where’s Thunder?)

    ((Come to think of it, anyone ever see Thunder and Dejan at the same time? Same place? Together?))

  238. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Melk Man delivers.

  239. Boise Bucco says:

    Wow, National League’s gettin’ ON it today…maybe Cutch will get in before the 6th!

  240. Drew71 says:

    Sure he will. Somebody has to get Tony’s coffee

  241. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @Drew

    Nope…….not at all. DK does like to answer his questions, comment on his posts….

  242. Drew71 says:

    Ticked off that Braun didnt get plunked on third.

  243. Boise Bucco says:

    I want to hate Ryan Braun, but if he was on steroids last year, what’s he on this year? Last year he hit 33 HR’s, and this year he’s already hit 24 before the break.

  244. pattonbb says:

    Melky Cabrera, MVP……of this game.

  245. Drew71 says:

    Ok Ryan. I’l try your suggestion.

    So Dejan. How’s the Charity sign treating you?

    (Happy?)

  246. JohninOshkosh says:

    @Ryan

    I’ve got a question: what does Stlrfanrc mean?

    Struck out on Milo’s Google machine. Don’t be crabby.

  247. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    Love that sign…..

    LOL

  248. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    steeler fan and my initials

  249. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    I know he’s a phenom and all, but why is Bryce Harper an All-Star?

  250. Rumor has it that Dejan sprang the $2.50 to take his wife up the incline to see the sights of Pittsburgh for their anniversary. Romantic cuss!!!

    She had to pay for the trip down.

  251. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    Uggla too……..hate this AS stuff, really

  252. JohninOshkosh says:

    Aha!! I always forget to rule out the obvious. LOL (no really, I am)

  253. bob hasis says:

    Ryan@#226
    One of the announcers mentioned he also went to Atl, KC i think then to SF. But I think I was aware we were trying to get him, perhaps around the time we gave the Yankees X. Nady and Domaso Marte. I was curious if the Pirates were ever serious

  254. JohninOshkosh says:

    @Groat:

    He must have collected enough aluminum cans today to spring for the incline and get the wife something pretty, like a Hallmark card.

  255. Drew71 says:

    LOVE the incline. Great view of the Charity Sign.

  256. Milo Hamilton says:

    Joe Mauer – more endorsements than homers.

  257. He tried to use his “Press Pass” on the Incline but they wouldn’t take it.

    Dejan doesn’t believe in “Hallmark Moments” so he did not spring for a card.
    Expect a grumpy column tomorrow.

  258. Boise Bucco says:

    CUTCH SIGHTING!

  259. Drew71 says:

    He’ll say something pithy in the morning Brief And To The Point.

    Something like “The ASG is … um, hang on … uh … Zzzzzzzzzzzzz …”

    Something classic like that.

    DK: I take pride in my predictability, Drew-San.

  260. Who is LaRussa sending Cutch in to pinch run for?

  261. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey Bryce, wanna get away ?

  262. Boise Bucco says:

    BAHAHAHA Harper

  263. TDB1977 says:

    Maybe he should have spent some time taking fly ball practice this afternoon?

  264. twentytwo22 says:

    His shoes got in his eyes.

    I’m first.

  265. TDB1977 says:

    And now we have a Hammer sighting!

  266. JohninOshkosh says:

    Get that bum, Kershaw outta there.

  267. Bizrow says:

    I’m very glad I’m watching the Food Network

    Chopped

    Good tidings lunatics

  268. Boise Bucco says:

    Nice job by Gary Thorne cutting off Cano to announce Chipper Jones’ last All-Star AB.

    Gary Thorne– the anti-Berman.

  269. JohninOshkosh says:

    I say Kinsler sandbagged that base rap by Chipper.

  270. Boise Bucco says:

    Way to go Cutch!!

  271. TDB1977 says:

    Base hit for Cutch!

  272. aglebagel says:

    Really McCarver? That’s what you have to say about Cutch, that he has a similar contract to Jay Bruce? Way to show him that bat speed, Cutch.

  273. Reading says:

    Awesome. Just gets up and pounds the ball into left field.

  274. JohninOshkosh says:

    Most ridiculous thing one can write: Tim McCarver, Hall of Famer

  275. Drew71 says:

    And good for Chipper. Nice crisp 27 bouncer through the hole.

  276. Boise Bucco says:

    Dickey’s in to pitch. This is gonna be a fun inning to watch.

  277. aglebagel says:

    @bob

    Surprised to hear your disdain for the PTI guys. For all the crap I give ESPN, Mike and Tony create one my favorite half-hours of television. But hey, to each his own.

  278. Milo Hamilton says:

    The last Pirate homerun was by Dave Parker in 1981 in Cleveland.

  279. Milo Hamilton says:

    Too bad Gordon Beckham didn’t make it. Would love to see that interview.

  280. Dan1283 says:

    If you think Kornheiser and Wilbon are good on TV, you should hear their 20 minutes together every Monday on TK’s radio show. A little nugget of gold every Monday. Can’t even watch PTI that segment is so good.

  281. JohninOshkosh says:

    Nice interview of RA Dickey by Pee Wee Herman.

  282. Milo Hamilton says:

    @Oshkosh

    Are you saying you should never sit in front of Ken Rosenthal at the movies ?

  283. twentytwo22 says:

    Hamels hit 96.

  284. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    @bob

    I forgot about ATL.

  285. JohninOshkosh says:

    @Milo:

    I have a few good responses but this is a “family newspaper.”

    As opposed to a non-family newspaper, I guess.

  286. TDB1977 says:

    Does Hanrahan pitch the 9th then?

  287. Milo Hamilton says:

    Papelbon in the 9th is my guess.

  288. Ryan (Nor-Cal Stlrfanrc) says:

    Cutch only get 1 AB?

  289. TDB1977 says:

    And people don’t like the fact the Pedro wears his hat over his ears? I would go crazy watching this guy pitch with his hat on sideways a little bit.

  290. Milo Hamilton says:

    @TDB

    As long as Hanrahan gets people out, I don’t even notice that ridiculous thing on his chin.

  291. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    HAMMER TIME!!!!

  292. JRay3 says:

    Hammer time in to face the crowd favorite…nice to see him get in this year.

  293. Milo Hamilton says:

    He’s going to use 3 guys to get 3 outs, isn’t he ? Vintage LaRussa (sorry Michael Cole).

  294. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Hanrahan may need to change his number to 28 and put BLASS on the back of it.

  295. JRay3 says:

    What is this a Randy Johnson, John Kruk moment? Butler had to be shaking by the end of that at bat.

  296. twentytwo22 says:

    298

  297. twentytwo22 says:

    299

  298. twentytwo22 says:

    300

  299. JRay3 says:

    Cutch about to be interviewed live on MLB Network

  300. Jay G -Jacksonville FL via New Castle says:

    Haven’t read all 300 posts…..Has anyone heard of the roster moves that we are going to make….Presley will be back up…..Will it be Marte time????……Anyone????

  301. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I look for minimal moves at best. The Nutting Regime wants to keep what they’ve made this year, and continue the fiasco that nothing is suppose to happen for a few more years…..Which will be added to a few more years after that, etc.

  302. BFD says:

    Rumor is Cutch will be hitch- hiking back to Pgh

 
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