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Wakeup Call: All these big watches

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

LONDON — Brief and to the Point …

>> The Friday column is on badminton.

No, really, it is.

But it also gets into a broader issue from which all sports could learn, given the real mess of a controversy here about throwing matches.


>> London has strange weather. Unlike Pittsburgh, where a rain will be accompanied by very steady cloud cover, it’ll rain here out of nowhere.

That’s how it was yesterday at Olympic Park.

>> It’s easy to get the impression Londoners are keen on keeping the time. And it’s not just because of (the real) Big Ben.

All of the men wear watches, and I mean a higher ratio than I’ve seen anywhere in the world. Really big watches, too, the kind that look like they’d weigh the arm down.

Not sure why, but if I had to guess it’s that the British are, true to the stereotype, extremely punctual. That’s best exemplified by the remarkable train system, above and below ground, that’s been almost error-free in shuttling around the tens of thousands of visitors in addition to the 8 million residents.

If a train is delayed by even one minute, a voice comes over the PA system in the station to apologize.

No kidding.

Imagine having that job with the Port Authority.

>> If you missed my stuff from yesterday on social media: This was stuff on the Pirates’ futile play for Hunter Pence and Shane Victorino. As well as specifics of the Padres’ ask on Chase Headley.

>> Very, very easy to rank this as the Pirates’ biggest series since that one with the Braves about 19 years back, no?

Could be double-value, too, if they do well. The obvious is in the standings, given that they’re 3 1/2 back. But the other is that the Reds could use some cooling down. Well as the Pirates have been playing, the Reds have been just ridiculous. Even without Joey Votto for a big chunk of that time.

>> We’ll resume the weekly chats after I get back. Tried it, just won’t work from here.


  1. @DK, your Friday column link goes to the Monday column story. Just thought you might want to know. Thanks.

  2. RobertoForever says:

    Here’s to hoping Wandy can reproduce his success at GABP from early this season.

    Would love to see a win to start off the series!

  3. Mike C. says:

    Great article DK.

    Much more blame lies in the organizers than the players themselves imo. You play to win the game, right? Well in this case the GOLD. Fighting spirit my butt. If i trained for 4 hard years, I would do anything to reach that goal, short of cheating, which I think this wasn’t. just using the tournament’s rules to your advantage.
    I even heard the Chinese team did this so they wouldn’t face the other Chinese team, and the Korean and Indonesia’s team threw their game in spite.
    Wondering if you know if the players did this on their own or if the coaches were in on this too.
    Did the coaches even order them to throw the matches?

    This Olympics have had it’s great moments and stories, but it is also marred by many scandals, controversies and given rise to conspiracy theories.
    The judges have been horrible in many cases, especially in Fencing. Just a disgrace.

    It’s a shame watching these athletes train so hard for so long and lose cause of outside factors out of their control.

    DK: Quote fro the Chinese coach pretty powerfully suggests he knew, but he and the other Chinese pairs are still here, still competing.

  4. Sammich says:

    Not that it would ever happen, but I wonder how the NFL would react if a team allowed their opponent to score a touchdown in the name of strategy.

  5. CDBrewer says:

    FABULOUS piece. I am waiting for it to show up to forward to my Mom who was very upset that an athlete would think of this. I was struggling to explain it to her. Thank you.

    One other compliment and question: Great work on the trade possibilities, just fantastic, BUT, do you really think Headley’s potential is THAT much greater than the potential of a Jones/Snider/Sanchez bit? I think Headley is playing about as well as he is going to, and the Pirates would be switching his position.
    I love the honesty on all of it, and I just see it as a toss-up on Headley.

  6. stickyweb says:


    I agree completely that headley’s value is being inflated because there were so few good hitters available this trading season, whether that’s due to the extra wildcard, loss of comp pick for arb eligible players or something else.

  7. Curt says:

    Happy Friday all.

    In the words of one Mr. Bart Scott: “Can’t wait.”

    What a huge series this is going to be. I’m hoping we can make up some ground in this weekend. Should be entertaining baseball for the weekend.

    As for the trades, I still sense something might get done during the waiver period in late August, early September. I know its harder to make trades, but I think something gets done.

  8. Jandy says:

    August 2nd, 2012 – 9:08 pm
    “Jandy is Helga.

    I’m sure of that. I’m sure of that.”
    Bahahahahaaa!!! ;)

  9. TDB1977 says:

    Not sure if anyone saw, but the Pirates moved Burnett to Sunday instead of Monday. I have a good feeling with Wandy pitching tonight and AJ pitching on Sunday, that we can take 2 out of 3 from the Reds and close in within 2.5 of them. I just don’t feel comfortable with JMac right now to get the sweep.

  10. Jandy says:

    I don’t feel comfortable with JMac right now at all. He’s struggling mightily.

  11. JAL says:

    JAL’s I Heard It Through The Grapevine Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 Go Buccos- Pirate News (from external sources)


    4—Pirates Prospects

    How Did the Trade Deadline Impact the 2013 Payroll?

    How Do August Waiver Trades Work?

    Minor Moves: Barrett Barnes to the DL, Pirates Sign Erik Turgeon

    After The Trade Deadline: Updated Top 20 Prospects

    Indians Hold A Hit-O-Rama

    Prospect Watch: Tabata Has Four Hits; Nick Evans, Andrew Lambo Start Rehab

    5 Bucs Dugout

    Phillies Wanted Starling Marte, Brad Lincoln ‘And More’ For Hunter Pence, According To Report

    6 Rumbunter

    Pittsburgh Pirates Should Go for Broke Because NL Central Is Down, Or Is It?

    The Next 20 Pittsburgh Pirates Games Should Tell the Tale

    7 McEffect

    Thursday 8/2 Minor League Roundup

    8 The Green Weenie

    Bucs Balance Long & Short Of It At Deadline

    Wandy Rodriguez

    9 Raise the Jolly Roger

    News and notes: Biggest series since…

    10 WHY GAVS


  12. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 CBS Sports

    Pirates-Reds game Preview

    12 Albany Times Union

    Playoffs in sight, Pirates prep for pivotal series

    13 Chicago Tribune

    Pirates Report

    14 Lindys Sports

    It’s been 14 years since series meant so much to Pirates

    15 Dayton Daily News

    Rough n’ Ready Reds ready for Bucs

    16 KDKA

    “The Mayor” Sean Casey Previews Pirates-Reds

    17 Cincinnati Enquirer

    Injuries leave Reds short-handed


    18 PBC Site

    Contending Bucs taking it one game at a time

    NoMcCutchen again named NL Player of the Month

    19 Baseball Prospectus

    What You Need to Know

    20 Fangraphs

    Will The Pirates Bullpen Fold Down The Stretch?

  13. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Comments Made on the BTSC News Cycle

    Is This a Make or Break Camp for Steelers Linebacker Jason Worilds?

    22 Steelers Depot

    - Jonathan Scott Already Injured With Lions

    23 Steelers Gab

    Count Antonio Brown as a Big Fan of New OC Todd Haley

    24 Nice Pick Cower

    Tear Heard Round The World: Does Mention Of Tear Compromise Steelers Big Ben?

    Pitt Blogs

    25 Pitt Blather

    Cinci Wants to Get Paid

    26 Cardiac Hill

    Will Ray Graham Be Ready?

    WVU Blogs

    27 Metro News

    WVU Ranked 11th In USA Today Preseason Coaches Poll

    28 WV Illustrated

    Five Questions As WVU Opens Training Camp


    29 Sky Sports

    Transfer Clockwatch

    30 Daily Telegraph

    Premier League’s best bargains, in pictures

    31 World Soccer Daily

    10 Ten stories you need to read, August 2nd, 2012

  14. JAL says:

    I Heard It Through the Grapevine, Marvin Gaye, 1968. There were 4 major versions of this song recorded from 1967 to 1970–Smokey Robinson, Gladys Knight, Marvin Gaye, and CCR but the song became most associated with Marvin Gaye

  15. Jandy says:

    JAL, I always loved that song…no matter who sang it. Thanks again for all you do with your posts.

  16. Hooco01 says:

    Are the Olympics almost over? Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzz.

  17. Drew71 says:



    Anyway. I’d be very happy with two of three.

    Loved the story from the last thread supplied by Pigsie of Dock Ellis throwing at EVERY Reds batter until he was removed. By Murtaugh, not the umpire. The umpire evidently allowed it, which is hilarious.

    And yes. As Pigsie wrote. I don’t advocate throwing at heads.

    But if they wanna plunk some fat reds butts, fine by me.

  18. Drew71 says:

    Can’t wait for the NEXT off day. To see if Dejan and Thunder do a little more headhunting.

    (See Dejan? THAT’S snide.)

  19. Naje says:

    The Dock Ellis story is a classic… I remember the game and the attitude that came with it. I only wish someone, ANYONE, would have done that to LaRussa and his band of punks at any point in the last decade. And when the great genius and his sidekick dave duncan came out to argue, like they ALWAYS did if you threw within a foot of Pujols’ baggy jersey, just have the ghost of Lloyd Mac mow’em down…

  20. TJA says:

    Oh yea…no question…the biggest series in years for the Pirates vs. Reds. Reminds me of those great 1970 battles. The Bucs are in a pennant race!! How about that?!

  21. JAL says:


    It has happened in the NFL, in both directions. Teams have let the other team score when they were sure the team was going to score to save time so they could try to go down the field. Even happened in Superbowl when the Pats let the Giants even though Ahmad Bradshaw looked like he was trying to stop.

  22. stickyweb says:

    Notice how those teams that went “all in” still haven’t won since the deadline? It’s like the can’t buy a win, literally! They’re no guarantees with these supposed biggest names available.

    I wonder if Reds fans are furious singe the last I saw, Broxton can’t lead off. The GM really let them down. Maybe the stands will only be half full. Hopefully the combination of no Votto, no Phillips and actually playing a MLB team is finally too much for Cincy to overcome.

    Did you see Cincy’s winning % with Votto was. 565 and it’s over. 800 without him? That guy can’t come back soon enough IMO. ha!

  23. The Gunner says:

    @ Naje – #19

    It is too bad McClendon didn’t get a piece of LaRussa back in 2005, a week or so before Lloyd got the pink slip. Lloyd would have annihilated Anthony.

    It is time for the Bucs to put another stake in the ground and sweep the Reds. The law of averages is against the Reds to keep on winning and it is time for the Bucs to sweep a series instead of taking 2 out of 3.

    JMac is a HUGE area of concern at this point, I hope CH has him on a short leash in case his performance has all the same problems. The Bucs can’t let the game get out of reach. I really like JMac and hope he works his problems out.

  24. TJA says:

    Re: 23 and 19 posts…oh yea…it absolutely was pure entertainment to go to the ballyard just to watch Mac and LaRussa go at each other. When the Pirates were so bad…Mac had some fire in his belly and as mentioned, it was sure entertaining.

  25. TCB says:

    I just hope we don’t get swept. We having, for the most part, been winning but the Reds are a huge step up from the Astros and Cubs.

  26. CWalton_67 says:


    One minute and 37 seconds of my life that I will never get back.

  27. The Gunner says:

    @ TJA – 24

    Mac was the best Pirate manager aside from Hurdle & Leyland (the post Chuck Tanner era.) Too bad the talent the previous BMTIB provided to him was sooooooooooooooooooooooo putrid.

    On another subject, it is hard to believe Ross Ohlendorf and Kip Wells are still in the big leagues. Talk about puuuuuuuuuuuuuuutrid – ha ha ha!!

  28. David says:

    “>> Very, very easy to rank this as the Pirates’ biggest series since that one with the Braves about 19 years back, no?”

    Actually DK it is rather difficult to say that.

    On September 17th 1997 the Pirates entered a 2 game series against the Astros whom they trailed by 3.5 games with about a week and a half to play. A sweep would of pulled them with in 1.5 games and given them a great fighting chance going down the stretch. In essence that was the 1997 team’s season.

    To say this series easily surpasses that one is going a mile too far. Win or lose this series the Pirates will live on to fight another day but bacl in 1997 that really was not the case.

  29. LuckyNKentucky says:

    It’s a shame badminton is even an Olympic sport and softball and baseball aren’t. It should be single elimintion-permanently. Then, everyone could go back to playing it at picnics where it should be. But the column hits home no matter what sport.

  30. buggee says:

    Heading down to the Nati later this afternoon to watch up close and personal some fat red butts get plunked. That could be misconstrued, but please refrain yourselves. All 3 games are sold out. Sometimes it’s not what you know but who you know. You know?

    I remember back in the days of the Maplethorpe controversy in the Nati, the “Welcome to Cincinnati” sign on the Brent Spence bridge was grafittied to “Welcome to Censornati”. I also remember MAYOR Jerry Springer getting booted from office for engaging services of prostitutes. He went on to become a “respected” news anchor, and we see where he is now. Weird town, the Nati.

    Helga? too funneh.

    Totally jonesing for baseball AND hockey. Haven’t said THAT in this town for a really long time.

    Not on board with moving Burnett up a game. If a pitcher’s in the rotation and it’s his turn and he’s healthy, run him out there. Just hope this move by CH doesn’t skew Bedard’s confidence, though I don’t really think that likely.

    Anybody want to lay out their favorite cocktail recipe?

  31. Naje says:

    Stands will be full in Cincy this weekend… and there will be a lot of Bucs fans there, too. I’m hoping to head north for tomorrow night’s game (from Louisville), but tix are difficult to come by… stormy weather predicted for most of day Sunday.

    Bucs just have to bear down and settle into their game…Cutch’s tweet last night:
    “Defy the odds.we wont let history define our future.Our actions will do the talking.our determination will will turn doubters into believers”


  32. Jandy says:

    Buggee, it’s not nice to laugh at old helga’s :p

  33. tmp444 says:

    Going on vacation today, and will be in the car out of range for the game tonight. I have satellite, but have a Sirius subscription rather than XM, so I can’t pick up the game. Guess I’ll be following the blog while going 75mph!!! My wife will be thrilled…..

  34. Jandy says:

    tmp, get your wife to help follow the blog…I’m bringin’ hubby around, and he always has said he hates baseball. ;)

  35. tmp444 says:

    Jandy – I could get her to help – but I’ll need to teach her how to use a smartphone first. She’s still stuck in the flip phone era. *shakes head*

  36. aglebagel says:


    It sounds like you’re taking a particular view that Dejan referenced at the beginning of these Games and a few people took offense to. Just because Americans tend to play badminton poorly at picnics doesn’t mean that it is not a highly competitive and skilled sport elsewhere, and deserving of Olympic status. Have you ever watched it? It’s amazing. Baseball got the ax it deserved, until we can see the best in the world play.

  37. tmp444 says:

    BTW — dropped my dog off at the kennel this morning. Caught a glimpse of the check-in list, and I’ll be d@mned if there wasn’t a dog named Zoltan on the list. Made me proud.

  38. Drew71 says:


    – Mix beer with glass.
    – Drink.

  39. LuckyNKentucky says:


    No, I haven’t watched, but your points are well taken. Guess I’m too much baseball/football to appreciate some of the other sports as I should. I know I’m in the minority on that.

  40. twentytwo22 says:

    Here’s three Pirates-Reds memories
    1. August series in Cincinnati. Saturday day game was on national TV and there was a banner in Right Field that said ‘THE BUCS ARE IN THE HUNT FOR THE REDS IN OCTOBER’ (may have said Pirates but I don’t think so)

    2. 1990 NLCS. Series started in Cincinnati. Bob Walk started Game 1 and the Pirates won. It was a night game at 8:30. The next afternoon at 3:15 Cy Young winner Doug Drabek started Game 2. No way did I think they were going to lose. The Pirates had 1st and 2nd nobody out in the 1st.

    3. May 10, 1998. My choice for ‘Pirates’ moment of the 19 years of losing. The Pirates tie the game in the bottom of the 9th. Al Martin is the winning run at 3rd with 1 out. Kevin Young singles on a line drive to right over a drawn in infield in the middle of the hole. The RF (playing at arm strength depth ie shallow) charges the ball and throws home and Martin is out. Martin had gone back to tag on a ball that was head high and landed just beyond the white lined arc on the turf.

  41. JAL says:


    I always thought Drew and snide were synonyms :)

  42. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Who woke him up?

  43. PhillyJake says:

    “They’re now the Black Sox of Badminton.”

    Not true at all. I’d say why, but you already did.

    Really, don’t think this line belongs in an otherwise good article.

  44. JohninOshkosh says:

    I am disappointed with you people. I thought you were much more juvenile.

    No one has teed off on the obvious shuttlecock jokes. They are sitting out there like a fat red butt.

    C’mon, buggee, you are better than this.

  45. Arriba Wilver says:

    PhillyJake—quit cherrypicking! :-)

    DK—you’re welcome!

  46. buggee says:

    Naje, if you do get to the games this weekend in the Nati, wander over to secion 124 and look for the Pirate Parrot’s head on a stick. That’ll be me and my daughter (Deads’ season-ticket holder).

    US Judo won a gold (wonder if they threw any matches–sorry, couldn’t resist). That’s outstanding. First ever for the US. Dejan, have you run into the Judo medal winner yet? Would love to read that interview.

    @Drew, #38: Tremendous. Expected, but funneh nonetheless.

    Flip phone? Is it smaller than my bag-phone?

  47. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Careful, John. I’ve already done the offending for the day on the badminton, which I apologize for.


    Hope you don’t catch the boss out of sorts like last evening, quad deuce and his negativisms not withstanding.

  48. JohninOshkosh says:


    That whole sport is getting shuttlecock blocked by corruption.

    I’ll be appearing at Zany’s in Poughkeepsie through the weekend.

  49. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Per Gene Hackman and The French Connection, John, do you pick your feet at Poughkeepsie? (Now, if that doesn’t offend anyone, I don’t know what will).

  50. tmp444 says:

    Buggee — With my wife and her technology prowess, I’m lucky she’s not carrying around one of these:

  51. JohninOshkosh says:


    Great reference! I can tell that under your Minister exterior beats the heart of a movie buff. Baseball and movies-my two enduring loves.

    Oh, along with my wife and children.

  52. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Especially some of the old ones that aren’t loaded with F-bombs, etc. I love some of the one-liners. I’ve even tucked a few of those into some of my messages for my sons’ benefit. They have 2 full racks of DVD’s on their floor of the house, so they’re movie buffs, also. Best way to relax in the evening. (Not much else to do around here. Cow tippin’ is illegal). We have the full Cary Grant package and all of Clint Eastwood’s movies, most of John Wayne’s, too. Denzel and Morgan Freeman are my two modern favorites. Mark Wahlberg, too, but a little too course for the wife at times.

  53. kevnj says:

    I almost skipped the article on badminton because it was about, uh badminton… But very happy I didn’t, really interesting piece. Nice work, not that you need my applause. You have done a great job covering the olympics stuff.

  54. Keith says:

    Scott Podsednik released by the Nation today. He can still hit. Any chance he approves a trade for nothing to the Bucs for the stretch?

  55. Florida Pirate says:

    This is from some blog…one of my favorite Reds and Bucs memories…about Pedro Borbon and Bob Prince

    “His reputation for using his teeth in brawls was cemented during a bench-clearer between the Pirates and Reds in a July 14, 1974, doubleheader. What started when Reds pitcher pitcher Jack Billingham plunked Pirates hurler Bruce Kison, became complete chaos with punches thrown and landed. Bucs pitcher Daryl Patterson made the mistake of pushing Borbon aside, as Pedro pulled Patterson’s hair and dug into the back of his neck with, yes, his teeth. Following the altercation, Patterson had to get a tetanus shot.

    The next time Borbon appeared out of the bullpen, Pirates radio broadcaster Bob Prince announced, “Dracula is on!”

  56. scapper says:

    Normally I’d read that type of tweet A-Mac put out and just roll my eyes and think, “What a bunch of blah-blah-blah meaningless crap. ” But with A-Mac…I’m a believer. I feel so stupid getting so fired up over reading that, but something about this guy makes me think that he might just have it in him to will this team out of the mire of 19 years of ineptitude. Just seems like he will NOT be tethered to the past. He’s the most exciting Pirate since Dave Parker and I think he’ll have a huge series.

    Of course, I’ll feel really dumb if they get swept this weekend, but I don’t see that happening.

  57. The Gunner says:

    @ Florida Pirate – #55

    I remember that game pretty well, I thought the Gunner was going to fall out of the booth as he was pretty fired up. And, the Gunner never let it go because every time Borbon would pitch, he’d re-tell that story – it was funnier every time!

    @ Keith – #54

    Podsednik looks like he might be a find, who do you propose they cut – Mercer? What they really need to do is beef up the starting rotation.

  58. Absolute59 says:

    The Phils may have wanted those things for Victorino from PBC but they took less from the Dodgers as they got at best comparable pitchers to Lincoln and Morris and no third piece.

    As to Headly, the problem all along with him is that he really is not (as stated in your Tweet) a corner OF. The last time he played there was 2009 and his UZR was a horrendous -16.9.

  59. Jandy says:

    I see Drew is on a roll…Lucky and OshKosh are joining him…with AW nipping at their heels. LOL thanks guys, I feel like crap, and you’re making me feel better. Going to see the doc soon…maybe catch you all later on…after I sleep for about 5 hours…it’s nice to be able to work overtime…but it sucks to lose it when you’re so sick you gotta go to the doc for meds…Go Buccos!

  60. LuckyNKentucky says:

    What’s the problem, J-girl?

  61. buggee says:

    Will there be happy endings for all the shuttlecocks? (vile reference to Asian Massage Parlors there)

    Are those offical shuttlecocks or are they loaded?

    Have the offending teams tampered with the shuttlecocks?

    Just wondering…

  62. Jandy says:

    Sinus problems, Lucky…AC irritates it … but can’t go without AC either. No win situation. Thanks for asking.

  63. Drew71 says:

    Yes. Arriba certainly is a heal nipper.

    Does that make me the heal?

  64. Jandy says:

    Drew, you’re snide, but never a heel ;)

  65. Drew71 says:

    And PS. I don’t go to doctors. Jandy is my drug.

    Hope you feel better soon.

  66. Jandy says:

    lol thanks. I rarely go to doctors either, but I’m that miserable.
    I’m really outta here this time…hopefully catch you all later.

  67. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Well I have a little help for that but I won’t mention spiritual things here, but I will do something for you. Get a good report at the doc’s.


    Thanks. Now I don’t feel so bad.

  68. cmat0829 says:

    On Headley: sorry, but he just isn’t a “difference maker” worth what the Padres were asking. That’s not just my —and Neal’s— opinion. If anyone notices, he is still on the Padres roster today. No takers across MLB.

    I think we need to always keep things in perspective. Just because someone may be the ‘best of this years deadline available players’ doesn’t make them worth what they are asking. I think the Bucs will be right back in this spot next year at the deadline and maybe there will be something worth giving up a top prospect for…. once you use the bullet it is gone.

    On the series vs. Cincy, need to also keep perspective. Only if one team sweeps the other will this significantly alter the standings…. 2 out of 3 for either team only changes the standings one game. I think the bigger challenge is for the Bucs to slow down these Reds…they are white hot (against crap competition) and hopefully the Bucs can get them started on a string that brings them back to Earth.

  69. buggee says:

    awww J-gal, I do hope you get to feeling better soon. There’s this stuff called Sinusflush or something that is just saline that I found works wonders in situations like that. That and BreatheRight strips. But I lean toward non-pharms anyway as I’m more focused on personal-liver abuse.

    “I throw my shuttlecock into the air… from there it goes I know not where.” Shakespeare? Dude,… control your shuttlecock already. Put that thing away

  70. DemonDachshund says:

    60-44, 58 games left

    21-37 needed for 81-81
    29-29 will mean 89-73

    3.5 behind CIN for the division

    0.5 ahead of ATL (v HOU) for the home WC

    4.5 ahead of STL (v MIL) for the road WC
    5 ahead of LAD (v CHC)
    6.5 ahead of ARI (@ PHI)

  71. JaxBuc says:

    Jandylicious, feel better soon.

    You do realize, though, that the evidence on this blog indicates that you’re not the only one that isn’t fully functional above the neck.

  72. buggee says:

    Since I’m abusing the word “shuttlecock” (thanks John), I decided to Wiki the term to discover it’s origin:

    “The name shuttlecock is frequently shortened to shuttle. The “shuttle” part of the name was probably derived from its back-and-forth motion during the game, resembling the shuttle of a loom; the “cock” part of the name was probably derived from the resemblance of the feathers to those on a cockerel”

    hmmm. Never knew dat.

  73. buggee says:

    @LuckyinKentucky–You’re a minister?!?!? I didn’t know that. I knew there was a reason for keeping my posts no worse than PG. I’m honored to meet you…

  74. Stickyweb says:

    @ Keith & Gunner

    I looked up Podsednik to dispute your claims that he would be a good pickup, but the stats say he may be worth it. He’s hitting .387 this year. Cutch might not win the batting title on his own team!

    Seriously, he missed last year but had OBP of .342 & .353 his last 2 years, still has some speed (6 SBs vs. 1 CS this year) and would look pretty good as a 4th OF.

    If you sign him, I thnk you have to send Elvis down as Jhay only back up at 3B with McG gone and Jordy only capable backup at SS

  75. JohninOshkosh says:

    Thanks buggee. I knew you would not be premature with the shuttlecock jokes.

  76. buggee says:

    I had to share my Eclectic Dysfunction with regard to the shuttlecock John. Aren’t there pills for that?

  77. JohninOshkosh says:

    Get well, Jandy.

  78. Drew71 says:

    I thought I covered premature earlier this week.

    But I need a little help with mature.


  79. JohninOshkosh says:


    I knew someone had. Could not recall who, though, and was too lazy to peruse the archives.

    Your royalty check is in the mail.

  80. Drew71 says:

    Thanks. Will use it to buy a few of those beer cocktails.

    Well. At least one.

  81. LuckyNKentucky says:


    My honor, sir. It’s an honor to be a minister, believe me. Can’t tell you the joy to be able to preach, even to 20 people, which is what we have in our church. Maybe, someday we’ll hit 100.

  82. Drew71 says:

    And by the way, Dejan. You know what they say.

    It’s not the size of the watch. It’s the motion of the second hand.

    And unfortunately, yes, we count in seconds.

  83. Boise Bucco says:




  84. twentytwo22 says:

    Mat Latos’ has a clear difference between LHB and RHB.
    2012 vs RHB .206/.267/.344 = .611 OPS
    2012 vs LHB .270/.332/.519 = .851 OPS

    Career vs RHB .208/.275/.337 = .612 OPS
    Career vs LHB .250/.304/.403 = .707 OPS

    Alex Presley should play LF in place of Marte (.417 OPS vs RHP, 1.458 vs LHP). Leake and Bailey’s numbers are even LHB vs RHB. But tonight Presley needs to play and bat leadoff.

    Barmes’ stats at Cincinnati have been stellar and Barajas’ have been terrible. Should bat Barmes 7th.

    My lineup for tonight including their OPS at Great American Ballpark
    LF Presley 1.035
    2B Walker .828
    CF McCutchen .841
    1B Jones .793
    RF Snider No Plate Appearances
    3B Alvarez .596
    SS Barmes .783
    C Barajas .503/McKenry .917

    When Cincy brings in a lefty late in game then you have Sanchez and Marte to PH.

    Tabata is 2-5 against Latos with a homerun but that doesn’t matter now does it? Underachieving jerk.

  85. buggee says:

    @Lucky: this is my church: It’s modeled after Lifechurch out of OK. Might give you a little inspiration sir.

  86. cmat0829 says:

    Lineup tonight ( put it in PEN, no doubt in my mind)

    LF Marte
    RF Snider
    CF Cutch
    1B Jones
    2B Walker
    3B Pedro
    C McHenry
    SS Barmes
    P Wandy

    Clint will not want to go with 3 lefties in middle of the order (Jones/Snider/Pedro) and I think he feels like Walker at spot gives the lineup a bit more punch.

    No, on Podsednik. Let’s not use small sample size of stats to justify.

  87. McG says:

    Can’t wait for tonight and to be in Cincy watching the Bucs light up the scoreboard like a Christmas tree. Just wish I had my Pirates Gear here instead of storage back home. Everyone please keep me in your thoughts though because after we blow out the Reds I’m liable to get jumped like a Rangers fan in Philly.


  88. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Thanks for that link. Looks like an excellent church. A friend of mine pastors a church in Cranberry, also. Great place to build a church. The anti-type of this area. It is inspiring, believe me.

  89. Arriba Wilver says:

    Lucky–with your Cary Grant collection, did you pull out Walk Don’t Run?
    It was my introduction to Olympic Power Walking, and I saw it in the theater.

  90. Stickyweb says:


    By small sample size (let’s leave out the shuttlecock jokes at this point) I asume you mean this year’s stats. The only stats I used from this year were .387 AVG as a joke and 6SB & 1CS. All they prove is he’s not washed up at 36 years old.

    That’s why I went back to the last 2 years he played, where the OBP was for for 134 & 132 games. He’ll have a hard time getting that many games in here the rest of the year. In fact, the 19 games he’s played this year might be about what to expect from him the rest of the way if we pick him up, barring injury of course.

    Once again, all he has to be at this point is better than Elvis, which I think he demonstrably is. I’m assuming we don’t need to give up even a low-level prospect for him, right? In that case, for a paycheck and per diem, why not take a flyer on him? Then AP gets a chance to play a lot more often at AAA and learn to go the other way with an outside pitch. Or at least get a bat on it.

  91. JRay3 says:

    What an exciting weekend ahead! It is early August and thankfully I am not looking ahead to the off season or paying attention to NFL Training Camp but to three important baseball games.

    If there was ever a night for Wandy to step up and show us why he may have been the biggest piece acquired at the deadline tonight would be it!

    As Cutch said in his tweet:

    Defy the odds. We wont let history define our future. Our actions will do the talking. Our determination will will turn doubters into believers.

    I AM A BELIEVER! Now can we go ahead and just exercise the option we have on Cutch for 2012 at 14.75M that is a steal and he is a true leader!

  92. JRay3 says:

    Oops option year is 2018….

  93. LuckyNKentucky says:


    Haven’t yet, but it’s a good thought. I like that one, too. Didn’t see it in the theater though. There were 2 of his on in a row on TCM yesterday in mid-afternoon. What a waste to put those on at that time of day when nobody is watching TCM.

  94. cmat0829 says:

    Don’t disagree on Podsednik, though wonder how well he’d do in a limited role/PH/defensive replacement role and Marte insurance….. I wouldn’t be opposed to picking him up

  95. The Gunner says:

    @ Stickyweb – 74

    Looks like Hurdle had Podsednik briefly in Colorado in 2008 so maybe you guys are on to something. Presley goes down to get ready to help the Bucs out after September 1. They still need to improve & solidify their starting pitching.

    Too bad the BMTIB signed Nate McLouth in the off season instead of trying harder to keep Ryan Ludwick. I believe their salaries were the same (if not close) and Ludwick has close to 20 HRs already. How many does McLouth have (or had) for the Bucs?

    Hindsight is always 20-20 & can’t cry over spilled milk. Can’t win ‘em all!

  96. Pig Legs Robinson says:

    Of the names being bandied about who have been released recently, Podsednik has the most potential. But I would only bring him in if he can prove that he wants to play on this team and will do whatever Hurdle tells him without questioning him.

    I wouldn’t touch Bobby Abreu with a ten foot pole. He may still get on base once in a while, but has no power and a cranky old guy like him, set in his ways, would only bring poor chemistry to this happy team.

    Really, I wouldn’t mess too much more with this roster.
    Pitching-wise, I still think a healthy Chris ‘Johnny’ Leroux can be of use to this staff should anybody get hurt or just plain tank it.

  97. RobertoForever says:

    Lineup is out

    Marte, Snider, Cutch, Jones, Walker, Pedro, Hot Rod, EFWB*, Wandy

    @cmat – you were very close.

    *Everyone’s favorite whipping boy

  98. JRay3 says:

    @ RobertoForever – Pretty funny as I know he has been mine practically all season. Little surprised that the Fort is not in there as he seems to have the hot bat. Maybe think Barajas will have better chemistry with Wandy.

    Would be really nice to take game one, let us all breathe a bit and not put more pressure on the remaining games.

  99. JMB says:

    Spanish for Wandy and RB.

  100. Stickyweb says:

    So all the Fort has to do to get some playing time is learn to speak Spanish? Somebody call Rosetta Stone for crissake.

  101. JRay3 says:

    @ stickyweb- hysterical

  102. RobertoForever says:

    Ants marching


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