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Final: Brewers 12, Pirates 8

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (70-62) vs. Milwaukee Brewers (64-68)

Time: 2:10 p.m.

Site: House of Horrors

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here is the live box score.

And here is the Pirates’ lineup vs. Milwaukee RHP Yovani Gallardo

  1. Brock Holt, 2B
  2. Jose Tabata, LF
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, RF
  5. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Michael McKenry, C
  8. Josh Harrison, SS
  9. James McDonald, RHP


  1. CV says:

    I know it’s a big “if” but what do you do with Holt when Walker comes back if he continues to hit like he did in AAA? Can he play ss? (and yes, I’d drop this in the Nice Problem to Have bucket)

  2. JAL says:


    Holt can play SS, thought not a strong SS. When walker back Holt will be on the bench as PH and will start a few games.

  3. Thundercrack says:

    I wonder if Clint and the FO read DK’s tweets and comments on sulia.

    Clint probably no, the FO probably yes.

    Go Brock! But I hope that with Harrison at short he doesn’t cause some innings to extend longer than they should and JMac throw more pitches.

  4. Thundercrack says:

    Clint told the pregame media gathering that last night Brock was instructed to take pitches until he got a strike. He told the reporters to not get too excited about the at-bat.

  5. bobhasis says:

    IMO, there has been NO ONE in any Pirate game that has played with more pure enthusiasm
    than Josh Harrison this year. NO ONE!!!
    So today he makes the starting line-up – in the eighth spot and Tabby bats second. That should be reversed, and Presley is being punished – in a petty spiteful manner by CH because of his horrific AB with the bases loaded. If CH was consistent with that thinking, Barmes would have played 50 per cent fewer games this year.

    Then we have Gaby (who offers nothing) a weak right handed bat, against Gallardo a right handed pitcher, who is worse than Presley, batting fifth.

    And Eric Fryer who supposedly has a laser which Barajas and Fort do not, is sitting out, so as to allow more basepath freedom for the speed of the Brewers.

    CH has lost all semblance of logic and reason with his lineups, unless he is being dictated to by NH. They are now in panic mode!

    My love and loyalties are being tested once again. I guess I’ll take my Xanax before today’s game, instead of waiting for the Brewers 5th stolen base.

  6. 19 Years and Counting says:

    I’m curious-are the Brewers one of the bad teams that we should be beating, or are they one of the bad teams that arent’ really a bad team that it’s ok to lose to like San Diego

  7. JRay3 says:

    Unlike last year’s collapse which was a fast free fall, this is starting to feel like a very slow painful bleed.

    Can J-Mac build off his last start? Can Holt inject some life in this lineup which has failed to take advantage of two mediocre pitchers thus far in the series. Can we ever throw a base stealer out?

    A lot to be answered today, but playoff teams can not get swept at this stage of the season against sub .500 teams.

    Go Bucs!

  8. LuckyNKentucky says:

    You’re so right, JRay.

  9. JRay3 says:

    @ Lucky – hope you and your better half enjoyed the dinner last night! You picked a great evening, as you did not miss much from the PBC.

  10. radio wave says:

    Another where will the hits come from Sunday lineup.
    Will Jmac have to spin a shutout to get a win today?
    Can we get one win in the HOH?

  11. Chico says:


    Completely agree about the lineup — a total mess. I’m fine with Holt getting the start, but batting leadoff? He’s guaranteed the most at bats as it is — more than McCutchen, more than Alverez and so on… Yeesh.

  12. bobhasis says:

    The reconciliations to failure will continue in a variety of thoughts and words, which we’ll read right here today.

    How about failed and flawed leadership (FO, NH and CH)
    Poor lineup choices
    Poor in-game decisions and strategies.
    Inadequate skill level at certain positions. (You can name them.)
    Many of them do not know how to play the game. (Choose here too)
    No exertion or hustle.
    Because of bad contracts signed, we were forced to endure mediocrity (or worse).
    Unwillingness on the part of FO to move quickly on (or recognize or rectify) their original blunders.

    But all is not lost – the team will show a handsome profit for a bottom line

  13. Dave says:

    Holt better get a hit or he might not see the field ever again.

  14. Patrick(RI) says:

    Excellent! Now CH can use Barmes to pinch hit against Axford.

  15. Drew71 says:

    Yes. And Barrbbas to pinch run.

  16. Drew71 says:

    Lineup could be worse. I was gonna throw a party. Barmes and Barrabbas sitting.

    They could play Huntingrton for all I care if they would sit those two more often.

    Besides. He kinda looks like the prototype for shortstop.

    Or batboy.

  17. Patrick(RI) says:

    Agreed, but I intended some irony, as CH pinch hit for Barmes last two times he faced Axford, even though Barmes has two homers and a walk in his thee at bats vs. Afford.

  18. JMB says:


  19. Dave G says:

    Bucs lead 1-0 after 1/2 inning. Gabby singles in Cutch from second.

  20. Dave G says:

    Gaby… sorry…

  21. JRay3 says:

    Tailor made DP ball and instead a 22nd error…this team is baffling.

  22. JMB says:

    Shizzle sticks

  23. JRay3 says:

    Instead of 2 out nobody on, a 3 run jack by Braun and already down 2 without an out registered.

  24. Reading says:

    The lead lasted about 7 pitches.

  25. JRay3 says:

    J-Mac gives up a leadoff walk, error, bomb, great start today boys.

  26. Dave G says:


    Braun with a three run rocket to left. 3-1 Brewers, no outs, bottom 1st.

  27. Dave G says:

    That ball hit the front of the third level in left field. Got all of it.

  28. JRay3 says:

    Don’t look now but the Brewers are nipping at the Pirates heels for third place in the Central.

    I hope #HistoryWillBeMade, however I just hope it is the good kind.

  29. Reading says:

    Two on nobody out, as opposed to two outs nobody on, always spells trouble- e.g., Bottom of 8th in Game 7 1960 WS.

  30. JRay3 says:

    Just announced, Braun homer 458 feet, just missed it huh

  31. Drew71 says:

    I see your irony. I was raising you with my stoopidity.

    Sitting at the beach with my oldest. Pirates can’t ruin THIS day.

    Well. Maybe they can.

    Taking some nice beach pictures. Maybe I’ll change my avatar.

    Oh. Wait. Nevermind.

  32. The Gunner says:

    @ Bob

    Yep, they are in panic mode. JMac ought to be ashamed of himself.

  33. Drew71 says:

    And at least it was Braun.

    We like him SO much.

  34. JRay3 says:

    At least Clint inserted the catcher that can hit into the lineup today.

  35. Dave G says:

    Fort launchess one out to left field and it’s 3-2 Brewers

  36. Drew71 says:

    Oh I forgot.

    Dejan. I’ll explain to you later what a “beach” is.

  37. Nancy52 says:

    House of Horrors indeed!!!

  38. JohninOshkosh says:

    Milwaukee’s Drunker Park: Where dreams go to die.

  39. JRay3 says:

    The .185 hitting #8 hitter just goes deep to center and we give the run right back.

    Four straight K’s for J-Mac but mixed with backstop throws and middle of the plate fastballs.

  40. Dave G says:

    Rookie Bianchi hits one out to straightaway canter field as Cutch watches it sail.

    4-2 Brewers

  41. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Still early, fellas and gals. Still early. We’re due to nail Gallardo and we’ve outhit them 3-2. Had to change that when Bianchi lauched his HR. Big bullpen and no reason to stay with someone too long today.


    Great time last night. Thanks for asking. Sorry to see Hanny lose that one. He’s been one of the constants in all this up and down madness this season.

  42. Dave G says:

    Last 5 batters for Brewers:

    HR – K – K -K – K – HR

  43. Dave G says:

    Too many typos for me today. Had all my lower teeth pulled the other day and the meds are powerful.

  44. TDB1977 says:

    When do they pull McDonald?

  45. Dave G says:

    OK Hurdle. JMac must go… NOW.

  46. Reading says:

    Not concerned since these are just weak basically warning track shots just barely clearing the wall- basically Wrigley basket shots. JMac’s the man. I want him pitching Game 7.

  47. TDB1977 says:

    McDonald doesn’t deserve another start this year. He has blown up big time the second half of the season.

  48. JRay3 says:

    Well it appears it was “free get a HR” at the ballpark today.

    The first nine Milwaukee Brewer hitters will receive a HR to their season stat total courtesy of the Pittsburgh Pirates pitching staff

  49. Dave G says:

    JMac stays in the game vrs Braun.

    Braun k’s.

    6-2 Brewers after 2 innings.

  50. Reading says:

    Really like the “You hit, you play!” Root Sports commercial.

  51. Dave G says:

    Tabata in perfect pickoff position as he scoots to second on a passed ball.

  52. Dave says:

    10-18 in the last 28 going on 10-19. Is it a collapse yet Dejan?

  53. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Seems like Gallardo isn’t throwing much better. We have to get some runs.

  54. JohninOshkosh says:

    Hey Lucky:

    Did not have a chance yesterday to wish you congratulations. Hope my wife and I make it to 40!

  55. Reading says:

    There are three things that can happen when JMac pitches and two of them are bad: walk, home run, and strikeout. Raise the Jolly Roger.

  56. JMB says:

    Forty — Fort!!

  57. Reading says:

    Maybe if you hit you do play! At least once or twice a week.

  58. Dave G says:

    Fort knocks in two more with a bases loaded single to left. 6-4 Brewers.

  59. Dave says:

    McHenry’s 3 RBI’s are 1 fewer than Barajas had in the entire month of August. Good thing Hurdle likes his vets out there.

  60. Reading says:

    Had Harrison gotten on, I hope JMac was a decoy in the on-deck circle.

  61. The Gunner says:

    The Fort gets JMac two more runs / I hope he doesn’t give them back. If he does, I agree with TDB1977.

  62. JMB says:

    we’ve all seen enuff

  63. JRay3 says:

    Extra pitchers available with the September call-ups and Clint waits until 8 runs are scored, 4 home runs given up to make a change. He is asleep at the wheel. Another second half meltdown on his watch.

  64. Dave G says:

    Gomez hits Brewers’ 4th home run today (in bottom of the 3rd). 8-4 Brewers.

  65. Reading says:

    Save that pen. Let JMac work his way out of this. It’s not like the Brewers are barrelling up the ball or anything. Things even out.

  66. The Gunner says:

    JMac’s performance is deplorable, deplorable, deplorable. I don’t want to see him again this year.

  67. JAL says:

    Didn’t know home run derby was still going on.

  68. Jandy says:

    Hey Lucky, I see congratulations are in order!

  69. Dave G says:

    Of course, Hurdle was leaving JMac in there to try to build his confidence a little.If so, I’m sure that 4th home run really accomplished that.

    Either that or he was trying to save the bullpen.

    Leroux in to pitch.

  70. Arriba Wilver says:

    Not barreling up the ball? Reading, do you have any extra of that stuff you’re on? :-)

  71. Boise Bucco says:

    Well on the plus side, JMac’s set for 8 innings of 1-hit ball in his next outing…

  72. TCB says:

    Padres and Brewers absolutely own the Bucs this year. It will soon be 10 of the last 12 losses in the last 4 weeks. UGH.

  73. Jandy says:

    And Brock shows them how it’s done

  74. Reading says:

    Time for Cutch to hammer one out!

  75. Jandy says:

    The little guy are fine, it’s our big boys that aren’t hitting.

  76. Reading says:

    Or weakly ground into a 6-4-3. Cutch needs a day off.

  77. The Gunner says:

    @ Lucky

    So Lucky, what is your opinion on what ails the Buccos?

  78. Jandy says:

    are you kdding me???

  79. Boise Bucco says:

    Wow really?


  80. Reading says:

    I just hope we don’t peak too early. Got to save some of this great pitching for October.

  81. The Gunner says:

    Jandy……………they are looking like the Buccos of the last 19 years, aren’t they?

  82. Jandy says:

    again I ask, are you kidding me????

  83. JMB says:

    12-17 sure doesnt look like an “absolute lock” any longer.

    Can this team play .414 ball for the month of Sept?

  84. Jandy says:

    Gunner, they sure are :(

  85. JRay3 says:

    And there is the 116th stolen base against us…I can’t remember the last time we threw a runner out….Bradenton maybe? When Tony Pena was behind the dish?

    The Brewers look like a playoff caliber team more likely to make a run.

  86. pattonbb says:

    Congrats to Brock Holt on his 1st hit. Hope you get many more, this year.

    Gallardo goes yard? Maybe that will be this year’s seminal moment.

    Brewers up by 5 and stealing bases? Can’t blame them, but Fryer isn’t going to fix that. He barely threw out anyone at Indy. People ran all over him. Sanchez is the only one with a decent arm.

  87. Reading says:

    A triple play would really be nice right about now.

  88. The Gunner says:


    I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo disgusted with the Bucs, it is a repeat of last year.

    We just put on the NFL Network that is how POed we are at these clowns. There must be many internal problems with this team in addition to their consistent ineptitude between the white lines.

  89. Jandy says:

    nice strike out…couldn’t have picked a better batter!

  90. Drew71 says:

    Somebody pass me a beer.

    And another day of whine and Strohses.

    (It’s Milwaukee and that’s the best I got.)

  91. Jandy says:

    Gunner, i sure with I knew what the problem was with this team.

  92. Jandy says:

    Drew, I had a beer or three last night…looks like the same for tonight…another friggin hit. ::sigh::

  93. JRay3 says:

    # 117 and counting, how many have occurred where we don’t even make a throw…Hey NH, CH maybe you would like to address this problem?

    Just packing it in, just horrific.

  94. Jandy says:

    wow…just wow

  95. Dave G says:

    Brewers 11 runs on 9 hits.

    A single is as good as a double against these Pirates. Can’t stop em stealing.

  96. Jandy says:

    can we just give them the game and go home?

  97. Reading says:

    We need an Ump warning now.

  98. Dave G says:

    Hart HBP back of the helmet by Leroux.

    No control problems here.

  99. pattonbb says:

    Now we hit Hart? Because they’re beating out teeth in? How embarrassing.

    Garrett Jones can thank Leroux for the ball he’s about to catch in his ear hole.

  100. Reading says:

    Pirates need a pitcher, not a belly itcher.

  101. Dave G says:

    @ patton: That’s why no warning was given by the ump. He’s giving the Brewers a chance to retaliate first.

  102. Jandy says:

    Nice Gaby!

  103. pattonbb says:

    They deserve a chance to retaliate, and there’s no doubt in my mind they will. Maybe waiting for Cutch.

  104. Dave G says:

    Gaby with a two-run homer. It’s now 11-6 Brewers.

  105. Reading says:

    5-0 now.

  106. LuckyNKentucky says:


    It’s my wife that deserves the congrats! Where have you been, anyway, young lady? You missed all the dog chatter the other day with Drew and how to cook poodles, etc.


    I think they’ve put too much pressure on themselves and are making bad choices, at the plate, on the mound, on the bases and even in the field and in the dugout sometimes. I believe baseball is still a game and should be approached that way. Give 100% to win, all the time and go from there. We have more talent now than we’ve had in 15-20 years and it has to come through. Hurdle may not act like it, but he has to feel some pressure, too. Relax and play the “game”. We may not be better than some of these teams, but we’re at least as good.

  107. Jandy says:

    Lucky, I’m sure both of you deserve congrats.
    Sorry about being absent…was it Burgettstown all day Friday for the concert…then yesterday had a lot of company. Have some coming again today. Last picnic of the summer, you know.
    Not sure i want to know about cooking poodles UGH! lol

  108. Jandy says:

    and Holt with another hit up the middle. Go ahead ump, screw him on the walk, you jackwagon.

  109. Jandy says:

    and Holt with another base hit up the middle. Go ahead ump, screw him on the walk, you jackwagon.

  110. Dave G says:

    Holt with his first RBI- singles in a run to make it 11-7.

  111. Jandy says:

    oops sorry duplicate comment

  112. pattonbb says:

    Holt can hit.

  113. Dave G says:

    Jandy- you’re in stereo!

  114. Reading says:

    Dude looks like a leadoff hitter to me. Move him to short when Walker is ready.

  115. Reading says:

    4-0 now.

  116. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Clint surprised me. I didn’t think Holt would see the starting lineup. He’s been hot for 3 weeks, albeit in AAA. Another 3 weeks wouldn’t hurt. This game is not over yet.

  117. Jandy says:

    Lucky, I was thinkin the same thing, but was afraid to type it…didn’t want to jinx them!

  118. Parrothead01 says:

    There is not a worse hitter in all baseball, with runners in scoring position that Tabata.

  119. Drew71 says:

    You all know this is Dejan’s fault, right?

  120. Jandy says:

    Wilson lookin ok

  121. Reading says:

    Okay, everybody hits!

  122. Jandy says:

    Drew, yup!

  123. Jandy says:


  124. Reading says:

    3-0 now.

  125. TDB1977 says:

    Going to each game against the Astros beginning tomorrow. There is no way I can see a sweep at the hands of the Astros. Is there?

  126. Jandy says:

    company is here! Later all..go bucs!!

  127. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Hope yunz enjoy this holiday, picnic weekend. Drew sent his danged hurricane and his wife’s incontinent poodle up here. It hasn’t rained here in 3 weeks and the warning sirens went off last night. Drew is layin’ on the beach, marinating vegetables, cooking salmon and watching a Pirate comeback and we’re stuck in the house. Thanks, Drew. (I don’t like salmon, anyway, but it’s better than poodle). :(

  128. Dave says:

    I thought we had some decent pitching at AAA? Leroux looked terrible like the Leroux of old, whenever Wilson throws a pitch in the strike zone it gets hit, McPherson didn’t look good the other night, Locke didn’t look good last season.

  129. I absolutely HATE it when Josh Harrison is a short. He is always a bobble waiting to happen. He just messed up that automatic doubleplay.

  130. JRay3 says:

    Cardinals lose 3 of 4 to Nats with loss today, and we are on pace to one up them with potential sweep and losing a half game on them.

  131. TDB1977 says:

    Will Presley just watch 3 straight strikes go by, like he did yesterday?

  132. TDB1977 says:

    So, he watches two go right by and takes a cut at the third one.

  133. Touch Down Baptized in 77,

    Enjoy the Astro games the next 3 days.

    My voice will join you in two.

    And I’ll be there again Saturday with my 58 limping people.

  134. Boise Bucco says:

    Offense looked pretty good today, at least from the scoresheet

  135. Chuck H says:

    If the Bucs had scored 8 runs yesterday, it would have been a win. Why is it when we hit a homer, there’s nobody on base, and when the other team hits one there is usually
    one or two on? Does McDonald have a memory lapse? He forgets from one game to the next, how to pitch. Next game he pitches, which might be next season, he’ll allow
    2 hits in 7 innings. Anyhow, I don’t know how the Pirates have as good a record as they have without any hitters.

  136. Bizrow says:

    Nuttin good

    We got swept

  137. JRay3 says:

    Well that was an embarrassing trip to Milwaukee playing “meaningful” baseball. Another sweep at the hands of a sub .500 team. Clint has his hands full trying to get this turned around.

    August 11-19
    September 0-2

    This looks to be a struggle just to get 82.

  138. Boise Bucco says:

    Who’re they DFA’ing tonight?


  139. The Gunner says:

    The Bucs really stink – they’ll be lucky to finish at .500

  140. The Gunner says:

    @ Boise Bucco – 141

    They should DFA most of this freakin’ team / what a bunch of #@*&!!!

  141. Dave G says:

    I don’t rant that often, but I’m in the mood after this one.

    * McDonald was clearly struggling from the start today. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Hurdle insists on letting his struggling starters face that one or two more batters who tack on extra runs before he yanks them. He claims that he is giving them a chance to work their way out of trouble, but instead he winds up letting them re-enforce everything that they are doing wrong.

    * With call-ups, there are now 9 guys in the pen. Yanking someone early is no longer an issue, at least as it pertains to stretching his relievers.

    * The bad at-bats late in the game are a non-issue today. The Bucs had 8 runs. That should win most ball games. This loss is completely on the pitching.

    * To those who pray for 82 wins: Not good enough. Why? The first half of the season the Pirates were a winning team. Yes, they are still 7 games over .500. But for the second half of the season, they are, by far a LOSING team. And teams that improve from season to season usually find their strides in the SECOND half of the season, not the first half. The Pirates are regressing. They are NOT improving.

    * This team had a magical chemistry earlier this year and it was blasted to smithereens by the FO. These guys were all about having each other’s backs. They wanted to succeed together, with the line-up they had. Disagree if you want to, but this team dearly misses McGehee and Lincoln, and not only from an on-field standpoint. When you consider all of the acquisitions plus the guys they gave up, it’s either a wash or a slight downgrade.

    * If the Pirates’ catchers are not going to throw out runners, then get the pitchers to work on their pick-off moves. They clearly need to compensate somehow.

    * Is it fair that we do not criticize Cutch for having another horrendous second-half funk, but it’s ok to criticize the pitchers for the same thing?

    * How were these three games against the Brewers any less important than the previous series against the Cardinals? Every game matters EQUALLY.

    * Sadly, my preseason prediction of 80 wins is looking more and more like a possibility. Man, I pray that I’m wrong.

    * All that said, the Pirates are still just a game and a half out of a wild card spot. Based on the way this team is completely wasting opportunity after opportunity, is there anyone out there who feels confident that they can make it happen?

    DK: You were underpaid for this rant, Dave!

  142. Milo Hamilton says:

    @Dave G

    Well said sir.

  143. Nancy52 says:

    I think I hear an echo @Dave G

    Yes, I’m Negative Nancy after that game.

  144. Milo Hamilton says:

    Remember, there will be no collapse this year. Not this time. This team is different.

    11-19 since August 1st.

    Yeah, real different.

    DK: Month to go.

  145. LuckyNKentucky says:

    Thank God, a month to go and no more Bernie Brewer.

  146. Boise Bucco says:

    @Lucky–no more Bernie, no more Molina, no more Padres, no more Orioles–who else kills the Bucs–OH YEAH THE BRAVES IN OCTOBER…

  147. Thundercrack says:

    Wasn’t a big reason for last year’s collapse was that there were so many injuries?

    And let’s say we kept McGehee and Lincoln. Should we have not made any trades at the deadline to improve the team? Should we have kept those two and traded more prospects?

    All of course with a big concern about the team’s chemistry.

  148. Dave G says:


    But did we really improve the team?

    Judging by the record since the trade deadline, you’d have to say ‘no.’

  149. The Gunner says:

    We, the faithful fans, are pretty damn mad about what has happened during this year’s swoon. It is still hard to believe that as stinky as the Bucs have been, there are still so close in the wild card race. This week will tell the story – if the Astros and Cubs clean their clocks, the party is really over for 2012.

    They need to shut JMac (or is it JSuc) down for 2012 – he’s absolutely terrible!!!!

  150. JohninOshkosh says:

    This team will win 82 games.

  151. I think “swoon” is now official, and putting it nicely.

  152. The idea that this team’s 20th consecutive season of futility can be laid to the loss of McGehee and Lincoln is like saying the signing of Bubby Brister explains how the Steelers won 6 titles.

    Something is death-stench rotten at the core of this organization and has been for a very long time now.

  153. Dave G says:

    @ Officer:

    I only offered that the team chemistry is not the same since the trade deadline.

    Just one of many factors of the ‘swoon.’

    Most alarming thing of all is: How the hell can the FO let this happen two years in a row? How?

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