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Final: Cardinals 9, Pirates 1

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (13-9) vs. St. Louis Cardinals (13-8)

Starters: LHP Jonathan Sanchez vs. RHP Lance Lynn

Time: 8:15 p.m.

Site: Busch Stadium, St. Louis

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Travis Snider, RF
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, 1B
  5. Neil Walker, 2B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. J. Sanchez, LHP

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel is moonlighting at the Bowling Hall of Fame.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Let’s open The Window…What’ll ya have? What’ll ya have?
    As always this is just for fun and entertainment purposes.

    Max “wager” is 100 units on each separate line.
    All “wagers” must be divisible by 5.
    Play as many or a few as you’d like.

    Please put your replies in this dialogue box, makes it much easier for me to “book-keep” that way.


    Line #1
    Total INNINGS PITCHED by Jeanmar Gomez in tonight’s game
    Line is 2.25

    Line #2
    Total HOMERUNS hit by Pedro Alvarez against the Cardinals this weekend
    Line is 1.5

    Line #3
    Total WINS by the Pirates against the Cardinals this weekend
    Line is 1.5

    Anyone can play, and everyone should try!

    Thanks to all for playing and good luck!!

    fellocolonial ~ 600
    theplanisworking ~ 600
    Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) ~ 550
    tdb1977 ~ 500
    RobertoForever ~ 490
    bman ~ 440
    KJX ~ 425
    Frankie ~ 400
    Jason81 ~ 400
    radio wave ~ 375
    cmat0829 ~ 350
    JohninOshkosh ~ 350
    Keith ~ 300
    Pucknutz ~ 300
    Steve J. Smith ~ 300
    TCB ~ 275
    EricBowser ~ 250
    Boise Bucco ~ 200
    JoeyBats ~ 175
    Joey Mellons ~ 160
    JaxBuc ~ 130
    JUCOFan ~ 125
    JRay3 ~ 100
    Lad9 ~ 100
    PetroSteel ~ 100
    Karen22 ~ 75
    JD ~ 50
    mlrgenuine ~ 50
    TJ ~ 50
    tmp444 ~ 25
    Chico ~ EVEN
    Dadtackular ~ EVEN
    DemonDachshund ~ EVEN
    Ghost ~ EVEN
    kr70 ~ EVEN
    Nate83 ~ EVEN
    pants-n-at ~ EVEN
    stickyweb ~ EVEN
    TK ~ EVEN
    blazer ~ EVEN
    Ruffian706 ~ -40
    cherokee23 ~ -50
    Dcpinpgh ~ -100
    Kevin S ~ -100
    steelercrazy ~ -100
    OZ ~ -150
    Brandie ~ -175
    Arriba Wilver ~ -225
    Dom ~ -275
    cosmo ~ -300
    Kevin ~ -300
    pattonbb ~ -300
    stuart66 ~ -500
    Jandy ~ -700
    JMB ~ -800
    Bizrow ~ -1000

    ***First Place at the end of APRIL will win:***

    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:

    Fourth Place at the end of the season will win:

    Fifth Place at the end of the season will win:

  2. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    #1: 100 Over

    #2: 100 Under

    #3: 50 Over

  3. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    -Last night on MLB Network, they did a segment on trading Stanton of the Marlins. They picked 5 teams that would/could/should trade for him. Pirates were one of the teams Dan Plesac picked and offered Marte and either Cole or Taillon to get the job done.

    -I would love to see G. Stanton in a Bucco uniform. Imagine him batting behind Cutch? I don’t see this happening of course, but it is always nice to see others predict these things outside of all of us.

    -BTW, my trade pieces preferences would be Marte and Taillon and yes, I would pull the trigger on that deal.

  4. Cmat0829 says:

    Can i have 100 units as follows:

    1. Under. He may go 2 but I think less.
    2. Under. I think he gets one. Happy tp be wrong.
    3. Over. 2 of 3 for the redhot BUCS.

  5. Cmat0829 says:

    Wow. That’s an interesting trade. I don’t do it. Marte Is special and so is Taillon. Both are under control and affordable for a while.

  6. Between McCutchen, Stanton and Alvarez you would have the potential for 90-100 home-runs per season combined.
    Unfortunately you’d also have the potential for 600 combined strikeouts.

  7. NMR says:

    I’d do that trade, although I think it is woefully short on reality.

    Shin Soo Choo and Chase Headley were requiring more than that last year. Both aren’t nearly the player Stanton is AND come with at least half as many years of control.

    Add Polanco or Hansen plus another top 15 prospect, most likely.

  8. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t do it, either, but check back at the deadline.

  9. NMR says:

    You have to think there is a little voice in the back of Jonathan Sanchez’ mind telling him he’s pitching for his major league career tonight.

    Can’t imagine who would take him on as anything more than AAA filler after another failed start.

    Best of luck, Jonathan

  10. Arriba Wilver says:

    I believe, according to DK’s sources, they could have had Headley for less last year.

  11. Arriba Wilver says:

    An extra player, but not Marte AND Taillon or Cole and the extra player.

  12. Karen22 says:


    I think you mean Jonathan Sanchez. But I do believe, sadly, he and Gomez are pretty interchangeable (and not in a good way)…

  13. NMR says:

    Possibly. Nobody knows what that elusive “third piece” actually was.

    And even that was just a rumor, of course.

    DK: No, it wasn’t.

  14. Karen22 says:

    Oh, forgot my wager.

    Line #1: 100 spring tulips on the OVER

    2. Petey’s locked in. 50 on the OVER

    3. 50 on the OVER. Sun is shining. I’m optimistic.

  15. Arriba Wilver says:

    True, but I thought DK indicated that they didn’t need to include Marte AND Taillon or Cole. Water over the dam.

    DK: We could have a “Water Over The Dam” thread every day and clear the way for actual discussion of actual current events.

  16. Thundercrack says:

    I thought it was Lincoln, the draft pick, and a third piece.

  17. Thundercrack says:

    Here’s one reason why I don’t do it.

    Marte was signed by the Pirates – and the ever so great Rene Gayo.
    He’ll develop in the organization and as part of the Pirates’ team. When he nears or reaches free agency, I hope he feels a sense of loyalty and is comfortable here. This will help us in re-signing him.

    Stanton hates what is happening in Florida. If he comes here I think he just puts in his time until he can hit the open market and get as much money as possible. Which I think he is doing now anyway. (plus he keeps reading how great he is and how every team wants him)

    DK: Gayo has signed six of the team’s top 10 prospects, and he’s done so at a tiny fraction of the cost the draft guys have flushed down the commode.

    Your sarcastic reference up there is wholly warranted.

    You have a problem with me, take it out on me.

    Man, so, so sick of this stuff.

  18. NMR says:

    Doesn’t it seem even a little funny that NO other team swooped in and got him if the price was that low?

    THAT was the best offer the Padres could get for an MVP candidate with 2 1/2 years of control?

    Doesn’t make the slightest bit of sense.

  19. Thundercrack says:

    Well DK this actual discussion started and is rooted in a current event: the story Nor Cal saw on the MLB Network last night about Stanton and what it would take for the Pirates to get him.


  20. Arriba Wilver says:

    Sounds right. All I remember is it wasn’t Marte and Cole or Taillon. THAT was the rumor, which DK debunked IMHO.

  21. Bizrow says:

    Line 1 – 100 UNDAH
    Lines 2 and 3 100 OVAH

    Thanks Playoffs

  22. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yep. Isn’t this the game thread?

    DK: Sure is, but this stuff is everywhere. Every morning, Wakeup Call thread gets off to great start, occasional new contributors pop in, different topics … then about 9:30 a.m. or so begins to devolve into the same stuff. And everyone else gets drowned out.

    Not going to lie. That’s frustrating.

  23. stickyweb says:

    OVER on all 3 lines for 100 each.

    The only one to worry about is Pedro, and I’m hoping for some Daydro Sat. & Sun.

  24. Bizrow says:

    That’s why I went Under on Line 1

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  25. Lad9 says:

    Awesome lines! Lets go for:

    Line 1 100 on the under
    Line 2 50 on the over
    Line 3 50 on the under

    Thank you Playoffs. Go Buccos! I will be happy to lose on line 3….

  26. NMR says:

    I write a freakin’ book about Travis Snider, the baseball player, seamingly defying the outdated scouting reports Dejan CONTINUES to reference and get no response.

    I make one passing comment about a trade rumor and Dejan jumps all over it.

    And he’s the one that thinks WE can’t let this stuff go. Look in the mirror, man.

    DK: Didn’t see post you’re referencing yet, NMR. Was with Penguins most of afternoon.

    Didn’t “jump all over” anything. Merely said it wasn’t a rumor. It wasn’t. It was fact.

  27. NMR says:

    Do as I say, not as I do, AW.

    Check that. Don’t even DO as I say.

  28. JRay3 says:

    Well good afternoon to the window. Interesting note, this will be the third time this season the Pirates go for a four game winning streak, hoping tonight is the night they make good on it.

    On to the Three Play Friday. The first line centers on Jeanmar Gomez who has made four appearances and has gone over in three of them as he has pitched 2.1, 2.1, 1.2 and 3 innings in his four times on the mound. He is in line tonight to follow Sanchez who has been awful the entire season. However, Sanchez is probably pitching for his career tonight and has to be motivated to make it through at least five. I will side with a highly motivated individual who knows the writing maybe on the wall.

    Line 1 – 100 on the UNDER

    The second line is on hot-hitting Pedro Alvarez. Alvarez has hit 4 HR’s this season and they have come in the last two series, two against Philly and two against Atlanta. However those were both four game series. Add to that the fact El Toro failed to hit one versus St. Louis is the abbreviated set at PNC, and the numbers do not yet support the over. I like to play the numbers.

    Line 2 – 100 on the UNDER

    The last line is on wins in this series. Quick glance at the pitching match-ups tell you quickly who will be favored. In game one it is Sanchez vs. Lynn- Advantage Cardinals (heck anybody vs Sanchez is advantage opposition). In game two we see Wandy vs. Westbrook, the Bucs own Westbrook – Advantage Pirates. In the finale we see Locke vs. Miller who is 3-1 with a 1.44 ERA- Advantage Cardinals.

    Line 3 – 100 on the UNDER

    Thanks playoffs, and Let’s Go Bucs!

  29. Dadtackular says:

    Line 1
    100 over
    Line 2&3
    100 under

  30. NMR says:

    Not calling you a liar at all, Dejan. Not even close.

    But you have to understand how somebody in my position questions that as “fact”, don’t you? How many trade proposals get floated every year compared to how many are actually real?

    Put yourself in my position. Doesn’t it seem the least bit fishy that you are the only one in the world who knew of that trade proposal? One that seems terribly low for a guy of Headley’s caliber and contract? One that every contender could’ve matched with their own farm system?

    You have to understand the skepticism, right?

    DK: Yes. I actually am, too, far more often than not. Let’s just say this was a pretty rare event. Absolute, hard fact.

    Meet me and TC for the coffee.

  31. NMR says:

    Anyways, it certainly wasn’t meant to be a personal or professional attack on your credibility.

    Headed out. Have a good weekend, all.

  32. Thundercrack says:

    If people decide not to comment on the new topics is that the fault of anyone?

    It seems like people are free to offer up their thoughts and topics and then see where it goes.

    But how on a print blog do things get ‘drowned out’?

  33. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    -Looks like a hit a nerve…..sorry, all, just thought the Stanton thing was pretty cool info…

  34. Arriba Wilver says:


  35. Three Play is here!!!! Playoffs, I would like to do the following:

    100 on the UNDER for line 1

    100 for the OVER on line 2

    100 for the OVER on line 3

    Go Bucs! Pluck the Cards!

  36. Thundercrack says:

    Sick of this type of stuff too.

    Don’t have a problem with you.
    Don’t have a problem with Gayo.

    DK: Then I owe you coffee. I’ll explain why that one struck a particular nerve.

  37. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I have no idea how you can stay on top of all this…

  38. Arriba Wilver says:

    You just brought up a current event, Ryan. It does get frustrating, and confusing.

  39. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Cool info on Geyo with the 6 of the top 10 prospects. But of course he’s famous for other reason on this blog. I won’t open that can of worms.

  40. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I actually thought it was a cool concept that those guys were doing. I get frustrated as well with some of the topics brought up on these threads. Guess I’ll save the trade rumor stuff that I see or hear to myself.

  41. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t have a problem with you either DK.

    I’d like a grande skim extra hot salted caramel mocha please.

    DK: You’re welcome, too. Drink will be waiting.

  42. Bizrow says:

    From Dejan’s responses, there is something we do not know.

    And that’s all I’ll say about that, except

    Hey Dejan, me and AW like coffee ;-)

    DK: Pull up chairs. This is overdue.

  43. Thundercrack says:

    Me, DK and NMR meeting for coffee.

    Not THAT should get a time slot on WPXI.

    (and yes, I feel like I need to include this: :-) )

  44. Bizrow says:

    + 2

  45. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I dont like coffee, can we find an alternative?

  46. Thundercrack says:

    You started this Nor Cal!

  47. Bizrow says:

    Ok, thanks for the invite.

    We just can’t call it a you know what….

    Coffee is on me

  48. Bizrow says:

    Yes, anything is possible with lunatics/friends

  49. Arriba Wilver says:

    So me, the guy who’s supporting DK’s reporting, doesn’t get invited? (make a mental note)


    DK: Actually, Biz included you. Look above.

  50. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Ha Ha…without any intentions.

  51. Drew71 says:

    What the frik is THAT?

    I thought you were all drinking coffee.

    THAT sounds like some liquid they put in finger bowls in hoity toity dinner parties.

    I’ll toast you from afar.

    John Brandycorn Barley Wine Ale, vintage 2007, bottle conditioned, Mad River Brewing Company, Colorado.

  52. Bizrow says:

    Well, to be honest, I probably don’t very well.

    I had to laugh today, I have to “mentor” someone on doing a task, we talked, she said, well I really want to pick your brain on how you get organized, I said, look at my office, there is no organization here, you fly by the seat of your pants

    But folks help me with the list

    And they do at work as well

    So the answer might be good people???

  53. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Works for me.

  54. Bizrow says:

    But what to call it is a long time ago, many miles have been traveled

    Time for a new start with things

    Anyone know if Drew is coming into town? Last time I asked, it was dicey if he would be back in the area this season

  55. 21sthebest says:

    Alright well I’ll just have a regular coffee if that means you’d show up Drew.

    Operative phrase there is, “if you’d show up.”

  56. Drew71 says:

    And by the way.

    p*** on this get-along stuff.

    I just drove across the state, signed on, read some nice heated stuff, and I WANT TO JOIN THE FIGHT.

    But now you’re all making kissy face over coffee.

    Or whatever that liquid crapolla is that 21 drinks.

  57. Karen22 says:

    Woops…I’m all messed up! Gomez is slated to clean up the predicted mess by Sanchez? Ehhhh…I’ll stick with what I said.

  58. Karen22 says:

    Can I BYOB? I like RED (but coffee in the a.m. is a MUST)!

  59. JohninOshkosh says:


  60. pattonbb says:

    The window has not been kind to me this year. Lets see if we can keep this Bucco winning streak going, which unfortunately must mean I have to lose at the window.

    Line 1 – 100 UNDER
    Line 2 – 100 UNDER
    Line 3 – 100 OVER

  61. pattonbb says:

    Everyone’s acting like a bunch of peace loving, long-haired, hipp……oh nevermind.

  62. Bizrow says:

    + 100

    Lunatics ;-)

  63. Arriba Wilver says:

    Just think of Potatoes O’Brien, Dan.

  64. Drew71 says:

    1. Depends. When and where?

    2. Please respond.
    (I don’t want to have to write “21 hates me!”)

    3. Am I disqualified because EYE have a problem with Dejan, what with is beachphobia.

  65. Drew71 says:

    No thanks. She let herself go.

    Spuds and eyes everywhere.

  66. Bizrow says:

    But, Drew, you are my hero

    That statement hopefully is much more annoying than an emoticon

    I know I’d like to meet you, eye to eye, and tell you that you are nutz in a very good way

    I’d even bring you some cake, but it would be yellow

    Its the dachsys and things

  67. Arriba Wilver says:

    Saw it later. Actually, it’s below, but who’s counting?


  68. Bizrow says:

    Just bring you

    It will never happen

    But again, I am thankful for the invite

    I’ve met one blogger twice, and I hope we can do the same next Opening Day

  69. Arriba Wilver says:

    Nevermind, got it.

  70. Drew71 says:

    21 is. One dollar at a time. Every last stinking one.

  71. Drew71 says:

    Pretty close. If you add a smiley face, one of the poodles gets it.

  72. Drew71 says:

    Shouldn’t you all set a topic of discussion for the coffee klatch?

    How about Chase Headley?

  73. Drew71 says:

    That does it.

    21 Hates Me!

  74. Frankie says:

    75 on each

    1 over

    2 under

    3 over

  75. Pucknutz says:

    line 1 – 100 under
    line 2 -100 under
    line 3 -100 under

  76. I said on the other thread if he was going to nail us, he would have already. Another time I’m wrong. :(

  77. tcb says:

    under 75 for all 3.

  78. How about Neal Huntington?

  79. Jason81 says:


    Line #1–50 on the UNDER
    Line #2–50 on the OVER
    Line #3–100 on the OVER

  80. theplanisworking says:

    Hee Hee Hee !

    If any outsider looks at this list, and gets to Hippos Pond, they maight have me committed! (Not that that would be a bad thing………)

    America is Undefeated at Hide-and-Seek. :)

  81. Arriba Wilver says:


  82. radio wave says:

    At playoffs: I will take 50 on the underfur line 1. I will take 50 on the under for a line 2. I will take 50 on the over for line 3. Thank you. Have a great weekend.

  83. theplanisworking says:

    peace-loving, long-haired Hippos??? ;)

  84. theplanisworking says:

    Mr. Coooooooooooonelly could bring the beverages…… ;)

  85. Arriba Wilver says:


  86. Drew71 says:

    You People use emoticons 25, 30, even 50 times a day.

    Get em, Dejan.

  87. Dave G says:

    As long as he’s not driving.

  88. Drew71 says:

    I think I’m going to be sick.

    What do I have to do to get a good fight going again?!

  89. Bizrow says:

    Its yellow, as a dachsy owner

    I deal with it pretty much every morning

  90. Bizrow says:

    Discuss Hoka Hey, the Bay trade, or read NMRs posts and choose the opposite

    Or complain about yellow cake

  91. KJX says:

    #1: 50 over
    #2: 100 Under
    #3: 50 over

  92. Arriba Wilver says:


  93. Bizrow says:

    I would think

    A completely open forum?

    Personally, I’d listen to the guy that has the worst job in the world speak first, then we could ask questions

    And the guy with the worst job in the world would probably answer as long as he could

    So, meeting wise, we need to choose wisely

  94. Thundercrack says:

    Here is something to stir things up again.

    Take a look at Mr. Sawchik’s latest blog post. And then look who posted a comment.

    And is Sawchik really his last name?

  95. Bizrow says:

    Crap, the blog is screwing up again, post wise

  96. theplanisworking says:

    + mucho.

  97. Bizrow says:

    Some do it just to p*** you off

    Are you going to make it home this year??

  98. Bizrow says:

    Or, might be me, ITS FRIDAY

  99. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think it’s because of the NFL Draft.

  100. Brandie says:

    Mr. Playoffs,

    May I have 50 on the over for line 1?
    May I have 25 on the under for line 2?
    May I have 75 on the over for line 3?

    Thank you.

  101. theplanisworking says:

    Hey Drew……………..

    :) ;) :D :( 8=)

  102. theplanisworking says:

    8-) too

  103. Drew71 says:

    i AM home

  104. theplanisworking says:

    I think its all the emoticons. ;)

  105. theplanisworking says:

    Any requests tonight, Miss Brandie?

  106. Drew71 says:

    What? Where?

  107. Drew71 says:

    See what you did?

  108. JHadar says:

    I guess I feel this way. If you put a blog out there and invite everybody in the world to come and express their thoughts, opinions, feelings, and encourage conversations in the process, you are going to attract a lot of different personalities, and some with a one-note symphony: Even a troll or two, though that hasn’t been the case here very often.

    I appreciate DK’s efforts to moderate the blog and control the excesses. But having said that, I think it’s really an impossibility — human nature being what it is and all — to keep things from coming up again and again. When it does, I tend to go into hiding or to use the page down key until something I enjoy talking about comes up.

    In general though I think we have a comfortable place here where folks can drift off topic from time to time, joke around a bit, and even learn a few interesting things. I actually find myself fighting blog addiction at times because the general atmosphere in here so cordial and interesting that it keeps me from doing what I should be doing.

    I think credit for that goes to the moderator.

  109. theplanisworking says:

    Hippos arent the brightest creatures………..

  110. Brandie says:

    All The Young Dudes by Mott The Hoople.

  111. Brandie says:

    Been checking out the general organized chaos and spirited debate on the threads.

  112. Brandie says:

    My complaint about yellow cake is that there is not enough yellow cake.

  113. Brandie says:

    The tulips appreciate and endorse this message.

  114. Drew71 says:

    Ah. A Blast From The P***ed

  115. theplanisworking says:

    Ok, not familiar with Mott’s work, but anything for you. ;)

  116. JHadar says:

    Also, put me down for thinking that before the season is over Snider ought to be leading off and Marte hitting second. I think that’s Marte’s stated preference, and the adjustments Snider’s making seem to be turning him into a more prototypical lead off guy. It bears waiting to see if he sustains it though.

  117. Bizrow says:

    I think you are a very wise fellow and I enjoy reading your posts, as I do with most bloggers

    This is a kinder simpler place

    But we gotta fight with Dres

    And I don’t believe Jandy has 9 wides


  118. theplanisworking says:

    Mr. Playoffs,

    may I have the following……………….

    line 1, 50 OVER
    line 2, 100 UNDER
    line 3, 50 UNDER

    Thank You.

  119. Dadtackular says:

    Hey All,
    Driving 2 1/2 hours to go to the game tomorrow. I’m excited to see AJ pitch. Now to find tickets on stub hub… anyone want a ballpark gift?

  120. Brandie says:

    You mean Drew, though I like Dres.

  121. theplanisworking says:

    A win.

  122. Brandie says:

    Any thoughts on who might step up to spark our Battlin’ Bucs today? The thing I like about these wins is that it definitely has been a team effort, with no one, two, or three people being solely responsible.

  123. Brandie says:

    Should check em’ out. Good stuff. Or we could have anything by George Jones, may he rest.

  124. Dadtackular says:

    How about 12 k’s by AJ, HR’s by Cutch, Pedro and GI Jones, plus i catch a foul ball?

  125. theplanisworking says:

    I dont wanna be greedy………….

  126. JHadar says:

    Pedro hits well in St. Louis.

    I’m hoping that we’ll get a bunch of runs. (We may need them.)

  127. Dadtackular says:

    Good point, I’ll skip the foul ball then..

  128. Brandie says:

    If you can deliver all of that then you truly are Dadtackular!

  129. Jason81 says:

    I think it has to be Sanchez. Can’t keep having short outings and expect the offense to pick him up every time.

  130. Eric Bowser says:

    Line #1 – under 50
    Line #2 – under 100
    Line #3 – over 50

  131. theplanisworking says:

    losing way too many greats recently……..

  132. Eric Bowser says:

    Another first inning base hit for Marte… get him over and knock him in.

  133. 21sthebest says:

    Marte breaks up the no hitter with an infield single.

    Dear Clint, please don’t bunt.

  134. Brandie says:

    Time will tell whether Sanchez can pull it together or if he is just full of himself. Funny thing about time, he may not have a lot of it left if the Bucks continue to play solid ball.

  135. Eric Bowser says:

    and McCutchen fails…

  136. 21sthebest says:

    As does Cutch.

  137. Eric Bowser says:

    Jones walks… yay Marte moved over.

    Time for Pedro to knock it to outfield for Marte to score.

  138. Eric Bowser says:

    ummmm, meant Walker.

  139. Brandie says:

    He was one of a kind, imperfect but earned some level of redemption. Plan, may you use your talents to live a long, successful life. :-)

  140. Eric Bowser says:

    Well, middle-middle and HR for Cardinals’ Carpenter.

  141. theplanisworking says:

    Forgot game was on, listening to the yakkers on the draft.

    Serious question here:

    Why on earth did we ever sign Sanchez???? I mean really?

    2 HR’s given up as I type this.

  142. Eric Bowser says:

    let’s make that back-to-back HR’s…. another fat pitch for Beltran to slam.

  143. TJ says:

    Can NH go to the mound and just release Sanchez now? He was talking yesterday that he can throw any pitch to strike out a hitter because off all the movement he has. He’s doing a good job of moving the ball out of the park right now

  144. Dadtackular says:

    Sanchez starting is the reason we didn’t drive down to the game tonight. It wasn’t worth the risk. Wasn’t there ANY other alternative to him for tonight?

  145. Eric Bowser says:

    Why are my comments awaiting moderation???

  146. JHadar says:

    I feel the end of the Sanchez experiment drawing near.

  147. Eric Bowser says:

    No idea but I’m glad Huntington signed him and decided he was one of the best starters.

  148. Sanchez not going to last long tonight. And there it is.

  149. theplanisworking says:

    God, Timmons is an awful Ump…..

  150. Brandie says:

    The price was right, though not nearly enough bang for the buck, like the Yugo.

  151. Dadtackular says:

    Sanchez being ejected is the Pirates best opportunity for a comeback.

  152. Eric Bowser says:

    Sanchez sucks.. now gets thrown out with NO outs… Hurdle tossed…


  153. TJ says:

    Nice job Sanchez. PISS POOR JOB BY THE UMPIRE. WTF are you doing throwing him out of the game

  154. Line 1 is going to over now.

  155. Jason81 says:

    Anyone that took the under tonight, myself included, that was a big whoops. With an assist to the home plate up.

  156. TJ says:

    Guy has shown no control tonight and he hits someone; I think Dad might be right; could be the best thing that happens for the Pirates. Hopefully Sanchez will see a pink slip in his locker when he’s done with his early shower

  157. 21sthebest says:

    He had to be tossed.

  158. theplanisworking says:


    I just cant figure it out. Yeah, the price was right, but I mean really….

  159. Drew71 says:

    No, that’s right.

    Every Sunday. Pull down the shades and parade about in a nice sun dres.

  160. TJ says:

    This umpire just screwed the Pirates. Unfreaking believable that he tosses Sanchez.

  161. Brandie says:

    Looks like you need Melnyk to diagnose intent here. This will not light up the blog.

  162. theplanisworking says:

    Thanks Brandie!

    If only my bosses at work would let me, lol.

  163. Eric Bowser says:

    Time to release Sanchez, call up Bryan Morris to help the bullpen.

  164. Brandie says:

    Time for someone to step up and spark the team.

  165. TJ says:

    Timmons is a jerk off. He was just as much at fault for that battle with Hurdle. Needs to shut his mouth and walk away. Hate power tripping umpires

  166. TJ says:

    If he was trying to hit someone why didn’t he hit Holliday?

  167. Jason81 says:


  168. theplanisworking says:

    Fire Timmons! Fire Sanchez! Fire Huntington! Fire Ourselves !!

  169. TJ says:

    Does Gomez get tossed if he hits someone now?

  170. 21sthebest says:

    Drilled single
    At the head

    He had to be tossed. Good job by Timmons to keep the game under control.

  171. Jason81 says:

    That would officially fall in the category of “worst predicition ever” on my part. :D

  172. theplanisworking says:

    Actually, Timmons may have saved the Bucs. Sanchez would have given up about 6 more runs, so count your little blessings……..

  173. Brandie says:

    Looked good on paper, like John Elway’s face, but when you get up on it, just looks like someone let all the air out of it.

  174. TJ says:

    Nice job by Gomez to get out of that

  175. 21sthebest says:

    Why hit Holliday? Maybe Holliday’s hit was his breaking point?

  176. theplanisworking says:

    But can you judge intent?
    I know I sure cant there.

    What ever happened to a warning?

    Sorry 21, something smells……….

  177. TJ says:

    I won’t argue that; but I think umpires should be held responsible for their actions just like managers.

  178. Eric Bowser says:

    If Huntington doesn’t outright release Sanchez after this game, he’s clueless.

  179. theplanisworking says:

    I am disappointed you didnt mention the obligatory John Elway “horse” comment………..

  180. Jason81 says:

    Yeah, he really did a good job all around by continuing the argument with Hurdle and tossing him too. Really classy umpiring.

  181. TJ says:

    That makes absolutely no sense at all. If he was going to drill someone he would have drilled Holliday.

  182. Jason81 says:

    It was Sanchez that smelled for 4 batters.

  183. TJ says:

    Agree Jason; no idea what 21 is watching.

  184. theplanisworking says:

    + many

  185. Brandie says:

    Thank Jandy, or Hail Jandy. Can’t remember which.

  186. TJ says:

    He’ll likely get a 4 year extension

  187. theplanisworking says:

    in secret………….. ;)

  188. theplanisworking says:

    Thank your Hail Jandy’s ;)

  189. Brandie says:

    With apologies to descendants of SeaBiscuit.

  190. JRay3 says:

    Firstly horrible call by the Umpire who just flat out is unaware of the situation, a pitcher with zero command and zero outs in first…glad to see CH come to the defense of his team.

    But I would like to thank the umpire as he did the Bucs a huge favor, and Gomez gets out of the mess created by Sanchez. Stretch him out for next turn through rotation.

    Sanchez better be DFA’s right at conclusion of this game, get another arm up here, he has been nothing short of a train wreck an utter disaster.

    Time to come from behind again.

  191. Boise Bucco says:


    At least he only gave up 2 runs on his way out the door…maybe he could get tossed in warm-ups next time

  192. 21sthebest says:

    Can you judge intent? That’s irrelevant. It’s the ump’s decision.

  193. Brandie says:

    Double secret

  194. Jason81 says:

    You forgot Fire Bylsma! Oh, wait…that’s tomorrow night.

  195. Brandie says:

    That would be quite a feat.

  196. 21sthebest says:

    Yes. Both benches were warned.

  197. Jason81 says:

    Yeah, everyone gets really angry after line drive singles to center.

  198. 21sthebest says:

    They are held responsible. They are fined but it’s not publicized.

  199. Brandie says:

    That would be quite spectacular.

  200. theplanisworking says:

    Ok. The ump made a bad decision.
    And he was also ultra-classy by going after Hurdle like that.

    But, he probably did us a favor by tossing Sanchez. ;)

  201. 21sthebest says:

    Excuse me? I said nothing about tossing Hurdle.

  202. TJ says:

    Then your entire argument is pointless. Whats the umps decision based on? Jeez 21 your digging a hole. Just stop

  203. 21sthebest says:

    So you know what exactly sends Sanchez over the edge?

  204. Dadtackular says:


  205. theplanisworking says:

    You’re learning……….

  206. 21sthebest says:

    It’s based on his judgment. What are you talking about? Do you even know the rules?

  207. JRay3 says:

    Ok, I have accepted the fact Barmes may never hit, but he better field his position. Sloppy start.

  208. theplanisworking says:

    and Secretariat. ;)

  209. Boise Bucco says:

    Barmes needs to find a way to get tossed too

  210. Dadtackular says:

    The Cardinals tv announcers do a very good job. We get a heavy dose of them in this area.

  211. Jason81 says:

    Well, his judgement sucks. Sanchez is not known for pinpoint control. To think that he would have waited for two batters after the back-to-back HR’s to hit a guy is ridiculous.

    And don’t even bring up the ball being thrown at his head. Plenty of guys have been hit in the head without the pitcher getting tossed.

  212. theplanisworking says:


    you said he “had” to be tossed.
    He didnt “have” to.

    The ump “decisioned” to toss him.
    The ump also chose to go after Hurdle.

    Very unprofessional, and very bad decisions.

    If that ump uses that type of judgement, he needs a new line of work.

  213. theplanisworking says:

    Son, Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life! :)

  214. 21sthebest says:

    Of course he didn’t have to literally. Geez. My point was I think it was the right thing to do.

  215. Brandie says:

    Hubba, hubba!

  216. Jason81 says:

    So you know exactly what Timmons was thinking behind the plate?

  217. Jason81 says:

    It was inexcusable all around from Timmons.

  218. TJ says:

    You seem to think the umpire does. Brilliant. I dind’t know they or you could read minds

  219. Drew71 says:

    Yes it is.

  220. Brandie says:

    Said everyone to Jamarcus Russell.

  221. theplanisworking says:

    No, Jamarcus was waked, baked, and flaked! ;)

  222. TJ says:

    Did you read there mind on that one too cause they are saying the benches are being warned now

  223. Jason81 says:

    The Force is strong with this one.

  224. Brandie says:

    Matte hit on the right wrist.

  225. Brandie says:

    Marte , auto correct.

  226. Brandie says:

    Will stay in the game.

  227. Pucknutz says:

    Well… 2 outa 3 aint bad! :)

  228. Arriba Wilver says:


  229. Dadtackular says:

    Sure took a while for the ump to get it right!!??

  230. theplanisworking says:


    Marte hit, and a pitch up at Cutch’s head.

    Good thing we have that awesome ump Timmons there. ;)

  231. Arriba Wilver says:

    How was tossing Sanchez hurting the Pirates? Didn’t he do us a favor?

  232. Arriba Wilver says:

    Sorry, late to the party.

  233. 21sthebest says:

    What are you guys talking about? He was tossed because the ump thought he threw at him. It’s not difficult to understand.

  234. 21sthebest says:

    That’s what Wehner said when Sanchez was tossed. And he repeated it when Marte was hit.

  235. Jandy says:

    I’m late but I see i wasn’t missing out on much….eh…

  236. Sucks Gomez gave up a run there, but these bats got to pick up the pitchers now with some hits and runs. Come on now, don’t wait till the last three innings like the last two games. Start the come back now.

  237. 21sthebest says:

    What happened before the line drive single?

  238. TJ says:

    Timmons is making a mockery of this game with some of his calls. His strike zone is horrible. Would not be surprised if another player or two got tossed in this game. ZERO consistency

  239. Jandy says:

    You can BET Jandy has 9 wides ;)

  240. Jandy says:

    LOL you kill me!

  241. Jason81 says:

    So you wait two batters before hitting someone in response to giving up back-to-back homers? That makes ZERO sense. You either hit the next batter or one of the two guys that homered. Maybe he “thought” he could get away with it if he waited a batter, since we’re all about predicting “thought” tonight.

  242. Jandy says:

    They’re taking my name in vain again ;)

  243. The Gunner says:

    Yep, Jonathan Sanchez is done as a Bucco. At least Neal Failington didn’t blow a lot of money on him

  244. pattonbb says:

    Timmons is having a terrible night, but you can’t blame him for tossing Sanchez. Yea, a warning maybe should’ve been issued first, but back to back hr’s then the next guy gets drilled? There’s some very good umpires that would have tossed Sanchez too. Plus, he may have seen or heard something. Everything he’s done since throwing out Sanchez is an embarrassment to umpires and MLB.

  245. We have another caught stealing. Nice.

  246. It wasn’t the next guy though. He was the fourth batter. It also hit him in the shoulder. Cutch and Marte have both been buzzed high at the head twice tonight, and nothing.

  247. Jandy says:

    I think someone should drill the ump

  248. TJ says:

    The next guy did not get drilled. There was a single after the back to back shots and then a hit batter. I don’t get the thinking; if he was going to drill someone why pitch to holliday and take a chance for a back to back to back? Drill him instead.

  249. TJ says:

    Benches warned after Marte got hit.

  250. How about Gomez to the rotation? Pitching pretty nice since Sanchez got tossed. I think he used to start as well, so he won’t be devastated to move out from the pen.

  251. JRay3 says:

    Gomez turning in four very solid innings and keeping Bucs in game. Starting to hit some balls hard, need to start scratching out a few runs.

    I sure hope NH has a plane ticket for Bryan Morris to get here by tomorrow afternoon.

  252. Jandy says:

    Timmons is a friggin Dorktard and he needs drilled.

  253. JRay3 says:

    You’d have to believe he will be the guy to take this spot in the rotation for the one or two starts needed before Liriano is ready.

  254. Jandy says:

    too little, too late….

  255. theplanisworking says:

    Hi Jandy!
    You and the hubs were about 30 miles from me today.

    Did you say Hail Hippos to get good stuff at the car show??

  256. These guys aren’t going to do anything until they take that wooden thing off of their shoulders and swing it. Can’t do much with always going 0-2.

  257. JRay3 says:

    Eight strike outs in 4 2/3 IP for Lynn thus far.

  258. Wouldn’t hurt at this point unless one of the AAA guys (not named Cole) is lighting it up down there. My pick would be Cole, but I do understand all the points on letting him wait till June. I do want to win games, though so I don’t care if that would make him a super two guy.

  259. Jandy says:

    Sure did, PlanMan and we did find some good stuff :)

  260. TJ says:

    Ok why isn’t Lynn tossed? This is freaking ridiculous.

    We are not going to have a coach left at the end of this.

  261. JRay3 says:

    Marte hit twice this time up in the shoulder and nothing….another Bucs coach ejected, just ridiculous this ump has no control.

  262. pattonbb says:

    Oops, back to back hr’s, then Holliday gets a hit, then Craig gets drilled. That’s what I meant to say.

    Either way, pitchers do sometime get tossed without warnings. That’s all I’m saying. His control (er…lack of) of this game is embarrassing. He’ll be writing a check when this gets reviewed. Not that that balances anything.

  263. Jandy says:


  264. TJ says:

    Timmons with his hand waving is a total AZZ HOLE

  265. Jandy says:

    Time to take the entire team and just leave the field.

  266. TJ says:

    Guess Timmons has read Lynn’s mind and determined he had no intent; I want Gomez to drill the next batter

  267. theplanisworking says:

    Never underestimate the Power of the Hippo !! ;)

  268. pattonbb says:

    Now it’s a fiasco.

  269. Are we amidst yet another illusion?

  270. tdb1977 says:

    This is effing ridiculous! Lynn should be GONE! This umpire needs to be thrown from the game as well.

  271. Jandy says:

    Oh and he has control, all right…he’s being a control freak and the Pirates are taking the brunt of it.

  272. TJ says:

    WTF was that called strike on Snider. That was below the knees!!!

  273. Jandy says:

    That’s AZZMUNCH

  274. TJ says:

    The umpire is an effin azz hole with his show boating; waving his hand.

  275. theplanisworking says:

    Timmons should be suspended for this disgraceful display tonight.

    He tossed Sanchez and Hurdle, gave warnings, then did NOTHING when Marte was hit twice! and Cutch had high heat at his head.

    What a joke!

  276. TJ says:

    +1 Kabillion million zillion

  277. JRay3 says:

    Just think we still play these Cardinals 16 more times, should make for some interesting baseball if we can stay in thick of it in Central.

  278. 21sthebest says:

    Looked to me like Sanchez threw at the head of a batter after he gave up 2 home runs and a single. Not sure how you throw at guys that already homered.

  279. Jandy says:

    darn straight

  280. Dave G says:

    It’s a travesty that this ump hasn’t tossed Lynn.

    Incredibly unfair to the Bucs.

  281. JRay3 says:

    Snider was ripping him quietly too for it,

  282. Jandy says:

    Seriously, what would happen if they left the field. Just walk off….screw it.

  283. MadTurk says:

    I was thinking the same thing. Only trouble is the game is still winable.

  284. Patrick(ri) says:

    If this ump’s performance tonight is not “reviewed,” or whatever they call it, then there is no justice in mlb.

  285. The Gunner says:

    as much of a nincompoop Failington is, he will release J. Sanchez before tomorrow’s game.

  286. TJ says:

    I hope you’ll accept an IOU cause I don’t have that much on me right now

  287. Jandy says:

    Even if it is, we’ll never hear anything about it.

  288. theplanisworking says:

    OH! MY HIPPO EYES !!!!

  289. pattonbb says:

    This thing is going to blow up. Timmons looks like he wants to argue.

  290. Jandy says:

    No way to win with this azzmunch behind the plate.

  291. Jandy says:

    I’ll put it on your account, on account of you not having any on you right now ;)

  292. Patrick(ri) says:

    Martin should miss a fast ball — just kidding.

  293. TJ says:

    Well 21 thinks the umpire did the right thing by tossing sanchez to get the game under control. I’d say he’s done nothing but raise the temperature in this game. I really don’t blame either team… this idiot behind the plate is causing this IMO. If he did his job he would have tossed Lynn; instead he’s let him hit 2 batters.

  294. Jandy says:

    Cover ‘em with tulips :P

  295. MadTurk says:

    Sorry to say if I was the pitcher I would thrw at the ump!!!

  296. TJ says:

    Not a bad idea; can we hope for a foul tip?

  297. theplanisworking says:

    Do they forfeit? I wouldnt want that.

  298. MadTurk says:

    half joking

  299. JRay3 says:

    Cutch does not seem right at the plate, trying to pull everything and most teams trying to pitch him away, he is going to need to make some adjustments.

  300. Jandy says:

    He SHOULD miss a fast ball and I’m NOT kidding. >:<

  301. pattonbb says:

    true, they won’t release any details about performance evaluations or fines.

  302. Jandy says:

    see above!

  303. tdb1977 says:

    I would hit each and everyone one of them. Especially Beltran. Just because.

  304. Don’t forget that AJ did that shhhh thing the 1st game against the Card and Wainright mimicked it later. AJ apologized later for it since he though they were giving Russell crap. They are also still the Cards and will always get calls against the Bucs.

  305. Jandy says:

    Hard to make adjustments with someone throwing at your head and getting away with it.

  306. Eric Bowser says:

    Pirates don’t have the will to stand up to the umpire or Cardinals.

  307. TJ says:

    Probably has money on the game. Went with the under which is why he tossed Sanchez

  308. radio wave says:

    I have been following the game on the play-by-play on MLB at-bat what the heck did the hitting coach do to get thrown out?

  309. theplanisworking says:

    This is what happens when an ump prematurely throws a player out.
    Warnings given after Sanchez tossed.
    Warnings ignored after Marte hit twice.

    Timmons should have warned Sanchez, then this crap wouldnt be occurring.
    But since I cant read minds, I guess I just will watch this joke keep repeating itself over and over.

    Is there any way the Pirates can appeal this game?

  310. Jandy says:

    Of course they’d forfeit. But no way they can win this game with this azzclown behind the plate.

  311. Been happening since the second half of last year – when he started going into a tailspin. He does need to right his ship and start using the whole field again.

  312. Brandie says:

    This game feels like it’s taking soooooooooooooo long,

  313. tdb1977 says:

    Jones should have missed the ball and let it pelt Carpentier.

  314. TJ says:

    Ok now time to hit the next guy. Beltran gave that one a watch.

  315. Eric Bowser says:

    Gomez pitches to Beltran, he stands at plate, trots slowly and Pirates have tail between their legs… #cowards

  316. MadTurk says:

    Like mins like times.

  317. Jandy says:

    It’s high time they all grew a set, then

  318. SHOULD have hit that jackars before he hit the two run HR. Gomez is likely spent, should have been pulled already.

  319. Jandy says:

    it’s gonna be a looooonnggg night

  320. MadTurk says:

    Jandy you are contagious

  321. Jason81 says:

    Aren’t those guys that homered going to bat again? Or are they going to go tell Matheny they’ve had enough for the night and are done? Seems to me that if you’re going to hit someone it’s either the batter immediately after the home runs or one of the two guys that went deep. Not randomly after you give up another single. Plus, you’re also ignoring the fact that Sanchez is not known for pinpoint control. Everyone assumes since it was a fastball, that he knew exactly where it was going and he did it with intent. With his control, I don’t think he knows where the ball is going half the time.

    No matter what, it’s become blatantly obvious that we’re going to disagree on this, so we might as well move on.

  322. TJ says:

    If Gomez is spent then have him plunk the guy and get it over with

  323. Like Cincy from last year all over again. I say wait till Lynn comes to the plate and hit his behind.

  324. Jandy says:

    Perfect solution! Hit Timmons!

  325. Brandie says:

    Sometimes you own the night, sometimes the night owns you. I sure hope they do appeal this game.

  326. TJ says:

    I don’t think a warning was given until after Lynn hit Marte the first time

  327. JRay3 says:

    Gomez looks like he has hit a wall and run out of gas, can’t expect much more from him once again being thrust in a bad situation.

    Just reinforces the fact first news after tonight’s game needs to read: Sanchez DFA’d.

  328. pattonbb says:

    Wonder if any of this happens if AJ doesn’t get them riled up last time.

  329. 21sthebest says:

    The first time Marte was hit was his own fault.

  330. TJ says:

    Gomez cannot find the strike zone; Craig was very kind.

  331. STL fans need to just shut the hell up. He wasn’t even close to being hit.

  332. Jandy says:

    AJ has nothing to do with Timmons being an Azzmunch

  333. TJ says:

    Nothing to do with it at all

  334. theplanisworking says:

    and Huntington DFA’d also.

  335. TJ says:

    Ok Bannister should be fired; double switch and taking out Cutch?

  336. Eric Bowser says:

    McCutchen struggling… I don’t like the way he’s walking off… hustle and accept it.

  337. JohnH says:

    Turned on the tv for the home run. I am beginning to wonder about my mojo

  338. Eric Bowser says:

    sending a message… I like it.

  339. Jandy says:

    I hope that’s not a bad thang ;)

  340. TJ says:

    I wish Timmons had actually tossed Bannister

  341. 21sthebest says:

    And that’s not what I said, btw. i think he tossed him because it was pretty reasonable to think Sanchez threw at Craig and it was a preemptive strike keep it from getting out of control.

  342. Jandy says:

    I resemble that!

  343. 21sthebest says:


  344. theplanisworking says:

    Hail Hippos! ;)

  345. JRay3 says:

    Cutch coming out in double switch…either protecting him,giving him a rest in game that has gotten away, or using this as opportunity to get head right.

  346. Well Cincy lost tonight, We may lose this one, but we can still take the series and be on top of these redbirds.

  347. TJ says:

    Sorry you don’t embarrass your franchise player like that. You don’t make him walk off the field like that

  348. Drew71 says:

    I need somebody who really knows the rules to answer this.

    If the Pirates cut Sanchez NOW, can they toss him from the hotel and ban him from the team flight?



  349. MadTurk says:

    Wow Cutch out double switch, maybe some fireworks coming soon?

  350. TJ says:

    You don’t do that to Cutch. Sorry. Plain and simple you don’t do that to your franchise player.

  351. Eric Bowser says:

    If he’s that thin-skinned, then he’s worse off than I thought.

  352. Jandy says:

    Even your mojo can’t overcome Timmons the Azzmunch

  353. theplanisworking says:


  354. TJ says:

    Eric c’mon man this isn’t like hockey where you don’t go back on the ice; your making your franchise player do a walk of shame in front of 30+ thousand people. Thats just uncalled for.

  355. Jandy says:

    protecting him no doubt. And making a point…since Timmons obviously is biased.

  356. Brandie says:

    Double switch, new pitcher and Tabitha, Jose Tabitha (done on purpose).

  357. Jandy says:

    we can only hope! :)

  358. tdb1977 says:

    Who was the umpire in Cincy last year when Cutch was beaned by Chapman? Wasn’t it this crew with Timmons?

  359. Jandy says:


  360. pattonbb says:

    Before everyone lights the torches and starts chasing Bannister down the street for removing Cutch, lets give it a couple innings. You never know what might be in the works.

    Anyone but Tabata!

  361. JRay3 says:

    Yeah I found the move to be odd, he is one player that can get it together in one swing of the bat, and down five is not insurmountable. He definitely was not thilled about it.

  362. Brandie says:

    You lose a golden promotion opportunity by cutting Sanchez…Jonathan Sanchez Bobble Arm Doll give away at the ball park. Plunk your family, plunk your friends, pkunk the opposition.

  363. 21sthebest says:

    Also agree. But if you’re taken out, take it like a man.

  364. Eric Bowser says:

    Not the first time it has been done… Andruw Jones had it happen on national tv and he was just as big of a player for the Braves then as Cutch is now.

  365. pattonbb says:

    No. Bob Davidson I think. Not these idiots.

  366. TJ says:

    I thought everyone in the OF seats was guaranteed a HR ball

  367. MadTurk says:

    :-) Type o’s

  368. TJ says:

    Doesn’t make it right Eric

  369. MadTurk says:

    In a good way as well

  370. Brandie says:

    Rough night all around.

  371. Jandy says:

    Amen Sister Brandie!

  372. MadTurk says:

    Not suer about the Cincy game< I beleive I heard the annoucers say the last time Hurdle was tossed was by Timmons. Anyone else hear that?

  373. We could have had a line 3 over tonight, but alas Pedro just a few feet shy both times.

  374. Eric Bowser says:

    Well, at least it isn’t a shutout.

  375. Jason81 says:

    There you go with your thoughts again. :D

  376. theplanisworking says:

    Why, when watching this game, am I reminded of Kabuki Theater of the Damned?

    I have not seen such a poorly umpired game, by incompetent unprofessional umps in a while.

    I will repeat, Timmons needs suspended.

  377. 21sthebest says:

    It wasn’t randomly after a single. It was after 2 homeruns and a single. And you’re assuming that Sanchez thinks like you do.

    It was a fastball right at the head. I don’t think he left Timmons any choice.

  378. Jason81 says:

    I’d say a loss is in the works tonight.

  379. Don’t forget that Laz Diaz is also on this crew, so we are in for another poorly called game from a Bucs perspective.

  380. Dadtackular says:

    Would they have pulled Cutch because they plan on retaliating with another hit batter and want him out of lineup?

  381. TJ says:

    I wish I had a scratch and win saturday.

  382. MadTurk says:

    Ah shucks this is the Pirates, I was thinking Pens.

  383. Jandy says:

    Which is why they should have just left the field. Screw it.

  384. TJ says:

    Would only apply if you think the Cards would then hit Cutch; otherwise he would still be on the bench if a brawl took place.

  385. Jandy says:

    I was wondering that too, Dad

  386. Jandy says:

    haha +1

  387. MadTurk says:

    Yep they just repeated it. Last time Hurdle was tosed was last September and Timmons was the ump.

  388. TJ says:

    Last time Hurdle was ejected was by Timmons last september. Obviously they don’t exchange Christmas cards

  389. TJ says:

    There ya go

  390. pattonbb says:

    Ha ha…somethings coming folks… on it.

  391. TJ says:

    Nice job Hughes

  392. MadTurk says:

    :-O hit him PLEASE

  393. Dave G says:

    BRAVO, Jared Hughes!!!

  394. 21sthebest says:

    You mean protest? Were the rules applied incorrectly?

  395. TJ says:

    I would not want to be Lynn right now

  396. JRay3 says:

    Hughes is a guy you want on your side in times like these, purpose pitch delivered.

  397. tdb1977 says:

    The weekend series is going to be interesting if tempers are already reaching the boiling point tonight.

  398. TJ says:

    Lynn hurrying back to the dugout to change his pants

  399. TJ says:

    Tell me Lynn isn’t talking junk from the dugout

  400. TJ says:

    And AJ going tomorrow night; I’m sure the Cards want to remind him of their last meeting

  401. pattonbb says:

    Now comes the guy that needs plunked

  402. tdb1977 says:

    Put a ball in Carlo’s nose.

  403. MadTurk says:

    Can he say man diapers?

  404. TJ says:

    If your gonna walk him just plunk him

  405. Jandy says:

    I love Lurch!

  406. Jandy says:

    Depends ;)

  407. That’s what I was thinking.

  408. TJ says:

    I was stuck behind a woman on my flight back from chicago that smelled like she soiled her depends. God almighty was that horrible

  409. MadTurk says:

    That’s it! Thanks

  410. Jandy says:


  411. theplanisworking says:

    I cant wear those.
    Not Hippo sized. ;)

  412. cherokee23 says:

    Now we see if Lynn took the bait!

  413. Jandy says:

    don’t mention it, friend ;)

  414. Patrick(ri) says:

    Now we will see what kind of self-control their pitcher has. Could be an opportunity.

  415. cherokee23 says:

    I want Hughes to bat and see what happens

  416. Jandy says:

    lol get custom made ones :P

  417. Jandy says:

    Don’t hold your breath

  418. theplanisworking says:

    Omar doesnt make depends…….. ;)

  419. TJ says:

    Not one strike thrown to Barmes.

  420. cherokee23 says:

    My bad….the double switch took care of that

  421. Patrick(ri) says:

    Barmas is probably a good antidote. K before I could write this

  422. Jandy says:

    Diarrhea of the mouth…give him some immodium

  423. Let’s see if he hits Marte a third time and STILL doesn’t get thrown out of the game.

  424. Just missed a third HR for the game by the Bucs, but as usual it is a deep out.

  425. TJ says:

    Looked like Lynn was giving a look over at the Pirates dugout as he left the field.

  426. TJ says:

    So sick of this team not standing up for itself; no heart

  427. Jandy says:

    Like I said Up there…they all need to grow a set

  428. Thought I saw that too.

  429. Jandy says:

    Lynn is a ^uss^

  430. Jandy says:

    LMAO! Ya nut!

  431. You know it seems that Tampa Bay was constantly being looked down on and sucked for it. Then they started sticking up for themselves against the Yankees and Red Sox, and this started to get them going and winning. That is why they need to started growing a pair.

  432. theplanisworking says:

    Lynn is a uss?

    I think I need to say more Hail Jandy’s to understand this.
    maybe some Hippo Water, too…………… ;)

  433. Jandy says:

    Quit sounding so rational, 21, we’re having a rant fest here, can’t you see???

  434. TJ says:

    Guess it doesn’t matter to the team when you are essentially waving the white flag when you pull your best player. Don’t care if he is in a slump.

  435. TJ says:

    Another horrible strike call

  436. Boise Bucco says:

    Just watched the replay of Sanchez hitting Craig, he totally deserved getting run. And not just because I don’t like him, because if he’s missing so bad that he hit him in the head then he doesn’t deserve to be on the mound. If it was intentional, so be it, but if it was because he missed then it was pathetic and he shouldn’t see a major league roster again before Ian Snell does.

  437. TJ says:

    3rd PIRATE to be hit and no one tossed?????? WTF

  438. theplanisworking says:

    Sanchez hit.

    No ejection.

    Great stuff.

  439. Again no one tossed. Horrible.

  440. TJ says:

    I hope Searage was on the phone telling someone to get loose cause the next Cardinal was getting hit

  441. Jandy says:

    I can’t spell it out, PlanMan I’ll get tossed from the blog. Use your imagination to replace the ^ in front and back with letters. :P

  442. Jandy says:

    set … pair…same thing :)

  443. pattonbb says:

    you’ve got to be kidding…there’s no way they wanted to hit Gaby there, but come on….at least act like you want to keep control of this game. How many players can get hit after a warning and not get tossed?

  444. Garrett swinging at balls out of the zone again.

  445. Jandy says:

    Don’t just pull your best player…pull the whole darn team.

  446. TJ says:

    HOLY SH*T. Are you kidding. Almost a FOOT off the damn plate

  447. Boise Bucco says:

    Greg Brown didn’t even mention the fact that Gaby was the third hit batsman, it was like he was afraid to get tossed too

  448. pattonbb says:

    Terrible strike call…borderline criminal

  449. TJ says:

    Guess Timmons is running this game

  450. Pitch went AROUND the strike zone for that called third strike.

  451. Jandy says:

    Are you friggin kidding me????

  452. Patrick(ri) says:

    How about ejecting Timmons?

  453. pattonbb says:

    he has to. idiot ump is going to call them strikes

  454. theplanisworking says:

    Can the Pirates appeal this game?

  455. pattonbb says:

    what good does that do?

  456. Jandy says:

    the Pirates can’t expect to have a prayer of winning this game. heck, they can’t even get a decently called strike/ball. Just leave the field.

  457. JRay3 says:

    In other batter box…i’d say was criminal. Just awful MLB needs to suspend him.

  458. suprised he didn’t call that 1-1 pitch to Walker a strike.

  459. Patrick(ri) says:

    Anyone recall why Timmons tossed Hurdle last fall?

  460. Dave G says:

    Can’t remember a time when an umpire was clearly, clearly biased against one team like this guy is.

    He oughta lose his job.

  461. Jandy says:

    You’re right…you’d make a better point if you just left the field. Screw it.

  462. Come on Pedro hit it FAR!!!

  463. Jandy says:

    Agreed. Doubt it will happen tho.

  464. Boise Bucco says:

    Pedro is +1 lefties since the Phillies series

  465. theplanisworking says:

    I am not a good speller.
    I am not a good guesser.
    Hippo skool doesnt teach us this stuff.

    Just sayin’. 8-)

  466. theplanisworking says:

    game……….set…..pair? 8-)

  467. JRay3 says:

    If there was ever a time for him to run into one…please be here

  468. TJ says:

    Just don’t send out a catcher; let the pitcher throw at the umpire

  469. TJ says:

    Way to watch the pitch down the middle.

  470. TJ says:

    Woo Hoo; one in our favor

  471. TJ says:

    Cause he’s a jerk

  472. pattonbb says:


  473. TJ says:


  474. Boise Bucco says:

    Not tonight…man that sucks

  475. TJ says:

    The only thing that saves this game for me is if Mazarro hits someone. WTF is Timmons doing going to the mound

  476. Walker’s probably down for 7 days since he ran into Kozma’s leg with his head.

  477. TJ says:

    Reminded that the Pirates are not allowed to hit a batter but the Cards have free reign

  478. Boise Bucco says:

    Pedro killed PRNW with a double play

  479. Just speculating myself, likely just dazed or something else.

  480. theplanisworking says:

    Well, I am thoroughly ticked off at this game.
    3 hours of my life I cant retrieve.
    If I wanted to watch Umpball, I wouldnt need Root Sports.

    This team will never get over the hump, and compete for anything meaningful, until they stand up for themselves and get tough.
    AJ is one person, and one person is not nearly enough.

    Thanks to all for the conversation here tonight.
    This Hippo is heading back to the Pond.

    Long day tomorrow, wont be on the Pirates or Pens threads, so cheer the teams to victory for me.

    HIPPO HEY !!!!

  481. Jandy says:

    G’night Hippo my friend…don’t snore too loudly :P

  482. TJ says:

    Game is over; just hit someone

  483. pattonbb says:

    uh oh Inge….

  484. pattonbb says:

    cut on his hand

  485. Unfortunately, AJ can’t do much since this bullpen has been getting crushed with innings the entire season. Can’t take two games in a row with losing the starter in the first inning.

  486. That ball had some freakin English on it, but he still took a bad route to it.

  487. TJ says:

    How freaking far back was Snider on that bloop single? I mean seriously.

  488. I give up since they have given up once Pedro screwed the pooch and killed another possible rally.

  489. Boise Bucco says:

    All this means is that the Bucs will take 2 of 3. They never win the first game.

    If Playoffs will have it, I’d still bet 100 on the OVER on that Line #3 waaaaaaaay up there

  490. Bob Hasis says:

    Pedro hits them far, but rarely when you need it, and more rarely against lefties.

    Would it have been sinful to pinch-hit for him with a right handed batter – just once – to see what might happen, as opposed to a very predictable K with PA

  491. And even more rarely with ANYONE on base.

  492. Rock need to realize that these opposing hitters are always sitting on the outside since we NEVER throw inside.

  493. Bob Hasis says:

    Hurdle has no guts – as a manager

  494. TJ says:

    Kind of obvious that Timmons has a problem seeing things

  495. Patrick(ri) says:

    Thanks. Innocuous incident — no history of significance.

  496. I hope this doesn’t happen, but welcome to the implosion of the 2013 Bucs bullpen as they have now taken too much of the brunt of this season so far. 9-1 and the bottom of the order up now. Really have a good night everyone.

  497. TJ says:

    Guy is an absolute joke.

  498. Jandy says:

    it’s all I could find on Timmons ejecting Hurdle tho

  499. TJ says:

    Way too early to give up on the bullpen. We used Gomez and Mazzaro tonight which are not guys that will see much action once our team gets healthy

  500. Jandy says:

    I’m off to bed…disappointing that these guys can’t stick up for each other. Night!

  501. TJ says:

    Good news is that Sanchez will be available to pitch tomorrow if needed. Now if that doesn’t bring a smile to your face nothing will

  502. Window chose to sleep in today, now The Window has a billion errands to run.

    Gonna put this up here and just need a kind soul to re-post it in today’s game thread.

    Let’s open The Window…What’ll ya have? What’ll ya have?
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