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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

UNIONDALE, N.Y. — Morning, Lunatics …

>> The Tuesday column in advance of Game 4 reduces hockey analysis to pretty much its most basic — and often baseless — foundation: HIT SOMEBODY.

Yeah, I know. You’re welcome.

Here are some thoughts from Brenden Morrow on the matter …

And from Jarome Iginla

And here’s our full Trib coverage from Long Island, led by beat man Rob Rossi. Headlining in there is a look at how much Brooks Orpik means to this blue line.

>> The TribLIVE Radio show today — 1-2 p.m. — will feature special guest Douglas ‘Crankshaft’ Murray.

There will also be an opening rant on all the opportunities the NHL squanders to promote some of its most positive storylines, including a couple in this very series. Rossi will be the media guest, bringing you the latest from the Penguins’ room. And the local Twitter legend @suckmeter will offer the Suck of the Week with a puckish perspective, as well.

To listen, just click on the link above. It’s free, easy, no signup. One click, and we’re on. If you’ve got an iPhone, iPad or Android, we’ve got the upgraded TribLIVE Radio app. Also free and easy and everything else.

I want you involved, too.


Call: 412-320-7925.

>> Mean Joe Greene calls it a career in retiring from the Steelers’ front office.

Never waste a breath with anyone debating the franchise’s greatest player. At least not beyond having them read up on No. 75’s career, especially as it relates to his arrival in Pittsburgh and — along with Chuck Noll — engineering the greatest loser-to-winner transformation sports will ever know.

Mean Joe played a starring role in this, too, of course …

Here’s some great background on maybe the most famous commercial in television history by our Kevin Gorman from 2009.

>> The Pirates are playing the Mariners in a two-game series. In early May. That’s weird.

By the way, for baseball fans who aren’t seeing our weekly page dedicated to the sport in every Sunday paper, you’re missing out on some neat stuff, not least of which is a rotating feature examining a different minor-league affiliate each week.

This was the West Virginia feature from a couple days ago.

>> Hope to hear from you on the air today!

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. scapper says:

    Wonder if that fan is the same one from my high school days who used to yell, “WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE HIT [CASHMAN…CLARKE…BOSSY]!” at the most perfect point of the game.

    100% agreement on the need for more physical play. Isles have been just buzzing around with impunity. Time to wear them down with constant body shots. That’ll take some of the zip out of those tireless legs.

    Finally, the two uses of the word “greatest” above? Neither approaches hyperbole. Word gets tossed around a lot, but in both of those cases…perfect word choice.

  2. CWalton_67 says:

    The Tanner Glass quotes are telling. Nice job of asking the right questions.

    It’s amazing how fast this team loses the plot. We need another speech from Vokoun.

  3. Original Ether says:

    I didn’t get to post this yesterday – computer issues – but here is the Pitt baseball update.

    Pitt went 4-1 last week
    @ WVU: 7-6 (W)
    Akron: 6-1 (L)
    @ Georgetown 8-3 (W)
    @ Georgetown 13-3 (W)
    @ Georgetown 6-2 (W)

    Pitt’s record is now 36-11 overall, with a 15-3 conference record. USF finally lost a game, so Pitt is now tied for first in the conference (USF has the tiebreaker)

    Pitt is ranked in the following polls:
    Baseball news #17
    Baseball America #24
    USA Today coaches poll #28
    Writers poll #29

    RPI is 44

    Upcoming games this week
    5-8: Ohio
    5-10: Villanova
    5-11: Villanova
    5-12: Villanova

  4. Ed says:

    Wonder how many will be at the matinee on Wednesday. Burnett vs King Felix. Quite the matchup. May see some rain but I’m going.

  5. Brandie says:


    Thank you for the coverage. I like the idea of hitting somebody, of finishing your checks, of proper puck management, etc…Just words though until this team actually puts the plan into action. They need to play with passion and discipline. Know that these Islanders are young, tough, and speedy. Watch the game footage, know your assignments, make adjustments. Time to get to work boys. Maybe we could get Mean Joe to make a speech to motivate them. :-)

  6. egscoach says:

    DK, Props to the new guy, Travis, covering the Pirates. Always an interesting read on his blog. Good addition by the Trib Review.

  7. Jandy says:

    Glad to see you this morning, friend :)

  8. Jandy says:

    Dejan, the video of Mean Joe’s commercial tells me over and over…an error occurred,…try later. And the link to the background on it tells me page not found. :(

  9. JAL says:

    JAL’s The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 Go Buccos- Pirate News (from external sources)

    4 Pittsburgh Pirates Stats

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    Top Performers: Stetson Allie Continued His Hot Hitting Last Week

    Top Performers: Three International Left-Handers Making Some Noise

    First Pitch: Could the Pirates be 31-23 at the End of May?

    6 Bucs Dugout

    Phil Irwin hits minor-league disabled list


    Brandon Inge’s first two weeks (or: where is Travis Snider?)

    8 The Green Weenie

    Clint Hurdle & His Pitching Decisions

    9 Rumbunter

    Who Will Save Pittsburgh Pirates Starting Rotation?

    10 Penn Live

    Brian Goodwin benched; Harrisburg’s bats in a funk; Casey Sadler stars for Altoona: Harrisburg Senators game notebook

  10. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 Sports Illustrated

    Red Sox closer Joel Hanrahan leaves game with injury

    12 Rant Sports

    Pittsburgh Pirates Player of the Week: Starling Marte


    Former Pittsburgh Pirates Owner Kevin McClatchy Opens Up About Being Gay


    WV Power’s Castro Named Pitcher of the Week

    15 Bleacher Report

    Why the Pittsburgh Pirates Can Break Their Record Streak of Losing Seasons

    16 CBS Sports

    Seattle at Pittsburgh Game Preview

    17 Sweetspot

    Maddon pays for using closer too soon

    18 PBC Site

    Pirates have more than a catcher in Martin

    19 Baseball Prospectus

    Scouting the Draft Corner Infielders to Know

    20 Fangraphs

    Wyatt Mathisen: Catcher Under Construction

  11. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Steelers rookie CB Terry Hawthorne could be diamond in the rough

    Steelers add Terence Garvin to off-season roster; release two others

    22 Steelers Depot

    - Ryan Clark Talks About Tom Brady Seeing Ghost

    Soccer(football) Will T

    23 Daily Telegraph

    Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur: Gareth Bale is definitely one of the best in the world, insists Juan Mata

    24 World Soccer Daily

    World Soccer Daily: 10 stories you need to read, 3rd May, 2013


    25 Pensburgh

    Penguins have to learn their lesson quickly

    26 Yahoo Sports

    Strongman Douglas Murray Is Weak Link on Pittsburgh Penguins Blueline

  12. JAL says:

    The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia Vikki Lawrence 1973 More famous as a member of Carol Burnett’s show and for playing mama she took this to number 1 in April of 1973

  13. Jandy says:

    JAL’s link at #26, about Crankshaft….anyone’s take on this would be appreciated. I don’t see him being a liability on the PK…am I looking thru black and gold colored glasses?

  14. theplanisworking says:


  15. Joni says:

    What if Geno and Sid hit someone before they get hit themselves? That’s admittedly tricky, what with their injuries. Retaliation from the Islanders would have to be taken care of by other Pens players later on.

    Geno would have to watch his shoulder (pretty tough to do when you are hitting someone). Hitting someone first may alleviate some of the frustration that it seems Geno is dealing with already. I have yet to see Sid shy away from contact due to his jaw. Didn’t the man stand up on an Islander in the middle of the ice last game?

    I’m not talking about changing their style of play completely. I think hitting someone first would be a heck of an adjustment. And it would be something that the Islanders might not see coming, figuratively and literally.

  16. SJB says:

    Murray was known for his penalty killing upside before coming to the Pens. I’m not buying at all that Pens PK is somehow going downhill because of him.

    Steve Wozniak – the author of that piece – was a Communications and Theater major at Notre Dame, so we’re supposed to give a two sh*ts what he thinks on the matter?

  17. theplanisworking says:

    Thoughts from the Hippo this AM:

    Loved the columns the past 2 days about the Pens. I also appreciated the blog entries from Sarah, and others breaking down the Pens in detail.

    But I have never been a “Paralysis by Analysis” type of person. The Pens problems are simple: Smarts and Effort. We can talk about systems, coaching, etc. all we ant. But I feel it truly is simple here. Play hard, smart hockey. Dont overanylize. Just play. Hippos like simple analysis……………….

    Mr. Greene, as in 1981 when you retired from playing, you will be missed. Again.

    Never really been a fan of interleague play, this series is a good reason why. But I know Bud has it here to stay, so meh. At least Jack Zduriencik gets to come home to New Castle.

    Everyone have a great day. Raining here for the next 3. Hope to be back in time for the Bucs and Pens!

    Hippo Out. :)

  18. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, mine wored ok. I think your computer has the “Jandy Disease:………. ;)

  19. SJB says:

    One opinion I do give a crap about is Rick Tocchet’s and he summed up the play of the Pens in the last couple games in one word. Arrogant. A word I used to describe them as well over the past few post-seasons. They just don’t get, that no matter who you play, you have to work just as hard as, and sometimes even harder than the other team. When you are always coming in as a top seed the better team, a bulls-eye is on their back it’s hard to find the work ethic, motivation and compete level that the underdogs trying to knock you off can. They still haven’t figured out how to compensate for that.

  20. TJA says:

    Dejan – Re: your comment about Seattle being in town for a 2 game set with the Pirates: I hate the baseball schedule since interleague play began. I am old (well, not really…51) and such a purist and never have liked it. Now, with the flip flop of Houston to the A.L. and interleague being every day…not for this fan of the sport. :(

  21. BillyBaduka says:

    I’ve been saying overconfident but arrogant sure fits.

    I always liked Tocchet as a Penguin.

  22. Thundercrack says:

    Just heard a Red Sox fan on XM. Says he’s done with Joel Hanrahan. Wants him sent to the minors or put on the disabled list for the rest of the season

  23. NMR says:

    I’ll be there for King Felix. First ever start in Pittsburgh.

  24. Dom says:

    I noticed that too about the mariners series. I guess MLB had trouble fitting those two teams in their schedule.

  25. NMR says:

    Well done. Second your comment on all the good puck talk lately.

  26. Dave G says:

    Believe it or not, I believe that Tyler Kennedy makes a positive impact on tonight’s game.

    He’s a tenacious forechecker and battler. He’ll keep the puck behind the Islanders net, and the longer it remains there, the less time it’s headed back in the other direction.

    Which means fewer scoring opportunities for the Islanders and more time to set up defensively for the Penguins.

    Let’s Go Pens!

  27. BillyBaduka says:

    I disagree with that article.

    It does have the stat that Murray was on the ice foe 9 of 10 PP goals against the Pens.

    Other than that, it does little to support its headline.

    Ok, Murray’s slow. Tell that to Tavares who couldn’t get around Murray 1-1 to create a breakaway in game 3.

    I remember the same knocks on Murray from SJ forums when the trade occurred. I think Murray does a good job of playing within his range/limitations. I’m surprised that for his size and speed, he is rarely out of position. With the expectation set from those Sharks blogs, I thought he would be chasing the play and really haven’t seen that. I think he’s been one of the Pens most consistent players in this series. But I was a film major, what do I know. :)

    Totally unrelated to hockey….that article has a link that says Murray dated Tiger’s ex. That’s weird and funny.

  28. NMR says:

    The Pirates tough draw on starting pitchers is almost funny at this point. Stupid two game series and they STILL get Felix.

  29. Jandy says:

    Thanks guys. I didn’t see that he was hurting anything at all, in fact, last game he came back quicker than I expected on an Isles breaking out. This guys must be watching something other than we are.

  30. Jandy says:

    Thanks Billy, appreciate your input. I was also thinking how well Murray adjusts to his range and plays within his “zone”. The guy plays smart.
    Who would want Tiger’s ex? lol

  31. Jandy says:

    Have a good one, Hipposter! Agree..simple is better in playoffs.
    It’s to rain here for the next few days. I just want nice weather on the weekend!

  32. NMR says:

    Any guys to watch for in the draft?

  33. Dom says:

    Brock Holt is also playing poorly in AAA.

    Meanwhile, Melancon has an ERA of around .5, Stolmy has an ERA of less than 1 in AA, and De Jesus has a BA above .350 in AAA.

    The only downside is that Jerry Sands is underperforming in AAA. Still, it looks like a winner.

  34. Jandy says:

    You have a point there, Dave. I guess there is a silver lining behind every cloud :)

  35. Dom says:

    Didn’t this happen last year too?

  36. BillyBaduka says:

    I’ll take it!

    I like many here not a Kennedy fan. But Bennett has not done much since game 1. Kennedy does bring speed and grit, although that’s about it. For me, a lot of my TK ire is from his contract and the fact the Pens could have used that on some one else.

    While I don’t care for TK, if he’s in there, I hope your prediction is right!

    LET’S GO PENS!!!!

  37. Arriba Wilver says:

    Kaboly has a nice article on Shamarko Thomas. Sounds like the kid has his stuff together. Oh, and he sounds like a Steeler.

  38. Jandy says:

    ehhhh it’s work….prolly some blocker…

  39. BillyBaduka says:

    So much more succinct than I. ;)

  40. BillyBaduka says:


  41. Jandy says:

    That Sarah knows her schtuff!
    So does Patrick, the crazy ol’ loon ;)

  42. Jandy says:

    It’s early….baseball is a loooonggg season ;)

  43. scapper says:

    Kennedy is a playoff vet who has acquitted himself well more often than not in the post-season. Now that he’s been an occasional scratch and he knows that playing time is no longer an automatic, I look for him to be on fire tonight and playing exactly how the coaches have asked him to play.

  44. 21sthebest says:

    I believe he has been placed on the DL.

  45. Jandy says:

    I guess it wouldn’t hurt for them to initiate contact once in a while…but that’s better left to the guys who get paid to ht. Geno and Sid get paid to make points :)

  46. buffalo_bob says:

    I believe she is quite wealthy!!

  47. SJB says:

    Probably Cats..and not his but the musical.

  48. Arriba Wilver says:

    Tiger’s ex is beautiful and rich. What’s not to like? Oh, you mean she swings a mean 7 iron?

  49. SJB says:

    Pretty much any of the normal penalty killers are going to be out there when a goal is scored. Kinda hard to avoid that.

  50. Patrick says:

    I think we need to decide this kids nickname now before it gets out of control. So far I got:
    -Magic Marko

    I’m pretty sure those are our options

  51. SJB says:

    My someone else was Talbot.

  52. NMR says:

    You never want to gloat about a situation like this when the player is as good of a guy as Joel seems to be, but man…thank god we pulled the plug on that.

    Would’ve been $7m down the drain.

  53. Patrick says:

    I watched Blues/Kings last night, the third western conference playoff game in the last few days. Honestly unless the Pens start playing like they did in the midst of their 15 game win streak, it won’t matter who comes out of the East.

    Western conference winner will chew em up.

  54. NMR says:

    It’ll be interesting to see how long they keep Pimentel a starter since he has to be on the big league roster next year or else get exposed to waivers.

  55. Drew71 says:

    He’s a Yinzer??

    No wait. That would mean he sounds like us.

  56. Skip says:

    I’d like to see Joe Vitale get a chance. Good face-off guy, and his speed and energy would really be helpful vs the Islanders. Bennett would have to sit this one out.

  57. Jandy says:


  58. Jandy says:

    ZING! I only meant that she is his “leftovers”. My bad.

  59. Jandy says:

    logic one can’t argue with.

  60. 21sthebest says:

    Absolutely. I don’t think anyone is gloating.

  61. Jandy says:


  62. BillyBaduka says:

    Gotta go sham-wow in my opinion.

    Nice list Patrick.

  63. BillyBaduka says:

    Same here.

  64. BillyBaduka says:

    Works for me.
    LET’S GO PENS!!!!

  65. BillyBaduka says:

    LET’S GO PENS!!!!

    LET’S GO PENS!!!!

    LET’S GO PENS!!!!

  66. Arriba Wilver says:


  67. CWalton_67 says:


  68. AL says:

    Anybody remember when Mean Joe was drafted back in 1969? As I recall fans were ready to storm the Steelers’ offices. Who’s Joe Greene? From what I can remember, everyone thought that the Steelers would draft Butler native and Notre Dame star quarterback Terry Hanratty in the first round.
    When the Steelers passed on him, other teams thought the Steelers knew something they didn’t so they passed on him too. The Steelers picked Hanratty in the second round. He never amounted to much in the NFL but it’s still a neat story.
    I’m just going by memory here as I was only in grade school at the time so if anyone can verify this story that would be great.

  69. Pucknutz says:


    Ah, the memories DKs opening paragraphs bring back.
    From about 88 to 94 I was fortunate enough to have a steady seat in sec E-19 under that ol steel dome. The HIT SOMEBODY cry still rings in my ears.
    The crowd in the nose bleed cheap seats was for the most part a pretty savvy hockey bunch. Oh sure there were a few drunk buffoons scattered around, but mostly a fairly sharp bunch. DK is correct that the HIT SOMEBODY cry “almost” always lacks insight ect.

    Almost is the key word here. Most often is was a cry of frustration when the Pens were performing well below expectations – a plaintive cry of agony. Little bit dramatic there but you get my drift.

    Other times it had a hard angry edge – as when the opponents took a perceived cheap shot at one of our heros.

    If the game was rather lackluster and boring- not a whole lot of action either way – it became a rallying cry – Cmon Pens HIT SOMEBODY – pick it up.


    Indeed – GO PENS – HIT SOMEBODY!!!!

  70. CWalton_67 says:

    If TK is back in the lineup, who plays with 71? Don’t mind TK getting a shot but not in a top 6 role.

    Any word on Neal?

  71. wally says:

    ‘The only icy sport where you look fast on your backside is the luge.’

    DK- Another in a long line of gems. Priceless …

  72. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    What a horribly written piece. One stat to support an argument. Here’s my counter… what’s going on with the other PK guys (7 regulars, right)? They all are at +1 in PK situations? Come on.

    First, Orpik and Bortuzzo are hardly “bigger hitters” than Murray. Orpik’s not terribly far behind, but it’s not like Orpik and Bortuzzo frighten the bejeebies out of anyone. And considering Bortuzzo (really?! where did that even come from) played all of 15 games this season: that’s not even a good point.

    The PK didn’t improve 20% with Murray? Yeah? Surprised? Maybe there’s something to be said for the scheme. Or the players as a whole on the PK. If Murray shot 9 pucks into his own net, maybe there’s something to go off of with the % not improving drastically.

    His positional play when compared to most of our D has been outstanding. His physicality hasn’t been matched by anyone (Orpik hasn’t even played). He’s made far fewer costly blunders than Martin, Niskannen and Letang in this series (I’ve seen Martin be pushed off the puck like a rag doll several times already). He doesn’t get muscled off the puck. What a liability. Not saying he’s Gordie Howe, but give some credit and context where it’s due.

  73. Damon says:

    I’ve seen a lot of reports saying Orpik and Neal have a chance to play tonight. If that is the case, how do the lines shake up? Kunitz-Malkin-Neal looked awesome against the Canes. Bylsma is intent on keeping Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis together…I think. It would be a shame to force Iginla back on the LW on Malkin’s line…that line didn’t seem to have as much chemistry. Sid basically can play with anyone, so hopefully Bylsma goes 9-87-12, 14-71-18, 10-16-24, 15-36-27. Kennedy maybe instead of Glass. Then again Jeffery is always good his first game back from a long stretch. Dmen pairings would be obvious. Thoughts?

  74. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    I disagree that Kennedy would be a better insert than Vitale. Unfortunately, most of the playing style and “tenacity” everyone gives him credit for hasn’t been on effective display for 2 years now.

    Vitale HAS shown those elements consistently over the last 2 seasons. Plus he can win faceoffs and play D- things that have never been in the Peanut’s gallery.

  75. Drew71 says:

    I remember alternative cries.

    When the puck was in the defensive zone:
    - HIT Somebody!!!


    When the Pens were in the other team’s end:
    – SHOOT the PUCK! SHOOT it!!

  76. Jandy says:

    The Western conference always does look faster and better. Any team will be hard to beat.

  77. Milo Hamilton says:

    Wait a minute, the Vikings cut their loudmouth punter because of Jeff Locke ?

  78. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Don’t look now, but San Jose is only one W away from advancing and making a deep playo…

    No. Nevermind. Still don’t see that happening there.

  79. Jandy says:

    He and brooksie skated/practiced with the team in NY yesterday in full gear. Bylsma refused to give any information on whether or not either Neal or Brooksie will be playing.

  80. Jandy says:

    I agree with your lines 100% should Neal come back. That’s the best way to roll them in MHO.

  81. Jandy says:


  82. SeanAY says:

    I was directly across from you, friend, in section E3. We liked sitting up there because you could see the whole ice, how the play developed, etc. In fact, I found myself seeing TOO MUCH of the action…it’s hard to cheer when you (think, anyway) that you can see every wrinkle.

    That section, though, featured two things that drove me nuts. One, the “shoot the puck!” crowd was insufferable there. Two, there was the guy that sat directly behind me that would go on and on calling the players by nicknames.

    I’m sorry, but my theory is, unless you personally know the guy, or you’re in the locker room – which, hell, I don’t know, he might have – YOU DON’T GET TO CALL THEM BY THEIR NICKNAME.

    I didn’t know Colby Armstrong from Adam, I’m not calling him “Army.” I couldn’t pick Brian Holzinger out of a line-up, he doesn’t become “Holzy.”

  83. Joni says:

    I saw the Wild play the Hawks on Sunday.
    Oh my. I thought to myself, “So that’s what defense looks like”.

  84. Jandy says:


  85. Jandy says:

    well stated, Brad.

  86. Damon says:

    Anything can happen in the playoffs, and they are on a roll. A lot of people had the Canucks as their sleeper pick out of the West, and SJ is taking it to them. I’m sure the Luongo stuff isn’t helping any either…. If they are your 2nd team, stick with them man! The Blues were always mine….

  87. tpbco says:

    Would REALLY like to have an off the record conversation with HCDB on why he is so hesitant to put Iggy with Sid and Kunitz with Geno. There has got to be a reason, because it seems to be too obvious and inspite of what some think, he has proven himself to be one of the top coaches in the league.

    If Neal dresses, I would expect Bennett to sit, no other changes. IMO, way too many are underestimating what Glass is bringing to the lineup, which does not include his team mates. They did not bring him to Pittsburgh to score or be in any shape or form a top 6 forward. He is doing what he does.

    If Orpik can’t go (and sure hope he can), it will be back to Engo. Aside from the two penalties in game 2, has played pretty decent. Depres, hopefully will not see the ice again this year. Not only was he directly responsible for the first two goals the last game, but his “benching” totally screwed the D pairings the rest of the game. For all his potential, he makes Paul Martin look like Scott Stevens.

  88. Damon says:

    Jeff Locke the punter, not the Pirate pitcher…I noticed that too…

  89. Jandy says:

    I have to agree with you on Glass. He’s definitely needed.

  90. Pucknutz says:

    You are absolutely correct my friend – you could SEE the whole ice!
    Sadly hockey does not translate to TV as well as some other sports.
    There is soo much going on behind the puck that TV just cannot pick up.
    Even when I am watching on TV I try to pick up some of those things if I can, hard mostly, but sometimes you can.

    Drew & Sean – shame on me how could I forget SHOOT SHOOT THE PUCK!!!!


  91. Jandy says:

    Oh. Darnit Milo, you had me going there :P

  92. But Sean, don’t you “feel” like you actually know the players because of interviews, columns, articles, avid rooting, etc.?

    :) Just kidding.

    But how do you handle it on your WMU broadcasts? Do you use nicknames?

  93. Jandy says:

    That’s funny. Hubby is ALWAYS screaming at the television: “Shoot the friggin (word changed to fit the G-rated blog) puck!”

  94. Jandy says:

    I honestly don’t see why we as fans can’t use their nicknames. Don’t you refer to en Roethlisberger as “Big Ben”? No biggie.
    And anyway, I always called Colby “Cheese”. :P

  95. Certainly he doesn’t use the other word around a saint.

  96. Damon says:

    With everyone healthy, the 12 forwards and 6 Dman are easy. I think Glass is very important to the PK and adds some grit, Bennett is good but not on the PK and he’d be off the 2nd PP unit with Neal back. Organizing the 12 forwards is the key.

    Another can of worms – is Neal then on the 1st or 2nd PP unit?

    How the frick is this team not dominating?

  97. Joni says:

    I was chatting with a non-Pens fan recently. He said he had nothing but respect for Crosby and Malkin off the ice, but that they look delicate on the ice. I asked for clarification. Said gentleman replied that both superstars were protected more than the puck sometimes during games.

    I don’t agree with the guy, but I can see where he is coming from, thus my statement that a “hey, how ya doing?” hit should be offered early during a playoff game. Crosby and Sid should not go all Niklas Kronwall on anyone. Just give a reminder to the other team that they possess the whole package; physicality plus their hockey gods-given point scoring capabilities.

    Let’s go Pens!

  98. Colby Jack Armstrong. Good one for Jeopardy.

  99. Joni says:

    Clarification: The reason why I do not agree with the non-Pens fan is because Sid and Geno have the puck, thus their protection.

  100. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t know about Malkin, but I thought Sid used to, before his concussion problems.

  101. CWalton_67 says:

    Agree on the lines, have been saying the same regarding Kunitz/Iginla for a while. And on Glass as well. He needs to stay in the lineup.

  102. Skip says:

    I guess this is hockey blasphemy to even ask this question, but hasn’t Iginla looked very average 5-on-5?

  103. Jandy says:

    Yup :)

  104. Jandy says:

    hahaha! ;X

  105. Jandy says:

    AW, yes he did. Malkin would much rather just steal the puck from them.

  106. Jandy says:

    It’s because he’s been forced to play on his off wing. Put him with Sid and see what happens.
    Even at that, I don’t think he’s looked any better or worse than anyone else. This entire team just needs to get their collective heads out of their rear ends.

  107. tpbco says:

    I think the reason is not having had the time to set lines due to all the injuries is part of it and as I mentioned the in game benching of Depres.

    The comment from earlier this AM from Rick Toccectt(SP) about the Pens playing arrogantly (and STUPID) is also part.

  108. Damon says:

    I wouldn’t say average, but I wouldn’t say superstar. He’s made some nice plays, but also has coughed up the puck in the offensive zone at times. He may be still getting used to his line mates – it took Hossa awhile before he and Sid clicked. I have a feeling he may get on a roll soon…

  109. Milo Hamilton says:

    I just heard this note on Kornheiser’s show & it’s unbelievable. NHL teams that hold a 2-0 series lead win a 7 game series 87% of the time. When the Capitals go up 2-0 they are 2-4. That’s hilarious.

  110. SeanAY says:


    Typically no, I don’t. I go with the player’s last name primarily, and will occasionally throw their first name in when it’s clear I’m talking about them (“Brown with the three…I can tell you that David has been working on that lately,” and the like).

    Now, is that to say a “DB” hasn’t slipped through the cracks here and there? I’m sure it has. I just try to avoid it whenever possible. Even so, I’ll rationalize my hypocrisy by saying that once you get to road trips, you probably end up knowing more about these guys than you wanted to…LOL.

  111. Damon says:

    Other adjectives – cocky, overconfident, “we got this” attitude…they also tend to forget no one quits in the playoffs.

    They need to keep the pedal on the floor for 60 minutes…

  112. Iceman says:


    I was going to type a response to Jandy’s question having read the article, but I will just second everything you said here. These were exactly my thoughts. I will also add to this that Murray appears to be the only Dman willing to clear the crease when the puck goes in the blue paint. That alone was a much needed addition to the team.

  113. Jandy says:

    it would be SOONER if he were put on Sid’s line :)

  114. Milo Hamilton says:

    Kris Letang is a finalist for the Norris Trophy.

  115. Jandy says:

    That definitely tickles my funny bone. Must be that arrogance thing, eh?

  116. Jandy says:

    That’s news? ;)

  117. I figured that. Thanks.

  118. Jandy says:

    Fortunately I’m lucky to have been to the Civic (Mellon) Arena. haven’t had the pleasure of being at the Consol Energy Center yet.
    Sooooo… lol

  119. CWalton_67 says:


  120. Jandy says:

    Spunky, don’t you call Pedro, “el Toro” or Garrrett Jones, “GI Jones” or Barmes, “Gollum”..wait…nevermind that last one…
    And isn’t Grilli, “Grilled Cheese”?
    And Andrew McCutchen is “Cutch”.
    Same thing, except in baseball instead of hockey.

  121. Iceman says:

    I don’t think his upside is higher than Bennett’s still. Bennett has been forced to play on the Malkin line the last two games and, as we all know, playing on Malkin’s line is not something that many people can be successful at. With Bennett playing on the fourth line, you add scoring touch and potential that is just no longer there with Kennedy and I have seen Bennett throwing his body into checks pretty well for a skill player who everyone said was too small after his bout with the flu.

    In the end, this could all be irrelevant because hopefully Neal comes back sooner than later. With Neal back, Bennett will unfortunately be back to healthy scratch, but all four lines are able to look much better with his addition.

  122. I do, yeah. But Sean is a SID and more conscious of that stuff, especially when broadcasting, I’m sure.

    I’ve never done any broadcasting, but did some PA on basketball games and you do get carried away and embellish things, especially if you know the players or they are your own kids or whatever.

    A minister really shouldn’t use some of the names I’d like to call some of theses ballplayers sometimes. Neither should a saint.


  123. Jason81 says:

    The Penguins are responsible for 3 of the 4 series losses. 1992, 1996, and 2009.

  124. Jandy says:

    haha Spunky, point taken!

  125. Drew71 says:

    Now THAT tickles something else

  126. Patrick says:

    Every player has “his game”. Ron francis and Wyne Gretzky did pretty good and they could have played whole seasons carrying a dozen eggs without breaking one.

    Malkin and Crosby, like any other player, needs to play the way they feel they best contribute. Morrow needs to hit. Iginla needs to score and hit. Letang needs to carry the puck and not turn it over.

    Everyone has a role. Everyone was drafted, signed, traded for for a purpose. You play the way the coach and GM wants you to play. Not the way John P Jackwagon, copier salesmen from Akron wants them to play.

  127. Jandy says:


  128. Scott says:

    Sid wants to play with Kunitz and Dupuis, and Bylsma wants to keep his superstar happy. It’s really no more complicated than that.

    I think if Neal hadn’t gotten hurt, we may have seen Kunitz and Ignila swap lines at some point in this series, but so far at least one of the top six forwards has been injured in every game since the trades, so there hasn’t been a convenient opportunity to make the switch.

  129. Jandy says:

    Just curious. Have you talked to Sid?

  130. Kevin says:

    Also agree… IMO Iginla has only looked good on the power play so far… he looks lost on Malkin’s wing. And I know we keep saying Crosby can play with anyone but I’m pretty sure its Kunitz that can and HAS played well with both geno and crosby.

  131. Scott says:

    Incredibly average, yes. I agree with Jandy – once he gets put on Sid’s line (which won’t happen at least until after Neal returns), he’ll magically start playing better.

  132. Kevin says:

    Mine were the ducks and I badly want to root for them against the wings… but they have THE david ‘blindside’ steckel and brucie ‘loudmouth-short-guy-syndrome’ boudreau. Still hoping they knock off the red wings but go no further. Phoenix was my other team in the west but they kinda sucked this year. :\

  133. Milo Hamilton says:

    OK. I was wrong about trading Hanrahan.

  134. Skip says:

    I agree with that, Jandy.

  135. Arriba Wilver says:

    Agree. Seems like that’s a bit of a leap in concluding what Sid wants. I’m guessing he wants to win, which isn’t a stretch.

  136. Bizrow says:

    Its early, but so far, its encouraging

  137. Jandy says:


  138. Me, too. But I think he’ll come out of it like he did here. Stolmy is still unknown on the ML level.

    Now Melancon, that’s been a different story.

    Jerry Sands.


  139. Jandy says:

    key word…early ;)

  140. Joni says:

    The good news is that Even the copier salesman in Akron can have his say on a blog. Isn’t that what we are all doing here? Of course I defer to the players, coaches and GMs on this :)

  141. Milo Hamilton says:

    Read this Biz.

    JAL has it at #11 in the links but this story is complete with quotes.

  142. MadTurk says:

    How many times have we heard Sid say he wants Kunitz a Duper because they are comfortable together? Until Sid says otherwise it will not happen.

  143. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’m not saying I like what we got. I still think he could have done better. But it appears they got rid of him at the right time.

  144. Arriba Wilver says:

    To be honest, Hanny for Melancon at the price differential, with Grilli there, is a decent trade all by itself. At least so far.

  145. Milo Hamilton says:

    The decaying carcass of Luis Tiant for Joel Hanrahan is a good trade at this point.

  146. Jandy says:

    Darn, that’s rotten luck for Hanny :/

  147. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    I think I just feel bad for them because they’ve so often been early season favorites to win the Cup and NEVER get there. I guess I’d like to see them just once make it to the finals (where we beat the crap out of ‘em). I’d be ok with the Blues too.

    Plus the Sharks had like the coolest logo when they entered the league. I was a kid and a big hockey fan and all my friends and I loved the Sharks. And who can forget the Brian Heyward mask? It was, to quote Kung Fu Panda, “Pure Awesomeness.”

  148. Arriba Wilver says:

    Had not heard that, Mad. Had not heard that once from Sid. Not saying that’s not true. Just hadn’t heard that beyond speculation.

  149. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yeah, but . . .

  150. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    I once scored 28 goals playing alongside Crosby.

    Ok it was actually a video game and my real-life skating sucks, but y’all get the point. Ironically Sid was injured halfway through that season.

  151. 21sthebest says:

    Speaking of what maybe are strange tidbits of information, Stephen Strasburg has never recorded an out in the 8th inning of a Major League game.

  152. Bizrow says:

    You know, plus, we’d only have had Hanny for this season

    But yeah, there might have been more out there, and Detroit ended up scrambling for a closer.

    Water under the bridge though

  153. SeanAY says:

    Not bad for a trade that had no baseball merit, right?

  154. tpbco says:

    Only unless he gets his Valium script filled…so that he chills and stops trying too hard with the puck…

  155. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    + a bunch

    Though I have been pleasantly surprised by Melancon.

  156. Bizrow says:

    Seems like the Melancon we got, is the Melancon the Red Sox thought they would get when they traded for him, they got him from the Astros, right?

  157. hockeymonster says:

    Speaking of my ol’ buddy/pal Paul Martin…did you guys hear his comments about the forwards needing to do a better job of helping the d? Can you believe the nerve on that over paid and over sized pylon? How bout he focus on the basics by his net?!?!?! Like lifting a stick and maybe some boxing out? He should visit practice of some 12 year olds…maybe he’ll learn some basics there…

  158. Thundercrack says:

    People were so concerned last year about the chemistry in the clubhouse.

    Imagine what a stinky carcass would do to the clubhouse.

  159. Iceman says:

    Spot on with the lines there Damon. I don’t know if DB will break up the Crosby-Dupuis-Kunitz line, but he should for the betterment of the whole team. NO WAY I put Kennedy in over Glass. Glass has been doing a good job killing penalties right now and Kennedy doesn’t kill penalties at all. I leave Glass in there.

    If Orpik comes back, D-Pairs should be:


  160. Thundercrack says:

    You obviously do not read my posts.

    I posted that last week. Of course some find all of my posts full of strange tidbits

    Come on man….

  161. Might be a couple in there now. But Casey is only a Tweet away if needed.

  162. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    My idea for a physicality stat for NHL.


    Stay On Feet After Hit. Both delivering and receiving.

    Craig John Adams- 13.4%.

    Pascal Dupweeeee- 14.6%.

    Douglas C.S. Murray- 89.2%

  163. Original Ether says:

    This was asked on Pantherlair a few days ago; the consensus is:
    – Elvin Soto – C – sophomore
    – Casey Roche – OF/P – junior
    – Ethan Mildred – P – junior
    – Matt Wotherspoon – P – junior
    – Joseph Harvey – P – RS sophomore
    – Rhys Aldenhoven – P – junior

    Exactly where these guys would be drafted, I don’t know.

    Forgot to mention in the 1st post, Pitt also officially qualified for the Big East Tournament,

  164. Iceman says:

    I’m guessing Scott has not talked to Sid, however, Mark Madden (as much as I can’t stand him) has said the same thing, and there is certainly a chance he has talked to Sid. He said that Sid likes playing with Kunitz and Dupuis and Sid gets what he wants.

    That being said, it is time for Coach to step up and be a coach and do what is best for the team by putting Kunitz with Malkin and Iginla with Crosby.

  165. 21sthebest says:

    Oh my! I was thinking I heard that on MLB Radio. Which is maybe where you heard it?

    Of course, I don’t remember what I had for breakfast.

  166. 21sthebest says:

    See that’s what nobody has considered yet. What was Jonathan Sanchez like in the clubhouse?

  167. Lad9 says:

    Awesome! Thank you for the update. With the new facilities and the increase in available scholarships, it is likely that the program will improve significantly over the next few years. The rub is that the results may not show it, as the competition level in the ACC is a significant ramp up from the Big East. Which is why it would be so nice to take the Big East title this year. Go Pitt!

  168. Kevin says:

    LIKE that stat. Definitely noticeable in last game. Someone delivered a big hit on Murray and he didnt go down. Looked like he barely noticed someone hit him. Actually, I think the guy that hit him went down.

  169. Milo Hamilton says:

    He was no Casey McGehee, I can tell you that.

  170. Like the decaying carcus of Luis Tiant. He was that way on the mound, too.

  171. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Go easy on Paul Martin. I’d hardly call him over-sized (winking smiley yellow face)

  172. Thundercrack says:

    Yes that is where I heard it…and did mention that part too

  173. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    And I love that Dupweee and John Adams throw them all the time. Really do. It’s just kinda funny (sometimes not so much if it puts them out of position) that they deliver a crushing hit and then splat themselves on the ice. Kinda like a William Gay tackle.

  174. Patrick(ri) says:

    That is an encouraging thought: only two!

  175. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Letang washing his hair would be. :-)

  176. NMR says:


  177. NMR says:

    I think there a lot of peopel around baseball saying “I told you so” regarding Hanrahan.

    Pirate fans can think he was worth gold all they want, but nobody was busting down the door for him.

  178. 21sthebest says:

    Umm,, Luis is still alive!

  179. NMR says:

    It’s one thing to allocate salary to a position of need, but it’s another thing when you waste $17m on a catcher hitting .272/.362/.543 :)

  180. NMR says:

    Yep, for Jed Lowrie, a pretty darn good shortstop when healthy.

  181. Joni says:

    Thank you, sir, for making me laugh! Even if I laughed so hard that I inadvertently spit out my gum. I forgot to keep it classy – probably because I am not in San Diego.

  182. 21sthebest says:

    Did you also mention how they were talking about his forearm issues and what Davy said?

  183. Brian in Brooklyn says:

    Is anyone else going to the game? We are looking to tailgate with some pens fans. Got some more reasonable playoff tics on stubhub at work…

    We were at the game on Sunday and I gotta say I personally have never been in such an electric crowd. Last row in the cheap seats against the wall…. good thing too because I’m sure we would have had some things spilled on us or worse if someone had the chance.

  184. Naterosboro says:

    Not sure if anyone has seen this, but this guy just wrote the biggest joke article ever about the Abdelkader’s suspension, the Red Wings, the NHL and Gary Bettman. If you enjoy a few laughs, and a few WTFs…please click & enjoy…

  185. Milo Hamilton says:

    You know, I didn’t know exactly how bad Michael McKenry was defensively until I watched Russell Martin play for a month.

  186. Jandy says:

    There you go, Patrick, using that distinct writing style of yours :)

  187. Jandy says:

    You can say anything you like about Paul Martin, bottom line is, he’s right.

    Brad, it goes like this:
    :) ;) :) ;)

  188. Kevin says:

    I watched the ducks n wings… honestly thought that game would end with the ducks stealing the game from the wings like the penguins did in game 3. Wings fought hard! and tied it to go to overtime. And then Corey Perry embellished on a high stick penalty. I thought they’d score on that penalty but I guess they just aren’t the penguins.

  189. hockeymonster says:

    Ha…so I wasn’t crazy after all for suggesting we trade him while his value was at the peak? :)

  190. Jandy says:

    Sid likes playing with Iginla too, he said as much in the media. So, that doesn’t mean jack to me ;)

  191. Jandy says:

    Zactly. Crosby can play with anyone. Geno cannot. I can’t see Sid saying he wants Kunitz, if it means another line or player struggles. That just isn’t Sid.

  192. Jandy says:

    hey now, let’s keep it clean ;)

  193. Jandy says:

    TC’s post are crack ;)

  194. Jandy says:

    Awesome! Get Dejan to suggest it somewhere lol

  195. Jandy says:

    uhh John ? Yeah and Craig Adams delivers ‘em too ;)

  196. Jandy says:

    pfffffttt!! I love his hair :P

  197. NMR says:

    I can’t think of anyone since Kendal that has come close to matching Martin’s athleticism behind the plate.

    I’m far from an authority on catcher scouting, but Martin’s just so fluid with everything he does behind the plate.

  198. Naterosboro says:


    The Fort has a special place in my heart, but he is a butcher behind the plate.

  199. Jandy says:

    And Fort looked GOOD alongside Hot Rod…just sayin’

  200. Jandy says:


  201. Jandy says:

    so, is that stinkin’ alive?

  202. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    That will be amazing…

  203. Jandy says:

    OMG! This guys is as big a jackwagon as that dorktard from Ottawa ;X
    “Beyond the few hockey diehards — and bandwagon fans in the playoffs interested in the Red Wings — ask yourself, what does the NHL do to draw you in? They have no clue how to market the sport in America. Name five stars in the league not in Detroit?”
    He’s embarrassing Detroit and the Redwings. They should shut him up/down.

  204. Kevin says:

    man, that guy is all over the place… looks more like a transcript from a radio show than a column. Also “name 5 stars not in detroit”.. he is serious with that? almost everyone can name 5 stars in each conference (and no one from detroit is at the top of my list).

  205. Jandy says:

    Thanks for the link, Nate, lotta laughs there lol

  206. Iceman says:

    WOW… just wow.

  207. Naterosboro says:

    If the Fort is a butcher, then RB was the owner of a chain of slaughterhouses!

  208. Iceman says:

    Point well taken :)

  209. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Good moonin’! Good moonin’ all…

    -Excited about the Mariners being in town, even though I’m not. I see a split, win tonight, lose to King Felix.

    -Strange how interleague play is being done this year. I kinda like the new format.

    -Aaron Harang and his 8+ ERA starts tonight, so he’ll probably go 7-8 strong….SMH, how does that always seem to happen?

  210. NMR says:

    Makes for an interesting situation since Tony Sanchez looks like he’s shown the ability to adjust to another level.

  211. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  212. pattonbb says:

    don’t jinx him!

  213. Iceman says:

    Here are a couple articles in response to some above posts. First of all, in response to the joke of an article on Yahoo about Doug Murray being the week link, I think this is a much more accurate and telling article.

    And in response to hockeymonster comparing Martin to a pylon, here is an article explaining how Paul Martin saved game 3 for the Pens in the third period and overtime.

    I agree that Paul Martin had a rough time in games 1&2, but by the end of game three he really seemed to figure it out and this article does a good job showing some reasons why.

  214. cmat0829 says:

    My two cents on the Hanrahan discussion:

    1) Fans really overrate closers, and few GMs do. (a couple still do, but most don’t).
    2) Hanrahan was a fine closer for our Bucs….after he failed in the role for the Nats.
    3) Pirates, regardless of payroll, can’t put that many eggs in the bullpen basket.
    4) Even if they kept Joel, 2013 was it in the ‘burgh for him.
    5) Grilli more than likely doesn’t sign with the Bucs if Hanny is still here (even if the Pirates made an offer which they wouldn’t have).
    6) Even last year, you can make an argument that Grilli was performing on par with Hanny and often times faced the middle of the lineup in the 8th inning.
    7) The trade with the Sox was good, even if the return was only Melancon and Pimentel. Sands and DeJesus are AAAA filler so don’t hold your breaths analyzing their performance.
    8) As much as NH deserves criticism, let’s please give him credit that he knows how to build good bullpens…seems we have enough objective evidence at this point, no?

    9) I don’t root for players the Pirates trade away to fail so the trade looks better for us… too bad for Hanny….

  215. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Who was then shipped to Oaktown!!!

  216. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    You’re certainly welcome. I’ve also played a season on MLB The Show that ended up like the Cutch commercial that aired back in April- except I won the World Series in 4 games (helps when you can adjust the difficulty level).

  217. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Agree with all the statements, I also mentioned the same setiment about closers at the time and felt that Grilli would be just as good if not better than Hanny.

    Closers do have to have a certain mindset, but I believe most at that level could take on the challenge, depending on their stuff.

  218. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    NH builds bullpens that do quite well from April to about mid-August.
    The wheels really seem to come off at that point.
    Seriously, check their ERA splits from April 1st to about August 10th and then what their ERA’s are at from August 11th to the end of the season. Not pretty.

    That could be a symptom of over-use or not enough depth or both.

  219. pattonbb says:

    I think he’s right when he says the NHL has no idea how to market their sport.

    Other than that, it’s just a bunch of senseless ramblings bunched together in an “I Love Detroit” fan letter.

  220. Naterosboro says:

    I got it from 93.7 Host Chris Mueller (@937Mueller) on twitter.

  221. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Best nickname I could think of for him. Bu it makes me wonder…

    Any time Craig John Adams does something smart on the ice, you instantly hear “Well he went to Harvard…”

    Any time Dupweeee does something smart you never hear “Well he is French Canadian…”

    Random pondering for the day.

  222. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Casey’s on twitter!!!!!! No way…follow

  223. Thundercrack says:

    I think they did talk about his forearm problem but it was before Davey Johnson’s comment.

    Which I think Johnson’s comments are very interesting and insightful. (And may be troubling for the Nats)

  224. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Over-use in my opinion and lack of starting pitching….

  225. Naterosboro says:

    There has to be an interleague series all the time now with both leagues having 15 teams. Otherwise, you’d have an AL & NL team off (as 7 play 7 (14 teams) and then the 1 (15th) would be off those days) every series!

    I’m not a huge fan of this.

    At least they could’ve sent the geedee Brewers back to the AL where they came from!

  226. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Probably a little wild….walked around a lot

  227. NMR says:

    Billy Beane > Jeff Luhnow

    Chris Carter K’s more than Pedro and Peacock’s fastball is flatter than Brad Lincoln’s

  228. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    “Name five stars in the league not in Detroit?”

    Isn’t that a statement rather than a question? Just saying.

    I’ve graded completely rambling research papers that made way more sense than that.

  229. NMR says:

    Pittsburgh Pirate scouting deserve a ton of credit for the Hanrahan trade.

    Pimentel replacing his shoddy curveball with a plus slider late last year to complement his mid 90s fastball should give him the stuff to be at worst a good reliever. Somebody was paying attention to that.

  230. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    I say that’s good stuff. I’m no fan of the SEAL. But he can put a bullpen together.

    This is more a question than a statement: weren’t closers more universally overrated not all that long ago with the likes of Gagne, Hoffman, et al?

    I seem to remember incredibly huge and near-ridiculous contracts for these guys being the norm about 10-ish years ago.

  231. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    So does Exxon. ;-)

  232. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Whoa I figured it out!

  233. Jandy says:

    LOL yeah, a word I got from my kids…who are 26 and 30. what can I say?

  234. NMR says:

    Oh yeah. Closers were the subprime loans of major league baseball. The bubble has burst.

    I’d give the guys you mentioned all the credit they got.

    Where baseball went crazy was when every guy that racked up 20 saves in a season started getting contracts approaching $10m/yr. Elite closers are worth every penny to the teams that can afford them. But there might be 3-5 of those guys in the game, at most.

    The rest are good relievers that happen to pitch in the 9th inning. No reason to pay them any more than their skill level dictates.

  235. Jandy says:

    No it’s not a statement…that dorktard truly believes that NHL fans can’t name 5 stars in the NHL that aren’t from Detroit. Doesn’t matter if they’re from Pittsburgh. But hell, I *KNOW* Wings fans know 5 stars that aren’t from Detroit,.,..because they make fun of most of the Pens stars anyway…starting with Sid. (The call him Cindy). Shows they’re IQ, doesn’t it?

  236. Naterosboro says:

    I guess it’s kind of poor that Red Wings fans can’t name Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, the Sedins, Tavares, Malkin, etc……

  237. Jandy says:


  238. Naterosboro says:

    O you mean the 4yr/$53million (could end up being 5/$65) contract the Phillies gave Jonathon Papelbon before last season?!

    The closer is 1 that is pumped up by agents. Nothing like taking 3% on $53million for a guy getting 3 outs a game.


    Thank you Scott Boras. (Can I be Scott Boras for a day?!)

  239. Naterosboro says:

    Brad Lincoln was a 1st rd. pick tho.

    Great clubhouse guy too.

    In AAA.

  240. Naterosboro says:

    Yea, but isnt he like 25000 miles away in Japan.

    Guess we’ll need him to take the red eye.

  241. Naterosboro says:

    A cancer. You see how many batters our starters (and entire staff; sands a few) have been walking this season?!?!

    I think that is no coincidence.

  242. Patrick says:

    Sorry if i came across as condescending towards you. Obviously yes, everyone gets a say so here.

    I guess my point is that whatever Malkin and Crosby do, haters will point out what they AREN”T doing.

    “Well well..well……see crosby ISNT PHYSICAL ENOUGH! YEA that’s it”

    If they started hitting more some people would say they aren’t passing enough…as long as they keep winning hockey games and trophies its hard to criticize anything those two do. Somebody here on the blog yesterday suggested benching Malkin (the league MVP and former Conn Smythe winner) in favor of Dustin Jeffrey. That’s so crazy you cant even argue with it.

  243. Thundercrack says:

    I thought Tony LaRussa invented the closer.

    Or maybe I just blame him for everything that is wrong with the game

  244. Patrick says:

    I’m fairly certain its because thats who Sid wants. Hes the Captain and he does have some input in that kind of decision. SOme caoches dont ask for input, some do.

    But really if you took:
    Neal, Kunitz, Morrow, Malkin, Iginla and Dupuis and picked names at random…you really cant make a bad line. Just cant. I think Malkin/Neal/Iginla is a line that just about every other team in the league would kill for and as fans we cant wait to break it up. If they do, so be it. But if Kunitz stays with Sid, i feel pretty good about Malkin playing between Iggy an Neal.

  245. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    I thought I wasn’t crazy (well, not entirely). I thought that had become almost a trend in MLB awhile back that has changed drastically since.

    I’m sure some were worth it, but it seemed like that was THE job to have in baseball going on an actual work (in games) to pay ratio.

  246. Chris says:

    Sid has said he would prefer playing with kunitz and dupuis because it would be an easier transition.

    I can’t figure out copying and pasting the link on my phone but it is in a josh yohe story from April 29.

  247. Jandy says:

    Iceman, great job. I thoroughly enjoyed both articles.
    And things are just as I perceive them. Murray hates humans and Paul Martin is back :)

  248. Jandy says:

    lol yup

  249. Jandy says:

    lol +1

  250. Chris says:

    Sid said it would be an easier transition for him if he returns from the injury playing with Kunitz and Dupuis. Josh yohe article “Pens’ Crosby hopes doctor gives him green light for game 1″

  251. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Stamkos, Quick, Parise, Henrietta Lundquist, Suter, Chara, Bissonette…

    ok, the last one’s a stretch unless you’re looking at twitter.

  252. Jandy says:

    pfffft! :P

  253. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Tyler Kennedy saved game 3 for the Penguins. He didn’t play.

  254. Jandy says:

    here it is:

    You notice the next paragraph Sid goes on to say,
    “It’s not up to me,” he said. “But we’re pretty comfortable together. It would probably make for an easier transition. But that’s not my job. My job is to play. When I’m able to come back, I’ll be happy with whoever I’m playing with.”

  255. Brad, Indiana PA says:

    Good level or bad level? How is Sanchez doing this year?

  256. Jandy says:

    The only problem I have is forcing Iginla to his off wing. That’s just wrong.

  257. Brandie says:

    Good analysis.

  258. Kevin says:

    really wish I could get those at work. I know what you mean though. Murray’s been a rock… literally. You don’t hit the rock, the rock hits you.

  259. Jandy says:

    And Chris, I can’t do jack with my phone…at least not a whole lot…but I’m at work…so there’s your link :)

  260. Chris says:

    Yep so it sounds like he’d prefer to play with Dupuis and Kunitz but is happy playing anywhere (would you expect him to say anything else?).

    Just wanted to post to say Scott and MadTurk aren’t just speculating

  261. Kevin says:

    Patrick Kane, Johny Toes, Corey Crawford, Marian Hossa… all these guys I would name before Datsyukian and Zetterburgh. But yeah, I guess if he was saying red wings fans can’t name any stars outside of Detroit, that makes a lil more sense.

  262. Chris says:

    Haha thanks!

  263. hockeymonster says:

    If you read my posts from yesterday I credit PM for having a good bounce back game in game 3! BUT if you want to know why i’m critical of said pylon just look at the 1st 2 goals against in game 2. For some reason the word ” sofffff” in a french accent comes to mind :)

  264. 21sthebest says:

    Actually he came back up the other day.

  265. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    without a doubt BB is a great GM and NOT because I once watched a movie about him.

  266. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I usually put something else in front of that tard part, but not appropriate here.

  267. NMR says:

    By another level I meant AAA. Sanchez has his triple slash line up to .275/.398/.449 after struggling in his half season last year.

    This is very similar to his second time through AA.

  268. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Detriot fans aren’t the only ones that call him Cindy…..

  269. Jandy says:

    Understood. But I also want to remind, that Sid makes ANYONE look good on his line. Geno, not so much.
    And that Sid is the ultimate team player, and will play with TK and Jeffrey if he’s asked to.

  270. Jandy says:

    No worries, Mother Theresa aims to please ;)

  271. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I bet I can’t without googling……..I know Pens, tha’ts about it…Tried the Sharks, so I guess if I team them up I can…eh, so what.

  272. Jandy says:

    Iceman, like I told Patrick yesterday, save your breath ;)

  273. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Send the Brewers back and keep the Astros? Deal. Where do I sign?

  274. NMR says:

    BB gets my vote for top GM as well because he’s the only guy I can think of that has built and rebuilt a small market franchise.

  275. Kevin says:

    Apparently, we really are missing Orpik according to the Rob Rossi article. Bylsma’ lost faith in Orpik’s fillins Engelland and Despres which I guess can see. And the islanders only fear big Murray back there.

    Hope both him and Neal play tonite. And hoping for another comeback game from Nealer like his first comeback when he tricked.

  276. Brandie says:

    No TK love here.

  277. 21sthebest says:

    Bad news. Sid is on the cover of Sports Illustrated this week.

  278. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    2nd stint already

  279. hockeymonster says:

    Why so condescending jandy? Icemans post implies that I didn’t acknowledge a better performance by PM in game 3…just getting the record straight…iceman can save his breathe but you should saved the condescending comments…unless you’re the judge and jury of all posts on here.

  280. Jandy says:


  281. Jandy says:

    Yeah I’m a pylon :) :) :) :)

  282. Jandy says:

    how the heck are ya Brandie? Missed ya around here, girl!

  283. Jandy says:

    How about Anze Kopitar? Teemu Selanne? Phil Kessel? Tuuka Rask? Jonathan Quick?

  284. Jandy says:

    I’m aware of that.. lol

  285. Jandy says:

    over at FaceOffFactor they call him CraigeffnAdams lol

  286. hockeymonster says:

    No no…you have to have the initials PM to be the pylon category :)

  287. Iceman says:

    You can be critical all you want of Paul Martin for the first 2.5 games of the series, however, it seems to me a bit ridiculous to single him out. Other than Sid and Murray, everyone on this team has had several moments of playing like garbage. Why single out Martin when he has bounced back to play well and other players (Letang, Eaton, etc.) have not bounced back near as well. Also, Martin played 30+ minutes last game (only topped by Letang) because all faith was lost in Despres. So not only did Martin bounce back, but he did it at a time when he should have been wearing down from being overplayed.

    I realize you have some strange vendetta against Paul Martin, but I for one am happy he is on the blue line right now.

  288. Bizrow says:

    Hopefully, Sid’s already paid his penance, bad luck wise

  289. hockeymonster says:

    My beef with PM is that he’s consistently the only dman on the roster that gets beat not doing the most basic things. Boxing out getting shoulder to shoulder and lifting sticks is the most basic thing you could do while defending your net. And the last 2+ season PM has consistently refused or is incapable of defending the front of the net which is why I wanted to trade him at the deadline when his value was sky high after having a very good stretch the last half of the season. Comparing letang to PM is absurd…eaton has been over exposed and should’ve been rested down the stretch along with orpik. Despres and bortuzzo should’ve played more down the stretch…that’s why I think despres is getting hammered unfairly. He’s rusty right now and it showed in game 3.

    But about PM his issues are much different and basically revolve around him being “SOFFFF” :)

  290. Iceman says:

    So all the other defensmen get a free pass for their bad play, but Paul Martin gets blamed for everything. I see your logic there…

  291. Iceman says:

    At least he’s not on the cover of Madden.

  292. Jandy says:


  293. Jandy says:

    See? Save it ;)

  294. Patrick says:

    For gods sake…
    1) They won game 1 by shutout. So how you make any arguement that the defense or anyone on it was poor, substandard or a “pylon” is absurd. If he had hit everything that moved would the Isles have had negative goals?
    2) Watch the penalty Strait took on Sid and try to comprhend what people mean when they say “positional defensemen”. Strait tried to lean on Sid and gave up the inside hip to one of the worst players you should try that on. Crosby spun off of him just like Jagr and in one step had beat Strait to the net. THATS THE KIND OF MISTAKE PM DOESNT MAKE. You don’t have to hit everything that moves to be effective. PM uses position and skating to keep his man to the outside and against the boards. He forces his man to going to a chunk of ice where he isnt a threat to score. If he was a boxer, he would use footwork to cut off the rink and force his opponent into the corner.
    3) This is straight up criticism of how much he makes, not how he plays. Mark Eaton plays the same way but no one criticizes him for being less physical, but only because he makes far less. Don’t let salary cloud or taint your opinions.

    Good is good. Bad is bad. PM is the former.

  295. Jandy says:

    yeah so do I, but Spunky gave me a lecture for it ;)

  296. Brandie says:

    Both good and bad. Worked 10 hours yesterday. Tired. Working on getting my act together.

  297. Brandie says:

    I can’t post until someone says my name.

  298. hockeymonster says:

    PM’s mistakes are much harder to correct due to him being “SOFFFF” is my biggest point!

  299. Jandy says:

    Patrick, don’t be so condescending, like I am ;)

  300. Jandy says:

    ACK! I know how that feels, and it’s not good. Did that or a week and a half not long ago working no a bid. End of the day you’re brain dead.
    Keep on keepin’ on girl. My prayers and good vibes are still flowing for ya :)

  301. Jandy says:

    Does typing it count? :P


  302. hockeymonster says:

    Hold those thoughts and keep watching Patrick…

    P.S. eaton makes 800k and PM makes 5M…watch eaton box out in front of the net and lift sticks then watch PM

    …to be continued…

  303. Patrick says:

    Nik Lindstrom would go games at a time without recording a single hit. Please…someone…anyone….go ahead and call Nik Lindstrom “sofff”

  304. hockeymonster says:

    he’s not…he’s just stating his opinion like I was…

  305. Iceman says:

    Ya I know. Don’t feed the trolls.

  306. Kevin says:

    I’m an Eaton fan and got to say, I kinda bought into the Paulie Martin criticism but what you say makes much sense. Thanks Patrick!

  307. Brandie says:

    Whew, thank you.

  308. hockeymonster says:

    Ha…ok your right…martin is no different than letang AND lidstrom…

    now im being condescending :)

  309. Patrick says:

    YYeeaaa…thats what i said.

    Boy you really caught me there.

    Boy do I feel silly for comparing Lindstrom to Martin.

  310. Jim S. says:

    Really, that was amazing. Coming back from a concussion with a hat trick. I’ll take 2 tonight, if he can’t quite pull it off completely again!

  311. Jandy says:


  312. Jandy says:

    Kevin, if you click on Patricks name (see it’s blue like a hyperlink) it will take you to his blog, and it’s great reading. Cracks me up!

  313. Jandy says:

    hey, don’t mention it ;)

  314. hockeymonster says:

    Troll? Just cuz im voicing my opinion that our highest paid dman is sofff in front of the net? You maybe comfortable with that but im not and haven’t been since the tampa series…not trolling just consistent!

  315. Jandy says:


  316. Jandy says:

    And all I want to know is….yellow or green?

  317. Arriba Wilver says:

    OK, OK, he said it once. :-)

    (What the hey do I know, anyway, especially about hockey?)

  318. Iceman says:

    So you say Paul Martin is “Soff.” I decided to check some stats to see how “Soff” he is.

    These are all playoff stats taken from the NHL website:

    5 Blocked Shots is second on the team.
    +4 is first on the team.
    25:36 Time-on-ice is second on team.
    3:35 Short Handed Time-on-ice is second on the team (First for defensemen).
    Penguins PK is currently at 90.9, fourth of any team in the playoffs.
    He has three hits (same as Engelland, Niskanen, and more than Crosby, Malkin, Eaton, Jokinen, and Sutter).

    Man he sure is soft and worthless isn’t he…

  319. Jandy says:

    You’re way too rational, Iceman ;)

  320. Jandy says:

    that’s all I want to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  321. Jandy says:

    You know, what color the crayon missing from the box is…

  322. hockeymonster says:

    Now that you studied up on stats go take a look at 1st 2 goals against in game 2. Then put together stats of plays PM didnt make cuz he didn’t want to TAKE a hit. Theres a whole lengthy reel of lowlights where PM didn’t pick up his guy by the net didn’t lift sticks and didn’t want to take a hit to make a play…

    Look we didn’t trade him, he’s here so im rooting for him…but i’m allowed to call him out when he doesn’t do basic things conducive to the playoffs…letangs and eatons and etc…their mistake are correctable usually…PM’s mistakes however are harder to correct for reasons I’ve been stating for 2+ seasons.

  323. Original Ether says:

    What’s actually amazing is that they are doing this while not having the full allotment of scholarships. That will change next year in the ACC; they’ll be fully funded.

    The team should be even better provided the above mentioned players stay another year.

  324. Iceman says:

    Look I admitted that Martin left something to be desired in the first 2.5 games, but you keep saying it can’t be corrected. The article I posted from The Pens Blog shows that Martin did correct things by the end of game three. I know that it is impossible to convince you to look at the other side, so I can only hope that Martin has a great game in game 4.

  325. theplanisworking says:

    Mark Madden has a cover?

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