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Final: Pirates 4, Brewers 3, 12 innings

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (21-17) vs. Milwaukee Brewers (16-20)

Starters: LHP Jeff Locke vs. RHP Kyle Lohse

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Jose Tabata, RF
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, 1B
  5. Neil Walker, 2B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Locke, LHP

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.

235 Comments

  1. TODAY’S LINE

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.

    Total STOLEN BASES by the Brewers in tonight’s game.
    Line is 1.5

    Good Luck!!

  2. I probably missed it.. but did someone explain why the pirates really sucked last night against the brew-crew? How they basically stole bases at will? How our 8th guy was the first to get a hit off their starter? Is that summed up somewhere?

  3. Nice to see Martin back in…as long as his head is attached to his neck, he needs to be out there after last nights fiasco.

    • Yes! I love the Fort, and all he represents, but I can’t watch him at this point… at least for a few nights my eyes need a break.

      • It might be time for Tony Sanchez to come up and learn from Martin. I too am a fan of the Fort, but his defense is more of a hinder than anything.

        • The Fort might have become the Pirates poster child for the small sample size argument.

          Guy looked great when he was slugging homeruns and just as bad defensively as the other awful catcher on the roster. Now, not so much.

          I’d still hate to lose him from the organization since we all know how often catchers break, but it seems hard not to think Sanchez is the better backup at this point.

          • I agree. So much was said about Barajas’ lack of defense last year that he made it seem a little bit better.

            • Fort is fine ’1-day a week’ backup catcher and good character guy for the clubhouse… that’s all he is. I don’t think that is a good role for Sanchez… at this point, he either plays well enough to become the starting catcher (and he isn’t there yet) or he keeps trying in AAA.

              I don’t see that happening in 2013, chemistry and karma are too important to jettison the Fort in a pennant race. But the clock is ticking…in 2014, I see only 2 scenarios if Sanchez is indeed gonna play for the Bucs at all in his career… 1) he is the starting catcher and Martin is traded away 2) he is the backup but plays 30% of the time or more with Martin getting more starts at 3B/1B etc.

  4. Grilli might not be available tonight. Reportedly dealing with family issues.

  5. I think this lineup is the best one the Bucs can put out right now. Good enough to beat the Crew?

  6. Just wondering why Snider isn’t in the line-up?

    • He’s still on the Snide.

    • Read my mind, Biz. Anyone else getting the deja vu feeling from Clint Hurdle?

      Lets see…Travis Snider hits well for about a month, gets kind’ve injured, says he’s all better, yet still loses half his playing time. This is 2012 all over again, folks.

      In 2012 he posted a .271/.360/.375 slash line over his first 111 PA, missed 5 games, pinch hit in the next 4, then only got starts in 6 of the last 13 games.

      In 2013 he posted a .305/.388/.424 slash line over his first 67 PA, missed 3 games, pinch hit in the next 3, then got 6 starts in the next 10 games.

      That’s almost too similar to believe. I don’t particularly have a problem with Tabata starting over him. I think they’re close to being the same player at this point.

      What I don’t get is why Hurdle thinks either of them will thrive in this role. When has EITHER player EVER thrived in a part time role? I truly don’t get it.

    • I really think that Clint is giving all 3 competing for the spot (remember, Gaby Sanchez can play 1b and Jones play RF) a chance to step up and claim the full-time job…. in the spring, it looked like Gaby at 1B and Jones in RF (with Tabby spotting him against Lefties) was going to be the plan, but then Snider got off to a great start and Clint rode with the hot bat. Now that Snider has cooled somewhat, he is giving Tabby and Gaby some games against RHPs (Gaby started yesterday vs. the inexiplicably tough against the Bucs Estrada) to see if one of them can step forward….

      I like it, for many reasons…competition is good; someone might claim the job and rediscover their potential to be impact players (taby/gaby/snider all have that); and if nothing else, it keeps all players sharp and contributing vs. just straight platoons.

      I personally think Tabby’s plate approach has been great..and Gaby has been really productive… Snider to me is the weakest of the 3.

      • I understand the idea of competion, except Sanchez has always sucked against RHP (.710 career OPS), Tabby has sucked against everyone for the last year and a half, and neither Snider or Tabby have responded well to part time roles in the past.

        Does not make any sense to me to pull Sniders playing time 100 PA into the season. He’s far from a black hole in the lineup.

        Give one of them, any of them, a legit chance and quit playing musical chairs.

        • It seems to me Clint has probably settled on a platoon in both spots with the occasional chance for Tabby/Gaby against select RHPs…nothing wrong with that. Snider isn’t going to play everyday anyway as he will sit vs. lefties…. given that, and the occasional ‘ride the hot hand’ start or ‘hunch’ start, this is what it will be, or as you term it ‘musical chairs’.

        • NMR et al…. before going crazy on Hurdle for lineups every day, please check baseball-reference.com for splits v. a specific pitcher. Here are the PBC hitters splits against Loshe:

          Lohse vs. Pirates: Alvarez 5-18, Barmes 2-11, Inge 9-27, Jones 6-25, Martin 2-6, McCutchen 9-27, McDonald 3-10, McKenry 2-5, Sanchez 1-7, Snider 1-3, Tabata 10-21, Walker 8-20

          Yeah, let’s bury Tabata’s 10-21 so we can play Snider’s 1-3. Great call.

          • Before going crazy on Baseball Reference, look up the definition of small sample sizes, Chief.

            • Hey chief…try telling that to every MLB manager. If you know baseball, you know how valuable success, no matter how small, vs a specific pitcher is. Ok… so, keep that in mind. That doesn’t come from me… that comes from every manager in baseball.

              • Oh, you’ve spoken to them, eh?

                I’ll keep that in mind next time.

                What a ridiculous statement.

        • NMR…. a Snider-Tabata platoon right now is pretty darn good… they get on base and they score runs. And when you have a guy hitting nearly .500 in 21 at bats with a double, triple and HR v. a pitcher, you play him.

          • You mean the platoon that Hurdle was using pre-injury, right? The one I’m suggesting he return to using.

            Because a platoon is nothing near what has been used since April 24.

            • great stuff coach NMR… you don’t Snider a job just wishing he does well. You put him and your team in the situation that will best give them an opportunity to win. If that’s platooning them or playing matchups, you do it. Snider isn’t good enough right now to get 500 at bats in RF, at least that’s what these starting lineups are saying.

              I’m sure when Snider turns up with a 5 for 11 or 10 for 21 history against a certain pitcher, he’ll start. Get over the sample sizes and realize the value of every experience v. every pitcher in the majors.

              Every manager in baseball refers to them. Every day. Every game. Every matchup. They know what a Player X does against Pitcher Y. Every game, every at bat.

              • Did you read anything I wrote?

                I’m not wishing anything on Snider, and certainly not 500 at-bats.

                My only suggestion was that he be used in a patoon, like you said.

                That has not happened since his injury. This isn’t complicated.

              • I believe there were three times since his injury that that may have happened… and in all three instances, this being the third, Tabata has had really strong numbers v. that SP.

                I would certainly take a straight platoon with these guys or a platoon-plus situation that leans on favorable matchups as well as lefty-righty situation.

              • Take a peek at the article that just went up on Fangraphs. You’ll know which one. I promise I’m not the author.

                Then go back to baseball reference and see that half of Tabby’s hits came in 2010, when Tabby was actually good.

    • Tabata is a career 10 for 21 against Lohse.

    • Tabata owns Lohse, hitting somewhere around .450 – .500 against him.

  7. Any news at all on the the seriousness of the Grilli family issue?

  8. Is it just me, or do you guys notice that Cutch is back into the “pull the ball all the time” black hole? I’m hoping to be wrong, but in the Mets series the announcers kept saying how Cutch “just missed” his pitch and the result was sky-high flyouts to left field or popouts to shortstop or 3B…. we NEED Cutch to be a catalyst in this offense… great news is we are MUCH less dependent on him than in years past, but I really want to see Cutch hitting it hard to RF/CF pronto.

    • Be patient young grasshopper. It will come. Baseball is a tough sport to stay locked in. He is too good of a hitter with too good of hands and bat speed to not finish every year batting at least .290. Before you know it he will be hitting line drives to every part of the field. I just hope there is a legitimate 4th and 5th batter behind him when it happens to either make teams pitch to him or make them pay for pitching around him.

  9. Alright peeps. I’m heading out before the daily argument breaks out in earnest.
    Catch you all tomorrow.
    Go Bucs!!

    • Ummmmm………..before. The platoon discussion above doesn’t count as an argument?

      I am willing to argue with you about that being arguement but it will have to wait as I am heading home as soon as I hit the submit comment button.

      Thanks for running the window playoffs. It is appreciated.

  10. Brandon Inge is 9-27 with 2 HR and a 1030 OPS against Lohse.

    Why isn’t he playing? Every manager plays the odds every game!!!!!!!

  11. Interesting stuff about that Valdespin of the Mets. Sounds like a wonderful teammate

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/baseballinsider/2013/05/new-details-of-weekend-drama-involving-ny-mets-jordany-valdespin-yankees-gra

    DK: This is the guy Bryan Morris plunked, right?

  12. Heard on the Fan that since 2008 the Pirates have lost 2 of 3 at PNC against the Brewers.

  13. I think Cryin’ Bryan gave some of his stash to Segura. Come on Locke. Bare down.

  14. Here we go boys! Everyone hits!!

  15. Get the runner in

  16. Tabata now 9-19 in month of May, .473.

    Ball had no carry for Cutch who barreled that up pretty good.

    • Those damp conditions again. Hopefully tomorrow will be different. He also hit it to the wrong part of the field, but at least it wasn’t pulled as much as he usually does. He’ll get one sooner or later – hopefully tonight.

  17. New ballgame

  18. Got the run back. 1-1 new ballgame. Come on Walker. How about a hit here.

  19. Squaring up a lot of balls that are just a few feet from getting out of park…Cutch and Alvarez both hit them well.

  20. The other thing that may be countering these shots by the Bucs is the high arcs of the hits themselves. If they were more on a line drive trajectory, we may be seeing a lot of homeruns last night and tonight. just my thought though. Anyone else seeing it that way?

  21. Locke looks sharp. Just made one bad pitch that cost him big time.

  22. Barmes it hottt lol

  23. Can’t waste a lead off double. Get him in.

  24. Tabby owns Loshe

  25. Nobody but Tabata.

  26. 2-1 good guys in the Pens game, but now 2-1 bad guys in this game with two doubles in the inning.

  27. Heads up play by Pedro to get Gomez at second.

  28. Get the run back

  29. Locke seems flustered by taking that ball off the ankle. He needs to find it again and keep this to a 1 run deficit. Now as I type, they get another run cause Walker can’t field that ball cleanly. 3-1 now.

  30. Go cry back to the bench Braun. Nice throw by Russell.

  31. Third time for the lineup, lets get back on the hit parade and get some runs!

  32. The Mets, Brewers, and lately, the Pirates, look to be pretty lousy teams.

  33. Walker slowing up going into second and that kept him from scoring on that gap double by Russell. Come on Barmes! Bull call at first. Barmes looked to beat that throw. Run at least scores, and now it is 3-2.

  34. I blame the black softball jerseys and lame alternate caps they’ve been wearing lately.

  35. Locke deserves a break. Marte is my choice for the guy who can do it.

  36. Starling has been a Star..let’s hope he continues…. Just a hit please

  37. The Pirates are just not cashing in on their chances, they have to find a way to break through on this team.

  38. 8-PH-1 for them this inning, then 2-3-4 for us, so they need to get back in and get some hits together to take the lead. I believe they need to stop trying to hit the game tying homerun all the time and just HIT the ball. If it goes far enough to get over the fence, great, but at least do something to get on base.

  39. [Chanting] Runs! Runs! Runs! Runs!

  40. Baseball Gods owe us some. Come on Cutch!

  41. Can somebody hit the ball, please?

  42. Must be nice having an all star outfielder that actually gets hits.

  43. If we keep saying it it might happen…Get some runs!

  44. Axford can be had, this could be a blessing

  45. Alright, lead off single, need to string a few more AB’s together. Starts with you Pedro.

  46. Pedro needs to come through here. Come on Bull!

  47. Pedro swings at ball 4 and Ks for the third time tonight.

  48. Liking Martin more and more.

  49. Martin! Walker was stumbling and bumbling but made it home….tied up!

  50. Martin comes through, and the relay is way over the head of the catcher to score the tying run. Nice gamble.

  51. Martinnnnnnnnn !!!!

  52. Why do you swing at the FIRST PITCH Barmes?

  53. 12 not so much.

  54. Urgh Barmes just needed to get ball in air. Time for some two out magic.

  55. That 2-0 pitch to Snider was same pitch that Alvarez struck out on.

  56. Swing with a purpose, lunch box.

  57. So much for that. Great clutch AB there.

  58. At least they got one run, but these guys need to start determining when the pitch is ball 4 and stop swinging at it. 3-3 going into the 9th, for probably Mazzaro.

  59. 0 for 10 with runners in scoring position tonight. See if we can improve on that tonight and the next several games.

  60. It didn’t workout so well, last time Grilli came in with the score tied.

  61. Much better, this time :)

  62. The Grill Master Ks the side. Come on top of the order. All we need is one.

  63. Grilli disposes the Brewers quickly and easily with a K, K, and for good measure another K. Let’s get him a run top of the order and make him a winner.

  64. Welcome to those keeping up with the Winning Pens (4-1 victory). Bucs hopefully will follow with a walk off!!

  65. Is this Figaro guy related to the barber of Seville?? ;)

  66. Thanks to the Ump calling that foul as Tabata comes through with a double. Get him in now Cutch, your do!!

  67. TABATA! Smoked that ball to right center gap, double in scoring position, bring him home.

  68. Nobody but Tabata!

  69. Jones time

  70. Tabby’s starting to look like 2010. But someone needs to teach him how to do the Z correctly. :-)

  71. Don’t look now but 3-4 day has Tabata at .299, showing life like he did rookie year.

  72. Hate to say it, but I would pitch around Jones . . .

  73. * groan*

  74. Anything but a freakin DP.

  75. The shift bite them in the ass.

  76. Jones can’t sting the ball any harder than that, hit right into the shift.

  77. Please don’t be the 19 inning game for the year! Lets avoid that this year, please.

  78. OK Melancon gets through the Brewers heart of the order, let’s finish this off now.

  79. Time for Pedro to earn his scholarship.

  80. It’s time.

  81. Pedro is due and bats second. Get on for him Walker!

  82. Okay Pedro – move him over or bring him in.

  83. They should have bunted Pedro there. Luck the error occurred or it would have been two.

  84. Hard slide????

  85. If Martin puts it where he did this time where he did last at bat – no way Pedro makes it from first to home without running out of gas.

  86. Pedro lucked out on that steal, but way to stay on the bag!! Bring him home Martin.

  87. How about some heads up running by Alvarez taking the chance and making it…hit now may bring him in.

  88. More than one way to justify a scolarship.

  89. I thought sure Pedro was out, but on replay Weeks missed the tag.

  90. A Barmes home run here?

  91. Be a hero Clint

  92. 0-15 with RISP, at some point you have to cash in…too many chances going for naught.

  93. Oh oh, Mazzaro in.

  94. If they would have cut McDonald and kept Mercer there wouldn’t have been this delay.

  95. Five shutout innings turned in by bullpen, offense get them a well deserved win, time to punch one home.

  96. Who will be the hero? Starling?

  97. McDonald should go out and Punch Braun dead in the face for catching that ball.

  98. I can’t believe that

  99. That is the third time this season, McDonald has been robbed of an extra base hit. Just snake bitten.

  100. Unless it is a crushed line drive, no homeruns are going to happen tonight. Gap shots!

  101. Awesome , Inge forced in at SS and bobbles play.

  102. He looks like he’s drugged up those eyes are just creepy

  103. Braun i mean

  104. Take that Cryin! Get some runs now 3-4-5!!!!

  105. Mazzaro forces Mr. PED into inning ending DP….how about Cutch walk off, one swing is all it takes.

  106. CUTCH!!!!!!! 4-3 in 12!!!!

  107. Now THAT is how you win a game!

  108. He was due, he’s been close a lot lately.

  109. Behind six shutout innings turned in by the Pirates bullpen, a key 8th inning RBI from Russell Martin and a walk off HR by Andrew McCutchen the Bucs earn a come from behind victory downing the Brewers 4-3 in 12 innings to even the series and there was nooooooooooooo doubt about it!

    With the win the Pirates are back to a season best five games above .500 at 22-17, 7-5 in May. The Bucs will look to make it two straight tomorrow might when Wandy Rodriguez toes the rubber for the Pirates.

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  110. Did I really just see that.. a bomb from Andrew McCutchen to win it?

    Pirates have 2 of 3 from Milwaukee….

  111. No long losing streaks.

  112. Anybody watch mlb network trio assessing Pirates after walkoff? Consensus: 86-76. Host guy is very pro -Pirates.

  113. At about the 10th inning, the thought came into my mind: If this game goes long, wouldn’t it better if Mercer was available to pinch-hit as opposed to McDonald?

    • You probably got your wish..McDonald left the ame with lower back problems. Mercer will probably be back.

      • Was it McDonald or Barmes that left with the injury?

        And is there a rule that if a player is sent back to the minors they can’t be recalled to the majors for at least 10 days?

    • Maybe now the Pirates get a break and can DL McDonald for awhile.

      I figure he hurt himself either with the swing, or throwing his helmet back into the stall.

      Either way, they should not waste a second, by bringing Mercer back up, and DL John McDonald.

      • Any truth to the rumor that NH saw McDonald throw his helmet and phoned down to the dugout and told them to have McDonald come up with the popular ‘phantom injury’?

        :-)

      • If they win tomorrow , which is a big fat If, when is the last time they won 2 in a row against the Brauns?.

        Nice win though!, and this Mazzaro guys seems to be pitching a lot better since he got rid of that wolfman look he had been sporting.

  114. Props to Russell Martin. Now beat Al Lardo and clinch a split like they’ve been doing.

  115. ‘Third base coach Nick Leyva waved Walker home.’

    RB quickly got the game story on the Trib’s web site. But he may want to double-check that part.

  116. Travelling from Florida for four games!!!

    Couldn’t have been more than 200 people in the stands at the end of that game

    Pedro is horrible…rally killer…nowhere near making contact

    Cutch is just awesome…covers so much ground out in center

    Tabata appears to jog after balls hit to him

    Our pitching, man, is solid

    Stay tuned for more reports, lol

    • Just saw the recap on MLB Network. Man, you weren’t kidding about those stands being empty. In the first when Segura hit it out, it didn’t look like there was a soul out there in the left-field stands.

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