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Final: Pirates 1, Tigers 0, 11 innings

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (31-20) vs. Detroit Tigers (29-20)

Starters: RHP Jeanmar Gomez vs. RHP Rick Porcello

Time: 7:08 p.m.

Site: Comerica Park, Detroit

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, DH
  5. Russell Martin, C
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  8. Travis Snider, RF
  9. Clint Barmes, SS

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. Well, lets get the split tonight

      • I would like a banana split, please. Extra pineapple. ;)

        Gomez needs a good outing…….. Tigers lineup is tough.

    • Well, in Detroit. This is kind of weird, but it’s essentially a 4 game set. So, a win tonight only puts us at 1 of 2.

      Still 2 in Pittsburgh to go….

      DK: Still waiting for that first shred of evidence to support your accusation in the previous thread that I used to write money will solve everything for a sports team.

      It’s patently untrue, and any number of regulars here can back me on it.

      • I still need to learn to trust Jeanmar a little bit. He has been clutch pretty much all year, and really a savior for this team. But, I seem to recall a little too much about his career in the AL to trust him vs. Detroit.

        Then, again, I could see us getting to the Mushroom Man (Portobello, or Porcello, or whatever).

      • DK, I didn’t mean that at all!

        It was poking fun at some of the commenters on your old blog site, not at you. If it came off that way, I apologize.

        I know you’ve never written anything of the such!

        DK: Your comment made direct reference to the writer. I never thought — much less wrote — any such thing related to any team anywhere in any sport.

        • I think this is the comment you’re referring to:

          “Well, it was kind of poking fun at the old days…when DK was beat writer for the Bucs on the “other” team.”

          I was just trying to speak to your old blog on the PG site.

          Again, I apologize if it came off that way. I know you have never written any such thing. I’ve been following your work now for a few years, and have you ever seen me question you about this? Absolutely not, because you’ve never written anything like that!

        • Hey, I took issue with Nate’s comment regarding other posters, but I NEVER thought he was talking about you, DK. Time to back off. You are totally overreacting.

      • I have to say, Nate, I don’t recall anything like that from Dejan. Maybe another writer?

        • Haha.

          It wasn’t meant as a shot at DK.

          I know he’s never written anything like that.

          I was just harkening back to his PG days when a lot of his blog posts would erupt into the same arguments about management.

          Between us blog commenters/posters.

          Not DK.

          Again, wasn’t directed at DK. And again, I apologize if it came off that way.

        • Man, I reaaallllyyy didn’t think Nate even came close to saying it was Dejan himself who said that.

          • Neither did I. That’s nowhere near what I read.

          • I just read the post because I didn’t see it either, but I could see how DK responded that way, it does seem to be put on him, but after hearing Nate’s actual thought process, I see his also.

            DK: OK, that’s fine. I understand. There’s a tendency among a small but vocal few in the Pirates’ fan base to try to paint me into some kind of cartoon character as it relates to this franchise, and most of what they attribute to me just flat-out isn’t true. This sounded a lot like that sort of thing.

            Back to the column …

            • Minor misunderstanding.

              • I think the “Must be new here” comment might have read that way. As in, “Must be new to this guy’s blog who always writes stuff like this”.

                I opened a whole case of cans of worms.

                I guess once you pop the fun don’t stop (do I have to pay money for writing that?)……….

              • *BRO HUG*

            • DK: work, work, work……that’s what we always say too when the boss comes around.

            • There’s also a few, yet vocal Pirates fans that may, or may not have a clue as to what they are talking about.

      • OK I’m gonna duck for now…later…

      • Yeah check with Drew he keeps all of Dk’s posts and whatnots.

      • JohninOshkosh: Hi Dejan-Your coverage at the All Star came has been exceptional. Will the uptick in attendance factor into the Pirates ability or desire to enter into contract extensions with players currently under contract?

        Dejan Kovacevic: More money earned should mean more money to spend. Absolutely.

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  2. Cutch being Cutch…

    Or Cutch killing time…

    “@TheCUTCH22 7m

    Rain rain go away…got a game we have to play”

  3. I feel like this week with the Penguins is like the extra week before the Super Bowl.

    There is nothing new to talk about! Therefore, we make up stuff.

    Will Marc Andre Fleury play his next game naked!?

    It’s time to focus our attention on the Pirates, who are real and alive and 11 games over .500 and PLAYING——tonight!!

    In a day or two, when we know the schedule of the next Pens game, we can come back to whining about what line Iginla should play on——when he is ACTUALLY PLAYING!

    Go Bucs! Burnett versus Anibal Sanchez looks delightful!

    DK: Agreed about making up stuff.

  4. Have to say interesting to see Snider dropped all the way down to the #8 spot, thought he did a very nice job filling in for Marte yesterday atop the lineup.

    Walker has a hot bat and CH elects to use him in the #2 hole. However if Gaby can carry the momentum over from yesterday when he pounded on some RHP, the bottom of this lineup has a little potency to it.

    Hoping the skies clear out that way and we can get back into the W column.

    • Snider stepped up big time, yesterday. But good to have Marte back where he belongs.

      • Snider did crush that one to RF. And he had a single. He did miss that one off the 3rd base wall that carromed past him. I thought that was a tough one to read, especially for a guy that usually plays RF. But, I also bet Marte would have grabbed it. Too bad, because it cost a big run.

        • What impressed me about his triple was that he hit it completely off-balanced. Nothing left in his swing but hands and still flicked it almost 400′.

          Go ahead and get the laugh track ready, but the kid DOES have legit power in that body. I’d love to see what he could do if he ever learned to hit off a stiff front leg and shorten his load.

        • Three big hits for Snider, yesterday. I think he’s working out nicely as a fourth — heck, make it third and a half — outfielder for us. He and Tabby are shaping up as super 3 1/2′s, sort of like Bill Robinson / Lee Lacy/ John Milner / Mike Easler were for us in ’79.

          • Maybe people still see him as a 4th OF type because he’s not the prototypical big power numbers right fielder, but he’s outpacing the league average triple slash line for the position this year (.257/.325/.415).

            • I was critical of Snider for not being the hitter he used to be, power-wise. But, he has really turned up the juice over the last month. Tons of doubles, and a couple of long balls.

          • Loved those old Bucs, Ghost. Thanks for the reminder! If there were more perfect OF & 1b platoons in baseball history, I don’t recall them. Those guys could all rake, and they had power too. I remember Chuck Tanner as being great at taking advantage of platoons. It takes a certain kind of player to handle that role. He has to be mature enough to put the team first and do his job one day, then get a couple off, then do it again. Sounds simple, but it is very hard.

          • Still critical, but I can get over that rather quickly.

            Thoughts on moving him UP in the lineup? I personally don’t see it, but he has as much power as NW.

            Can he produce in an RBI situation?

    • 8th is the new 7th this week, JRay!

    • He did well at lead off, but no way do I see him anywhere else in this DH added lineup but where he is….8th

    • Gaby’s the key to interleague success for this team.

      Clint has stuck with him vs. RHP despite being awful, but when Jones is the DH, Gaby’s the only option at 1B.

      I will say that it’s a bit of a mystery to me as to why Gaby has been so bad. I know he’s never been good necessarily, but still much better than he’s shown so far for the Pirates. The guy even seems to take decent at-bats against righties. Hopefully it’s just bad luck working itself out.

    • Isn’t there a retractable roof on that stadium?

  5. Is the 7:08? Really? the Pittsburgh start time or local?

    I’ve lived out here for 3 years now and still have a hard time with the time differential.

    • 7:08 ET. Detroit is still in the Eastern Time Zone, as is the western side of the state. Sun goes down about 9:30 in the summer.

      • So true! I used to travel to Detroit for work many years ago, and I always loved that in July you could finish the work day & still hustle to the course and get 18 holes in!

      • My bad, thought they were central TZ.


    Big THANK YOU to Frankie for posting yesterday’s line for me.

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.

    Total Combined RUNS BATTED IN by Garret Jones + Pedro Alvarez in tonight’s game
    Line is 2.5

    Good Luck!!

  7. DK– there is no way Nate was suggesting you had said in the past that spending money would solve all the Pirates woes. And it wasn’t even close. I think you owe him an apology. What you’ve said so far isn’t sufficient in my book.

  8. For right now, at least (4:20 p.m.), another DK sighting.

    • I would think you ought not push that, Ghosty. That guy doesn’t remotely resemble DK. More like Plan’s purple girl above.

    • I dont get it.

    • I don’t think you look anything like Chris Christie, DK.

    • No, DK does not even remotely look like Christie. It was just the angle of the photo I saw last night. Then splashed across Yahoo!News’ landing page, I saw the latest photo with the “Bromance” caption.
      Just a gag for a gag’s sake. Gag is now over with forever (maybe).

      But things are a little tight in here right now, folks. Let’s all loosen up and just enjoy the evening.

  9. One Boston station is stating that Game 1 against the Bruins will be 8PM on Saturday.

  10. Will there ever be a day there isn’t any more animosity between DK and Pirates fans?

    • It seems like someone in the Pirates organization must have pi$$es in his corn flakes or something , when he was a beat writer

    • Animosity? “ill will or resentment tending toward active hostility”

      You sure thats the word you want to use?

      Dejan presents a forum in which he invites comments and interactions. Unless you want all flowers and rainbows, all of them aren’t going to be in agreement.

      • Really? Defintions of the words now…..pretty sure that’s what he meant. There seem to be a few, I’d say minority, that prefer things to be that way.

      • How would you describe it?

        • Disagreement. No more, no less.

          There might be a couple guys here who seem to consistantly try to make Dejan something he isn’t.

          Otherwise, we sometimes just plain don’t agree with him. These are all opinions. Thats gonna happen.

          It seems like Dejan is aware of the cowards on other blogs who trash talk him while knowing they can approach him directly on here. THEY clearly hold some amount of animosity towards him.

          By and large, especially on this forum, that doesn’t exist. We just don’t always agree. Simple.

          DK: I will agree with — and respect — all of that. It’s taken almost all of the fun out of ever writing about this team, I’ll add.

          Doesn’t mean I won’t do it. Obviously, I’ll do it even when knee-deep in another assignment. And I’ll do it to the very best of my ability in every case.

  11. What’s the cure for a migraine headache ? Apparently a 6.28 ERA.

  12. Okay… Anyway, before all kinds of things started happening at once around here, NMR had commented on my comment on Travis Snider. To which I reply: Snider has answered the bell admirably every time, this season. If he wins over the right field spot, that would be fine by me. I wasn’t happy during the off-season with the impression the FO was giving that the position was his to lose. (No, I can’t recall any specific comments. But I was hardly the only one who had gotten that message.) Nevertheless, as NMR aptly pointed out at the beginning of the season, Snider was not, in fact, being run out there every day. Since then, Snider has, indeed, performed.
    Whether Snider becomes a full-time starter, or if he is continued to be used in the capacity he is presently, I’m pretty content.

    • I would still rather see more power come from the RF slot, but that’s just a preference of mine. He’s done well.

      • My preference is the same it was in ST: keep running him and Tabby out there and may the best man win. If not, the platoon idea ain’t bad either. Some don’t like platoons, but it worked great for Chuck Tanner in ’79.

        • I dont have a problem with the platoon option either, but if these 2 continue the way they are going, I’d look for an available power hitter out there.

          I also like Jones in RF and Gabby at 1B.

          That is currently the best power option.

          I’m not sold on Snider, but I do like what he’s been doing lately. He’s still only hitting .266

      • If you get the power from the other three corner spots, plus CF. Then I can live with it.

    • Sorry for the third-person voice, NMR. I think you’re still in the room.

    • I think Travis and the oft-injured Tabata will build a decnt bridge to Polanco in 2015 or so. As long as Snider continues to improve with his power, as he has over the past 30 games or so, I have no problem with him as the lefty half of a platoon. If he proves he can handle the ABs vs. lefties also, so much the better.

  13. I’m not real sure I understand the obsession of “power” that so many have, bloggers and non-bloggers alike. Seems to me the Bucs lineup has enough power really…rather than being concentrated in the so-called “power” positions (corner OF, 1B/3B), they have some power contribution from Catcher and 2B to balance not having “Lefty McThump” in RF.

    As it stands right now, the Bucs may get 15-20HRs from C, 1B, 2B, 3B, CF…and quite possibly LF.

    The Pirates problem is a poor batting average with RISP. More focus there and less on “power for powers sake” please.

    • Completely agreed.

      The Pirates are 5th in HR and 5th in ISO. Last year they finished 4th. They do not NEED any more power.

      The Pirates finished last season 14th in OBP. THAT is where they needed improvement.

      Snider, along with Gaby and Russell, brings that element to the team.

      • and I’m not even a sabre-geek.. I just go by what my eyes tell me when i watch every inning.

      • My only point about Snider’s power is that he was acquired to be a power bat, and then it seemed to me that he was undergoing some sort of a metamorphosis in which he stopped driving the ball when he arrived last year and on into this season until a month or so ago. I have admitted that I see him returning to a guy who is driving the ball with much more regularity now. You make a good point that this team has enough power from other sources that if it only gets 10 HR from RF it won’t be the end of the world for the offense.

        • not sure, I may have missed something in that Snider was “acquired to be a power bat”… whose opinion is that? Stated from Pirates FO? Clint Hurdle? Media? Bloggers?

          • Neal’s quote from the trade: “He’ll work the count, he’ll take a walk,” Huntington said. “He can use the whole field with authority.”

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            Seems to me he is as advertised.

            • Really? You don’t remember this guy’s entire minor league career and his first year or two at Toronto as being a power guy? Because that is exactly what he was. I even watched video of him in a HR contest in the minors. Everyone kept saying the Pirates needed a left-handed power bat, even to the point of naming the need “Lefty McThump.” I don’t think I imagined all of that. Last year he was not lifting the ball much, and the stats bore that out. I thought I observed that he was doing that again this year, and I speculated (as we all do here about everything) that he was remaking himself into a higher on base hitter, with minimal power – a lefty hitting Jose Tabata, if you will. But, I have admitted that I misjudged him. He is driving the ball again, and even though his HR #’s don’t yet reflect that, he is hitting a lot of 2b’s and scorching the ball to the gaps pretty frequently now. I think if he keeps this up the HR’s will continue to increase. Neal made a bunch of quotes after the trade, and I thought it was pretty well known that we were looking to add a power bat. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. Either way, I am happy that he is hitting the ball with authority more often in the air now, regardless of whether he was acquired to do that or not.

          • I don’t remember what the Pirates may have said they anticipated in getting from Snider when he was acquired. But I think the appetites of some of us may have been whetted by his 14 HR’s in 298 AB’s, two years prior when he was 22 years old.

            • Does anyone remember where the .dripping with power..started? Was it Sean Casey on MLB Network?

              DK: Blogger on FanGraphs credited it to a scout. Though there also are people who think I came up with it to make fun of the guy, which is not the case.

              • Not only do I not know the answer to this, but I also don’t know how he got the nickname “Lunchbox.”

              • I think it’s his twitter name, not sure

              • I dont think we need to get into the “dripping with power” discussion again.

                I like to joke around about it, but it was a topic of conversation on twitter about a month ago. There was a blogger (I think) with Toronto that came up with that.

                Also, the Lunchbox is part of his name on twitter. doesn’t do much with his account except send out random pictures of steak.

            • Cool, we can have an appetite for power in RF…that’s different from saying that Snider “was acquired to be a power hitter”. The former is what we WANT to happen, the latter is being used to opine that Snider is not living up to expectations…there is a difference, especially if it is alluded that the Front Office expected something he isn’t doing.

              Clint even said so a few days ago…”the only ones not worried about his power is US. We want him to be a good hitter again”

    • This team has problems but power isn’t one of them. Their problem is the only way they can score is with the homerun, yesterday notwithstanding. Yesterday’s game was quite encouraging in that regard. If these guys are to contend deep into the summer they need to become more consistent offensively. Plain and simple they need to score more runs, independent of the long ball.

    • By my use of the term power, I don’t necessarily mean HR’s, of course those are always nice.

      Power hitter meaning a RBI guy. Someone that can drive the ball for doubles, when it counts.

      HR’s are overrated and it is not what the Pirates need, they do need a legit #4-5 hitter. I dont think Jones is the guy and Pedro…….well. Ya know

  14. NMR:

    Responded to you on previous thread (I miss Bob calling them “windows”-always liked that).

    Did not know game thread was up.

  15. Jose Contreras to the Convenience List with “lower back inflammation”. Bryan Morris returns. Funny how these things seem to work themselves out.

    • AWESOME!

      • Interesting… in the course of a month, two situations like this have come about… Mercer sent down and JMac kept, only to go on DL a day or 2 later…now Morris/Contreras… do you think there is anything more to this… in that perhaps Clint wins the argument but not quick enough?

        • Could possibly be or could be one of they guys who pulled his back is 38 years old and the other is 41 years of age.

          I, too, have often wondered if other clubs have the same timely injuries the Bucs seem to have with struggling players.

          • not sure what team telecast it was, but last week i was watching on the satellite package and one of the announcers was alluding to “funny how timing works with injuries”…same concept. Cant recall the team though.

    • Sorry Milo, did not see your post…but have to agree funny how that worked out.

    • Who would have guessed. Is that going to end up being the 60 day CL, or turn into a DFA

    • Milo, you should have a good line about bad outings causing bad backs to accompany your gem from earlier today about how a 6.28 ERA is a cure for migraines.

  16. COntreras to 15 day DL with lower back inflammation, Morris recalled, hmmm.

  17. I see I missed all the fun.

    some kind of cartoon character

    I never checked how it related to the Pirates or a vocal few.

    But SOMEbody did a pretty good imitation of Snidely Whiplash.

  18. It’s Twitter Tuesday!!

    It’s Twitter Tuesday!!

  19. I have an avatar on gravatar how do I add it here.

  20. I got my answer lol

  21. Estimated opening pitch in Detroit 8:20 EST.

  22. Hey Hippo… we need a victory tonight… give the Tigers one of your patented ‘Hippo Hurricane Hollars’

    (Courtesy of Peter Potamus)

  23. The Reds are already up 3-0 after one.

    • Will the Reds and Cardinals ever lose? Have to keep pace and stay within striking distance. Good thing is there are plenty of chances remaining against both of those clubs with the division heavy scheduling.

      • I think that’s one reason there was such an over reaction, to yesterdays loss. Every loss seems so much bigger, due to StL and Cincy winning almost every day

  24. Things sure have changed. I’m watching The Reds/Indians…Bourne hits a ball to the wall (it’s caught) he comes back to the dugout and gets like 10 fist bumps…When has making an out deserve praise?

    Or am I missing something?

  25. Ok, being this is a TWITTER TUESDAY!!!!!!!!!!! (God help Us),

    Who are the twits?
    The Bucs?
    The Tigers?
    The announcers?
    The chick in the studioo having much difficulty reading?
    Or us, for listening to this dreck?

    Just glad the game has begun.

  26. Pacers start the game on an 11-0 run.

    Now 17-16 Heat.

    I’m dizzy.

    • What sport is that?

      If it is the one called The NBA, I hear you can just wait until the last 2 minutes to watch.

      • Ah, Pittsburgh.

        If they don’t love us, we don’t love them.

        • Don’t let the boss catch you talking NBA. I found out that he gets testy

          • Bert and Ermie – I suspect that Snidely is all Whiplashed out today.

            And about the NBA — this is the only sport that people complain that the games are close at the end. Scurrilous.

            I guess we miss those 20 point college basketball blowouts.

            • I miss Australian Rules Football.

              • It’s through for one behind.

              • I miss the Riverhounds

              • Milo, ARF was/is great.

                Hard hitting, bloody, insane action, almost constant motion…………………. and pom-poms the size of small buildings in the stands near the goal lines. That means even the fans must be tough to carry those things around……….

              • I hear you can just wait until the last 2 minutes to watch the Riverhounds lose.

            • Not lose—- tie.

            • I love basketball. It was my favorite sport to play growing up. I think NBA officiating is the worst, most dishonest officiating of any pro sport. LeBron averages about 1 foul per game. They orchestrate the outcome of nearly every game, but that’s just my opinion. I’ll take college hoops and constant effort any day.

  27. 6.28 has magically become 5.87.

  28. Credit where credit is due…2.75 has become 2.54 for Jeanmar Gomez against a far more imposing lineup.

    How about some support when these pitchers are firing some zeroes.

  29. Jeanmar is loading up the ball. Probably that Bullfrog sunscreen that everyone’s using. Watch him wipe his right hand around his left forearm just as he’s about to get the ball back from Martin. Look how shiny his left forearm is. How is this legal ?

    • I didn’t notice it. I’ll watch.I can’t see how it could be legal, on the mound.

      • Clay Buchholz has been doing it in Boston. They were too busy showing things other than the game last inning. I thought I noticed it last game, but then the rain delay came and he never went back out there.

    • He does it every time he gets a new ball.

  30. What a shock, the Cards are winning too.

  31. 55 pitches through 5 innings…. Gomez needs to get another 2-3 innings with that pitch count.

  32. Looks like it is starting to get to JMac according to the Altoona Mirror newspaper:

    “A peculiar scenario played out Monday when Garcia stepped out of the dugout to remove McDonald in the first inning. The pitcher made a little motion with his right hand, as if to suggest to Garcia that he didn’t want to come out, and the two appeared to exchange words on the mound for a few seconds.”

    • I don’t care that a player snaps at his coach.

      I care that he sucks.

      • Well Drew, both items you mention apply in this situation.

        At least the Bucs won last night and Gomez (JMac’s replacement in the rotation and a real upgrade, I might add) pitched another good game.

    • I saw in that article that JMac said that he didn’t realize how many pitches he had thrown and was up against his limit —so he wanted to tell Garcia that he was good-to-go.

      I’m not sure I am buying it.

  33. 48-47 Pacers at the half.

  34. How many times a year do we have to hear about some pitcher matching or setting a career high in strikeouts…just unreal have to put bat on ball.

  35. There’s an alarming quote from recent history “that equals his career strikeout total.”

  36. Watching game 7 between Sharks and Kings… someone is shaving their beard tonight.

    The way these two teams are playing… NHL might want both to forfeit and let Chicago and Detroit battle for 8 more games.

  37. Pedro has been very impressive on defense lately.

    • Very fair and good observation, he is making both the easy and difficult plays.

      • Very few guys at any positions make throws like Pedro does where the ball stays on a perfect line all the way across the field. He has an amazing arm.

  38. Gomez goes quickly through top of Tigers order in sixth. Can middle of Pirate lineup manufacture something off of a mediocre pitcher third go round?

    Can’t ask for much more from your fifth starter than what Gomez continues to give this team.

  39. Not often you see Cutch K multiple times in back to back games, and with that a season high for Porcello on the whiffs.

  40. Porcello last three starts against the Pirates, 1earned run in 21 1/3 innings, he may ask to be traded to the NL Central.

  41. Fine grab by McCutchen…

    • Saved potential extra bases…way this game is going need both defense and pitching to remain sharp.

    • I used to think Van Slyke was worth a run or two per game. Cutch is up there with him, even with a weaker arm.

      • As good as Cutch is in CF, and I think he is terrific, I really believe Marte is even better. He has a cannon. And, the word is this kid Polanco is right there with Marte. That will be one fun OF!

  42. hate to say it but the home plate umps have been a bit slanted toward the Tigers… yesterday was obvious, thought maybe it was verlander effect…but today porcello is getting close balls called strikes and Mr Gomez not so lucky.

    • This lineup just cannot hit power pitchers…maybe the umps are slightly biased, but then if that’s the case then we should rack up some K’s the next two games at home.

  43. Since Contreras was sent to the gulag somewhere, I see this game possibly going extras.
    If Contreras was still here, CH would use him, and we would lose.

    I wonder if the Pirates struggles in interleague play are caused by not being familiar with these pitchers, making them look like Cy Youngs to us.

    • No…it just exposes our “swing and miss” lineup of hitters…our lineup vs power pitchers is truly putrid.

  44. This guy has turned into Jeff Karstens.

  45. 2.30 ERA for Gomez….


  46. Gomez just 73 pitches to get through seven innings allowing just three hits. That type of performance keeps a guy like Cole in Indy and Morton on the fringes.

  47. come on pedro!!

  48. need a pinch runner now

  49. Did Pedro just get a base hit?

  50. have to say the tigers are loaded. The offense is out of control good… but the starting pitching is deeeeeep. Verlander/Sanchez/Fister/Scherzer and Porcello as a #5. Now if only they had a bullpen….. Valverde isn’t gonna get it done folks. I’ve seen less beer bellies on slow pitch softball pitchers.

    • If Porcello is so good this year, then why is his ERA over 5??

      • His first 2 games this year, he was 0-2, with a 13.89 ERA.

        He has been better since.

        • That means other teams have been able to hit him…just another indicator of this Bucco offense…

          • It is true that our offense is not great. Most NL offenses are not as good as those of the good teams in the AL. Not only do AL teams have DH’s, but that tends to make the teams favor power hitting over defense and base running. Detroit can’t field a lick at a bunch of positions, they don’t have much speed, and their bullpen is not great. They are obviously better than the Bucs with offense and probably starting pitching. Otherwise, I’d say right now we are better than them at most of the rest of the game.

      • i’ll take him as a #5. he’s like a charlie morton, if he’s on, he’s on. if he isn’t, take cover. point of my post was not porcello it was the others. who has a better 1-4 staff?

  51. Gaby will K…no worries…lol.

  52. Melancon is warming up!!!

    Melancon is warming up!!!

  53. The only reason I can think of for the bullpen being up is that Jeanmar’s leg has stiffened up from that ball that hit him 3 weeks ago.

  54. Not being Johnny rain cloud, but it’s now 7-1 Reds

  55. Josh is pinch running. God help us lol

  56. OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Harrison is in to run !!!!!!!

    Well, I guess Wife Swap is always on………..

  57. Way to get back J-Hay!

  58. Do not understand sendin Barmes up here in this situation….this is where the lack of a threat for a bat on the bench really hurts.

    JHay to pinch run for Alvarez removing our best power threat.

  59. $%#^+!?#%^%#%^<

  60. This lineup is HOPELESS!!

    • no it’s not. today they are not performing well so us fans have no hope. its been a decent lineup thus far this season.

      • It’s an average NL lineup. We shouldn’t expect them to be the equal of AL teams offensively. It is a different game, with different rosters. Our lineup has been good enough to supplement our defense, pitching and running to help us get to a 31-20 record

  61. Barmes with the DP. Clint under-managaged there. Should have been Mercer time.

  62. if i were managing, i’d have pinch run Mercer and pinch hit Inge there. Then both play in the field.

  63. I would like to offer thanks to(almost) all participants for making gametime more interesting and challenging. The psychic benefits are considerable, not to mention all the marriages that are saved by virtue of this outlet for frustration.

    For example, I would normally be cursing poor Barmas at this point.

  64. What will be the “reason” for pulling Jeanmar this time ? Only 73 pitches. SMH.

    • Rain delay.

    • I’m sure the reason will be he ‘was done’, he gave it everything he had. I think the real reason is that as a manager you dont want to give up a run late by pressing your luck with Gomez (unchartered territory) when you can put in a fresh bullpen arm like Wilson. I’m sure if he had left Gomez in and he had given up a HR, we’d be saying why didnt he take him out sooner.

    • he was not stretched out after going just 3.2 innings due to weather last time out.

  65. And had Barmes been lifted, that wouldn’t have happened.

  66. Have I conjured up some sort of Barmes devil?

  67. Someone please tell me NH is smart enought to trade for a good fielding, good hitting SS to improve this team, we have pieces get it done.

    That error was atrocious, Barmes in less than one inning doing all he can to give this game away.

  68. Good thing we kept Barmes in for his stellar defense. I try not to be like this but can we please BENCH HIM!

  69. Well, I’ve been a Barmes defender since he was acquired, but I’m now ready to join the mob. It’s Mercer time! Barmes can be the utility guy and Neal needs to be on the lookout for a shortstop in the Jed Lowrie mold. Blog homework assignment…who may be available at trade deadline time or sooner that can be an upgrade for us at SS? And save the Ronny Cedeno sighting please.

  70. oh boy, Tigers get that pitch called a strike… not the Bucs though

  71. The DBacks traded for SS Didi Gregarious in the offseason giving away top pitching prospect Trevor Bauer. Gregarious is hitting like .350 with power adding another HR last night versus Darvish to give DBacks come from behind win, why can’t we be the team to pull that type of trigger?

    • Because NH won’t trade top prospects for impact bats…

      • sorry, i wouldnt trade cole or taillon for didi either. I’m aiming lower but will still be a fair amount higher than the ‘other Clint’.

        • Profar might be available from Texas. But, he is the top prospect in all of MLB, and would likely cost something like Cole or Taillon, plus Hanson. No, thanks.

  72. love me some Justin Wilson! Nice story that isn’t being told really.. he has now become a late inning bullpen force!

  73. Man can Wilson let it rip!

  74. Good game. I hope Leyland brings in Belinda.

  75. Justin Wilson is….

    Ice Ice Baby… too cold, too cold.

  76. we havent seen the Bucs 9th yet, but who else thinks it should be Grilli time regardless? Reasoning, Cabrera and Fielder will be coming up and even if it is still 0-0, I think it’s the best time for Grilli to try to live thru the 9th. WE’d still have Melancon to close if needed.

  77. Maybe Wilson becomes the next closer for this team…

  78. This is one hell of a game.

    • Yes it is.

      American League fans have to be cringing at this game. It isnt one of their beloved 10-7 slugfests.

      • I’m cringing at this game because of our putrid offense…

        • Can you at least balance it by saying we have made Miggy look silly two nights in a row? I mean, if our offense is so putrid, at least recognize that every pitcher we’ve thrown at him has made him look silly. You act as though there is nothing good about this team. Yet, all they do is compete every single night, and win most of them.

  79. Ummmm…not so great a game for this offense…

  80. Ok Cutch…time to be Clutch…

  81. Cutch….what is going on with you?? UGGGHHHHH….

  82. Really beginning to lose faith in Cutch….waaaayyyyy too many K’s this year…

    • His strikeout rate is DOWN this year to the lowest of his career! But, he did have two bad hitting games in a row. Get a clue!

  83. wow the ump missed that strike

  84. Gutsy steal..oh my

  85. This one’s really gonna hurt.

  86. yikes, hide under the bed.. hunter/cabrera/fielder due up.

  87. God this offense sucks in the clutch….

  88. Frustrating!!!!

  89. Well really need Grilli to be on his game and get through meat of Tiger order. Lineup just an epic fail tonight.

    • This lineup as constructed will continue to be an epic fail vs power pitchers…now even Cutch is struggling to make contact…

  90. We started tonight with the 4th or 5th worst team BA with RISP, so these last two innings ate no surprise.

  91. Or check that Justin Wilson.

  92. Fielder was sitting on that curve but man, Wilson is pure nasty throwing mid-90s fastball and coming back with 78 curve.

  93. no matter what happens now, gotta be totally impressed with Justin Wilson. He’s ready for prime time now…in my eyes he has eclipsed Watson and is ready to set up Grilli with Melancon.

  94. Dodged a HUGE bullet there.

  95. WHEW!!!

  96. Heart stopper LOL

  97. Wow….alive by a foot…time for Martin, Harrison and Sanchez.

  98. I read somewhere the Dodgers are trying to figure out how to get rid of Ethier. Is he used up? He used to drive lots of runs. Perhaps we could steal him.

  99. I have Victor Martinez for my fantasy team…but did not want him to hit one out…lol.

  100. Martin gets it started !

  101. Ok J-hay…time to lay down the bunt…make up for yesterday…

  102. Am I psychic?? lol

  103. JEEBUSSSSSS!!!!!!

  104. Wow…14 K’s in this game…

  105. maybe Mercer has not been around long enough to catch the RISP malaise?

  106. Mercer time…has to be….

  107. Two wild pitches away.


  109. It’s a disease with this team…..

  110. Announcers were marveling at two pitches that were hanging sliders belt high down the middle.

  111. Melancon has allowed runs in 2 of his last 3 outings.

  112. This guy has probably never bunted before in his life. I don’t get it.

  113. Crap…

  114. A walk isn’t that bad of a thing, in that situation.

  115. Uggghhhh….don’t blow this Melancon…

  116. Lefties hitting .174 against Melancon. Righties .222.

  117. Finally gets the K !!!!

  118. OK. 1 more out to go

  119. On to the 11th

  120. On to the 11th……

    Wouldn’t it be something if this game gets to 18 innings or so and another storm comes.

  121. Melancon!!

  122. Suspended game.. Finish it in Pittsburgh tomorrow

  123. WOW !!!!!

  124. Milo called it

  125. NEEEEEIL!!!!!

    • It was just a question of time before he got the stroke back after missing so much time with the hand thing. I get tired of hearing how Walker is only on the team because he is from Pittsburgh. I am not saying he is a star, but he has been an average to good fielding 2b, and an above average offensive 2b for several years now. If he were from Ohio, no one would question his credentials.

  126. NEAL!!!!! He is starting to get out of his funk….and I have him on m y fantasy team…lol. DOUBLE KUDOS for me!!

  127. I guess Neil’s not done.

  128. Ok Grilli….make it count!!

  129. Milo Hamilton says:
    May 28, 2013 at 10:47 pm
    That’s their overall team batting average. Just not good enough. If they’re to win this one you know it’s going to take a long ball.

  130. Love to hear the emotion from the guys as they are heading out to the field for the bottom of the inning. Come on Grilli, shut it down!

  131. Need the split with this team in their yard!!

  132. Hunter, Cabrera and Fielder……..

    Won’t be anything cheap about this save.

  133. Two more Chili!!!

  134. TWO down !!!

  135. The job the Pirate pitchers have done on Cabrera is nothing short of amazing.

  136. Grillliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One more baby!!!!!!

  137. Raise IT !!!!!!!

  138. Raise the Jolly Roger!!!

  139. Behind a Neil Walker solo HR and 11 shutout innings turned in by the Pirates pitching staff capped by a league leadin 21st save from Jason Grilli the Pirates down the Tigers to earn a series split 1-0 and there was noooooooooo doubt about it.

    With the win the Pirates return to a season best 12 games above .500 at 32-20. The Pirates are now 17-8 in the month of May and 3-2 in interleague play. The Pirates continue their four consecutive games against the Tigers with a two game set at PNC Park with AJ Burnett getting the ball in the opener.

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  140. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. And he struck out the side! WOW!

  142. Yessss. Raise it. That my friends is one helluva a win!

  143. STFD!!! Bucs Win!!! Take the next two at home boys!!

  144. This is a very satisfying win.

    One that previous years clubs would not have been capable of.

  145. Wow. That game was hard.

  146. This is one of those games that could spark something special….

    • You have been saying all night that there is nothing special about this team. Their offense is putrid. You must have said that 20 times. We can’t hit power pitchers, blah, blah, blah. Have some faith! This is not a perfect team. They have obvious offensive flaws, but can’t you see the progress? They pitch well almost every night – both starters and relievers. On defense, they turn more balls put in play into outs than just about any team in MLB. They run the bases well most nights (JHay aside, yesterday). And, they compete and don’t back down from anyone every night. I see big improvement, but the building is not complete yet.

      • I still say this offense, over the long-haul is not good enough. There are just too many “swing and miss” hitters. I didn’t say there wasn’t ANYTHING special, just that the offense is not good enough overall. The offense, in my opinion, is not good enough to carry this team when the pitching staff slows down a bit….if you want to compete and overtake the Cards and Reds, you must have both.

      • I will have more faith in our offense when they are able to hit better vs power pitchers.

  147. One hellll of a game !!!!!!!!!

  148. Awesome pitching by both teams tonight, but I’m glad the Bucs were just that much better.

  149. Is this a four game series :) you know how those turn out

  150. I don’t know what else it means, but Grilli is a championship caliber closer.

  151. ….fear the Bones….

  152. Walker showed what you do to a hanger! &((#)*(%*#*)(*@T&*$#&#&&*@#($*(T#GHE:LRHJNB:KLRJEg;klgtjsbn;ksl YEAH!

    Great win

  153. Still need more offense though…lol.

  154. I can’t see Morton taking Gomez’s job now. Not until he fails, at least

  155. Melancon and Grilli warmed up and they got into the game.

    Oh….and we won another game!

  156. As the un-official president of the Barmes Fan Club, as designated by Lucky going back to last year, I am pleased to welcome all of you new members who have committed yourself to our cause tonight.

    The most pathetic example of a major league shortstop had another of his typical outings tonight.

    The more he plays, you’ll see what you have been missing all along

  157. Is halftime over in that NBA game?

  158. Game 1 of Pens-Broonz series, Saturday night at 8 on NBC.

  159. GREAT WIN, highlighted of course by another stellar bullpen performance. Someone said it earlier but can’t say enough about how the whole pitching staff has handled Cabrera who is in another league in terms of offense.

    Clint said it himself after the game that they need to have other guys in the bullpen take the load off of Melancon and Grilli (really I think the major issue is Melancon more than Grilli). I think Mazarro and Wilson are our guys.

    I have to say, I think too much is being made of the usage of the bullpen so far… with how hot the Reds and Cards have been the Pirates need to keep pace… keep in position…and we can fortify the pen as we move along. But Grilli and Melancon haven’t been abused…Clint is watching back-to-backs and pitch counts, etc…

    That said, Clint is on it..he knows he needs to ratchet back on Melancon…

  160. Since one of the goals of the PBC is to get to .500, this comment is added just so the number of comments for this Pirates entry reaches that magical number.

  161. Hooray for Neil Walker! He has started to hit, but Andrew McCutchen has stopped hitting
    and is striking out profusely, almost as if trying to beat out Sir Whiffs-a-lot for that dubious
    honor. Although Barmes and Inge are genuine contenders, too, as is Marte. He , too has lost his ability to hit, and his average shows it. Although, if we keep winning at a .600
    clip, thanks mostly to the superb pitching, all will be forgiven. One more observation:
    Why is Harrison continually called up? There are others at Indy who would be of more help. Now, let’s get A.J. some runs to work with. GO, BUCS!!!

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