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Final: Braves 5, Pirates 0

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (35-24) vs. Atlanta Braves (36-22)

Starters: LHP Wandy Rodriguez vs. RHP Julio Teheran

Time: 12:10 p.m.

Site: Turner Field, Atlanta

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Travis Snider, RF
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, 1B
  5. Neil Walker, 2B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Rodriguez, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel is on the beat.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.

    Today’s Pick ‘Em Line
    What will the Pirates do in today’s game?
    Win (EVEN ODDS)
    Lose (EVEN ODDS)

    Good Luck!!!

  2. Jason81 says:

    Rodriguez will wave his magic Wandy and get the Buccos back in the win column.

    100 on the WIN, please!

  3. Bizrow says:

    100 on a Win, thanks playoffs

  4. Bizrow says:

    Roger, thanks for posting that for me last night ;-)

  5. Frankie says:

    100 on a win


  6. I seriously thing this is our best batting line-up.

    I like Walker in the 5 hole to drive in runs.
    I like Snyder as a lefty batter with Marte on base.
    I like Martin batting after Pedro.
    I like pinch hitting for Barmes late in the game if needed.

    This batting line-up is 7 deep——our best——with guys in right spots to succeed!

  7. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    My thoughts exactly….unless they hang another goose-egg today.
    Then this line-up was all wrong.

  8. Couldn’t agree more. Spoken like a true fan. :D

  9. cmat0829 says:

    100 WIN

  10. cmat0829 says:

    As Bob Walk would say, “it’s only early June” but I think today is a big one for the Bucs… get a W and it’s on to Wrigley and a chance to get back on a roll. Another loss and it may start to mount a bit on the club, making them press a bit in chicago…and the Cubs are far from a patsy especially offensively.

  11. Naje says:

    I love the potential of this lineup…. yes, it’s seven-deep… BUT, none of the seven are really hitting well right now, save for, maybe Alvarez (all things considered). All are slumping right now and Mr. McCutchen needs to inject some life into the lineup. Not a .450 spell for two weeks and then .250 for two months, either… Bucs can’t afford a lineup-wide slump as they’ve had for the past 10 days.

  12. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    In all honesty GROAT, I really like this line-up.
    Both defensively and offensively.
    All they have to do is execute and produce.
    Easier said than done…

  13. cmat0829 says:

    I really really really am concerned about Marte.. he was a catalyst at the top of the order and he isn’t close to what he was back in April…can he adjust? I’m not seeing it so far… not as concerned about Walker (lefthanded) or Cutch or even Jones…I think they are gonna get on a roll like last June…. starting in Wrigley… but can Marte be the leadoff hitter THIS year (forget about moving down in the order later in his career)….

  14. Nate83 says:

    100 on win. Thanks.

  15. Arriba Wilver says:

    100 on the WIN.

  16. NMR says:

    .522 OPS over his last 22 games.

  17. bman says:


    50 on the WIN please

  18. Keith says:

    100 on WIN.

  19. KJX says:

    100 WIN

  20. Keith says:

    I like that this lineup on a getaway day should beat the Braves’ getaway lineup. Hurdle did the shuffling the first two games so we’re set against the weaker guys.

  21. JD says:

    100 on the win please.

    Go Bucs!

  22. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Keeping it simple, I like it..100 on the W today.

  23. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I agree, but this lineup still has too many what-ifs in it, I’d like to find a steady bat, not named Cutch. Though I do like that guy in the lineup.

  24. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    So I haven’t been around the last few days, anybody throwing in the towel yet? Is this the start of the collapse?

  25. Bizrow says:

    Nah, the lunatics are too worried about the Pens status right now (me included) ;-)

  26. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Too bad I’m not still living in Atlanta.
    My office was 3/4 of a mile from Turner Field.
    I could watch games from the corner window of my office.
    Nice day like today I would have walked over at lunch and caught the game.

  27. Jandy says:

    PLEASE don’t get Dejan started ;)

  28. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Patsies, every. last. one of them.

    Except for Rizzo…Frank’s a mighty fine ball player.

  29. Jandy says:

    100 units on the win, please Mr. Playoffs :)

  30. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    About the collapse? Or being crying about it? Or the Pens!!!

    Yikes, talk about do or die………but this is the Pirates thread.

  31. Jandy says:

    3 hour lunch…nice! ;)

  32. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


    I dont know either

  33. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    It was a government job, too.
    3 hour lunches were mandatory.

  34. Not in this state government job. Big brother is watching here.

  35. pattonbb says:

    100 on the WIN!

  36. Jandy says:

    You said collapse, and that was what I replied to lol.
    So…don’t get Dejan started…:P

  37. Jandy says:

    kick Big Brother in the…

  38. Lad9 says:

    100 on the win Playoffs. Lets send Julio back to the schoolyard! Thank you. Go Buccos!

  39. Mostly Big Sister around here. A good size 9 application would help.

  40. JRay3 says:

    Good morning to the window from the left coast…great day for the Bucs to head into the off day with a ‘W” and salvage something of this series with a team I despise (forever because of ’92) the Braves.

    Staying positive today, on this one, as the Bucs have not been swept since the Dodger series back in early April.

    75 on the WIN

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  41. pattonbb says:

    Pirates, I believe, are going to face Travis Wood and Samardzija in Chicago. Both have been very good against us. Makes today’s game even more important, in my opinion.

  42. Bill Born says:

    100 on the win

  43. tdb1977 says:

    100 units on the win. We can’t get swept by them, right?

  44. Ermine says:

    100 Win … thanks

  45. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    aw why not? Do I have to go back through the old blogs to read what he has to say on it?

  46. pattonbb says:

    Rain is in the forecast for Atlanta today. Sounds like the best chances are later this afternoon. Hope it holds off.

  47. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  48. Jandy says:

    He turns positively nasty….don’t do it! ;)

  49. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I really don’t think any games in June are that important….

  50. Jandy says:

    Ryan got it right !

  51. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    You and your silly stats……

  52. Dom says:

    100 on win

  53. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Questions already out there, but he’s busy with the Pens stuff…so he won’t be bothered with it.

  54. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I miss this time of the year in the south. Thunderstorms are awesome…….non existant here though.

  55. Jandy says:

    wow, pop out, strike out…nice start…

  56. theplanisworking says:

    If I am not too late…………………….

    100 on the WIN!

    Thank you.

  57. Jandy says:

    aaannnd another SO…

  58. Jandy says:


  59. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Marte swings at the first pitch and pops out to SS?? Not a leadoff approach at all, of course, he might’ve just missed it…..but who knows.

  60. Jandy says:

    And Simmons is on base…

  61. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Starting out ugly already…

  62. pattonbb says:

    Wandy’s hurt.

  63. Bizrow says:

    Not a good start for Wandy

  64. Milo Hamilton says:

    Not a good ending either.

  65. JRay3 says:

    Awesome, the bullpen covers ten innings the other day and now for the second time this season Rodriguez is hurt early in game.

    Morton, JMac, Cole come on down we are going to need some arms.

  66. pattonbb says:

    Out of the game, pointing towards his elbow on his throwing arm. Morris coming in.

  67. Jandy says:

    hurt how?

  68. Bizrow says:


    Thanks for the update

  69. JRay3 says:

    The off day tomorrow could not possibly come at a better time.

  70. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    This is not good……….luckily though, help is on the horizon. Wandy’s injury could be a big blow……

  71. cmat0829 says:

    well here we go with morris pitching 3 and mazarro pitching 2 or 3….

  72. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    That’s what they’re there for…….NO sweat

  73. cmat0829 says:

    u know what, the way this season has gone, the Bucs probably get the W now… and they will need more pitchers for Friday :)

  74. JRay3 says:

    Nice pick by Morris to get the DP and not throw much to get out of first. This is a game the OFFENSE needs to step up and carry the team.

  75. JRay3 says:

    If it is anything serious with Wandy that is a huge blow, and for me time to get Cole up here as he has highest ceiling of the options. Have to play to win now.

  76. cmat0829 says:

    if wandy has to go on the DL, I think it is time for Cole… on one hand, I’m not one of those that clamors for him to be up here and want him to dominate AAA and be ready to dominate MLB, but on the other hand, this would be a good time to go for it.. you still have JMac/Jeanmar and then Wandy waiting in the wings so if Cole does falter you can plug the others back in and get Cole some more AAA time… seems to me there is a good safety net there.

  77. JRay3 says:

    Who is on the farm we could recall? Black in on DL, Welker has not been sharp of late down in Indy, we just took Zagurski, Reid and Hughes.

    Quickly we have gone from a position of depth to tapping deeply into available resources.

  78. cmat0829 says:

    i agree but also think it would be good to plug Cole in now because if he flounders, you still have potentially Wandy (if it is not serious)/JMac (help us) and Jeanmar to come back and plug back in.

    Looks like we are gonna go with AJ/Liriano/Locke/Morton/Cole — for now.

  79. Milo Hamilton says:

    Lot of getaway day swings so far.

  80. Bizrow says:

    A statement from the MLBPA – “The Players Association has been in regular contact with the Commissioner’s Office regarding the Biogenesis investigation. They are in the process of interviewing players, and every player has been or will be represented by an attorney from the Players Association. The Commissioner’s Office has assured us that no decisions regarding discipline have been made or will be made until those interviews are completed. It would be unfortunate if anyone prejudged those investigations.

    “The Players Association has every interest in both defending the rights of players and in defending the integrity of our joint program. We trust that the Commissioner’s Office shares these interests.”

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    What am I saying ? They look like this all the time.

  82. cmat0829 says:

    well day off helps, plus day off coming on Monday. No idea who would be on the farm and depends who pitches today.. if they go with Morris for 3, then Mazarro for 2 and Wilson for 2, it won’t be all that bad. Hughes is still fresh (though Clint doesn’t trust him), and if they didn’t throw Girth and Reid they’d be ready for Friday….

  83. Bizrow says:

    + 1

  84. Jandy says:

    Be thankful the resources are even there.

  85. JRay3 says:

    Teams like the Cardinals have lost Carpenter, Westbrook, Garcia and they keep getting it done with no excuses, we may find out just how resilient this Bucs team is.

  86. Naterosboro says:

    I think it’s time Mr. Cole got a call.

    Clocks, all of ‘em, be damned!

  87. Milo Hamilton says:

    They took 2 pitches that inning. Rush Street awaits.

  88. Sisyphus says:

    If Wandy goes on the DL it time for valium. Not for him, for me. I don’t think that there is any team that has enough depth to cover all the injuries that our rotation candidates have suffered. Since spring training started we’ve lost Karstens, McDonald, Irwin, McPherson, and Gomez. Now maybe Wandy. They may have to bring up Cole whether they think he’s ready or not.

  89. JRay3 says:

    Definitely thankful for that, would be more thankful if Karstens could finally get healthy, JMac could regain his pre All-Star game form from 2012, and Morton comes back to the team with a sinker that can not be hit.

  90. cmat0829 says:

    Yes, but the pitcher is going right after them and throwing strikes… so if he is attacking you, you have to be aggressive. now if they can swing and HIT vs. swing and MISS, then we may have something

  91. Jandy says:

    I have written JMac off. That man is haunted.

  92. Jandy says:

    well said

  93. Jandy says:


  94. Bizrow says:

    ditto, the first spin of this episode

  95. JRay3 says:

    Barmes now 4-28, .142 with 8 K’s going back to May 24th.

    Six strikeouts in first nine batters for Bucs versus Teheran, totally unacceptable….Jay Bell is going to need to figure some things out with this crew.

  96. Thundercrack says:

    Lots of pitch & catch so far by the Braves’ pitcher and catcher

  97. stickyweb says:

    Radio guys just said Wandy’s problem is tightness in his forearm. If true, that would probably be the best case scenario. No elbow, no shoulder, etc.

  98. theplanisworking says:

    Hippos like hooey…………. ;)

  99. stickyweb says:

    Another error on Barmes. He better step it up on offense soon or he’s as useless as JoMac

  100. JRay3 says:

    E6 right through Barmes, if anybody wants to talk regression he would be a good place to start, his hitting and now defense have regressed.

  101. Milo Hamilton says:

    That’s 7 errors. The league “leaders” have 8.

  102. theplanisworking says:

    Regression? You obviously havent seen me going backward, have you?
    Amd Barmes is playing like a Hippo lately.

  103. JRay3 says:

    Bryan Morris highly effective once again, has thrown 33 pitches (should have been 29) to get through 2.2 IP.

  104. Milo Hamilton says:

    Before that error he was dead last in fielding percentage among qualifying shortstops in the NL.

  105. Bizrow says:

    Sometimes tighness in the forearm is directly tied to elbow issues

  106. Lad9 says:

    Completely agree if Wandy will miss any time at all.

  107. Jandy says:

    wasn’t that Jeanmar’s issue his last outing? Tightness in the forearm?

  108. Jandy says:

    Hipposter…Hippos don’t go backwards, silly :P

  109. Jandy says:

    no, that’s HONEY silly

  110. Dom says:

    No chance. If we stays down in AAA for just another I believe 10 days, then we will extend arbitration years by one.

  111. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy Girl, 2 things………….

    1) I saw collapse talk earlier………. Pirates, Pens……. the TRUE collapse was last night when I stood on a box to watch the game, and it exploded!

    2) You never want to see a Hippo in reverse. Trust me. Its not sustainable. ;)

  112. Dom says:

    I think Andy Oliver is pitching better anyways,.

  113. theplanisworking says:

    no, thats BEARS SILLY…………..

  114. Jandy says:

    Honey is for Hippos too :P

  115. Jandy says:

    LOL good stuff, my friend, you have me howling…my co-workers are gonna call out the guys in the white coats…

  116. theplanisworking says:

    Is that like Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too? :)

  117. stickyweb says:

    Right you are Jandy. Good memory. Something nobody ever accused me of! :-)

  118. JRay3 says:

    Bucs bats highly ineffective once again, through four innings, seven K’s, ZERO hits. Tough to watch some days.

  119. Milo Hamilton says:

    Since May 1st – Garrett Jones is hitting .215.

  120. stickyweb says:

    Could lead to something bad is better than something bad, no?

  121. 21sthebest says:

    And Strasburg’s issue a couple of weeks ago.

  122. JRay3 says:

    I know first place and position this team should be scouring to try and improve lineup.

  123. Jandy says:

    lol stickyweb…not me usually, either. I suffer from CRS. Can’t remember sugar ;)

    But then…if it’s two pitchers with this issue, is it from something they do or don’t do? is it a BIG issue, or is it just fluky they both have the same problem?

    Now I sound like NMR, overthinking it ;)

  124. Bizrow says:

    Yup, but not out of the woods yet, will have to wait for the examination, I guess

  125. Lad9 says:

    I don’t think we need a fifth starter for about 10 days, so that might cover his time if we can hold on. I wouldn’t mind giving Oliver a shot, but his control has terrible lately. His walks per nine innings in his last 5 starts is 10.3, which will get him killed in the show.

  126. Nate83 says:

    Not exactly the return we expected for that trade but never less a small silver lining. He has been very solid and gotten us out of a few jams this year.

  127. Jandy says:


  128. Jandy says:

    hmmm…thanks 21…interesting

  129. Milo Hamilton says:

    Does anyone out there happen to have the Pirates calendar they gave out at Piratefest ? June is Juan D. Rodriguez, nuff said. May was James McDonald – DL. April was Andrew McCutchen – he hit .247 in April. At least he didn’t get hurt.

    Pedro Alvarez is July.

  130. pattonbb says:

    Laird could’ve walked to third.

    Oh wait, I think he did.

  131. Jandy says:

    with no support today so far….

  132. Bizrow says:

    Since the game is so far a stinkeroo ;-)

  133. Dom says:

    I brought this up before but instead of promoting Cole, how about Andy Oliver:

    3 2 2.87 62.2IP BB: 51 SO:68 AVG:191

  134. Dom says:

    Can any of this mess be blamed on Selig? Regardless, I feel is the worst commissioner of all time including all the major sports in North America.

  135. pattonbb says:

    Does Barmes show up on it anywhere? It would be terrible if he cooled off.

  136. Kevin says:

    teams like the cardinals can hit the ball though.

  137. Milo Hamilton says:

    62 innings / 51 walks. No.

  138. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Hanrahan’s initial diagnosis was tightness in the forearm as well.
    I’m sure the MRI will tell the full story.

  139. theplanisworking says:

    As much as I want to see those cheats get suspended, after Braunie got off with his crap with the urine sample, I dont hold out much hope here. Add to that the Bonds and Clemens trials, and I have even less hope.

    I foresee a bunch of lying, spinning, and other stuff.
    I think a much more effective punishment would be for me to sit on all of them!

  140. Milo Hamilton says:

    August. That’ll probably be too late. :)

  141. JRay3 says:

    I agree, not exactly what they had in mind with how that trade panned out but it is nice to see him progress and appear he will be a solid part of the pitching staff for the years to come.

    Tip of the hat to him today as he escapes trouble in the 4th to turn in a great 3.2 IP today.

  142. Dom says:

    Good point. Who do you recommend?

  143. Milo Hamilton says:

    I think Morton & Cole will be the next 2 guys up.

  144. pattonbb says:


  145. Thundercrack says:

    At least we are utilizing our return for Jason Bay

  146. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  147. Kevin says:

    seems to me that a common theme has broken out once again… pirates hitters making opposing pitchers look good.

  148. TK says:

    Was June Juan D. month or Wandy month?

  149. Lad9 says:

    Milo, not sure if it was you, but someone pointed out a few weeks ago (and I agree) that Barmes fielding fundamentals are seriously flawed. He always take balls on the side and throws on the run and off balance. So he has been making plays for years on his athleticism. Now as he ages, his skills are eroding and he doesn’t have that solid fundamental base to fall back, so his decline will be steeper than the average bears would be. At least that is my theory….

  150. TK says:

    They could sign Zack Duke who was just designated for assignment.

  151. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Greg Ritchie was attacked with pitchforks and fire for this last year.
    When can the village begin to chase Jay Bell?

  152. Milo Hamilton says:

    June 5, 2013 – Just another day on Julio Tehran’s journey to Cooperstown.

  153. JRay3 says:

    Maybe best part of Barmes making last out is we can double switch him out of game and bring in next long man reliever.

    At some point the position players have to feel a bit bad to see these arms giving everything they have to keep in the game with absolutely no help and support.

  154. Damon says:

    Can Russell Martin play SS?

  155. Bizrow says:

    What would a no-no do to the psyche of this club??

  156. JRay3 says:

    +1, sadly hysterical

  157. Dom says:

    Wasn’t Morton was going to replace Jeanmar who I thought was also injured or was his injury not too bad?

  158. JRay3 says:

    Honeymoon period is quickly beginning to wear off, getting closer that is for sure.

  159. pattonbb says:

    Teheran has only given up a combined 5 runs in his last 3 starts. He’s been pretty good lately but usually has one inning that the wheels come off in. Lets hope it’s the 5th today.

  160. theplanisworking says:

    Any day is a good day for Pitchforks in Pittsburgh! ;)

  161. JRay3 says:

    It appears this offense goes as Marte goes, early in the season when Marte was getting on base early in games was on quite a tear team was firing, as he has cooled the remainder of the offense seems to be doing much the same.

    To me signals the importance of the production from the lead off position.

  162. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    They’re keeping this thing close, so anything can happen.

    My prodiction is a Pedro bomb, it is daylight afterall.

  163. JRay3 says:

    #SHARKTANK!…now time for some runs.

  164. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    What about the leadoff hitter for every other started inning?

    Marte swinging at the first pitch of the game doesn’t help

  165. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Nothing……New day, new game.

  166. pattonbb says:

    He thinks he can.

  167. JRay3 says:

    It all applies, but after hitting .327 in April Marte followed with a .245 clip in May and is 3-13 .231 in June.

    He is a catalyst for the team, especially on the bases, puts pressure on the opposing pitcher and gives them more to think about.

    Just would like to see him get it back going.

  168. Dom says:

    Anyone else ready for some hitting or is that just me?

  169. pattonbb says:

    Wow, Marte didn’t even try to get back to the bag. Talk about taking a nap.

  170. Milo Hamilton says:

    Snider swings one handed at a 1-0 changeup out of the strike zone & flies out weakly to left. Just an awful approach. Just another example of why they are and have been one of the worst offenses in the league. You have to go up there with an idea. Not picking on him, they all do it.

  171. Jandy says:

    Spot on!

  172. JRay3 says:

    Being no hit through six innings, I would agree the approach is awful, the game plan is terrible, and they all look lost.

  173. Frankie says:

    If 10 days are correct on day11 he needs to be a Pirate.

  174. Baywatch says:

    Has ANYBODY ever seen anything like the Marte pickoff before? Man! That might make the highlight reel for THIS is when the team reverted back to the Pirates of old in 2013! Looked like something that was done in one of those comedy movies! Sometimes Marte reminds me of a guy who went straight from Little League to the Majors!

  175. Jandy says:

    Don’t forget the tar and feathers!

  176. Jandy says:

    I bet if you plug him in there he does fine….just do it!

  177. JRay3 says:

    Can’t find fault with Mazzaro, can only expect this pen to fire zero after zero only so long. Good teams get the big hits, it is no wonder the Braves have 12 division titles, 14 playoff appearances since the Sid Bream slide and the Pirates have 20 losing seasons.

    Here we are again where a 2-0 lead seems insurmountable.

  178. stickyweb says:

    Yikes, don’t go there Playoffs!

  179. Frankie says:

    Back to Back

  180. theplanisworking says:

    I cant tell which is the worst………….

    -no hits
    -9 K’s
    -being picked off 1st while asleep

    – Big Ben having knee surgery today.

    Man, Pittsburgh sports need a lot of rabbit’s feet !!!!

  181. Dave G says:

    Actually, good teams get ANY hits at all.

    All I see is goose eggs so far.

  182. Jandy says:

    ouch indeed

  183. Baywatch says:

    Time for a nap. Wake me up in September! Sheesh, the indignity … Laird!

  184. Jandy says:

    9 K’s, that’s disgusting.

  185. Jandy says:

    aaannnddd another error

  186. Jandy says:

    so sit Marte…can Martin play LF?

  187. Milo Hamilton says:

    That’s the 11th error for Pedro, he “leads” the NL in that category. 2nd worst fielding % among qualifiers. Notice a trend on that left side ?

  188. theplanisworking says:

    aaaaaaaandd a balk……….

  189. Patrick(ri) says:

    Early, but feels like the wheels are coming off. Need to get out of Atlanta and take on a team that doesn’t “know” they are superior, in all respects.

  190. Jandy says:

    are you kidding me?

  191. theplanisworking says:

    Milo, I know I will be risking crucification for saying this, but………..

    The Pirates have a good record so far.
    I just do not see them continuing this with poor defense and poor hitting.
    Hope I am wrong, but these issues dont seem to be getting fixed.
    One-dimensional teams dont succeed that much.

    And I dont see the answers either.

  192. Patrick(ri) says:

    And that doesn’t count all the grounders that Barmes watches go into the OF.

  193. theplanisworking says:

    Not a surprise.
    Fleury has played his last time in Pittsburgh, Jandy.

  194. Bizrow says:

    Dejan tweeted that a while ago, sorry should have thought to post it

  195. Frankie says:

    Flipping between Pirates game and Indians game…..Bucs no hit thru 6…….Tribe no hits thru 4 innings and down 6-0……..

  196. Dom says:

    It’s a surprise to me.

  197. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    On June 10, 2003 the New York Yankees had a record of 36-27.
    They were in a very close 3 team race for the division lead with Boston and Toronto at the time.

    The next day, June 11, the Houston Astros had 6 pitchers team up for no-hitter in Yankee Stadium.
    It was the first time the Yankees had been no-hit in 45 years.
    Some journalists wrote how this would be a loss that caused the team to go into a death spiral.

    All they did from that moment until the end of the season was post a 65-33 record, win 101 games, and take the division by 6 games.

    Not saying this year’s Pirates are anywhere close to what the 2003 Yankees were, but in this game YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.

  198. Sisyphus says:

    There is no date for avoiding the Super Two clause.

    “Super Twos come from the group of players who have between two and three years service time and at least 86 days service time the previous year. The 17% of those players with the most service time become Super Twos.”

  199. Damon says:

    I think Bylsma is looking at winning one game, and since recent history shows Vokoun has played much better than Fleury, he made the safe choice. Fleury could steal game 3, but he also could kill the season. 50-50. Vokoun will (hopefully) stop the pucks he’s supposed to and maybe even a few more. Safe pick.

  200. Jandy says:

    Hipposter…it sure looks that way…sadly…

    Biz, I’m doing contracts, pay app invoicing, auditing and stuff at work..I just SAW Vokoun was in goal lol.

  201. Jandy says:

    me too Dom

  202. Jandy says:

    well said Playoffs.

  203. Patrick(ri) says:

    +1, but right now the do not pass the smell test.

  204. Sisyphus says:

    Agreed. But they may have to bring him up anyway.

  205. JRay3 says:

    That team did have Clemens, Pettite, Mussina, Wells in its rotation and a lineup featuring Posada, Soriano, Jeter, Ventrua, Giambi, Matsui and Williams…they had quite the roster that season.

  206. theplanisworking says:

    Its a 162 game season, right?

  207. Patrick(ri) says:

    OK, now there is a chance with him in the stretch. This has been too easy!

  208. Kevin says:

    Follow the bouncing Eat’N’Park smilie cookie.

  209. Sisyphus says:

    I can think of something worse, but the Pens game doesn’t start until 8 PM.


  210. Milo Hamilton says:

    Amazingly, the Pirates went 42 years and nearly 6,800 games without being no hit. Now they’re in danger of it happening for the 2nd time in 66 games.

  211. JRay3 says:

    10 K’s, zero hit through seven…painful.

  212. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, thats why I said it is no surprise to me.
    When Disco Duck pulled Fleury in the Islander series, I said then he was gone.
    It was a bold move, especially come playoff time.

    He will be traded for a Dman.

  213. Patrick(ri) says:

    There is that phrase, again: “career high.”

  214. Sisyphus says:

    I think I’ll open a vein now.

  215. pattonbb says:

    If he gets a hit today, I say let him play anywhere he wants.

  216. Damon says:

    A sweep of the Cubs would be nice….

  217. Dom says:


  218. Bizrow says:

    And lots of us “liked” this lineup before the game :-(

  219. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Most importantly, they had Joe Torre in the dugout.

  220. Jandy says:

    Seems like the Buccos and the Pens are trying to outdo each other at “suck”

  221. theplanisworking says:

    That will teach us, huh?

  222. Jandy says:

    Lurch not getting it done.

  223. Damon says:

    I guess it will be tough to beat up on the Braves bullpen if you never get to see it….

  224. The Gunner says:

    Zach Duke could be a fit salary wise but, ability wise is another story

  225. theplanisworking says:

    Well, I was a prophet in my earlier post about fielding/defense.

    Nice Keystone Cops play to let in another run………………. :(

  226. Karen22 says:

    Probably…he played right yesterday…

  227. Damon says:

    Hopefully the Pirates are using up all the “suck” for today….

  228. JRay3 says:

    Very true, how did I fail to mention that one.

  229. Karen22 says:

    This actually makes me very sad. Very sad.

  230. Patrick(ri) says:

    Looks like Clint is tossing in the towel. Not sure I blame him.

  231. Karen22 says:

    LOL! My two favorite teams! (I’m from Cleveland). Some kind of weird karma here…

  232. Karen22 says:

    They’d have to get at least ONE one per game to do that, Damon!

  233. Bizrow says:

    + 1

  234. Karen22 says:

    We’re good at that phrase…and not in a good way.

  235. Jandy says:

    I pity his bubble gum.

  236. Jandy says:


  237. Jandy says:

    Hey, Karen, nice to “see” ya. Yes, sad indeed.

  238. Kevin says:


  239. Jandy says:

    5-0 two more innings to break up the no-no

  240. theplanisworking says:

    Instead of Hidden Vigorish, maybe we need a Hidden Hippo? ;)

  241. theplanisworking says:

    I pity our pitchers……..

  242. Bizrow says:

    Nah, we’re not teachable, we are lunatics

  243. Bizrow says:

    They are letting Barmes hit?

  244. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Welp, so much for this game……….and my 100 units

  245. Karen22 says:

    Haven’t turned on the TV or radio today…just following the train wreck along here. I will watch the last inning to see history live and in bloody color should the Pirates fail in the 8th. This really is quite incredible.

  246. Bizrow says:

    Check that, they let him attempt to hit

  247. JRay3 says:

    Thank you Brandon Inge.

  248. Dom says:

    The no-no is no more.

  249. Bizrow says:

    What was that?????

  250. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    as long as the “embrace” it

  251. Frankie says:

    Live in Warren Ohio so I get STO and Root

  252. Karen22 says:

    Hi, Jandy. I kind of forgot the Bucs were playing this afternoon. Glad I did. Just WOW.

  253. theplanisworking says:

    So I went to Hippo Skool for Nutting? ;)

  254. theplanisworking says:

    So I went to Hippo Skool for Nutting? ;)

  255. JohninOshkosh says:

    Friday’s a day game at Wrigley.

    Cubs with a very odd schedule this week. Rare Sat night game last weekend. Home on Sunday. Day off. Two games in Disneyland. Day off. Home again for Friday day game.

    They might be a bit dizzy. Pirates should be OK if they avoid Rush Street. (Remember those photos of the Black Hawks partying on Rush Street after they won the cup ? Alcohol and scores of young women. Be good Buccos, you need that win Friday).

  256. JMB says:

    At least the no no is gone.

  257. Karen22 says:

    So I don’t have to turn the TV on now?

  258. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Because that lineup needed managing.

  259. Jandy says:


  260. Jandy says:

    yeah…this is depressing…

  261. Parrothead01 says:

    I think the Pirates reached a new low today. Average pitching, bad defence and horrible hitting. As for Kedro, the braves pitcher said it best after giving up the home run to Pedro. Why did I throw him a fast ball, he couldn’t touch my breaking pitches. Why would any pitcher throw a fastball strike to Pedro?

  262. Dom says:

    Of course not. It’s healthier to read anyways.

  263. Jandy says:

    yeah mine too…

  264. theplanisworking says:

    Flounder in to pitch……………..

  265. JohninOshkosh says:

    Glad I stayed at work instead of heading over to the sports bar.

  266. SteelAg70 says:

    Like I’ve said….this lineup is not good enough to continue as-is…too many “swing and miss” type hitters in the lineup…and too many positions we platoon at…

  267. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    The WHEN’S and IF’s are really starting to catch up with this club.

  268. theplanisworking says:

    As Dean Wormer would say…………..

    “Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through Life, Son”.

    NOW he tells me! ;)

  269. JohninOshkosh says:

    “Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”-Dean Wormer

  270. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Because “good” teams have NEVER been no hit before…..

  271. Jandy says:

    They’re positively rolling in it…

  272. JohninOshkosh says:

    Jinx-buy me a coke!

  273. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    No need to worry.
    These Buccos have problems “scoring”

  274. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, good pitching ALWAYS beats good hitting.

    So this is even worse for the Pirates because they’ve faced good pitching and do not have good hitting.

  275. theplanisworking says:

    LOL. You can have the Coke.

    Hippos prefer Pepsi! :D

  276. SteelAg70 says:

    This team is being exposed before our eyes…

  277. JohninOshkosh says:


  278. Jandy says:

    You want Cap’n Morgan with that?

  279. Jandy says:

    :covers eyes:

  280. theplanisworking says:

    How close are you to Dave Grohl Alley?

  281. Jandy says:

    lol Playoffs

  282. theplanisworking says:

    Chivas Regal, please. :)

  283. Jandy says:

    Don’t say the “P” word! :P

  284. Bizrow says:

    Ok, are we ready for a 6 run rally???

  285. Jandy says:

    well, la-de-fackin-da! :P

  286. theplanisworking says:

    Nothing to see here, just move along…………….

  287. Jandy says:

    hope, but expect…


  288. SteelAg70 says:

    At least Zagurski will never be accused of using PED’s….

  289. SteelAg70 says:

    I don’t do either with this team…lol.

  290. 21sthebest says:

    “Glad I stayed at work instead of heading over to the sports bar.”

    A bad day at the sports bar is better than a great day at work.

  291. theplanisworking says:

    I have a 24 year old bottle sitting on my shelf.
    I am not allowed to touch it.


  292. Dom says:

    Is Gomez going to make his next start?

  293. theplanisworking says:

    Depends on the Sports Bar.

    But most days anywhere are better than a day at work. ;)

  294. Jandy says:

    says who?

  295. JohninOshkosh says:

    A blessing from the Lord!!

    Root lost their signal.

  296. theplanisworking says:

    Well, he is guilty of one PED ……….. Pirate Eating Disorder. ;)

  297. 21sthebest says:

    “Depends on the Sports Bar.”

    Okay. If it’s in Cleveland or Detroit.

  298. theplanisworking says:

    Maybe it will be like the Heidi Game…………………. when we resume the te4lecast Pirates will be winning 6-5!!!

  299. Jandy says:


  300. Jandy says:

    Wake Hipposter up, he’s dreaming…and Hippo sleepwalking…

  301. theplanisworking says:

    so much for that dream………

  302. pattonbb says:

    McCutchen looks like he could use a couple more days off.

  303. Karen22 says:

    HEY! Cleveland ROCKS!! (I also lived in Detroit for six years…I only admit to that because of the 1984 Tigers and the fact that my son was born there).

  304. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, I have enough trouble regular walking, let alone sleep walking………..

  305. Karen22 says:


  306. Bizrow says:

    Gomez is on the 15 day DL, haven’t heard any prognosis yet

  307. Karen22 says:

    What was I saying about karma?

  308. JohninOshkosh says:

    Lived in Detroit for three years. Loved it. Plus Cleveland has ‘A Christmas Story” museum. Now, if that sports bar was in St. Louis…..(just kidding, sort of).

  309. Bizrow says:

    Well, it could have been worse.


  310. Karen22 says:

    Hope this doesn’t turn out to be another disastrous Pittsburgh sports day. We’ve had too many of those already this week…

  311. theplanisworking says:

    Actually, Cleveland has a great sports bar near Gund arena.

    But the river DID catch on fire there………….. ;)

  312. theplanisworking says:


  313. theplanisworking says:

    Glad that horror shwo is over.
    Get em Friday!

    See yooz at the Pens thread tonight.
    GO PENS !!!!

  314. JohninOshkosh says:

    Good riddance to Atlanta for another year….

  315. Milo Hamilton says:

    Oh well, I guess we have to settle for being 1-hit twice in 6 days.

  316. Karen22 says:

    Hooey squared.

  317. theplanisworking says:

    The Doctor…………….. :(

  318. 21sthebest says:

    Uhm…uhm….. I was referring to Cleveland, Georgia and Detroit, Oregon.

  319. Jandy says:


  320. Jandy says:

    later, friend

  321. Jandy says:


  322. Jandy says:

    Doctor Doctor, gimme the news…

  323. Jandy says:

    da*m doctor

  324. Karen22 says:

    HAHA! Been there (“Christmas Story” house). My father-in-law grew up in that neighborhood…

  325. Karen22 says:

    So did the mayor’s hair…but that was in another lifetime! ;)

  326. Nate83 says:

    Inge had the hit in both games. I never thought I would say this but thank god for Inge.

  327. radio wave says:

    Feels like a swoon to me. One hit twice. Now injuries. Need to win 2 of 3 in Chicago.

  328. Milo Hamilton says:

    Gerrit Cole pitches 7 scoreless in Indy today. 18.2 consecutive scoreless innings. His 88th pitch was 99 mph. He’s as ready as he’ll ever be.

    The Super 2 thing is merely a guess. There is no set date. They won’t know for sure if he’s eligible for 2 years. So much can happen with him & other players in the interim. Morton can make Wandy’s next start, but they’re going to need someone on the 15th.

  329. radio wave says:

    The guys who pitched today are not the answer for middle relief. And Reid did not show well last night. Does the organization have anyone else for these middle innings roles?

  330. pattonbb says:

    Didn’t he face Wil “the can’t miss kid” Myers today?

  331. NMR says:

    0-2 with two pop ups, I believe.

  332. NMR says:

    Yeah, that Morris guy and his 3.2 innings of no-hit ball is a real scrub. :)

  333. NMR says:

    If Andy Oliver pitches for the Pirates before Gerrit Cole it will be a slap in the face to every man in that dugout.

    Gerrit Cole is ready to get big league outs.

  334. tomp says:

    I thought the Wandy injury was because of the helmet by Simmons hitting his arm. I truly hope that is the reason he left, but we will soon find out.

    I guess the big question is do they want to save a few $$$$ in 2016, by keeping Cole at AAA, or do they want to try to win some games now?.
    Unfortunately , i think i know the answer to that question.

    I think Jay Bell as hitting coach needs to be re valuated.
    At the worst, they should hire a guy who can work solely with the left handed batters.
    They have been pretty much atrocious , over the last week.

  335. tomp says:

    He has minor league options though!!.

  336. Sisyphus says:

    I don’t know, maybe slapping all those hitters in the face is exactly what need to be done right now.

  337. NMR says:

    Ha, I didn’t watch the game today but have to agree with you and Milo above.

    Ton of poor at-bats lately, for whatever reason.

    Hey, while you’re here, we were talking about strikeout rates the other day. I can’t figure out why you used K/AB and not K/PA. Not saying you’re wrong, just wondering if you had a specific reason.

  338. Sisyphus says:

    Everyone seems to be convinced that Cole is ready for the majors right now. Going into the season, everyone seemed to be convinced that Jeff Locke was, at best, a huge question mark. Please note that Gerrit Cole is not pitching as well in AAA as Jeff Locke did over his 29 starts there. That includes their strikeout rates, by the way, and Locke is no power pitcher.

    Cole may very well be ready for callup. But don’t pretend that his performance is so good that they’d be crazy to leave him at Indy, because that definitely is not the case.

  339. NMR says:

    If only he’d have gotten blackout drunk and drove 30 mph over the speed limit.

    Then Bud could bury his head in the sand and pretend nothing happened.

  340. NMR says:

    In a vacuum, sure, I agree with you.

    But this is not 2009 or 2010.

    It’s time to win games at the big league level. Gerrit Cole absolutely gives the Pirates a better chance of doing that than any other potential addition to the rotation.

  341. Chuck H says:

    Not only the fact they can’t hit with men on base, now they can’t even get anyone on base. Another no-name pitcher has their number. Of course, the way they’re not hitting now, any pitcher from AA could baffle them. Like I said before, they are in their June Swoon, and it looks like their season may be over. This should be no surprise-it happens every year since 1992. They keep buying these automatic outs and putting them in their lineups. I hope I’m wrong, but if they can’t beat the good teams, then who cares.

  342. radio wave says:

    Other than Morris.

  343. Frankie says:

    About a mile

  344. Remember what happened to start the season – a 1-5 start. The last six games they have been 1-5. Hopefully it will lead to good things like last time.

  345. Nate83 says:

    MLB baseball teams are not loaded top to bottom with great middle relief. I would take Morris, Wilson and Mazzarro over almost any other teams middle relief. Pretty high bar being set for middle relief.

  346. Thundercrack says:


  347. Thundercrack says:

    We’ve had many managers, hitting coaches and regular coaches.

    We have too many I disciplined hitters who should concentrate more on their average instead of the long ball. This seems to be prevalent in baseball and coaching doesn’t seem to help

  348. Arriba Wilver says:

    Then this line-up was all wrong.


  349. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I’ve got a better idea….Let’s praise GM Neal Huntington for all the great work he’s done in recent weeks:

    Keeping John McDonald on the roster
    Keeping Brandon Inge on the roster.
    Adding Mike Zagursky and Ryan Reid to the bullpen.

    Just brilliant!….If you don’t want to stay in a race for the division title.

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