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Final: Pirates 4, Reds 0

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (41-29) vs. Cincinnati Reds (43-28)

Starters: RHP Charlie Morton vs. RHP Mat Latos

Time: 7:10 p.m.

Site: Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Russell Martin,  C
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, RF
  5. Neil Walker, 2B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  8. Jordy Mercer, SS
  9. Morton, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel is on the beat.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. Wonder who gets hit first………hmmm


    Oh and…..#FreeTonySanchez

    I rest

    • I see Sanchez slid into Jim Callis’s top 10 Bucs prospects.

      The re-emergence of Tony Sanchez.

      • I like him. Might have some mental issues/blockage going on right now though.

      • He’s figured out how to hit, now if he could remember how to throw he’d be OK. He had another error last night, but also another home run and he’s over .300 again.

        • Yeah, suddenly he’s Mike Piazza.

        • I think working under Russell Martin could be a good thing for him.

          What was the error though?

          • It said on a pickoff in the box.

          • I think at this point Fort stays as backup catcher in the ‘burgh for three major reasons:

            1) You want Martin to catch 6 days a week
            2) Sanchez will benefit from catching every day at Indy, needs some additional development
            3) Cutting Fort would be bad, bad, bad Karma

            I think 2014 finds Sanchez as the backup C and probably getting more starts especially as the season progresses…to begin the transition from Martin.

            Now, IF they can find a spot for Fort in a deadline deal, then thay may go ahead and do that, because at least they’d find a place for him to play and avoid the karma effect.

            • To your point, cmat, I want to see Sanchez but the yips thing gives me pause. If they are confident that is minor, I say bring him up. If not, then next year.

    • Well, not much time was wasted…

  2. Why do I like this lineup??

    • Hard to argue with much.

      Actually surprised Clint hasn’t resorted to using Gaby against righties sooner with Tabby out and Snider struggling.

      • Boy, was that an awful at bat by Gabby last night against the nasty lefty with the long name?

        First, he got up 3-0 (nice). Then, he seemed to swing wildly (Pedro vs a lefty-like). Then, he looked like he had no intention of swinging at the 3-2 no matter where it was. The kid absolutely painted the corner at the knees. Then, Gabby tried to say it was a ball. That pitch was filthy. Cengrani, or whatever his name is, is Chris Sales-like.

        • Ha, I admittedly turned the game off after Pedro swung through strike two at his eyes. Fairly certain I knew the outcome.

          • The Pedro whiff was painful to watch. I think everyone at the stadium + everyone watching on TV knew that AB was going to last 3 pitches. He was swinging no matter what. His mind was made up before the first pitch. None of them would have been strikes.

            Of course, Latos will hang one at some point tonight and Pedro might hit it 450 ft.

            • I agree with that last statement, though his numbers in Cinncy disagree.

              • Yeah, they said last night he was only hitting about .150 there b4 he laced that single to RF.

            • I like Pedro, I really do. But his approach at the plate has got to improve… in the beginning he was too patient, looked at hittable pitches and fell into 0-2 counts. Now he seems to just swing at every pitch (something Cutch is doing way too much this year also, but that’s a different topic).

              Clint preaches “if it’s slow, get it up, if it’s fast, get it down”….Pedro defies that, probably not on purpose, but maybe he needs glasses or Lasik surgery? His pitch recognition is not very good.

              Seemed like Leake last night was pretty predictable…he as going soft on hitter counts… what would I pay for ONCe, just ONCE for Pedro or even Cutch to actually SIT OFFSPEED at 2-0 instead of assuming fastball…. 2002 called, Pirates, they want your approach at the plate back… pitchers are much more likely to ‘pitch backward’ now and time for us to ‘hit backward’.

              Jay Bell is smart and I know Clint gets it because he talks about it…why can’t the players do it?

    • I like it too. I also like this batting order.

  3. Matt Harvey with a no-no through 6

  4. Hey, seems as though they were telling the truth about starting Mercer most days.

    I like it

  5. The big question of the day is:

    How Charlie Morton repsonds to this outing?

    CM could be a huge contributor to this staff and I expect an improvement over his first outing. I like CM. I like what he brings to the table. With him coming back in June could be a shot in the arm that a mid season acquistion would be..

    Or, his ship could sink.

  6. Is it time to switch Jones and Alvarez yet? I like Walker between them to break up the swing and miss, and as a right hand bat when needed. I think this is another move Hurdle needs to make. Hes . Over the last 30 days Pedro is .241/.341/.595 , with 8HR, 21RBI, and a 12.1% walk rate. If now isn’t the time, then when?

    • I, personally, will agree with you.

      • CH mentioned the other day that he wants to move Pedro up.. I think he wants Pedro to be on a good streak to do so, but I think he should do so anyway…and you know why? Because with Walker or Jones hitting BEHIND Pedro, you have good solid hitters to clean up his mess if he indeed strikes out with RISP…and pitchers would have to pitch him vs. trying to pitch around him (though there is little evidence pitchers are doing that now anyway)…

      • Good grief, I didn’t even look at Jones over the last 30 days: .225/ .276/ .325, 1 HR (the bomb into the Allegheny), 7 RBI, and 6.9% walk rate.

        I mean Hurdle has these numbers too…

        • Pedro takes his deserved share of grief for being streaky, but Jones has a history of the same.

          • Jones is what he is. He won’t get any better and hopefully won’t get any worse.

            He is a very streaky hitter

            • Then why can’t Hurdle adjust the lineup accordingly? I mean he bounces Walker and Martin, and more recently Mercer, around the lineup.

              Those basically his only two power weapons, and he needs to maximize their production. The fact that they’re both streaky hitters only magnifies it. Pedro is mashing right now, get him in the 4 hole and take advantage of it.

    • That’s a tough one. Pedro has managed to lead the team in RBI’s batting so low. Maybe that’s where he belongs. I keep thinking get him up to 4/5 at some point, though.

  7. Have to admit it folks, I will be watching the game tonight with white knuckles… Cholly has historically been good vs Cincy I think, and if he has his ‘Ground Chuck’ going it might be a good start for him… but if he is leaving balls up……… let’s go Bucs. We need to beat this arrogant team, Latos likes to ‘pitch with an edge’ so we’ll see how close he gets to Cutch’s head.

    • I was also thinking that Chuck was the kind of pitcher that beats this Reds team in their own bandbox. Gotta keep it on the carpet.

      • Yes, if executed well, Charlie’s formula is what wins in that place.

        I really thought Liriano was going to totally shut them down last night. He pitched well, but they couldn’t score off Leake. Leake has now given up 6 ER in the last 47 or 48 innings. Wow!


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  9. I like that play in the field is dictating who plays a majority of the time. As long as Mercer keeps hitting above .270 and isn’t horrible in the field he deserves to continue being run out there. I still think Barmes will play and important role on this team. Just not 5.5 million worth of important.

    • Barmes will need to look around for a new team in the off-season. I believe he will find somewhere around 0 teams looking for his services at starter $$. He could very well be back at a cap-friendly #.

      • Cap-friendly? What is this “cap” you speak of?

        This is baseball!! They will not have that type of language in this game!

  10. With the trade deadline coming up, who does NH go after?

    • I say he’s back in 2011 rental player mode for a high OBP outfielder.

      • Its gotta be right field then, I think they are sold on Marte

        And that means either Tabata or Snider hits the road.

        I’m not sure where they may be headed

        • Agreed.

          Seems like a vet for youngun swap at the same position makes sense, with the Pirates adding prospects to get it done.

        • Whoever it is, and it may be a couple of guys, needs to be able to hit LHP, right? I think they’ll look for a back-up outfielder and someone to take the spot Ingey is trying to give away.

        • I’m not sure Tabata is going anywhere, he’s guaranteed $11.5M over the next year. Now for an actual major league baseball player, that is pretty reasonable…

          For a weak hitting RF, who cant hit lefties, can’t pinch, can’t even stay on the field for that matter. I just don’t see anyone taking him.

          • Next 3 years*

          • I agree that he doesn’t have much value, but I think you underestimate the chances major league teams are willing to take.

            Relatively young, good pedigree, one season removed from back-to-back campaigns with an OBP around .350, and hitting well so far this year.

            The Reds willingly paid a 34 yo Ryan Ludwick $15m for just two seasons of work last winter. $11m over three years for Tabby is far from crazy.

            • True… But would Huntington have taken a chance on a young, good pedigree, former first rounder, “dripping with power” player, if he had an $11.5M price tag?

              Okay, so maybe Tabata isn’t trade-proof. But with his value as low as it currently is, you’re almost better off NOT trading him, and hoping he regains some value over the next year or two, right? Either way, I don’t seem him going in a trade this year, and I definitely don’t see him bringing back any kind of return.

      • I could go for a high OBP OF / Who are the possibilities?

        • I’ve heard Willingham’s name, but not so sure he’s doing so well this year

          • yuck, no, he is Ryan Ludwick 2011.

            • Ryan Ludwick 2012 was the Ryan Ludwick to have, unfortunately.

            • Ha, funny you mention that.

              Willingham was a trade target in 2011, if you remember, and only went on to slug 14 home runs after the deadline and 35 last year with the Twins.

              I’d take him in a heartbeat.

              • I always liked him, but I haven’t followed him this year.

              • If you put any stock in the “batting average on balls in play” theory, he’s about to improve on his current .211/.352/.411 slash line significantly.

                His ML average BABIP is .294 and has never deviated more than 10 points in any single season. Very steady.

                His current BABIP is .256. I’d take a chance on that.

              • Would we have more years on Willingham?

                NH and his team of back room numbers geeks love BABIP.

              • Why does it seem the Pirates are always looking for the same players??

              • One more, Jim. Twins have him at a relatively inexpensive $7m in 2014.

                They’re also absolutely atrotious on the mound, both at the big league level and in the upper minors.

                Guys like Morton, Locke, McPherson – hell even Irwin – would improve their starting rotation.

              • I don’t know how cheap Willingham would come. He’s got about $4M remain on his deal for this season, and $7 next year, which is incredibly reasonable considering Tabata is going to get $3M just to put heating pads all over his body.

              • NMR,

                I don’t see us giving up our #1 starter, Jeff Locke.

                Irwin and McPherson have to get healthy, but they can have either of them. Or Straight out of Cumpton. He might be a good MLB pitcher.

                I don’t know if any of them fetches (Ty) Willingham or not. But, I think your point is they need pitching and we can give them a decent pkg w/o touching our key components.

              • I’m still not completly sold on Willingham.

                His contract calls for a million dollar increase after a certain amount of PA’s.

                But who knows, maybe a change of scenery guy.

          • Willingham struggling in 2013 and just got a cortisone shot in his knee. That being said, he might be available on the cheap, he has averaged 32 HR’s over the last two years, and he is only 34. Would be worth a flyer if the price is not too high.

        • Too many to choose from right now and nobody will admit to being sellers at this point. Flip that coin and some teams (Reds) may hit the skids and become sellers at the last minute.

        • Jose Bautista comes back to the Pirates

          • Making $14 Mil over the next 3 years with an option for the same price.

            I see that as somewhat reasonable for his past production, but is he starting on the decline? Only 32, decent power numbers thus far.

            Go for it!

      • I don’t see that really but I am a little scared that we will ‘go big’ and make the wrong choice and pay too much in terms of prospects… give me Aramis Ramirez or Alfonso Soriano… we need right handed power…ARAM can play first… Soriano can play right field and that solves a problem we have…. I think they can avoid top prospects in both cases if they take on the money… but I could be wrong, just top of mind on my part.

        I think generically, my wish list is:

        1) RH hitting outfielder with some pop
        2) RH hitting established 1B
        3) Veteran reliever, perhaps a losing team’s closer — someone like Kevin Gregg maybe
        4) Doubt there is any value available, but durable starting pitcher who can also perform in the pen if needed

        • I believe I read NH being quoted as saying something to the effect that he’ll have to see what is out there, but that he likes the everyday lineup. I took that to mean he has no plans on trading away a top prospect. Of course, you never know who might come available.

          I’d be ok with Soriano off the bench, but there’s no way he’d agree to a trade unless he was told he’d be starting. And, he is soooo very bad in the field.

          ARam is a major piece, cmat. Doesn’t he have 2 more years on his deal in 8-digit territory? He’s one of the best fielding 3b in the league, and his ego will not allow him to back-up Pedro. I think that one is a tough one, and Milwaukee would insist on a huge haul for him.

          I like your idea of a RH hitting OF. I’m in that camp. Tabby cannot be trusted. His muscle pulls go on forever.

          Our pen is fine, IMO. Hopefully, we don’t need that starting pitcher. But, the way things are going anything is possible.

          Inge must go! As I said last week, he’s just playing for tattoo money now.

          • I am not a Neal fan (big disclosure), but even with the win or be fired mantra, I don’t think he’d pull a DL Morris deal or give up the future to save his job. Of course, I was shocked when DL did the Morris deal.

            • Ironically, I think his own arrogance saves the franchise from that type of move.

              I can’t see him saving his job by selling off the future he worked so hard to build. Even if it’s obvious to everyone else that he might not be around to see it.

            • Arriba brings a good question to my mind. NMR has alluded to it as well.

              Has it specifically been said that the big club needs to have a winning record in order for NH to save his job?

              Does the state of the ML system play any role in that evaluation?

              Just wondering because over the last 12 mo. or so, our ML system has taken a sharp upturn in the eyes of many serious observers.

              If Nutting feels the development system has really starting bearing fruit, post Hoka Hey, does he fire NH? I actually think NH’s standing in MLB is now much stronger than a lot of people around Pgh think. I hear him receiving quite a bit of praise from outside the organization. Just wondering about everyone’s take.

              • It was presumed by an interview (DK?) had with BN.

                BN expected them to win this year and didn’t come right out and say it, but made it sound like this was their year to get it done………or else.

              • Our fearless leader has adamantly stated, over and over, that Based on his discussions with Nutting it’s win or be fired. Does breaking the streak satisfy that or do they have to compete for a playoff spot deep into September? Not clear to me, but I think DK has at least set breaking the streak as the minimum for Nutting. And, personally, I don’t see them being fired if they break the streak, absent a collapse at least as bad as last year.

              • This goes back to Nutting’s quote over the offseason about contending for the playoffs.

                Terribly ambiguous, obviously, which leads me personally to believe he’ll use every reason possible to keep him.

                If the team finishes with a winning record and avoids collapse, they’ll likely be within 5-7 games of the 2nd wildcard. Nobody should be surprised if Nutting considers that “contending”.

              • Let me revise that, Jim. I’m not sure if that was a direct quote or something Dejan paraphrased from their conversation.

                Whatever the case, its never, ever as simple as “win or be fired” makes it out to be. Not with this Front Office.

              • Agree, NMR, I don’t think there were any quotes from the BN private conversation. If memory serves, there was no recording, either.

              • Should be interesting, to say the least.

              • Hopefully the team eliminates any ambiguity.

                And fwiw, I don’t believe Dejan was wrong or misleading with the “win or be fired” mantra, simply more confident that Bob Nutting would follow through than I am.

          • I don’t think he’ll do much

            Doesn’t want to mess up the chemistry ;-)

    • Sonja Henie is out, I say we go with Danny Noonan.

  11. Hey Lucky!

    Saw your reference in the last thread to Prince and “The Possum”. I too, can still hear their voices.

    Of course I can also still hear Mel Allen calling a “Ballantine three-ring blast” on a Mantle homer!


  12. I think it depends on the pitching. If starting pitching continues to have long term injury problems I could see them adding a starter. Otherwise the only spots that seem to make sense is Right Field or First Base if you are willing to move Jones to Right Field. Shortstops are almost impossible to trade for so upgrading that position to something better then Barmes/Mercer would be tough unless you gave up the entire farm. Marco Scutero’s don’t happen everyday and good luck catching that lighting in the bottle.

    • Which starting pitcher has a long term injury problem?

      • Nobody currently. I was just saying if somebody such as Wandy or Burnett end up having prolonged injuries then that may be the route they go. We are still some 35-40 games away from the deadline I believe. Alot of thing can happen in that mount of time that would change what they trade for.

    • I WANTED MARCO LAST YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Stupid Giants….at least Sabean listened to me.

  13. I’m going to duck for cover after this post, but did you see the “heat chart” for Cutch 2013 vs. 2012? It was painfully obvious that this year he is “pull happy” and last year he focused on hitting to right center field. I know players want to pull for the power, but how is this approach working out for Cutch? His slugging percentage is WAY down.

    I want Cutch to sit and watch tape of the allstar players on the teams we are facing… Exhibit A is Joey Votto… what does his ‘heat chart’ look like… seems to me he focuses on opposite field, like his HR last night. Ryan Braun (even though I despise him) seems to use all fields. We already have the Pujols example and actual statement he made a few years ago about Cutch…’if he would use the whole field, you will see him blossom into a premier power hitter’.

    Why Cutch, are you not going to right center this year? Why?

    Disclaimer: I LOVE Cutch and he is far from the biggest offensive concern. LETS GO BUCS.

    • Do you have a pitching chart to go along with that “heat chart?”

      Might answer your own question with that.

      • Are you insinuating he’s getting busted inside more often?

        Wasn’t the opposite true last year in the second half?

        • Pure speculation on my part.

          • Well, now, if people are going to just start speculating on this blog …

            • You’re right, it might get outta hand..

              Honestly though, Cutch found a bit of power last year, he’s still fairly young. They tend to try and pull more often looking for the HR.

              I agree that if he finds the RC approach he’ll take off again. That’s assuming he’s lost that approach.

              • In a roundabout way, I agree with that last sentence.

                Just because a guy like Pedro or Cutch is pull-heavy doesn’t necessarily mean that is his approach. It’s really, really hard to hit ML pitching, and even harder to hit opposite field. Doing it consistantly is what separates most of the elite hitters from the good ones.

              • yes, good point, but seems to me a good amount of his HRs last year were to right field, so not sure the ‘pull approach’ = power. But yes I havent looked at the pitching charts but I dont think they are pitching him a ton differently than last year but that’s just conjecture.

    • I’ve absolutely noticed this (as has my son)—definitely pull-happy, and I think it’s hurting him so far, despite the nearly .300 BA. I love Cutch, too. He’s a highly intelligent ballplayer, and I have faith that he will figure it all out in the long run. Amazing talent.

  14. My only wish at the deadline is that we either use $$ to go with veterans that are reasonable upgrades (Soriano, etc.) OR go big for someone like Stanton of Miami and use 1-2 top 10 prospects.

    I do NOT want them to use prospects for players that will only be here for 2013… a one-game wildcard playin is not worth giving up 6 years of Taillon or Polanco.

  15. 100 on the under. Thanks

  16. Good luck to the Bucs tonight.

    Big game for our 11U’s. I-80 championship semi-finals. We’ve been slumping. My kid needs to start raking again! See ya’ all.

  17. Just for fun, we should all get together & vote Clint Barmes into the All Star Game. It would be hilarious.

  18. A small piece of advice for the Pirates from Clint Hurdle on down. Shut up.

  19. Regarding the discussion on the trading deadline….isn’t it 6 weeks away?!

    With this team who knows what they’ll need by then. If the deadline was tomorrow they would need a starting pitcher – - or two.

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    Eddie Johnston, aka EJ
    Badger Bob
    Chuck Tanner
    Dick Groat, the best darn multi-athelete and announcer from Wilkinsburg
    Steve Blass
    Danny Murtaugh
    Rocky Blier*
    First Responders***
    20 countries
    46 states, plus the District of Columbia, missing 5 states, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alabama, and Kansas
    Two planets, at least confirmed, and the Space Station
    Honorable mention, England – London – Lisa
    “Terrorists will always lose in America, the sooner they figure out, the better”- truer words have never been spoken
    Asterisks denote confirmed hero’s, military, police officers or firemen/ladies
    6/18/2013 5:51 PM

  21. My hope for tonight is two-fold.

    No one on either team gets hit.
    Pirates score more runs than the Reds.

  22. Wow. Nice start. Speed kills!

  23. Bob Walk hates Brandon Phillips.

    I am not too find of him either

  24. Best thing about a lead-off triple . . . CH cant bunt!

  25. Need to cash in here and get Martin home after that great effort by him to swipe second, Russell be nimble, Russell be quick

  26. Cheers to ROOT for adding the number of pitches thrown to the score box.

  27. C’mon Walker

  28. Go Pedro. Make him pay for loading the bases.

  29. Latos ‘ fast ball looks straight — Pedro might smack one.

  30. El Toro with one of the longest singles you will see, but it produces two runs and Bucs jumping all over Latos…sweet.

  31. More adventures in baserunning.

  32. If Walker ever wants to get paid like the Brandon Phillips of the world, he needs to learn to play like the Brandon Phillips of the world.

  33. Latos sucks…Pirates must embrace that and take quick advantage…the best revenge is a thorough butt whoopin’!

  34. Way to go Chuck! Woo hoo!

    • Message received loud and clear. Saw Latos yapping at Chuck. We’ll see what happens in the 2nd. Greg Brown should be happy.

  35. Everybody happy now ?

  36. Now that someone got hit, everyone can rest their sphincters.

    • speak for yourself :)

      • Hi Jandy!

        Thanks to you and Jim for sticking up for my position today.
        I was so disgusted at that crap this morning, thats why I left, and I was debating not coming back in here tonight.

        • Darling Hippo, they were all over me before they were all over you. I was so pissed I had to leave the blog so I wouldn’t get myself banned.

          • Oh, I know.

            Last time I ever ask a question on a sensitive topic.
            Last time I ever address 2 posters here.
            I do know if DK was here this morning, that crap would have been put to a stop fast.

            I just want to have an enjoyable evening.
            Based on what transpired this morning, I guess I will have to be careful.
            Shame what this blog turned into today.

            • Hope you aren’t referring to me boss.
              I thought I kept a pretty level head in there.

              For me it goes like this…
              I just don’t get the argument.

              They hit our guy intentionally.
              That’s BS.

              The only way to get even is to hit one of their guys intentionally.
              But that somehow isn’t BS?

              • No I wasnt referring to you.
                Relax, Boss. :)

              • I’m all sorts of relaxed man.
                It’s baseball and it’s a blog.

                Far bigger things in the world to worry about brother.

              • I am all sorts of relaxed too. :)

                I just did not, in any way, shape or form appreciate what happened this morning. It was shameful.

                I would hope others share my view on that, but I dont know that they do.

              • Just for the record Playofffs, it wasn’t the argument that got to me, thats fine. It was the attitude and ignorant comments that got to me.

              • I understand completely.
                That’s why I tried to approach it from a respectful and historical angle.
                In the end it’s just baseball.
                No need for us to have any sort of hostility towards each other.

              • Agreed.

                Respectfully, you need to say that to the troublemakers this morning. Really. Hippos dont do the hostility thing well.

                Hence, the blindfold in my avatar. ;)

              • There are just a few I won’t bother to interact with any longer. Simple as that.

              • Yeah, but Jandy, you dont have an awesome blindfold in your avatar! ;)

              • Don’t need one, Hipposter, I have an ignore button ;)

            • No need to be careful Hippo, just be you :)

              • Oh no, Jandy, that wasnt allowed today.

                People looking for a fight………. I dont have time for those assclowns.

                Like I said, I will just come in and fool around.
                No substantative talk form me.
                No discussing “hot” issues.

                I will just swim around with my blindfold on.

                Nothing to see here, just move along……

              • Well, you just make sure you check in and chat with your friends, hear? :)

              • Yes Mother Teresa!

              • Thank you :*

        • but that won’t stop me from coming here and talking to my favorite Bucco fans :)

    • Stay classy, Playoffs.

    • Far from over. Now everyone gets to watch a Pirate get drilled. No warning issued.

  37. Well Morton stands up for his teammates, certainly just adds more gasoline to this already simmering fire.

  38. And no warning issued. Ain’t over. Charlie leads off the 2nd & Latos is a loose cannon.

  39. No warning?

    Boy, I’d hate to be Marte or McCutchen right now. Guess where Latos’ first pitch to one of them will be.

  40. I like Joey Votto. Stayed right in the box after the high and hard one.

  41. Ok my Dish just went out. dayum

  42. Thank you Charlie, for sharing our view on this issue.


  43. Gotta like top of 2 and your pitcher leads off.

    Also like 6 pitches in the 1st inning.

    But are we seriously still talking about the beanball?

  44. But I like top 2 and the pitcher leading off.

    I also like CM getting through 1 inning on 6 pitches.

    But are we seriously still talking about the bean ball?

    • Yes, just like when we go back to Milwaukee, all that will be talked about is Miller Park.
      Friggin’ Groundhog Day sometimes.

      • So it seems…I’ve seen no such retaliation. If the pitch to Votto was, it was a weak attempt.

  45. Can we just play ball now and have the Pirates just handle their business? All beanings aside…I WANT THE WIN(S)!!!!

  46. Latos struck Marte out without throwing one single strike.

  47. Marte is going to have start demonstrating an ability to lay off pitches outside the zone, that was six pitches and not one was a strike.

  48. FYI – for fellow out of towners, mlb has the game on since the Yankee and Dodgers game was postponed.

  49. My imagination or is Chuckles throwing a lot of breaking pitches tonight?

  50. Love it another 1-2-3 inning.

  51. Through two innings- Latos 48 pitches, Morton 17 pitches. Like to see the life on Morton fastball as he his between 94-97. Encouraging start.

  52. The pirates must have to play like little leaguers. They have to take until they get a strike. Latos keeps throwing first pitch fastballs for strikes and keep taking them and then swinging at the second pitch slider.

  53. I wonder if Dejan has finished cleaning his garage yet ?

  54. Of the 2 plays there, Gabby’s was the most difficult. Jones must made his look that way. When he’s in the OF, reminds me that he’s a decent 1B.

    Ha ha

  55. Garrett Jones has made himself into a very nice ML player with hard work, and practice.
    He will never be an all-star, but he is a nice piece for the Pirates to have.

  56. They obviously plan on winning this game 3-0.

  57. For those of you wondering where DK is, this pic proves he is sleeping in Point State Park………………..

  58. Great play by Mercer

  59. Jordy just about put that whole “arm strength” debate to bed. No question about his arm on that play.

    Cozart is not slow.

  60. Mercer showing he does have a major league arm. Clint who?

  61. Under 40 pitches thru 4 innings is a remarkable outing. This is how you pitch a complete game in today’s baseball.

    Liking what I see outta CM, so far. Still a lot of game to play against a tough lineup.

  62. Latos has struck out every starter except Gaby.

  63. Best scenarios all around, Morton escapes getting the groundout and it also chases Latos early. Time to add on here against Parra.

  64. We’re up by 3 and I’m glad their starter is finally out of the game

  65. So about 50 minutes ago, I jumped into the car after a business function. Didn’t have time to read (still haven’t) but saw that they were 2.5 innings and 49 minutes into the game and there were THREE HUNDRED THIRTY TWO POSTS.

    What the heck is going on?

    STILL don’t know but now there are over 400 posts and the game is only two-thirds over.

    What the heck is going on ????????

  66. Boy, this team cannot hit–it is great they are somehow winning games. And, they don’t run the bases very well either.

  67. Nice, Martin :)

  68. This team couldn’t hit Danny Almonte if he was tossing beach balls.

  69. That’s how you throw a runner out! Also the right call by the Reds to send the runner, just glad Martin was there and not The Fort.

  70. I am itching to see the Bucs score more runs.

  71. Martin’s arm is stronger than it’s ever been.


    Morton gets pulled after 61 pitches.

    No steroids there.

  72. Great job by Charlie. That’s what he brings to this rotation. Would’ve liked to see him get through the 6th, but no complaints.

  73. Great job by Charlie tonight. And he pitched well too.

  74. Stupid… Morton throws what 61 pitches and they yank him.

  75. It’s no wonder the Bucs bullpen has thrown some of the most innings in baseball, what is the logic pulling Morton at 61 pitches and relatively cruising along?

  76. Walk is not impressed with Phillips

  77. Good job my dear Watson

  78. Let’s score a couple more runs and put this game away.

  79. I think Dusty and his boys need to have their collective diaper changed tonight. They have laid a big smelly turd tonight.

  80. Elementary, my dear Watson. Now lets get some runs!

  81. The Reds are showing that they are thirsty for a win

  82. Wow, Partch walks Jordy in 4 pitches

  83. On cable (TCM), Three Coins In The Fountain is playing.

    Just thought I’d share

  84. Like I said, I want a base hit.

  85. There we go.

  86. Marte drills a 0-2 pitch for Bucs first hit and run since first, and an important insurance run that is. Two hit night for Marte.

  87. The bunt is our friend!

  88. Dude has ringlet curls.

  89. Down goes Frazier!

  90. Watson on a roll

  91. Nice job by Watson after giving up a double to Votto, 5 in a row.

  92. Caddyshack, Blazing Saddles and Three Coins in the Fountain all referenced in tonight’s game thread.

    Nothing from this millennium yet.

  93. It’s pretty bad when Lunchbox steals on ya…just sayin’

  94. Excellent pitching by Tony Watson for 1 2/3 without allowing a run, or even Charlie’s leftovers.

    Hurdle proves once again he knows his pitchers.

  95. Nice to see that the Pirates aren’t the only one with an incompetent back up catcher….

  96. Nice K. that’s two…one more Melancon…for the eighth inning

  97. Melancon just filthy on 13 pitches to get a 1-2-3 8th.

  98. Sick third strike by Melancon. We got to the Cheese!

  99. Grrrr! Friggin Dish out again!

  100. Pirate batters have struck out 16 times tonight, making the first inning stand up with another incredible pitching effort.

  101. 17 strikeouts.

  102. They really need to rectify this strikeout business. 17 tonight. Luckily they got the only hits they needed at the right times.

    • They made the Reds no name relievers resemble Sandy Koufax. Sandy would probably strike out 27 of these Bucs !!!!!

  103. Aaaannnndddd Dish is back :)

  104. ALl right…big K

  105. “We had ‘em all the Way”
    “There was nooo doubt about it”
    “Raise the Jolly Roger”

    In reference to Biz and the baseball announcer cd’s.

    12th shutout of the year.

  106. NICE!

  107. RAISE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  108. Behind a three run first inning and Pirate pitchers Morton, Watson, Melancon and Grilli combining for the 12th shutout this season the Pirates cut down the Reds to even the four game series 4-0 and there was noooooooooo doubt about it.

    With the win the Pirates move back to 13 above .500 at 42-29 and just a half game behind the Reds. The Bucs improve to 17-16 on the road, 20-12 against the NL Central and 5-3 versus the Reds this season. The Pirates return to action tomorrow night in the third game of the four game set with Jeff Locke taking the mound for the Pirates.

    Let’s Go Bucs!


  110. Raise it! And we only needed one so don’t worry about the K fest. Go Buccos!

  111. So you can retaliate and win the game at the same time ? Hmm.

  112. ….fear the Bones….

  113. Only 595 posts? Must be Groupon night.

  114. Well it’s been fun but I must turn in before I turn into a pumpkin. Night all!

  115. Well, Loonies, i am off to bed. 4 am comes too quickly.NIGHT!

  116. Good night all. Had a wonderful time. Rest your minds. Treat yourselves and each other well.

  117. And to top off the evening, there’s a black bear loose in the neighborhood. Nearly 30 years, that’s a first.

  118. What a completely enjoyable game! The first inning set the tone. Put up a three spot in our half; then Charlie plunks Choo with his first pitch! GAME OVER! WE WIN!! :)

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