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Final: Reds 2, Pirates 1, 13 innings

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (42-29) vs. Cincinnati Reds (43-29)

Starters: LHP Jeff Locke vs. RHP Bronson Arroyo

Time: 7:10 p.m.

Site: Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Russell Martin,  C
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, 1B
  5. Neil Walker, 2B
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Travis Snider, RF
  8. Jordy Mercer, SS
  9. Locke, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Dom says:

    Go Buccos!

  2. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Today’s Pick ‘Em Line
    Total INNINGS PITCHED by Jeff Locke in tonight’s game

    Less Than 1 (TRIPLE ODDS)
    1.00 – 4.00 (DOUBLE ODDS)
    4.33 – 6.00 (EVEN ODDS)
    6.33 – 8.00 (EVEN ODDS)
    8.33 and Higher (DOUBLE ODDS)

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

  3. Frankie says:

    100 on 6.33 to 8.00


  4. Dom says:

    100 on 6.33 to 8.00!!!!!


  5. Bill Born says:

    50 on (4.33 – 6.00) Please.

  6. Bizrow says:

    Hmm, today I will lose 100 nuke nuggets on the 6.33-8.00 bet

    Decisions, decisions…..

    Thanks Playoffs

  7. Bizrow says:

    I kinda like this line-up

  8. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    100 on 6.33 -8.00

    Why not.

  9. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Yea, except for Snider…

  10. Bizrow says:

    This just in, the Big Z has said no thanks to an Indy assignment.

  11. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Biz. Stick with me, we won’t lose…

    though I’m still waiting for an updated list.

  12. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Doesn’t like the food in Indy?

  13. Arriba Wilver says:

    I know I said this yesterday, but seeing Mercer in the 8 spot just seems a huge change in terms of optimism.

  14. Arriba Wilver says:

    Thank the Lord.

  15. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I agree.

    Still liked seeing that throw he made last night even more though.

    Big league throw

  16. cmat0829 says:

    100 on 6.33 – 8 por favor.

  17. Jim S. says:

    Sure does make it legit, doesn’t it? No breezing through 2 straight batters. I like that Jordy has taken a couple of walks the last 2 nights. He is starting to get it. I like it.

  18. cmat0829 says:

    Good riddance.

  19. Bizrow says:

    + 1

  20. Jim S. says:

    I think he likes the food everywhere.

  21. Arriba Wilver says:


  22. Jim S. says:

    That throw put me a lot more at ease with the fact that his quickness on grounders up the middle may not be nearly as good as Clint’s.

    Fact is, it sure looks like he does everything better at the plate AND is adequate at SS as a rook. Not bad at all right now.

  23. JRay3 says:

    Good afternoon to the window, from a post card perfect San Diego. Can’t wait to get over to Anaheim for this weekend’s Bucs / Angels series, but before that two key games remaining with the Reds.

    On to the Wednesday pick ‘em. This has the makings of a trick line this evening. In Locke’s nine May and June starts surprisingly he has pitched six innings or less in seven of the nine. Have to play the numbers as there is no evidence of CH trusting most of his starters yet and seems happy getting six.

    50 on 4.33-6.00

    Thanks and Let’s Go Bucs!

  24. Nate83 says:

    100 on 6.33 to 8.00.

    Ground ball pitcher pitching to aggressive swinging team could make for some quick innings. Plus they need someone to go long with Mortons only going 5.1 and tomorrow they probably won’t let Crumbley go more then 6 max.

  25. Thundercrack says:


  26. Thundercrack says:

    I wanted him to be a September call-up.
    He could be, absolutely no pun intended, an innings eater if there is a blowout game.

    And if we need someone plunked we can call on him….without worrying if he gets suspended.

  27. Jim S. says:

    I heard that Lunch Box is inviting everyone on the team over to his house in Seattle for dinner while they are out there. I hope they are all giving him their per diem to pay for it. Imagine that tab – Big Z or no Big Z.

    He explained how he got that nickname last night. Something about going to an all you can eat buffet between HS football two-a-days, which he said was not the brightest decision he ever made. But, apparently it gave him cult status with the older players.

  28. Thundercrack says:

    By the way, next year when we’re going on and on about how well someone is doing in Spring Training –think of Zagurski.

    He pitched really well in ST

  29. cmat0829 says:

    Don’t want to open up the whole ‘beanball’ debate, but seems to me there is ONE team that people talk about throwing at players and it ain’t the Pirates, folks. Yes, the Bucs lead the league in HBP thrown but they have a stated directive to their pitchers to ‘pitch inside and take back that part of the plate’… I can’t recall any time this season that I felt like the Bucs were deliberatlely throwing inside except in retaliation.

    I have to say, as much as it is easy to hate the Reds (arrogant soles like Dusty, Brandon and Latos), but how can you not love how Joey Votto plays the game. He stayed in the box when he was pitched inside, no chirping, no tough talk… hate the Reds but got to like Votto.

  30. JRay3 says:

    Have to like all the news recently that I have read on Wandy and AJ. Wandy set to pitch rehab Sunday at Indy and today it was reported that AJ Burnett told 93.7 that he hopes to pitch in the Seattle series at the end of the current road trip.

    Team continues to weather the storm and healthy bodies seem to be just on the horizon. Question becomes after one replaces Cumpton, who is the next individual to leave the rotation?

  31. Nate83 says:

    I liked that play as well but he circled that ball and made it a more difficult play then needed. I would like to see him take more aggressive paths to the ball but I think he is doing what his skill set calls for and it still got the job done. It certainly wasn’t a routine play and he made it.

  32. Dom says:


  33. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    List was updated on Monday.
    It will be updated again Thursday evening and then again on Sunday evening.

  34. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    List was updated on Monday.
    It will be updated again Thursday evening and then again on Sunday evening.

  35. Jim S. says:

    When was the last time it was not post card perfect in San Diego, JRay? I’ve been there about 4x, and it was beautiful every day of every trip. Perfect climate.

  36. Arriba Wilver says:

    We don’t need that joker to come up with that “skillset.”

  37. cmat0829 says:

    Oh and my thought on lifting Chuck in the 6th last night, after only 61 pitches… loved it. Clint knew we absolutely needed that game and in that park, with a runner on and one out and votto/phillips/bruce coming up, you have to go with the pitcher you TRUST there… you can’t TRUST Charlie yet because you just don’t know when he’s gonna elevate the ball and get hit … and trust me, if Votto got on and Philips hit a 3run tying jack, you’d be angry that Clint let Chuck go too far….. got to play the percentages and go with what you trust.

  38. Jim S. says:

    I only saw it once, but didn’t bounce over Pedro?

  39. Arriba Wilver says:

    I like Votto, too. One of those guys you’d love to have on your team.

  40. Jim S. says:

    He was lighting it up in Indy as well. But, then the Show lit him up. He’s not finished. He’ll get another shot elsewhere.

  41. cmat0829 says:

    Agree Dom, though that would be hard. Cole can go back to AAA and be ready to come back when needed, though it might be really tempting to add him to the pen for the stretch run like the Reds may be doing with Cingrani.

    I cant see AJ pitching in Seattle, so Cole will have a few more starts… as will Charlie… if Charlie falters, then he goes, not Cole… it is about performance now, though it both are pitching the same, Cole goes.

  42. cmat0829 says:

    absolutely, he is left handed and throws 93-94, he is likely on his way already somewhere, after a quick stop off to capsize a Sizzler.

  43. Jim S. says:

    Votto is awesome. But, I think I must have seen that pitch wrong because everyone seems to have a different take than I did. I didn’t think it was that far inside. I thought it was high and just off the inside corner, and not that close to him. But, after what Chapman had done the night before, maybe it caused everyone to be on their guard a bit.

    I had speculated that one of the possible ways to end this crap from Chapman, which was also an issue vs. Cleveland, is that one of their players, Votto for instance, might need to pull him aside and straighten him out.

  44. Jason81 says:

    100 units on 6.33 – 8.00, please!

  45. NMR says:

    Votto, best hitter in the National League. Only guy in baseball I’d rather have at the plate is Cabrera.

  46. Bizrow says:

    I heard he was spotted at Wendys getting a TRex a few minutes ago

  47. Bizrow says:

    I hear the Big Z is pretty darn good at the plate?

  48. pattonbb says:

    100 units on 6.33 – 8.00

  49. Arriba Wilver says:

    You’d think you were getting paid, Playoffs. :-D

  50. NMR says:

    Honest question, does Chapman even speak English?

    I don’t mean to come off as racist, only ignorant, but a Cuban defector doesn’t exactly seem like a “normal” teammate.

    Who knows what is going on in that guys head.

  51. NMR says:


  52. Jim S. says:

    Agree that CH made the right move last night, as he has nearly every time with pitchers this season. At some point soon, though, he needs to let young Ground Chuck flee the nest and throw more pitches.

    But, as you say, cmat, CH sensed how important that game was and did not want this series to slip away.

    Of course, Votto did go all Votto on Watson right away. Then, he buckled down and toyed with Wilson Phillips and Jay The Bruce.

  53. Karen22 says:

    100 on 6.33-8:00

  54. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1. He’ll keep popping up. Oh, to be a lefty.

  55. pattonbb says:

    He’ll catch on somewhere. Lefties with low to mid 90’s fastballs are few and far between.

  56. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    cool thanks…

  57. Karen22 says:

    Oh, darn. We won’t have Z to roll around anymore…

  58. NMR says:

    Very surprised, guys. Not disagreeing, just surprised.

    I think Cole has to show he has more than one pitch or else its back to AAA.

  59. 21sthebest says:

    I think of lots of players when we do that – Craig Monroe, Matt Hague, Yamaico Navarro….

  60. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    So jealous of your location…want to trade?

  61. stickyweb says:

    I’ll go with the obvious sucker play and take 100 on the 6.33-8.00 line. Besides, Biz is due to hit one, right? :-)

  62. Nate83 says:

    I’m just being nit picky. It did hop over Alverez but Mercer was really deep. He did this as well other night on a possible double play. He waited on the ball and it cost them the out at first. Alverez is very aggressive at charging the ball and obviously Barmes is realy good at this as well.

    All that being said I think Mercer should continue playing 75-80% of the games as long as his bat stays above .270.

  63. pattonbb says:

    I can’t stand Joey Votto.

  64. pattonbb says:

    Good point Jim. That pitch was off the plate, but not under his chin.

  65. cmat0829 says:

    Yep… seems to me sometimes folks overlook the need to win in May/June so you can be in a position to collapse in August (lol)… Clint is managing for today with an eye on tomorrow, not the other way around. Can’t say I’d have him do any different.

    I don’t see any statistical evidence the Pirates arms will fall off any more than the other teams… if anything, the STARTERS last year were sucking wind as much as the bullpen was.

  66. Jim S. says:

    Yuk Yuk!!

  67. NMR says:

    It does illustrate how much experience equates to trust in Hurdles book considering he went to Watson, arguably the teams worst reliever this year currently on the roster.

  68. 21sthebest says:

    About 18 starts left for every pitcher assuming you stay on an every 5th day rotation. Cole threw 132 innings last year and he’s at 80 so far this year.

    See where I’m headed here?

  69. Dom says:

    Personally I think he can use more time in AAA and this will extend his arbitration by a year.

  70. Jim S. says:

    Somewhere, John Franco is smiling.

  71. stickyweb says:

    Yeah Jim, the replay showed that it was actually just off the plate, maybe even caught the black. But since it was eye high, it’s close enough for these 2 teams to get excited about (or at least their fans to). But just from the height it was about 3 feet closer to his head than a normal pitch.

    I also loved the way he stayed in the box on that. Hopefully he does pull Chapman aside/slap him upside the head.

  72. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Pretty sure that was the case Jim.

  73. Brandie says:

    Mr. Playoffs…

    May I have 100 on 6.33-8.00? Thank you.

  74. Arriba Wilver says:

    If he was on your team?

  75. Jim S. says:

    Language could be a possible barrier. I would think there are plenty of Spanish-speaking players, or even a club-paid interpretor.

    Just off the top of my head, though, the Reds don’t have an abundance of Latin players do they?

  76. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Jesse Orasco

  77. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I’m a lefty…it doesn’t help if you can’t break 75mph

  78. Lad9 says:


    100 guarani on 6.33 – 8.00 innings please. Thank you. Go Buccos!

  79. NMR says:

    That he’s on pace for about 140 IP by Hurdle standards?


    Very good find, 21. Very good.

  80. Jim S. says:

    Tigers fan callers to MLB Radio this morning were actually COMPLAINING about Cabrera’s inability to get clutch hits lately. It was so laughable. He’s hitting .359!! With, I think, 70 or so RBI and 20 or so HR.

  81. Jim S. says:

    That’s what I thought also. Thanks stickyweb.

  82. Brandie says:

    (Doing my best Homer Pyle). Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

  83. Arriba Wilver says:

    I always suspected you were really Neal Huntington.

    :-). :-). :-)

  84. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Many of the coaches act as interpretors. I believe for the Pirates, is the BP catcher.

  85. NMR says:

    Actually, none that I can think of. Wow. Very odd.

    I’m thinking more along the lines of relationships with other players, though. Again, could be ignorance on my part, but Aroldis strikes me as a guy who does HIS thing.

    I do not have a very high opinion of him, if you can’t tell.

  86. Dom says:

    I always suspected you’d be the poster who would expose me.


  87. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  88. Arriba Wilver says:

    Watson started out badly, but he’s been pretty darn good for a while now.

  89. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    No problem :)

  90. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    In a perfect world…

  91. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Beat me to it….

  92. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I don’t see them dumping Charlie even with a couple of bad outings.

  93. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I figured only 90 more to go

  94. Brandie says:

    Hello again, Lad9.

  95. Jim S. says:

    I will throw in a quick “language story” from a Cubs broadcast a few years back. Pat Hughes and Ron Santo (may he RIP) were on the radio side. Anyone that ever heard much of Santo, knew that he was probably one of the most sincere, down to earth, great guys connected to the game. But, no one ever needed to review his application for acceptance to MENSA.

    So, the Cubs were playing and their catcher and pitcher had a conference at the mound. Both players were Latin players. Hughes loved to set Santo up, and he pounced on this opportunity by saying, “Ronnie, with those two Latin players conferencing at the mound, what language do you suppose they are speaking?” Santo, whether knowingly or not, quickly replied, “I guess Latin, Pat.” There was about a 10 second pause. Maybe so they could both regain composure from laughing. Then, Pat Hughes said, “I’m thinking Spanish, Ronnie.”

  96. cmat0829 says:

    Not sure I’d classify as “worst” reliever but better yet, who do you TRUST in that situation in terms of the current bullpen?
    in that case, Ryan Reid is the “worst”… I’d say Morris would’ve been a stretch… I’d have been ok with Wilson or Watson, but clearly Watson wasn’t the worst choice.

  97. JohninOshkosh says:

    50 fakers on 1:00-4:00

  98. NMR says:

    Off the roster? Never.

    To the bullpen? It would be really, really, reeeaaalllyyy hard for them to send Cole back down if he continues getting results.

  99. Arriba Wilver says:

    You’re OK in my book, Dom.

  100. Brandie says:

    Good day Ms. 22.

  101. JohninOshkosh says:

    I know. :)

  102. pattonbb says:

    I’d love him, but that’s beside the point.

  103. NMR says:

    Reid is only up because of injury.

    Otherwise, statistically, Watson has the highest ERA and batting average against LHB of the relievers currently on the roster.

    Regardless, it was down to him and Wilson, and I unquestionably would rather have Wilson against the heart of the order.

  104. NMR says:

    Great call. Right at that 170 mark.

    cmat’s bullpen stint idea makes a lot of sense, IMO.

  105. NMR says:

    As long as Charlie isn’t completely sh*tting the bed, of course.

  106. Jim S. says:

    Clint is definitely the more polished SS. Hopefully, Jordy does just as you say Nate.

  107. cmat0829 says:

    Clint (Hurdle) said the other day “Jordy is a guy who has to rely on angles on defense, and he’s getting better at learning how to do that… Barmes is that kind of guy too and he is teaching him”.

    Barmes charges balls aggressively, almost always throwing on the move off his back foot… Jordy will do that more and more as he goes along.

  108. Drew71 says:

    Dom’s fine in your Book but he has a problem on the Internal Valuation Scale.

    Zagusky has problems with scales, too.

  109. pattonbb says:

    You’re asking for another “Things I Hate About Cincinnati” list, John!

  110. Jim S. says:

    Dan Plesac.

  111. NMR says:

    Hahaha, what a story!

  112. Jim S. says:

    Me, either. And we haven’t even gotten into the hooker discussion yet.

  113. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I agree. But Charlie was more effective (right usage?) last night than what Cole has been. IMO.

    I see this trend continuing for him.

    Great midseason acquisition.

  114. NMR says:

    But, with that being said, it means more to the team in the long run to have FOUR guys Hurdle can trust. And if Watson can use that experience to continue his rebound, as AW alluded, more power to him.

  115. Jim S. says:

    Cross that bridge when you get to it?

  116. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I don’t mind the BP idea. I’ve mentioned that before as well.

    I saw how well David Price did in that role, though he was used as a closer before he stepped in the next season as a starter.

    Imagine the gas he’d bring for 2 innings of BP work.

  117. Arriba Wilver says:


  118. theplanisworking says:

    Thats because Blues Traveler, his band, isnt scheduled to play Indy this year. ;)

  119. NMR says:

    Between you and I, as long as nobody else is listening, I agree.

    Without using “luck” or any wonky stats, Chuck’s repetoire is far superior to Cole’s at this point, and I’ve yet to see Cole locate his fastball well enough to be a one-pitch guy all year.

    I expect that’ll change, but don’t necessarily think the team should just close their eyes and hope it happens.

  120. Jim S. says:

    I don’t know if Charlie is totally ready to give us 6 innings per outing for 18 more outings, either. That would be 120 innings, plus the rehab innings. Seems like a lot to me after TJ.

    Cole should be good for a 10% bump from last year, plus he is now more efficient. Maybe 160?

  121. theplanisworking says:

    He ordered the “side of beef with fries”………..
    with a DIET Coke. ;)

  122. TCB says:

    4.33 – 6 for 100.

  123. Jim S. says:

    Great comeback, Dom.

  124. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Paul Assemacher

  125. Jim S. says:

    Which might explain the (hopefully) brief stints on the CL for Wandy and AJ.

  126. Jim S. says:

    I was quickly eyeballing his WHIP last night on the screen (thanks, ROOT!), and it looked to me like his ERA was higher than his WHIP deserved. Some PRO-gression coming maybe.

  127. 21sthebest says:

    So 170 innings would be averaging about 5 innings per start the rest of the way and do we think the front office will let him go almost 30% more than last year’s innings? And what if we’re playing in October?

  128. Jim S. says:

    IMO, Wilson needed a rest from the night before. He needed to trust Tony there. Tony got it done. Clint has the magic touch so far this year.

  129. NMR says:

    Rizzo was crucified for shutting down Strasburg at 160 last season.

  130. stickyweb says:

    I don’t think it explains that. I think both being hurt explains it more. If they were doing it as a CL move, no way in hell they’d put them both there at the same time without reliable replacements ready.

  131. Karen22 says:

    Brandy, you must change your name to Martini today in honor of National Martini Day…

  132. Karen22 says:

    That would be, “Brandie.” UGH! EDIT BUTTON!!

  133. Jim S. says:

    This here Thread will be pushing 150 posts very soon.

  134. 21sthebest says:

    It’s just amazing to me that Tom Seaver, for example, threw 251 innings his rookie season, then 10 consecutive seasons after than averaging 273 innings.

  135. theplanisworking says:

    That’s a very strong piece of thread. ;)

  136. stickyweb says:

    But speaking of arms falling off, am I the only one that thought using both Melancon and Grilli in a 4 run game was stupid? We’ve come to the point where we need to plug these guys in just to get them some work and not get rusty (who’d a thunk that 2 weeks ago?), but MM pitched all 3 games over the weekend and could have used another day off. You know CH won’t use him today and tomorrow, no matter how desparately they need him.

  137. Jim S. says:

    The DIET Coke balances things nicely.

  138. Jim S. says:

    Ricardo Rincon.

  139. theplanisworking says:

    Yes! Saves 80 calories.
    Just pay no mind to the 14,759 calories in the side o’ beef.

  140. Jim S. says:

    Was that you, Patton? I thought it was Osh. Regardless, it was a hilarious back and forth. I recall Schotzie the Dog being dragged into it as well – kicking and screaming of course.

  141. KJX says:

    100 on 6.33 – 8.00

  142. theplanisworking says:

    Great food story that just happened on the way home……..

    I dont eat any fast food…. it doesnt like me, but I do enjoy Wendy’s ice cream thingy, and McD’s sweet tea. I pull up to a McD’s, and order a sweet tea……… but in looking at the menu, I noticed the 1/3 pound burgers are gone (I think they were $3.99?)……. and replaced with a 1/4 pound burger. No biggie, Right?

    1/4 pound burger is now $4.29.
    So they go down in weight, up in price.
    Found it amusing, and glad I dont eat there.

    Zagurski must be crying as we speak…….

  143. NMR says:

    *raises hand*

    Although I don’t like the “stupid” word. I’d say unecessary. Nothin’ says he couldn’t have tried Mazarro before going to MM.

    *runs for cover*

  144. Jim S. says:

    Men were men in those days, 21. Actually, young Seaver was before my time, but I know he was a beast. Everyone now talks about how great Clemens was (and he was, of course) before he cheated, lied, threw splintered bats at Piazza, threatened people, etc. Seaver was the real deal. Imagine a team with him and a young Ryan Express!

  145. JHadar says:

    Late to the discussion above, so breaking in here:

    Has Mercer become the starting shortstop? I took heart when Clint said it was “too early” to comment on that, BUT . . .

    Why is the guy with the .804 OPS batting eighth, because it’s the spot where the guy with the .496 OPS usually hits?


    If I’m managing or general managing (and no I’m not) — Cole stays in the rotation, Morton goes to long relief, and Cumpton and Ried go to Indy when AJ and Wandy come back. Another tough decision if Gomez makes it back, too. Definitely picking up some young bats for arms at trade deadline no matter where we are in the standings.

  146. JHadar says:

    I was always told you can’t push a thread.

  147. Jim S. says:

    You’re right. I was being a little facetious. But, as it turns out, maybe their rest and rehab period could turn out well by the end of the year when we need them strong.

  148. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Nobody else is listening, we got blocked yesterday…

    So its cool.

    In hindsight, signing CM for 2 mil is a cheap mid season pickup. If I remember correctly, NH mentioned something of that sort.

  149. Arriba Wilver says:

    Clint announced a day or two ago that Jordy would be getting the bulk of the starts at shortstop. Stopped short ( no pun intended) of saying he was the starting SS, but might have been just a courtesy to Barmes. He did say Barmes would be getting starts and they would look for matchups.

  150. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Extend that limit!!

    No Nationals garbage here

  151. Jim S. says:

    They showed Melancon’s pitch count for the week last night. I think it was 3 games and about 42 pitches – seemed reasonable. He only threw 5 or 6 on Sat.

  152. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    200 innings used to be the mark…what is now?


  153. Jim S. says:

    It’s gone from thread to string, to twine, and heading toward rope status with a bullet lately.

  154. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I’m with ya.

  155. Arriba Wilver says:

    Hey. What’s this with bringing up facts? :-)

  156. theplanisworking says:

    The New, Improved Clint Hurdle……… coming to a ballpark near you!

  157. Jim S. says:

    How true, Hippo.

  158. Jim S. says:

    I feel like the Mazzaro experience may be about to get rocky.

  159. Brandie says:

    Martini…shaken, not stirred!

  160. Brandie says:

    In a Bobble Head.

  161. theplanisworking says:


    Nice avatar.
    Between yours and mine, we have the funniest ones…..

  162. Brandie says:

    Thank Jandy for finding that one for me. He is in a hilarious YouTube video with Beaker and The Swedish Chef that parodies Carol of The Bells. Makes me smile.

  163. theplanisworking says:

    I am the Swedish Chef!!!
    Bork, bork, bork !!!

    Beautious day in the Pond today.
    Looking forward to tonights game.

  164. JRay3 says:

    Good point.

  165. JRay3 says:

    Highly doubt it, here for a work conference for two days, could not have asked for better location to be sent to, very close to Petco. Always liked how they have the back part of that stadium open during the afternoon for the park area just beyond the outfield with a great view into the park.

  166. pattonbb says:

    I think he started it and I added my 2 cents worth.

  167. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Arthur Rhodes

  168. Bizrow says:

    I don’t want to see the list

    I pretty much know where I stand ;-)

  169. Bizrow says:

    Not really ;-)

    I yam what I yam in this competition

  170. cherrokee23 says:


  171. JD says:

    100 on 6.3 – 8.0 please.

    Lets Go Bucs!

  172. Bizrow says:

    I don’t think anyone posted this yet

    Beat Em Bucs

    Go like 60

  173. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Giants had their 200th consecutive sellout today. The walkup was 0.

  174. theplanisworking says:

    I will take 100 Hippos on 1-4 innings.

  175. theplanisworking says:

    Is that sustainable? ;)

  176. JHadar says:

    I guess I’m just in the mood for observations today — but a couple more.

    At the beginning of the season I would have been overjoyed at the prospect of 82-80, but if we go 40-51 from here on out it will be agonizing.

    It seems like forever that when we’re hot, so are Cincinnati and St Louis, and when we cool off so do they. One of the most interesting races — the three best records in the NL and 3 of the best 4 in MLB.

    The one game playoff is a farce. It depends on who has the best pitcher available that night. If we can play blizzard ball in April, we can play it in October.

    Standardize the rules. Get rid of the DH. Tell the union keeping an old guy on the roster is keeping young talent stuck in the minors.

    Bronson Arroyo, why does that name ring a bell?

    The Cubs are 22-18 outside of the division.

  177. Arriba Wilver says:

    Must have been a groupon. (Firsties)

  178. MadTurk says:

    They want him to work on the angle’s. The hop may have adjusted his route.

  179. theplanisworking says:

    Is Groupon similar to the old S&H Green Stamps? Or Top Value Gold Stamps?

  180. JaxBuc says:

    Please sir, may I have 50 shuttlelockes on the 1.00 – 4.00 line (and I hope dearly that I am wrong)?

  181. How about 30-61 JH? That would be even more agonizing. Close to last year’s mess.

    But we have a short memory, don’t we, thank God?


  182. MadTurk says:


  183. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Funny what a difference a bay makes.

    Giants sell out every night, tickets are expensive and the A’s, who are playing better baseball right now can’t give tickets away.

    Big difference in venue.

  184. Brandie says:

    Me too. Should be fun. Glad things are stellar in the Pond today.

  185. theplanisworking says:

    Your avatar makes me laff.
    If I ever change the Hippo avatar, I am getting Swedish Chef!

  186. stuart66 says:

    Playoffs, please wager 100 units on the 6.33 to 8.

    Thank You,


  187. cosmo says:

    100 on 6.33-8.00


  188. Brandie says:

    Glad you are laughing. Another reason I chose Animal…The Muppet Movie is the first movie I ever saw in a movie theatre. I would have been 5 years old. I did not weigh enough to hold the seat down, so it kept folding up on me. Ah! The Memories!

  189. Barb says:

    Onion or olive?

  190. Barb says:


  191. Brandie says:

    Whatever trips your trigger.

  192. Barb says:

    I like the old guys – Statler and Waldorf. Some days I feel as old as they appear. :)

  193. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Gotta hope he has a big 2nd half this year.

  194. NMR says:

    Pitches thrown in-game are only a fraction of those thrown warming up, no?

    The body knows no difference.

  195. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Nice end to a threat there…..

  196. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    whoa, whoa, whoa….I’m working overtime..that’s NOT cool.

    I’m out!

    Let’s Go Bucs!!

  197. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    One day they will move the statue of Neil Walker that stands in the batter’s box night in and night out to somewhere on Federal Street.

  198. Did these guys ever hear of protecting the plate with two strikes? Too many times they take very close pitches and K instead of just fouling it off. Pedro just misses a HR by a couple feet.

  199. Brandie says:

    5 to 4 to 3…double play. Quite nice.

  200. Playoffs by 2012 says:


  201. What up, Playoff!! Let’s go Buccos!

  202. Lad9 says:

    Hey Brandie. Back in finally. Damn work is killing my blog time but finally done. Pray for me though – I have to spend tomorrow and Friday in – gulp – Cleveland. Oh the humanity! :)

  203. theplanisworking says:

    You and me both.

  204. Reading says:

    Jerry Meals says he’s out.

  205. Arriba Wilver says:

    Give it up, man, you’re toast. :-)

  206. Great throw by Marte. Mercer almost hosed the relay, but we still got um to keep the game 0-0. Come on bats!!

  207. pattonbb says:

    Cozart is toast!!

  208. MadTurk says:

    Ah nice call there Meals. Guy just get the call right at home plate

  209. theplanisworking says:

    As long as we dont go to extras, we will be ok. ;)

  210. Sorry, was actually Walker that almost botched the throw by throwing it too much on the first base side. Was listening to Rock 4 on that one instead of following my own eyes.

  211. MadTurk says:

    :-) at least this one was close,

  212. Hopefully, since that game, I wander if MLB makes Meals watch that play 10-20 times each time before he umps behind the plate.

  213. Brandie says:

    Let’s wake up the bats now.

  214. MadTurk says:

    Couldn’t hurt, at least not for us Pirate fans. maybe a little pay back there?

  215. Brandie says:

    Ouch! Sending as many good vibes as possible.

  216. theplanisworking says:

    Its Selig. Come On, man!!!! ;)

  217. theplanisworking says:

    Arroyo with the assist for us! ;)

  218. Oh the speed of Martin!!! Bucs lead 1-0 after a great triple by Marte.

  219. pattonbb says:

    RIP James Gandolfini

    Sorry for the non-baseball news…..

  220. theplanisworking says:

    And Slim Whitman too.

  221. Brandie says:

    Tonight, at least for now…the plan does seem to be working. (Taps fingers together greediky.)

  222. Reading says:

    See, an MLB hitter can hit one back up the middle, cause the pitcher to boot the ball, and bring in a run.

  223. theplanisworking says:

    Get the loud gong, Brandie.

  224. theplanisworking says:

    Well, I am glad to see the goof contingent alive and well!

    My plan is to swim around in the cool water.

    And sit on Dusty the Dork !!! ;)

  225. Brandie says:

    I love it when a plan comes together. (A-Team reference.)

  226. Barb says:

    Wow he was only 51.

  227. theplanisworking says:

    You know, you look at Locke, and one cant help but feel he is due for a relapse, or coming down to earth.

    I am glad he hasnt so far. :)

  228. Barb says:

    My dad had 78 rpm records of Slim.

  229. theplanisworking says:

    Slim was 90. ;)

  230. Barb says:

    Shh Hippo don’t wake the gods!

  231. Barb says:

    James Gandolfini was 51!

  232. JHadar says:

    Some great defense tonight so far, eh?

  233. MadTurk says:

    He does seem to be looking for he corners now more so thenin his first few starts.

  234. Lad9 says:

    Btw love the avatar!

  235. Brandie says:

    Not going to spend much time waiting for the other shoe to drop. Go Locke. Go defense. Shut ‘em down!!!!!!

  236. Arriba Wilver says:

    I was listening to the pregame and Brown asked Clint what he thought of the report that Latos had told the media that he thought MLB should look into the Pirates because they had hit so many batters. Clint, who obviously had not heard the report, said, well, he thinks Latos should call Bud and ask him to look into it. I guess Latos is a good sport–NOT.

  237. theplanisworking says:

    +4 (for the members of the A-Team).

  238. Brandie says:

    Animal just some up who I am. Again, I owe Jandy for this.

  239. theplanisworking says:

    Coming from one of Dusty the Dork’s pitchers………… I cannot measure the irony involved.

  240. Arriba Wilver says:

    sore loser. too bad he had to lose his first game since August of last year. If he wouldn’t have given up the 3 runs in the first maybe he wouldn’t have. What a tool.

  241. theplanisworking says:

    I remember him from the TV commercials……..

  242. Brandie says:

    As Animal says in Carol of Bells…Ding! Dong! Ding! Dong!……DING! DONG!

  243. Brandie says:

    Calling Latos a tool is an offense to tools.

  244. Arriba Wilver says:


  245. Lad9 says:

    Bad day for entertainment industry deaths. Three today.

  246. Arriba Wilver says:

    As you guys have been saying, he needs to grow a pair. :-)

  247. MadTurk says:

    When is Chase coming up? Who would take over 2nd base to give Walker a break? Jordy or Chase? Surely not Inge

  248. theplanisworking says:

    Speaking of Brown…………………
    interesting he hasnt been on TV side since going ballistic Monday night.

  249. theplanisworking says:

    Zagurski. ;)

  250. pattonbb says:

    Who was the third?

  251. Brandie says:

    Raul Mondesi!

  252. MadTurk says:

    You guys, gals and Hippo’s are to much

  253. theplanisworking says:

    Derek Bell’s boat just pulled in……… ;)

  254. Brandie says:

    I Pity The Fool!!!!!

  255. theplanisworking says:

    Think he already has those……. in spades. ;)

  256. Brandie says:

    With Ian Snell as first mate.

  257. theplanisworking says:


  258. Nice pitch for Locke to get Cozart. 1-0 still, get some more hits – and RUNS!!!!

  259. theplanisworking says:

    Gotta stay happy!

    I just sank like a rock on Playoffs line tonight.

  260. Brandie says:

    No way. If you could bottle and sell the downright silliness that sometimes occurs on this blog, we would be millionaires.

  261. theplanisworking says:

    Bronson Arroyo looks like a deformed Muppet.
    That is all.

  262. Brandie says:

    Or should that be…I Pity The Tool.

  263. Barb says:

    Don’t insult the Muppets. They are way much cuter. He has a face only a mother could love.

  264. Lad9 says:

    And a crew of Jeremy Burnitz, jogging George Hendrick, Aki Iwamura and Sixto Leczcano.

  265. Arriba Wilver says:

    TV Commercials? What about Blazing Saddles and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb? Commercials? :-)

  266. pattonbb says:

    Here we go again…jeeze.

    I hate Dusty Baker more every day.

  267. theplanisworking says:

    With Rod Barahahahahajas swabbing the deck. ;)

  268. Brandie says:

    Look at you, busting out the Sixto Lezcano reference. Can’t have a party without crazy Randall Simon, though.

  269. theplanisworking says:

    Did Slim sing on those? ;)

  270. Brandie says:

    And Jimmy “the gut” Anderson providing the snacks on Grab Your Piece of The Suck Island.

  271. theplanisworking says:

    Yeah, ol’ Randall was a hit…………… ;)

  272. Lad9 says:

    Random stat. Cutch is 1-22 lifetime vs Arroyo. The 1 is a dinger at least.

  273. theplanisworking says:

    Anderson….. wasnt he Zagurski’s big brother?

  274. Brandie says:


    Dusty Baker’s head is shaped like the poop emoticon. Just figured I’d share that.

  275. pattonbb says:

    Nice one, Brandie

  276. Milo Hamilton says:

    Adventures in baserunning. Starring Russell Martin.

  277. Brandie says:

    Seems that way.

  278. Lad9 says:

    Today’s base running blunder brought to you by Direct TV and Hyundai. Sigh.

  279. theplanisworking says:

    Baker’s head IS the poop emoticon!! ;)

  280. Patrick(ri) says:

    There it is, our daily boneheaded base-running blunder.

  281. Arriba Wilver says:

    sniff, sniff, sniff—I think that’s enough beans, boys.

  282. Patrick(ri) says:

    +1. You got there first.

  283. MadTurk says:

    I have that emoticon the steaming one at work. Needless to say I use it quite a bit.

  284. Brandie says:

    Again with the base running miscues! Gotta tighten that up,

  285. pattonbb says:

    reminiscent of Ryan Braun

  286. MadTurk says:

    At least we have it out of the way for the rest of the game. fingers crossed

  287. theplanisworking says:

    The Pirates baserunning mistakes make Who’s on First look serious.

    I think they need to implement a system where every baserunning goof results in a $$$ penalty given to charity.

  288. Arriba Wilver says:

    oh, I thought you meant Slim Pickens. Yeah, I saw those commercials, too. I liked Slim Pickens better, but he died in 1983. ;-(

  289. Lad9 says:

    At least today it is offset by the pick off Lock had.

  290. theplanisworking says:

    Slim Pickens, Slim Whitman, they both were slim.

    Normally, they give the “Slim” nickname to a whale……..

  291. Lad9 says:

    How about the Hippo’s Pond fund for wayward base runners. At the rate it would grow it would soon be Hippo’s Lake!

  292. Patrick(ri) says:

    Put Blass in as judge of a Kangaroo Court! Except these guys make so much money, it wouldn’t work these days.

  293. theplanisworking says:


    In a years time, it would become Hippo’s Ocean! ;)

  294. Lad9 says:


  295. kr70 says:

    who’s at fault Martin or Leyva?

  296. Thundercrack says:

    The Reds are quickly approaching the Brewers for most bone-head plays

  297. Thundercrack says:

    I’m not sure that the 3rd base coach has much to do with the runner’s lead from second and for him to pay attention

  298. Patrick(ri) says:

    Ido younsee stuff like this in AA ball?

  299. Patrick(ri) says:

    I type like these teams play baseball.

  300. florida steeler says:

    McCutcheon and Walker are killing this team offensively.

  301. pattonbb says:

    The more I see them play, the more I believe the Reds win IN SPITE of Dusty Baker.

  302. pattonbb says:

    all on Martin

  303. theplanisworking says:

    Very poor baseball there.
    Bases loaded, one out, no runs scored.

    This team simply cannot afford to leave any runs on the bases.


  304. Milo Hamilton says:

    A quick prediction. They’re going to need more than 1.

  305. Milo Hamilton says:

    But then again 12 times they haven’t.

  306. cosmo says:


  307. 21sthebest says:

    Bases loaded, 1 out. Pitcher up. It happens. And Locke had the right idea. I don’t see how that was poor baseball.

  308. JRay3 says:

    Just saw that Jeanmar Gomez needed just 52 pitches to go five no hit innings down at Indy tonight…when has the team possibly had a surplus of pitching that it appears to have accumulated?

  309. JRay3 says:

    Pirates have hit a couple of warning track shots tonight without much to show for it. Arroyo still dealing at 109 pitches.

  310. Patrick(ri) says:

    No justice if Locke is not selected for the All Star game. He has been wonderful, and consistently so.

  311. 21sthebest says:

    It depends. Leyva should be yapping at Martin the whole time he’s leading off until the pitcher goes home.

  312. JRay3 says:

    If the selection is based on this season’s numbers and results he should be a lock…no pun intended.

  313. Patrick(ri) says:

    Hope i did not jinx him.

  314. Thundercrack says:

    This Locke kid is pretty good

  315. Locke good through 7. Get him more runs so we don’t have any drama in the 8th or 9th.

  316. Milo Hamilton says:

    Scoreless inning for Contreras at Indy today.

  317. Drew71 says:

    I hadn’t been completely sold on Locke.

    I’m married. I’m used to being wrong.

  318. Milo Hamilton says:

    This is the problem with stacking Walker together with the 2 lefties. Makes it real easy for the opposing manager.

  319. JohninOshkosh says:

    Whatever became of that bear in your neighborhood, Milo?

  320. Lad9 says:

    I think you are right. And we are so used to just having one representative and even then it sometimes being a hideous reach (Mike Williams, Ed Sprague, Carlos Garcia) that we underestimate some of our guys chances. Grilli, Locke and Cutch should be representing one of the top three teams in the league!

  321. JohninOshkosh says:


  322. Do these guys know that they need to do stuff in this league to be turned into statues after they are done playing. SWING THE BAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  323. Lad9 says:

    + a ton

  324. cosmo says:

    At least they haven’t reached 17 yet tonight.

  325. Milo Hamilton says:

    Big news today around here. Sightings all over the place. The proper authorities have been alerted. We’re only about a mile from the Allegheny, maybe he was going for a dip.

  326. True, but they could reach 9, which is still not good.

  327. 21sthebest says:

    Tweets scrolling along the bottom of the screen. Awesome.

  328. cosmo says:

    Another strong outing for Locke. I’ll have to admit I wasn’t sold on him coming out of spring training. Been a real pleasant surprise.

  329. JohninOshkosh says:

    I see em camping sometimes up north. Would be crazy to see one in an urban setting.

    Don’t leave your garbage out!

  330. Lad9 says:

    Lets get some breathing room here for Cheese. Too close for comfort.

  331. JRay3 says:

    Another really efficient an quick inning of work for Melancon who just needs 10 pitches tonight.

  332. cosmo says:

    Another pleasant surprise this year.

  333. Simon says, “HIT THE BALL!!!!!”

  334. Milo Hamilton says:

    And impress upon the kids that just because it might look cute they call them wild animals for a reason. We’ve had plenty of deer but this was the 1st bear.

  335. Thundercrack says:

    I don’t think Nevrett listens when Wehner talks. (Rick just mentioned the 3 inning save!)

    I wish I didn’t hear Nevrett

  336. theplanisworking says:

    Is that 4 or 5 HBP so far this series?

  337. Barb says:

    Well the Reds are 2 for 2 tonight on hitting our players.

  338. Arriba Wilver says:

    Drew’s going to make me pay for this.

  339. Barb says:

    I hope Baker chokes on that toothpick.

  340. JRay3 says:

    Someone needs to tell Latos it obviously isn’t just the Pirates who pitch inside, maybe he should report his squad to Bud while he is off flapping his gums.

  341. Thundercrack says:

    Who is our bunting coach?

    Fire him

  342. Lad9 says:

    I have 5. That Playoffs knows how to make a line.

  343. theplanisworking says:

    Another great piece of baserunning presented by youe 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates.

  344. cosmo says:

    Mercer picked off, inexcusable!

  345. Milo Hamilton says:

    Probably the same as the baserunning coach.

  346. theplanisworking says:

    Your also.. ;)

  347. JRay3 says:

    Pirates baserunning sure knows how to mess up some innings, one thing that definitely will have to improve in second half…no excuse for Mercer to be sleeping.

  348. cosmo says:

    If you are going to send a pinch hitter up to bunt, why not use another pitcher to do it?

  349. theplanisworking says:

    I can only think of 4………… gald you are counting. Hippos dont do math too well

  350. pattonbb says:

    Bet Barmes wouldn’t have gotten himself picked off.

    I’m just kidding!

    Dusty knows Pirates won’t retaliate and put tying run on base. They’ve done this a few times.

  351. Arriba Wilver says:

    Beat me to it.

  352. Thundercrack says:

    Grilli should just drill the next batter

    And maybe the one after that one too

  353. Lad9 says:

    The pond is expanding….

  354. cosmo says:

    Neveritt had to mention Grilli tying franchise record with a save tonight.

  355. JRay3 says:

    It was eventually going to happen to Grilli, more disappointed the offense could not generate bigger lead when it had chances.

  356. cosmo says:

    and the blog heading had Final Pirates 1-0

  357. Lad9 says:

    I just said the same thing. And he had to sat 37-0 leading after 8. Still, it had to happen sometime.

  358. theplanisworking says:


  359. Thundercrack says:

    It wasn’t sustainable for Grilli.

    An some think it is remarkable what he is doing at his age

  360. florida steeler says:

    Great run by Grili but Hurdle cannot keep using these two guys night after night. But, the Pirate base running and lack of key hits is disgusting.

  361. Lad9 says:

    I have Cutch in game 1, Choo and Paul last night, and Martin and Mercer tonight. The night is still young.

  362. Cutch is freakin due to have some good luck.

  363. pattonbb says:


  364. Lad9 says:

    Lets rip this punk right now!

  365. florida steeler says:

    Cutch the clutch–this is starting to get old–earn your money!!!!

  366. Milo Hamilton says:

    Just think back to all the incredibly stupid things they’ve done tonight. Don’t deserve to win this one.

  367. theplanisworking says:

    Like I said, there is a reason I failed Hippo Skool. :)

  368. cosmo says:

    The only runs the Reds have scored in this series are all solo HR.

  369. cosmo says:

    Funny, tie ball game and Chapman didn’t throw at anybody’s head this time.

  370. pattonbb says:

    Maybe Jerry Meals will give them one tonight. Certainly don’t deserve the win with every stupid thing they’ve done, but I’d happily take it.

  371. Thundercrack says:

    Why isn’t Walker in there?

  372. JRay3 says:

    Double switch

  373. Patrick(ri) says:


  374. Lad9 says:


  375. Patrick(ri) says:

    Gotta get Barmes bat in there!

  376. Patrick(ri) says:

    Have the Reds run out of good pitchers?

  377. JRay3 says:

    Does it matter with these bats tonight?

  378. Patrick(ri) says:


  379. Reading says:

    Barmes must go yard or this one is basically over given the Reds coming up.

  380. Patrick(ri) says:

    HR, but a good at bat.

  381. pattonbb says:

    great at bat by Barmes there.

  382. Reading says:

    Marte needs to go yard.

  383. The trainer needs to break out the smelling salts for these hitters. Jeez!

  384. Reading says:

    Not looking good now Need a pitcher here, not a belly itcher.

  385. How ’bout a belly itcher on the Reds staff, but then again AA guys come up and shut this line-up down.

  386. florida steeler says:

    Someone needs to tell the Pirate batters that hits cannot happen with a bat on their shoulder. The hitting on this team is atrocious.

  387. Reading says:

    Survive and advance to the next inning.

  388. florida steeler says:

    Walker has been horrible and someone needs to take the right handed bat out of his hands.

  389. Reading says:

    Well, I was wrong. I am not all knowing and seeing. Okay, time to win.

  390. Arriba Wilver says:

    On the other hand, neither do the Reds.

  391. Milo Hamilton says:

    12th inning rally cap. Remember Comerica.

  392. Steelag70 says:

    This Pirate offense is pathetic….not sure what is going on with Cutch…he has definitely taken a step back this year….

  393. Patrick(ri) says:

    Gonna bunt CH?

  394. 21sthebest says:


    I don’t know how to determine when a team does or does not deserve to win.

  395. Steelag70 says:

    With the way Cutch has been hitting he might as well…

  396. Steelag70 says:

    Really Cutch, 0-6???

  397. Arriba Wilver says:

    Might want to wait to see how he ends up.

  398. Milo Hamilton says:

    We all know it takes a home run with this crowd.

  399. Steelag70 says:

    Milo…I would be happy if Cutch just had a couple of singles tonight….

  400. pattonbb says:

    Last time Cutch was 0-6 was that other Jerry Meals game.

  401. Steelag70 says:

    Why is it not ok on this blog to criticize Cutch? He has underperformed…he is the “franchise” player….

  402. Steelag70 says:


  403. Milo Hamilton says:

    Soon they’ll release Inge. Then he’ll go to Baltimore & hit .300 the rest of the season.

  404. Steelag70 says:


  405. Milo Hamilton says:

    Vin Mazzaro’s in for the reverse close.

  406. pattonbb says:

    the “open”?

  407. Steelag70 says:

    How many days has it been since Inge had a hit??

  408. 21sthebest says:

    Why is it not okay to be patient?

  409. Milo Hamilton says:

    June 5th at Atlanta. The only hit that day. That’s his only hit this month. He has 3 hits since May 18th. I’ll stop now.

  410. Steelag70 says:

    Nice job Vin….

  411. Steelag70 says:

    Well with Inge’s stats what more CAN you say??

  412. Steelag70 says:

    27 K’s in two games for this team??? Wow…

  413. Milo Hamilton says:

    That’s what I meant by the reverse close.

  414. Steelag70 says:


  415. theplanisworking says:

    Lower The Jolly Hippo.

    Poor baserunning, too many LOB, weak hitting.
    Hoping for better things tomorrow.

  416. Arriba Wilver says:


  417. Arriba Wilver says:

    Who said its not OK. But what you said isn’t accurate yet. Do we have to stay silent when Cutch is criticized because he’s the franchise player?

  418. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    As Donnie Iris once said, “It’s a tough world, ain’t it a rough world?”

    We’ll get them tomorrow.

  419. Arriba Wilver says:

    Locke pitched another good game. He’s not going to make the All Star team, but the idea is getting less ridiculous all the time.. (Hope I didn’t jinx him)

  420. Fish says:

    Joe Beimel

  421. NorthPirateFan says:

    It’s the natural and completely expected outcome for a team whose manager says stupid things like “The Pirates’ biggest issue is they are not putting enough balls in play” and continues the failed approach of previous managers that swinging at everything is a sound approach to hitting. The lack of discipline and inability to control the strike zone that results from the approach has been the Pirates’ single biggest problem going on 21 season now.

    That Clint Hurdle can look at this teams results and point to the strike out totals as a problem but not recognize their dismally low walk totals as an issue tell you everything you need to no about the root of the offense’s troubles.

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