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Final: Pirates 2, Brewers 1, 14 innings

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (50-30) vs. Milwaukee Brewers (32-47)

Starters: RHP Charlie Morton vs. RHP Kyle Lohse

Time: 1:35 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, RF
  5. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  6. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  7. Michael McKenry, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Morton, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Karen Price is on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. True Sunday lineup, hope the bottom of the order can muster something and not be an albatross.

    Most interested in Morton and can he continue to make small steps forward. Until AJ returns this rotation still invokes some uncertainty, especially when considering the injury history and the never done it before aspect some of these arms bring. Even more timely the piece on Searage today.

    That said chance at nine straight. Go Bucs.

    • Thanks for reminding me they have 8 in the bank already, JRay. I mentioned on the earlier thread they were going for 8 today.

      I’d like to see the other streak extended as well – the one that sits at 5 home games in a row. I wonder if there is a decent shot of that.

  2. Pirates (50-30)

    I love seeing that!!!

  3. Last night- a 2-1 W ending on a grounder up the middle fielded by the SS- can you say 1971 World Series?


    After today’s game the standings will be updated. The June winner and the 1st Half winner will be announced. Also a special 2nd half line will be posted. GOOD LUCK!!

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Today’s Pick ‘Em Line
    Total Combined HITS + WALKS by Clint Barmes + Michael McKenry in today’s game
    0-1 (EVEN ODDS)
    2-3 (EVEN ODDS)
    4-5 (DOUBLE ODDS)

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

  5. 100 on 4-5 please. Go Bucs’

  6. Oh geeze. Barmes sneaks in there.

    Get him OUT of there, McCutchen, Walker Jones and Alvarez can play every day, so can Mercer.

    • and he’s younger than those others, BUT CH’s boy you know.
      My main reason, for my opinion of CH is right here

      • geeze, you are a broken record Bob… Clint likes to get regulars two days off, when there is an offday… Jordy has played in 13 straight games, and he won’t play 162 games, even if the backup is CH’s “boy” as you called him.

        Hurdle has this team at 50-30 and in first place and you just can’t wait to dig him on playing Barmes on a Sunday.

    • Isn’t Morton considered to be a ground-ball pitcher?

      Maybe that is the reason Barmes is getting a start today.

      • Perhaps you’ll get a chance to fairly and objectively evaluate Barmes’ range

        • I’m curious Bob. When someone disagrees with you, are they unfair and unobjective? I’ll take the TRIP-TRIP-TRIPLE ODDS that the answer is 99% of the time.

          • In the case of Barmes, I can’t believe his fielding liabilities haven’t emerged to a genius like you.
            Do yourself a favor and observe his game today, then get back to me quickly.
            I am already excusing your oversight.

            • In the case of Bob Hasis, I can’t believe his communication abilites haven’t emerged beyond bickering.
              Do yourself a favor and observe your comments today, then get back to me quickly. I am already excusing your oversight. (just kidding Bob) But do you get the picture?

              • Maybe you should define your intent, “I’m curious Bob, when disagrees with you, are they unfair or unobjective?. . . . . . . . .”

                Bickering? I’m not sure what you meant.

                My comment to TC was a reasonable response to his comment about Barmes and the anticipated ground balls Morton will induce.
                If Morton is on his game we should get a fair sampling of ground ball activity

            • Since Barmes can’t hit at all, people love to just rip apart everything. He’s a very good defensive SS, better than Jordy Mercer. All of the numbers bear it out, and even though you make fun of the way Barmes throws, he has a very quick release. I like Mercer, but it kind of looks like he’s shot-putting it to first.

      • That’s a good point, TC

    • Mercer has played in how many games in a row now?
      Barmes was due to get one start sooner or later.
      Not the end of the world if he plays once every 2 weeks.

      • No of course not – merely the end of an 8-game winning streak.

        I’m not that cynical, it just sounds that way

        • Bob, I would think having to play McKenry puts greater odds of winning streak ending than playing Barmes.

          Not only is McKenry not hitting but his liability of turning walks and singles into doubles due to not throwing out runners and teams running at will, puts far more pressure on team.

          • Yes I agree with that.
            I can’t even say the streak will end, but we sure aren’t doing everything we can to have it continue

            • Everything can’t be about today. Guys have to be somewhat fresh in case they are needed. If Jordy fouls one off his foot today, and goes down for a few days, I don’ think they can dig the ghost of Honus up fast enough to get him in Tuesday’s lineup.

              CH has gone from not trusting him at all to trusting him with 90% of the starts at the most important infield position.

              • Well put Jim. Guys will need days off, breathers, and so on. Its a very long season, and we’re just getting to the halfway point.

      • Totally agree, have to find ways to get your bench guys an occasional start from time to time to keep them somewhat sharp, no problem with Barmes getting a game.

        • I agree with that too, but today isn’t an exhibition – or is it?

          • No it isn’t, but I remember out at the game last Sunday getting to the ballpark and seeing no Cutch, no Martin in lineup versus Angles and the other guys found a way (granted Martin did end up playing a big part by games end).

            CH gave Inge a start and was rewarded with 3 run HR in Seattle, Sanchez gets starts versus RHP at times to keep him sharp, the backup catcher has to play, and you have to find spots to play your backup infielder as well.

            • Did you feel a little nervous – no Cutch, no Martin – and that game was a struggle with a great result.

              BTW, I might also be the only one here who thinks Inge is more valuable than believed

              • Let me get this straight, Bob. Barmes is the worst player on the team, and Inge has more value than believed? here

                I think Barmes will be here all year, as he provides a valuable service as a mentor to Jordy and a capable defensive replacement.

                I believe they are actively looking for Inge’s successor, friend or CH or not. He has had one good game over the past 30 opportunties, and is playing out of position when he’s in RF.

                I never thought, I, of all people, would be defending Barmes. I believe he is the worst hitter in MLB. I am thrilled he is no longer the starter. But, unorthodox or not, he is a good defender and a good influence, apparently. I agree that his arm is lacking. It seems to me he compensates well by charging the ball more aggressively than most SS, and he gets rid of it quickly. The defensive metrics I have seen over the past few years bear out that he does a good job at SS. Sometimes the eye test also needs data to accompany it. Good talent evaluators look at both, and then also sprinkle in the first hand opinions of people they trust.

              • Its kind of hard for Inge to hit with that giant fork sticking out of his back.

          • But I will add this Bob, you were first and loudest about need to play Mercer everyday, and he has played up to the billing you were giving him and saw in him both with the bat and defensively.

  7. 50 on the 2-3 line, please.

  8. 50 on the 2-3 line please.

  9. 100 on 2-3, please.

  10. Well more news with Wandy, 24/7 reports he received a cortisone shot in elbow in addition to being shut down and is awaiting further evaluation from docs. There will be real concern if the shot does not help as that is probably an all-in attempt to fight through what he is battling.

    Bucs testing superstition today, will wear the ’71 throwbacks.

  11. It’s been 34 and 42 years now since the Pirates won their last two championships.

    No city hangs on to their winning moments like Pittsburgh. But two generations now have passed since Roberto Clemente and then Cap’n Willie and “We Are Family” captivated this city.

    It’s time for the younger folks to have their own Pirate treasured memories to hold on to.

    I see the improvement on the field but I just don’t sense the swagger that comes with being the best and knowing it. There are some hints of that in some of Cutch’s comments. You know—those “We have to play the Cardinals this weekend” comments where he responds “No, they have to play US.”

    Makes me smile.

    In 1979, you would sit in your seat and just stare at each player as they readied for the first pitch, playing catch or tossing grounders to each other, and, as your eyes floated from Sanguillen to Stargell to Stennett or Foli to Taveras or Madlock to Moreno to Lacy or Robinson to Parker you couldn’t stop yourself from blurting a smile. And you would grin and slowly nod your head because you knew they were damn good.

    We felt it again in ’92 With Bonds, Van Slyke and company.

    But with this 2013 Pirates team as it finally begins to gel again—well, you’ll know when you watch them take the field and you feel all warm inside and think to yourself, “There’s no way we are going to lose this game today.”

    When we feel that moment, we’ll know that these Pirates have arrived for good.

    • Nice post…..most of those guys were proven veterans. I think this team is too young to display the same intangibles yet. Although, I do see those qualities in Marte and Cole in particular. Marte definitely has a bit of swagger, and Cole just seems so confident and poised, expecting to do well.

    • We are not there yet, IMO, Dave G. I believe this team is a good downpayment on a great team in a few years. The 2015 or 2016 edition of this team might just be what you are looking for again.

  12. I know it’s been a bone of contention at times, and i think i can understand removing it from the sidebar…..but, I miss the link to DK’s twitter feed

    • +1. I agree, even though I do not tweet. The jibes wre often amusing, occasionally enligtening and sometimes grating (like a “trip,trip,trip . . .).

  13. To anyone who questions whether the Fort, Barmes, or Inge should ever play……….

    no, they are not good. But even the 70′s Reds had to spell Rose, Bench, etc. with scrubs. No team has 25 HOFers on the roster. As long as Barmes, et al dont play frequently, we will be ok.

    GO BUCS!!!

  14. Oh, and for as much as I like Letang, I think the deal he signed today will cripple the Pens. Say goodbye to Duper, and say hello to very little flexibility for the Pens roster.

    We now return you to our Bucco thread. :)

  15. It used to be a game, but now it’s a business.

    Playing baseball was never tiring or laborious; we couldn’t wait to play and missing a game was unthinkable.

    They have agents/lawyers now who draw up complicated and tedious contracts, which may govern how many games, how many innings not to be exceeded by a given player. I know the game has morphed into this, but I don’t have to like it.

    Medical technology and sophistication of testing is a great advancement here and in life as well, which can’t be challenged. Second opinions still exist, but teams lawyers will also be included in final decision making, along with the team doctors, as well as the players representative, and the union rep – possibly.

    Dizzy Dean today would never pitch with a broken toe, which changed his delivery, ruined his arm and shortened his career.

    I accept it because it is baseball today – my favorite sports passion!!!!

    But a maintenance day; oh yeah tell Gen. Patton you have a headache or are nervous or scared.

    Let’s Play Ball

    • Since you brought General Patton into this…..I think it has more to do with winning the war, not just the battle at hand

    • Isn’t that all inconsistent with you blaming Hurdle? Or do you not like him merely because he doesn’t do what YOU want?

    • George Patton commanded American armies made up of many divisions of many soldiers and he rotated his divisions in and out of the line during WW II according to how much and how heavy their combat experience had been. That is something that all good commanders do. On a much smaller scale, a good field manager who runs a major leage baseball club uses the same logic. It has nothing to do with having a headache or being nervous or scared. George Patton lost his temper with some guys he thought were faking their symptoms of combat fatigue and were in the hospital. Possibly because in two wars, he didn’t experience it himself.

      Let’s let Clint Hurdle and his command team decide which of his players needs a one-day break and when.

      • You have accurately described Gen Eisenhower’s responsibilities, Head of the ETO, who provided soldiers to where replacements were required. Often add’l. equipment and replacement soldiers were unavailable – for numerous dangerous reasons – so Patton needed everyone whom he had that could stand.

        But I apologize for bringing Patton’s name into these discussions, because I never felt baseball or any other sport should be labeled as a “war”.

        I do apologize!

        • Sorry to disagree with you again, Bob, but Patton commanded two different armies in WW II — the 7th and the 3rd.

          In military terms, an “army” is composed to two or more “corps,” and a corps of two or more divisions. Patton conferred with his subordinate corps commanders and they gave the divisions well-deserved rests behind the lines when it was felt they needed it. Ike did not interfere with his army commanders’ decisions, though he may have been involved along with his staff with some of the decision-making.

          In the same way, neither Bob Nutting nor Neal Hunnington would interfere with Hurdle and his coaches’ decisions about when to rest his players. The issue you raised was whether players in modern day baseball deserve to be given days off from time to time, that somehow the old-timers were tougher and didn’t need breaks.

          I say it’s Hurdle’s proper responsibility to make day to day decisions like these and not ours’ to criticize, however analagous you might suspect it is to what goes on in wartime.

          In any case, apology accepted.

  16. Routine grounder to short. Reason dude is playing in 3B-SS hole?

    • Which dude? Are you referring to my favorite guy?

      It was routine, but turned into a single. Besides no range, also no quickness and no arm.

      I beg your pardon, I have a bad habit of repeating myself

  17. What is the over and under on a Pedro HR – day game – righty pitcher

  18. Lost satelite from heavy rain starting to move in. Located just 5 miles to the west, south west of PNC Park. Looks like rain is going to play a factor today.

  19. cue bob hasis

    • Uh oh.

      • It’s not just Bob – I too would have cut my losses at this point on Barmes and Inge…

        Lambo deserves a shot at right field – JT hitting .211 at Indy – seems like he might be pouting [again!]

        Sanchez could start 2-3 games a week – pinch hit and allow them to only use McHenry in an emergency…

    • You beat me to it. But he will be right

      • Clarification. He is correct about Barmes’ skills in 2013. His range has declined steadily since 2009 to the point where he is getting to about 7% fewer chances per 9 innings than an average MLB SS. He was league average last year. I think the decline in his physical skills has highlighted his poor fundamentals – taking the ball on the glove side, throwing on the run, etc. In other words, he can’t hide his bad habits anymore. That being said, he still needs to play once in a while and I understand why he is in there.

        • Well I don’t get it – he adds no value as a bat – he is subpar as a defender. Harrison can play SS in an emergency – and D’arnaud is at Indy. I would DFA him in a heartbeat – along with Inge and McHenry.

  20. One-handed fielding of grounders. Don’t try that at home.

  21. Might be a silly question, but why doesn’t the grounds crew have rain gear?

  22. I wonder what the rule of thumb is for managers is when it comes to how long a delay they will allow to keep starter in game? Is there a magic number that states too long of delay we go to the pen?

    If Lohse has to leave game, advantage Pirates.

    • I’d say this is where the manager (who has the final decision), pitching coach and pitcher need to be in accord. No egos needed here, probably no hard set of rules either

  23. Just watching these rain delay programs, and listening to Jay Bell, IMHO it would be Bell giving tutoring to Mercer more so than anyone else.

    He sounds authentic

  24. any word on when play will resume?

  25. Did Letang sign?!

    Great. Just when I thought The Final Word was going to be dominated with Pirate talk

    Will Rossi have to tweet in his opinions ?

  26. Really? Brewers complain about length of Mazarro’s glove laces….I think if I were Vin I’d put one between the numbers, in this inning.

  27. Nice time to have Pedro think about going yard again.

  28. A hit would be nice.

  29. BARMES gets the first hit…. now let that jumpstart the team… and Mazarro has pitched masterfully… shocked the Bucs haven’t capitalized on Thornburg

  30. 3-2, two outs, Barmes should have been 3/4 of the way to third when the ball was hit and waltzed home on the single.

    • waltzed home? nah. RF was very very shallow and ball was hit sharply. IMHO he could’ve been near 3rd when fielder got the ball and would’ve been dead duck at the plate with a good throw. With Marte coming up, that is a bad risk/reward equation to send him home there.

      • Completely agree cmat

      • You send him. The “another” hit never materializes. Should be tied.

        • IMHO if you send Barmes there he is out with a medium to good through there and you take bat out of Marte’s hands completely.

          It’s one thing to say ‘take chances’ and see what happens, another thing to claim it’s a tie game if they sent Barmes there. That’s a bit much.

          • The ball was not hard hit. An arching single. The kind of two out hit that other team’s routinely score on with a guy on second.

        • Dead out. Would not have been close no matter who was running.

    • How can you be 3/4 of the way to a base when a ball is hit unless youre stealing?

    • Exhibit A. The prosecution rests. 1-1.

  31. Wow, do the Brewers want to get outta town or what? Give Vin credit, he took the mindset of efficiency to the mound to give the bucs innings and is throwing strikes… yet another superlative bullpen outing, to get Bucs through the 6th with using just 1 pitcher after the rain delay…and he barely threw 30 pitches!


    • Maybe it’s those “long glove strings” that is the magic Vin is weaving… the Brewers’ freeswinging offense is mesmerized by the strings….

    • Was just going to ask about that. Can’t see the game — following it here and on Yahoo! Sports. Sure looks like Mazzaro is pitching to perfection.

  32. Marte just made a nice running catch in right that other fielders would have let drop in for a hit. It’s one of the reasons why the Bucs give up so few hits and runs.

    • left not right, but yes, i agree.. saw it in person in seattle, the ground that marte and cutch cover is amazing… under-reported ‘story’ of this season… speed and positioning of defense (including the dreaded shifts) making a big impact….

      I think it’s kinda funny when people complain when a hit gets through a shift but never, ever comment on the many, many times hits are taken away by the shift.

  33. Sometimes I dream at night about Pedro SITTING changeup and crushing one of those about 500 feet… not gonna complain about El Toro in midst of one of his amazing streaks, but to see him (and GI Jones too) swing fastball time after time vs. changeup…. it’s a bit offputting.

  34. Well now, that certainly stunk.

  35. This might be one of those ‘luck evens out’ games… Bucs are crushing it with nothing to show for it…. Brewers get their run on error and bunt….

  36. Wow, Nats pounding Mets 13-2.

  37. Playoffs, one suggestion…on your over/under lines, please add HBP as an option … LOL>

  38. From the out of town scoreboard…. A’s have chased Westbrook and have a 6-5 lead in the Mauseleum….. Texas again shutting down the struggling Reds offense and lead 3-0 in the 8th…..

    I haven’t watched the As at all this year… how are they doing it? I know it must be pitching, defense, timely hitting, but I can’t really name any players on their team other than Cespedes, Lowrie (only b/c I wanted the Bucs to pick him up) and Moss (only because I know he is actually hitting unlike his time in Pittsburgh)…..

  39. Where’s our version of Bartman?

  40. The Pirates have the best fielding outfield in baseball. Best fielding has less to do with errors than with chances offered and outs or assists made. Combined with great pitching, it leads to wins.

    That Brewers’ catch in left field was the outstanding play of the game.

    Only four hits for both teams.

  41. Looks like Barmes has been productive while riding the pine… he has grown a “Wolverine” beard, perhaps he has a sponsor tie-in with Marvel Films and the upcoming release of The Wolverine in July?

  42. About that Gaby Sanchez flyout – everyone sitting in the 1st row that got out of the way to allow the catch should be escorted out of the park and asked to never return.

    • I could be wrong, but don’t think so…. if the fans reach INTO the field of play the batter is out anyway… it looked like Shaffer caught the ball BEFORE it went into the stands and therefore fans can’t be blamed for not interfering…. but I didn’t study the replay, just my quick observations.

      • As long as the fan doesn’t reach into the field, they can do whatever they want. Looked to me like Schaffer took the hr away. Somebody should’ve given Schaffer an Iron City bath.

        • seriously what is the ruling if a fan deliberately threw beer or a hot dog or popcorn on a player on the field? I’d think fan interference … but not sure.

          I somehow think that anything beyond just trying to catch the ball yourself, anything else a fan does, like perhaps grabbing at Shaffer’s glove, would be ruled interference….

  43. What’s the score guys…checking in

  44. Fort, please don’t throw to 2B unless you HAVE TO… please.

    • Wow, is Fort trying to help the Brewers or the Pirates?

      • Think of how bad Barajas was last year. We thought it was an upgrade when the Fort caught.

        • exactly ..progress is going from pining for the For playing to praying for the Fort to hit the pine….

          • If this Bucs team is going to compete seriously in the playoffs this season, it needs a stronger backup catcher than McKenry. I like him. He has given everything he’s got so far, but we may have something better to take his place at Indianapolis. Or elsewhere.

            • I agree, would be easy enough to say ” we want the Fort to play every day at Indy, continue to work on his throwing, footwork, get his timing at the plate down, etc…’ he’ll be back in September or before if we need him……

          • Very clever – and true

  45. Interesting… Roenicke managing like he’s given up… he doesn’t pinch run for the C Maldanado even though he pinchits C Lucroy…. odd.

  46. So, how are the Bucs gonna win this?

    2R HR by Cutch, Walker or Jones in the 8th?
    Tie game with 1 run and then win in extras?
    Solo shot in 8th to tie it, then Russell Martin pinch hit HR in bottom of 9th to win it?
    Small ball?

  47. Interesting, 2 inning save chance for Henderson

  48. Segura is regressing to a mess in the field.

  49. Cutch thinking HR makes me nervous…just a hit-…just a hit…

  50. Cutch! Yay!

    But he got thrown out at 2nd. Boo!

  51. It’s a tied game!!

  52. GREAT …clutch base hit… don’t mind being agressive trying to get into scoring position by Cutch….good play by Brewers to cut off and get him at 2nd….

  53. Cutch! Nice to see him come through with RISP!

  54. Rack that run up to Marte as well as Cutch. Most other runners would have been thrown out at the plate. The single was fielded on one hop in short left.

  55. McCutch Clutch, as Nyjer Morgan used to say.
    And on that note, I think I’m gonna look up how Ol’ Nyjer is doing over in Japan.

  56. Walker WOW!!!

    Great D!!!!!!

    • Segura was safe, actually

      • It was tie, and ties are supposed to go to the runner…. I’ve seen enough of those on the Bucco side, so I think we deserved that one.

      • I agree. The three replays show it. But, I suspect the Bucs are getting calls this year that they might not have gotten in the last 20. Go figure.

        In any case, the call should have gone the Bucs’ way if only because Walker made such an awesome play in the field.

        I don’t ever want to hear anyone moan on this blog again that Walker isn’t worth everything they pay him, or that there’s someone else in the system who’s better.

        He’s as much a part of the core in this team as anyone else.

        • He’s the PIttsburgh kid, a leader on the team, and productive major league 2Bman. He will need to either learn to hit lefties or go into a platoon mode ,but yes he is part of the core.

    • Sorry to be the t _ _ _ in the punch bowl guys, but ties do not go to the runner. The rule clearly states that the runner must beat the throw to be safe.

  57. Folks we are seeing a spectacular defensive series by our home grown second baseman.

  58. For your later viewing pleasure, happy to report that Tony Plush is doing just fine in Japan, after all.

    Meanwhile, back to the game at hand…

  59. Another outstanding job by this bullpen today!

  60. Seriously??? Jahay???

    • yes seriously… GI Jones at bats were terrible today and he ‘no hit lefties’.

      • I would still give him a chance…

        • understand, but leading off an inning, a speedy guy makes more sense… now what JayHey should have done, with Gonzo finishing his pitches somewhere around the 3B dugout, was push a bunt up 1B line and get on base…..

  61. so does gaby try his luck on shaeffer again????

  62. Darvish just beat the Reds, 3-2.

  63. Ugggghhh….come on guys…let’s end this now.

  64. FORT, prove us wrong, we’ve been badmouthing you all day… go Inge and end this….

  65. pinch run for Gaby??

  66. wow, if i were manager, i’d pinch run Jordy and pinchit Martin

  67. C’mon Jordy….

  68. walkoff grand slam for Inge, as he continues his redemption tour?

  69. Fort, Barmes, and Inge all in one game.
    If we win this today, we will win the WS. If we win with those three, anything can happen………..

  70. C’mon, wild pitch…

  71. *sigh*…..crap.

  72. We need a better bat coming off the bench! UGH!

  73. Inge you STINK!!!

  74. wow, 83 MPH changeup on 3-2 count … some guts by Gonzo there… good pitch….can’t really blame Inge for swinging as you have to be aggressive.

    • Sorry…disagree…Inge stinks…

      • My point wasn’t on stinkiness or not of Inge…it was on the pitch choice there… it was a ball, but can’t fault Inge for swinging….

    • He had to swing at that. He may stink, but he had to swing.

    • And just as I was going to petition for his HOF bust……….. ;)

    • That was a helluva good pitch. I doubt if Cutch or Martin would have made contact with that one. It broke about a foot and a half.

    • I was surprised we didn’t see Martin, too, but I assume it had something to do with not burning your last catcher.

      • Inge was correct to bat in that situation, if only because his record against that pitcher was off the charts. 2 HR in 5 AB. But my guess is thyat Clint was thinking bottom of the 10th for Martin if Inge doesn’t deliver.

        Brillitant to uise Grilli in the 10th in a tie game. His chance to even up his W-L record.

    • I agree. Inge can’t take that pitch with two strikes already. Gonzalez rolled the dice and got him to miss with a down-and-outer that would have lost the game for him IF Inge wasn’t forced to chase it.

  75. OK Let’s do it in 10.

  76. Balfour (now I know 4 A’s players) on in the 9th to close out the Redbirds…A’s 7-5, one out in the 9th.

    • A’s finish off the series win vs. the Cards…. 7-5. If…I mean WHEN Bucs win, they will be 2 games up on the “invincible” Cardinals…. and a bunch on the Reds…. and it may be double digits now on the wild card chasers….

    • A real under the radar name for the A’s is Josh Donaldson. Very good young third baseman.

  77. Geeez…we make this Brewer bullpen look like ours…

  78. Walker should always be the #2 hitter. Not Martin.

    • against RHP,s yep… and vs. lefties, Walker should hit 8th or not at all.

      • Walker’s work in the field is extraordinary, like that of Martin, Cutch and Starling (not to mention most of Pedro’s and Snider’s.) . If you have to PH for Walker in the late innings, fine. But the fielding superiority of the Bucs is, perhaps, the main reason they’re ahead of the Cardinals. Check the fielding and SB stats.

  79. Geeeeeebus….

  80. That at bat was Exhibit A-Z of what happens when Cutch thinks HRs… pull-happy and fairly weak swings. Pitcher never came close to giving him a pitch to pull…. Cutch has enough power to hit it out in RF…. when, when, when will he give in and stop trying to pull everything?

    I love Cutch, and I’m not into being “debby downer” and nitpicking things, but this to me is a bigger issue that he needs to address…similar to Pedro adjusting to changeups…. they are good players but they can be BETTER

  81. Serious question, why do so many Japanese players hit like they are playing Cricket, with running starts? Do they teach that there?

  82. Pedro still surprises me sometime with his bullet throws.

  83. Wow, Melancon is so good… if hitters are too aggressive and chase, it is all they can do to even get a piece of the ball….. best approach is what Aoki tried to do…let it get deep and go the other way… but even that is tough for them to barrel up….

  84. Ok…let’s end this NOW!

  85. Who is this Kintzler guy?? We make him look like Grilli…

  86. Just re-joined,so apologies if this is repetitive: I think Walker is playing 2B today like a champ.

  87. This smells a lot like the Reds game a couple of weeks ago…

  88. Watson has really hit his stride this month…

    • Was a great article today by DK about Ray Searage… and the effect he is having on this Pirates staff…. one thing I have confidence in now is the Pirates ability to find guys with strong arms and good stuff….and Searage’s ability to harness it….

      Watson is a great example….

      • Watson was drafted by DL in the 9th round.

        • Watson a great example of Searage making the most of the talent…. I wasn’t really making yet another FO post.. but to be clear, this FO is good at finding pitching… DL wasn’t as good at that I don’t think…but no matter, In Ray we Trust.

          • Me neither. Just adding a fact based on what you said. Trying to keep it objective. (Repost from below)

      • Tremendous column by DK. And though not mentioned, another exhibit A is Vin Mazzaro. ERA of 5.73 and a whip of 1.682 last year. No need to quote his stats this year. Ray Searage is truly the “White Wizard”.

      • Me neither. Just adding a fact based on what you said. Trying to keep it objective.

  89. It’s gratifying to see the entire bullpen involved in an extra inning shutout. Wilson is the last man and Martin is on the bench.

  90. 10 shutout innings by the league’s best bullpen today… let’s hope we can reward it now.

  91. Jeff Locke is warming up!

    • makes sense, with the offday coming, they can go with Gomez on Tuesday…and not affect the rotation

      • I think it’s a good move. Get through the next half inning, give Locke the ball and let him go until we can win it.

  92. This Kintzler guy has our number it appears…

  93. Tony Watson channeling Jason Kendall, no batting gloves…. decent swing…

  94. I blame the weather for this game…threw everything off stride…lol.

  95. WOW, 24 innings of at bats by both teams, NINE total hits. Yikes.

  96. Lets END this NOW!

  97. Wow…Watson is on fire…

  98. Clint said today, I think, that Watson has ‘closer’ ability… earlier this season he had some tough spots (though for Pirates vs. rest of the league, even using the phrase tough spots with this bullpen is a stretch)….

    Watson’s stuff is great.. PLUS fastball, some movement, and today I saw a very good change up….. he has more experience than Morris/Wilson, but the pen seems to be in good shape for the future also….

    • Most teams are lucky to be two deep at the back of the pen…we are four deep!

      • I STILL think they should pick up a this year’s version of the Broxton pickup by the Reds last year… to fortify the bullpen even more….. give Melancon a breather now and then, and get experienced bullpen arm to help the young guys if/when the going gets tough….

  99. Time to win.

  100. Please don’t let this go 19.


  102. YES! Marte with the double! Come on Walker – bring him 90 feet closer.

  103. Marte Partay??

  104. Marte leads off with a double!!!! Time to win it!

  105. Starling Marte proves the old saying correct……. you can’t teach speed.

  106. no bunt? wow, some on the blog can rejoice!

  107. How about this? CH not bunting!

  108. Just as good as a bunt

  109. Walker acting like a #2 hitter.

  110. Just like a bunt…

  111. i’d pinch hit Martin here… more likely to hit a sac fly….. but it does set up nicely for a SQUEEZE with jayhey??

  112. Come on Harrison….

  113. Roenicke doing the old Chuck Tanner, play 5 infielder ploy……

  114. I would run on the first pitch. First and third late yesterday and the Brewers didn’t even throw down.


  116. If they are bringing Gomez in from center field – then all Harrison needs to do is bloop it into Center and game over.

  117. Cutch steals.

  118. Pedro is on deck!

  119. WOW>>. 80 MPH on 3-2 count….. how can you be a hitter in today’s MLB? these pitchers never ever throw fastball when you expect it

  120. PEDRO think single… don’t need a HR….. but we’ll take it :)


  122. No vacancy Pedro….end this now!!

  123. Pedro faces the weirdest shift ever. Center fielder moves in to play third.

  124. ….crap

  125. *&^T*(&^%*&^%(*&^(*&()*&^*(%

  126. Well now, that stinks, part 2.

  127. Not a pitch he could drive on 2-0. Not smart!

  128. I’m sorry, but Pedro should not be swinging 2-0 at a pitch that he can’t put in the air…. need to greatly improve situational awareness across the board… Walk said it best… “try to pull it and it’s tougher to put in the air”….

  129. Unbelieveable….twice with the bases loaded today and we don’t get it done…

  130. Watson is a beast….three innings…

  131. Patience, gentlemen. Haven’t lost this thing as of yet.

  132. Methinks these five act Shakespearean dramas are a bit much. What say you?

  133. Gaby, Fort and Mercer can now be the hero…

  134. LOL…..Segura jumps the gun. PICKED OFF!!!!

  135. Pick, pick, pick off! Sorry long game.

  136. Thanks for the caught stealing. Now come one Gaby, Michael, or Jordy. One of you need to end this madness. Need to stay away from the 19 inning game really badly.

  137. Spy vs spy! That is the way to take advantage of them trying to take advantage of the Fort– pick em off.

  138. Rickey was overdue.

  139. Brewers been trying to give us runs all game. Pirates not buying.

  140. The Pirates sacrificed in the 9th against Seattle and Mercer got the 2 out basehit to win the game.

    McKenry doesn’t attempt to bunt the winning run to second?

  141. Gaby with a steal!

  142. WOW a stolen base by Gaby….. and the Fort isn’t catching for the Brewers either…

  143. 51 and counting……

  144. PIRATES WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  146. RAISE IT!!!! GABY SANCHEZ’ speed and baserunning does it… :)

  147. ….fear the Bones….

  148. YAY!!!

    Raise the Tired Jolly Hippo.

    Wont have any problems sleeping tonight. ;)

  149. hahaha a;sbwowoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ;fsadlgbkadgberq3rqg


  150. Exhibit B. Ballgame!!!!

  151. And…………………..


  152. Hand it to Msrtin, getting it after 8 hrs! I have trouble getting off the couch to grab a beer.

  153. Last man finally delivers the knockout. Awesome.

  154. Raise it. TEAM win! It’s been said before, but YA GOTTA BELIEVE!!!

  155. 3 STRAIGHT SWEEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  156. LOL @ the creme pie to Martin courtesy of AJ!

  157. how good is it to make those rotten Brewers wait 6 1/2 hours to get SWEPT back to Milwaukee….. how sweet it is!!!

    Take your free-swinging, funamentally challenged,bunch of slow pitch softball players, LAST PLACE sorry-ass team back to where it came from.

  158. When I saw Locke warming up in the bullpen I had the same thought to that game against Cincinnati when they showed Zagurski warming up, ‘Oh crap we have to win this ball game here’. Won both games and now Locke can make his scheduled start.

  159. Bucs pitchers yield 4 hits over 14 innings, including a long rain delay.


    Underline ___FOR___ REAL___

  160. Gabby is the unsung hero, with the SB. Should have been the hero, but for nice play earlier. He played a very solid game. This is a team in the best sense of the word.

  161. I’ve held on to “cautiously optimistic” all year. Okay, officially, I’m in.

    Qualifier – Not sold on Pedro being more than a couple of monster hot streaks, rather than a guy you can depend on daily. And not sold a move that doesn’t make sense (in the vein of Casey McGehee for Chad “You;re killin’ me” Qualls) will be made just to say we made a move.

    But for this team as I whole, I’m finally sold.

    • They need a RF. Not saying that they need to give up a top prospect for one, but they need someone better than Snider and Tabby out there. And Lambo or whatever it is in Indy isn’t it.

      Fortunately, it shouldn’t take much to improve upon a guy with a .645 OPS. Of course, the Bucs have needed that guy for years now without being able to find him.

      • True, they need more production in RF, but I’ll respond to that with this – At what cost?
        I’m not willing to sacrifice another x-number of losing seasons just for one good one. (See Tampa Rays not trading for Jason Bay – they made no move that year, and because they gave nothing up and rode that season out, they have stayed competitive in their division for 6 straight seasons.)

  162. Had you told me at the beginning of the year that the Bucs would be 51-30 at the halfway point, I would have laughed in your face.

    Had you told me that in the first half of the year, a full rotation’s worth of starters (AJ, Wandy, JMac, Liriano, Karstens) and then some (Morton) would spend time on the DL, my guess would have been closer to 30-51.

  163. Ho Hum.

    Getting easy.

  164. I watched every pitch and every run of this ball game from my vantage point overseas, rain delay and all via MLB-TV. It was a rewarding win against an inferior team.

    So, what’s the lesson here?

    Earlier this wek, the Bucs fielded a team without two of their position starters and they needed them at the end to get the win. Do you think they’ll sit Cutch and Martin if we make it to the WS? I don’t think so. But if we are going to make it to the WS, what will it take in the way of resting the key players during the regular season? Is it smart to rest a good man from time to time to keep him fit for August & September (never mind October)? Or does the resting do as much or more good as having him in the lineup for important games during the regular season? I dunno. One thing I know is that they sat Pedro for a week earlier this month and he came out of his enforced time off blastin the ball like never before.


    This line will be closed at the time of the first pitch of Tuesday’s game against the Phillies

    Max “wager” is 250 units on this special line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Second Half Pick ‘Em Line
    Total WINS by the Pirates in the Second Half of this season
    0 – 30 (TRIPLE ODDS)
    31 – 37 (EVEN ODDS)
    38 – 44 (EVEN ODDS)
    45 or More (DOUBLE ODDS)

    GOOD LUCK!!!

  166. 51!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    31 more to go, but 51 is nice.

  167. Just unreal to look at some of these numbers:

    51-30, 28-13 at PNC, 24-13 vs Central, 9-4 vs Milwaukee

    2 games up in Central, 10 games up for a playoff spot

    Today the bullpen throws 12 innings of shutout ball, does not allow a single walk led by Vin Mazzaro’s 44 pitch, five inning effort. Today was all men on deck for the victory, and Was that Gaby Sanchez with a hit against a RHP and key stolen base? Cutch with the big hit when team needed it, key contributions from everybody.

    9 straight wins, 6 sweeps this year, 3 consecutive

    The bandwagon is filling up now.

  168. I say this every time we play the Brewers:
    They lead the league in bone-head plays, and are have very poor fundamentals.

    Great win. Great…and long day at the ballpark!

    I gotta go dry out. (and get a drink!)

  169. Here are the up to date standings.

    CONGRATS to Dadtacklular for having the most points in the month of June
    CONGRATS to Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) for having the most points in the first half of this season.

    Please contact me at buccooverunder-at-gmail-dot-com in order to claim your prizes.

    Dadtackular ~ 1600
    blazer ~ 900
    Frankie ~ 850
    JUCOFan ~ 825
    bman ~ 810

    Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) ~ 1900
    bman ~ 1805
    Frankie ~ 1575
    JRay3 ~ 1550
    Dadtackular ~ 1500
    JUCOFan ~ 1300
    Pucknutz ~ 1200
    theplanisworking ~ 1150
    blazer ~ 1100
    tdb1977 ~ 1085
    Nate83 ~ 1050
    stickyweb ~ 900
    KJX ~ 750
    fellocolonial ~ 700
    Bill Born ~ 630
    Ermine ~ 600
    Keith ~ 600
    radio wave ~ 500
    RobertoForever ~ 490
    cherokee23 ~ 450
    EricBowser ~ 325
    Karen22 ~ 300
    JohninOshkosh ~ 210
    Boise Bucco ~ 200
    Evan ~ 200
    JoeyBats ~ 175
    TCB ~ 175
    Jason81 ~ 150
    PetroSteel ~ 100
    steelercrazy ~ 100
    Chico ~ 50
    Hal Smith ~ 50
    mlrgenuine ~ 50
    TJ ~ 50
    Arriba Wilver ~ 25
    tmp444 ~ 25
    pants-n-at ~ 0
    TK ~ 0
    Vette60 (Randy in RVA) ~ 0
    Ruffian706 ~ -40
    buggee ~ -50
    absolute59 ~ -100
    Brian ~ -100
    Dcpinpgh ~ -100
    DemonDachshund ~ -100
    John in WM ~ -100
    Kevin S ~ -100
    kr70 ~ -100
    Matt hoffman ~ -100
    pattonbb ~ -100
    JaxBuc ~ -140
    OZ ~ -150
    Dom ~ -175
    Lad9 ~ -200
    Ryan76 ~ -200
    Ghost ~ -250
    cosmo ~ -300
    Joey Mellons ~ -300
    cmat0829 ~ -350
    stuart66 ~ -400
    Brandie ~ -450
    Steve J. Smith ~ -500
    JMB ~ -800
    JD ~ -875
    Kevin ~ -1030
    Jandy ~ -1075
    Bizrow ~ -3600

    ***The Most Points for the end of JULY will win:***

    First Place at the end of the season will win:

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:

    Fourth Place at the end of the season will win:

    Fifth Place at the end of the season will win:

    • Newbie says all in on the 45 – give me 250 – actually think they will win 47-48 – the second half schedule look a bit easier…

      • hello, Newbie. Welcome to the Asylum :)

        If you post your hometown, Bizrow will add it to the list of Dejan’s Lunatics’ Asylum.

        We hope to see more of you here!

        • Midland, Pa – home of the best high school basketball team ever – the 1965 Leopards – coached by the original Coach K [Hank Kuzma] and led by the late great Norm Van Lier and Simmie Hill. They were greatly aided by me graduating in 1964 ;-)

  170. ESPN leads with the NBA. So not surprised.

  171. Nice win… well-deserved day off for the Bucs… if I’m Hurdle, I think I go ahead and give Gaby an extended run at starting at 1B with Jones-y in Right…. Snider was given a pretty good run, so pre ASB let’s see if Gaby can seize the job….. if he can, then the RF pick up can be a true platoon partner for Jones…. if he can’t we’ll need an everyday RF and let Jones/Gaby platoon at 1B.

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