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Final: Phillies 3, Pirates 1

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (51-30) vs. Philadelphia Phillies (39-44)

Starters: RHP Brandon Cumpton vs. RHP Jonathan Pettibone

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Russell Martin, C
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Garrett Jones, 1B
  5. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  6. Neil Walker, 2B
  7. Jordy Mercer, SS
  8. Travis Snider, RF
  9. Cumpton, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel and I are on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Karen22 says:

    LET’S GO, BUCS!!


  2. Bizrow says:

    A little different twist in this lineup, has Mercer batted 7th before?

  3. Mike says:

    2 right fielders – guessing Jones is at first..

  4. theplanisworking says:

    You beat me to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LETS GO HIPPOS !!!! ;)

  5. JAL says:

    Posted this late on the previous thread on bullpen sessions

    Bullpen session between starts is day 2 after start so Locke would have done that. Bullpen session goes about 14 minutes. Warming up for a game goes about 30 minutes. Also, pen session the pitchers only throws about 70% of game intensity while warmup gets the pitcher to game intensity. Very different

  6. Damon says:

    Snider 8th?

  7. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Don’t think so, but its a good spot with Snider in the lineup.

  8. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


    Thank you. Any idea how many pitches thrown?

  9. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I’m cool with that. Might get better pitch selection in front of the pitcher.

  10. Ghost says:

    By the way, how on earth did they ever fit a hippo into a test tube???

  11. Damon says:

    I’m not saying I’m against it, just that it says a lot about the Pirate RF situation when a lefty vs. righty bats 8th in the line up.

  12. Ghost says:

    Agreeing with all your arguments in this discussion. But beyond the 14 minutes for a bullpen session, wouldn’t there be some warm up for that too? In any event, Locke did both (warm up for game, and bull pen). I have no problem with team moving his start back 2 days.

  13. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, they didnt.
    It was a rhino.

    I am not a scientist, so, as usual, I have no clue. ;)

  14. theplanisworking says:

    Did you happen to hear how it went? Or is it closer to game time?

  15. PirateFaninGA says:

    So assuming that Cumpton goes back to Indy the moment the game is over and the Phillies have lefties the next two games, which position player comes up tomorrow? I didn’t think Tabata was ready, but that looks like the obvious choice based on the make-up of the 40 man.

  16. Ghost says:

    To NMR, from previous thread:
    I’m not even saying Cumpton will be flipped for anyone, let alone is he a Jeff Suppan. But neither was Jeff Suppan ‘Jeff Suppan,’ until he became JEFF SUPPAN. (Okay, just having some fun here.)
    But injuries and pennant races make all the girls look prettier at closing time.

  17. pattonbb says:

    Very nice. I like this one too..

  18. Nate83 says:

    I haven’t done the math and I don’t have a schedule in front of me but does any of this push Cole back so it will be his last start before the all star break. If so then they could send him back to Indy, reset the rotation after the all star break for him to be the 5th starter and then bring him back up after being down there for 10-12 days. It would reduce his innings and add days to his super 2 status.

  19. Ghost says:

    “It was a rhino.”
    OHHHH! Now I understand.

    Incidentally, I remember when my son was five and I gave him the “birds and bees” talk. He laughed hysterically.

  20. Ghost says:

    Maybe Milo was right after all, regarding the FO’s craftiness.

  21. theplanisworking says:

    Never understood how birds and bees procreated. ;)

  22. Milo Hamilton says:

    No. He was getting 2 starts, he’s still getting 2 starts.

  23. Milo Hamilton says:

    Watching Cole’s innings is a failed premise anyway.

  24. Milo Hamilton says:

    During heated bullpen sessions, I think.

  25. NMR says:

    +1 on the last line alone, haha

  26. NMR says:

    Frank Coonely tells Forbes that last Sunday was the Pirates largest walk-up ticket sale in franchise history.

    Morton clearly > Cole

  27. Ghost says:

    That’s some sexy imagery there, Milo.

  28. JAL says:

    about 60 in the bullpen session. Warmup different for each pitcher

  29. Naterosboro says:

    Just saw this on twitter:


    Farm System Update: Taillon has a 2.90 ERA and 81 strikeouts in 83 and a 2/3 innings in 15 starts in Altoona this season. #gettingcloser”

    Why is he not in Indianapolis? I said he should’ve moved up when Gerrit came up to Pittsburgh, and I still stick by that statement. He should be in Indianapolis, with the view to give him a September callup.

  30. JAL says:

    Before the pen session the pitchers spend about 25 minutes in a whirlpool then some some tossing in the outfield

  31. Naterosboro says:

    I don’t know why there’s so many people down on Charlie’s starts this year. Yes, the walks have been up, but his velocity is up, his curve seems to have become a strikeout pitch, and he’s still getting a ton of ground balls.

    Is it still Nate McLouth trade resentment?

    Why no hatred for Locke then.

    We all know Gorkys took his share of abuse.

    He still is.

  32. JAL says:

    Cole scheduled to start Friday against the Cubs

  33. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t want them to send him down but even though they could without Cole missing a start, doesn’t make me feel like they’re being crafty.

  34. NMR says:

    Poor command of the changeup.

  35. NMR says:

    Trust me, up until this post I thought I was the lone member of the Charlie Morton fan club.

    Guys just aren’t willing to separate pre and post 2011. Simple as that.

  36. Naterosboro says:

    Update from Rob Biertempfel on twitter:

    “@BiertempfelTrib 2m

    I’ve heard #Pirates prolly won’t announce any international signings today, but could have some cooking for later in week”

    Hot oven.

  37. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    CONGRATS to Dadtackular for having the most points in the month of June
    CONGRATS to Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) for having the most points in the first half of this season.

    Please contact me at buccooverunder-at-gmail-dot-com in order to claim your prizes.

    Looking for the current standings?

    Tuesday Game Line
    Total RUNS ALLOWED by Brandon Cumpton in tonight’s game
    Line is 3.5
    ****Please Note – This is total runs allowed NOT earned runs allowed****

    SPECIAL Second Half Pick ‘Em Line
    Max “wager” is 250 units on this special line ONLY.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.

    Total WINS by the Pirates in the Second Half of this season
    0 – 30 (TRIPLE ODDS)
    31 – 37 (EVEN ODDS)
    38 – 44 (EVEN ODDS)
    45 or More (DOUBLE ODDS)

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

  38. Naterosboro says:

    Searage will take care of that.

    He fixes all.

  39. theplanisworking says:

    Scary, not sexy!

  40. 21sthebest says:

    Just speculating here. Cole had 13, 13, and 12 starts at each level. Taillon had 23 starts in West Virginia, 23 in Bradenton, and 18 so far in Altoona.

  41. 21sthebest says:

    I have completely ignored his pre 2011 numbers since his mechanics were changed and he had some success with them.

  42. Dom says:

    It is reported that the pens traded away Pascal Dupuis to Torono for a second round pick and Nikolai Kulemin.

  43. Ghost says:

    I was mostly funnin’ there. I have no clue how the clock runs on these type of things and don’t pretend to know when and how the FO is being crafty. But the “procreating in the bullpen” imagery has been the worthwhile payoff for all of this back and forth.

  44. JHadar says:

    With the relatively young team and the farm system starting to yield a few crops, I think if Neal plays his cards any way but wrong at the deadline and over the winter, next year’s team may be even better.

    Don’t let anything happen to Mr. Searage though.

  45. Ghost says:

    Pitchers spend time together in the whirlpool and then (and I quote directly) “some some” tussling in the outfield…???
    Milo, over to you.

  46. Dom says:

    Never mind. That was just a rumor.

  47. cmat0829 says:

    100 under

  48. Karen22 says:

    50 on the UNDER, Playoffs.

  49. Ghost says:

    Heartily agreed. Both about Mr. Searage, and about the chances of a nice score at the trade deadline. It’s always been a buyer’s market, and we’ve finally become buyers. If Cool Hand Neil just plays his hand right.

  50. Dom says:

    100 Over.

    250 on 38-44.


  51. cmat0829 says:

    Read that, thought the article said Sunday was the ‘single largest day in terms of ticket sales’…those don’t all have to be ‘walk-up sales’, those could be for future dates I’d think.

    The best part of the article is that in terms of tickets sold, the Bucs are 10% or so ahead of last year’s total tickets sold already, and project to have well over 2M in attendance, likely 2nd highest to first season in PNC which was 2.4M.

    I would expect sales to continue to increase and if the Bucs are still doing well, I should say WHEN, the September gates should all get big boosts year to year.

  52. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  53. Nate83 says:

    250 on 45 or more wins second half of the year. Thanks.

  54. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Thank you. Of course, that’s more of a feel or their preference.

  55. cmat0829 says:

    I also agree that folks are too ‘down’ on Charlie… there is “STUFF” there, good velocity, good movement… he is just getting his legs underneath him after the surgery/rehab/long layoff… he has the potential to be a solid part of the rotation in 2014 and beyond…..

  56. Vette60 says:

    Thanks as always…

    For today’s line, Kumpton is rockin’ – 50 on the UNDER.

    For the Special 2nd Half Pick’em line – Buccos continue to soar – 45 or more wins – 250 on it please!

    Take care and enjoy the game.

    Randy in RVA.

  57. Milo Hamilton says:

    I have one but it’s not printable. :)

  58. theplanisworking says:

    Frank Coonelly speaks.
    Anyone who believes him, well………….

    I would trust another source, like my dead dog more.
    Just sayin’

  59. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I’m a CM fan. Comes back from TJ and throws 95?

    Yea I’m good with that.

    Last outing was only 2 innings though. Can’t have those.

    Ha ha, or anymore rain delays.

  60. Milo Hamilton says:

    Two good months.

  61. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Could be relevant. Cole didn’t need as many starts coming from a top notch college program. (Who just won the college WS)

  62. Frankie says:

    Give me 50 on the under


  63. JaxBuc says:

    Please sir, may I have 40 Cumptons on the UNDER?

  64. TCB says:

    100 on the Over. Afraid that the Phil’s lefties will give Cumpton a rough time.

    250 on 38-44.

  65. 21sthebest says:


  66. Naterosboro says:

    Speaking of which, when do they start construction on expansion?

    Only 38,000 or so seats is killing them at the box office.

  67. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    100 on the UNDER

    “CONGRATS to Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) for having the most points in the first half of this season.”


  68. Frankie says:

    250 on the 45 or more


  69. War Horse says:

    100 bubble gum wrappers on the Cumpton UNDER line, please.

  70. Naterosboro says:

    Thats some decent detective work there 21s. I like your inferring. Too bad it doesn’t jive with my idea on how the organization should treat their prospects. If they can play, they can play. Move them along as quickly as possible and get them to the big team.

  71. Ghost says:

    Morton is like Tabby — both fairly promising but both need to just start getting it done. Albeit, Morton gets a few more ticks of the clock due to coming off last year’s TJ surgery.

  72. 21sthebest says:


    Who just won the World Series without him and Bauer. (Fixed that for you. :-) )

  73. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I agree Searage is awesome, but I dont want our top prospect called up for the MLB pitching coach to fix.

    His pitches need to be there, Searage can do his tweeking, but he needs to be ready first.

  74. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    You are welcome.
    Shoot me an email so I can get your prize sent out to ya.

  75. Milo Hamilton says:

    From 24/7:

    Hurdle says either Locke or Gomez will pitch tomorrow. Cole will still pitch on Thursday. Once again, the front office has absolutely nothing to do with these decisions. :)

  76. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    YOU GOT IT!!!

  77. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I was actually waiting for that……..I do realize they won it without those guys, but hard to argue that UCLA isn’t/wasn’t a top notch program with or without those guys.

  78. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I get a prize!!!!!

    Bragging rights always works for me.

    And how exactly do I send you an email?

  79. Ghost says:

    The single best thing about this season had been that FC was nowhere to be seen. Now I feel like it’s that scene at the racetrack in “A Bronx Tale” where Eddie Mush shows up and bets on a horse, destroying the chances for everyone that this horse will win.
    Oh well, Pirates fans. At least we have next year…

  80. NMR says:

    Couldn’t agree more.

    The Major Leagues are no place for a rookie to learn a pitch.

  81. cmat0829 says:

    Cole Mania lives :)

  82. JHadar says:

    What I like about this team is that right now we have either rising stars or journeymen at every position and the bench is adequate. Without the spectacular pitching, we would probably be holding our breath and hoping to break 81 at the end of the season.

    Even if AJ retires and we lose Wandy at the end of the season the pitching is not going to be a problem — except of course, all those guys are pitchers and their performance can vary greatly not only from game to game, but from season to season — but we’ll assume that there’s enough talent there to adjust for that.

    With the team constructed the way it is and the ability to actually trade pitching and/or prospects, we can cherry pick at the trade deadline and look for upgrades in the infield, outfield, catcher and bench — wherever the right guy happens to be. Basically every position cab be upgraded — although I would assume that the younger talent (Cutch, Marte, and probably Alvarez and Walker, would require a huge premium.

  83. tdb1977 says:

    100 on the Over for the line tonight. Already put my bid in for the wins for the second half. Getting ready to head to the old ball park for an exciting game tonight with the cross state Phillies.

  84. Dave G says:

    Probably when the season ticket waiting list grows to about 10,000.

    How many are on it right now?

  85. Thundercrack says:

    It will kill them when they fill 38000 Monday-Thursday

  86. Ghost says:

    And now I’m out until later tonight. Here’s to another game ending with the raising of the Jolly Hippo!

  87. cmat0829 says:

    Not a FC fan, but seems to me it is easy enough for Forbes to double source the data about ticket sales…..

  88. NMR says:

    I’m just waiting for him and Bob to come out from hiding now that the team is winning.

    Where’s that kid with the “I HEART NUTTING” sign?

  89. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Pirates bumper sticker to whomever finishes in forst place at the end of the 1st half.

    That would be you sir.


  90. 21sthebest says:

    Nate, that might be as quickly as possible in their eyes. Two years for Cole seems reasonable to me.

  91. Playoffs by 2012 says:


  92. cmat0829 says:

    38 isnt killing them at the box office, their prices are. 38 is the right capacity, ticket prices need to rise, of course, only after the team’s performance justifies it…. Fenway seats less I think and the Sox generate a lot of box office… b/c of ticket prices.

  93. theplanisworking says:

    With Zagurski at the Golden Corral. ;)

  94. NMR says:

    How’s that working for Cole?

  95. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    ENJOY the game!!!

  96. Naterosboro says:

    Remember this from DK’s recent column from Jared Hughes:

    “Wait ’til you get to Searage” or something to that effect?

    It’s an organizational problem.

  97. cmat0829 says:

    Got it Milo, so what should the Pirates do with Morton?

    1. DFA the bum, two good months and good riddance.
    2. Keep him in the rotation and see what he can do, but short leash…one bad start and he’s DFA’d.
    3. Let him start at least until ASB or Trade Deadline…if he’s at least a decent 5 starter he stays in rotation.
    4. Trade him in a package deal, sponsored by Progresso.

    I get the opinions just struggle sometime with what the conclusions should be.

  98. Naterosboro says:

    I’d say he’s doing pretty well. Maybe a strike out or 2 more, but it’s not like the kid has been blown away since called up.

    Has pretty much looked as he was billed.

  99. cmat0829 says:

    Cole was a college pitcher when drafted, taillon came directly from high school. Zero reason to ‘rush’ the development, every reason to make sure Jameson is ready to plug right into upper part of rotation when he arrives.

  100. Naterosboro says:

    Truth. And I have no issue w/ how they’ve handled Cole. But I think they may be treating Jameson with kid gloves a little bit.

  101. theplanisworking says:

    Mr. Playoffs……………

    I will take 100 Hippos on the UNDER for tonights line.

    I will also take 250 oversized Hippos on the 38-44 wins for the second half wager. Getting to 95 wins in the Central this year will be tough.

    Thank you for all you do.

    Hippo out. :)

  102. Reading says:

    Tennessee also won the National Championship after Manning left.

  103. Milo Hamilton says:

    If he’s one of your 5 best, pitch him. Why do you guys need to make things so complicated ?

  104. theplanisworking says:

    bring back a win against the Philthys.

  105. theplanisworking says:

    This is what happens coming off “heated bullpen sessions”.

  106. Bizrow says:

    Playoffs, its a new month

    100 on the over

    But Bucs still win

    Beat Em Bucs

    Go like 60

    Thanks, Playoffs

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  108. Milo Hamilton says:

    Limited capacity will create demand. Economics 101.

  109. Lad9 says:

    100 on the under please. Thanks Playoffs. Go Buccos!

  110. bman says:


    I’ll take 50 on the OVER

  111. theplanisworking says:

    Thank You for this.

  112. Jim S. says:

    Sometimes, I think CH is just messing with us here on this blog when he comes up with all the creative lineups. Yes, I think we are that important.

    No, I don’t actually think we are that important.

    I don’t know what to make of his lineups. Some would say he needs to let guys settle into a specific spot a bit more. I sort of like that he is asking guys to be versatile. I don’t know how much different the mindset is from spot to spot at the big league level. CH is certainly open to new things strategically this year.

  113. Jim S. says:

    Or, worse if they decide to pitch around him for that reason. You need to have a guy there that knows when a walk is a good thing. I think Snider is up to that. Barmes certainly isn’t.

  114. Bob Hasis says:

    There was some mention that they intended on having “very few walk up sales” on game day, when the stadium was being planned – say no more than 2000 – if my memory is accurate.

    They wanted you to have your ticket in advance – and minimum spur of the moment purchases.

    Econ. 101

  115. Arriba Wilver says:


  116. Matt hoffman says:

    100 on the over please.

  117. Jim S. says:

    I agree, and I would say less pitches needed the warmer the weather.

  118. Jim S. says:

    But, if he gets pushed to Wrigley, doesn’t that sort of mean they are interested in more than just immediate money, as some have suggested?

  119. Jim S. says:

    Very funny, Ghost.

  120. Dadtackular says:

    100 heated bullpen sessions on the under

  121. Jim S. says:

    Gorkys provided his share of abuse as well … while at the plate.

  122. Dadtackular says:

    @playoffs: Did you get my email?

  123. Jim S. says:


  124. Jim S. says:

    Thank you, oh voice of reason.

  125. Jim S. says:

    Perfect analogy! Inspired!

  126. Jim S. says:

    Exactly. Searage’s role is more Dr Phil-ish. Not that he doesn’t know how to teach, but that is more for the minors.

  127. Bizrow says:

    Most welcome, Roger, lets see if we can get some signups

  128. cherokee23 says:

    100 under

  129. stickyweb says:

    I’ll take 100 on the UNDER tonight and 250 on the 45 OR MORE line for 2nd half. Thanks.

  130. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Some guy named Tee Martin won it for him.

  131. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Nice…email on the way.

  132. blazer says:

    In keeping the low scoring games coming I’ll take 100 on the under for tonight please.

  133. Irish says:

    50 on the under, Thanks!

  134. blazer says:

    CBSSports reporting Penguins/Letang have completed the deal. Any word from Pittsburgh sports channels from you home folks?

  135. Milo Hamilton says:

    Cheapest seat on Stubhub for Thursday’s game is $43.69 – for standing room only. Box seats for as much as $200.

  136. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    FC said that last year and took a huge bashing for saying that….

  137. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yes. Rob Rossi from the Trib says 8 years / $58 million.

  138. blazer says:

    Thanks Milo!

  139. Bizrow says:

    Pens website has it posted too, per facebook

  140. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Starting to sound like a Giants game.

  141. pattonbb says:

    100 on the UNDER

  142. theplanisworking says:

    Possible trade targets for the Bucs, according to…………..

  143. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Is this a good deal?

  144. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    NO way on Either, unless the Dodgers pick up a TON of salary…

  145. theplanisworking says:

    Even then, I wouldnt want him.

  146. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    And looks like Willingham might’ve torn something with a “M” and ends with a cus

  147. Stuart says:

    Playoffs, please give me 100 sun dollars on the under for tonight, and a full 250 cruzieros on the 38 to 44 line for wins in the second half.

    BTW for clarification does “second half” mean all of the games after 81?


  148. theplanisworking says:

    Midget Circus??? ;)

  149. theplanisworking says:



    =============== A T T E N T I O N ==============


    Welcome to Dejan’s Lunatic Asylum.

    For all newcomers……….. regular contributor Bizrow keeps a running log of locations that we are all from. We arent trying to “out” you, or your right to privacy……… we would just like to know how far and wide the Lunatics come from. It is an interesting diversion from the ordinary, and kind of cool seeing all the states/countries reperesented.

    If you havent already done so, please give a shout-out as to where you are from. Currently there are 368 cities, 46 states, 20 countries, and 2 planets listed. :)

    Please dip your toes into the water, and let us know how much reach we get here.

    As an added bonus, you get your own personal trip to the zoo and see a real, live Hippo. ;)

  150. theplanisworking says:

    See below, Biz…..

  151. Jason81 says:

    100 birthday cakes on the UNDER, please!

  152. Arriba Wilver says:

    50 on the UNDER, please.

    250 on 38-44

    Thanks, Playoffs.

  153. Arriba Wilver says:

    Good thing DK got his Attendance column in early. :-)

  154. Milo Hamilton says:

    It’s that demand we were talking about.

  155. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jeff Locke will pitch tomorrow. Gerrit Cole on Thursday. Jeanmar Gomez will be in the bullpen. Vin Mazzaro needs some time because he pitched 5 innings in an actual baseball game on Sunday.

  156. Dave G says:


    I don’t see ‘The Zoo’ among the locations.

    But I do see DuBois twice.

  157. theplanisworking says:

    I reside at Hippo’s Pond. ;)

  158. Milo Hamilton says:

    Love the avatar Dave. I’m in favor of its return.

  159. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jerry Meals at it again. Costs Cumpton 7 pitches.

  160. Dave G says:

    Marte just stole first base.

  161. Dave G says:

    Found my niche!

  162. Arriba Wilver says:

    Is that Wanny in the seats behind home plate?

  163. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yes it is. The special teams coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs.

  164. Dave G says:

    I realize that Marte was out on a hit-and-run, but…

    It makes me wonder how many runners (and, therefore runs) have been erased by poor baserunning this season.

    Could that be why the ratio of runs scored to runs given up is curiously low for such a winning record?

  165. Milo Hamilton says:

    Snider obviously in there for his bat. Sorry.

  166. JRay3 says:

    The importance of defense shows both sides on that hit by Brown, first a misplaced ball by Snider turns single into double, but than great quick replay hitying cutoff and laser to third catches runner attempting to take extra base.

  167. JRay3 says:

    That is quick relay, hitting cutoff man and pinpoint throw to third to catch runner.

  168. bdhumbert says:

    Is Vin Mazzaro the unsung hero of the year – what he did Sunday was AWESOME

  169. bdhumbert says:

    I have said it before – I really like Travis – he is a great story and by all accounts a very nice guy and a good teammate – but we can do better in right field – and will need to do so if we are going to get into the playoffs.

  170. pattonbb says:

    Jerry Meals is horrible.

  171. pattonbb says:

    MLB umpire Brian Runge has been dismissed for what is believed to be the first known failed drug test among umps.

    Jerry Meals should pee in a bottle tonight. Might explain a lot of things.

  172. Milo Hamilton says:

    And he’s a third generation MLB umpire. That’s a big story.

  173. Thundercrack says:

    Started listening during the top of the 3rd.

    Nevrett is already completely on my nerves.

    Enough with the numbers, stats, and stupid trivia!!

  174. Milo Hamilton says:

    With the exception of 1998, a Runge has been umpiring in the big leagues since 1954.

  175. Milo Hamilton says:

    Garrett Jones is hitting .226 since May 1st with 17 RBI. Bad. Very bad.

  176. Dave G says:

    Must have gone to the John Sanders School of Broadcasting

  177. Reading says:

    Twice Jones has prevented Alvarez from getting up with guys on base. Might be time to flip flop them in the order.

  178. Milo Hamilton says:

    Pedro is 0 for his last 10. It happens fast the other way too.

  179. JRay3 says:

    Just when it appears the SS problem has been rectified, RF and 1B when a RHP is throwing rears its ugly head.

  180. Milo Hamilton says:

    … with 7 strikeouts.

  181. JRay3 says:

    Wow just noticed how quickly and quietly Cumpton has come up in a spot start and breezed his way into fifth. Who saw him making a third quality outing this season? He has shown to be quite effective in a pinch.

  182. Reading says:

    He might be inspired with guys in scoring position. But, in any event, this is shaping up into a 1-0 “thriller.”

  183. JRay3 says:

    Didn’t need to pour salt in the wound did you? 0-10 was impactful enough ha.

  184. Keith says:

    Cumpton is really good, guys. He needs a longer look now that Wandy won’t return. Keep him up (well, on his rotation turn, anyway) until AJ is back.

  185. Keith says:

    These aren’t just quality starts. He’s not giving up runs or walks, and he’s pitching efficiently.

  186. florida steeler says:


  187. Milo Hamilton says:

    I just love how people never expect it to go back the other way with him. Whichever way that is.He’s gonna slump, it’s gonna be long & it’s gonna be ugly. Then, he’ll go nuts again. There’s a track record.

  188. Dave G says:

    Out of town:

    Reds 1, Giants 0, top of 5th

    Cards at Angels, 10:05 start

  189. Parrothead01 says:

    Boy, jones and Snider sure aren’t bringing much to the team right now. Might be a good thing we face lefties the next two days. Keep them out of the lineup.

  190. Dave G says:

    Mercer looking sharp with the ‘D’

    Watching him mature before our eyes.

  191. Dave G says:

    Cumpton seems to be tiring.

  192. theplanisworking says:

    Come on, Clint, he isnt getting it done……..

  193. Milo Hamilton says:

    Three is plenty.

  194. theplanisworking says:

    Good job turning it over to the bullpen.
    Need the bats to awaken…………………

  195. pattonbb says:

    Cumpton’s serving up softballs right now. If he wants to be a legitimate 5th starter, he has to get through the 6th inning one of these days.

  196. Patrick(ri) says:

    At least one too many batters and perhaps two. Seemed pretty obvious

  197. pattonbb says:

    I like the guy, but if he tires like that at 75 pitches, he need more work in Indy.

  198. Dave G says:

    Ya call the guy up for a spot start, you get 5 great innings, and then you leave him in too long when he obviously starts struggling.

  199. Patrick(ri) says:

    Agree. I think 5 scoreless was a real plus for a rookie against thi lineup (aging, but still scary).

    Bet CM won’t wait for 3 runs.

  200. Dave G says:

    So now Pettibone starts to struggle and the coach hits the mound to buy time for his bullpen.

    That’s how you do it.

  201. Milo Hamilton says:

    6 no hit innings for Homer Bailey.

  202. theplanisworking says:

    Thats a start! ……………

  203. Dave G says:

    GI Jones bomb to center field! Bucs on the board!

  204. Milo Hamilton says:

    6.39 road ERA for Pettibone.

  205. Bob Hasis says:

    Timing in life is so crucial – when dancing, having sex and which at bat you decide to homer

  206. pattonbb says:

    CM is managing for his job.

    Cumpton had another promising start, just ran into a wall around pitch #75. I can’t blame Hurdle for giving him a chance to get out of the inning. Bats have to do their job now.

  207. florida steeler says:

    Neal Walker has got to stop batting right handed!!!!

  208. theplanisworking says:

    You CANNOT afford baserunning gaffes like that, Jordy!


  209. Reading says:


  210. Thundercrack says:

    Who was saying that throws from the outfield were always terrible?

  211. cmat0829 says:

    Nothing wrong with that, he was aggressive, to get the offense going…. took a perfect throw to get him

  212. florida steeler says:

    Unfortunately, happens more than once.

  213. 21sthebest says:


  214. cmat0829 says:

    am i mistaken or did neil take a stretch of only hitting lefthanded once earlier in his career? or maybe i was just dreaming…

  215. theplanisworking says:

    I disagree.
    Down 2, you dont put yourself in a position to be thrown out, perfect throw or not.

  216. Reading says:

    Dude gets hammered and nothing to show for it. Maybe they can stop wearing the black softball shirts now, and get back to real unis.

  217. cmat0829 says:

    with the way this offfense has been going (ZZZZZZ), I give benefit of the doubt to aggressive baserunning. It turned out to be wrong but I don’t call this a ‘gaffe’ just an aggressive play that didn’t work out.

  218. Milo Hamilton says:

    7 no hit innings for Homer Bailey.

  219. florida steeler says:

    Ha-ha, good one. These uni’s are ALMOST AS BAD as the Steelers throwback jail uniforms.

  220. War Horse says:

    Does anyone remember the trigger for Pedro to bat his way out of the last slump? It was being left on the bench for three straight games while Inge played third, wasn’t it?

  221. theplanisworking says:

    If we were tied, I agree 100%. Down 2 runs, no.

    Just gonna have to agree to disagree here.

  222. cmat0829 says:

    I think this year’s NO SOUP should be given out to bloggers that suggest that Alvarez be benched after 3 games right after he pretty much carried the offense for a month. I knew it was going to happen just didn’t think so soon. NO SOUP!

  223. florida steeler says:

    Philly announcers are being very complimentary toward the Pirates. They are also not scared to death to criticize the Phils when they make a bonehead play–not like our Pirate PR Department announcers.

  224. theplanisworking says:

    I feel on some days like throwing Pedro into the Allegheny.
    Other days, I feel like nominating him for mayor.

    We are stuck with him, thru good and bad.
    Just have to limit the bad.

    And, I will have all the soup I want, its good for you. ;)

  225. florida steeler says:

    You said it perfectly.

  226. War Horse says:

    Jerry Meals is from hunger.

  227. cmat0829 says:


  228. cmat0829 says:

    would you rather have ryan howard?

  229. cmat0829 says:

    CUTCH… lace this into right center field….

  230. pattonbb says:

    Really…a NO HITTER? Boy, a NO HITTER might get the reds motivated. Of course, if Homer loses his NO HITTER, they might just fold. Didn’t Homer toss the last NO HITTER? Or was the last NO HITTER thrown by someone else.


  231. cmat0829 says:

    HAS to be better umpires in AAA or college, doesn’t there? How much do umps need to suck before they are sacked? oh, forgot, they are protected by their union….

  232. theplanisworking says:

    why does having Jerry Meals behind the plate scare me so much in this game?

  233. pattonbb says:

    Until they fail multiple drug tests.

  234. cmat0829 says:

    Cutch was going for it…. swung way too hard… he could’ve homered with half the swing….

  235. pattonbb says:

    When was the last time Cutch was Clutch?

  236. theplanisworking says:


  237. cmat0829 says:

    20/20 FORESIGHT question… do you let Jones hit vs. Bastardo or pinch hit? (I guess the problem is Inge, Barmes and Fort are all you have on the bench)…UMMM, never mind.

  238. War Horse says:

    No one suggested that Pedro be benched at this stage. It has only been three days. I have been nehind him since he came up 3 yrs ago. But the man is woefully inconsistent.

  239. theplanisworking says:

    If it was football season, I would punt.

  240. Reading says:

    Becoming disgruntled. Nothing will fall. At ‘em balls. Phils making plays out of their

  241. Reading says:

    Inge? Come on Man!!

  242. Dave G says:

    Inge pinch hitting for Jones?


  243. Bob Hasis says:

    This move is for all of you CH idolizers and Inge haters

  244. Keith says:


  245. florida steeler says:

    And Walker, and Snider, and Garrett.

  246. Dave G says:

    Inge pinch hitting for Jones?


  247. Reading says:

    Rally. What rally??

  248. cmat0829 says:

    but Cutch is the one on the cover of the video game

  249. Milo Hamilton says:

    8 no hit innings for Homer Bailey.

  250. Dave G says:

    hit by pitch
    hit by pitch
    hit by pitch

  251. Reading says:

    Better than a DP.

  252. cmat0829 says:

    I agree… have ZERO confidence in letting Jones hit vs. a lefty… guess if I had to, probably would’ve given Fort a try vs. Inge…. but I do think I’d pinch hit

  253. cmat0829 says:

    Bastardo pretty much pitched around Pedro there…. tells you what the Phils think of Neil’s RH ability…. prove em wrong NEIL

  254. Milo Hamilton says:

    This Walker AB brought to you by …florida steeler !

  255. cmat0829 says:

    way to go NEIL!! and SMART holding Martin there, Brown can T H R O W

  256. Milo Hamilton says:

    OMG he got a hit.

  257. cmat0829 says:

    Who’s managing the Phils, Tony LaRussa from afar???

  258. Patrick(ri) says:

    My dark cynical side wonders if the Pirates are especially weak with bases laded, or is that just selective perception?

  259. theplanisworking says:

    The surprise you exhibit is priceless, Milo.

  260. Patrick(ri) says:


  261. theplanisworking says:


  262. Dave G says:

    Still got a shot.

    Snider, pinch hitter, then Marte lead off ninth.

  263. Milo Hamilton says:

    NO HITTER #2 for Homer Bailey.

  264. Dave G says:

    Bailey one out away

  265. Dave G says:

    NICE pickoff

  266. theplanisworking says:

    Is this the first time a pitcher had no-hitters in succession over 2 seasons?

    Meaning, he had the last no-hitter in MLB last season, first one this year.

  267. Dave G says:

    ^ See above!

  268. Patrick(ri) says:

    The Reds are starting to get serious.

  269. Keith says:

    Yeah, and who exactly is going to pinch hit? Barmes, that’s who. Unless you’d rather see McKenry. I mean, THREE useless bench players at a time? That’s the biggest hole on this time, if you ask me. And getting a RF would solve it, since Snider would then be a PH.

  270. JRay3 says:

    Wow, always thought he was a decent pitcher, but never felt he was that impressive.

  271. theplanisworking says:

    They are 4-6 in their last 10………………….

  272. JRay3 says:

    They better after ending June losing 7 of their last 9 in the month. Tough decision to go into those kind of ruts and not get out of them.

  273. Milo Hamilton says:

    I missed the one last year (thank God), so this was all new to me.

  274. JRay3 says:

    Boy what Martin has meant to this team, with his arm, his framing, his handling of pitchers and his knack for coming up with a big hit.

  275. florida steeler says:

    Give all of us a break Milo. Neil has a .288 slugging percentage batting right handed. He has no business batting right handed. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. Coaches, that know far more than you, have asked him to stick with the left handed batting and he refuses.

  276. Milo Hamilton says:

    And the Giants stink right now.

  277. cosmo says:

    WOW, Most pitchers would love to pitch 1. Now he’s got 2.

  278. Milo Hamilton says:

    Remember how they kept trying to sell us on how all those steals were the pitchers fault ?

  279. Patrick(ri) says:

    2 hits and 1 run in last 18 innings against Reds.

  280. pattonbb says:

    you beat me to it.

  281. Patrick(ri) says:

    2 bloops and a blast, as someone used to say.

  282. Milo Hamilton says:


  283. Dave G says:

    Streak was due to end.

    Move on!

  284. JRay3 says:

    No shame in first loss in ten games, had chances just never got the big hit tonight. Get back at it tomorrow with Locke taking the bump.

    Time to root the red hot Angels on tonight.

  285. cmat0829 says:

    I hadn’t heard that the coaches have asked Neil to hit left handed vs. lefties.. this coaching staff? I would think Neil has the type of swing and approach that he’d do ok as a lefty… he wouldn’t be overmatched like Jones….

    Maybe what will encourage Neil to change is having him ride the pine vs. LHPs… play Mercer at 2B and Barmes at SS….

  286. cmat0829 says:

    FIVE runs in 3 games, at home against hittable starting pitchers… and the Pirates somehow are 2-1 in those games… and they had many chances to breakthrough and win the 3rd. Pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching…can’t say it enough.

    Cumpton did fine, wasn’t the reason why we lost the game, kinda glad they didn’t waste a Locke start with this lack of offense….

  287. cmat0829 says:

    Over/under for first “Chicken Little” ….here comes the collapse post…. 10 minutes?

  288. theplanisworking says:

    OH MY GOD!!!
    WE’RE DOOMED!!!!


    I just did this cmat, for fun, and to respond to your silly post about chicken littles.
    I have never understood the need to attack people for their level of fandom. Never.

    Oh, and I waited til the 10 minutes were up. ;)

    Enjoy your night.

  289. theplanisworking says:

    Did anyone hear about AJ’s bullpen session?

  290. Arriba Wilver says:

    They said they would re-evaluate him tomorrow. Sounded like it went OK. Practiced covering first too to see how the leg reacted. Did a bullpen and a simulated game of something like 45-50 pitches.

  291. theplanisworking says:

    Thanks AW. I heard nothing, but was out for stretches at a time.
    Hope he returns soon.

  292. tomp says:

    They better work on getting some guys on the bench that can actually hit the ball, when the team needs them to.

    Brandon Inge, is not that guy, and the sooner the FO realizes this fact, the better the Pirates will be.

    This is not the bench of a playoff team, veteran leadership , or not.

    This guy is as useful as DK at the “ask Huntington whatever question you want ” gathering.
    Make a move for Shierholz, Aoki, or bring back Presley.
    Brandon Inge should not be an important bench player , and will never be, for a team that is fighting for a division/playoff spot.

  293. Jandy says:

    Perfect, Hippo, perfect :)

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