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Final: Pirates 6, Nationals 5

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (57-39) vs. Washington Nationals (48-50)

Starters: RHP Charlie Morton vs. RHP Dan Haren

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: Nationals Park, Washington, D.C.

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Jordy Mercer, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  5. Russell Martin, C
  6. Garrett Jones, RF
  7. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Morton, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel is on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.

365 Comments

  1. MULTI LINE MONDAY!!!

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.

    NEW PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME & ENCOURAGED!!!

    Line #1
    Total HOME-RUNS HIT by Pirates Hitters in tonight’s game
    Line is 1.5

    Line #2
    Total HITS + WALKS ALLOWED by Charlie Morton in tonight’s game
    Line is 8.5

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

  2. Looks like the Tabata experiment is over.

  3. Where’s Walker?

  4. Interesting article on Astros GM Jeff Luhnow and his rebuilding plan:

    http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/7/22/4544398/the-luhnow-process-k-bb-ratio?ref=fangraphs

    Long, numbery story short, he believes that a prospects plate discipline is a good indicator of their future success as a hitter, so he went out and drafted guys that fit that mold. Unsurprisingly, the Astros now have minor league teams that lead their leagues in K:BB ratio.

    What a concept.

    • He might be on to something there.
      – J. Votto

    • Also explains Robbie Grossman.

      • Great point.

        I think its interesting because it seems to be opposite of Huntington’s strategy of focusing on guys with tools and upside, even though they have a noted lack of discipline.

        Hard for one to argue that Huntington has been successful, but its also obviously too early to tell if Luhnow’s approach will yield better results or guys like Grossman who have all the discipline in the world, but maybe not the hit tool needed to beat big league pitching.

    • Boy would he hate Starlin Marte

    • A lot of people say Jeff Luhnow is responsible for much of the Cardinal’s good fortune. He was responsible for building their baseball academy in the Dominican Republic and really expanding their presence in Latin America. Several of their top prospects come from that area of the world now.

    • Mark Madden. What a credible source.

      Could you see me rolling my eyes as I said that.

      His premise is OK. That you have to take your chances when you get them. And that trying to project prospects is a crap shoot and that it isn’t like the Pirates minor league system as it is comprised maps out years and years of success an possibly only pieces of a whole.

      But his use of Littlefields drafts and Pirates drafts alone is laughable when using it in terms of how draft calsses don’t pan out. Sample size of one team with one lousy GM.

      Sometimes I want them to make a wholesale move to go for it. Then I settle on a more conservative approach. With all that said though, having Taillon and Polanco be “untouchable” just means that by the time they get here, the backbone of the roster as it is comprised today won’t be here and they may just be 2 stand out young players on a mediocre or lousy team.

      A team like the Pirates will never be a perrenial power house. Most of the time they will scuffle right around .500 even when the ship rights itself. you can always draft a new Polanco or Taillon or Heredia and have them be 2 to 3 years away from being the backbone of your next contender. grow a team, take a stab at glory, and grow another one. This can be done without being as putrid as the Marlins currently are.

      • You bring up valid points. I guess you get as good as those you have scouting for you. And, yes, I almost stepped on one of your eyeballs in my kitchen they rolled so far. :-)

    • This could be what some folks call the “end of days” when Mark Madden is quoted as a credible source.

      Stuart

      • I said it the other day and I will say it again….do the opposite of whatever madden is suggesting. He talks for ratings and couldn’t give two shats about credibility. Tell ‘em DK…he’s your boy, he’s good at what he does…but always do as costanza does when it’s madden and baseball….run the other way.

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  6. I wonder if a sizeable contingent of Bucco Nation is making it’s way down to the nation’s capitol tonight for the series. DC has always seemed like a popular destination for Pens fans when we play the Caps.

    Sorry, that drive is too far for me from out here in IL!

  7. Garza goes to the Rangers

    That makes me happy, no division team and we did not overpay for a rental

    • Bit of an odd return for the Cubs.

      Mike Olt, the primary prospect in the package is a 3B, just as is Kris Bryant, their 2nd overall pick in the draft, college hitter Kris Bryant.

      With Rizzo at 1B long term, looks like somebody is going to be butchering left field.

    • This does not make me sad.
      We would have overpaid for a bad rental.

      9 days left for neal to do something.

    • I saw no issue with Huntington sniffing around for Garza. He was never going to give up Taillon, Polanco, et al, for a rental, but there was no harm in trying to get him for a couple grade C types. Worst Theo could do was say no, and apparently that’s all that happened.

      Maybe removing the shiny new toy from the window will help Neil focus the real problem, RF.

  8. Evening, Romper Room!

  9. Bye bye Braun.

    • Suspended for the rest of the season.

      “I realize now I’ve made some mistakes.”

      Really ?

      • Wow.

        Plant Braun’s face right up there with Lance Armstrong.

        It’s one thing to cheat, but it’s another to slander another man for your own sins as Braun did to the sample collector.

        What a jackass.

        • MLB needs to stop messing around and just kick these guys out. No tolerance. You fail a test for PEDs, and your out… for life. It’s one thing to risk a 50 game suspension, or even 100, to enjoy the benefits of these drugs. But if you threaten to take away their fortunes, their hundreds of millions of dollars, you can get rid of this crap for good.

          And while they’re at it, blood testing for HGH please? The majority of the players in the Union actually want it all out of the game, at least that’s what they say publicly. I can’t imagine it would be all that difficult to get the Union to go along.

      • And to think he beat this last year.
        Good to see this.
        More will follow him.

      • Whats wrong with baseball?

        Ryan Braun

        He musta had no room to wriggle

      • Should be for life.

    • Wow. Huge news around here.

      But, he has nagging injuries and the Brewers arn’t going anywhere. My guess is Michael Weiner (snicker) told old Braunnie to take onefor the union team now and not next year when Brewers could be back in it. Makes the union look less obstructionist to public and the clean players sick of the union defending them at all costs.

      • That is one strike though, he fails again, 100 games

        I do understand your thoughts of this season, John, but there could be deeper ramifications

        • Biz, I wonder about this.

          The suspensions are 50 and 100 games.
          This suspension is for 65 games. So I wonder if this is a 100 game suspension “reduced” because of the end of the season?

          I would have liked to see a 100 gamer……… continuing into next season.

          A-Fraud, step right up……… you’re next !! :)

          • See ya later, Cryin’ Braun. Should have admitted this long ago. Now maybe some real discussion on the use of PED’s can begin.

            • Here is my serious discussion……

              Test weekly for drugs, including HGH.
              Give them an appeal process if found guilty.
              Then ban them for life. No second chances.

              When these spoiled idiots see the gravy train of $$$$$$$$ leave the station, then the drug use will stop.

        • Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m with NMR, he’s a jackass who trampled over the good name of a lowly administrator.

          Too bad every kid in my daughter’s first grade class wears his jersey.

          Maybe he’ll give back his MVP Award. Not bloody likely.

    • I think DJ tried to stick by his guy there, without losing his own job. The guy’s been around long enough to know how these things work. Apparently he just doesn’t have as much pull as he thought.

      After what DJ said about his hitting coach and compare it what his GM said about him, I see DJ getting fired pretty soon too if it doesn’t get turned around.

      • Yeah. Nats were successful last year. Everything changes when you get that taste. Mediocrity and hanging around the Mendoza line just won’t cut it. NH and Pirates…heed those words!

  10. I am surprised to see this suspension come down today. I was of the belief based on earlier information today that a rod and others will not be suspended for a another couple of weeks.

  11. OK, quick quiz. Who are the two hottest hitters on the Pittsburgh team for July? Ready?
    Andrew McCutchen (.382) and Clint Barmes (.323). Jose Tabata comes 3rd with .300 even. Then Marte and Jones. Everyone else is hitting below the team average for the year (.243) for July,

    The Nats have the closest hitting record to the Pirates so far this season. In virtually every category, the Nationals and Pirates have near equal records. BA of .243 (Bucs) to .240 (Nats). All the hitting stats line up the same. The only category in which there is a significant difference is sacrifice flies. The Nats have 24, the Bucs have 12. That’s it.

    Even the number of runs scored is almost even.

    The Pirates have 45% more stolen bases (68-48). The number of batters hit by pitches (51-16) is much greater, too.

    Pittsburgh is a much better fielding team. And, of course, the Bucs pitching has been the best of anyone. The Nats do not really come close on pitching stats.

  12. Dear Ryan Braun,

    You sir, are a cheater and a coward. Hope you enjoy your time away from the ballpark. Don’t fret though, you’re about to have a lot of company.

    How much of a jackass do you have to be for your own union to not even try to take up for you? You attacked the integrity of a lot of people when you failed your drug test. You called into question the validity of the entire mlb drug testing program. People lost their jobs because of your lies. If you had one ounce of honor in your conniving and lying body, you would return that mvp award.

    Congratulations, you now have as much of a chance at making it to Cooperstown as I do. Sometimes bad things really do happen to bad people.

    regards,
    pattonbb

  13. Line 1 50 on the over

    Line 2 50 on the under

    I’m looking forward to Walker’s return.

  14. I am no fan of Ryan Braun or A Rod and I absolutely hate what PEDs have done to the sport.

    But I still don’t quite understand how you can suspend a player without a positive drug test ( I realize they had one on Braun and he appealed and won).

    • It was evidently a plea bargain. We don’t know what evidence was provided by Biogenics (which cooperated) but it evidently was enough to get Braun to agree not to challenge.

      In that light, no test was needed. Braun accepted without appeal, which means they likely reached agreement.

      Much as with a criminal court case. If the perp accepts the plea bargain, a jury does not have to find him guilty v

      • That means, in all probability, that A-Fraud, and the rest will get suspended too?

        One can only hope.

        • By the rules of the CBA, whatever Braun admitted to in his plea bargain can be used by MLB in appeal hearings of others to show credibility for the Biogenics evidence against others.

          It was HUGELY to the benefit of MLB to get someone to cave and plea.

          The other players’ positions are now weakened.

          Watch – others may head to the exits and seek plea deals.

          Especially those on likely playoff teams who have no history that Braun has who may think they can negotiate a 50 day suspension and come back for the playoffs.

          So that’s a lotta words to say, yes, A-Fraud and others are in MORE trouble now that one has plead out.

  15. Hi Gang.
    Still catching up on all of today’s posts, but just HAVE to make following observation without delay:

    This Blog DK has created is always such a stimulating and entertaining place to be. But the discussions on this morning’s thread truly showed how high this community can soar. The discussion on youth baseball and expenses was superb and really should be required reading for any parent with a kid in — or soon to be in — sports. The comments on the Paterno / child abuse tragedy also included a lot of thoughtful comments, highlighted by Brandie’s post which elevated all of us who had the privilege to read it.

    Great job everybody. Gotta run, will be back tonight.

  16. Nice… a 2-RUN homer by Cutch

  17. Braun gets suspended for being a cheater, the mlbpa agrees to not protect cheaters like Braun, and Cutch hits a line drive hr with somebody on base!

    Man, today is turning out to be a really good day.

  18. Definitely like what I see in the early going with Morton, his ball has a ton of sink, tail and bite. Lots of movement on his pitches, if this keeps up will be very difficult to square up.

    Cutch seems to be getting into a bit of groove, he is capable of carrying a club when he gets hot. Good to see his HR was to right center.

  19. Holy CUTCH!!

    Another 2-run HR

  20. CUTCH !!!!

    Another 2-run bomb!

    Appears to be as many Pirate fans there as nats fans.

  21. uh oh…..someone’s getting locked in…..

  22. Like I said, when Cutch gets hot he himself can carry a team, what a shot! Cutch 4, Nats 0.

  23. Morton and Cutch keeping the naysayers at bay tonight. 4-0 good guys through three. Chance to gain 1/2 game on idle Cards tonight.

  24. I always kinda enjoyed following the Expos.

    Could care less, even dislike a bit, the Nationals.

    Not sure the reason.

  25. Productive out by Gaby, gets Martin in on the ground out, 5-0 Buccos.

  26. See, doesn’t even have to be a hit.

  27. I know it’s only 4 innings, but I’d call your friends.

  28. Dan Haren went 4 innings and is done.

  29. In the grand scheme of things, they really let Haren off the hook. 0-5 RISP could have really made this comfortable.

  30. Hello to all! All kinds of good things happening tonight! Braun gone, comfortable lead, and nothing to do but sit here and watch baseball and get in on discussion about this great game. I don’t know if anyone here likes country music, but all I can think of is Travis Tritt’s song, “It’s a Great Day to Be Alive”. All that could make this better is if I saw a headline of a smart Bucco trade. You never know. LETS GO BUCS!

  31. Solo home run…1 base hit…oh well. Get the next out. Work quick, throw strikes, kick a$$.

  32. Roger Bernadina will cure what ails ya.

  33. Good evening fellow lunatics. After seeing that throw – who is worse? Ramos or Barajas? Let the debate begin :)

  34. The last Pirate sacrifice fly to the outfield was in mid May.

    • And it continues. That is astonishing that there doing so well in the standings and can’t hit a sacrifice fly.

  35. Good job Gaby–he is pathetic

  36. I’m betting the Middleton Baby wins the Sovereign Race at the end of the inning.

  37. Big, big, big inning for Charlie.

  38. If your in town and are looking for something to do with a little bit of time, I suggest going on a ball park tour of PNC Park. Because of my work schedule currently, I’m working 230/300 AM to 11/12Noon, I had the afternoon off today. The wife and I decided to take a trip into the city and went on a tour. The tour was highly informational and we really enjoyed it. It started in the left field corner, take about high mark square, and then into the building we went. We then learned about how the inside of the park worked. They pointed out to us the medicial facilities that are available to the players, coaches, umpires, etc. We then walked past the enterance to the Pirates dugout before we went into the Pirates clubhouse. We saw the shark tank first hand and they talked about the lockers and n’at. After the clubhouse we proceeded to the visitors dug out and onto the field. They allowed us on the warning track outside of the visitors dugout. They were very strict about not allowing anyone to touch the grass. It was interesting to see the playing field from the dugout and to actually be on the field. After the club house, we were up to the press box. Its surprising how close it feels like you are from the playing field from up there. We then went to the club level and they talked about how there are 9 tables in one of the rooms to signify Maz’s number. They also had a bat hanging on the wall from each of the Pirate’s batting champs. They talked about the different uniforms the Pirates have worn throughout the years and what the Black and Yellow/Gold means. Overall, it was a very educational trip and well worth the 8 dollars for the tour.

  39. Morton induces the DP ball and finishes sixth with his 5th K. Just another terrific start being turned in by Bucs starter. At 79 pitches easily has another inning or two in him.

  40. Putting good vibes out to Jandy, Kare-Bear, Revvy, everyone really. Charlie Morton us groovin’, the offense is breathing, and the blog vibe is mellow. Such a good night.

  41. Hmmmm. Greg and John are a bit off tonight. They just called Jordy Clint Barmes on that long foul ball down the left field line.

  42. 7 innings and Charley starts to get real shaky.

  43. Heck of a pick by Gaby Sanchez, two days in a row that he has made solid plays defensively.

  44. Time to get him out of there, Clint.

  45. Take 6 2/3 IP from your #4 starter every time….time for baseball’s number one pen to finish the last seven outs of this one.

  46. Now the fun begins.

  47. Who would win a race between Gaby and Tabata??

  48. It’s a Gaby signature moment situation.

    • ……..and he fails again.
      Shocker.

      • In fairness to Gaby he has not had a lot of chances against LHP in awhile as the Bucs have not faced one.

        • Are you REALLY SERIOUS??? the guy is AWFUL.

          • Your comments can border on AWFUL, Gaby not so much. Best defensive 1B on team as demonstrated yesterday and today, and one of the better hitters on team versus LHP. Very serviceable player.

            I know you must be chapped tonight as the pickings are slim for you to complain about.

            Another great night of Pirate baseball as they are about to win second straight on road, go 19 above .500 and continue to get great pitching and tonight some big hitting.

            • JRay3:

              yes, Gaby and Barmes are very good defensively, but do you really think the Pirates can go far with them? I like them, but I want the team to improve, dont you?

              Yes, it is a great night of Pirate baseball.
              I want the great nights to continue. Improving the team gives a better chance of that happening.

              • Plan,

                Yes I want the team to improve…I’m on record saying I wish the team would trade for a starting SS as I’m not sold on options, after that a RF that could play along with Tabata or Jones.

                Gaby has his role on this team and quite honestly has come in to a righty just out of the pen or a RH starter to give him some AB’s to stay sharp. He has hit LHP all year.

                McKenry has his role on this team and as long as he does not become a defensive liability I can live with his bat as he doesn’t play but once a week. Now if team’s run at will and it forces the defense and it’s hand may need to look there. If not way down on the priority list.

                I want the same thing, winning baseball, playoff baseball but to constantly rip a team that is about to be 58-39, come on.

              • I hope you arent saing I constantly rip the team.

                I feel I am fair in my assessments.
                But I dont know who you directed that to…….. me, or others. :)

            • You are unbelievable–you keep a guy on the roster because he makes a few defensive plays but gives you NOTHING from the power position of first base??
              You put your BEST 25 players on the roster and Gaby is not one of them to name a few. You are completely non-objective.

        • Oh, I understand.

          My big beef, is Gaby doesnt produce much.
          Neither do Harrison, Snider, Barmes, etc………….

          Upgrades needed.

          • You are correct. Gaby, McKenry, Inge, Barmes, Snider, Harrison.
            This bench is just plain awful and anyone that thinks differently, is drinking far too much Pirate Kool Aid.

            • I dont know.
              I am not a kool-aid drinker, I just want the necessary upgrades needed to help the team.
              We have players at AAA that should get a look, and there is always trades.

              Again, nothing against the players I listed, I just want to improve the team.

              • Plan, do not disagree this team could use a bat both in the form of a starter and one to add to the bench.

                But this team as currently constructed continues to get it done as they have all year.

                With that great DP by Watson, just three more outs to go!

              • Again,
                You are right–there is NO WAY Presley could be any worse than Snider, or Sanchez worse than McKenry?? Nope.

            • I haven’t read or heard anyone who thinks the bench isn’t awful.

  49. Never a different result with that guy. He is horrible. Neal has to get rid of some of these losers.

  50. The Pirates wild pitch based offense strikes again.

  51. Didnt know Pedro could run that fast.
    But I am glad he did!

  52. And these “losers” take a 6-3 lead on the Nats pen throwing a wild pitch. Huge insurance run!

  53. This Pirate team has an amazing knack for bringing out the worst in an opponent.

    • Alvarez single, Martin walk, great bunt put pressure on opposition that had something to do with it….other team pressing trying to be too perfect.

  54. Nice play by Barmes

  55. Send Walker back down.

  56. And Tony Watson does his part as this pen continues its lock down of the opposition, on to the 9th up 3 and 3 outs to go!

  57. Tony Watson since May 25th -

    20 games / 24 IP / 1.50 ERA

    Overlooked.

    • Honestly, the one guy that I think has been relatively unknown to even most Pirates fans is reliever Vin Mazzaro. I’m pretty happy with Grilli, Melancon, Morris and Gomez, just prefer to have a veteran shutdown guy for the 6th/7th inning to bridge the RH matchups in those innings.

      For lefties, can’t get much better than Watson and Wilson.

  58. I need the storms to hold off for 3 more outs, so I can see the win. :)

  59. Two of the 3 worst offenses in the league combine for 11 runs. Like Jawn & Suzyn say, you just can’t figure baseball.

  60. This team cannot lose this game…. not after scoring 6 runs.

    NOT tonight.

  61. Remember back when it was 5-0 ? It should have been 8 or 9.

  62. FINAL Pirates 6, Nationals 5.

    It says this at the top of the blog here, but I’m watching Grilli disintegrate with a runner on second and one out in the ninth…

  63. They let them hang around and this is what you get. Come on Man!!!!!

  64. Grilli looks like he is hurting. He should have never had to pitch tonight.

  65. Oh no… Grilli is hurt…

  66. Devastating blow for Grilli…. that’s not a good sign.

  67. My man Grilli is heading south tonight. It happens. Bucs just can’t get enough key hits to have an easy game. Gabby Sanchez is a joke and can’t hit the ball out of the infield when he does hit it. Should have put the game away and now it looks like Nats may pull one out. Hey NH, get some bats and don’t continue this charade of Tabata, Snyder, Inge and the Fort.

  68. I’m not going to say anything about Sports Illustrated.

  69. Add back end of the bullpen to “trade for” list. :\

  70. SI Cover jin …. No. Don’t think so.

  71. Good thing team has Melancon, get Vic Black he has been lights out in Indy.

  72. Just get this out, tomorrow

    You deal with tomorrow

  73. Come on Vin!!!”

  74. YAY !!! RAISE THE JOLLY HIPPO!!!

    Thankful the storms held off.
    Hope Grili isnt hurt………… maybe forearm tightness? Hope it isnt an elbow.

    Great game by Cutch with the 2 homers.

  75. Raise it

    Now we deal with tomorrow

  76. Behind two McCutchen two run blasts, a solid Morton start and Vin Mazzaro’s 1st save of the year, the Bucs defeat Washington 6-5 in game one of the four game set and there was nooooooooooo doubt about it.

    With the win the Pirates improve to 19 games above .500 at 58-39, go to 7-9 in July and improve to 2-2 on the ten game road trip. The Bucs will look to make it three consecutive wins tomorrow night when Gerritt Cole makes his first start of the second half.

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  77. did it! Raise it!!

  78. Well this could certainly shake the trade deadline up.

  79. See what Clint says in post game. My gut tells me it is not a cramp. Hopefully is not a Wandy forearm. Back to the drawing board.

    • It seems most “forearm” injuries end in elbow surgery. I don’t expect Wandy back this season and let’s hope for the best with Grilli.

  80. ….fear the (black and bruised) Bones….

  81. Uh-Oh.

  82. Did Grilli get hurt in the 9th? Just got home from church and missed most of the game.

  83. It seems that 95% of the relievers are conditioned / taught to throw as hard as they can, ‘max effort’ , for one inning. It is amazing that more of them don’t get hurt more often.

    But then again, maybe the do get hurt often.

    • And what I don’t understand is why can the TV announcers see something was wrong with Grilli and the guys in the dugout 30 feet away couldn’t?

      • Thats a good question.

        I think it may have to do with seeing it from a height, that cant be seen at field level?

  84. No panic, lets hope Grilli is ok but if not, there is Melancon as closer, Watson and Wilson–superb and Mazarro is excellent.

    • Probably one area team could afford a potential injury. Bryan Morris has pitched well of late as well, still some power arms down at Indy -Welker, Black (who has been lights out), Reid did well during his brief time with club.

      Lots of options, but still hoping best for Grilli.

  85. Didn’t DK say something about arms falling off by the middle of July a couple of months ago?

  86. I’d prefer Pirates look at White Sox reliever Jesse Crain, put him as 8th inning setup man and move Melancon to closer and just hope Grilli can come back but I don’t think that looked good at all.

    • My feeling before tonight’s game was that the Pirates would add a bench player at the deadline. A guy who could play third & second and could actually get a pinch hit. This would allow them to cut Inge and send JHay back down and maybe bring Presley back up. ( Compared to Harrison, I feel more comfortable with Presley as a pinch runner and a guy who could get a sac bunt down…plus he’s a better hitter)

      Now, I’m not sure what they’ll do.

    • You would think he’s going somewhere.

  87. Well, I kept power so I could see this thru.

    Hope everyone is enjoying this win………. but Grilli’s injury will worry me until a definite is told to us.

    Good night Looney-tics!

  88. Where is Jose Contreras when you need him? I jest.

  89. ….doesn’t sound good.

  90. Anyone remember Jim Gott in Montreal ? I had that flashback.

  91. another “sore forearm”

  92. Forearm discomfort. DK says when the Bucs say forearm, it means elbow.

  93. From Dejan’s tweets

    Sounds ominous, IMO

    As Mike Tomlin says

    Next man has to step up

    GrilledCheese sitting in his locker with his head in his hands

  94. Rob B. said Martin saw him wince in pain after his last pitch, but didn’t see anything obvious before that. He’ll be reevaluated tomorrow according to the twitter universe.

  95. Logic should tell you that even in the worst case scenario they should be able to get through this. They still have a lot of great arms. The timing is even on their side with still more than a week to go before the trading deadline. But if these guys have proven anything over the last two years it’s that it is a very fragile group.

  96. I am in the camp that Bucs just can’t hit well enough to win the division. But if Grilli goes down. then the keep it close and depend on the bull pen to finish is difficult to continue to execute. Starting pitching is fine and Meloncin can close. But NH has to know that the RF position is a disaster and needs to be addressed. 53 million net payroll while the Cards are 116 million and the Reds are at 110 million is why they win. Time to step up Nutting. If not and I hear the same BS as to small market crap, what you are trying to build and convince fans that we are going to win and we are all in. Actions are what we are looking for not words. If this management group doesn’t make the kind of moves necessary to win, then I suspect fans will not be as forgiving if the team heads south from here. 82 wins are nice, but blowing smoke as not to mortgage the future nonsense is very telling. If Nutting can’t or won’t move the payroll up, Nutting should be fried for not keeping his word. And the other owners need to start insisting he spends the revenue sharing or they take that away. Pirates by most estimates rake in something north of 150 million and next year probably 175 to 180 million. This payroll is a joke relative to other organizations.

  97. Shoot man. Melancon closes and Vic black needs to get it up and YOGA!

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