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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

WASHINGTON — Looking ahead to first pitch …


Game: Pirates (60-39) vs. Washington Nationals (48-53)

Starters: RHP A.J. Burnett vs. LHP Gio Gonzalez

Time: 12:35 p.m.

Site: Nationals Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Jordy Mercer, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Russell Martin, C
  5. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  6. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  7. Josh Harrison, RF
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Burnett, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel and I are on the scene.

And here, again, is the Thursday column on guys who can improve internally.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. mark says:

    Where is Walker?

  2. Lad9 says:

    Lefty pitching. I think we will see a lot more of this in the future.

  3. AJS says:

    I guess someone should start preparing my hat for ingestion.

    Mark: Walker is absent from the line up due to his abysmal numbers from the right side of the plate. Probably that and the fact that he is just coming off a stint on the DL so they want to give him a rest as to not over work that oblique.

  4. AJS says:

    We may, but that I am still dumbfounded by this. I guess recent history is a better indication than career history. I know Walker has always had better numbers from the left side but never like this. I thought for sure they would give thier former all-star second baseman the chance to work through it and come around. Oh how things are different when in the hunt.

  5. Brandie says:

    Do you want salt with that?

  6. Paul says:

    Walker’s fresh off the DL, and struggles batting right-handed. I like the lineup, especially giving Harrison a chance to start. Was thinking Marte might get a day off soon, but maybe a left-handed pitcher can break him out of his funk.

  7. Lad9 says:

    I expected it, but I don’t like it. If it is to make sure he doesn’t fire up his oblique again I am OK with that, but I think that mini hot streak that Barmes had is still resonating with CH. Course he has been pulling all of the right levers lately, so I would not be suprised to be proven wrong yet again.

  8. Brandon says:

    The premise that all of this is relying on is just silly: Walker supposedly can hit lefty pitchers better from the right side (RH BA – .193)? I get that he thinks he’s a legitimate switch-hitter because that’s part of the reason he rose through the minors. But, we’re long past the point of no return of Walker as a switch hitter. Management needs to sit him down and communicate that he’s only batting left-handed from now on.

  9. AJS says:

    Didn’t this happen to Bonilla as well. he hit switch for a long time and them settled in as a righty for the duration of his career I believe.

  10. Stickyweb says:

    As someone who advocated for playing Barmes against LHP just a few days ago, I’m reconsidering. Although he’s been much better career wise against LHP than Walker, this year he’s even worse than Neil! So go with Barmes for a few lefties and if that doesn’t work out, get Walker back in.

    Even better, Get Placido Polanco for a few (non-explosive) rosin bags. He has mashed LHP his whole career, including this year. Then get someone similar for RF and they’re all set.

  11. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Line #1
    Total STRIKEOUTS by Adam LaRoche in today’s game
    Line is 1.5

    Line #2
    Total INNINGS PITCHED by AJ Burnett in today’s game
    Line is 6.5

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    60 Down, only 22 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  12. Stickyweb says:

    If you’re going to sit Marte, do it against a RHP. He’s killing LHP .412/.452/.632. Like you said, hopefully a lefty, along with him starting the 9th inning rally yesterday (which turned out to be pretty important, no?) can break him out of the slump.

  13. blazer says:

    Tough line 2 today but I will go over for 100 each on both lines.

  14. Sisyphus says:

    Walker has not been a productive hitter against left handers since 2010, so this is not recent history.

  15. Sisyphus says:

    No, that was Orlando Merced, who started out switch hitting, then settled in as a lefty.

  16. Stickyweb says:

    I’m not sure you need to do that yet. Plus making that change mid-season has a much better chance of screwing him up than helping him out. He’s been OK against LHP before this year, though it’s declined the past few seasons OPS vs. LHP .809 in 2010, .672 in 2011, .602 in 2012 and .435 this year. If he can get back to .600 – .650, there’s no need for a change. It looked like he was at least getting a few singles off LHP before the latest injury (though I could be mis-remembering that). But in a real pennant race, what he’s doing this year won’t cut it.

  17. Bdubb says:

    I think I would rather have Walker play instead of Barmes. I get Walker’s numbers vs lefties is atrocious but isn’t he always going to be a better play than Barmes?

  18. radio wave says:

    At playoffs: I will take 75 on the over four strikeouts for LaRoche. I will take 75 on the under four line 2 on the innings pitched.

  19. radio wave says:

    Looks like a Sunday lineup on a Thursday.

  20. Stickyweb says:

    Are you a little hung up on Adam LaRoche and Ks, or what? :-) He screwed me last night (actually the umpire calling pitches screwed me by calling that 0-2 pitch on the inside corner a ball, but it’s a good thing I don’t hold grudges). Since I’m a glutton for punishment (and pizza, incidentally), I’ll go with:

    100 UNDER line 1

    100 UNDER line 2

    Thanks again.

  21. Lad9 says:

    Line 1 under
    Line 2 over

    both for 100

    Thank you! Go Buccos!

  22. Stickyweb says:

    Does Jay-Hey in RF scare anyone else, or am I crazy? I know those options aren’t mutually exclusive, but humor me.

  23. Jim S. says:

    I believe this is only the 20th LHP start against the Bucs this year. Our division is light on LHP outside of the Bucs. So, even if Neil doesn’t start vs. them going forward, it is not as though he is now a part-time player. That would only be sitting 20% or so of the time.

    This is a prudent move. It allows him to get the occasional day off to ensure he recovers fully, and it gets someone in the lineup who is hitting LHP better.

  24. Stickyweb says:

    BTW Sisy, I just looked up who Sisyphus is and that may be the best moniker for a Bucco fan ever.

  25. JohnS says:

    I wonder if JayHay is the precursor to Tabata to the DL. I hope not. I know most semi-hate Tabata but he is a legit MLB hitter when playing regular.

  26. SeanAY says:

    Hey, it might be nothing, but it might be something:

    “9:28am: White Sox executive vice president Kenny Williams “has been spotted in Altoona,” home of the Pirates’ Double-A club, notes Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune.”

  27. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Everybody has that ONE player who always drove them nuts.
    My white whale is Adam LaRoche.

  28. Jim S. says:

    I kind of like that Placido Polanco thought.

    It will also get us use to a Polanco in the lineup in preparation for the next 10 years or so.

  29. Bdhumbert says:

    AJ goes the distance :-)

    In response to DK’s morning slam!

    100 on line 2 please!

  30. Bdhumbert says:

    Would love to see Lambo in RF!

  31. Nate83 says:

    Line 2 – 100 on the over.

  32. Jandy says:

    Hot sauce? ;)

  33. pattonbb says:

    Line 1 – 100 UNDER
    Line 2 – 100 UNDER

  34. Joey Mellons says:

    line 1, 100 and under
    line 2, 100 and over.
    Break out the broom. Lets go bucs.

  35. Jim S. says:

    I am trying to figure out why giving Harrison a start is a good thing. I am even more dumbfounded that he gets a start in RF. Roberto continues to roll over in his grave when he sees CH treat that position as though it really doesn’t matter defensively. Harrison is not a good offensive player, and he is an infielder. For goodness sakes, go get an outfielder somewhere – if only to avoid Harrison playing RF. I realize they were in a bit of a pickle, since Tabby probably can’t go today. But, I’d still give the start to Snider.

  36. Stickyweb says:

    I hear ya, Ahab. He frustrated the hell out of me in his time here too, but I’ve moved on. His biggest fault? Why couldn’t he get brother Andy to realize a fraction of that potential?

  37. Jandy says:

    yup! :D

  38. Stickyweb says:

    Me likey

  39. Jim S. says:

    Exactly, Sticky! Walker himself addressed it. I don’t think he is ready to throw in the towel on being a switch hitter just yet, but even if he were, you don’t do it right in the middle of a season. The Pirates would not advocate that and he wouldn’t do it. The better decision for now is to limit his ABs vs. LHP to situations late in games when we have a lead, if possible.

  40. Drew71 says:

    He’s just in town to hang at Al’s Tavern.

    It’s an Altoona institution.

  41. Sisyphus says:

    Thanks, it does fit, but I started using it about 15 years ago for a very different kind of online forum.

  42. cmat0829 says:

    bingo Jim. This is 75% performance-based, 25% making sure Neil doesn’t get injured again….

    Clear as a bell that Neil vs. LHP isn’t working… Neil knows it, CH knows it, the PITCHERS know it… also clear that Barmes and Mercer paired nicely while Neil was out…

    I think in today’s lineup, the RF is about as loud a message as CH can possibly send… NH needs to get someone in here to play RF and he has 5 days to do it. Tabby isn’t the answer, Snider isn’t the answer… JayHey sure as hell isn’t but why not give him a shot today…

  43. Jandy says:

    I’d also prefer Snider over JHay in right. Having said that, I expect JHay to make me eat my words! (I’m not gonna eat my hat, like others here do lol)

  44. Jim S. says:

    Yes, I commented above. We are in lockstep today, Sticky.

    Tabby probably had a watermelon on his forearm today, so Snider would have to go lefty vs. lefty. I’d still do that. Harrison is an infielder.

  45. Brandie says:

    Kind Mr. Playoffs,

    May In have 25 on the over for each line? Thank you!

  46. SeanAY says:

    I was always a fan of the Belmar Hotel.

  47. The expert on taverns speaks.

  48. Jandy says:

    I have to say, the Barmes/Mercer tandem has been doing just fine.

  49. cmat0829 says:

    Perfect timing to visit Miami, make the trade for Placido this weekend so he can just switch clubhouses…. Joshy can just hop a flight from Miami to Indy….

  50. Jandy says:

    Their wings are the best!!!!!

  51. Jim S. says:

    My face is officially blue, John, from saying I would prefer a Tabby/someone new (Aoki, Schierholtz) platoon to Alex Rios.

    But, with Ken Williams roaming around, I think an Alex Dickerson for Rios deal may be in the works. Ugh!

  52. Drew71 says:

    Sure. I would too.

    Next time I’m in Indianaolis.

    But in the midst of a legitimate pennant race and playoff chase?

    Not my favorite time to ‘see what the kid can do’.

    Can’t wait to see him next year in Spring Training. Nothing would please me more if he EARNS a spot that way.

    But winning, playoff-chasing teams don’t usually HAND a spot when they are trying to roll into the playoffs.

  53. Two straight Sunday lineups mid-week. Probably 2 straight wins, too.

    This is our year!

  54. Jandy says:

    SeanAy, I used to live 2 blocks from the Belmar, before I moved to Duncansville. I HATED living in Altoona. And I admit, I never set foot in the Belmar lol.
    Al’s Tavern, tho, I haunted for some time…not anymore tho.

  55. cmat0829 says:

    Fearless prediction, Walker either hits exclusively LH in 2014 or he is platooned vs. RHP. He won’t have the option of hitting RH and playing. I think he will do that, and I also think he will be better than Pedro and GI Jones vs. LHP as a leftie.

  56. Jim S. says:

    Admit it, Jandy. He’s there for lunch with you. BTW, tell him we don’t want his re-tread OF Rios over a plate of those wings!

  57. Brandie says:

    Tell em’ Revvie!

  58. Lad9 says:

    Jandy! How goes it today? Thanks for the wing recommendation – always on the lookout for good wings….

  59. Jandy says:

    C’mon Brandie, go BIG!

  60. Jandy says:

    Lad, my man, how far from Altoona are you???

  61. Jim S. says:

    JHay off the 40-man, Lambo on? I think that would need to occur. Or, somebody else has to be removed. Someone else rightly pointed that out earlier.

  62. Jandy says:

    haha, I’ll do that Jim ;)

  63. Lad9 says:

    I would say you were crazy if he didn’t scare you out there. He certainly frightens me.

  64. cmat0829 says:

    wow, is it that common for a GM to do his own scouting in person? I don’t recall NH scouting another minor league team at the deadline, but i haven’t paid attention to that.

  65. Who’s handing a spot? Just a shot is all some folks need.

    You want Harrison there or Tabata? Lambo is a lefty and can play against righties and lefties if necessary.

    And the spelling bee champ can’t spell Indianapolis?

    :D :) 8-)

  66. cmat0829 says:

    let’s go 100 each:
    1. UNDER
    2. OVER

  67. Jim S. says:

    Either way, I doubt he starts vs LHP next season. As I said, that is only 20% of the games this season.

  68. Lad9 says:

    I live in the Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh. It’s not too far.

  69. Jandy says:


  70. JRay3 says:

    Good afternoon to the window. Great day for the Bucs to earn a sweep and make it five straight wins.

    Line 1 – 75 on the UNDER

    Line 2- 75 on the OVER

    Thanks and Let’s Go Bucs!

  71. cmat0829 says:

    forgot tabby’s forearm swelled to the size of ‘canteloupes’ (will refrain from political musings and will leave it at that).. and he likely can’t go today.

    I am NOT an Elvis fan, but I’d go ahead and send JayHey to Indy after this game and recall Presley for the weekend… he can play RF until they make a trade for someone.

  72. Jandy says:

    just 2 hours…lol

  73. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, once they take the field I want them all to do well.

  74. Brandie says:

    Lad! Jandy! Could I get any luckier?

  75. Bdhumbert says:

    Just think that is a better option than trading for a overpaid outfielder with attitude who is going to cost at least a B level prospect if not an A

  76. Jim S. says:


  77. JRay3 says:

    Greg Brown on the radio stated that had Tabata not gotten hurt last night it would have been Alvarez who most likely would have sat today and JHay would have gotten the start at third.

    Mark Melancon is not available today. My guess Tony Watson becomes the de facto closer should the Bucs need one today.

  78. Jandy says:

    Keep calm, and go BIG!

    100 on the under for line 1

    100 on the over for line 2
    Go AJ, kick some butt!

  79. Jim S. says:

    Don’t do it, AJS. If we all had to be 100% right on our predictions to avoid eating our hats, there would be no hats left in all of the various Lunatic Asylum locales.

  80. Jandy says:

    Brandimal, it’s your lucky day! :D

  81. Brandie says:

    I just lifted…already went big. :-)

  82. Jandy says:

    Tony can handle it.
    And I was thinking Pedro would sit today too. Weird how things work out.

  83. Jim S. says:

    Sometimes, I think Hurdle just laughs and says “I’m going for it because these guys will find a way.”

  84. Jandy says:

    LOL good girl ;)

  85. Stickyweb says:

    Sorry to hear that :-) Hope you reach the top soon.

  86. Jim S. says:

    Then, stick him with the tab.

  87. Jandy says:

    but of course, they’re our boys!

  88. 21sthebest says:

    The Curve are in New Hampshire.

  89. Lad9 says:

    Friends, the Buccos in a matinee, beautiful day – what more could you ask? Well a cold adult beverage would be nice, but they frown on that sort of thing in the office.

  90. 21sthebest says:

    Maybe he was there for a home game last night.

  91. Jim S. says:

    He’s not even the GM any more. I think he is the GM’s boss, right?

    That would be like Frank … never mind.

  92. Brandie says:

    Jay-Hey…I don’t even have the words to describe.

  93. Jandy says:

    You’re right 21, today thru Sunday

  94. Stickyweb says:

    Of course I mean a fraction higher than 1/20

  95. Lad9 says:

    LOL That’s awesome. Maybe he is there to see an AAU tournament…. :)

  96. Jandy says:

    Yeah here too Lad, offices bosses are just no fun ;)

  97. Jandy says:

    Oh I’ll stick him with the tab all right…

  98. Brandie says:

    What bubble head laid out Altoona anyway? Duncansville is a pleasant diversion. Huntingdon…might as well be driving to Hades. I hate that part of 453!

  99. Jandy says:

    and many times these guys DO find a way…

  100. Stickyweb says:

    “We are in lockstep today, Sticky”

    Jim, sorry about that, for your sake I really hope you break out of the lockstep soon. It’s not a pleasant place :-)

  101. Brandie says:

    I’m driving so I have to abstain.

  102. NMR says:


  103. Stickyweb says:

    Absolutely Jandy. It’s been a great run, and it’s gonna get better.

  104. Patrick(RI) says:

    Was he hit in the calves? Oops.

  105. Bill Born says:

    Line 1 over
    Line 2 over
    Both for 100 Please
    Thank you.

  106. Jandy says:

    I’m thinkin that way too, Sisyphus. Positive vibes.

  107. Brandie says:

    63 inches of Dynamite (thanks Rad Lad) has to stay in shape. I may have to replace J-Hay!

  108. Jandy says:

    Now that’s an option!

  109. Brandie says:

    I know that’s right! Hot sauce may even make J-Hay more palatable.

  110. Jandy says:

    Brandie, I’m actually outside of Duncansville, and Blair Creek runs thru my back yard. I love it there.
    Altoona is a disaster in the city. Hated it.

  111. Bizrow says:

    100 over for both lines, thanks Playoffs

  112. JRay3 says:

    On the CH show he just stated he is looking to get Cutch, Marte and Alvarez all a day off sooner rather than later, cited that Andrew and Pedro did not get break with All-Star game. I would expect some interesting lineups in Miami prior to the St Louis series.

    Also thinks Tabata could hit today if needed, throwing a whole different story.

  113. Dadtackular says:

    Line one. $100 under
    Line two. $100 under

  114. Stickyweb says:

    Hopefully that Rios for Dickerson talk is just blog nonsense. I’d rather get Marlon Byrd for some 30 year old at high A than Rios for any kind of prospect. And Michael Morse started a rehab assignment a few days ago. I’d love to see Huntington think outside the box and trade for him, even if he’s still on DL (if that’s allowed). It could be for a PTBNL, conditional on him being healthy and getting certain PA levels.

  115. 21sthebest says:

    Snider is hitting .095 against left handed pitching this year. I’d rather take my chances with Jones but I have no problem with Harrison over Snider.

  116. theplanisworking says:

    Yes Brandie, you can get luckier……… I am here. :)

  117. Strohdave says:

    This lineup works ok if the Bucs are fortunate enough
    To get to the bullpen early. Then we have Walker
    And Snider available. But ,That’s a longshot

  118. NMR says:

    , That would be quite a shocker.

    Platoon 2nd basemen don’t make $8-10m which is what he’s on pace to grab through arb.

    Almost certainly would be non-tendered after next season.

  119. theplanisworking says:

    Mr. Playoffs,

    may I have 50 Hippos, both lines OVER.


  120. Jandy says:

    YAY! Hipposter!!!!!

  121. Stickyweb says:

    I’m sure you still “haunt” it Jandy, even if you haven’t been there isn years. The staff and patrons will never be the same :-)

  122. cosmo says:

    line 1 100 under
    line 2 100 over

    bring out the brooms!

  123. Jandy says:

    LOL! :P

  124. JaxBuc says:

    Please sir, may I have……wait, Biz hasn’t placed a wager so I don’t know what to pick…

    Oh well,

    50 OVER for Line 1
    100 OVER for Line 2

  125. Jandy says:


  126. Stickyweb says:

    Jandy, buy hime a few brews and see if you can get Chris Sale for Inge. I think they still have 8 days to trade Inge.

  127. Jandy says:

    Sale…hmmm…that might work…maybe 2 or 3 brews will do it ;)

  128. Brandon says:

    I didn’t say the switch needed to be made this season, I’m just pointing out the absurdity of what’s going on. And, obviously Walker’s not ready to throw in the towel on continuing to bat righty or he would’ve made the switch on his own accord.

    It’s just unfortunate that he’s going to miss time against lefties down the stretch of this playoff push because he believes that he’s a legitimate switch-hitter when the numbers clearly suggest otherwise.

    If you’re a switch-hitter, you don’t get taken off of the lineup card when a lefty takes the mound. If he was a switch-hitter, Barmes wouldn’t be in the lineup on these occassions.

  129. Brandie says:

    HIPPOSTER!!!!!!!! HUGS!!!!!!

  130. Brandie says:

    That’s Blair Crick, cause you live near it. For every one else, it’s Creek!

  131. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, I saw you live near Duncansville…….. home to Hoss’s. Wish THEY had wings………

    Glad to see everyone here today.
    Feels like home.

  132. Dom says:

    21 reported that the White Sox are scouting Altoona.

    My question is who are we looking to obtain in return?

    Alex Rios is overrated and awfully streaky at times. He has fewer homers than Ibanez so why overpay for Rios? Ibanez has a far superior slugging percentage. I think I’d also have kendrys morales who can also play first and OF.

    Alexei Ramirez has a lower OBP and homers than Mercer. If we do obtain Ramirez, I sure hope Mercer isn’t part of the deal.

  133. Brandie says:

    Throw in some Chipped Chopped Ham and I think ya got a winner!

  134. Brandie says:

    Lambo? Wasn’t that a movie with Sylvester Stallone?

  135. Stickyweb says:

    But winning, playoff-chasing teams also don’t roll out an automatic 0 fer 4 at a corenr OF spot where you need offensive production either. Quite a Catch 22 the Bucs are in.

  136. Milo Hamilton says:

    Makes sense. They’ve played a whopping 7 days in a row.

  137. Stickyweb says:

    Only in Asia. Oh I can’t believe I went there. But Brandie baited me into it.

  138. Jandy says:


  139. Jandy says:

    it *IS* home…home away from home :)

  140. theplanisworking says:

    Was there a “Happy Ending”??

  141. Jandy says:


  142. Jandy says:

    LMAO! that cracks me up!

  143. Jandy says:

    nope, he ended up getting Lambasted!

  144. Brandie says:

    Dude…You took the bait! Anyway…Go Sticky! Go Sticky!

  145. JRay3 says:

    Don’t see Cutch get heated too often, and he had every right as that pitch was closer to Fairfax than the plate.

  146. Brandie says:

    Home for the throwbacks, the misfits, in short… The Bucco fans!

  147. Milo Hamilton says:

    Mike Winters apparently has an early flight today.

  148. theplanisworking says:

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……….. hot sauce.

  149. Jandy says:

    Who’s behind the plate? Anyone know?

  150. pattonbb says:

    Gio Gonzalez is going to have a great day if his strike zone extends a foot off of the plate.

  151. Stickyweb says:

    I think the correct spelling of that is DYN-O-MITE!

  152. Jandy says:

    ok that answers that. Thanks, Milo!

  153. Jandy says:

    I wouldn’t mind so much, if AJ’s strike zone extended that same foot!

  154. Brandie says:

    Smooches Sticky!

  155. Chuck H says:

    We should either make a deal for a ,260+ outfielder or give Polanco a shot at the Bigs.
    It’s true, we are winning right now, and we get to play the Marlins for a few, but there’s
    going to come a time or two, when we will need to go to our pitiful bench (now without
    Inge) for a base hit or a fly ball to the outfield. The pitching staff keeps getting better and better. GO, BUCS!!!

  156. Jandy says:

    2 on, 2 out…go ahead, Pedro, make our day!

  157. pattonbb says:

    That one was pretty bad. But I agree, hope Winters is consistent.

  158. Jandy says:


  159. pattonbb says:

    FYI – this game is’s free game of the day. You can watch it online.

  160. AJS says:

    I heard an interview with Neil earlier in the year where he said he absoluetly has no plans of not switch hitting. He did say it is a hard thing to get enough cuts from both sides of the plate in BP but feels he definitely benefits from seeing lefties from the right side.

    As far as platooning…so we want a platoon at first, a platoon in right and a platoon at second? How bout we find some guys that can play every day no matter who is pitching? More than one platoon on a team is a bad sign. three is just out of control.

  161. theplanisworking says:

    Arnold Slick thanks you. :)

  162. theplanisworking says:

    Are YOU an expert on taverns??? ;)

  163. AJS says:

    Didn’t we say this last night? It is not a good sign offensively when every day loks like a sunday line up!

  164. Brandie says:

    Heinz Hippo Hot Sauce! (Not made from Hippos.)

  165. theplanisworking says:

    Brandie, I just wanted to tell you the line about me pulling a cart the other day was one of the funniest things I have read in years. Thank you of thinking of me.

  166. theplanisworking says:

    Brandie, I just wanted to tell you the line about me pulling a cart the other day was one of the funniest things I have read in years. Thank you of thinking of me.

  167. Naterosboro says:

    Good start for AJ. Hits Bryce Harper.

  168. theplanisworking says:

    Yes, Brandie, most bait is Sticky. ;)

  169. Stickyweb says:

    That’s only true with Inge DFA’d if Vic Black was not already on the 40 man. Does anyone know that? If he was already on the 40 man, we should have Inge’s spot open, yes?

  170. Dom says:

    He didn’t make our day.

  171. theplanisworking says:

    Well, that rundown sucked, eh?

  172. Dom says:

    That’s the way to show Harper who’s boss.

  173. JRay3 says:

    Could not have gift wrapped that one any more than that.

  174. Naterosboro says:

    Leadoff man on, usually scores. Just normally not like that. Barmes needs to get rid of the ball earlier there and not keep Petey guessing.

  175. Milo Hamilton says:

    Poor job by Barmes. Needs to give that ball up right away so they can run him back to 2nd.

  176. Lad9 says:


  177. JRay3 says:

    Certainly gift wrapped that one. Barmes should have gotten the ball to Pedro quicker, poor execution of a rundown.

  178. theplanisworking says:

    Announcers just confirm what you said. :)

  179. pattonbb says:

    The keystone cops have returned…..Harper scores on the botched rundown.

  180. Stickyweb says:

    Too funny Milo. And how did they not get a break? All Star game was Tuesday, Bucs first game was Friday. I’m no manager of the year, but they would have had to try pretty hard not to get a break in there.

  181. Brandie says:

    What’s that about!? I sound like the love child of a dinosaur and a Muppet! Good one Lad!

  182. theplanisworking says:

    And the curse of performing poorly for AJ continues…………..

  183. Naterosboro says:

    Poor 2-2 pitch to Zimmerman by AJ and he singles home another run. 2-0 Nats. AJ not looking good here early on.

  184. Patrick(ri) says:

    Does this sort of thing happen alot to AJ?

  185. Brandie says:

    J-Hay makes me wanna hurl.

  186. Dom says:

    2-0 Bad guys.

  187. Stickyweb says:

    You da man, patton. Thanks.

  188. Jandy says:

    No, he didn’t :(

  189. pattonbb says:

    Agreed, but Pedro still gets the error.

  190. Naterosboro says:

    AJ missing spots like it’s his job today. Hopefully he can get thru this inning, and get things corrected moving forward.

  191. Milo Hamilton says:

    Thanks for that Plan. Watching muted today.

  192. theplanisworking says:


  193. Milo Hamilton says:

    AJ has made a career of bringing these sorts of things on himself. How about don’t give the guy a free base & that never happens.

  194. Naterosboro says:

    Good rebound at bat for AJ vs. Werth. Hit his spot with the fastball and then 2 good sliders to put him away. To bad the 1st 3 batters of the game he looked awful and put himself 2-0 behind.

  195. Brandie says:

    Preach on Milo!

  196. Naterosboro says:

    Aaaand with that, AJ misses his spot (was supposed to be away) out over the plate to Desmond who lines a single to left.

    Is it possible for AJ to throw less than 20 pitches an inning?

  197. Jandy says:


  198. Naterosboro says:

    No sweep. Oh well.

  199. JRay3 says:

    Seriously? Just throwing the ball around all over the park. Unreal.

  200. Milo Hamilton says:

    Starring Walter Matthau.

  201. Sisyphus says:

    Tabatha has swelling the size of a baseball on his forearm and cannot throw, or he would be in right and Harrison at third. That’s from Clint Hurdle.

  202. JRay3 says:

    The Nats were trying to run into outs and we just would not take them.

  203. Stickyweb says:

    WOW! You can’t give anybody, even the Nats 5 or 6 outs in an inning.

  204. JRay3 says:

    And now Mercer boots a routine bouncer….Calling the Bad News Bears…three errors in one inning. No one came ready to play today.

  205. Naterosboro says:

    Aj just with no command of the fastball today. Not normally a recipe for success (unless you are effectively wild).

    Neither is 3 errors in the 1st.

  206. Milo Hamilton says:

    Much like the successes of the first 99 games, this 1st inning has certainly been a team effort.

  207. 21sthebest says:

    His team got to the championship!

  208. Naterosboro says:


  209. Brandie says:

    Hopefully, CH does not chew holes in his tongue watching the defensive farce so far. I blame J-Hay.

  210. pattonbb says:

    Wow, this is pathetic.

    Aj is getting hard. Mercer just committed their 3rd error of the inning. Nats are up 4-0.

  211. Jandy says:

    Oh man, I’m gonna turn off the feed and go do some heavy paperwork. Maybe that will help turn things around. Check in later.

  212. JRay3 says:

    AJ has to wonder, the team scores for Cole, plays great defense for Locke and this is the effort continuously given to me.

  213. Reading says:

    On pace for each Nat to get 8 at bats.

  214. Patrick(ri) says:

    Does it seem to you the right fielder is is the problem, today?

  215. Brandie says:

    Getting ready to drive. Out for a while.

  216. Naterosboro says:

    Gaby better hit 2 out today for that awful throw.

  217. Milo Hamilton says:

    Our pitcher needs to stop acting like a baby.

  218. pattonbb says:

    Taking a peek at twitter, sounds like DK had planned to write a Friday article about Bucs great defense. Guessing he’s changing subjects.

  219. Naterosboro says:

    Gonzalez shouldn’t be allowed to pitch, seeing as he’s going to be suspended for 50 games.

  220. 21sthebest says:

    I’ve thought that for some time. What’s he doing today? Just losing his cool?

  221. Patrick(ri) says:

    Now we will see if Jay Hay’s 3 at bats this month got him ready for this “very” spot start?

  222. Naterosboro says:

    Alright Gaby, you don’t have to take Gio’s head off! But nice single back up the box.

    Now here comes the GIDP.

  223. Chuck H says:

    Did the batting practice pitcher and the warmup infielders start the game by accident?

  224. TJA says:

    Dejan – Is this as ugly in person as what I am “viewing” on Gameday?

  225. pattonbb says:

    Did he just throw a hissy fit in the dugout?

  226. Patrick(ri) says:

    Barmes is up next.

  227. Stickyweb says:

    Morse or Byrd could both start against all pitchers, as well or better than Rios, and cost less in both prospects and $$$. Just pointing out that they’re even better hitting LHP, which is preferable in any acquisition at this point.

    Regardless, I don’t mind 3 platoons if they produce exceptional results (i.e. not Tabby against LHP). I know some think it weakens the bench, but I don’t see it. You still have 3 good bats on the bench waiting for their turn against they’re favored handedness. Plus that’s 1 or 2 ABs per game vs. the 3 or 4 ABs you are getting better results against.

  228. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’m a Yankee fan. I’ve seen the act. Hurdle looked like he wanted to kill him on Saturday.

  229. Stickyweb says:

    I told you Jay-Hey would contirbute to the cause today. cough, cough

  230. Naterosboro says:

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa?! JayHay with a base hit (and a good piece of hitting on a good Gio curve)?!

    Nowwww here’s the GITP (ground into triple play) from Barmes…

  231. Naterosboro says:

    Clint just swinging through 93. Looked horrific in that AB. At least he didnt make 2 outs. If AJ can lay down a bunt here, it’ll at least give Marte a chance at a 2-out RBI.

    With the way this game is going, Starling will then bounce out to SS.

  232. Naterosboro says:

    AJ failing to get a bunt down. Tries the slug-bunt (squares to bunt and pulls back). Fouled it off.

    Then takes back door curve for strike 3. Looked like it went around the plate. This ump better make these calls both ways.

  233. JRay3 says:

    Another pitch that pitch trax shows clearly out of the zone….AJ turns to Winters and says “Really”?

  234. Stickyweb says:

    Winters better dust off the plate and realize where it is, or Buccos got no chance at a comeback.

  235. theplanisworking says:

    Burnett needs to stop this crybaby, immature act now.
    Not exhibiting the qualities of a clubhouse leader at all.

    If he thinks he is being cute…….. he isnt.
    Hurdle needs to stop this crap now.

  236. JRay3 says:

    And Lombardozzi shows the Pirates what good defense can do as he saves the Nats a run with that diving pick.

  237. Naterosboro says:

    Bucs robbed by great play by Lombardozzi. Marte just snake bit right now. I think you can turn this 1 off. Not gonna be a good day at the park for the Bucs. 4-0 Nats through 1.5.

  238. Patrick(ri) says:

    What did the Nats put on their Wheaties this am? Fielding like a playoff team, running literally wild on bases and hitting withrunners on!

  239. Naterosboro says:


    Bit much, eh?

    These guys aren’t robots. They’re going to show emotion every now and then.

    Plus, that could’ve been the Pirates worst played inning all year.

  240. Patrick(ri) says:


  241. Naterosboro says:

    Let’s calm down here as well.

    The Pirates have played very good defense all year.

    They’re going to have a hiccup or two (or three…)

  242. Jim S. says:


  243. SteelAg70 says:


  244. pattonbb says:

    AJ needs to stop the pouting. He had 2 or 3 straight fastballs that he couldn’t get the bunt down with. Winters is calling those pitches strikes. It’s just AJ’s pitches on the outside are also a foot high

  245. Jim S. says:

    Out of position at that.

  246. Naterosboro says:

    Ryan Zimmerman with the cheapest base hit of the season.

  247. JRay3 says:

    The Pirates have saved more runs than any other team I believe this season due to their defense and I fully acknowledge that.

    Was more tipping the cap to Lombardozzi on a great stab.

  248. Patrick(ri) says:

    Momma said there would be days like this. Should have been an easy low-pitch inning.

  249. Milo Hamilton says:

    Whoa, calm down here. Who says it’s not gonna be a good day ? There’s still 7 innings to go. Stop being so negative.

  250. Naterosboro says:

    Whoever the producer is for ROOT Pirate broadcasts needs their head examined. Can you at least switch back to the CF camera for the pitch?

  251. Jim S. says:

    He’s gotten into an ugly habit the last few outings of giving the game away in the first inning.

  252. Stickyweb says:

    According to Pirates Prospects, there’s an opening on the 40 man. #freelambo

  253. Naterosboro says:

    Ahhh gotcha. I thought your premise was that the Pirates didn’t know what good defense looked like (well, today you MAY have a point….)

  254. SteelAg70 says:

    Milo…exactly!! This team is resilient….

  255. 21sthebest says:

    Hey you calm down! Never give up!

  256. Jim S. says:

    Got it. BNB.

  257. theplanisworking says:


    nowhere did I say anything like robots.
    I understand they have emotions, but looking like a baby helps how? Losing your cool helps how? If his antics help, then I am fine with it. I just dont see where acting like that helps.

    But please feel free to show me how it would help.

  258. Naterosboro says:

    I can see the script.

    Now, you may be right, but with the way the 1st 2 have gone, I’d bet on the L today.

  259. Jim S. says:

    Everything worked out splendidly for AJ last year, for the most part. But, not this year. He also has not pitched as well this year, either.

  260. theplanisworking says:


  261. Naterosboro says:

    Taking out his frustration on a cooler is better than taking it back out on the mound.

    And I think you may be the only 1 who thinks he looked “like a baby”.

  262. Jim S. says:

    Isn’t that nice? We get beat by Andre the Giant (Bartolo Colon) a couple weeks ago, and now Gio Gonzalez. They could both be sitting the rest of the year any day now.

  263. Keith says:

    Hey, does anyone have any info about the cool black and gold neckware some of the Bucs (McCutchen, Alvarez, etc.) wear? Dejan, any insight?

  264. JRay3 says:

    Would be more than happy to take a few more of those from Gio…just have to try and chip away today.

  265. Bob Hasis says:

    Gaby and JHay single to start the second. Suppose Barmes gets a single or walk so that we have bases loaded with no outs.

    What do we do with AJ?

    Bunt or hit away? In either case trying to avoid a DP, especially one that would cause a force at home.

    Curiously we are now in the same circumstance here in the third. What do we do?

  266. Naterosboro says:

    The pitch went around the plate. That’s a legit gripe by AJ.

  267. JRay3 says:

    Hope Martin has a three run HR in him?

  268. Jim S. says:

    The Pirates have turned the highest % of balls put in play into outs in the majors. Their defense is good, today aside.

  269. Jim S. says:

    Time for the Animal House line about not giving up now?

  270. Naterosboro says:

    ROOT just flashed a stat: Pirates are 17 for last 112 w/ RISP (.152 avg.) and their record is 7-7.

    And, make that 17 for last 113.

    Good job Russell.

  271. theplanisworking says:

    Milo Hamilton says:
    July 25, 2013 at 1:09 pm
    “Our pitcher needs to stop acting like a baby.”

    I am not trying to throw Milo under the bus.
    And, I dont see you coming after him about his statement.
    Selective a bit?

    I stand by my original statement.
    Also, AJ is a team leader. He needs to show that.

  272. Naterosboro says:

    It was totally over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

  273. Stickyweb says:

    Can we trade for this Lomardozzi guy? I don’t even care if he can hit, it looks like he saves 4 runs a game with his defense.

  274. Naterosboro says:

    Lombardozzi robs Alvarez of a run scoring single and actually makes a diving stop on a line drive and gets the DP.

    Don’t turn it off if you don’t want to. I’m just trying to save others time.

  275. Milo Hamilton says:

    At least Vic Black’s mom is going to see him pitch today.

  276. Stickyweb says:

    Yeah, they almost look like a MLB team that doesn’t want to get swept in a 4 game series at home.

  277. SteelAg70 says:

    It’s not over yet people…WAAAYYYYYY from being over….

  278. Naterosboro says:

    Sorry, didn’t see his post.

    Not trying to be selective, yours was the 1st I saw.

    So to you, Milo and everyone else who thinks AJ was “acting like a baby” I disagree with you whole-heartedly.

    A guy is allowed to be frustrated. And to show that frustration however he so chooses. Especially when he and his teammates performed so poorly.

    Ok. I gotta go. Enjoy the rest of the game. Hopefully they pull this out. As you can see from my “negative” (I call them realistic) posts below, I do not think that’s going to happen today.

  279. Stickyweb says:

    Bob, I’m a little late to the party, but have AJ swing away. With 4 run lead the Nats would have played the infield back and taken easy, traditional DP and allowed run to score. Moot point now though.

  280. theplanisworking says:

    I hope you have rally caps to pass out………….

  281. Stickyweb says:

    True dat, Steel. Gio’s pitch count is way up, 67 through 3 innings. Get a couple runs off him and work on the bullpen the last 3 innings. And it’s not like the Bucs aren’t hitting the ball a little.

  282. Milo Hamilton says:

    maybe it’s lack of sleep or something, but Gio’s been losing his mind on occasion today also.

  283. theplanisworking says:

    Barmes with a hit!!!!


  284. JRay3 says:

    Pirates getting ample opportunities to get to Gio today….nice little rip by Barmes for the double.

  285. Stickyweb says:

    Jay-Hey strikes out swinging. I told you that guy shouldn’t be in the lineup. I’m getting whiplash with this guy. Barmes double, YEAH. Let’s get 2 runs in here. PLEASE!!!!!!

  286. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Line 1: 100 Under

    Line 2: 100 Over

  287. Jandy says:

    for sure

  288. Patrick(ri) says:

    Gio is doing his best to help.

  289. SteelAg70 says:

    Exactly Sticky…..get to the Nats BP and we have a shot to pull this out….

  290. Milo Hamilton says:

    There you go Plan, throwing me under the bus again ! :)

  291. Patrick(ri) says:

    Or else he is just setting up the dp?

  292. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I said that yesterday.

    This one is interesting and far from a Sunday lineup, IMO.

  293. Stickyweb says:

    CORRECTION: work on the bullpen the last 4 innings. or 5.

  294. Jandy says:

    Popping in for a few seconds. Nice to see Barmes and Gaby hitting the ball…ok…where’s everyone else???

  295. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Not has much as his bat in the lineup does….

    Someone said up top, option him and bring up AP and Im not an AP fan.

  296. Jandy says:

    pass one here..

  297. theplanisworking says:

    Sorry Milo………. guess I was a bad Hippo……

  298. Jandy says:

    Ok that’s one.

  299. SteelAg70 says:

    Nice job by AJ….

  300. Bob Hasis says:

    You’re right, which presumes he wouldn’t have hit to the pitcher.

    Anyway he just did get a RBI

  301. Jandy says:

    Marte needs to sit a spell. Grrrr!

  302. theplanisworking says:

    Welcome back.

    Grab some Hippo wings.

  303. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Sounds nice, but it still snows..

    No good for me

  304. SteelAg70 says:

    Marte is definitely in a big funk right now…uggghhh…

  305. Patrick(ri) says:

    So, mlb umps are the best in the world. The pay must be awful.

  306. Stickyweb says:

    I’m listening on radio. How’d that check swing on Marte look? If it was bad, Bud Selig needs to check Mike Winters’ bank account. As for AJ, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean he’s not out to get you.

  307. twentytwo22 says:

    Defense has been the difference in the game. Gonzalez has pitched worse than Burnett. This game is winnable.

  308. Milo Hamilton says:

    At some point today, they’re going to get the tying run up to the plate.

  309. Milo Hamilton says:

    82 pitches in 4 innings for Gio.

  310. Stickyweb says:

    True about getting it past the pitcher. Serendipity that he ends up driving in their only run (oops, I meant first run) anyway.

  311. JRay3 says:

    Four pitch inning for AJ, as he has settled down. Still time to chip away.

  312. JRay3 says:

    Marte went, it was a good call.

  313. Jandy says:

    No, can’t stay….working on deep paperwork stuff.
    I’ll pop in, in a bit :)

  314. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    You are correct, he’s no longer the GM, has been promoted, I believe it started this year, but I really don’t care.

    BTW, his kid is a WR for the 49ers, the one that blew 2 punt returns 2 years ago in the NFC championship. Fast little dude though.

  315. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  316. JRay3 says:

    Another good start to the inning with Mercer doubling into corner, middle of lineup has to get him in.

  317. Patrick(ri) says:

    I remember Ted Williams saying he should have played another year, since expansion would put 50 second rate pitchers on rosters and he could have had another .400 season. It occurs to me with all the expansion that has happened since 1960, the talent pool of umpires has been diluted, perhaps beyond repair? Just kidding, I guess.

    An often suggested solution would be replays. If that happens, invest in vendor companies as games will take 5-6 hours!

  318. Stickyweb says:

    Screw Alexi, Jordy’s the MAN! Lets get him home Cutch. No? Let’s get him home Martin.

  319. Stickyweb says:


  320. Patrick(ri) says:

    Unfortunately, that means some will be in scoring position.

  321. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I understand your point, but a guy like Rios has proven himself at the MLB level. Lambo, obviously, has not.

    It may take him a month to be worth his weight. Not many pull off a Puig’s start of their career.

  322. Milo Hamilton says:

    A-Rod is currently being re-re-evaluated. Presumably by Dr. Vinnie Boombatz this time.

  323. Stickyweb says:

    Walk and Brown are going crazy on Bryce on the radio, for swinging at the first pitch he saw after the first two outs took 3 pitches and his struggling pitcher just ran down the line.

  324. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Not surprised with MM not available. Shouldn’t have used him the game before last with a bigger than save lead, then he warmed up, sat down, warmed up, pitched last night. All the makings of a day off.

  325. JRay3 says:

    Sac fly drought continues, Nats were conceding the run anything but the strikeout there.

  326. Thundercrack says:

    Did Greg Brown just say that the Pirates haven’t had a Sac Fly RBI since the middle of June?!

  327. Stickyweb says:

    OK, it’s up to Day-dro

  328. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    The rest had 4 days off, those guys didn’t.

    Seriously, a game here or there will not make or break the season. Give them a day every once in awhile to relax, slow down, and regroup.

  329. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Streaky at times….fits right in.

  330. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yea & that one was hit to the 1st baseman. Haven’t hit one to the outfield since mid May.

  331. Stickyweb says:

    Pouting, whining, crying or not, the way AJ’s cruising, he could pitch 9 innings. Or 10 or 11. ;-)

  332. Patrick(ri) says:

    I thought it was one since May 27th. Seriously.

  333. JRay3 says:

    The Nationals do not look interested in winning today, unfortunately the Bucs have not yet been able to seize on that.

  334. Milo Hamilton says:

    This game could be tied with them just making outs.

  335. Patrick(ri) says:

    I love Jay Bell, but you have to wonder???

  336. theplanisworking says:

    Who is this Lombardozzi guy???

  337. Stickyweb says:

    Yeah, they’ve been saying that since the AS break. In a game of stats, that is an incredible one. And it’s not like they’re getting hits in those situations instead, yet they’re still winning at a ridiculous pace

  338. Stickyweb says:

    Damn, should have added “knock on wood”. How about a strikeout on LaRoche, AJ?

  339. theplanisworking says:


    Thanks. Guess I should have added “I dont care”.

    Good one, Dom.

  340. Thundercrack says:

    A lot of the players are the same. We’ve had a few different coaches.

    A lot of these players don’t seem to get the concept of ‘situational hitting’.
    Or they stink.

  341. Patrick(ri) says:

    Werth doesn’t know it, but that was one of the umps best calls.

  342. Patrick(ri) says:

    Now who is whining. Those were pretty good pitches.

  343. Stickyweb says:

    Nice job AJ!!! It’s all set up for a comeback by the Buccos.

  344. JRay3 says:

    AJ wiggles out of that mess, hope that momentum can carry over to the offense.

  345. Jandy says:

    I’d love to have Werth in right field for the Buccos

  346. Jandy says:

    2 K’s and a ground out…nice.

  347. theplanisworking says:

    That was the correct thing to do ……….. Hurdle getting in AJ’s grill.

  348. JRay3 says:

    Gaby with the 3-3 day against the LHP.

  349. SteelAg70 says:

    THAT’S the AJ we’ve come to know and love… :)

  350. Lad9 says:

    Greg Brown just said that CH jumped in AJ’s face big time when he came off the mound. Said that they have never seen CH do it that vehemently before. Anyone see it?

  351. Stickyweb says:

    What was Greg Brown talking about with Hurdle getting into AJ’s face after he got out of that bases loaded jam? Didn’t sound good. Please give anything you hear?

  352. Jandy says:

    Is Gaby 3 for 3 today?

  353. SteelAg70 says:

    What’s gotten in to Gaby??!

  354. Jandy says:

    I just asked that below…thanks JRay :)

  355. theplanisworking says:

    I did.
    Something to do with AJ disrespecting Hurdle’s decision to get a reliever warming up.
    It was the correct thing for Hurdle to do.

  356. Stickyweb says:

    I love this new RF we got, Jay-Hey all the way!!!

  357. JRay3 says:

    JHAY! Two run shot his 1st HR of year and Buccos down just one!

  358. Jandy says:

    determination. He wants to win it all :)

  359. theplanisworking says:


    AAAA Harrison with a HR !!!! :)

  360. SteelAg70 says:


  361. Jandy says:

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!! woooottt!!

  362. Stickyweb says:

    He’s facing a LHP, that’s all.

  363. Jandy says:

    I just knew he’d make me eat my words…thanks JHay :)

  364. Patrick(ri) says:

    Yeah, this Jay Hay really stinks. Couple more hits and he will lead the team.

  365. Lad9 says:

    J-Hay! THere is our power hitting right fielder. :)

  366. theplanisworking says:

    Did you put hot sauce on them?? ;)

  367. Lad9 says:

    I hear ya Jandy. Same with me. I think I would like to go to Vegas with CH right about now and follow him around. He is on a roll!

  368. theplanisworking says:

    Need an aspirin?? ;)

  369. Sisyphus says:

    LOL, no, not kinky, it was a forum for discussing politics.

  370. twentytwo22 says:

    Ok. Last year in Washington Harrison hit a 2 run HR against Gonzalez in the 7th to make it 4-3 Nationals. Evan Meek came into the game and gave up 3 runs. Keep Meek out of the game and we have a chance here!

  371. Jim S. says:

    Happy to eat my hat for saying not only should he not be in the lineup, but he should not be on the 25 man. Keep proving me wrong, JHay!

    I didn’t even have time to get on here this afternoon, but I had to do it after ripping JHay this morning multiple times.

    This game is not over, thanks to our new Silver Slugger in RF. No trades for RF, please NH! We have found the new Clemente!

  372. SteelAg70 says:


  373. Jim S. says:

    Me, too! And, I’m glad to do it. Humble pie can be quite tasty!

  374. Stickyweb says:

    He’s on a roll and I’ll bet he’s a fun guy to hang with. Good combo for Vegas, baby!

  375. JRay3 says:

    Continues to show his value to the team as he has hit LHP all year long.

  376. Milo Hamilton says:


  377. Jim S. says:

    This is what he does when he bats against lefties.

  378. Jandy says:

    I would have if I could have :P

  379. Sisyphus says:

    .600 to .650 is okay for a very good defensive shortstop. It’s pretty bad for a second baseman.

  380. Jandy says:

    especially with hot sauce ;)

  381. Patrick(ri) says:

    jH is 4 out of 6, with 2 home runs against Gio.

  382. JRay3 says:

    Marte with his 30th SB of the year, third best in all of baseball.

  383. Jandy says:

    OK boys, now HOLD ‘em!!!

  384. theplanisworking says:

    Have to go for the rest of the day.
    You guys are in charge of completing this comeback.

    Save me some hot sauce. ;)

  385. Sisyphus says:

    The Pirates did pretty much that in 1992, plus their third basemen weren’t very good, their first basemen were okay, but below average, and their second baseman was a great fielder who was a black hole at the plate.

  386. Thundercrack says:

    I am not watching the game but did read some of the comments on the blog.

    I really like AJ and think he is a good pitcher. But some of his ‘antics’ this year and his heavy reliance on getting strikeout -over more pitch efficiency – is rubbing me the wrong way.

    But I do hope they resign him for another year if he chooses to play after this season

  387. Jandy says:

    YOu got it Hipposter…enjoy the afternoon :*

  388. JohninOshkosh says:

    Why do the fans do that shark thing with Bernadina ? I don’ t know the background on that.

  389. The Gunner says:

    I like the idea of AJ coming back but, realistically, do you think the BMTIB will pony up & spend the money to keep him here?

  390. Jandy says:

    NOW ~ our BATS have to come alive!

  391. Jim S. says:

    Amazing how a guy who is not a switch hitter can simultaneously be in a hot streak AND a slump. That is Gaby. He hits LHP well, and is struggling badly against RHP.

  392. Jim S. says:


    Let’s get more guys to make us eat our words. If that is all it takes, I’m up for insulting everyone everyday.

  393. Thundercrack says:

    I think they might. Especially if it is for a year —and doesn’t include a no-trade clause.

    I don’t think he’ll expect to get the same money as he did when he signed that contract with the Yankees.

  394. DK: Hey, did anyone here see the Clint-A.J. thing?

    This place is 5 miles high, and there’s no way to catch such a thing from up here.

    If you did, I could use some details or, better yet, a video clip from a DVR.

    Thanks in advance!

  395. Stickyweb says:

    Good idea Jim. I’ll start. Pedro has no chance of hitting a HR right here.

  396. Jandy says:

    Heck yeah! Jordy stinks. Mercer stinks. Alvarez stinks…who did I miss?

  397. Jim S. says:

    I think this guy, Stammen, went to my alma mater – University of Dayton. Not exactly a school known for producing MLB players. I think we have another relief pitcher kicking around as well somewhere. Jerry something or other.

    Knock him out, Bucs!!

  398. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’m calling a Pedro bomb here.

  399. Steelag70 says:

    Is Russell taking the day off at the plate today??

  400. JohninOshkosh says:

    Hurdle just got thrown by Diaz.

  401. Jim S. says:

    Cutch, for sure. Oh, wait. He doesn’t need prodding.

    Walker stinks, Barmes, JHay (just for good measure), Tabby, Snider.

    That ought to hold us for a couple of days. Don’t want to get greedy with this new found power.

  402. Stickyweb says:

    OMG, somebody tell me what just happened on that play with Pedro. This is so frustrating just listening to the game

  403. JRay3 says:

    Wow what a crew MLB has thrown out here for this series, there is nothing better in the minor league ranks?

  404. JRay3 says:

    La Paz ruled Alvarez made a move towards second base after running though the bag and he was tagged out.

    La Paz is also the same guy who saw Walker tag Ramos last night.

  405. florida steeler says:

    Diaz is a horrible umpire–wonder why he is there??

  406. Patrick(ri) says:

    These teams are well matched in the “bone headed ” category today.

  407. Stickyweb says:

    You’re a Flyer, Jim? 2 of my sisters went there back in the day. The football team used to play in the Amos Alonzo Stagg bowl seemingly each year

  408. JohninOshkosh says:

    Diaz said Pedro made turn to second. Desmond threw to first and Pete was called out while standing on bag. Hurdle argued and got tossed.

  409. Jim S. says:

    That’s the spirit, Sticky!

  410. JohninOshkosh says:

    Sorry, thought his name was Diaz and Pedro was off the bag.

  411. Tom P. says:

    I wonder if that is a make up call for last night.

  412. Patrick(ri) says:

    Even bad umpires can make the right call. For once, I am endorsing wehner’s call.

  413. 21sthebest says:

    Who’s going to babysit A.J.?

  414. Jandy says:

    How can someone be called out when standing on the bag????

  415. AJS says:

    Are they doing that again? No the first time that has happened this year. They missed a complete out the other night because they were showing a guy in the pen standing around!

  416. Jandy says:

    OK so how many SO’s does Adam LaDouch have today?

  417. JohninOshkosh says:

    my bad, Jandy. I noted it up above. Pedro was off the bag because he didnt think he had made turn to second. Sorry for confusion.

  418. Dom says:

    AJ’s ERA is down to 2.96

  419. JRay3 says:


  420. JRay3 says:

    Only given up one earned run today.

  421. Jandy says:

    ha! good for the line I took.

  422. Stickyweb says:

    You missed Jones. He stinks and can’t pinch hit at all. You know he’ll be coming up in the next couple of innings.

  423. Jandy says:


  424. Jandy says:

    Ohh ok. Well, like it was said, even up for last night.
    Still bullcrap!

  425. Jag7 says:

    2 of my brothers went to Dayton! it was me 2nd choice, lost out to John Carroll. Go Flyers.

  426. Jandy says:

    Gaby. He kicked Marte’s azz when he needed it.

  427. Stickyweb says:

    AJ just went over his line, so I lose that one. Happily. If you told me in the 2nd inning that would lose, I’d have laughed in your face. looking good on the LaRoche under.

  428. Jandy says:

    Yeah I lost that one too.

  429. Stickyweb says:

    Just noticed your “mis-spelling” Jandy. Missed it the first time. Someone’s a little salty today, eh? Good one.

  430. JohninOshkosh says:

    Both skippers given the bum’s rush, today. Worst thing for CH is he has to watch the game with the world’s worst broadcasting team.

  431. Jandy says:

    No, wait, I went over :)

  432. Jandy says:

    haha, good eye, Sticky ;)
    I couldn’t resist!

  433. Jandy says:

    Rats, I have to go, have a stinking meeting. I’ll catch up with the end result later.
    C’mon Bucs, pull this one outta your bums for the Skipper!
    later, Loonies!

  434. Milo Hamilton says:

    Sorry I missed it work got in the way. There are some pretty good descriptions sprinkled here throughout. I really thought Hurdle was annoyed with the way AJ approached getting ready after the delay on Saturday. He’s shown up teammates & coaches more than once this season. I remember one long glare he shot at Marte during a home game earlier this season.

  435. JRay3 says:

    It is Laz Diaz I believe, typed in frustration above.

  436. Bob Hasis says:

    So in the case of ARod, are Budster Selig and Brian Cashman & the Yankees, allowing the inmate to run the asylum.

    ARod has declared he is planning to play on Friday, irrespective of the legal problems he is facing.

    There is way too much happening there which represents a critical detriment to baseball and its diminishing integrity.

    Answers, decisions and conclusions need to be adamantly announced

  437. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Everytime I see the name I think of a STD.

  438. Milo Hamilton says:

    Boy you got that right. And I used to like Bob Carpenter. I swear sometimes the “other guy”, Santangelo in this case, brings down the whole broadscast.

  439. Sisyphus says:

    A left handed pitcher.

  440. Stickyweb says:

    Funny, Wisc

  441. JohninOshkosh says:

    Gotcha JRay. I know the feeling. I wasn’t sure about the name,

  442. Stickyweb says:

    Wouldn’t quite say the inmate’s running the asylum. If Bud suspends him, he won’t play Friday. For some reason MLB’s not announcing any more suspensions, other than Cryin’ Ryan.

  443. Jason81 says:


    From what the ROOT feed caught, A.J. motioned towards the bullpen, essentially telling them to sit down. Went down the dugout steps and Hurdle was right in A.J.’s face. Looked like Clint was telling A.J. that it wasn’t his decision whether he stayed in the game or not and he didn’t approve of the hand gestures towards his own teammates. Appeared to calm down rather quickly with Hurdle joking with Burnett shortly after.

    Thinking about it a bit more, you’d have to imagine Harrison’s home run actually kept A.J. in the game anyhow. If there were runners on base when Burnett’s spot in the order came up, I have a hard time believing Hurdle would have let him hit, unless it was to bunt.

    DK: Thanks, Jason.

  444. pattonbb says:

    Its a stupid rule, but if Pedro so much as took a half step towards 2nd, it’s the right call. No doubt it was the make up call. I hate make up calls.

    Think Clint and Davey are sitting together somewhere between the clubhouses, sharing a Gatorade?

  445. Lad9 says:

    Thank you Hippo. In and out due to work. Good day to have a pond….

  446. Milo Hamilton says:

    Like for instance, I didn’t like Greg Gumbel at all with Phil Simms. But I like him just fine with Dan Dierdorf. I like Jim Nantz with Nick Faldo, but not much with Phil Simms. There’s a mathematical equation in there somewhere.

  447. Lad9 says:

    I think he would be a blast.

  448. Lad9 says:

    Some anti-psychotic meds if I believed that…

  449. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Just getting back……..Do I see that right, Josh Harrison with a 2 run HR?


  450. JohninOshkosh says:

    I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes with different sports. I like Wayne Larrivee with the Packers but not so much on Big Ten basketball. Odd.

    MASN has done no favors for Carpenter. Before Santangelo, I think he was paired with Ron Dibble.

  451. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Anybody but Dierdork…….can’t stand him.

  452. Jason81 says:

    Johnson might be busy wondering why there are a bunch of empty boxes in his office.

  453. Stickyweb says:

    I don’t see how it was a make up call if Pedro actually turned towards 2B? Everyone seems to agree he made a turn, and as stupid as the rule may be, he needs to know to get back to 1B if he took a step towards 2nd.

  454. JRay3 says:

    Well there is the ball game. Not often you see a pitcher with a 2.96 ERA sport a 4-8 record.

    Before the series started I would have gladly taken 3 out of 4 from Washington.

    Move on to Miami for the weekend set.

  455. Dave G says:

    Really, Snider? What should have been a shoestring catch turns out to be a crash-and-miss dive.

  456. Bob Hasis says:

    My point exactly; Bud hasn’t announced a suspension and AROD is announcing he expects to play. And Cashman is mute.

  457. Stickyweb says:

    Wlecome back Ryan. That J-Hey HR is the highlight. Unfortunately the lowlights are too many to list.

  458. JohninOshkosh says:


  459. Bob Hasis says:

    Great move CH

  460. SteelAg70 says:

    PLEASE NH…get us a RF!!!!!!

  461. Bizrow says:

    When JHay hits a dinger, we should probably win the game

  462. Milo Hamilton says:

    Chuck Noll went to Dayton.

  463. Jim S. says:

    For the 2nd AJ start in a row (or is it 3?), the game was lost in the first inning. Certainly, it was not his fault that the defense went all “Keystone Cops” on him. But, he struggled with command early, and the Nats jumped on all of our problems.

    As JRay said, we would have gladly taken a 3-1 series before this one started. In fact, I would have gladly takent a 4-3 start to this roadtrip as well. Barring a miracle comeback in the 9th, that is how it looks.

    Fear not, St. Louis will eventually play another road game and we will get back home to face them after disposing of Miami.

  464. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Well, 3/4 on the road ain’t bad…

    Can’t win em all.

    Need some help from whoever is playing the Cards.

  465. Bob Hasis says:

    I guess Snider was playing deep to prevent the double; conversely he should have been in to prevent the equally damaging single.

    Oh well CH can’t think of everything

  466. Parrothead01 says:

    Can’t hit and can’t field. What a tough position to be in to be a supposed corner outfielder. No way that should be a triple . Heck I see fifty year old men make that make that Kay routinely on the softball field and a major league rightfielder can’t. Should have been an error.

  467. Dave G says:

    CH was tossed a couple of innings ago.

  468. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hooray for Vic Black. And his mom.

  469. SteelAg70 says:

    Nice to see Vic Black get some work…

  470. Bob Hasis says:

    Three of four isn’t bad, however #4 was sitting there to be had

  471. Bob Hasis says:

    Yeah to the runway

  472. Jim S. says:

    Yes, he did Milo. John Gruden also. I believe that was one distinction for the school in football – most Super Bowl-winning coaches as alumni.

    Eastern IL is 2nd – Payton, Shannahan.

  473. Jim S. says:

    Yes, I’m a Flyer Sticky. Had a great time there. Good school, and getting better all the time.

  474. Jim S. says:

    Thanks, Jag. I had some Cleveland buddies at school that had considered J Carroll.

  475. Milo Hamilton says:

    Very concerned about this weekend against Miami. It would be very easy to get caught looking ahead. Plus, tomorrow is game #101.

  476. Jim S. says:

    That was a great moment last night where they showed him greeting his mom at the stadium. She had just gotten in from TX. Good for him. You only get to have that moment once. Very often, moms do the heaviest lifting as far as getting kids to sporting events after school, etc. That is the case at my house, for sure. But, to be able to hug your mom on the first day on the team – awesome moment!

  477. JRay3 says:

    I can think of five very good reasons not to be worried that tomorrow represents game #101:
    Liriano, Locke, AJ, Morton, Cole.

  478. Jim S. says:

    And, there’s no quit in this team.

  479. TJA says:

    a good point, as always, milo, but i think (and hope) they know how important this miami series is, too. they needs wins to keep pace with the red birds. also, may gaby has a big series vs. his former club.

  480. SteelAg70 says:

    Dang Cutch!!

  481. Milo Hamilton says:

    Those are good ones. Until I see a 3 game winning streak after game 101, I’m reserving the right to keep bringing it up. :)

  482. JRay3 says:

    Amazing how many times this year in games that you think they are out of it that they somehow send tying or winning run back up to plate.

  483. JRay3 says:

    I hear you…hopefully that will happen as 12 of the next 17 games for Pirates are against the Marlins and Rockies.

  484. Jim S. says:

    Pulling a reverse of Monday and Wednesday, sort of.

  485. Stickyweb says:

    A lot different kicking Marte’s butt and even saying a peep to AJ, for someone of Gaby’s talent/experience.

  486. Jim S. says:

    Miami is not half bad most nights latelly. Been giving teams a hard way to go.

  487. Milo Hamilton says:

    Careful, remember Cubs & Padres. That was going to fix everything.

  488. JRay3 says:

    Wow, tying run in scoring position single could tie it.

  489. Jim S. says:

    Krol is from my town, Naperville, IL. And he went to the same HS as my daughters go to. Played for the same travel club as my 11 year old. Ok, I’m all out of connections.

    As with Stammen, hammer him!

  490. SeanAY says:

    Good, now we’re only relying on Jose Tabata to pull this one out.

    Should be a cinch.

  491. Bizrow says:

    One time Jose

  492. Stickyweb says:

    Seriously, this is coming down to J-Hey with the bases loaded and 2 out in the 9th? I love baseball.

  493. Milo Hamilton says:

    Leaving the bases loaded would be apropo.

  494. Dom says:

    No need to fret. My man Josh Harrison is up.

  495. JRay3 says:

    SOmeone tell DK to update the score up top….TIE GAME, JHAY does it again!

  496. Stickyweb says:

    I just got goose bumps with Brown’s call on that hit. Not a big fan of his but this is incredible.

  497. pattonbb says:

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!???!!!!

  498. SeanAY says:

    Well I’ll be a son of a gun.

  499. Patrick(ri) says:

    No way you can play this guy. He clearly can’t hit.

  500. Bizrow says:


  501. Dom says:

    Nope. This is for real.

  502. JRay3 says:

    Wow, this team just continues to amaze!

  503. Milo Hamilton says:

    This is that game in Anaheim all over again.

  504. SeanAY says:

    I’m now very disappointed I’m only watching ESPN Gametracker and not listening to SiriusXM.

  505. TJA says:


  506. Dom says:

    Check my post at 4:03. I knew it all along.

  507. Bizrow says:

    This one, we gotta win, someway, somehow

  508. Stickyweb says:

    C’mon GI Jones. Show us the 2nd half will be beter for you.

  509. SeanAY says:

    Wait wait wait, the feed is behind…I’ll be able to hear the call!

  510. JRay3 says:

    In one game JHay has lifted his batting average 113 points. Now up to .238.

  511. Jim S. says:

    My new favorite Bucco!

  512. JRay3 says:

    I witnessed that game in person and afterwards I said to myself I will watch this team play all 27 outs. Today is another prime example why!

  513. TJA says:

    One of my favorites was the Bucs/Dodgers on Memorial Day…in what year was that…1988? can’t recall the year…but it was a dandy of a comeback.

  514. pattonbb says:

    I was thinking the same thing, Milo. Remember they rolled off 5 or 6 wins in a row after that game.

  515. SteelAg70 says:

    I remember that game too…early 90’s I think…

  516. Patrick(ri) says:

    That is what happens when you only get to the plate 12 times all year.

  517. Jim S. says:

    I can’t believe you guys all doubted him. Only Jandy, Sticky and I had faith in him.

  518. TJA says:

    I really think this team is for real…W or L today. Ok, I have to run to a meeting…keep it going Bucs and it is good to be back with you fellow Loonies.

  519. Bob Hasis says:

    All of our native talent just being wasted away at Indy

  520. Patrick(ri) says:

    You jest? I have gotten in trouble rooting for him for two years, even with his warts.

  521. Stickyweb says:

    You know what’s funny? I typed a comment an hour or so ago (when it was 4-3, not 7-3) saying I hope the game goes 18 innings so Mike Winters misses his flight and the next 3 flights after that, but I just went looking for it and I must never have submitted it. Freakin funny.

  522. Bob Hasis says:

    Remember the Sunday game with the Angels. Eerily similar

  523. Patrick(ri) says:

    This ump just will notncall anything below the waist.

  524. Stickyweb says:

    Sing it brother Jim. Not for nothing, does anyone know how to delete a comment on this board? ;-)

  525. Milo Hamilton says:

    Or not.

  526. Jim S. says:

    Yes, I surely jest. We were the 3 who ripped the decision to play him today. I figured Tabby couldn’t go, but I still think it points to the need for an upgrade on our bench.

    I still don’t think he is a very good player, and the past few years have proven that. But, I have to give him credit for coming up very large today. He really came through, and I can’t in good faith rip him again for at least a couple of weeks.

    Hey, I have my opinions. But, I am happy to say I was wrong about JHay today. He may not be done with the heroics today.

  527. Dom says:


  528. Stickyweb says:

    So your saying we should bring up Ivan DeJesus and Lambo? I agree.

  529. Stickyweb says:


  530. Kevin says:

    I think Harper just hit a homerun on a pitch right over the plate. Hoping my mlb boxscore thingy is lying to me. :|

  531. Bizrow says:


  532. diehard says:

    JHay did have a good game today. Happens just often enough when he’s up to make someone think he’s worthwhile in the longer term. It was a great day for him. He’s happy. Now send him back to Indy.

  533. The Gunner says:


    Looks like our boy Josh Harrison had a pretty good day.

  534. Milo Hamilton says:

    Nice bullpen the last couple days.

  535. Stickyweb says:

    Guess AJ shouldn’t have hit Harper to start the game, huh?

  536. Patrick(ri) says:

    Credit to Harper. He was ready, “hanging slider,” or not, and he produced. A fine player.

  537. Steelag70 says:

    Dang it Morris!!!

  538. Steelag70 says:

    BP a little shaky this series…

  539. Arriba Wilver says:


  540. Stickyweb says:

    So if Hurdle stays true to form, J-Hey will sit tomorrow. Has anyone else noticed that when he gives a guy a day off, they seem to be really hot to that point? Or is it my imagination.

    Also, does he have some fetish with bringing in a LH reliever when a LH started and a RH reliever when a RH started? Why not switch things up on the hitters?

    OK, rant over.

  541. Milo Hamilton says:

    OK. 60-40. Two games better than last year (58-42). That’s right, just two. On to Miami tomorrow. It’s Opening Day ! I’m ready, are they ?

  542. Dom says:

    I know the Cards don’t have that great of a farm system but if the White Sox are going to nix a deal that would have sent their #3 overall minor leaguer in exchange for Alexei Ramirez then what would we have to give up to obtain him?

  543. Kevin says:

    can we blame this loss on Pedro?… three times with 2 guys on each time and all he does is strike out, line into unassisted DP, and walk. It was a great comeback but did it need to be?

  544. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Good young group. Talented.

  545. Milo Hamilton says:

    Bullpen since Grilli injury:

    3.1 IP / 8 H / 7 ER / 2 HR / 20.25 ERA

  546. Bob Hasis says:

    That’s ok, as long as AP isn’t bypassed.

  547. Bob Hasis says:

    He did and I’m proud of him. He just likes to play ball

  548. Thundercrack says:

    I blame the starting pitchers for not pitching complete games.

  549. Kevin says:

    if grilli was available (hypothetically), do you think Melancon comes in to pitch the bottom of the 9th in this game?

  550. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    The important question…….what were the final Line scores?

  551. Stickyweb says:

    Too much. Forget him and them. He’s not worth our #20 prospect. Can’t J-Hey play SS? ;-)

  552. The Gunner says:

    As long as he contributes, I am OK with him. He is certainly a better option than Brandon Inge.

  553. Bob Hasis says:

    WE are more than adequate at SS – even I it must be Barmes.

    WE have 4 middle infielders who can do the job o Walker, Mercer, Barmes and JHay.

    RF as was glaringly again proven today remains THE weak spot. Even last night, the Fort helped dispel the fears at C

  554. Stickyweb says:

    Yup, if he could aim those frozen ropes just a little better, he would have been 1 for 2 and reached base 2 out of 3 times.

    (apologies on the sarcasm if it was more of a humpback liner, but I think I remember them saying it was hard hit)

  555. Arriba Wilver says:

    Did we just take 3 of 4? I forget. :-)

  556. The Gunner says:

    The Bucs don’t need Alexei Ramirez

  557. Arriba Wilver says:

    Wise man, diehard.

  558. Stickyweb says:

    As long as MM wasn’t used in the past 2 games, Yes, he pitches the 9th. But Hurdle used him with a 4 run lead 2 games ago, knowing a Liriano/Strasburg match up was going to be a close ball game the next day, so who knows.

  559. Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    Bummer, looks like I called for a lose before it actually happened and missed a good comeback.

  560. Stickyweb says:

    Can’t blame us for being greedy, A-Dub. It’s just our nature. Starting the series, none of us dreamed of a 4 game sweep and any one of us would have taken 3 of 4. But when you win those first 3, things change.

    BTW, remember all those 4 games series early in the year where we lost the 1st game then took the last 3? If we’re gonna have a bizarro 2nd half, this kind of series is the best to have, if you know what I mean.

  561. Ghost says:

    Hope A.J. makes good with everybody. Not because I have a problem with him showing his fiery competitiveness, but because I worry. About what Neil the Control Freak might do. Like jettison A.J. at the end of the year. A.J. is A.J. and you get something like the what happened in the 6th as part of the package. From what’s been reported, seems like Clint has it all under control. Hope there’s no lasting repercussions.

  562. Stickyweb says:

    Nope, just another ho-hum loss. On to Miami.

  563. twentytwo22 says:

    Bullpen is obviously weaker.

    They look stupid for having Melancon pitch in a 4 run game on Tuesday. They held back Watson because he was the closer today and he could have pitched the 10th against Bernadina and Harper.

    Morris has spoiled two 9th inning comebacks – the Marte HR vs Chicago and this one.

    I hate that we have a lineup of players you have to PH for. In the 9th inning we needed to pinch hit for a guy who pinch hit for a guy in the 8th but couldn’t and was left with a mismatch Jones vs lefty.

  564. Stickyweb says:

    Exactly, Thunder. Cy Young would be ashamed of these slackers!

  565. Arriba Wilver says:


  566. Bob Hasis says:

    The two guys who I see hustle the most are JHay and Presley *, after Cutch. *(I’ll include Fort also)

    The two who don’t or can’t are Tabby and Snider. Here in my little nutshell is your RF problem. Keep Tabby and Snider away from RF.
    This is a physics problem or a study in nuclear fission.

  567. Bob Hasis says:

    Not a physics problem

  568. Ghost says:

    What I’m more concerned about (though not really) is the nine hits A.J. gave up. Not at all a horrible performance — his teammates made all kinds of errors — A.J. only gave up one ‘earned’ run. But at this snapshot in time, Cole is the better of our two righty regulars in the rotation. If we ranked ‘em today, A.J. would be our No. 4 starter. Still happy with him and the fire he brings. Neal better not do anything stupid.

  569. The Gunner says:


    I support this 100%

  570. The Gunner says:

    NH wouldn’t, would he?????????

  571. Drew71 says:

    I can’t believe they lost a game.

    Somebody needs to lose a job.


  572. Tom P. says:

    But Melancon would not have pitched last night if the other guys could have held a four run lead (same situation as Tuesday). What happened instead was a single and a homer (by Jayson Werth, his third of the series). Thus, a save situation for Melancon with no outs in the ninth, which he converted.

    Let’s remember that the Nationals were supposed to be really good, so it’s not surprising that they could take advantage of 3 errors and 3-18 RISP to win one out of four. Now it is on to Miami where the most important game is the one the Pirates play that day.

  573. diehard says:

    He’s had one good game in the majors this year. One. Aside from today, he’s 2 for 18. Back to the bench tomorrow.

  574. Jim S. says:

    Actually, the Cards farm system may be #1 in MLB.

  575. Stickyweb says:

    Agreed it’s only one good game. But if Hurdle actually stated that he wants to get Pedro and Cutch (and possibly Marte, though he definitely had 4 days off last week) an day off, why not make Pedro’s day off tomorrow and play J-Hey when he’s feeling good? As others said, the days off better come against Miami and not the Cards.

  576. Jim S. says:

    I love the spirit of this Buccos team. This was a loss but not a setback in terms of how they are feeling as a team. I think they remain a very confident group, and this will onlyh solidify that feeling.

    Bryce Harper is not your ordinary 20 year old. He can be annoying and full of himself at times, but the kid has so much talent.

  577. Stickyweb says:

    After that first inning, I nominate the infield coach to get fired. All in favor? :-)

  578. Stickyweb says:

    He does have him some talent, but if he keeps running until they tag him, he better have more talent than Babe Ruth. Still gotta know how to play the game.

  579. Milo Hamilton says:

    That’s fine. I get ignored at home too.

  580. John Lease says:

    I couldn’t pull this one out.

    But the Pirates didn’t deserve to win with that bottom of the first.

  581. diehard says:

    I wonder if next week’s 5-in-4 series brings the Pirate debut of Russ Canzler. He’s on the 40-man and plays 3rd (moreso than Harrison). I doubt many guys will play all 5 in that series.

  582. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    I will have my resignation on your desk first thing in the morning.

  583. Brandie says:

    Disappointed by the way the game ended. J-Hay made me eat crow. Every time we think he’s done for, he becomes a game hero some how. J-Hay is like a mullet…he never really goes away.

  584. cmat0829 says:

    you have no idea if the Cards offered that and the Sox turned it down. I’ve seen Heyman I believe tweet that they have NO report the Cards offered that and the Sox turned it down.

  585. cmat0829 says:

    AJ is a free agent at end of year…there will be no JETTISONING. AJ has stated he would most likely retire, but if he came back it would be with Pittsburgh.

    It all depends on how much AJ costs to re-sign. He has done his part, bridged the Bucs to the arrival of Cole (and in June 2014 Taillon). Locke’s emergence and Wandy’s likely to trigger the player option makes AJ not as ‘sure thing’ to retain anyway.

  586. cmat0829 says:

    Tough game to watch, really, kind of like watching a little league game in many ways… terrible umpiring, crazy defense, and pitchers meatballing a ton and getting away with it (especially Nats relievers).

    give the Bucs credit, they really don’t quit.

    Mike Winters was pathetic behind the plate. It’s one thing to give pitchers outside the black edge, it’s another to give them 6inches off the plate. He did tend to give the call to both teams, so there’s that. Umpires should say over and over to themselves before the game “I am not the story. I should be invisible. Let today be about the players and not about the umpires”. If I were running the league, umpires who violate this would be ‘back in AAA’ to learn this.

    AJ is AJ. He is fiery and intense. The reaction to the first inning, when he slammed something in the dugout, I truly believe was him being mad at himself, not showing up his teammates. The later blowup, when he motioned to the bullpen to sit down was out of bounds. It really showed up Hurdle and credit to Clint for jumping all over AJ. Clint worked hard to calm the situation down so I doubt there is any lingering impact of this. Great for AJ to give the team the 7 innings (and those of us who went that way on Playoff’s Over/Under)…..

    JayHey can be a sparkplug, plays with a ton of energy and no fear. Good for him. This is why so-called “Sunday lineups” need no ‘first guessing’ like so many on the blog like to do. Leyland, known as one of the best managers ever, loved to go with the Sunday lineups all the time…and they usually worked more than they didn’t.

    Love the decision to platoon Neil with Mercer moving forward. Stats don’t lie.

    A little early to be second guessing the bullpen.

    On to Miami, time for Marte to break out of his slump!!

  587. Brandie says:

    Talent only gets you so far.

  588. JAL says:

    It was a crazy game in many ways.

  589. cmat0829 says:

    Bryce needs to learn how to play smarter, MUCH smarter… not only the baserunning like a little leaguer, but the abuse he puts on his body by banging into walls, etc. His knees won’t last long if he keeps doing that.

    Good player, he plays hard, that’s great. He’s not that fast and shouldn’t bat leadoff, but Davey Johnson probably has no choice.

  590. Arriba Wilver says:

    “Love the decision to platoon Neil with Mercer moving forward.”

    Was that announced by the team? Or is that just supposition based on today?

  591. cmat0829 says:

    I think this should put to rest those on the blog that continually bemoan GI jones not ‘getting a chance to hit lefties’… he can’t.

    As to the bullpen, we can nitpick usage all we want, fact is all 7 have to pitch, and the way the Bucs play, they will all pitch when it matters and in a tight game. Melancon can only pitch so many innings, so if he pitches one game you want him to, he won’t pitch the other one.

    Morris has been very very good, I’m not going to start groaning about a few runs given up here and there.

    Yes this series the Nats did score on the pen, Werth himself was responsible for a lot of it.. and he is scalding and on fire. And LaRoche can definitely hit.

  592. Patrick(RI) says:

    Just like a mullet he has gone away . . . to Pittsburgh!

  593. Patrick(RI) says:

    Sorry Brandie and Pittsburgh. You know I am kidding?

  594. Brandie says:

    Smooches Patrick! :-)

  595. Bob Hasis says:

    I missed this when I entered my 4:13 post.

    You know the adage; “Two great minds working the same way”. Obviously a bad paraphrase effort

  596. Ghost says:

    “…there will be no JETTISONING. AJ has stated he would most likely retire, but if he came back it would be with Pittsburgh…”
    I wouldn’t be so sure. I can easily see “My Way or the Highway” Neal blowing A.J. off even if A.J. wants to return. He did it to Freddy Sanchez, he did it to Doug Mientkiewicz. Whether there is a role for A.J. next year or not is too early to say. We have no idea what’s up with Wandy. And, while a stretch, I personally, wouldn’t rule out that Jeff Locke isn’t traded in some blockbuster deal. The kid’s trade value has to be sky high. And there are teams with serious some serious rotation holes and no help from the farm on the way that need to make the post-season. The Angels are at the top of that list (for Bourjos [YES!] or Trumbo [meh].
    Anyway, too early to dismiss A.J. Hope Neal hasn’t.

  597. Ghost says:

    I only now realized that DK’s tweets no longer scroll across his landing page. His were pretty much the only Tweets I ever bothered with. Had to Google it to find the clubhouse reaction to the “strategizing” on the steps. When was the landing page de-tweeted?

    DK: Something on Twitter’s end killed the feed. We’re trying to get it back.

  598. Nate83 says:

    “My way or the highway”? I’m not sure where he got this reputation. It seems to be out of place. They made an internal observation of what those players were worth and made offers to them. They turned those offers down so they got traded instead of getting nothing for them in return. That is just bussiness especially for a small to mid market team.

    There is no way that Locke would get traded this year. I could see it happening in the off season but even then very unlikely.

  599. Drew71 says:

    When he unscrolled his tweet.

    But it was still no longer.

  600. Milo Hamilton says:

    Indy just got no hit.

    Some 25 year old jabrone with an ERA of about 4.50. Only a 7 inning game – 1st game of DH.

  601. Ghost says:

    I’m sorry, but you just have the facts wrong about Freddy, Dirty Doug, and other individuals too, along the way (Trent Jewett, etc.). But it’s too tedious to rehash that tonight. Suffice it to say you have your memory of events and I have mine and we’ll have to just agree to disagree.

    As for a Locke trade, if it’s conceivable in the off-season, then it’s conceivable (possibly more so) now. The urgency for some teams is at it’s highest right now. That said, I’m not putting money down that he WILL be trading. Just indulging in a little speculation banter. However, while we have some players who should be untouchable, I’m not sure he’s one of them and I would definitely take a top-tier OF and/or 1st-baseball with years of control for Locke.

  602. Ghost says:

    I’ll have to file this reply as one of those that sailed over my head…

  603. Thundercrack says:

    Dirty Doug?

    I thought he proved that he couldn’t play anymore.

  604. Chuck H says:

    I know we can’t win ‘em all. but why, in that 9th inning did we not put a lefty in to pitch to
    Harper. Not that he wouldn’t still have done what he did, but everybody knows that a
    lefty pitcher has a better percentage of getting a lefty hitter out than a righty. Also, Morris
    is not the closer, so what difference would it have made to switch pitchers in that situation? There were two out when Harper harpooned us. Maybe we could have scored more runs in the 10th.

  605. theplanisworking says:

    + a whole bunch agreeing with me on AJ. :)

  606. Lad9 says:

    Gotta agree Chuck. Don’t understand that one

  607. JohninOshkosh says:

    841 posts so far for today’s two threads.

  608. pattonbb says:

    Today must have been Groupon day at the blog.

  609. cmat0829 says:

    Clint discussed it as something they may do moving forward, based on the splits… said that “he and Neil talked about it”… this is the pattern for CH this year, he is pretty forthcoming in announcing these things… I dont think Mercer will play EVERY game vs. LHPs, but I’d be shocked if he didn’t play more than half the rest of the way.

    The Bucs have reached a healthy place in their growth trajectory… to get better, decisions like this are part of it. In years past, they had so many holes to plug that something like Neil vs. LHPs was not a priority…now it is.

    Same tough decision may be coming for Fort, as soon as Tony ‘figures out his throwing’. It’s conceivable that if the Bucs acquire a starter (not a priority but they are likely talking about it), then either Cole or Morton would go to the pen and someone else would be jettisoned to Indy…

    These are the types of improvements that the next phase demands… hope the players have the continence for it. I think they do….

  610. cmat0829 says:

    Blog Mania?

  611. cmat0829 says:

    My guess on this is that Watson was today’s closer, and you need a closer in a tie game on the road if you are to win…and Wilson went last night so they were trying not to use him…

  612. cmat0829 says:

    I’m confused. Freddy was TRADED at the deadline after they couldn’t agree to an extension. I happen to think it was the right move to trade Freddy and Jack W, but I know emotions run high on these 2 allstars on a playoff juggernaut, so I’ll leave that where it is.

    AJ is a free agent. I have no doubt they will ‘exchange numbers’ if indeed AJ wants to keep pitching. I also have NO problem with NH setting a figure that is affordable and signing him at that or letting him go if it is more than that.

    I don’t think there is any parallel situation that NH has faced.. Freddy and Doug are mere shadows of what AJ is on the field… so I don’t think it makes sense to debate some November hypotheticals now. NH is a different GM now than he was in 2008/2009/2010/2011, so let’s see what happens.

    But let’s shed no tears for a journeyman on a losing team years ago….

  613. cmat0829 says:

    oh , and what I meant by no ‘jettisoning’ is a trade of AJ during this season… if they simply part ways when AJ is a free agent, then c’est la vie. I don’t consider that to be completely in NH’s control.

  614. Ghost says:

    “NH is a different GM now than he was in 2008/2009/2010/2011.”

    I’ll give you that.
    You’re wrong on all the rest, but I’m just not up for a debate, tonight. I’ll hash it all out with you some time.

  615. Ghost says:

    Thanks, DK.

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