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Final: Pirates 6, Diamondbacks 2

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (71-49) vs. Arizona Diamondbacks (62-57)

Starters: RHP Gerrit Cole vs. RHP Brandon McCarthy

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  5. Russell Martin, C
  6. Garrett Jones, 1B
  7. Jose Tabata, RF
  8. Jordy Mercer, SS
  9. Cole, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel and Travis Sawchik are on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. That’s Bucs’ best starting eight!

    Go get ‘em!

  2. Jandy says:

    Playoffs by 2012 says:

    August 16, 2013 at 11:05 am

    Gonna need one you awesome people to re-post this for me in today’s game thread.
    Thanks in advance.


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Line #1
    Total RUNS SCORED by the Pirates in tonight’s game
    Line is 4.5

    Line #2
    Total INNINGS PITCHED by Mark Melancon this weekend against Arizona
    Line is 1.75

    Line #3
    Total WINS by the Pirates this weekend against Arizona
    Line is 1.5

    Please Note – All games must be considered official games in order for line(s) to be valid. Any postponement, cancellation, or suspension of game(s) will void line(s).

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    71 Down, only 11 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  3. Crash says:

    Atta boy Lambo, get a hit, now see the bench.

  4. Bizrow says:

    Diamondbacks may be hot, but hopefully now is the time when they cool down

  5. Jandy says:

    Mr. Playoffs,
    For Line 1 – 100 clutch moments on the under
    For Line 2 – 100 clutch moments on the over
    For Line 3 – 100 clutch moments on the over

    Go Bucs!

  6. TCB says:

    75 over on all 3 lines.

  7. Bizrow says:

    100 nuclear tidbits on the over for all three lines

    Thanks, Playoffs

  8. TK says:

    Line # 1 – 100 on the OVER
    Line # 2 – 100 on the OVER
    Line # 3 – 100 on the OVER

  9. Kevin says:

    Mr. Playoffs, sir!

    #1 – 100 cows jumping OVER the moon please
    #2 – 100 rascals hiding UNDER the table please
    #3 – 100 jacks jumping OVER candlesticks please!

  10. Atta boy, Tabata. Get 3 hits, now see the starting line-up.

  11. Bizrow says:

    Whats the latest scuttlebutt on Wandy?

  12. Dom says:

    #1: 75 OVER!!!
    #2: 75 OVER!!!
    #3: 75 OVER!!!

  13. Lad9 says:

    Over on all three for 100 racks of Lambo. Thank you Playoffs and Jandy. Go Buccos!!

  14. JaxBuc says:

    Please sir, may I have 100 d-back green-backs on the UNDER for alll three lines?

  15. Tom P. says:

    I realize that the Diamondbacks just had three walkoff wins in a row, but “hot” may be a relative term. In their last 10 games, the “hot” Diamondbacks are 6-4 while the “scuffling” Pirates are 5-5. The Pirates home record is substantially better than the Diamondbacks road record, and Cole has a better record and ERA than McCarthy, so chances are better for a Pirates win.

  16. Tom P. says:

    Jayson Stark gives Willie Stargell and the 1974 Pirates a pat on the back when discussing the Dodgers current streak:

    “• Now let’s remember something truly mind-boggling: These Dodgers were 12 games under .500 before all this started — 72 games into the season. And now they’re 20 over. How crazy is that?

    I asked Elias to determine the most games over .500 any team has ever finished after being 12 games under .500 (or worse) that late in a season. And the answer is 14 — by Wilver D. Stargell’s 1974 Pirates (88-74). That team was actually 12 under as late as its 86th game before getting its act together.

    But now digest this: That’s the only team in history that ever finished even more than eight games over .500 after having a record that bad that late. And these Dodgers are now 20 over. Holy schmoly.”

    DK: Welcome to non-grayman world, Tom.

  17. blazer says:

    100 on each for the overs on all lines please.

  18. Jim S. says:

    These Dodgers are truly hot right now, Tom. But, I guess I’d rather they be this hot now than when we might play them in the post-season. If they stay this hot, they will steamroll all comers. But, I would say they will slow down at least somewhat. They’ve won 12 straight 1-run games. Amazing! Everything is clicking for them.

  19. Milo Hamilton says:

    That 86th game in question just happened to be the famous brawl with Cincinnati that saw Pedro Borbon biting Darryl Patterson among other indiscretions. The Pirates went 51-25 the rest of the way & won the NL East.

  20. Hey guys and damsels,

    Sweet Jimmie did a beautiful job of some #’s homework and posted after the lights were turned off on the other stream.

    I am moving it over here for you to study, along with my initial comment for perspective of Sweet Jimmie’s work.

    Groat2Maz2Strangeglove says:
    August 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    McCutch is not Clutch!

    He ought to have at least 90 RBIs by now with Marte in scoring position so much with doubles, triples, and stolen bases.

    If I remember right, 12-13 of McCutch’s 17 homeruns are singletons. RISP is very low.
    McCutch is not Clutch! (And, as much as I like him, he can’t run the bases either, as shown against the Cardinals when he was at 3rd with 0 outs.)

    Kevin says:
    August 16, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    how many of Pedro’s HR are singletons, sir groat?

    Groat2Maz2Strangeglove says:
    August 16, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Too many . . . . for a true Clean-up hitter.
    Yet still not as high a % as McCutch.

    Jim S. says:
    August 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    So, I had to check on Cutch w RISP, year-by-year.
    Following are his slash lines (Avg/OBP/Slug%/OPS:

    2013: .282/.378/.371/.749
    2012: .326/.442/.533/.975
    2011: .285/.387/.550/.937
    2010: .255/.364/.351/.715
    2009: .324/.441/.634/.1.075

    Overall career slash line in all situations:

    I admit that I could not figure out how to set the parameters for career and splits simultaneously to find out what his career slash line is for RISP. Someone can hopefully help me there. But, I bet his overall career #’s are close to his overall career RISP #’s. If anything, it would appear his OBP goes up in RISP situations. Maybe teams tend to pitch around him, and, thus walk him more?

    So, what is the conclusion? Did Cutch forget how to be “clutch” this year? It seems to me, using the eye test, that he does seem to be swinging at more pitches out of the zone in RISP situations this year. He seems to be falling behind in the count very often, and when you are behind in the count, any hitter has a much lower batting average because he is forced to widen his strike zone and swing at “pitcher’s pitches.” When you are ahead in the count, you are much more likely to be able to wait for a pitch in your zone and drive it – thus increasing your chances of a hit.. Maybe Cutch is chasing too much because he feels the need to drive in runs as the main main in a struggling offense this year. I would say that is open to interpretation. Maybe he was doing a better job of being patient and setting up the pitcher rather than being set up BY the pitcher last year.

    I think it is a fair argument to have. I will stand by my position that clutch is not something you can sustain for a long period of time. The great majority of hitters fare pretty close to the same in RISP vs. non-RISP situations over the course of a long career.

  21. Tom P. says:


    I attended a game between the Pirates and Reds that had two bench-clearing incidents. Not sure if that was the same game or not.

  22. Excellent factoid, Milo!

  23. cmat0829 says:

    100 over on all 3. We are about to be acquainted with pretty poor pitching overall with my hometown (but loathed) Dbacks.

    Watch out for Goldschmidt though, and Prado is always tough on the Bucs…

  24. Milo Hamilton says:

    Could be. It was the first game of a doubleheader if that helps. Of course, like with the Phillies in those days, there was more than one fight. Thanks for the nugget. Brings back fond memories.

  25. Brandie says:

    Dear Mr. Playoffs and Fun on a Nun,

    Please my I have 50 on the over for all three lines?! Thank you!

  26. kr70 says:

    100 on the over on all 3 lines, it’s time to go for broke….and thanks

  27. Jandy says:

    I have to admit stats are not my main thing. The eye test is.this year’s Buccos doesn’t.have one.or two heros. Anyone or their brudder has come thru with a “clutch” performance. Barmes. Tabby. JHay. Pedro. Cutch. Gaby. Not one.stands out for me. This season seems to me to be more of a team effort. Just my thoughts.

  28. JohninOshkosh says:

    My dad took me to a game at Wrigley Field in July of 70, I think, when Dock Ellis and the Pirates brawled with the Cubs. I was very little and do not have memory of it, but my Dad talked about it a lot.

    Pirates used to fight a lot, right. Or am I misremembering things again ?

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  30. Milo Hamilton says:

    July 5th 1970, Fergie Jenkins pitched for the Cubbies. My first game was August 5th 1970. And yes, they did fight a lot.

  31. theplanisworking says:


    I notice you dont have “The Rubber Room” as a location yet.
    Maybe Clemente Bridge?
    Maybe high window ledge?


  32. Arriba Wilver says:

    Line 1—75 on the UNDER

    Line 2—75 on the OVER

    Line 3—100 on the OVER

  33. radio wave says:

    Cups take three – zero lead over cards after one.

  34. theplanisworking says:

    Playoffs goes on vacation, and he leaves us these devilish lines.

    Line 1 — 25 UNDER.
    Line 2 — 25 OVER.
    Line 3 — 25 UNDER.

    Hope I am wrong.

    Go Bucs!

  35. radio wave says:

    At playoffs: I will take 100 on the under fur-lined one. I will take 100 on the over for both line 2 and three.

  36. kr70 says:

    Don’t you just hate to see an article in SI (8/19) about what a great prospect Miguel Sano is?…. Since we are in 1st place,… not so much.

  37. Frankie says:

    Line 1 under

    Line 2 under

    Line 3 over

    Each 100


  38. JohninOshkosh says:

    Yes, my family was in Chicago for a family reunion over the fourth.

    Ellis vs. Jenkins. Wow. God, my Dad was great. That was my first big league game as well.

  39. JD says:

    100 over on all 3 lines please.

    Go Bucs!

  40. Arriba Wilver says:

    I still hate to see it. We gained nothing by missing on him, other than lots of chatter.

    But I’m not bitter. :-)

  41. theplanisworking says:

    Stats arent your thing, but camels are.

    GO BUCS, JANDY !!! ;)

  42. theplanisworking says:

    Who is this Sano guy?
    Isnt he a barista at DK’s Starbucks?

  43. TJ says:

    Quite a day in baseball…

    Ryne Sandberg takes over the Phillies

    Lawsuit against Ryan Braun claims he used PEDs back to college, took money in college and academic fraud by a law student who claims he was hired by Braun and his agent to do a back ground investigation on the man who took the sample from Braun that came back positive

    Longtime Boston announcer Jerry Remy son is charged with murdering his girlfriend; one day after being released for battery on the woman he brutally murdered her stabbing her multiple times including on her deck where neighbors tried to help but were pushed back when Remy lashed at them. The woman’s 4 year old child was in the apartment at the time.

  44. Lad9 says:

    Biz I just read where Wandy threw a simulated game today with no restrictions on throwing curve balls. No results yet (I am predicting no-hitter btw). If it goes well he goes out for rehab with an eye toward an early September return. Not much new….

  45. theplanisworking says:

    Since it is a Free Shirt Friday…………..

    How about a shirt with the following pictures?

    -Pitchforks and Torches,
    -a big Eeyore,
    -a Budweiser logo.

    Just trying to pump fresh ideas into the promotion.

  46. TJ says:

    Hate seeing that no more than I see Manny Machado making plays at 3B for the Orioles. Hoping Taillon will make those thoughts disappear next year.


    And that leaves the question will AJ be back?

  47. TJ says:

    I say a map with all the bridges; this way fans can find the closest one after the game should the Pirates lose and everyone goes crazy

  48. Bill Born says:

    All for 100 Please
    Line 1 over

    Line 2 over

    Line 3 over

    Please Buccos take care of business this week-end.

  49. theplanisworking says:

    Strange, unusual, and sad.

  50. theplanisworking says:

    See, I kept it to pictures.
    Reading a map takes skill, and after a loss, many wouldnt be able to read it in their depressed, manic state.

    Focus, TJ, focus. ;)

  51. TJ says:

    Good point…. How about bright orange shirts that say Jumper

    They would be easier to spot in the water after jumping from the bridge

  52. TJ says:

    Braun and ARod should just shack up together; could save a ton on shipping charges for their PEDs

  53. TJ says:

    I would say the clemente bridge is a good location.

  54. Keith says:

    1. 100 on the UNDER.
    2. 100 on the UNDER.
    3. 100 on the OVER.

  55. TJ says:

    I’m gonna throw something out there…

    What ever happened to Drew Sutton?

  56. radio wave says:

    Cubs take a four – zero lead over the Cardinals in the fifth inning

  57. Nate83 says:

    Line 1 – 50 on the over
    Line 2 – 100 on the under
    Line 3 – 100 on the over

  58. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Pirates have signed Kyle Farnsworth to a minor league deal.

  59. Keith says:

    Clemente Bridge Sax Guy could be an honorary member.

  60. JohninOshkosh says:

    4-0 Cubs lead StL. End of 5

    Schierholtz with 3 RBI.

    See, he’s helping the Buccos without even being traded to them.

  61. JohninOshkosh says:

    Steroid alert.

  62. Keith says:

    That guy used to throw absolute smoke.

  63. Milo Hamilton says:

    Cards got ‘em right where they want ‘em.

  64. TJ says:

    Does he know how to hit with RISP or just give up hits with RISP?

  65. He could bring some heat at one time.

  66. bman says:


    Line 1: 50 on the OVER
    Line 2: 50 on the UNDER


  67. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jake Arrieta just got through the 6th with a 4-0 lead. Guess it can be done. Huh.

  68. radio wave says:

    Cubs take a six nothing lead in the sixth inning

  69. TJ says:

    Uhh Franky got through with a 5-0 lead.

    And I’m sure 10 years ago at the age of 27 AJ might have been able to get through

  70. radio wave says:

    A small correction, it is five nothing cubs in the sixth inning. Hopefully more to come.

  71. radio wave says:

    I was 30 seconds too early. It is now officially six nothing.

  72. Dadtackular says:

    Line 1 100 snakes on the under
    Line 2 100 snakes on the over
    Line 3 100 snakes on the over

  73. TJ says:

    Your stumbling along like ole Myron Cope

    Never forget the call against the saints years ago…

    Fakhir Brown… and Myron calls him Fu**er

  74. Dadtackular says:

    well revealed sir

  75. kr70 says:

    Don’t forget Gomez and wilson….you can’t have to much pitching

  76. theplanisworking says:


  77. Irish says:

    Line 1 25 on Over
    Line 2 50 on Over
    Line 3 100 on Over

  78. radio wave says:

    Cubs lead seven – nothing after seven.

  79. Milo Hamilton says:

    Actually it was 4-0 when he did it but don’t let the facts get in the way of your excuse making.

  80. John Lease says:

    The Lambo era is over already? :)

  81. TJ says:

    I’m not making excuses. He blew it. Franky had done it just the night before so it was obviously possible.

  82. John Lease says:

    And even better, they won their fights. The only thing in the last 15 years I can remember fondly is Sosa getting his batting helmet shattered by Salomon Torres.

    Those were the days…

  83. radio wave says:

    It is a final. Cubs win seven to nothing over the Cardinals. It is the Cubs third shutout of the Cardinals this season.

  84. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I’ll take the one with the pitchfork and torches!

  85. bizrow says:


    Rubber Room, far too early, its still August

  86. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey Chicago, whatdya say ?
    The Cubs are gonna win today.

  87. theplanisworking says:

    105 years and counting……………….

  88. cmat0829 says:

    got fired, as did Mark Grace. New Dbacks announcing team Steve Berthiume (ESPN grad) and Bob Brenly. Very good crew.

  89. BDHumbert says:

    Well I got burned yesterday – but In the hope of being lucky…

    50 on the over on 1
    100 on the over on 2
    50 on the over on 3

  90. cmat0829 says:

    oops you said Drew, I read ‘Daron’ lol

  91. cmat0829 says:

    Helps to have help. Really hard to believe Cubs pitching in Wrigley shut down the Cards. I guess that’s why baseball is 162 games, anything can happen.

  92. Chuck H says:

    Don’t want anymore games like yesterday’s game. Clint Hurdle, know when your pitcher
    is ready to be replaced by a reliever. It’s not that hard to do. When he is blowing a 4 run
    lead, take him out BEFORE the game is tied or worse. See, how easy that was? I bet I could manage this team better than you. We will need to have our hitting clothes on,
    starting today. GO, BUCS!!!

  93. irishjim says:

    0 for 2 with RISP tonight. This team refuses to hit once someone reaches second.

  94. cmat0829 says:

    so if score is 4-2 Bucs in top of 5th, one out and runners on 1st and 2nd, just so I know, your recommendation is that CH replace Cole with pretty tired bullpen to again cover 4+ innings?

  95. Brandie says:

    Hitting with RISP is kryptonite!

  96. theplanisworking says:

    Trust me, the Pirates arent Supermen with RISP.

  97. Brandie says:

    Trust in the Plan, because the Plan is working! :-)

  98. theplanisworking says:

    Hi Brandimal, our 63 inches of Kryptonite.

    You should be out with the hubs celebrating !!!!

  99. Brandie says:

    Am celebrating with him and wine…

  100. Milo Hamilton says:

    Gerrit Cole’s hitting 1.000 with RISP.

  101. theplanisworking says:

    Uh Oh………… drunk Muppet!

  102. Milo Hamilton says:

    Happy Anniversary you two youngsters.

  103. Brandie says:

    Thanks Milo. Hippo Hugs, Plan!

  104. Milo Hamilton says:

    RISP ! RISP !

  105. theplanisworking says:

    PEDRO !!!!!!!!!!

    2-0 good guys

  106. Thundercrack says:

    On the replay they just showed Walker rounded second and never looked for the third base coach.

  107. Lad9 says:

    Hope the Buccos can give you a win tonight Muppet. Sending a figurative bottle of wine over to your table with the garçon.

  108. irishjim says:

    ++ about time

  109. theplanisworking says:

    Woo Hoo!

    But, was it “clutch”?

  110. Milo Hamilton says:

    Catching a lot of them with 2 hands now, isn’t he ?

  111. Brandie says:

    LAD NINE!!!! Thank you! :-)

  112. Milo Hamilton says:

    Plate umpire obviously rebelling against replay.

  113. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jeff Nelson, not the old Yankee reliever.

  114. Brandie says:


  115. Matt hoffman says:

    There is no underlying meaning in this statement or question? Has anyone else noticed that Andino is hitting .362 in Indy? It has only been a month, but mercy!!!
    Start the “free Andino” campaign. Again, I am joking.

  116. irishjim says:

    Giving them right back…where have I seen this before?

  117. Milo Hamilton says:

    Two walks, both score.

  118. Thundercrack says:

    Greg Brown just said that Cole is “intense”.

    If he was pitching for the other team I wonder if he would call say that he is ‘flustered’

  119. twentytwo22 says:

    Cole just gave away 2 runs. It’s ok our offense is awesome and will score plenty.

  120. Milo Hamilton says:

    The thing that’s so evident about Cole in his brief stint in the majors is that he just can’t put guys away with that great stuff. He gets two strikes on a guy and then foul ball after foul ball after foul ball. He may eventually get the out but it kills his pitch count. His secondary pitches just aren’t major league caliber.

    Hopefully with experience & maturity that will change. Should have paid more attention to those AAA strikeout totals. They tell a story.

  121. Thundercrack says:


  122. theplanisworking says:

    Is it safe to say Garrett Jones married up?

  123. TJ says:

    I call it immature. But this umpire hasn’t exactly been consistent

  124. TJ says:

    A pro athlete making millions? Would have never guessed

  125. Thundercrack says:

    I think a lot of ladies, including my wife, would say NO and that it would be difficult for Jones to marry up.

    BTW, I married up

  126. TJ says:

    Yeah that slider is awful milo. Good eyes

  127. TJ says:

    10 for his last 18

  128. TJ says:

    Nice to see Walker getting on base whether via walk or hit

  129. Patrick(ri) says:

    There is Walker’s really sweet swing!

  130. twentytwo22 says:

    McCutchen’s hit sounded like a broken bat. If it was it would be his second of the game.

  131. TJ says:

    Umpire is awful

  132. irishjim says:

    no wonder his production is down so much this season, if I landed her I wouldn’t care about much else

  133. Ghost says:

    Need Drew to weigh in on this.

  134. Ghost says:

    Not on your marriage Thunder, his. (Though he might not pass on the chance to comment on how your wife did in the proposition. :)

    Needless to say, I, myself, married up (even though mine stands a mere 5′ 1/2 inches “tall”).

  135. Thundercrack says:

    I think Drew has met my wife. He would agree

  136. Milo Hamilton says:

    Great job by Cole to finish up in style. Progress, when needed most.

  137. Brandie says:

    That’s nothing new!

  138. Ghost says:

    Just checking in for a quickie…
    I take this to mean Cole is done for the night? Did he look good? I see just two runs over six…

  139. Ghost says:

    Nevermind. I see Harrison is batting.

  140. Thundercrack says:

    Did they speculate on what Bell & Williams were talking about?

  141. twentytwo22 says:

    Cole was good. He had a bad 4th inning.

    1 out nobody on.

    Walked Goldschmidt. 1 or 2 pitches down called balls
    Walked Hill. 1 or 2 pitches down called balls
    He was getting angry at the umpire.
    2 strikes on Prado, Threw a wild pitch on a slider.
    Threw another slider and left it up (expectedly) and gave up a single just in front of McCutchen
    1st and 3rd with 1 out. Struck a guy out.
    Big out but then he gave up a hit to Pollock that Cole may have been able to field.
    Struck a guy out

    He threw over 30 pitches. His last inning he went through the same guys with no problem. He could have or probably should have gone 7 or 8 tonight and given up 0 runs.

  142. Eric Bowser says:

    I was wondering what was going on, I have the audio on mute, listening to music while I watch the game.

  143. Jandy says:

    390 and counting!!

  144. Milo Hamilton says:

    I couldn’t have been more wrong about Jeanmar Gomez. What a find.

  145. Thundercrack says:

    Hurdle seems to be managing pretty good tonight

  146. Jandy says:

    Jeanmar is bringin’ it tinite!

  147. Jandy says:

    Friggin p*ssies

  148. Milo Hamilton says:

    Amazing how smart you get when your pitchers get guys out.

  149. Eric Bowser says:

    The way Gomez is throwing, let him go out in the 9th and keep Melancon fresh for the weekend.

  150. Lad9 says:

    You and me both Milo. He is impressive!

  151. kr70 says:

    except I got a 100 on Melancon pitching more than 1.5 this weekend.

  152. kr70 says:

    you can’t fix stupid

  153. theplanisworking says:


  154. Eric Bowser says:

    That Tabata 2-run HR should mean Gomez pitches in 9th.

  155. Lad9 says:

    Tabby! Woo hoo!

  156. twentytwo22 says:

    Greg Brown ‘It won’t be a save situation with 2 more runs’
    Tabata HR

  157. Jandy says:

    Just checking in Loonies. Have the game on, just mentally exhausted. Cole came thru when needed. Bucs need to stand pat and hold the Snakes off. And Tabbby hits a 2 run homer so there goes my first line bet and I don’t care :) catch you all again soon. Go Bucs!

  158. Jay H says:

    Lambo lights the Tabata fire (sung to the tune of “video killed the radio star”)

  159. kr70 says:

    tj, my son tells me he read AJ said he pitches for the Pirates next year or retires…..remember 2 years ago people said they would play for anybody but the pirates!

  160. DJ says:

    Not going to pretend to know all of the details of the Miguel Sano non-signing except that for a few hundred thousand, we did not get the deal done.

    Know that the kid is a little cocky (okay, a lot) and the agent was very greedy (which of them aren’t), but it always amazes me how for a relative pittance — in the scheme of things — a lot of GMs try to squeeze a little savings out of top-end prospects with high upsides, yet are so willing to throw multi-millions at the Rod Barajases of the world in free agency.

    Huge article this week in SI on Byron Buxton and Sano (both Twins), with Sano as the #3 rated prospect in the minor leagues and being compared to the Cabrera, Pujols and Stanton for his power. Know he is a third baseman but I am sure we could have found a position and place for him in our line-up . . . somewhere . . . anywhere. RF anyone?

    Neal’s failure to close the deal on Sano may turn out to be worse than Littlefield’s historic gaffe in selecting Danny (Effin) Moskos over Weiters.

    Not to put a damper on tonight’s game or anything. Oh well, back to the positive. Go Bucs!

  161. kr70 says:

    Jandy Tabata goes yard and Melacon (which I don’t understand) gets in. My bets are looking good!

  162. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Lambo effect.

  163. Jandy says:

    Uh oh

  164. kr70 says:

    DJ you missed the thread on this

  165. Lad9 says:

    Raise it! Good to be back on the North Shore. And River Rescue has been released from duty under the Clemente Bridge.

  166. DJ says:

    I guess I did. Who posted and when?

  167. Lad9 says:

    Friday night mental flame out. I know it well. G’nite Jandster! :)

  168. Drew71 says:

    2011, 2012 and 2013

  169. Thundercrack says:

    . We just won our 72 game this season but sure we can bring up a failed international signing ….again.

    But after tonight can we wait until Sano actually does something in the majors before we rehash it again?

  170. TJ says:

    It’s like closing time and someone got his beer muscles and decides to post old news

  171. DJ says:

    Well then, I feel better, Drew. That’s only 3 years and the signing didn’t happen in 2009.

    Been following his progress each year as well, just not the posters. The SI article brought it all home again, sad to say.

    Back to the positive — raise it!

  172. TJ says:

    Wow Eric, haven’t seen u since the third grade picnic.

    How about Claude slicing his hand? Heard he tried to blame Crosby for the slashes in the face off circle this year in the playoffs. Oh wait the Flyers were home!

  173. bizrow says:

    Beat Em Bucs

    Road trips will make a difference

  174. Where has JRay been? Haven’t seen him on since that troll dissed him last week.

    Hope he’s just on vacation or something. Enjoyed his input.

  175. bizrow says:

    That could have been gravy, TC

  176. Milo Hamilton says:

    One more win & we don’t lose 90. Sorry, old habits die hard.

  177. bizrow says:


  178. Milo Hamilton says:

    Thinking the same thing. Miss his nuggets.

  179. JohninOshkosh says:

    10, Ten, X, Diez, Zehn, and my favorite, Dix, measly wins to go. I do believe I see light at the end of that long, dark 20 year long tunnel.

  180. They popped champagne at 63 wins a few years ago.

  181. TJ says:

    Kudos. That in itself is a victory!

  182. JohninOshkosh says:

    Come back to the five and dime, JRay, JRay.

    Miss the guy. Loved his recaps-hope it’s just a vacation.

  183. Eric Bowser says:

    Claude Giroux injuring his finger golfing is surprising, I figured he had this golf thing down.

  184. TJ says:

    But you realize Hurdle is still the manager? Last night many would have you believe he would not be capable of leading this team to 10 wins or keep them from losing 25

  185. TJ says:

    They had to, the stuff they bought was close to expiring

  186. DJ says:

    Ha! Very creative, TJ. And I promise I won’t remind you of the 20 times you did that during the Pens season!

    Raise it!

  187. Milo Hamilton says:


  188. TJ says:

    Well that’s the story…

  189. JohninOshkosh says:

    Slam clubs on the ground in disgust at your own peril, Claude.

    Believe me. It doesn’t help get rid of the slice.

  190. TJ says:

    Pens season? That was over a few months ago. Old news

  191. TJ says:

    What u call me????? Ha!

  192. theplanisworking says:

    I think he did say he was going on vacation.

  193. TJ says:

    It’s kind of like Cheers around here. Notice when someone hasn’t been on their stool for a while

  194. Milo Hamilton says:

    It’s Japanese & I have no idea why I remember.

  195. TJ says:

    No but it gave him a hell of a slice

  196. DJ says:

    There you go, you’re up to 21 times now.

  197. theplanisworking says:

    Well, we can raise the Jolly Hippo tonight.

    Pitchforks and torches safely put away.

    Get em tomorrow too.

    BTW, Arizona looked sofffffffffff tonight.

  198. TJ says:

    Can we go for 22?

  199. DJ says:

    Bingo! You’ve got the record, TJ.

    Also for your total of 22 posts since 5:02 p.m. A certain symetry, I might add.

  200. Kevin says:

    and pirates got that game back… St.Lou got clobbered by cubbies 7-0. Just need MIL to pull through on CIN. tied 5-5 at the moment in the 6th.

  201. TJ says:

    I am impressed

  202. Drew71 says:

    Now THAT was funny

  203. DJ says:

    Sure we can, TC. We’ll just check back in the first week of 2014 ball.

  204. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    That can happen when you play in a division that includes a team that has bought their way to win after win after win.

  205. Jay H says:

    Lucroy 2 run walk off HR off Chapman! Brewers win 6-5

  206. Jay H says:

    Oops, 7-6

  207. cmat0829 says:

    Me thinks me remember the Pirates front office continually saying in April/May and early June that Cole has things to work on, especially the secondary pitches. That may have been drown out by the “CHEAP NUTTING SUCKS” and “#FREECOLE” chants in and around the asylum.

    This FO is most often RIGHT in its assessments of prospect readiness…the blog is usually WRONG.

  208. Ghost says:

    You can always find something to say a given player could use improvement on. Heck, Starling Marte is a far more unfinished product than Gerrit Cole is. To be clear, I was always in favor of sending Cole to Pittsburgh In April, *if he were ready* as the “later clock start” benefit remains years down the road and might not ever outweigh the cost of squatting on Cole now. The FO was playing bean counting games with Cole, plain and simple. However, the Cole question was not something I or anyone (other than Cole himself) need have been losing too much sleep over. He was going to get here in mid-June, anyway, and actually ended up coming a little sooner than that. So it’s water under the bridge, a happy ending, and all that good stuff.

  209. Ghost says:

    A very belated “thanks” for taking the time to answer this.

  210. theplanisworking says:

    You misspelled posses again. ;)

  211. theplanisworking says:

    Coming Right Up.!!!!!!!!!!

  212. Ghost says:

    If we drag the river, I wonder how many givaway shirts we could find on the backs of Pirate fans of yore now interred in the muddy bottom. There might be skeletons cloaked in Tom Gorzelanny jerseys. Bony remains clutching Raul Chavez bobbleheads. Perhaps the heartbreaking find of a once-young couple, now eternally hand in hand, wearing matching his-n-her “We Will” tees.

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