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Final: Brewers 7, Pirates 6

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (76-54) vs. Milwaukee Brewers (57-73)

Starters: LHP Jeff Locke vs. RHP Kyle Lohse

Time: 7:05 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Jose Tabata, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  5. Russell Martin, C
  6. Gaby Sanchez, 1B
  7. Andrew Lambo, RF
  8. Jordy Mercer, SS
  9. Locke, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel is on the scene.

UPDATE 4:30 p.m.: Here’s coverage of the Marlon Byrd trade, as well as a vid of my question this afternoon for Neal Huntington on that topic …

I was originally off but will now be writing a Wednesday column off this.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.

Comments

  1. Kraig K says:

    I would assume the corresponding moves are Pie and Tony Sanchez, with Sanchez returning as September call up after 10 days. DK, sound right?

  2. George Contis says:

    Looks to be Lambo’s last stand. Who is going to be the PTBNL going to the NYM? Snyder, Tabata, Lambo, some minor leaguer? Thoughts and opinions please.

  3. The Gunner says:

    please oh please let it be Tabata

  4. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Guessing its a low level minor leaguer. MLB rostered players are very seldom the PTBNL.

    Though I would love to see it be Snider.

  5. Stuart says:

    All of the names you mentioned are unlikely. Could be a minor leaguer and could be someone like JMac.

    Stuart

  6. Pitchfork says:

    Pressley

  7. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    TUESDAY OVER/UNDER!!!

    ******PLEASE READ WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW******
    PLEASE PLACE YOUR “WAGERS” AS REPLIES IN THIS COMMENT BOX
    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.

    NEW PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME & ENCOURAGED!!

    Tonight’s Line
    Total Combined RBI’s + RUNS SCORED by Gaby Sanchez in tonight’s game
    Line is 1.5

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    76 Down, only 6 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  8. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    makes sense to me….

  9. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    100 on the over……Gaby gets at least 2 RBI’s tonight

  10. Pitchfork says:

    Since it’s a PTBNL, it is most likely a player on the 40 man roster who would need to clear waivers if dealt now. Thus, I doubt it’s a low-level player.

  11. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    For the first time in MONTHS, we have a NEW LEADER in the standings!

    CONGRATS to bman, the new points leader!

    Here are the current, up-to-date standings:

    TOP SCORES IN AUGUST
    bman ~ 650
    Irish ~ 375
    War Horse ~ 300
    kr70 ~ 300
    Jandy ~ 200

    CURRENT PARTICIPANT TOTALS
    bman ~ 2555
    Nor Cal Stlrfanrc (Ryan) ~ 2425
    JRay3 ~ 1875
    Nate83 ~ 1675
    blazer ~ 1600
    JUCOFan ~ 1375
    theplanisworking ~ 1250
    Dadtackular ~ 1200
    War Horse ~ 1065
    Pucknutz ~ 900
    Irish ~ 875
    KJX ~ 750
    fellocolonial ~ 700
    stickyweb ~ 700
    Bill Born ~ 680
    Ermine ~ 600
    tdb1977 ~ 585
    Chico ~ 500
    RobertoForever ~ 490
    Karen22 ~ 425
    BDHumbert ~ 400
    OZ ~ 400
    TCB ~ 400
    JohninOshkosh ~ 385
    Vette60 (Randy in RVA) ~ 350
    EricBowser ~ 325
    Boise Bucco ~ 200
    Evan ~ 200
    Hal Smith ~ 200
    JoeyBats ~ 175
    cherokee23 ~ 150
    A1C McG ~ 100
    Dom ~ 100
    Fish ~ 100
    kr70 ~ 100
    Matt hoffman ~ 100
    PetroSteel ~ 100
    The Gunner ~ 100
    MarkV ~ 50
    mlrgenuine ~ 50
    TJ ~ 50
    tmp444 ~ 25
    Arriba Wilver ~ 0
    Frankie ~ 0
    pants-n-at ~ 0
    steelercrazy ~ 0
    TK ~ 0
    Ruffian706 ~ -40
    Ben ~ -80
    absolute59 ~ -100
    Brian ~ -100
    Dcpinpgh ~ -100
    John in WM ~ -100
    Kevin S ~ -100
    buggee ~ -150
    Ghost ~ -150
    Jason81 ~ -150
    Keith ~ -150
    Brandie ~ -200
    cosmo ~ -200
    DemonDachshund ~ -200
    DormontGeorge ~ -200
    Ryan76 ~ -200
    stuart66 ~ -200
    radio wave ~ -225
    Joey Mellons ~ -300
    Steve J. Smith ~ -400
    cmat0829 ~ -450
    JaxBuc ~ -500
    Jandy ~ -675
    JMB ~ -700
    Lad9 ~ -700
    pattonbb ~ -1100
    Kevin ~ -1535
    JD ~ -1675
    Bizrow ~ -4900

    ***The Most Points for the end of AUGUST will win:***
    (1) PITTSBURGH PIRATES BUMPER STICKER
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323996932466962432

    First Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) BRAND NEW PITTSBURGH PIRATES FITTED NEW ERA 59FIFTY HAT
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323994233155485698

    Second Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) BRAND NEW PITTSBURGH PIRATES EARTH DAY GIVEAWAY HAT
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323994373731794947

    Third Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) PITTSBURGH PIRATES LICENSE PLATE FRAME
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323994796970627072

    Fourth Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) PITTSBURGH STEELERS BUMPER STICKER
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323996576253087745

    Fifth Place at the end of the season will win:
    (1) PITTSBURGH PENGUINS BUMPER STICKER
    https://twitter.com/TheBuccoWindow/status/323996735837982720

  12. The Gunner says:

    JMac would be a fine PTBNL

  13. Arriba Wilver says:

    100 on the OVER please.

  14. The Gunner says:

    100 on the over / the big, bad Buccos are gonna strap it on ‘em tonight.

  15. Bizrow says:

    100 on the Over please

    Thanks Playoffs

  16. Stuart says:

    Playoffs, I’ll take 100 on the over.

    Stuart

  17. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    That’s what I get for not playing much……..Game on.

  18. Bizrow says:

    I want a recount,

    Ah, nevermind, it might go lower ;-)

  19. tdb1977 says:

    Its time to put another wager down.

    100 on the under please.

    Thanks and lets go bucs!

  20. tdb1977 says:

    Biz – I don’t think I got that low last year when I owned the bottom. Next year will be your year to turn it around.

  21. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Kyle Loshe is not going to be an easy opponent tonight. The Bucs will have their hands full with this guy. Will have to take advantage of any mistakes that makes, which are few.

    Jeff Locke needs to show better control than he has in the past few starts in order for the Pirates to pull off the victory.

    Can’t put guys on base and win consistently. Bring the walk totals down, Bucs have a good chance in this one.

  22. Bizrow says:

    Lets just bring home the Central Division, I can deal with sucking at this
    Thanks for the encouragement though.
    :-)

    Beat Em Bucs

  23. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Good rule of thumb when wager, do opposite of what Biz does..

  24. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Very doubtful…but I wouldn’t hate it.

  25. Tom P. says:

    I agree, Ryan. Seems like Baseball 101, but a pitcher just cannot walk people and expect to be successful. Pitchers who try to nibble too much just end up getting into trouble.

  26. Nate83 says:

    I’m guessing it won’t be a name we are very familier with. Dilson is a pretty good prospect and we are only getting Bryd for 38 games + playoffs.

    I think Tabata still has value in a trade this off season. He hasn’t done much when healthy to hurt his stock. He is hitting for a good average and driving the ball well to the opposite field. He would be a nice third outfielder for a number of team around the league especially if they are getting power numbers from thier other two outfielder and corner infielders.

  27. 3:35 PM

    Still no announcement of Pirates/Mets trade on Trib Sports page or on Pirates part of Trib.

    Guess trade never really happened.

  28. The Gunner says:

    yeah, it’ll be someone out of the minor league system

  29. tdb1977 says:

    Here here on taking the Central!

  30. Nate83 says:

    100 on the Under. Thanks.

  31. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Loshe is from Chico, CA. 45 minute drive north of where I’m at. Also the home of Aaron Rodgers and most importantly……Sierra Nevada Brewery.

  32. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    At this point I may have to send away to NASA to continue counting that low.
    ;)

  33. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Oh it was on their mobile app.

  34. Bizrow says:

    I’m going to rally, look out JD…..

  35. Bizrow says:

    Anyone that did that would be kicking buttocks ;-)

  36. Nate83 says:

    I would have Gomez warming up in the first inning if a was Hurdle. If Locke is missing the strike zone and has little movement on his pitches get him out. I’m not seriuos but I am a little.

  37. Nate83 says:

    Travis Sawchick posted a story on the main Trib page.

  38. Bizrow says:

    Dejan tweeted it a few minutes after we started talking about it.

    Dejan also tweeted that per NH, “The Mets are going to get a nice second piece” And then he said something about the Mets doing well with this trade.

    He hopes they will be in the burgh tomorrow

  39. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    The problem with a pitcher like Jeff Locke is that he doesn’t have overpowering stuff. He can’t just go after hitters like Cole, AJ, or Lariano. Heck, even Frankie has to pick around the zone (most lefties do).

    So he has to pick the corners off, hope to get an umpire with a wide strike zone to be effective.

    Try to get a lot of swing and misses or off the barrel.

  40. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Wait, NH said the Mets did well in this trade? Not like he’s going to say that he blew their doors off.

  41. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Certainly a much needed trade by the Pirates.
    I just wish (for more reasons than one) it would’ve been done a month ago.
    I’m not huge on Marlon Byrd, but he is definitely better than the other options they have in RF.
    I remain concerned about Marte (though it’s good news no surgery is needed).
    I believe that is what pushed Huntington over the edge.

  42. Nate83 says:

    I took it to mean Dejan thinks the Mets did well with this trade. I don’t think NH would say that even if he does think he overpaid.

  43. Karen22 says:

    100 – OVER.

  44. Bizrow says:

    Just reporting what I read, not making negative comments regarding NH. The guy on the chat at MLBTradeRumors said the same thing, nice pickup for the Mutts

  45. JAL says:

    Players will not just have to come off the 25, also the 40.

  46. Nate83 says:

    Sometimes it just means that they Pirates and Mets agreed to a list of 5-10 players and the Mets have time to see what their needs are and maybe scout the players on the list. I personally have rarely seen the PTBNL be a player on the 40 man.

    I could be wrong but I don’t even know if it’s allowed to be. Because that player essentially could be helping your current team win while the players you traded for are also helping you win.

  47. Lad9 says:

    100 on the over please Mr Playoffs. Thank you sir. Go Buccos!!

  48. Bizrow says:

    Yeah, we’ve been talking about that

    McPherson to ML 60 day DL and Pie?

  49. JAL says:

    Or Sands

  50. JRay3 says:

    Read that Starling Marte will not need surgery but will be two weeks before he can swing bat…ugh!

    Makes the addition of Byrd all the more important as it appears Marte will miss all six of the remaining games versus St Louis.

  51. Dom says:

    I presume Tony Sanchez and Lambo will be demoted to clear the 25.

    I agree that McPherson and Pie will most likely leave the 40.

  52. SeanAY says:

    The quote is this:

    “New York’s going to get a pretty good second piece. The Mets did a nice job.”

    That’s Huntington talking. No DK opinion.

    You say Huntington wouldn’t say that even if he does think he overpaid. I say, he’s not going to say, “Hey, we’re sending these guys some dogs that we don’t think will ever contribute,” even if that’s what he did.

  53. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I was just confused by who was saying the Mets made out, that’s all…….

  54. Arriba Wilver says:

    I heard on the FAN this morning that we have some guys who own Lohse. Forget all who, but Tabby I think was one of them. Not trying to jinx anything. And lots of small sample sizes. But yeah, he’s a good pitcher.

  55. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    I would like to be the first here to oficially panic about the 2016 team.
    Who is going to play second base now?

    Dear Lord, the .265 hitting at Low-A ball player got traded.
    What ever will we do in 3 years????

    - Playoffs Foo

  56. Thundercrack says:

    If it is on Twitter then it happened, right?

  57. Arriba Wilver says:

    Uh oh. But I’m not complaining.

  58. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Does Byrd catch fly balls with 2 hands?

  59. cherokee23 says:

    I did that exact thing, I think in May, and was one of the leaders for the month…….shortly after Biz went on a semi-hot streak, and then with all the multiple choice options I stopped doing it……All in fun!

  60. Nate83 says:

    I think he should say nothing. I’m disappointed if he even commented about what the Mets got.

    His comments should simply be about the players we got. Something along the lines of we are excited about adding Byrd and Buck to our team and look forward to how they can help this team.

  61. pattonbb says:

    Tabata and Walker.

  62. SteelAg70 says:

    Marte needs to quit sliding headfirst so much….

  63. Arriba Wilver says:

    Of course, Gaby has an .800 OPS against him. But in 10 PA’s, two walks, one hit. But apparently the hit was a Grand Slam.

  64. Arriba Wilver says:

    Thx

  65. Nate83 says:

    Ha, funny. He more then likely does not.

  66. SteelAg70 says:

    I hope he’s back in time for their trip to play the Rangers…dangit. I will be atttending at least two of the three games….

  67. 21sthebest says:

    DFA Pie, promote McPherson, DL McPherson, demote Sanchez gets it done. That would clear 2 25 man spots, and 2 40 man spots.

  68. Dom says:

    100 UNDER!!!

    THANKS!!!

  69. 21sthebest says:

    Where did you read that JR?

  70. Pitchfork says:

    You are probably correct Nate, but I think the only restriction is that the PTBNL cannot be on the 25 man roster (or the active roster when rosters expand in September) at any point after the trade is made. So, for example, if the PTBNL is Snider, he could not be a September call up.

  71. Bizrow says:

    Well you gotta give up something to get something, right?

  72. TK says:

    100 on the UNDER please

  73. Well, I won’t panic, but I admit I like prospects. But I also like this trade.

    We had a wonderful draft this year and we have some room to unload some for proven major leaguers.

    Hats off the Bobsey Twins for this move.

  74. Arriba Wilver says:

    And the problem with that is . . . ? :-D

  75. Bizrow says:

    The way I read Dejan’s tweet, NH was the one that said the Mets made a nice deal, but…..

    Look at my standing in the Playoffs Pool, I’ve been wrong once or twice before…..

  76. Bizrow says:

    Forgot about him, Pie would probably be more valuable come September

  77. theplanisworking says:

    ” I think he should say nothing”

    I have been advocating that for years.
    Stay silent and do no maore harm.

  78. Thundercrack says:

    Nate
    That’s not very realistic.

  79. Mike Shigley says:

    Um — does the “trade” mean the front office has given up on Tony Sanchez? What does a .215 hitting catcher who doesn’t know the staff have that Sanchez doesn’t? I agree on Byrd but not Buck.

  80. Thundercrack says:

    I agree Biz.

    I hope this works for us this year.

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    So Marlon Byrd’s 50 game steroid suspension last year doesn’t bother anybody ? Just the other team’s cheaters suck. Just checking.

  82. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Marte is a big loss for this lineup. Not good, looking at possible mid-September until he’s ready with no rehab assignment.

  83. Forgive and forget. (cue music with angelic choir)

    :D

  84. SeanAY says:

    So, you’re saying that if he was asked a direct question about the prospects given up – which I don’t know that he was, but whatever – his response should have been to clam up?

    Just want to make sure I understand.

  85. 21sthebest says:

    Neil Walker:

    “Are we happy? Can’t say that — because they’ll replace 2 current players. But, yes, (Byrd and Buck) should help.”

    STFD Neil and just hit the ball.

    DK: I just spoke with Neil. You’re totally, totally misreading what he said. I’ll clarify in column.

  86. theplanisworking says:

    I am huge on anyone that can help this lineup. Period.

    Isnt that what trades are supposed to do??
    Isnt that why a GM gets his $$$$ ??

    I am just amazed , and shocked neal pulled any triggers.
    But, I am not complaining, and am happy he did.

  87. 21sthebest says:

    No, it bothers me.

  88. Milo Hamilton says:

    Forgiveness is right at the top of qualifications for your job. :)

  89. pattonbb says:

    Light some candles for them.

  90. JRay3 says:

    It was on twitter, by writers who cover team and info coming from what Marte told them.

  91. Thundercrack says:

    Well he has been silent as to what/who teams were asking for at the deadline…and now what it would cost us at the waiver period.

    How did everyone like that?

    What is wrong with him giving his opinion/report on the prospects we gave up.

  92. Darrell27 says:

    His 15 dingers would currently put him 3rd on our team. We just added 36 home runs to our lineup, when you combine Byrd’s 21 home runs, for nothing…….Also strengthens our bench when Sept. 1st call ups happen, you can carry three catchers.

  93. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    No way they have given up on Sanchez, but an experienced, power hitting catcher over a rookie for the next couple of months is a not a bad thing.

    Tony will be the everyday backup next year and take over the reigns from Russell in 2015. Plus, he’ll be right back up with September call ups right around the corner.

  94. Dom says:

    Do you mean to promote or DL McPherson?

  95. Arriba Wilver says:

    Could be he’s trying to get ahead of any criticism that may come later. I mean, if everyone thinks it’s going to be a no-name, and it ends up being someone more well known, this may soften the blow.

  96. Milo Hamilton says:

    Thanks for the honest answer 21. I haven’t heard or seen it mentioned once by the locals. I’ve been rooting for ARod for a couple weeks so I’m pre-conditioned.

  97. Only God can forget.

    But they forgave Washington in Texas and he is still around.

    I guess I’d rather have Byrd who paid his debt to baseball society than Braun or A-Rod or McGuire, etal.

  98. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    “I made an inexcusable mistake,” the statement said. “Several years ago, I had surgery for a condition that was private and unrelated to baseball. Last winter, I suffered a recurrence of that condition and I was provided with a medication that resulted in my positive test. Although that medication is on the banned list, I absolutely did not use it for performance-enhancement reasons.

    “I am mortified by my carelessness and I apologize to everyone who loves this game as I do. I will serve my suspension, continue to work hard and hope that I am given an opportunity to help a club win later this season.”

    - Marlon Byrd
    June 25, 2012

  99. 21sthebest says:

    Thundercrack also mentioned that he wasn’t a fan of Byrd because he got busted.

    I feel conflicted right now.

  100. Milo Hamilton says:

    It is mentioned in 24/7′s story complete with Byrd’s lame explanation.

  101. Jim S. says:

    Niether does Kyle Loshe have great stuff, Nor Cal. I think his good fortune from the last few years is catching up to him this year. We need to rock him.

  102. Arriba Wilver says:

    smh (at Neil)

    They’ll most likely replace 2 players that have been up here less than 2 weeks. STFD indeed.

  103. theplanisworking says:

    +1.

    Lost among this……. somewhere on the morning thread, someone posted that the Pirates gave up a high prospect.
    I dont agree with this at all.

    Last year, neal gave up Grossman, the # 8 or 9 prospect.
    Today, its Herreria, the #10 or 11 prospect.

    To me, a “top prospect” is Top 5.
    neal still hasnt come close to that.
    And, I am not saying he should, just pointing out a “top” prospect hasnt been traded yet.
    Good for neal for not giving up a true top prospect fop Byrd.
    And, I am not complaining in the clubhouse.

  104. Irish says:

    50 on Under, please.
    Thanks, Playoffs!
    Let’s Go Bucs!

  105. Jim S. says:

    Loshe has struggled this year, right? He’s not what he was the last couple of years. A lot of people said he was a regression candidate (I know, that phrase again), which is part of the reason no one wanted to give up a #1 and sign him to a longer deal this off-season.

  106. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    He should be happy.
    Herrera was gonna take his job one day.

    DK: Read above. WAY OFF on Walker. Just wait.

  107. pattonbb says:

    Doesn’t bother me at all. He accepted the consequences of his actions.

    And just for the record, not all cheaters suck. Just the ones who play for the Brewers and Reds.

  108. Thundercrack says:

    At least we got your definition of ‘top prospect’.

    I hope this prospect doesn’t turn out to be another Willie Randolph
    :-)

    Actually I don’t care how he turns out.

  109. Nate83 says:

    SeanAY he could still say he liked the players he gave up and wish them all the luck without saying he thought the Mets did really good in the deal. He could just as easily say we really like the guys we received and you have to give up something of value to get something you want in return. That doesn’t imply he feels one way or another about what he gave up or if he “won” or “loss” this trade.

  110. Thundercrack says:

    He was trying to hide the man-boobies that come with using some roids.

  111. kr70 says:

    100 on the under and thanks

  112. Milo Hamilton says:

    The chemists need to come up with better masking agents.

  113. Nate83 says:

    I agree plan. Herrera although a good prospect if very raw and young. I would not consider him a top prospect. Definately I nice piece for the Mets to get for players that they were not going to have next year. I feel it was appropriate for what the Pirates needed and got.

  114. Jim S. says:

    This could be inaccurate, but I just heard Casey Stern (afternoon host with Jim Bowden) on MLB Radio say that the Pirates caught a break in that Starling Marte will not need surgery. Well, we all heard that over the weekend. He went on to say that “he should be swinging in a couple of weeks.” If true, that puts him 2 weeks out + a week or so of rehab, I assume. That could be 3 weeks. 3 weeks = 60% of remaining regular season.

    I continue to say the Byrd trade was mostly about replacing Starling, and had very little to do with replacing Tabata.

  115. 21sthebest says:

    Thank you.

  116. theplanisworking says:

    Milo, you bring up a good point.

    I dont think Byrd lied, covered up, or attacked the collector.
    His attorneys didnt hold a dog and pony show, and didnt smear others.

    It does bother me that he got busted, but he did serve his penalty without complkaining.
    For the record, all teams cheaters suck.
    Its how they handle it after serving their suspension that matters to me.

  117. Jim S. says:

    Just covering his bases. I don’t have a problem with how he phrased it.

  118. Thundercrack says:

    Did he really say that?!?!?!?!?!

  119. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  120. theplanisworking says:

    TC,

    I thought I explained my top prospect criteria once before, but maybe not.

    I hope this isnt Willie 2 also.
    But prospects dont work out 75% of the time.
    I am in favor of this trade regardless.

    You have to give to receive.

  121. Nate83 says:

    Didn’t he just this offseason imply not enough was done last year at the deadline.

  122. Jim S. says:

    Might I suggest the “Bro.” Kramer and Frank Costanza could have made a fortune on that. That darn Sid Farkus.

  123. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    It is disappointing, but if he tests clean now, then why shun him?
    He did his time, so to speak, if he’s clean now then I’m fine with him.

    Think about it.

    How many guys on the 1979 team were putting substances up there noses?
    How many guys on the 1971 team were smoking and dropping various substances?
    How many on the 1960 team were taking “greenies”?

    Sports is fraught with players always looking to gain an edge on the competition.
    Get caught, take your punishment, don’t do it again.

  124. Thundercrack says:

    This just happened:

    My wife called me and said “I heard we picked up some bats”.

    Honest.

    World may be coming to an end.

    (and she was really worried they were getting rid of the Fort…which I said “I know you think he’s cute, but he stinks)

  125. 21sthebest says:

    Even if the question asked to him was “Are you happy,” there were better ways to answer it, IMO.

  126. Jim S. says:

    And he was a manager.

  127. 21sthebest says:

    Mansiere!!!

  128. SeanAY says:

    I don’t think what he said is any different than the generic answers you presented.

  129. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    2 weeks from now there won’t be anywhere to rehab other than the big leagues.

  130. What song was playing in the background?

    ;)

  131. Jim S. says:

    I’ve heard that said before. I’m struggling to understand how we added 36 HR that already happened, and there are 32 games left in the regular season.

  132. theplanisworking says:

    + many.

  133. 21sthebest says:

    Yes per Tom Singer.

  134. theplanisworking says:

    Taps.

  135. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Sorry, forgot to mention that my original comment was
    DRIPPING WITH SARCASM

  136. Jim S. says:

    Plus, he strikes out a ton so the other guys will accept him right away. We need more guys who put the ball in play consistently. I hope it is on the “to do” list for next winter.

  137. TK says:

    Promote, then 60 day DL.

  138. Jim S. says:

    Nicely played, 21!

    The Executive didn’t work out for them, either, as I recall.

  139. Dom says:

    Not me.

  140. Playoffs by 2012 says:

  141. Nate83 says:

    The Mets could have insisted Buck be included, but more likely it just means they want a backup catcher with more experience. I don’t feel it means they have given up on Sanchez. I think they like him and expect him to play 50-60 games behind Martin next year. A pennant race is no time to give a catcher his first big chunk of playing time if Martin gets hurt.

  142. Jim S. says:

    Oh, good point, Playoffs. But, I assume he won’t just jump back in and start in LF the minute he’s healthy.

  143. Arriba Wilver says:

    Tell her she can see him on Root. (Or is Teke back?)

  144. Jim S. says:

    Fort may have time to be Wes Welker’s stand-in for lame appearances full-time after this season.

  145. Milo Hamilton says:

    Wonder how much more damage Marte did to that hand by having to stay in that game last Sunday against Arizona ? Remember, they ran out of players & couldn’t get him out of there to get it checked.

  146. theplanisworking says:

    + 1 for the humor.

    - 1 for the Cher song.
    Really.

  147. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Lots o’ BP
    and time in the cages

  148. Jim S. says:

    I think I got what he meant the first time.

  149. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    I’m a Pirates fan.
    Waiting is what I do best.

  150. blazer says:

    I’ll take the under for 100 please.

  151. JRay3 says:

    Good afternoon to the window….well for the first time in 25 days the battling Buccos find themselves in second place, need to put up W’s and would love to see them rattle a streak together now that they are back home at PNC.

    100 on the UNDER

    Thanks and Let’s Go Bucs.

  152. Jim S. says:

    My apologies. Lohse has pitched just fine this year – especially considering Milwaukee’s a hitter’s park. 3.15 ERA, 1.15 WHIP.

  153. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Because I’m sure its an easy situation in the clubhouse knowing that 2 people are getting sent down.

    Expect him to jump for joy while those are still around?

  154. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, and wasn’t there a game on the west coast last week where he was originally penciled in the lineup, only to be yanked an hour or so prior to game time?

  155. Jim S. says:

    Maybe JMac can pitch to him. And Karstens.

  156. Arriba Wilver says:

    +10

  157. Jim S. says:

    Did we ever hear whether Wandy got to see Andrews, or whoever it was he was visiting that always gives you bad news?

  158. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    LOL..thanks. That’s all I was asking about. Not bashing NH or anyone else on the situation.

    I expected NH to laugh and point the finger (index) at the Mets telling them how he pulled the wool over their eyes.

    Seems as though many are way to petty over certain things.

  159. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    +1 ALL HANDS ON DECK!!

  160. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    About as evident as Snider is dripping with power.

    LOL, that never gets old.

  161. Thundercrack says:

    I just thought you kept saying that he wouldn’t part with ‘prospects’

    OK

  162. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    +10000
    Actually made me chuckle.

  163. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    When reached for comment, Ryota Igarashi said he was shocked to hear the Pirates has traded away future hall of famer Dilson Herrera.

  164. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    wait….DK, are you saying that us Pirate fans misread something? Made mountain out of a mole hill??

    NO way………….c’mon, what day is it….aw shoot, its only Tuesday, nevermind.

  165. Jim S. says:

    Haha!

  166. Nate83 says:

    SeanAY the original post I saw about NH’s comments was.

    “The Mets are going to get a nice second piece” And then he said something about the Mets doing well with this trade.

    The one you posted is.

    “New York’s going to get a pretty good second piece. The Mets did a nice job.”

    I don’t know if it makes any sense but the second one at least to me isn’t as bad. I read that to say he thinks the Mets ran a good negotiation overall. The first one reads more like they did really well when talking specifically about what the pirates gave up.

  167. Jim S. says:

    +1.

  168. chethejet says:

    Marte has been out for what almost a week. So he is in to healing now. The issue is Marte gave them speed, really good D, and occasional pop. He may well benefit from the time off and more importantly, Tabata is not quite the killer batting first than lower in the lineup. Byrd has gap power and that’s good news at PNC. He also will move everyone down a notch and that will make the lineup more productive as it pushes down Jones to seventh. If he get hot, then CH has flexibility to move him up. But the Alvarez/Jones back to back was killing this team. Martin is not a five hitter.

  169. Nate83 says:

    Thanks for the clarification DK. Things get lost in translation sometimes.

  170. Jim S. says:

    And … I’m over it.

    I don’t like guys cheating, either. But, I no longer have any idea who did it and who didn’t, except for the guys who got caught. I think there might be a hundred guys playing right now who were just very fortunate to not get pinched.

    Ryan Braun or ARod’s handlers might stil name them.

  171. Stickyweb says:

    Lohse is still right handed, right? Give me 100 on the UNDER please. Thanks.

  172. Thundercrack says:

    At least it will make the car ride to the game interesting.

  173. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, on some of my sarcastic posts, in response to other posters telling neal to NOT give up prospects, I did say he would never give up any prospects. Guilty as charged.

    I am not looking forward to some people complaining about Byrd’s performance in September, and screaming that neal gave up too much.

    Not looking forward to that at all.

  174. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    He is a lefty, correct? So he fit the category that I was referring too.

    How is his good fortune catching up with him? His ERA is 3.22. K/9 is 5.9, just down a tick from last year.

    Yea, his record isn’t as good as last years, by far, but look at the difference in teams.

    Put Lohse back in STL and you’re talking possible Cy Young candidate……nobody’s beating Kershaw for that this year.

  175. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    +4

  176. theplanisworking says:

    HA!!!!

    + many!!!

  177. Baywatch says:

    Hey! Friends don’t let friends keep making comments on the other thread! I added a nice little new chapter for Mad Magazine’s biopic: “The Kelly Shopvac Story!” We need someone to leave a marker of some kind on the dead threads!

  178. Brandie says:

    For Lad 9 and any other fan of Hanna-Barbera cartoons of the 60′s.

    In honor of our newest Bucco.

    “BYRRRRRRRRRD MAAAAAAAAN!”

  179. Thundercrack says:

    This just in:

    Neil Walker petitions MLB to let the Pirates expand their roster to 27 players…so that none of his friends have to be sent out to make room for Byrd and Buck.

    More to follow.

  180. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Only by record.

  181. 21sthebest says:

    He was taken out of context!

  182. SteelAg70 says:

    John Heyman is now reporting the the Buccos have turned their attention towards Morneau….

  183. 21sthebest says:

    Of course I wouldn’t expect him to jump for joy. I just thought there were better words.

  184. SeanAY says:

    Nate,

    I copied directly from DK’s tweet. Verbatim.

  185. 21sthebest says:

    Well Neil has history in this area.

  186. SteelAg70 says:

    You are correct Jim…it was the Monday game I believe.

  187. Thundercrack says:

    +1

  188. SteelAg70 says:

    Marte needs to quit sliding head first so much…his hand was stepped on while attemtpting to steal 3rd…

  189. Brandie says:

    Should have been “Redemption Song” by Bob Marley.

    GOOD LUCK, BIG BYRD!

  190. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    DK,

    What was NH’s response about expecting them both here tonight?

    Yay or Nay?

  191. irishjim says:

    everybody knows that the Byrd is the word!

  192. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I hadn’t heard.

  193. irishjim says:

    nay..tomorrow

  194. theplanisworking says:

    Should have been the Sesame Street theme. ;)

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  196. Thundercrack says:

    +1

  197. bizrow says:

    We need a nice easy PBC victory to settle this joint down a bit ;-)

  198. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    1st game of the Padres series……

  199. theplanisworking says:

    First pictures of Byrd and Buck arriving in Pittsburgh………

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA
    Enjoy!

  200. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    No love for George Benson?
    Why not?

  201. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Thanks…

  202. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    The latest craze by FO backers…..Neil Walker.
    Strange andy unusual…..

  203. Brandie says:

    Aww! How cute. Thanks surfin’ hippo!

  204. Patrick(RI) says:

    wasn’t there a Viet Nam era pot song, the B(y)rd is the Word? Prominent in Full Metal Jacket, as I recall.

  205. theplanisworking says:

    No wonder the planet is losing trees.
    How many died to make that surfboard???

  206. irishjim says:

    Well… Everybody’s heard about the Byrd
    Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the word
    Byrd Byrd Byrd, Byrd is the word

  207. Brandie says:

    I will second the nomination. C’mon, the man covered “White Rabbit” as a jazz guitarist.

  208. Patrick(RI) says:

    Sorry, I should have scrolled all the way down.

  209. cosmo says:

    100 on the under

  210. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t know if you were referring to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSjyBHgVbY or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4

    Do you like the trade, Jim?

  211. Brandie says:

    Check out the video on YouTube. Honest to goodness surfing hippos in Africa!

  212. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    He’s a righty, my bad…….no idea who the hell i was thinking of now…crap

  213. irishjim says:

    I am happy with the trade, as well as your video links!

  214. Bill Born says:

    100 on the under Please

    Thank you.

  215. cosmo says:

    20 years +.

  216. No. 9 says:

    Urbandale, Iowa

  217. Jim S. says:

    But, that the Twins are currently asking far more than the Pirates are willing to offer.

  218. theplanisworking says:

    How close are you to the “Field of Dreams” ??

  219. Jim S. says:

    Thanks, Nor Cal.

  220. Jim S. says:

    & SteelAg

  221. John Lease says:

    Spell his name right, please. It’s not like Elvis Presley wasn’t famous.

  222. theplanisworking says:

    Just watched the Mission : October show on the Pirates.

    This is a nice little 1/2 hour show.
    Had players mic’d up.
    The show concentrated on the Pirates 4-game series in SF. Had some player thoughts interspersed in between game footage.

    Showed Martin is a true team leader, in the clubhouse as well as on the field.
    Nice pace, not too slow, nor too fast.

    Only bad thing in the entire half hour, was Coonelly had a 30 second bit in there. He appeared sober, and said Martin was a huge acqusition. He didnt embarrass himself.

    If they have a re-run of this show, I highly recommend watching it.
    I also recommend watching the other teams that will be profiled. Good stuff.

  223. John Lease says:

    Don Money for a HORRIBLE Jim Bunning?

    That, I still care about.

  224. theplanisworking says:

    Brandie, that was cool!
    Thanks.

  225. John Lease says:

    I went thru this whole thread.

    No one noted that the Mets had to throw Cash to the Pirates? That makes me hate the trade a little. That’s the old penny pinching that has haunted the Pirates forever. Does this mean we could have had them all month, if we’d just accepted them and paid up?

    Trying to keep positive, but Brewers in town makes me a nutcase.

  226. Brandie says:

    Just trying to spread some happiness around. You have taken care of me, so I will take care of you. :-)

  227. John Lease says:

    Oh, and typical 24/7 reporting, talking of how Buck is a career journeyman backup. Buck has been a starter wherever he goes.

  228. Brandie says:

    What the heck! 50 Tweety Byrd’s on the over, Mr. Playoffs. Thanks!

  229. Jim S. says:

    I’m all in for George Benson as well.

  230. Thundercrack says:

    The Regime cannot be disrespected!

  231. John Lease says:

    Looks like Marlin picked up his roids in Texas, look at his career pre Texas, and voila, he’s a power hitter after.

    Remarkable.

  232. Brandie says:

    Can you post a link? I am on my tablet and cannot. Thanks!

  233. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

    All credit to you, Jim. :-)

  234. Jim S. says:

    I recorded it, and just watched it as well, plan. Nice synopsis.

  235. Jim S. says:

    So, are you saying he’s taking them now, John?

  236. War Horse says:

    100 on the UNDER, please.

  237. Brandie says:

    Makes sense to get a Byrd to go with our mascot.

  238. John Lease says:

    I sure hope so, because he sucks without them. Chase’s brother Travis is now the starter for the Mets with Buck being dealt.

    And like Chase, Travis has been hurt most of the year.

  239. TJ says:

    Would you hate it as much of that money saved went toward another bat like Morneau?

  240. Jason81 says:

    100 on the UNDER, please!

  241. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Could the Pirates really pull off another trade and get Morneau?

  242. SeanAY says:

    I said that his pouting about the lack of major additions last year seemed like just that, pouting. Spoke to the team being mentally weak.

    Then again, I also think that none of that means anything if 1) He’s productive and 2) His teammates hold him in regard.

    Not everyone is a conspiracy by the “mysterious,” “shadowy” Regime.

  243. Jim S. says:

    I don’t think much money was saved, since the season is 80% over. It is possible the Mets insisted on adding money and getting better prospects.

    Let’s face it, they had the Pirates over a barrel. Marte is out a few more weeks, maybe more. The Pirates were desperate.

  244. Milo Hamilton says:

    40 man moves made:

    Russ Canzler – DFA (Russ, we hardly knew ye)
    Kyle McPherson – 60 day

  245. Jim S. says:

    They could, for sure. But, what I am reading, Nor Cal, is the Twins are not very realistic (according to the Pirates) in their demands at present. We have seen the Pirates stretch already today.

  246. TJ says:

    Canzler designated for assignment

  247. Jim S. says:

    Thanks for always staying on top of things and providing excellent intel, Milo.

  248. theplanisworking says:

    Jim, thanks.

    Sometimes I watch these shows, and they are a clunker because of the 1/2 hour time limit.
    They really did a nice job with this.
    If this is the quality of show the Fox1 channel will have, I will be watching more of it.

  249. theplanisworking says:

    The rabbit is at it again! :)

  250. TJ says:

    It’s silly to speculate on what is being written. There is still 4 days till the deadline. Based on the number of teams interested at this point I would bet the asking is high…. If it wasn’t I am sure he would have been dealt to someone by now.

  251. War Horse says:

    Very good, Playoffs. Made me laugh out loud.

  252. TJ says:

    - – - – - – -

  253. Jim S. says:

    Agree. & it was up to date through Sunday.

    & I was thinking the same thing about FC. Was hoping he would not embarrass us.

  254. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m not disagreeing with you Jim, but how did the Pirates “stretch” today?

    Just asking.

  255. theplanisworking says:

    I will take 50 “Cher” surfing Hippos on the UNDER.

    Thanks.

    Just look out for a flying Byrd.

  256. Sisyphus says:

    Moises Alou was a PTBNL.

    Just sayin’.

  257. Milo Hamilton says:

    Any media member / blogger that uses the term “the bump” should be immediately beheaded.

  258. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Buck makes $6 mil this season. They better have gotten money for him.

  259. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I’m sure the asking is high. It should be at this point.

  260. Jandy says:

    100 units on the over please and thanks. Hope to join ya’ll later. Go Bucs!

  261. bizrow says:

    Welcome No. 9

    George Benson? Who is he?

  262. JD says:

    100 on the over please.

    Go Bucs!

  263. bizrow says:

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  264. Sisyphus says:

    He was asked a question, and he answered it. If he thinks that the Mets did well in this trade, his answer doesn’t hurt anybody. If he thinks that he totally ripped the Mets off, his answer doesn’t hurt anybody, and doesn’t offend the Mets, so he can go back and totally rip them off again some day.

    I don’t understand why anybody would care what a GM says in the first place. Any GM who gave honest answers to every question would be fired within a month, and any GM who refuses to answer questions from the media would be fired within a month.

  265. Jim S. says:

    I think the consensus is they paid over market value for one month of two guys, Arriba. I could be wrong, but I thought they stretched. I am good with it, though. Although I am generally a prospect hoarder, I felt they needed to do this. Marte will not be back for awhile.

    So, I meant that if the Pirates are saying the Twins are unrealistic, they should know – having just overpaid, or felt they overpaid.

  266. Bob Hasis says:

    I hope you’re not into Shar’ia Law

  267. BDHumbert says:

    I am not a big Gabby fan – so going 50 on the under..

  268. Jim S. says:

    So, that’s $1.2 million for Buc kand less than that for Byrd. In MLB terms … heck, even Pirates terms, that is not a lot of money. I was thinking the Pirates would have taken on those salaries and given a lesser prospect, but maybe the Mets insisted on including the money so they could get Herrera rather than #20, for instance.

  269. Milo Hamilton says:

    :)

  270. bizrow says:

    Interesting, am thinking that would mean Pie stays and Lambo goes to the minors. Don’t think Pie has any options left

  271. Jim S. says:

    That was funny, Bob!

  272. MadTurk says:

    So who will be in the Byrd’s nest in the right field stands tomorrow?

  273. theplanisworking says:

    Biz,

    did you seethe new person, No. 9……. from Iowa up above? ^^^^^^

  274. Jim S. says:

    I made the Shop Vac comment, Bay. But, I don’t understand the Mad Mag reference. I just think Shoppach sounds like Shop Vac.

  275. pattonbb says:

    100 on the UNDER.

  276. War Horse says:

    “Surfin’ Bird” by The Trashmen came out in 1963, well before the large scale U.S. involvement in Viet Nam (1965-72), and was a big hit in the States. Stanley Kubrick’s film did not concern itself with such minor inconsistencies. Dreadful film, except for the boot camp beginning and the very end, with the Marines singing the theme song from the Mickey Mouse TV show. “Now we say good-bye to all our company…” (As in rifle company.)

  277. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    No ….Some choose to point in other “dimly lit” conspiracy directions via Neil Walker.

  278. Brandie says:

    Look him up in wikipedia or check him out on YouTube. If you know the song “On Broadway”, you know George Benson. He did a killer remake of that 60′s tune. Also find “Breezin” on YouTube and give it a listen. :-)

  279. pattonbb says:

    If everyone got this excited for Byrd and Buck, just wait until they announce the Morneau deal tomorrow. This place will blow up.

    :)

  280. theplanisworking says:

    see the, not seethe.

  281. Milo Hamilton says:

    Uh oh, collect-a-guy mode.

  282. War Horse says:

    Could Fort be the PTBNL?

  283. Sisyphus says:

    I think that the Marte injury did push Huntington, and the Harvey injury gave the Mets a reason to give up on trying to win as many games as possible, plus Travis D’Arnaud’s recovery from his injury made Buck expendable. The realization that they weren’t going to win as many games as they’d like and the chance to unload some of Buck’s remaining salary made them willing to deal.

  284. theplanisworking says:

    Pittsburgh jazz guitar legend, Biz.

  285. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  286. irishjim says:

    A-well-a, everybody’s heard about the Byrd
    Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a ,Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, don’t you know about the Byrd
    Well, everybody knows that the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word

  287. Arriba Wilver says:

    I saweth. :-)

  288. pattonbb says:

    Exactly. The FO might be feeling a little fire under their feet.

  289. Sisyphus says:

    I think that the Marte injury did push Huntington, and the Harvey injury gave the Mets a reason to give up on trying to win as many games as possible, plus Travis D’Arnaud’s recovery from his injury made Buck expendable. The realization that they weren’t going to win as many games as they’d like and the chance to unload some of Buck’s remaining salary made them willing to deal.

  290. Jim S. says:

    & they should be, with Marte out for an extended period and Jones not being able to hit a lick lately.

  291. Sisyphus says:

    No, it means that they still have two guys who can catch for the playoffs if a catcher goes down with injury in September. If you give up on a young catcher you don’t go out and get an old, overpaid guy to replace him, you get somebody who will be around for a while. Buck will be gone from the Pirates forever on after the last game of this season, whenever that may come.

    I suspect that the Mets wouldn’t have traded Byrd unless Buck’s salary was part of the deal.

  292. Arriba Wilver says:

    You/re really stretching, Daq, on a day when the “Regime” actually did something.

    How you doing, by the way?

  293. theplanisworking says:

    HA! :)

    Sometimes I cant spell, sometimes my space bar sticks.
    I am not even going to say what % is each.

    :D

  294. Milo Hamilton says:

    Might as well get Jarome Iginla while they’re at it. :)

  295. theplanisworking says:

    You know, most of us dont like to admit we are wrong about most things.

    But I am very happy to admit I was wrong about neal getting a bat by moving off his butt.
    These guys may or may not set the world on fire in September, but a legitimate effort was put forth to upgrade the lineup and bench. As a fan, that is all you can ask for.

    Now if others here would share the “feel-goodness” of admitting they are sometimes wrong, well, we would be more like Lucky.

    :D

  296. Lad9 says:

    Coming to you from behind Andrew Lambo at lovely PNC Park tonight. It looks like a great night to skewer the Brew Crew! And starting tomorrow night, I christen the right field stands… THE BYRD’s NEST!!! Lets go Bucs!!!

  297. theplanisworking says:

    : ducks :

  298. theplanisworking says:

    Bring home a W.

    Stay away from the Bowtie bar!

  299. pattonbb says:

    only if they know where to play him.

  300. Lad9 says:

    BRANDIE!! You beat me to it! Good evening. At PNC. Wont post much.

  301. Bob Hasis says:

    Here is a striking example of Rap music. Compare these real catchy lyrics to Sinatra’s version of singing My Way!

  302. JRay3 says:

    Unreal two infield hits and what should have been strike three and instead bases loaded nobody out, is could get ugly early.

  303. Already in the hole in this one 1-0 and only two out and man on third.

  304. theplanisworking says:

    Is it me, or does Locke look frustrated every time he takes the mound?
    Or am I making too much of this?

  305. Arriba Wilver says:

    The song is from 1963. Just sayin’.

    And, while entertaining, it’s a good example of why the Beatles were so embraced at the time. ;-)

  306. JRay3 says:

    Locke limits the damage, considering. Time rough up Lohse tonight.

  307. JohninOshkosh says:

    First time ever The Trashmen’s nonsensical pop gem Surfin Bird has been called Rap!

  308. bizrow says:

    Yes, I welcomed him to the blog

  309. Milo Hamilton says:

    Trashmen, 1963. Hardly rap, Bob.

  310. JRay3 says:

    He has the look of he expects something bad to happen, like not getting a call or a good pitch resulting in a hit.

    He needs to lace it up and pitch, he has to focus on what he is in control of and demonstrate a little more confidence.

  311. Bob Hasis says:

    You mean the year before they came to America – so this music is disqualified as being foreign

  312. Milo Hamilton says:

    I knew you’d be right on that.

  313. Milo Hamilton says:

    You know why they scored ? Mr. Aoki, that’s why.

  314. Brandie says:

    LAAADDDDD NIIIINNNNNE!

  315. JohninOshkosh says:

    Actually used quite effectively by the great Stanley Kubrick in “Full Metal Jacket” juxtaposing the insanity of war against the innocuousness of popular culture.

    Also used to hilarious comedic effect in “Family Guy.”

  316. pattonbb says:

    Maybe he meant “crap”.

  317. Bob Hasis says:

    Wow, sorry I hit a nerve with some of you,

    The repetition of the lyrics as displayed above just made me think of Rap

    I’ll never do that again

  318. Bob Hasis says:

    I ‘ll go with this

  319. Arriba Wilver says:

    Have no idea what you’re sayin’, Bob.

  320. Going to be a long game if they run the bases that poorly. They gave us a chance and we gave it right back. Heads need to be in the game tonight and the rest of the homestand.

  321. Milo Hamilton says:

    How could Leyva let Walker get thrown out at 2nd that way ?

  322. Jason81 says:

    From what most people have said, he sucks, so Shop Vac isn’t too much of a stretch.

  323. Milo Hamilton says:

    I promise I’ll never do that again. I just couldn’t resist.

  324. Arriba Wilver says:

    Way ahead of you guys on this.

    You should be ashamed. ;-)

  325. Brandie says:

    Have fun, Ladster!

  326. Rally caps out already. Come on bats!!!!

  327. Bob Hasis says:

    Accepted on face value.

    The mistake of being thrown out was, at least, a mistake of aggression, and not a mistake of not trying to be successful

  328. Pedro says “shift this!” as he goes through the tight hole between first and second. Come on Martin your due buddy.

  329. Brandie says:

    You make an awesome rally brigade!

  330. Brandie says:

    Preach the truth, JRay Tre!

  331. Brandie says:

    He is mentally pitching from behind!

  332. All it really did was make Martin hit into a DP. Dude has been strugglin for the last couple games.

  333. Brandie says:

    Yeah! Gotta man up and finish strong!

  334. JD says:

    Good for you dude. I’ll even chill out & relax.

    Go Bucs!

  335. Eric Bowser says:

    wah, wah, wah…. what!!!!

  336. theplanisworking says:

    I misread this.

    I thought you said pitching from his behind.
    Oops……

  337. KenKopp says:

    Wow! Are you lunnies hanging on every pitch like I am? More fun than a barrel of monkeys. Hit the ball!!!!

    Bo Buccos!

  338. irishjim says:

    I didn’t know the certain ornithological reference regarding mass awareness of a certain aviary variety would cause such confusion.

  339. Milo Hamilton says:

    Having fun yet ?

  340. Milo Hamilton says:

    That wasn’t supposed to go there. It was a stand alone. Sorry Bob. Milo-ed.

  341. Arriba Wilver says:

    If anyone’s interested, irishjim brought this up around 5:21 above, and I posted two youtubes: one about Byrd when he was with the Cubs and made the all star team, which included some of the Family Guy episode, and the other a priceless black and white version of the Trashmen doing it in 1963.

  342. JRay3 says:

    15 innings without a run, need to do better than that in a pennant race. Frustrating as Lohse does not even appear to have great stuff.

  343. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Especially lately….He does.

  344. Brandie says:

    Dang, Plan. You make me sound like I’m booty obsessed!

  345. JohninOshkosh says:

    One reason that winning the division is essential is that, with six of the last nine games with the Reds, those series could determine home field for the WC sudden death game. Also, if they haven’t clinched the division, they might not be able to get their rotation set up and could be limited to who they march out to the bump (just for you, Milo) for that elimination game.

  346. Eric Bowser says:

    I’m waiting….

    Oh darn, I can’t use that anymore.

  347. JRay3 says:

    Nothing cheap about that one from Ramirez.

  348. JohninOshkosh says:

    Dave Littlefield strikes again.

  349. 20-0 now! whoops, 2-0 after Ramirez CRUSHED that pitch by Locke. Might as well be 20-0 if this offense doesn’t wake up.

  350. theplanisworking says:

    If the Hot Pants fit, wear ‘em……… ;)

  351. Milo Hamilton says:

    Three games at home vs. Milwaukee. If you’re serious about being a division contender, you WIN three games at home vs. Milwaukee. No excuses. That’s all.

  352. theplanisworking says:

    Lack of confidence, or lack of talent?
    I mean, is he overthinking, or does he just not have good stuff?

  353. theplanisworking says:

    I hope you are joking, or being sarcastic.

  354. JRay3 says:

    Four infield hits for Brewers already, ominous sign.

  355. Brandie says:

    I LOVE THE 70′S!

    HOT PANTS!!!!!!! :-)

  356. theplanisworking says:

    + many.

    Thats all.

  357. theplanisworking says:

    :D

  358. Brandie says:

    Aramis Ramirez…

    YOU SUCK!

  359. JRay3 says:

    Byrd can’t get here soon enough, Marte can’t get healthy soon enough.

  360. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Keep. The. Ball. Down.

  361. Brandie says:

    Which one Plan?

  362. twentytwo22 says:

    They look ready for football season. Boring lifeless game so far.

  363. Eric Bowser says:

    89 mph fastball by Locke…

  364. JohninOshkosh says:

    That Aramis Ramirez is one heck of a player. The former Bucco has somewhat quietly put together a very solid career.

  365. theplanisworking says:

    Either would work.

    Bud Selig forced McClatchy to dump salary due to debt ration in 2003.
    McClatchy forced Littlefield to dump salary to meet the demands.
    Kris Benson was the original trade target, I think, but he got injured.

    There are many things to make fun of Littlefield for, but this isnt one of them.
    He was forced to do this, much to the detriment of the Pirates for years to come.

  366. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Pee Wee Herman’s movie as well.

  367. 2-3-4, make it happen. 5-6-7 keep it going, 8-9-1 finish for the next round to start. OFFENSE!!!!!

  368. JohninOshkosh says:

    Disagree completely.

    Arguably one of the worst trades ever made by this organization by one of its worst general managers ever.

  369. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I use that term quite often. Gonna behead me?

  370. Jay H says:

    NH on ROOT just said the Mets got two good promising prospects. Has the PTBNL be named?

  371. Jay H says:

    oops, been named

  372. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m not normally a “you gotta sweep” guy, but I agree with you on this one.

  373. Eric Bowser says:

    No, it hasn’t and probably won’t until it is official.

  374. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, agreed 100% on the worst GM, and worse trade.

    But, realistically, this wasnt Littlefields call.
    He was forced to do it.

    Many villians here.
    Selig, McClatchy, debt ratio.

    Like I said, bad trade by a bad GM.
    If he isnt forced to do it, it never happens.

  375. irishjim says:

    I wanted to say something about the certain ornithological reference regarding mass awareness of a certain aviary variety…..

  376. Arriba Wilver says:

    No question he was forced to make the trade, but I’ve come to the conclusion over time that he panicked, and a competent GM could have made a better deal, even if forced. I came to this conclusion when he traded for Matt Morris, and ignored the Giant’s offer to pay some of his salary. This was confirmed when the Cubs hired him as a scout. (That last sentence is only partially tongue in cheek)

  377. JohninOshkosh says:

    +1

  378. Thundercrack says:

    That was almost a Kovacevic shot

    Almost hit The Sign

  379. KenKopp says:

    Man our ball girls are players.

  380. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I repeat.

  381. theplanisworking says:

    Good Point, AW.

    He did panic, probably because McClatchy was breathing down his neck.

    The 3 candidates to be traded were Benson, who got hurt, Kendall, who had that horrible contract no one would trade for, or Ramirez.

    Yes, Littlefield shouldnt have traded him to a division rival, but that is easy to see now.

    A trade that set the team back years……….

  382. JohninOshkosh says:

    Great slide by Scooter. Lost art.

    And the Pirates are in a bit of trouble. Has that Byrd taxi made it to PNC yet ?

  383. irishjim says:

    Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a ,Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, don’t you know about the Byrd
    Well, everybody knows that the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word

  384. Milo Hamilton says:

    The not ready for prime time players.

  385. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Ball game.

    Jeff Locke needs to be removed from the rotation. He’s lost his mo-jo.

    By no means I think they should give up on him long term, just short term. 1st full year in the big leagues.

  386. JRay3 says:

    Well game over, Locke can not make his next start versus the Cardinals.

    This looks like a wild card team at best.

  387. Drew71 says:

    I think we can now call the Byrd era a failure.

  388. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Locke doesn’t throw hard enough to go inside to Aramis like that.

    Fooled him in the 1st one, about all you’re gonna get.

  389. pattonbb says:

    Locke is regressing to his mean.

  390. Thundercrack says:

    Maybe we should start keeping our young pitchers away from AJ

  391. JohninOshkosh says:

    Maybe Locke is the PTBNL and thought he was pitching for the Mets.

  392. irishjim says:

    Agreed he was just beyond fatigued for going on 3 starts now and they really had no option but to run him out there until the call ups in a few days.

  393. Drew71 says:

    I hope Byrd can pitch.

  394. theplanisworking says:

    Cumpton, or Gomez needs to replace Locke in the rotation immediately.

    Maybe Locke is hurt? He seems to have lost some MPH off his pitches.

  395. Eric Bowser says:

    Since “The THOM” said “he sucks” about Jeff Locke…..

    7 starts, 33.1 IP, and 27 runs….

  396. cherokee23 says:

    Haven’t been on much lately, so if this has been said already I apologize……This year’s Jeff Locke is a carbon copy of last year’s James McDonald

  397. Eric Bowser says:

    put Locke on DL, recall Cumpton and hope he can get the arm strength back.

  398. KenKopp says:

    Ball game? Game over?

    Come on folks.It is a pennant race. I hope the players don’t have that wimpy attitude. Geez, act like ya been here before. Its tough but you hang an till the last pitch, Pathetic fans some of ya bloggers.

  399. Brandie says:

    Ah, Drew-k.

    The Sizzling Wit Strikes Again.

  400. Thundercrack says:

    We’re going to have a winning record….right

  401. JohninOshkosh says:

    Brewers have not lost any of their last 5 road series.

  402. cherokee23 says:

    The Reds guy?

  403. JohninOshkosh says:

    Mr. Aoki with the blooper!

  404. Drew71 says:

    Nit for short.

  405. Milo Hamilton says:

    Someone needs to remind them it’s a pennant race. Or, they’ve just recently realized it’s a pennant race. One or the other.

  406. irishjim says:

    we have a game!

  407. Eric Bowser says:

    Walker CRUSHED it!!!!

  408. JohninOshkosh says:

    Division champs!!!!!!!!! This team does not quit!

  409. twentytwo22 says:

    This team needed that HR right now.

  410. cherokee23 says:

    Kudos!!! new ballgame!

  411. theplanisworking says:

    I thought that was me?

  412. theplanisworking says:

    I thought that was me?

  413. JRay3 says:

    Walker absolutely CRUSHED that ball, maybe what was needed to wake this team up!

  414. pattonbb says:

    game on, suckers!!

  415. Arriba Wilver says:

    I forgive Neil for his “not happy” comments. :-P

  416. Lad9 says:

    That went right over my head. Crushed it. Neal!

  417. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I am literally in shock. Great job NW.

    I usually don’t give up on the team that quickly, but the way things have been going I figures no chance.

    Way to go!

  418. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Awesome

  419. irishjim says:

    he should play mad more often!

  420. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Dang it!! I hate that fence.

    Pedro with 3 hits

  421. SJB says:

    Why act? It’s been 20 years since “been here before” would even apply. Most younger fans have no idea what that feels like as well as most of the Pirates players. Hard to “act” like you’ve been there before when a lot haven’t that experience. They do however know what losing feels like so don’t knock, hard core, bona fide experts in that area.

    Besides; for a team that can’t hit it’s way out of a wet paper bag, A 5-0 deficit is pretty much game over. Been there before…many times my friend. ;)

  422. JRay3 says:

    Do have to admire how this team does play all 27 outs.

  423. KenKopp says:

    You really think they are not trying their best?

  424. theplanisworking says:

    Man, Pedro cant get a break with those doubles!

    But, we just have to get him in !!

  425. irishjim says:

    nice!

  426. Lad9 says:

    Neil. Oops

  427. Brandie says:

    What a prognosticator, Ken!

  428. Thundercrack says:

    +1

    He showed The Regime who The Pittsburgh Kid is!

  429. JRay3 says:

    Gosh that is the third time in past week where Alvarez hits a ground rule double that prevents run from scoring.

  430. pattonbb says:

    terrible luck with the ground rule double.

  431. cherokee23 says:

    That’s pretty cool!

  432. Milo Hamilton says:

    Never questioned their effort.

  433. Bob Hasis says:

    When Walker is in that groove, no one has a swing that is more majestic looking.

    I wish someday he finds that from the right side.

  434. Milo Hamilton says:

    Starting my Pie must stay campaign.

  435. theplanisworking says:

    But doesnt old Pie get stale?

  436. KenKopp says:

    I have been there through some tight pennant races with the Bucs. It is sports. Frustrating at times. especially with a team that can’t hit its way out of a wet paper bag. But Neil homers and “game over” still in everyones mind? Geez!

  437. Milo Hamilton says:

    Only in the minors.

  438. Bob Hasis says:

    I’d like to start a Gomez for the Rotation campaign

  439. Eric Bowser says:

    screw it, just bat left-handed all the time.

  440. KenKopp says:

    Uh, lucky rooting. Lets fo Bucs.

  441. Eric Bowser says:

    at this point, send Sanchez & Lambo to Triple-A.

    I’d rather have Pie on 25-man for playoffs as defensive replacement for Byrd in RF when leading in 8th/9th inning or for his speed to score a run to tie or take lead late in games.

  442. Arriba Wilver says:

    Neal said on Root they were “driving” here. You can’t make this stuff up. :-D

  443. theplanisworking says:

    :D

  444. KenKopp says:

    C’mon Gaby! Lets go Bucs. Get a blog mojo going and magical things can happen. You write doom and gloom and you might get it. Not me. Lets go Bucs!

  445. theplanisworking says:

    Is Leyva the Pres? ;)

  446. Milo Hamilton says:

    Plus, he’s tall.

  447. Michael DE pitt says:

    I emailed Mr. Kovacevic this, and he thought some of you might enjoy this. It’s pretty personal.

    So here we go …

    Man,

    I feel like playing Ode to Joy

    The sad part is just because we might try to win

    Today I spoke to my Grandfather ( basically my dad) you know the times and all (Gampy passed 17 yrs ago)

    I told him we might win this, they might care

    Gamp took me to Forbes as he did my mum ( he said she just liked to go to eat the cracker Jacks, cotton candy and have a pop and feed the pigeons)

    When I was old enough I said that I liked Bob Clemente and we sat on the right field line after that

    One memorable moment in my life was when Gampy was just getting a beer at a bar with Elroy Face and Mr Face came to the apartment and gave me a signed hat that was lost in many moons ago

    That’s one of the differences between the ballplayer now days and when they were just regular people ( do you have any of those memories?)

    My friend form Austria came over for the 92 playoff and we stayed at Gig & Gampy’s

    I took a spot next to the pipe in the dining room to sleep and gave Fil the couch (Hobart St near Murry Ave)

    Yea I’m a Squirrel Hill Boy but only Jewish by Proxy

    Sorry about this stream of consciousness but I thought you might like it or it might just be therapy for me

    My favorite memories on Hobart St or Forbes Ave listening to the Bucs with Gamp

    I am probably being too optimistic but I was brought up that way from my grandparents

    I was laid off <6 months ago so my faith has waned a bit

    The Buccos have helped me get through these trying times ( 2 jobs in 26 years and now they are mad that I'm unemployed and and think I'm old but I'mnot that old and have obligations) (really sorry about that one)) damm

    By the way this Ode to Joy isn't bad

  448. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  449. Bob Hasis says:

    Nope

  450. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  451. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I’m down on the Walker bashers here lately.
    Perhaps they should keep it up so that we can see more 3 run HR’s.
    Me?…I’m fine!

  452. Lad9 says:

    This crowd, while not overly large, has been steadily into the game. With the exception of when Locke just sucked the life out of it when he could not throw the ball over the plate, that is. Stay in this thing Loonies. Good things are coming. Like that Lambo leap the ball just took!

  453. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  454. Thundercrack says:

    +1

  455. JRay3 says:

    After that Pie RBI knock, I second the motion.

  456. pattonbb says:

    Pie must Stay!! Pie must stay!! Pie must stay!!

  457. Milo Hamilton says:

    Someday, I want AJ to hit Pie with a pie in the face.

  458. Pie in the face to you Mr. Loshe!!! 5-5 all in!! Come on more runs on the pond.

  459. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yes, I’m a little surprised at the size of the crowd.

  460. Eric Bowser says:

    Pie for everyone!

  461. theplanisworking says:

    Thank You for sharing this.

    And welcome !

  462. theplanisworking says:

    Thank You for sharing this.

    And welcome !

  463. JRay3 says:

    Nicely done! New ball game, the battling Buccos do it yet again.

  464. Brandie says:

    Thank you so much. You have my best wishes!

  465. irishjim says:

    Have you, or have you not heard?

  466. Michael DE pitt says:

    Byrds now

  467. Michael DE pitt says:

    But I enjoy a good Pie
    Shoofly and pecan are my favs

  468. Brandie says:

    Pie for one, Pie for all!

  469. irishjim says:

    Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a ,Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, don’t you know about the Byrd
    Well, everybody knows that the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word

  470. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Pie new LF/lead off until Marte return?

    OK Ryan, stick to your 1 game at a time philosophy.

  471. Brandie says:

    Good Evening, Brother Eric! :-)

  472. Arriba Wilver says:

    Quit rapping already. ;-)

  473. Come on Jones! 3-1 and you swing at that crap. Here we go Walker, base hit scores the go ahead run!!

  474. Brandie says:

    And modest too!

  475. irishjim says:

    ++++

  476. Michael DE pitt says:

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  477. Jandy says:

    Michael, bless you for sharing your special memories with us. These Bucs are making more of those. We’re all hoping for more of the good ones. Sorry to hear about your struggles. Hang in there…it WILL get better. Prayers for you.

  478. Lad9 says:

    Hang in there Michael. It will get better. They cant keep us Greenfield/Sq Hill boys down. Good stories. Thank you for sharing.

  479. Michael DE pitt says:

    Ramones et al

  480. Jandy says:

    Hey Eric…what up?

  481. Bob Hasis says:

    With all due respect to every entry ever submitted, none was so full of culture as this one. The Ode to Joy, which is the highlight to Beethoven’s beautiful Ninth Symphony, is one of my all time favorites, just a small step in front of Irish Jim’s Byrd Song.

    Thank you for this!

  482. Eric Bowser says:

    trying to find way to #FreeMorneau

  483. Thundercrack says:

    Lad I am at the game tonight too and I do think it is a big crowd

    And it is a school night.

  484. 21sthebest says:

    You’re leaving the Walker basher crowd in the dust?

  485. theplanisworking says:

    Ditto.

  486. irishjim says:

    that is great!

  487. theplanisworking says:

    This is just for you……………………

    FIRE BYLSMA !!! ;)

  488. Jandy says:

    planimal and Brandecita and Lad the Rad one. Our boys have tied it up. Lad is at the game, right? Send good vibes for our boys!

  489. pattonbb says:

    LIKE!!!

  490. 21sthebest says:

    I grew up 2 blocks away from Hobart Street, Michael.

  491. Jandy says:

    We have #FreeByrd. Don’t see. How that will happen

  492. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Thank goodness Mercer is in the game for his greater .60 batting average and better glove work than Barmes.

  493. theplanisworking says:

    Hi Jandy!

    I think this trade for Byrd has made some batty! ;)

  494. Bob Hasis says:

    I used to hang with some guys from “The Run”, back in the day

  495. irishjim says:

    Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a ,Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, Byrd, well, the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word
    A-well-a, don’t you know about the Byrd
    Well, everybody knows that the Byrd is the word
    A-well-a, Byrd, Byrd, b-Byrd’s the word

  496. Milo Hamilton says:

    Shoddy defense tonight.

  497. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    What a play by NW. That is heads up baseball.

  498. Walker said, “you throw me out, I’ll throw you out.” nice save there.

  499. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Dont you wish Sometimes you can delete comments?

  500. 21sthebest says:

    Nice scoop by Pedro. I hope Ghost didn’t see it.

  501. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yes, but not there. If Marte’s in LF it’s 5-2.

  502. irishjim says:

    sometimes!

  503. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Crap

  504. Milo Hamilton says:

    Not turning that double play cost them that run.

  505. Jandy says:

    Slap happy forsure! Hope your day went well Hipposter

  506. Just freaking walk Ramirez with the base open. Killing us all night long.

  507. Milo Hamilton says:

    Turn a routine DP, they don’t score. Defense has cost them 4 runs tonight.

  508. Michael DE pitt says:

    There is no more Joyous song that I’ve ever heard

  509. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, it did, and you know why.

    Hope yours did also.
    Is the hubs into this pennant race too?
    Or do you still have some work to do there.

  510. twentytwo22 says:

    The defense hasn’t been doing the job recently either.

  511. Jandy says:

    yes it did >:/

  512. Michael DE pitt says:

    and a MLB backup catcher

  513. Jandy says:

    Doesn’t he always? :sigh:

  514. 21sthebest says:

    I wasn’t one of them. :-)

  515. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I thought the same thing

  516. Brandie says:

    I grew up with so many kids from Squirrel Hill! Good times!

  517. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    #stupidHurdle

    Ha ha

  518. Jandy says:

    Ha! He’s sucking the paint off the walls! Lol. Yes my day went well. ;)

  519. Steelag70 says:

    This is what is frustrating about this club lately…not being able to do the little things…

  520. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I’m gonna guess Pedro doesn’t get much to hit here.

  521. irishjim says:

    If they rallied from 5 down I think they can manage 1 more…faith people!

  522. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Green light!!!!

  523. theplanisworking says:

    PEDRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  524. Jandy says:

    PEDRO!!!!!

  525. Thank Willie that that ball hit the fair pole!!! tie ball game again 6-6!

  526. Steelag70 says:

    4 hits!!!! PaaaaaYyyyyyyydrroooooooo!!!!!!!!!

  527. Arriba Wilver says:

    Pedro stinks. Lets trade him at high value. ;-)

  528. Brandie says:

    Gave Rad Lad the Birdman shout to welcome Marlon Byrd!

  529. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey Lad, pole get in your way ?

  530. theplanisworking says:

    For players that never had a physical?? ;)

  531. JRay3 says:

    El Toro with NL leading HR #32 and shows why you let him swing 3-0. Tied again this is one you have to find a way to pull out.

  532. Jandy says:

    How about 2 Jim? :)

  533. Steelag70 says:

    I give credit to this offense tonight…they have picked up Locke and spotty defense..

  534. irishjim says:

    sounds good to me!

  535. Brandie says:

    YAY-DRO!

    YARD-DRO!

  536. Jandy says:

    Woop! Woop!

  537. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    If anyone is going to the game on the 1st I would love to buy the Pirates ear buds off of you.

    I have a son that would love them.

  538. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I smell a walk off

  539. Milo Hamilton says:

    We’ve only put up 3 zeroes tonight. And it’s been a collaborative effort. Gotta shut the door now. No more.

  540. Jandy says:

    Petey is hot tonite!

  541. JD says:

    Pedro brought the lumber and the leather tonight!

  542. irishjim says:

    Morris didn’t get the memo yet…

  543. theplanisworking says:

    Texas Pete Hot Sauce??

  544. Can we get Morris out of there please?

  545. JohninOshkosh says:

    Smells like teen spirit.

  546. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    No adult should be called Scooter

  547. Milo Hamilton says:

    They’re doing everything they can to lose this game.

  548. theplanisworking says:

    YOU ARE ONE DAY EARLY WITH THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  549. theplanisworking says:

    Ugh.

    Need another comeback!

  550. theplanisworking says:

    Saw this at the bottom of the ESPN box score………….

    Jeff Locke (PIT): 4 2/3 IP, 5 ER; in his last 6 starts, he’s allowed 24 ER in 26 2/3 IP. He had allowed 29 ER in his previous 20 starts combined, spanning 121 2/3 IP. Locke had a 2.15 ERA through his start on July 26. 6 starts later, it is 3.22.

    Yechhhhhhh………..

  551. As the commander of Bastogne said during the Battle of the Bulge to the Germans – “Nuts!”

  552. theplanisworking says:

    8-)

  553. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Before we blame the Pirates defense for their woes, we need to remember that this game would be 7-2 if it weren’t for Aoki’s drop.

    So essentially, 3-2 without defensive mstakes

  554. TJ says:

    I seriously cannot stand Morris. He’s good for at least 1 walk per appearance; if not per inning pitched.

  555. Milo Hamilton says:

    We talk about all the wasted pitching performances. Even worse is wasting a night when they incredibly score 6 times.

  556. florida steeler says:

    He is awful.

  557. Morris not satisfied giving up the go ahead run, now he walks another to put another runner in scoring position.

  558. Mercer-Pie-PH coming up in the bottom half.

  559. Thundercrack says:

    Bryan Morris should be the long man/mop up guy out of the pen

  560. Milo Hamilton says:

    So why is Watson warming up, to keep the bullpen catcher loose ?

  561. Parrothead01 says:

    Boy, the pitching sure does suck tonight.

  562. twentytwo22 says:

    Tie game at home you use your 8th inning guy then your closer. It’s standard baseball.

  563. TJ says:

    Our 8th inning guy is our closer right now

  564. Jandy says:

    Isn’t that the truth, Milo!

  565. Arriba Wilver says:

    Neal must’ve missed the memo before talking about him last weekend.

  566. Michael DE pitt says:

    I dont know how to reply to all
    so
    Thank you very much for your well wishes and prayers
    that is not taken lightly by me

    I never intended to make that public even though I am a very open human

    the subject line in the email to DK was My heart is filled with joy

    I would love to come back to Pittsburgh but we will see

    Never thought I’d post Ode to Joy & the Ramones in one night

    They owe this ( the pirates to those like my grandfather and everyone who has been there from afar or dauntown.

    You never know when you will be back as we well know from the Pipers, Pitt, Steelers, Pens & Buccos

    But there is a tradition in Pittsburgh of sports and community
    There is no community anywhere is as it relates to sports other than there

    I have taken friends from Wales to the dreaded ST L to the Burgh and they have always been amazed at our generosity and friendship-ships even though they were only there a week

    You guys & gals make me proud to be from there and I miss it alot
    there is nowhere in the world like it

    Ok gotta be done now

    Hope to be back in the burgh soon (living there I mean)

    M

  567. STL now up 3-1 on Cincy.

  568. Too quick of an 8th inning for the home team. Bottom of the 9th will be 2-3-4 to hopefully tie this up and win it. As long as the guppie tank can preserve this one run deficit.

  569. Thundercrack says:

    They just showed Melancon’s entrance video & music and Watson ran in and is now pitching.

  570. theplanisworking says:

    Hahahahahaha !!

  571. Arriba Wilver says:

    22 must be in charge of the video.

  572. Lad9 says:

    Decent size TC. I am guessing 28k pd

  573. Thundercrack says:

    After that foul pop dropped the guy in front of me said “Morneau would have caught that ”

    I am going to sign him up for the blog

  574. theplanisworking says:

    That is the 2nd time that Walker and Pedro have made a great defensive play!!!!

  575. Does not bode well for the next two games when they are lighting up our relief corps. Ex-Pirate going against us tomorrow and the man that always shuts us down on Thursday.

  576. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Well. Don’t see that double play that often.

  577. irishjim says:

    Nice dp there! Hope the bats are louder in the 9th than the 8th

  578. Arriba Wilver says:

    Walker making some plays,

  579. Get some freaking runs and win this thing NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  580. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Never mind its the hardest play a 1b has to make.

  581. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    OK. Ugly but effective Cutch.

  582. Come on Pedro make it even more memorable and bring Cutch home!!!!

  583. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Stupid to pitch to Pedro.

    It was also stupid throwing him a 3-0 pitch in his wheel house earlier.

    Stay stupid Milwaukee

  584. Do they walk Pedro to put the go ahead run on base? With Martin not doing much, probably, but Martin has been big in the late inning heroics.

  585. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Pedro is set up now.

  586. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    That was close. Pitcher did himself in from being all over the place.

  587. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Gaby looks good in leather

    Wear it!!

  588. One base hit, that is all we need. We love the long ball, but we just need a base hit!!!!

  589. Take one for the freaking team, Gaby!

  590. chethejet says:

    If Sanchez doesn’t walk he will make the last out, he is useless as a hitter.

  591. pattonbb says:

    The win streak begins tomorrow…..

  592. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Welp. That sucks….let’s go Reds

  593. $@^#&$*( Good Night!

  594. STL up 4-1, so welcome to 1.5 out of first.

  595. JRay3 says:

    Have said all season that this team as constructed has to win on pitching and defense, unfortunately tonight it did not get either this evening.

    Like the way they competed and made it a game but at the end of the day these are games you need to win.

  596. Milo Hamilton says:

    So now they’ve lost 11 out of 17 and probably 5.5 games in the standings.

    Last year over the exact same span they lost 12 out of 17 & 6.5 games in the standings.

  597. Steelag70 says:

    I don’t care what NH says….Locke needs to skip a turn in the rotation..

  598. twentytwo22 says:

    6-11. I hope they play good baseball soon.

  599. theplanisworking says:

    Tough loss tonight.

    Cant fault the bats at all.
    Some poor defensive plays cost us.
    Walker and Pedro made some good plays, but it wasnt enough.

    Horrible pitching tonight.
    Locke needs to go on the DL, or his spot given to someone else.

    As Milo said earlier, this team needs to swwep horrible teams.
    In there last 8 games, all against the worst teams in the league, the Pirates are 4-4.
    That wont win too many playoff games.
    If you cant beat the bottom feeders, how can you beat the better teams?

    Guess we just have to hope for the best for tomorrow.
    Go Bucs! With the new Byrd!

  600. tomp says:

    Who gets the pie in the face now, Bob Walk?

    What a stupid comment, by a stupid jackass!.

    I really hate when that guy makes his predictions.
    Seldom, do they come through.

    Put the horns of Martin for this one.
    At least this should be the last game he EVER bats in the 5th spot!.

  601. theplanisworking says:

    Wow.

    That is scary!

  602. J Walter Weatherman says:

    It’s time to readjust expectations. The goal is to get one of the wild card berths and win that play-in game. Anything beyond that is highly unlikely. Just too many bad signs, even with Byrd coming aboard. The saddest thing is they have to run Locke out there every 5 games knowing it will take 6 runs to even sniff a victory with him pitching. They just don’t have many other options.

  603. Baywatch says:

    Gaby Sanchez, Player To Be Named NOW! I’m really kind of disappointed in him. The way he came out of spring training, I thought this was going to be a nice comeback year for him.

  604. Milo Hamilton says:

    And during this current streak, only 6 of those games were against teams with winning records.

  605. Steelag70 says:

    If they don’t they will limp into the playoffs and make a quick exit. Leave it to the Brewers to sting us…

  606. tomp says:

    Locke should be optioned to AAA tonight, and recalled after sept 1st.

    It’s amazing a guy that was doing so well, has totally become the reincarnation of Zack Duke. Remember the guy who started out well, and turned into a batting practice pitcher.

    Bullpen has been getting torched lately, and i am afraid the division title is going to be a pipe dream, this time next week.

  607. Karen22 says:

    What plan said…

    Locke AND Bryan Morris need to go away.

    I am not happy. Good night.

  608. Arriba Wilver says:

    On Martin? How about Locke?

  609. theplanisworking says:

    Ok. Stop. Its getting scarier!

  610. florida steeler says:

    Good job again–Gaby. Need to get Morneau tomorrow and let the “G” boys, Gaby and Garrett sit.

  611. theplanisworking says:

    Hello, and good night, Karen!

  612. BreakTheStreak says:

    Gaby sucks. And Jones sucks. Jones couldn’t hit a sac fly earlier and it came back to haunt us. And can the Locke 2nd half experiment end. Get him out of the rotation And get Jeanmar in. Locke killing the bullpen and the team. Good riddance

  613. Steelag70 says:

    Buccos are 25-25 since July 1st…

  614. tomp says:

    Don’t forget that nice effort by the dog (tabata), turning a semi routine catch into a 2 run double.

    I hope he is the player to be named later. Addition by subtraction, in my book!.

  615. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  616. DJ says:

    Gabby sucks.

    Someone should drop copies of the very recent SI article in the lockers of Gabby, Tabata, Jones, etc. on the science of hitting which stresses the absolute importance of always keeping your hands inside the ball, as do the best hitters in the game like Cabrera, Trout, Votto . . . and throw Cutch in there too when he’s using the whole field instead of pulling the ball.

    Maybe then Gabby will get some real wood on one or two instead of constantly hitting lazy pop-ups to shallow center or 2 mph “liners” to infielders.

  617. WVStarship says:

    80-82 an absolute lock.

  618. Baywatch says:

    Sorry, Jim. You may not be old enough to remember Mad Magazine, but they were always taking movies and writing funny substitute stories for them, with funny titles. I remember for Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid,” it was “Botch Casually & The Some Dunce Kid!”

  619. Arriba Wilver says:

    Need this again, methinks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4 from 1963.

  620. Steelag70 says:

    This team is just so frustrating…they should be playing their best baseball right now, not their worst….

  621. theplanisworking says:

    AW, I would check him for PED’s. ;)

  622. theplanisworking says:

    Good Night.
    Good Luck.
    Good Bryd.

    To everybody………….

  623. Baywatch says:

    I think we’ll see a lot of towels thrown in here this time tomorrow night of Gorzelanny shuts us down!

  624. Baywatch says:

    Father of the Bryd! LOL!

  625. Baywatch says:

    Feel free to FLIP ME one. I was bad!

  626. Darrell27 says:

    Ummm…because their stats are still current and can be added to our total team stats. No guarantee of home runs in the future, but we did “add them”.

  627. JaxBuc says:

    I did that from the all-star break until a week or so ago. I don;t play every day, but Biz was hot on the days I played and dropped 700 rubels in that stretch.

 
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