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On location: Cardinals 7, Pirates 2

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (79-56) vs. St. Louis Cardinals (78-57)

Starters: LHP Kris Johnson vs. RHP Joe Kelly

Time: 1:35 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Neil Walker, 2B
  2. Garrett Jones, RF
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  5. Marlon Byrd, RF
  6. Justin Morneau, 1B
  7. John Buck, C
  8. Jordy Mercer, SS
  9. Johnson, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Rob Biertempfel and Travis Sawchik are on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. put the morning links here for those who did not go to the earlier page

    JAL’s Wake Me When September Ends Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 Pittsburgh Pirates Stats

    BLOGS and such

    4—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: Morneau For Two Players Who Barely Made It Out Of A-Ball

    Pirates Take First Place in NL Central, Beat St. Louis 7-1

    Prospect Watch: Austin Meadows Homers in First Game With Jamestown

    Pirates Notebook: For Garrett Jones, C’est La Vie

    5 Bucs Dugout

    Pirates take over sole possession of first with 7-1 win

    Justin Morneau trade analysis: Pirates get little, give up even less

    6 Rumbunter

    VIDEO: Pittsburgh Pirates Breaking Bad by Benstonium


    Game 135: Pirates 7 Cardinals 1

    8 The Green Weenie

    Bucs Back In First After 7-1 Win

    9 Raise the Jolly Roger

    Pirates 7, Cards 1

  2. Looks like a nice lineup. Let’s get ‘em boys!


  3. NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    10 City of Champions

    Pirates bomb Cardinals, take over first place in NL Central

    11 Minneapolis Star Tribune

    Morneau traded to Pittsburgh for outfielder

    12 Rant Sports

    Pittsburgh Pirates Acquire Justin Morneau For Basically Nothing

    13 Redbird Rants

    St. Louis Cardinals on verge of being swept by the Pittsburgh Pirates

    14 Cincinnati Enquirer

    Time is running out for division title run

    15 KDKA

    What Are The Pirates Getting In Justin Morneau?

    16 CBS Sports

    Cardinals-Pirates Gam Preview

    17 St Louis Post Dispatch

    No joy in Pittsburgh for Birds

    Calling on Clemente

    18 PBC Site

    Bucs erupt early vs. Cards, sit alone atop NL Central

    Morneau energized by atmosphere surrounding Bucs


    19 Baseball Prospectus

    What Makes a Good Changeup? An Investigation, Part Three

    20 Fangraphs

    My Simple(ish) Playoff Chances Simulator

  4. Kyle Farnsworth!!??!! Ugh……..


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”


    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Today’s Pick ‘Em Line
    Total INNINGS PITCHED by Kris Johnson in today’s game
    0 – 3.00 (EVEN ODDS)
    3.33 – 6 (EVEN ODDS)
    6.33 or More (DOUBLE ODDS)

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    79 Down, only 3 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  5. 100 butterflies on 3.33-6

  6. Do I see two RF’s in this lineup?

    • Yeah, I hope the Cardinals don’t notice that LF is unoccupied.

    • I have to believe Byrd’s in left. No way they put Garrett out there. He’d probably hurt himself. ;-)

      • i’m ok with the lineup and giving GI a chance, but hard to not feel Tabby is (1) a better hitter at this point, especially for contact near top of the order and (2) a superior LF option to either Byrd or Jones.

        I would not expect this to be the primary lineup.. me thinks more often than not Tabby plays LF and leads off and Jones rides the pine, until Marte gets back.

    • Cutch will be able to handle left too-

      Don’t fear, Hurdle always knows what he is doing.

  7. I hope we get Marte back. He makes this lineup more potent.

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  9. So Wandy has arthritis in his elbow.
    I guess the good news is that he doesn’t need surgery. But is the bad new : how do you get him better to pitch? Treat it with drugs?

    And it’s hard to believe he’s been out since early June.

  10. With 27 games left (counting today), the Pirates magic number to eliminate Arizona is 19, to host the wild card is 24 (vs. Reds) and to win the division is 27 (vs. Cardinals).

  11. Anyone else notice the best offense in the history of the world has scored 1 run in its last 3 games. Not averaging 1 run, but 1 total run. Who’d a thunk it? And while Cutch suffers through a mini slump, the Bucs offense is just fine. Can they put up another touchdown today?

  12. I’m still recovering from finding out that Peter Tomarken had passed away. Hopefully Wink Martindale is still alive.

  13. Kris Johnson looks so nervous you can almost see him shaking.

  14. Johnson is nervous out there, and it cost the Bucs and still could cost more. Not in the strike zone much today. 1-0 bad guys.

  15. He should not be making his first major league start in a first place showdown against the St. Louis Cardinals. They had a week to prepare their rotation. Dumb move.

  16. 2-0 now. Johnson is nibbling too much and when he has to come in it is getting put in the right spots. Long day ahead. Hopefully we hit Kelly this time. He did his Cy Young impression on us last time from what I can remember.

  17. Gomez up. He should have gotten the start today.

  18. What a tough spot for a guy to make his first pro start, pennant race, September baseball, gravity of moment. It has to be nerve wracking, but team can’t give game away time to get pen up.

  19. Get him out of there. Where’s Pimentel or Gomez?

  20. 3-0 now. He has to get Kozma.

  21. And Johnson finally escapes inning. Pitching won the first two games of this series, and althought the offense was very good, today the bats are going to have to win this game for team.

    Lots of time.

  22. Didn’t follow Buck much when he was a Met, but so far as a Pirate, his defense hasn’t been great.

  23. 37 pitches for Johnson in that first inning.

  24. OK – that was REALLY bad and Johnson looked like David facing Goliath from pitch one. FIRST sign of trouble in the 2nd, pull him. We can overcome a three-spot. Can’t afford to give up a bunch more.

  25. Johnson was pretty much 2-0 to every batter while, Kelly has been 0-2 to every batter so far. Come on Cutch!

  26. Great hustleby Cutch for infield single, and couple runners on for the power hitters.

  27. Pedro is kinda due to make some noise.

  28. Interesting that now starting Johnson was a dumb move. We’ve known for a little while and not a peep till he flames out in the first inning.

    • Agreed so much.

      He was lights out against Arizona.
      St. Louis normally struggles against lefties.
      Starting “The Olive” would be the same thing…….. a rookie starting his first MLB gaem.
      Gomez has a pitch limit.

      Hindsight is always 20/20.
      Truly amazing, huh?

    • You have Justin Wilson and Gomez on the roster–you don’t call up AAA pitcher the day before a very big game and start him. Bring him up for relief if you must but not start him when two quality pitchers are already on the team.

    • He showed a lot of promise the first time we saw him. This time? Not so much. I’m not criticizing them for starting the guy, but he certainly didn’t look like he was ready.

  29. Nice to see Johnson settle down a bit and fire a zero in the second. Pirates were hitting Kelly in the first, they should be able to put some pressure on him.

  30. Listening to Walk analyze/chat with Tim reminds me of listening to Reds analyst during the game Leake pitched, when he got a base-on-balls and the guy said “that’s the first time all year Leake has taken a walk.” Just thought I would lower the level in here.

  31. Looks like Justin will have no problem fitting in. He likes to pull and roll over on outside pitches also.

    • In one AB you can make that assessment? He is a former MVP and has hit third most HR’s in baseball in month of August, he is a professional hitter, his numbers and career indicate he knows how to hit.

      • Must be an Elvis fan, JRay. ;-)

      • Even though they have had a good first two games this series I am frustrated with The Pirates hitting approach the whole season. MLB. Com allows one to watch a lot of games and the number of times they pull outside pitches is very frustrating, especially considering Pedro is the only Pirate that can truly be considered a powe hitter. Seeing Justin’s first at bat was a typical Pirate at bat. Every pitch outside but he still pulls the pitch. I was not making a blanket statement on Justin’s hitting ability, just that he will be right at home if that is the hitting approach he takes.

        • Jones and Byrd are also legitimate power threats, not to mention Cutch on a smaller scale. But I hear what you are saying.

          Morneau will help or he won’t. I’m glad he’s here.

          • I am glad he is here, too, and I hope he can be a positive addition. As for the power threats, Cutch and Jones are power threats, but not true power hitters. My point being they are better hitters when they use the whole field rather than trying to pull outside pitches. Byrd is a new player, so I wasn’t considering him yet. My sons high school hitting coach used to work with Byrd when he was younger so we got to watch a couple of his sessions. I hope he is a huge success for the Pirates also.


  33. Too bad they didn’t reverse things and start Jenmar, then bring in the rookie? It is an interesting, if futile, endeavor to play a manager on the internet.

  34. This is all Nick Leyva’s fault.

  35. I blame Dejan.

    Spillover effect from his 10-6.

  36. Calling all would-be Buck-bashers:
    Just let it go.

  37. OK, 10 innings of 4 hit, shutout ball is enough!

  38. As Timmy-boy just mentioned – “Too many easy outs for the Bucs today.” Kelly once again shutting us down.

  39. To me Justin Wilson has always looked like Leonardo DiCaprio. Though Justin is about twice as tall.

  40. Well, POOP. I was all ramped up for a sweep and then this game immediately turned into game five of the previous “sweep the Cards” series. Deflating.

  41. Why do they pitch him outside?

  42. And now this game is officially a laugher.
    Hi Frank.

  43. Hopefully the Rockies beat the Reds today, and then the Reds beat the Cards the next couple days. The Bucs also need to take care of their own business and WIN on the road.

  44. Not a great way to start off September…

  45. Well…the Cards had scored only 1 run since Tues…unfortunately they were due..

  46. Nice to have a consistent, middle of the lineup guy behind Pedro..

  47. And Byrd keeps alive his hit streak since joining the Pirates. Way to get through to that Kelly kid, Byrd Man!

  48. I am officially underwhelmed, but also officially under upset.

    Cue Meatloaf.

    • I am going out to dinner.
      No Meatloaf for me.

      After dinner, I wont cross any bridges. ;)

      Even with this apparent loss, I still feel a whole lot better than I did 7 days ago.

      Everyone have a great day,.

      Bye, Frank. ;)

    • LOL. AW, at the ballpark they did cue Meat Loaf as soon as the game ended….

  49. They got lucky Johnson pitched well in that long extra inning game, but they shouldn’t have expected a repeat performance now that he’s not a complete unknown. There’s a reason he’s 28 years old and still in AAA. They’d have been far better off managing Cumpton’s starts at Indy knowing Locke was wearing down.

    Admittedly a small sample, but Morneau is looking very Jarome Iginla-over-the-hill-ish. Hits like Garrett Jones and fields like Dick Stuart. They didn’t give up much to get him, but then again it doesn’t appear he’s worth very much.

    DK: Yes. Morneau is a bust. Can’t field, either.

    Also, Iginla was terrible with the Pens. Only had nine goals in 28 games, including playoffs. He just killed them. All his fault.

    • LOL! . The point is, everyone was all hopped up about getting Iginla and him being the missing piece, just like Morneau is thought to be, and he proved to be old, slow and bad fit.

      More seriously, Morneau couldn’t get off the ground to catch that soft liner and let a ground ball, the same type of ball I’ve seen both Sanchez and Jones field, go under his glove. Not exactly above average fielding at first base. He’s a shell of himself which is why MN was happy to let him go for the fairly meager return they got. Maybe he’ll help the team, but based off today’s sample, I’d say that’s only 50-50.

  50. Nice hit Morneau…

  51. Three innings to go, folks. Kelly over 100 pitches.

    So far, though, not good for our 8.3 share.

  52. A run is better than getting shut out.

    Always look on the bright side…

  53. OK, I need to vent. I hated this lineup for the Pirates from the start. Just because Jones had 4 hits the other night does not mean he has broken out of his season long slump. So put him in fron of Cutch, who has looked lost the past few games and then follow that up with the Strikeout King. A very weak top of the lineup.Tabata should have been playing. And now that we have some options, can we PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE move the Strikeout King back to the six hole. Also thought Gomez should have started. These things seem so obvious to me!

    • Looked up Jones’ previous performances vs. Kelly and there was nothing special there (2-for-8), so I don’t know why he was in the 2-hole and not Mercer. I, too, want Pedro moved down to 5th or 6th, but I guess Clint wants to see if Pedro will start to do better with guys like Byrd and Morneau backing him up. Trying that out for a while makes sense to me too.

  54. Wow…Cutch is really floundering this series…

  55. Walker looking rather Gold Glove-ish of late!

  56. OK. We got all the new guys in place. The offense looks pretty much the same as it did before when we weren’t hitting. Can we blame Jay Bell? Or is pitching still the name of the game?

  57. Shocking. Neverett doesn’t know the fair/foul rules.

  58. Guess the Pirates have something against completing sweeps!

  59. Byrd is officially on a hot streak now that he’s with the Pirates. He’s 7-for-19. And on base 3 out of 4 times coming to bat, today.

  60. Alrighty, wash this game off and look to tomorrow. We’re in Milwaukee’s erstwhile House of Horrors. Hippo fixed the jinx with his heroic run up their flagpole, so I look forward to winning some games up there and not letting go of first place in the division.

  61. It was a 2-2 tie sans Kris Johnson. This game was tryout baseball. Deer in the headlights rookie starter. Barmes and Tabata are playing well and they are out of the lineup because they have to play everybody. Jones has his job taken from him by Morneau and he still gets in the lineup to be nice and play everybody and we don’t have a leadoff hitter. Enough little league crap.

  62. Well the new guys were on base 6 times today….same old frustrating Pirates

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  64. The last game of a series.

    Prior to July 1st
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    Since July 1st
    4-13 .235 48rs 76ra
    Home:3-6 Away:1-7

  65. The Steelers of the dessert, otherwise known as the Arizona Cardinals, claimed Alameda Ta’amu off of waivers.

  66. Today’s game could have been a lot closer. As usual, our skipper left his starting pitcher
    in too long, and that’s another point. Why did we use a minor leaguer as today’s starter
    in such an important game. Five runs are a lot of runs to give any team, let alone the Cardinals. Why doesn’t Hurdle wise up and recognize when a pitcher just doesn’t have enough to win the game? We do want to win the division, don’t we? Division winners have a much better chance to go all the way than a wild card team. As much as I hate the Reds, I hope they sweep the Cards, and we have to beat the Brewers. GO, BUCS!!!

    • ‘Why did we use a minor leaguer as today’s starter in such an important game.’

      -the scheduled big league pitcher, Jeff Locke, has been terrible and was demoted so he could get a break.

      - Gomez is on a 50 pitch count limit. Do you really want him to start and leave after maybe 4 innings….probably sooner?

      - Who would you consider having start today’s game?

      ‘We do want to win the division, don’t we?’ Nah….they just want to break the losing streak

      • Gomez…Gomez….Gomez.
        I have not ready that Gone is on a 50 pitch count per Hurdle.
        But if so….Today was a day to use those 50 pitches.

        • Ahh …iPhones.
          I have not heard from Hurdle that Gomez is on a 50 pitch count.

          • It keeps getting reduced, Daq. I heard earlier this season directly from Hurdle’s mouth to my ears that he broke down after 75 pitches. Lately, on here that’s been reduced to 70, and today it changed to 50.

            I’m not saying he should have started. They were in a bind because Locke has stunk and needed a break. I don’t have the intelligence to decide who should have started today, but I liked Johnson in his debut the other day.

            DK: It’s not that anyone’s tune changed. It’s that Gomez became further and further removed from his last start. He wasn’t an option today, plain and simple.

  67. As expected – by me – if we lose Presley it would hurt.

    Well FYI, today Alex Presley the 28-year old “over-the-hill and unappreciated” former outfielder of the Pittsburgh Pirates batted 3-4 for Minnesota, scoring a run and driving in another.

    I wish him well.

    • Repeated from above:

      Hi Bob. Do you think the trade was a bad idea?
      I wish him the best, too, by the way. Same with Steve Pearce and many other Pirates fringe players.

      • I would prefer to say I didn’t like losing Presley. I saw more upside in him than most others (the ones who matter), and you know how loudly I beat the drum for him.

        I don’t wish anything negative on any player, I just liked this guy in particular, as to how he played.

        • I respect and appreciate your sentiment.

          Well done.

        • I’d revise my last line this way; jerks like Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark Maguire, Ryan Braun, and all of the PED users who lied before Congress will never get my support, a Christmas card or an invite for a beer.

          Presley always had on his game face, and never smiled on the bench. He ran everything out, and simply played baseball

          • Bob

            I always liked Presley, too. He just (1) ran out of options and (2) he was one of Littlefield’s guys. And, he never got the number of chances to succeed as compared to the likes of Tabata.

            • Never got enough chances??

              19 – Games
              23 – AB

              52 – Games
              215 – AB

              104 – Games
              346 – AB

              29 – Games
              72 – AB

              • So this is what you – or whom – decide what are enough chances? Why did you leave out the results as compared to Tabby?

                Do yourself a favor and don’t overlook the fiasco which took place in RF in 2012. Presley , McLouth, Tabby and Gorkys were all given cameo opportunities and in the case of Presley many of those AB’s are pinch-hitting appearances.

                Hardly a real chance!

            • I disagree strongly with your #2, in fact, I think it is one if the dumbest posts I have ever read. Why the heck would the fact that Presley was a Littlefield guy enter the equation?

              If that was the case, why are Cutch and Walker and Marte still on the team?

              • My response was to Gunner, not Bob or Playoffs.

                Go Bucs!

              • I don’t think being a “Littlefield guy” is in the least bit relevant either. But “one of the dumbest posts” ever?

                Chill. ;-)

              • Presley is nowhere near the caliber of player Cutch & Marte are. And NH’s hand was forced when he finally (& begrudgingly) promoted Walker to replace the unproductive bum Aki Iwamura. Also, your numbers do show AP got plenty of opportunities. However, you’ll have a tough sell convincing me that NH clearly favored Tabata over AP.

              • AW, thank you for your post.

                We are in a pennant race, and people are arguing over Alex Presley. Really? I mean really???

                And as to JD “chilling”, JD specializes in insults and causing trouble. He did it to me early this morning, and did it to Gunner just now. Not surprised at all.

          • Presley did do all of that, which is good. However, he takes way too many pitches on a regular basis, particularly borderline pitches with 2 strikes on him. He also hits the ball in the air way too much. Like Willie Mays Hays in the movie, he needs to hit the ball on the ground and take advantage of his speed more often to be a consistently effective hitter. Wishing him well in the future, but since the Bucs have apparently decided to go “all in”, trading him was a sacrifice they had to make

            • Hey man, I am fine with the Bucs trading Presley. Maybe Morneau will help put the Bucs over the top. And, even though I am not a fan of Tabata, JT has performed fairly well as of late.

              Most likely, Tabata or Presley will never be more than a 4th OFer, no matter what team they play for.

    • Ditto Bob. I like him as well. Best of luck to him.

    • Bob,

      I’ll give you credit.
      You stick to your guns.

      Come hell or high water,
      You stick to your guns.

      • Just pay attention to his performances henceforth, as I have done with McLouth.

        It could prove interesting.

        How can you not like this guy and the way he plays ball? And better than some (most) of the “slugs” against whom he was forced to compete.

      • Right will always be right, no matter which color you would like to paint it – even if only in MY eyes.

  68. I don’t think anyone wishes him ill will but, good grief, is there any player in the entire organization that the Pirates could trade without posts complaining about it?

    I learned when I was 4 years old and wanted cherry ju ju coins that the guy at the cash register wanted money for them.

  69. Wow.

    The Pirates go out and get 3 pieces for the stretch run, finally adress the hitting woes that have plagued the team most of the year, send a message to both the clubhouse, and their fans that they want to win, and here is what we get for the majority of the blog today……………..

    arguments over the starting pitcher, and Alex Presley.
    Alex Presley, a 4th outfielder at best. Come on.

    Regarding the crucification of Johnson here today, he had a fine outing the last time he pitched against Arizona (granted, small sample size), St. Louis normally doesnt do well against left-handers, and didnt have to worry about a pitch limit. The case could be made to start Gomez, then bring Johnson in after Gomez hit his pitch limit. For those wanting “The Olive” to start, he is a rookie also, who would have made his first start also.

    And Alex Presley. Oy.

    Just my one cent. ;)

    • Yep, let’s hope the Bucs can peel off a nice winning streak starting tomorrow & those Cardinals can’t find a way to win for a while.

  70. Holy crap. Some people have no sense of humor.

  71. The Pirates knew they needed a starter for several days and this was a VERY importamt game. Where in the world was Compton in all of this? Don’t tell me it was some sort of financial or contract issue having to use him. HE was the best choice here. As for Presley,
    the Pirates never gave him a proper chance, and by that I mean the guy, with all that speed
    should have been DEVELOPED into a slap/bunt/patient/get-on-base any way you can
    lead-off hitter. They let the fact that he hit a few homers with that low inside left-handed swing get into his head. The guy was used totally wrong.

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