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Final: Pirates 4, Brewers 3

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (80-57) vs. Milwaukee Brewers (59-79)

Starters: RHP Gerrit Cole vs. RHP Yovani Gallardo

Time: 8:10 p.m.

Site: Miller Park, Milwaukee

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Jose Tabata, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Justin Morneau, 1B
  5. Marlon Byrd, RF
  6. Russell Martin, C
  7. Josh Harrison, 3B
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Cole, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page. Travis Sawchik is on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. Some eyebrows to be raised with no Alvarez against a RHP, but closer look shows Pedro 1-20, .050 with 9 K’s lifetime against Gallardo.

    Interestingly, Harrison is 0-3 but Mercer is 3-9 versus Gallardo with a double and triple, almost would rather have given Mercer his second start at third but seeing how often the Brewers attempted and showed bunt yesterday may need the defense at the position.

    Go Bucs!

  2. THANK YOU to LAD 9 for posting the lines yesterday for me!
    I sincerely appreciate your help!


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Tonight’s Line
    Total HITS + WALKS + HBP by Justin Morneau in tonight’s game
    Line is 1.5

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    80 Down, only 2 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  3. Grilli activated for tonight…so who pitches 9th inning?

    • I think you have to go back to Grilli (although Melancon was phenomenal in the role). With the way Watson is throwing, CH has to like the ability to turn these into six inning games as the back end of this bullpen with a healthy Grilli may just be the best in baseball.

      Still have other arms to go to if a starter falters or shows cracks before end of the sixth….Wilson, Morris, Gomez, Mazzaro all can pitch in.

      Nice problem to have.

      • Please do not confuse this with logic, but it seems to me it might be a good idea to slip Grilli into a game in a less dramatic inning before turning him loose in the 9th?

        • That’s what I said earlier, Patrick. Let him become Grilli again before giving him Grilli’s job. I would not place him in a high leverage situation right away.

      • Not sure if I go with Grilli in a high leverage situation right away… maybe an 8th inning or a 9th inning with the Bucs up by 3 or more…

      • Funny how the further we get into the season, the less we hear about the bullpen being “overworked”.

        • Do you mean they’re no longer “on a pace” to throw 563 innings each? That should be trumpeted from the highest mountain. Yet you’re right, we don’t hear anything about it. I guess some people don’t like good news.

        • Grilli, even in the halcyon days of June, was never overworked. Melancon was certainly on a pace that was worrisome, but it wasn’t ‘off the charts’ as much as people were hyping it to be, at least IMHO.

          Fact is Clint did make a noticeable adjustment midsummer to leverage other relievers more and to push the starters to go deeper….

          • I was at the game on Friday, where Melancon was brought in to pitch the 9th inning with a 5-run lead because “he needed the work.”

      • Nice problem to have indeed. Grilli earned the closer role and we know it’s what he wants more than anything. That said, if I were the manager I’d have his first ML game action be in a lower leverage situation…. even if the Bucs are trailing or the game isn’t close… that lets him just focus on making the pitches and getting his bearings. But I won’t spend any time second guessing CH no matter what he does.

        How great is it to have Grilli back on Sep 3? VERY GREAT. Best bullpen in majors, by far, just got better.

        • Hurdle had to keep extending the team’s record when he had the chance… had to keep pushing it beyond 15 games over .500, beyond 18 games over, beyond 20 games over…. just to get to the point of the season where the team could manage an injury to a starter (or two), a reliever (or two), a position player, etc.

    • Rolo Tamasi

    • Jim Henderson.

    • Doesn’t matter since by 11pm the game will be so out of reach that the Shark Tank can tune in Jon Stewart, who is also back in the game.

    • Don’t know if anybody mentioned it or not, but the Pirates have said that they will use Grilli in “non-stress” situations. To see how he responds. They hope to have him back in the closer role later this month.

  4. Since the beginning of the 2011 season, the PBC have used 51 different pitchers (not including Josh Harrison), 75 total, with some degrees of success.

    2011: 25 pitchers
    2012: 24 pitchers
    2013: 26 pitchers

    Couldn’t have done that in any three year period from 1993 thru 2010… arms were there, as they are in every organization, but the difference in quality is huge.

    Does that constitute a flood of talent?

    • How many catchers and SS’s have they used over that period?

      This game is fun!

      :-P ;-)

    • In 2011 there were 11 pitchers that had 4+ ERA’s: Ascaino, Thompson, Crotta, Hughes, Locke, Beimel, Ohlendorf, Lincoln, Resop, Correia, Wood and carried others like Leroux, Burress, Moskos who were not very good pitchers.

      I would call 2011 a flood of necessity….they were trying to just find capable arms.

      In 2013 there are just 8 pitchers with ERA of 4+ and those individuals – McDonald, Irwin, Johnson, Sanchez (four starters that barely pitched), and Zagurski, Leroux, Black and Hughes (3 that did not last and Hughes who makes both lists).

      In 2013 I do think it is a flood of better depth that has been created.

      Amazingly,of the 2011 primary rotation of McDonald, Karstens, Correia, Morton and Maholm, all of those pitchers had .500 records (Correia 12-11) other than Maholm who might have been the best of the bunch and was 6-14.

      Huge difference in 2013 rotation of Liriano, AJ, improved Morton, Cole, Locke and Wandy when healthy.

  5. We’ve got to hit this guy sometime. We see him enough every season. Good time to do it tonight.

    They’re finishing out the season and we’re finishing our best one in over 20 years.

    • The Pirates have already beaten him twice this year. The time is now, he’s not whiffing 200 batters this season, even if he has gotten better since the all star break.

      • You’re right, John. We are 2 and 2 against him this year. I like your enthusiasm and Lucky’s.

        • The wins were 3-1 and 5-4 (with a 3-run inning)

          A nice 8-1 or 8-2 thumping of Yovani would suit me fine.

          • I’d love that as well, Lucky. But, at this point I think I’d settle for him playing the part of Nancy Kerrigan to an unknown Jeff Gilooly figure appearing out of the darkness of the clubhouse tunnel.

            • Don’t score too many, I’d settle for a nice 6-3 victory. That way they save some up for tomorrow. Jim, you might be the only person on this blog who was a bigger fan of ‘The Al Oliver Show’ than I was. Eddy Edwards was the host.

              • John:

                I don’t remember the Al Oliver show. But, I do remember Al Oliver. What a hitter.

                The Bucs used to churn out prospects like candy bars in those days, didn’t they?

                Oliver, Hebner, Zisk, Clines, Cash, Stennett, Parker, Robertson, +++. Every year a couple more would show up, and they could all hit.

  6. would there be more interest in Jon Stewart if I mentioned he went to college on a Soccer Scholarship? Shows you how even a misdirected youth can turn out OK.

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  8. Johnny Ray III—–

    You must be torn.

    As much as we all would like to see 82 happen as soon as possible,
    You must be rooting for that to happen on Friday or Saturday.

    • I am very torn. Team being in a pennant race I want to them to win each night and pile up the W’s as quickly as they can. On the other hand, would certainly be very special to witness in person #82 for what we have all enured and gone through the past 20 years.

      If I do see it, what a lucky coincidence that it just so happens to be my last planned trip to see team play.

    • Playoffs, I made an error above, as it turns out the Pirates will use Keyser Soze to close, not Rolo. Long live Kevin Spacy!

      • I was just talking to my sister last night about Keyser Soze. But it wasn’t a baseball discussion. ;-)

      • Speaking of Kevin Spacey, if anyone has not seen his new show on NetFlix, House of Cards, I think it is tremendous. And he is at his absolute best. I was not really a big fan of his before seeing him in that role. I believe Season 2 will be coming shortly. They release the entire season at one time.

        Ok, back to the Jon Stewart and Keyser Soze discussions.

      • HA!
        + MANY!!

  9. I’m not putting training wheels on Grilli. Turn his ass loose against the Brewers!

  10. Yayyy to the return of Grilli – hopefully this lessens the chances even more of us ever seeing Bryan Morris come in during a tight game. I swear, the guy is completely incapable of a 1-2-3 inning anytime the game is close in the later innings. And how about bombing Gallardo tonight…we owe him for last week. Go Buccos!

  11. A win is a win is a win. Just win baby, I’ll take a 1-0 win against the Brewers with a bases loaded walk driving in the winner for the old black and gold.

    81 would be VERY nice.

    To be followed by 82, of course.

  12. E:60 on espn2 is about to show the Cutch feature story.

  13. McCutchen about to be on E60 after the commercial break!

  14. Dang. What a great piece on Andrew McCutchen. It begs the question, What drives you?

    For me, Excellence! I wan to be excellent for those I sere and for my family. Guess I have something in common with Cutch!

    My takeaway…Don’t be the person who neglects the little things, because those who spend extra time doing the little things have the most success!


  15. Since when did a “Neal’d it” have more cache than a “Shero”… amazing times we live in.

    My column that is more Pens related than Pirates but figure some of you might have a good laugh at it.

  16. So… I guess there’s arguments all over the place about 81 or 82.

    82 is the number, always has been but that number should have always been just a number on the way to the ultimate goal, a division title and World Series championship.

  17. CUTCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. ahaha Cutch torches Gallardo!!!!

  19. Attaboy, Andrew!

  20. It was time, and a very good time for it! +100.

  21. Great day to get #100 Cutch!! 1-0 Bucs.

  22. Good evening Milo. Needing Baywatch now.

  23. Lead off walks kill ALL the time with this team. So much for that lead.

  24. Not Cole… not Cole at all….

    Brewers take the lead…..

  25. Now 2-1 Drunks and still no outs.

  26. And Cole helps himself out…nice!

  27. Gerrit Cole = Kevin Correia.

  28. Awesome catch by PRNW :)

  29. Jolly good show, Walker!

  30. Dear Plan,

    Do September Hippos wear white after Labor Day or is that gauche?



  31. Nice Morneau, repaid my faith in betting with you and not against you :)

  32. Byrd is da werd !!!!!!!!

  33. The Bird man brings in a run :)

  34. Bird is the word.

  35. Tonight’s complete hack impersonating an umpire is James Hoye.

  36. Billy Hamilton, pinch-running for the Reds, just stole his first MLB base (off Molina) in a 0-0 ballgame in the 7th. Go Reds!

  37. Hamilton scores on a base hit. 1-0 Reds!

  38. Nice….big K there

  39. was that supposed to be a BUNT? >:/

  40. Well that was a wasted inning.

  41. I just petitioned my Senator to introduce a bill that sanctions waving behind home plate while on your cell phone with cutting off of the arm.

    Oh, speaking of distractions behind home plate, I see Silicon Amy made another trip down to Milwaukee from Oshkosh.

  42. Be really nice to do our business tonight and tomorrow night and watch the Reds take all 4 from the Cardinals so they will be 3.5 back heading into this weekends series.

  43. And another big K!

  44. Cardinals down to their last three outs, having had two hits so far. 1-0 Redlegs!

  45. Question:

    What is Cole pitching that so many hits go into the right field corner???

  46. Watching the “Other” game. Chapman Ks Beltran. 1 out.

  47. Nice job Cole…

  48. Looks like both pitchers may not make it past the 6th inning…both pitch counts in the low 80′s…

  49. Will somebody please tell ROOT that it’s not 1977 anymore & there’s no reason to separate Morneau’s NL stats from his AL stats. There’s been interleague play since 1997 for goodness sakes.

  50. Nice hit Morny!!

  51. And Morneau solidifies the over :)

  52. Just watched Aroldis shoot a 103mph fb past an observant Holliday.

  53. Morneau hasn’t been retired tonight.

  54. Come on Russell…bring Morneau in…

  55. Chapman strikes out the side in the 9th and the Reds win 1-0!

  56. Great chance to gain another game tonight guys…let’s do it!!

  57. geesh… 103 MPH is so unfair…. Reds win.

    Come on you Pirates… win this game and extend the lead to 2 games over STL.

  58. pathetic at-bat by Harrison…. to swing on that pitch… ugh

  59. Oh jEEZ! what was he swinging at? A skeeter?

  60. Come on JHay…

  61. Freaking Gallardo…why do I feel like I can’t stand that guy? lol

  62. Martin and Harrison–as usual.

  63. Probably Cole’s last inning here…

  64. That pitch looked like a #1 draft choice(Ramirez so).

  65. Struck out the side. That’s the way to do it Gerrit.

  66. Dang, Cole was smokin ‘em there!

  67. NICE inning by Cole….

  68. Cole is pitching, not worried about the lack of K’s but right there… he threw the STFD 98 mph fastball to Gomez.

  69. Cole hit 90 pitches that inning. How ’bout Grilli for the 7th?

  70. Cole due up 2nd…may have pitched himself to one more inning…

  71. OK Loonies, 4am comes too soon….gonna shut down the lappy…maybe turn the game on upstairs.
    GO BUCS!

  72. Reminded of Sausage Gate with Randall Simon as I am listening to the radio side on Sirius. Simon always reminded me of Serrano from Major League complete with voodoo tchotchkes.

  73. Hmmmm…seems like a good inning for another 3-run bomb….

  74. Three lefty batters due up, here comes the righthander.

  75. Come on offense. Just one more run!

  76. With Cutch’s speed, I was shocked to hear he has been caught 7 times this year.

  77. I really want 82 to come in Milwaukee. But need 81 first.

  78. Well friends at the asylum I must retire also 5:00 a.m. comes too soon. Night all bring home a win.

  79. That Justin Morneau guy, he’s a professional hitter.

  80. Nice sequense by the Bucs. Cutch breaks for 2nd, shortstop pulls to the bag and Morneau sends the ball through the hole vacated by the shortstop.

  81. Wonder if the Cardinals are watching this game tonight in the club house, like they were last week. Beat they had a different reaction this time then they had last time they watched from the club house – at this juncture.

  82. Just a Sac fly Byrd man…

  83. BYRD MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. Byrd… what a get for the Pirates!

  85. New acquisitions paying off!

    Pirates up by a run.

  86. Sleepy time for me too. Be good and if you can’t be good, don’t get caught! :-)

  87. Hi Neal and Frank! Great pick up there with Byrd and Morneau.

  88. The BYRD is THE WOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. Byrd does it again! 3-2 Bucs and 2nd and 3rd with one out. Come on Martin!! More runs!!

  90. That’s what middle of the lineup guys do folks…

  91. Did I just hear JW use the “C” word? You can’t say clutch!

  92. Sirrius is about three minutes behind the blog. Making me nuts!

  93. They have to five a pass on Pete.

  94. Come on Gaby…

  95. Really stupid managing by Hurdle there to correctly call on Pedro to PH for Harrison but to follow that up with Sanchez while Snider is available just makes me scratch my head.

  96. Ummmmm…why is my cousin Vinny still in there????

  97. Stupid lead off walk to a pinch hitter. Come on Mazzaro – pitch!

  98. Brewers announcers are scratching their heads on some of Clint’s moves as well. But, hey, the guy has Ochozero wins.

    Why is no one throwing in Pirates bullpen ? It’s after 09/01 Clint.

  99. Can we get VM the H out of there! Come on Man!

  100. Ump hates Martin ALL night, so we are not getting the same calls that the brewers were getting.

  101. I guess Hurdle doesnt realize that this is September baseball and every win COUNTS from here on out.

  102. Does anybody have any idea what’s going on here ? Nobody even throwing. And there are 9 pitchers out there.

  103. Quality managing by Hurdle. We have games to waste.

  104. Mazzaro doesnt do it again.

    And………. no one up in the bullpen.

    YIKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  105. #Hurdled

    Top 8th…. Sanchez bats, not Snider
    Bot 8th…. Vin Mazzaro pitches…..

    NOT a fan of this inning for Clint Hurdle….

  106. Grilli should be up here in the pen if he isnt going to be used as the closer!

  107. Clint blew that one as two lead off walks have scored on the night. Mazzarro should NOT still be in there, but he is.

  108. I don’t understand this at all…Gomez…Grilli…Morris….Hughes…

  109. How about Melancon in 8th, Grilli in 9th? Remember.

  110. Tony Watson threw 12 pitches on Sunday and 13 pitches yesterday. Tony Watson pitched in a game they were losing 7-2.

  111. The Brewers will not freaking go away!!!

  112. Vintage hurdle! A head scratching last 20 minutes or so

  113. Double play was nice there – but losing the lead…UGH!!!!

  114. I hate Mazzarro – and Wilson – Clint should be fired for losing this game – if they lose it…

    What an idiot!


  115. Many years ago, my friends and I would talk about “Tournament nerves”

    Folks, we need Tournament nerves right now

  116. Well, they got a break there. Mercer was moving to cover the bag and Lucroy hit into the DP. Would’ve been a basehit if runner wasn’t going.

  117. Mazzarro should NEVER be pitching in a set up role…

  118. Golden opportunity to go up 2 and keep the Reds at bay, while letting Reds do the dirty work, frittered away. Frittered, not exactly the term I want to use there.

  119. How big was it that no one came through in the top of the 8th after Byrd put us up one …..runners on 2nd and 3rd, one out, and we can’t get a run home

  120. Jim Henderson on for the 9th. I believe I had that.

  121. Walk a leadoff 180 hitter and that is what you get. Poor management by Hurdle.

  122. Was Hurdle afraid to use Grilli???

  123. dripping with……yea, you know it.

  124. Hurdle’s a genius !!

  125. OMG!!!!!!!!!

    SNIDER !!!!!!!!


  126. WOW! Snider with a bomb of a shot! 4-3 good guys!

  127. PH HR by Snider… like I said… where was that in 8th inning…. BOOM!

  128. Belay my last.

  129. Travis Snider with maybe his biggest hit as a member of the Pittsburgh Pirates, wow!

  130. The tool box brought the hammer!!!!!!

  131. Hell Yeah!!! Snider rips Henderson’s hanging slider.

    Clint knew that the Brewers’ pen STINKS!

  132. And Mazarro is going to get the win if this score holds up.

  133. Saved by lunchbox!

  134. Dripping with power. Take that Bernie Bozo.

  135. Snider my boy!!! Glad he didn’t K there. Bucs back up 4-3.

  136. And in the Cardinals club house a whole lot of (*Y*&%&^%$*&%(*&^()*&^*(&%*&% are now being explained, lead by Lance Lynn

  137. Travis Snider destroys mistakes.

    What a great welcome from Clint when he got back to the dugout.

  138. Tony Sanchez leads the league in picking his nose.

  139. Hey Neal – where you able to read the word Rawlings on that ball as you were swinging under it? No, then the next time, the pitch will come in a little bit higher so your able to next time.

  140. If I’m Hurdle, I send Vinny out there for the bottom of the ninth just to mess with y’all.

  141. 3 outs away from winning #81….

  142. Mini-Van Time!!!

  143. Come on Sharkman! Shut this scum down in the 9th for 81!!

  144. If they hold on and get win 81 tonight – how appropriate would it be to put up double digits on the Brewers tomorrow night to get 82?

  145. Should I go wake my kids so they can see something that has not happened since long before they were born ?

  146. I knew it. Just in time for Jon Stewart!

  147. Neverette is going to have an orgasm on the air, over win #81.


  148. It’s like New Year’s Eve 1999.

  149. One more time Shark!!!!!!!!!!!

  150. You had to know this wasn’t going to be easy…

  151. The streak will not be able to buy booze…ever!

  152. AJ & Locke remind me of the old men in the Muppet balcony.

  153. I would not want to high -five Tony Sanchez

  154. Behind a 9th inning solo HR from Travis Snider, 7 hits, 3 RBI’s and 3 runs from the Pirates 3-4-5 hitters Cutch, Morneau and Byrd and a save from Mark Melancon the Bucs take the series from Milwaukee sinking the Brewers 4-3 and there was noooooooooooo doubt about it.

    With the win the Bucs ensure a non-losing season as they improve to 81-57 and take a 2 game lead in the NL Central. The Bucs are now 12-6 versus Milwaukee and 36-32 on the road while starting the month of September 2-1.

    The Pirates will go for the sweep tomorrow evening with Francisco Liriano taking the ball for the Buccos.

    Let’s Go Bucs!

  155. Hey Nevrette – its not over yet!

  156. At long last. Part one of two.

  157. ….fear the Bones….

  158. Awesome!

    2 game lead in the division.
    Nice to see win #81, but it really doesnt do much for me.
    Clutch performances for Morneau, Snider, and Melancon in the 9th.

    Raise that Jolly Hippo!

  159. No way teams are finishing season 81-81….

    2013 the losing streak was snapped

    Now, let’s get 82 tomorrow and make it legit with a winning season.

  160. Eighty One! And bought with the bat of the ever dangerous Travis Snyder!

  161. Even MLB says the streak is over!

  162. Hee! Hee! I’m a bit giddy.

  163. Snider is a deadline pickup by Neal Huntington.

    NH = Exec of the Year

  164. You had to know the number 21 would be special to the Pirates. Year 21 ends the streak

  165. Just for historical perspective, the last time this happened H.W. was shoving broccoli off his plate and Boyz II Men’s “End of the Road” was tearing up the charts.

  166. I consider the streak officially over with 81.

    That’s philosophical…not mathematical.

  167. Step one complete…

  168. Revenge is best served with French fries and Cole slaw…

    On a Sandwich!

    Happy 81 Family!

  169. Eat your heart out Prince. Tonight we’re gonna party like its 1992!

  170. Just saw the film of Aroldis Chapman blowing the Cards away in their ninth inning. It would be a good move to have the lead after eight when we play them down the stretch.

    But – we just beat a closer tonight.

  171. EIGHTY-ONE!!

    Yes, I’m shouting and the champagne is officially on ice for tomorrow’s streak-buster.

    Whew, that was a really long 20 years…

  172. The last 81 – September 9, 1992 – Pirates 13 Cubs 8. Danny Cox got the win in relief of Randy Tomlin. Jeff King hit a grand slam. Jay Bell & Gary Varsho also homered. Alex Cole went 4 for 5 and Barry Bonds stole his 33rd base.

    And it happened in front of a raucous crowd of 10,853 at Three Rivers Stadium. I can’t say I remember it well but I’m sure it went largely without notice.

  173. Amazing game! So many guys came through all night long.

    I think Hurdle is Manager of the Year, but I would not submit the 8th inning of this game as evidence. He seemed to get enamored with all of his newfound roster spots and lost his way for awhile. But, he got the magic touch back in the 9th and called Lunch Box’s number just in the nick of time. I suppose #81 was meant to go like this. It was not supposed to be easy for the Bucs, and that makes it all the sweeter. When we get #82 tomorrow, I suspect it may be equally difficult. After that, they can concentrate on bigger things.

    Congrats to Travis for a huge HR! Congrats to Marlon & Justin for professional at bats all night long! Congrats to Garrett Cole, who pitched a dominating game once he got past a rough and unfortunate 1st inning! And, finally, congrats to Cutch, who blasted a no doubter for #100 tonight.


    LET’S GO BUCS!!!

    IT IS NOT 21!

  175. For everyone hung up on numbers, Saturday was only #79 but we celebrated the hell out of that one. Well past my bedtime even.

  176. Ok, I’m officially a believer. And for all of you true Pirates fans, those who stood with the team throughout the unreal mess of the past twenty years, I salute you. Very happy for all of you.

  177. WAAAYYYY to much fretting tonight about Clint Hurdle. Mazzaro was used tonight as a bridge pitcher just like he has been used all season long. So he gave up one run. Now everybody’s second guessing Hurdle?? Well, not everybody. The usual suspects showed up to bitch. But a few respected posters joined in the silliness, too. Don’t get me wrong — I respect everybody’s right to be as silly as they want with their posts. Heck, I’m reporting right here that immediately after this I’m going off to aerate Hippo’s pond in celebration! But go back up and hour or two and see for yourselves how gloomy and doomy and disparaging of Mr. Hurdle the discussion was.

    • COULDN’T AGREE MORE. This man, Clint Hurdle, has done more for this franchise than ever will be truly recognized. He is an awesome leader and he has made great strides this year in his urgency, lineup choices and holding players accountable.

      It is way, way, way too easy to bitch and moan about every managerial move. Clint doesn’t flinch, he makes the moves he sees fit to make. They don’t all work but a damn great deal of them do work. Would we rather have John Russell back? Good God… Jim Tracy?? How was Lloyd’s game management skills? you don’t know because the team never was really in a race during his 5-year tenure? Gene Lamont is well-respected but he failed as Bucs manager.

      That off my chest, I quietly was wondering why Mazarro went the 2nd inning tonight… but to be clear, Watson was used past 2 days, so he was likely unavailable. Morris and Wilson have both pitched a ton, and there are many on this blog that would have bitched if Morris was used. Gomez just pitched 3 innings on Sunday I believe. Grilli wasn’t going to be used in a full leverage situation, per Clint before the game. So if you take a breath and think about it, not all that surprising they went with Vin for a 2nd inning. It’s not like he got lit up like a Christmas tree, either.

      And I can’t take ANYONE seriously who was calling for Travis Snider to pinch hit in the 8th and not Gaby Sanchez, who has been quite good as of late…

      Sorry, a bit grumpy about the ridiculous second guessing Hurdle gets in this blog. Raise the Jolly Roger, this team is accomplishing great things, and many of you believe the greatest accomplishment is bailing out this horrible manager they have the burden of carrying all year.

      • “Sorry, a bit grumpy about the ridiculous second guessing Hurdle gets in this blog.”
        No, no. Better put than I did. No one would have said a word about Hurdle if Mazzaro had hummed along. But as soon as Vin gives up a run? Oh, the HORROR!

  178. Happy Day! And what a special, special win … even if didn’t carry any “breaking the streak” significance. This one was SWEET. And I think our boy Cole came of age a little bit!

  179. Tweet from Milwaukee Brewers beat writer, Adam McCalvy:

    Adam McCalvy ‏@AdamMcCalvy 3m

    Great stuff from Clint Hurdle, who said the Clemente family told him, “We can’t have 21 losing seasons.” Roberto, of course, wore No. 21.

    PS: Anybody with the baseball package, check out the Twins/Astros game in Houston. There literally can not be more than 300 people in that stadium.

    • +21.
      + Vera.
      + Roberto Jr, Luis, and Enrique.

      RIP Great One !

    • Isn’t that something, John! I tried to check it out, then realized once again when I got there that all games played by the ‘Stros are blacked out for me because TECHNICALLY I’m in their market – 4 hours drive from Houston, here in East Texas.

      • Yes, those black out rules are whacked!

        I’m too jazzed to fall asleep. Tried watching the Stros/Twins to put me to sleep but it didn’t work-I’m just too damn excited!

        • I was pretty sleepy – until I started catching up on all the posts here. It’s really, really special! Kind of a New Year’s Eve feel.

    • 299 more than probably want to be there, too.

  180. There were just over 20k at the Reds vs Cardinals game tonight.


  181. Couldn’t help it tonight. I’m all emotion. Here’s a piece titled “Thank you, Pittsburgh Pirates”

    • “For Jason Grilli. For Jason Kendall. For Jason Bay.”

      A lot of chills ran down my spine, recalling all the moments and all the names from the present and past you touched on. Even a Keith Osik mention!

      As yes, Clint Hurdle has delivered on one his promises already: Pittsburgh and Bucco fans have “re-bonded with the Pirates.”

    • Awesome! Thank you Adam.

    • Awesome. Really enjoyed that, man. Agree totally.

      Maybe add, ” heres to Gene and Big Black, and even Sleepy, who all managed in the Worst of times, never in the Best.”

  182. Ants have marched, BTW = = = = = = = = …

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