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Final: Cardinals 12, Pirates 8

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (81-58) vs. St. Louis Cardinals (80-60)

Starters: RHP A.J. Burnett vs. RHP Joe Kelly

Time: 8:15 p.m.

Site: Busch Stadium, St. Louis

TV, radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s the Pirates’ lineup …

  1. Jose Tabata, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Justin Morneau, 1B
  5. Marlon Byrd, RF
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Burnett, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates pageRob Biertempfel is on the scene.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Line #1
    Total Combined HITS by Marlon Byrd + Justin Morneau in tonight’s game
    Line is 2.5

    Line #2
    Total Combined HOMERUNS by Pedro Alvarez + Garrett Jones this weekend against the Cardinals
    Line is 1.5

    Line #3
    Total WINS by the Pirates this weekend against the Cardinals
    Line is 1.5

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    81 Down, only 1 more to go!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & BREAK .500

  2. theplanisworking says:

    GO BUCS !!!!

    Need to get these guys while they are a bit down.

  3. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Anybody heard anything else about Marte?
    It sounds like this is a much bigger problem than we were led to believe.
    I firmly feel that Marte is a massive key to the success they’ve had this year….And any success they have as this season winds down (playoffs included).
    I hope he gets back AND I hope he’s well enough to contribute if, and when he does return.
    It seems like this is a big question mark.

  4. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    No question….Two outta three wouldn’t be bad.

  5. 1) 100 over
    2) 100 under
    3) 100 over

  6. Max says:


  7. Bill maloni says:

    Too late but I would play Jones and sit Tabata, with Byrd going to Left.

    Bat Neil or Jones first and go from there.

  8. cmat0829 says:

    100 each:

    1) OVER
    2) UNDER
    3) OVER

  9. cmat0829 says:

    Tabby much better hitting option at this point than Jones…..

  10. JaxBuc says:

    Please sir, may I have 100 unnamed units on the OVER for line one?
    That is all.

  11. cmat0829 says:

    Not sure we were led to believe anything about the injury… when you hear that he can’t swing the bat with two hands, then you know he is not close to being ready to resume playing games. seems to me in the past week the broadcasters have indicated he has tried to swing the bat with one hand, the other day he took a few swings with 2 hands… if he can do that consistently then he may be ready to face live pitching with Indy in the playoffs.

    No doubt Marte is important to this team… a lot of us seem to forget he has been out since August 19th when we post about the Pirates ‘treading water’ since then. That’s actually great to still be in first place despite losing such a catalyst to the offense for 3 weeks.

  12. bizrow says:

    100 nuke nuggets on the over for all three lines

    Thanks Playoffs, as per usual, great lines

    Beat Em Bucs

    Go like 60

  13. Arriba Wilver says:


  14. Karen22 says:

    100 each:

    1. Over
    2. Under
    3. Over

    I’d really like to break out the Mad Hatter tonight!
    82 or BUST!

  15. BDHumbert says:

    Call me crazy – but 100 on the over for all three!!!!

  16. Dom says:

    LINE 1: 100 OVER!!!
    LINE 2: 100 UNDER!!!
    LINE 3: 100 OVER!!!


  17. NMR says:

    When Marte is “on”, I agree.

    But the other half of the time, not so much.

    I bet a lot of people would be surprised to learn whether Marte Tabata has a higher OPS against righties.

  18. TK says:

    Line 1 – 100 on the OVER
    Line 2 – 100 on the UNDER
    Line 3 – 100 on the OVER

  19. Dom says:

    Has DK been on Keith Olbermann’s show as of yet?

  20. Lad9 says:

    Line 1 – over
    Line 2 – under
    Line 3 – over

    All for 100 please. Thank you. Go Buccos!!

  21. Nate83 says:

    Agree, Tabby > Jones right now. Has done nothing in his last 100 at bats to warrent being behind Jones.

  22. toochca says:

    1) Over
    2) Over
    3) Over

  23. Nate83 says:

    +1 Marte not as good as perceived. He may end up there eventually but not yet.

  24. Jason81 says:

    Line 1 – 100 on the OVER

    Line 2 – 100 on the UNDER

    Line 3 – 100 on the OVER

  25. NMR says:


  26. Mrevo says:

    Do no care to see Jones bat ever again.

  27. Mrevo says:

    Maybe I was a little harsh there.

  28. Bill Born says:

    100 units on each:

    Line 1 under

    Line 2 under

    Line 3 under

  29. Big B says:

    About time I jump in on this!

    100 on the over for all three please.

  30. cmat0829 says:

    haha… no better yet:


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  32. NMR says:

    The hit collector!

  33. NMR says:

    A friend talked him into it. Man.

    Still can’t take the blame, can he?

  34. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    First of all…I’m not suggesting anything “sinister” when I say we were led to believe Marte’s injury wasn’t that bad.
    I think the team felt it would come around quicker, and it hasn’t.
    As far as comparing Marte to Tabata….I feel that is like comparing a seat in first class on a trip to London, to the back end of coach.
    I don’t need cherry picked stats to tell me who the better player is….It’s quite obvious that it’s Starling Marte.

  35. kr70 says:

    #1 100 on the over and thanks

  36. kr70 says:

    Hope AJ gets it done tonight. along with Cutch he has been the face of the franchise.

  37. NMR says:

    Obviously the better player is Marte. Nobody suggested otherwise.

    But I submit that he isn’t yet as good of a hitter as he’s made out to be.

  38. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Line 1: 100 Over

    Line 2: 100 Under

    Line 3: 100 Over

  39. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Which means he’s only going to get better.

    I agree with you, he’s not even touching his potential yet.

  40. Baywatch says:

    Fixin’ to shove off for work, Gang. Just wanted to let you know I’m linked elbow-to-elbow with each one of you, CLAIMING No. 82!

  41. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Since coming of the DL I think Tabata has surprised many. He’s actually putting up decent numbers and is more than adequate backup.

    He’s still a future 4th OFer for this team though. Good problems to have.

  42. NMR says:


    Can’t wait to get him back in left field and on the base paths, regardless of how many hands he catches with.

  43. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:


  44. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I posted this on the other thread, silly me. Cutch getting more national attention.

  45. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Still. A. DB

  46. NMR says:

    That role might actualy fit him well.

    Easier on the body, and no need to suffer through his slumps.

  47. cmat0829 says:

    i think the aggressive trade for Byrd and then also picking up Morneau told us all we needed to know re: Marte. Be interesting to see who comes back first, Marte or Allen Craig to the Cards… I’m hoping Marte obviously…. but not counting on it prior to the Padres series.

  48. Line #1 – 100 on the over
    Line #2 – 50 on the under
    Line #3 – 50 on the under

  49. cmat0829 says:

    Not sure who is advising cryin’ Ryan, but rule #1 of Fight Club (er, I mean Rebuild Your Image Club) is to SHUT THE HELL UP unless whatever you are going to say is sincere and worth saying.

    I just don’t think Ryan is in the least sincere, so until he shows that he is, he needs to STFD.

    Calling up season ticket holders and once again falling well well short of actual contrition is nauseating.

  50. cmat0829 says:

    Good to see the restaurant group that was running his Italian restaurant as well as the 8-12 sports restaurant (with Aaron Rodgers) has severed all ties and the restaurants will be renamed. Braun is a loser and I’m so glad he isn’t a Pirate.

  51. stickyweb says:

    Playoffs, 100 each on:

    UNDER line 1
    UNDER line 2
    OVER line 3


  52. pattonbb says:

    Line 1 – 100 UNDER
    Line 2 – 100 UNDER
    Line 3 – 100 OVER

  53. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I never said I was sincere, quite calling me out

  54. bizrow says:

    All in ;-)

  55. Chuck H says:

    Today’s lineup looks fine with the exception of Sir Whiffs-a-Lotte (Alverez). I would sit him
    until he stops swinging at bad pitches way outside the strike zone. He is most certainly
    an automatic out right now. I thought that I read that he was becoming more focused
    and selective at the plate, but the last at-bat I saw, he looked like the Keystone Cops
    flailing away at pitches in the dirt or way wide. In fact, the last time he was on base, he got
    there by letting a pitch hit him. In the stretch run, we need more hits, not necessarily
    home runs, but good singles and doubles. GO, BUCS!!!

  56. theplanisworking says:


    I should shoot myself for putting that in.

  57. radio wave says:

    Playoffs: I will take 100 over for number one. I will take 50 over for number two. I will take 100 over for number three.

  58. toochca says:

    Do they get to ask him questions or just listen to him talk?

  59. radio wave says:

    Rodrigues is pitching a rehab for Indy in tonight’s playoff game.

  60. MadTurk says:

    Can we move Pedro down to hit like 8th or 9th please.

  61. toochca says:

    How will you know that he has stopped swinging at bad pitches if he is collecting splinters?

    I agree we need more hits from him and dont like his approach at the plate either! I too wish he would use the WHOLE field. I would even settle for a productive ground ball with runners on third!!

  62. Dadtackular says:

    line 1 100 on the over
    line 2 100 on the under
    line 3 100 on the under

  63. JRay3 says:

    Good evening to the window from section 159 inside very nice Busch stadium where many Bucs fans are out and we are all sharing stories on what hopes to be a historic night. Also Cutch was locked in during BP watch out.

    Line 1 – 75 on the OVER

    Line 2 – 75 on the UNDER

    Line 3 – 75 on the OVER

    Let’s Go Bucs

  64. Bill Born says:

    2 innings in -0 runs – 1 hit- 1 strikeout. Wandy’s night so far

  65. Irish says:

    100 on Over for Line 1
    100 on Under for Line 2
    50 on Over for Line 3
    Thanks, Playoffs!

  66. theplanisworking says:

    You are our good luck charm !!

  67. theplanisworking says:

    Mr. Playoffs, may I please have the following………..

    Line 1 — 100 Cake and Confetti Hippos on the OVER
    Line 2 — 100 Back-slapping Hippos on the UNDER
    Line 3 — 100 82 Win Hippos on the OVER.

    GO BUCS !!!

  68. pattonbb says:

    Could be a tough one tonight. Kelly’s been hard to figure out for these guys.

  69. bizrow says:

    We’re due

    Hidden vigorish

  70. War Horse says:

    Line #1 – 100 on the OVER

    Line #2 – 100 on the OVER

    Line #3 – 100 on the OVER

    Many thanks.

  71. SeanAY says:

    The Best Pure Hitter in the System (TM), as I recall.

  72. piratemike says:

    They should only play him when he is going to hit a HR.

  73. Jandy says:

    Along with the BMTIB and the Buccos themselves, I am ALL IN!!!!
    100 ALL IN Units on the over for all three lines, please! Thanks, Playoffs, for keeping this so much fun.

    Go Bucs!!!!

  74. Jandy says:


  75. Jandy says:

    Say three hail Jandy’s for your penance ;)

  76. Jandy says:

    No, Dom

  77. Jandy says:

    Newbies and lurkers, we know you’re out there! We want to chat with you. If you post your hometown, Bizrow will add it to the list of Dejan’s Lunatics’ Asylum.
    Don’t be shy, we don’t bite :)

  78. theplanisworking says:


    I have cake, confetti and balloons…… lets get a W tonight.

    Dont want to clean this up for nothing again………….. ;)

  79. Jandy says:

    Friggin p*ssy!

  80. theplanisworking says:

    LIAR, LIAR, HABIT ON FIRE !!!!!!!!!! :)

  81. Jandy says:

    Hey Hipposter! Got my bet in, hubby wants to e-bay a bit. I’ll come back later on. Or maybe get my phone and try a few comments…even tho i hate it. lol
    Cake YUMMY!!!!!!!

  82. Jandy says:

    Shhhh!! Don’t be skeerin the new loonies away ;)

  83. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Hey….That’s a normal night here!

  84. theplanisworking says:

    Yeah, you are a party legend !!!!!

  85. Jandy says:

    normal is debatable…but yeah…fun times in the Looney Blog :)

  86. theplanisworking says:

    Oops……… sorry. ;)

  87. Jandy says:

    Silly Hippo, see you in a bit ;)

  88. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Just turned the game on and realized the Cards have sent the dreaded Joe Kelly right back out to face the Pirates again.

  89. Karen22 says:

    OH GREAT! Anyone else have the DISH??

    Having major problems, apparently – NO signal, and the radio stations here are broadcasting HS football instead of the Pirates!


  90. pattonbb says:

    Bases loaded for Alvarez.

    Any bets on how this will end?

  91. theplanisworking says:

    Simply cannot leave the bases loaded and get nothing for it.

  92. Barb says:

    I’d lose. Guess what……ground out. GRRRRR!

  93. pattonbb says:

    I guess a weak ground out is more promising than a K.

    Time for El Toro to return.

  94. florida steeler says:

    The guy is killing the offense.

  95. theplanisworking says:

    Got any rabbits close by?

  96. Jandy says:

    Well that sucks Karen. My Dish has the game on

  97. MadTurk says:

    Now there is an idea. :-)

  98. pattonbb says:

    uh oh

    May have picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

  99. theplanisworking says:

    Bad play by Cutch.

    They need to wake up before it is too late.

  100. florida steeler says:

    When you walk leadoff batters, bad things happen. Wish Walk would shut the hell up.

  101. DJ says:

    Pedro has had probably the worse stretch of at bats I have seen over the last week. He looks clueless at the plate anymore. With multiple opportunities to rise to the occasion he has only wilted.

  102. Karen22 says:

    Never mind…Hubby was #750 in line to “chat” with them (obvious problems here in Indiana, PA), but the signal returned just in time to see Petey FAIL with the bases loaded.

    And the Cards’ half inning was even worse. EGAD!! AJ & Cutch. WTH??

    I blame Sports Illustrated!

  103. Karen22 says:


  104. florida steeler says:

    He should be batting 8th until he snaps out of it–IF HE DOES.

  105. DJ says:

    I could be easily persuaded to 7th, with 8th definitely on the come if we see more of this. He’s been absolutely horrible.

    He is totally out of rhythm, meaning only more so than usual for him. Looks at pitches right down the middle and swings at breaking balls at his cleats. Seemed to start right after Hurdle put Byrd at clean-up and then continued with Morneau bumping him from the 5th spot.

    I would like to see him go up to the plate swinging with conviction but he has none right now.

  106. DJ says:

    Morneau isn’t Gaby in the field, that’s for sure. We’re seeing his range, or lack thereof. The ball in the first went right under his glove.

  107. irishjim says:

    This game is a disaster. The champagne is going to spoil if this crap keeps up.

  108. The Gunner says:

    This isn’t exactly what I had in mind for the Bucs tonight.

  109. florida steeler says:

    This is what you get with Burnett. Having an ok year but check his performances in games that count and playoff appearances. Not stellar.

  110. DJ says:

    It reminds me that some were suggesting we sign him to another 2 years earlier in the season.

    Love what he has brought the last two years to change the team mindset, and how he has helped other pitchers, but would think long and hard about even one more year (at a team-friendly price, not 10 mill) and that’s assuming he decides he wants to play.

    I see him as a bridge to the future, nothing more at this stage.

  111. The Gunner says:

    We have to stay positive and hope they can make a comeback tonight. The big boys are due up for the Bucs next inning.

  112. DJ says:

    I’m a positive guy, but it doesn’t seem to be rubbing off on the team tonight.

  113. Mrevo says:

    Ok, who do we start in the wild card game now? We’re. Down to one reliable starter, Chollie.

  114. The Gunner says:


  115. DJ says:

    Geeeez . . . finally.

  116. theplanisworking says:

    Well, after the ump blew the Martin HPB, I have seen enough.
    You guys remaining root for a comeback.
    I have to go.

    Go Bucs. Please go away umps.

  117. Reading says:

    Can anybody get a clutch hit? Anyone? Anyone? Beuler?

  118. florida steeler says:

    Cards get hits when they count–Bucs don’t. Reds won again, things looking bad. Cards have five runs on six hits with no homers–pretty impressive RISP batting.

  119. Eric Bowser says:

    Talk about a frustrating game to watch…

  120. Reading says:

    Doom and gloom post: This will probably be the last night the Pirates are in first place. Pitching non-existent. Slumping bats. 82 in a holding pattern. Not good.

  121. florida steeler says:

    It is a great season and happy to be in a pennant race but facts are we are not as good as the Cards or the Reds. But, let’s enjoy–anything can happen. Not sure the 60 Bucs were better than the Yankees, but………….

  122. irishjim says:

    Bringing in Hughes followed by Morris is the equivalent of waving the white flag.

  123. florida steeler says:

    Hurdle has a Dubble Bubble degree in waving the white flag. Locke vs Wainright tomorrow–good luck with that one.

  124. KenKopp says:

    Had to go out to dinner tonight for a retirement gig for the wifes work. Felt selfish because I couldn’t watch the game. Thank goodness I get to be home tomorrow night when we win and the Reds lose and we are back to rubber game Sunday and the Steelers to boot. Sports is fun. Not so much tonight.

  125. Ghost says:

    That’s the spirit!

  126. Ghost says:

    All right, the rest of you guys… I’m here to say, “Stop all this gory talk!” We’ve had the Cards number more than they’ve had ours, this season. Today is a stinker ( a real “pee yew-er”), but tomorrow is another day. Take it from me. The Blog wasn’t letting me log in at all today (possibly because I was being sanctioned?), but I lived to talk about it and grace you guys tonight with my charming presence!! If that doesn’t lift your spirits… !! :o

  127. Eric Bowser says:

    Molina standing at plate, if I was pitching, next hitter is getting buzzed.

  128. radio wave says:

    My wife the Cardinals fan will not change the channel. Will the snacks for the 82 win keep until tomorrow?

  129. Ghost says:

    I’ll eat ‘em!

  130. KenKopp says:

    I thought I read this morning before I went to work that Ghost was dead. Must have been dreaming. Now I’m reading from bloggers The Bucs are dead. 12-1 loss (or quite possibly worse) doesn’t matter. Same as 1-0 in the W-L column. We are going to wake up in the am in first place with a game to play. And the score will start 0-0 with Locke on the mound. I’m good and excited for tomorrow to come.

  131. KenKopp says:

    Me too. Stale Ruffles! Yum.

  132. Baywatch says:

    Circle The Wagons!

  133. Reading says:

    Even if the Pirates make the Playoffs (?), and somehow face the Cards in the NLCS, the Cards just need to pitch Clark Kent in 3 games, and find someone else to win 1 of the other 4 games. Ballgame.

  134. Reading says:

    Can’t even blame the SI cover jinx, since I got the Alabama cover.

  135. irishjim says:

    Who knows we could have a tie game if worthless Hughes and Morris weren’t used. Can they both please go away forever.

  136. Ghost says:

    Clark Kent — Good one! (But that guy had his Kryptonite. We just gotta find out what the heck it is.)

  137. Steelag70 says:

    Let’s face it…we can’t beat Kelly..

  138. Steelag70 says:

    Ken…glad you are. This team is still too Jeckyll and Hyde. Cincy is playing the most consistent baseball right now and we seem to take one step forward and two steps back…

  139. Ghost says:

    No, you weren’t dreaming. Hippo thinks he had a hand in killing me, but I’m guessing it was DK. Thankfully, I’ve been allowed to come back and resume haunting you guys. As for Hippo — he’s. all. mine. (Rubs ghostly hands menacingly.)

  140. Baywatch says:

    What’s up with the 12-3 final posted above the thread? It’s 12-5, and going to the top of the 9th!

  141. Probably already said, but this game was totally lost in the first inning. From not being able to do anything with bases loaded, to the very bad mistake of not blocking that ball from getting by Cutch in the bottom of the inning. Either one of those things goes different, this game may not have been the smelly roadkill that it became. They still have two left against the Cards. All they really have to do is win one to leave STL in first place. I would really like to see it be 2.5 ahead of the Cards by winning both. As happened tonight, the Dodgers will probably take the series off against the Reds in order to keep all the pressure on the Bucs to do something. I really hope Locke straightened his head out by that demotion and that Charlie keeps his good vibes going. Hopefully Wainwright continues to implode and let us score this many tomorrow night. As Iw rite, the bases are loaded with only 1 out, and the game is 12-6, even though DK has given up at 12-3 with a Final above. Come on Buccos!!

  142. irishjim says:

    Hey the tying run is in the hole….depressing

  143. Ghost says:

    I’m kinda liking the way the team has kept scrapping and throwing punches long after it became a laugher. Bodes well.

  144. How about some station to station cheap hitting that ST likes to do. It’d be nice to put up another 6 runs to tie this puppy up.

  145. irishjim says:

    How many guys looked at strike 3 tonight? Unacceptable.

  146. Ghost says:

    Tabby Dabby Doo!

  147. Here we go Boys!! 12-8! I was at the Giles grand slam in the bottom of the 9th the first year PNC opened against the Stros, and they came back from just as many runs to win that game. How crushing would this be to tie this game up and eventually win it? I say do it Buccos!!!

  148. irishjim says:

    Nice effort by the bench players. Start them tomorrow.

  149. Ghost says:

    I think we’ve already won the gut-check battle. The Cards are hanging on for dear life and our boys –every last one of them on the bench did not throw in the towel.

  150. Get them back tomorrow, Bucs!

  151. Steelag70 says:

    Maybe…but a loss is still a loss and there is no such thing as momentum in baseball…and this team continues to Jeckyll and Hyde…

  152. Ghost says:

    That is true — this was a loss. But I do have to disagree about the momentum thing. I much prefer the way this ended than to the 12-1 score it had been. There’s no die in these guys. Cards gotta be realizing the same thing, right about now.

  153. Reading says:

    If you have the MLB Package, Giants’ guy going for perfect game in 9th.

  154. Reading says:

    3-2 count, 2 outs, 8 2/3 perfect, line drive drops about a foot in front of Pence. 1 hitter.

  155. I killed it. I joined in at 3-2 count and Chavez hit the sinking liner for a base hit. Sorry dude. At least he shut down AZ to keep them at bay and Miami put a hurt on Washington tonight to do the same.

  156. Arriba Wilver says:


  157. John Lease says:

    Where in the Hell is that panic button? I need to jam that sucker.

  158. Drew71 says:

    No prob. Here’s what you do.

    Take your first sentence, that well thought out and appropriate question, and copy it.

    Next week, Dejan’s chat. Paste and submit it 82 times.

    That should do it.

  159. Jandy says:


  160. Karen22 says:

    Only the garden…

  161. Karen22 says:

    IN the garden.


  162. Jandy says:

    G’mornin lady :)

  163. pattonbb says:

    No need for any panic buttons. 82 is a Locke tonight. Bet on it.

    Isn’t it about time for Bryan Morris to have a “sore forearm” or something?

  164. Tom P. says:

    With 22 goes to go, the Pirates magic number to clinch the second wild card is 13 (vs. Washington and Arizona), to host the wild card is 20 (vs. Reds) and to win the division is 22 (vs. Cardinals).

    I went to sleep with the score 6-1, so I missed the late inning offense. Two thoughts: I always dislike it when teams score late against the Pirates (but still lose) because I think it does give the other team some confidence. On the other hand, momentum only lasts as long as the next night’s starting pitcher. So, Jeff Locke is in a big spot tonight.

  165. Tom P. says:

    That would be “games” in the first line.

  166. Rob says:

    Might I add Paul Shannon to the Hall of Fame? Anybody growing up in the Burgh in the 70’s watched Adventure Time on Saturday morning. If you were a kid you wanted to be on his show.

  167. Arriba Wilver says:

    Just post it 81 times. Just because.

  168. Drew71 says:

    Then he won’t take the question.

  169. Thundercrack says:

    Wait. We scored 8 runs and lost?

  170. Bob Hasis says:

    It is so easy to lose any regard for R. Biertempfel’s writing when he tries to explain away that MAJOR GAFFE by Leyva, as his little nugget “Leyva leans heavily on percentages”, seems to want to do, in the Trib on 9/7.

    Such malarkey.

  171. Drew71 says:

    As a public service for anyone under age 50…

    Malarkey = BS

  172. Bob Hasis says:

    Thank you for clarifying. Accepted. I thought malarkey was universally understood.

  173. theplanisworking says:

    Isnt he still coaching? ;)

  174. Bob Hasis says:

    Yes at T Bay, I think. I met him at St. Vincent’s one year – he is a truly nice man

  175. Karen22 says:

    Hi, Jandy. I am very grumpy this morning. Perhaps fortunately,I won’t be able to watch our 3rd attempt at 82 tonight. We’ll be at the kids’ place in Oakmont and the TV will be occupied with yet another marathon viewing of wedding pics.

    So disappointed with how the last two games have gone. It’s time to step it up big time!

  176. Karen22 says:


  177. Karen22 says:

    YES! He’s given me a sore head!

  178. theplanisworking says:


  179. Kevin says:

    7-run 7th aside, whats happened to our starting pitching lately? I’m not going to be one of those people who will say we will lose out and not break the non-winning seasons streak and not make the playoffs… I’ll just mention it like I just did ;)

  180. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    That WAS terrible….

  181. cmat0829 says:

    I admit I watched the game on DVR last night on a delayed-basis… helped to be able to fast forward through some of the ugliness…but don’t see much discussion on the dueling HBPs last night.

    Morris, to me, was not throwing at Molina, he threw a slider and the ump behind the plate seemed to ‘see, no doubt in my mind’ a lot of things that weren’t there, most notably that he saw for sure that Martin’s bat hit the ball and not his wrist….. then Molina most certainly gloated his HR trot…. so that should’ve been the end of it in my mind.

    For Axford, the washed up butcher of a reliever, to throw and hit Sanchez in the shoulder was bush league in my opinion.

    To me, I’m hoping that is it because I don’t think this ‘unwritten rule’ crap really has any relevance in 2013 (maybe in 1939 it did).. THAT said, I wouldn’t shed a tear if Molina was beaned hard because he earned it.

    As to last night’s game, folks, this is what the Cards do. Yes, they have little power, but when they get on an opposite-field hitting roll, they seem to swarm like vultures over a kill….Hughes wasn’t sharp and Morris wasn’t either… but I’m not going to overreact. Bucs lost to a very good team on their home field after they dropped a big series to the Reds…. whether it was 1-0 or 12-0 or 12-8, it’s a loss.

    Winning ONE of these next two is a MUST though…. I don’t think it really matters which one… obviously would be GREAT to get tonight’s win, coupled with a Reds loss to immediately erase the bad taste of last night.

  182. cmat0829 says:

    since we’re just mentioning stuff that has no chance of happening…. I will marry Kate Upton, I will win the Powerball, peace will break out in the Middle East…and gas will return to $1 a gallon by Christmas. Thanks.

  183. pattonbb says:

    Happy Trails, JMac.

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