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On location: Bengals 20, Steelers 10

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

CINCINNATI — Looking ahead to kickoff …

Game: Steelers (0-1) vs. Cincinnati Bengals (0-1)

Time: 8:42 p.m.

Site: Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati

TV, radio: WTAE-TV (local), ESPN (national) WDVE-FM, ESPN Radio 970

Here is the official live summary.

Here is our Steelers page. Alan Robinson, Mark Kaboly, Ralph Paulk and I are on the scene. If you missed it, the Monday column cringes at the likely game plan.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.

Comments

  1. Bill maloni says:

    Steelers by 3.

    Oline will hold up (marginally); D will get them the win.

    DK: Not without a takeaway or two, Bill, right?

  2. Jason81 says:

    Takeaway? Is the defense still allowed to do that?

  3. Dom says:

    I said in the other thread, 24-10 Bengals.

    I really can’t see how we can be productive on the offense with a RB that doesn’t belong on any NFL roster, a backup TE, an underperforming OL, and a #2 WR who should be a #3. The defense will be on the field for too long and eventually give up points.

  4. Dom says:

    Cortez is out so any takeaways will have to come from Troy or via lost fumbles.

  5. defil21 says:

    It’s Jarvis Jones time!

  6. Rbilak says:

    1. Key matchup for tonight, Cincy tightends vs Steeler DB. Who will cover the two young Bengal Te’s? It is a big mismatch for Bengla’s advantage. Second Cincy’s D coordinator(who should be first head coach hired next year) will exploit Steeler new center. Steeler’s have problems figuring out blitz’s even when healthy, I imagine several sacks coming tonight on up the middle blitz. Harrison vs Gilbert or Adams, huge advantage Cincy.

    2. How long does Redman get? Till he runs backwards several times in a row or fumbles and blames everyone but himself?

    3. Does Ben get frustrated and throw picks? Hall and before him Joesph, always seem to have a big one vs Ben.

    4. Haley said he plays to player strengths. Question on offense is what strength? It is now fact Ben cannot do it himself. We have no tight end threat, weak running game, porous line, so Antonio Brown? That is your one playmaker now.

    5. Bengals 23 Steelers 10. Bengal TE score 2 TD’s. Ben sacked 6 times.

  7. Jandy says:

    *****ATTENTION*****
    Lurkers and newbies, we want to chat with you. If you post your hometown, Bizrow will add it to the list of Dejan’s Lunatics’ Asylum. Don’t be shy, we don’t bite :)

  8. Jim S. says:

    Just asking, but should we have serious doubts about the people putting this roster together?

    The center gets injured in Game 1, so they put a guy in there who they now think is better suited for TE. Then, that guy is moved back to TE for Game 2 and some guy seemingly comes in from out of the blue to be the starting C because the guy who used to be the back-up C was sent packing in the off-season and the C from last week is now a TE.

    They cut their most productive RB, and question a lot of things about his character, only to immediately pick him back up after Game 1. He may very well be getting the majority of carries by the 2nd half of this game.

    By the way, they knew their all world (and I mean that) TE was not going to be ready for the start of this season, so they signed Matt Spaeth in the off-season. Matt Spaeth would still be available to be signed today, if the Steelers had not already signed him.

    Does this sound normal to anyone? Is there not cause for a whole lot of alarm? Just asking, because I don’t remember it being this way until about 2 years ago.

    This entire organization has lost its way, if you ask me.

  9. defil21 says:

    I think we are starting to maybe realize how much more of an impact Cowher had on personnel. I think the Cowher/Colbert relationship is working out a lot better than the Colbert/Tomlin one.

    The cap situation is a mess and the fact that it’s locked in for what 3 straight years of the same in the new CBA sure isn’t helping the Steelers either. All those restructured contracts are going to be coming due for Woodley and Timmons, and Ben is definitely going to need a new contract in this coming off season.

  10. Rbilak says:

    Agreed 100%. Goes back to Arians Retirement/firing announcement. The Amos Jones, let’s let him sign elsewhere instead of firing him, the what should we do with Sanders. The New Steeler way is puzzling at best

  11. theplanisworking says:

    Ok, how do you explain the bite marks in my leg???

  12. defil21 says:

    The firing of Al Everest still puzzles me as well. I though Everest was a good special teams coach myself.

    Either was I was fine with Sanders. I think he’s a good WR, and well draft picks are hit and miss, but 2 3rd round picks last year would have been nice, seeing how we traded a pick to Cleveland this year for Thomas when we could have used the extra 3rd on him this year.

  13. Naje says:

    Without Cortez Allen, the defense will play passive coverage and get eaten alive. And in one critical situation where they come with a blitz, their hand will have been tipped and a Dalton to A.J. Green bomb for a TD will result.

  14. BostonsCommon says:

    No reason why Woodley and Jones can’t come up with a couple of sack fumbles. It’s not like they’re facing the ’92 Cowboys Oline.

  15. Jim S. says:

    It appears that it will get worse before it gets better.

  16. Kevin says:

    Going to re-post my post from another thread.. only because the “knowledge” comes from my favorite Steeler (in my lifetime).
    “”"
    According to Jerome Bettis (Espen’s newest analyst), the steelers O-line is the X-factor and they won’t figure it out this game. Jerome thinks Bengals will blitz early and often and Ben will come up short.

    Jerome Prediction:
    Bengals 28, Steelers 21.

    Which is strange, because unless two of those TD’s are defensive, not sure how this team is able to punch it in the redzone. Therefore, my prediction is such:

    Bengals 17, Steelers 13. Polamalu will intercept the ball early and take it for a TD. Steelers O-ffense will generate two more scoring opportunities for FG. Ben will be intercepted on the last play of the game to come up short.”"”

  17. tpbco says:

    Actually they only appear lost to those who don’t think through the dynamics of the salary cap and the effects of the francise QB contract.

    Under Cowher they were able to keep a good/great team together because they were paying bottom dollar at the QB position. Won a lot of games, made the playoffs but couldn’t win the AFC Champ until they drafted BBR.

    While they had BBR under his rookie contract, they were largely able to keep the team together and had a great run. Once BBR got his $100 million dollar contract, along with a few others, their window started to close. They lost more FAs, couldn’t replace them and larely had to rely on the crap shoot that is known as the draft.

    They had a great run, including Tomlin’s first years. Remember the team he “inheirited” was 8 – 8. But now it’s all coming home to roost. Just like Baltimore, with their dumps, ie Boldin for a 6th round pick. Dallas will now too. The other teams with franchise QB’s all have holes. Notice Brady, after a couple of injuries, had no TEs and 3 rookie WR’s….and was damn lucky to be in the AFC East, playing the Bills and Jets or he could be 0 – 2. GB had no running backs (until they drafted that “softy” Lacy”) and little depth on D. Colts with Manning, the same way. The two deepest teams, SF and Seattle both have franchise QB’s under rookie contracts.

    And when they DID get rid of old vets, like Ward, Aaron Smith, Hampton, Harrison the fan base went nuts. Can’t have it both ways and hindsight is always 20 -20.

    The only move that I regret was drafting Worlids instead of Sean Lee…other than that I think they are going in the right direction. The injuries over the last two years have been incredible and certainly delayed things. Anybody who thought this OLine with young players and others playing out of position was going to come together before October…probably weren’t thinking correctly (trying to be PC), especially with Pouncey down. Verasco was huge to be able to get…will it work…we’ll see. But it was absolutely the best they could do.

    Hoping for a win tonite, but if so, it probably will have to be an ugly win. I really don’t care if it is.

  18. Dom says:

    Yeah, Cortez is a big part to the D.

    In the next draft we’re really going to have to select some DBs. Three of our four are in their 30s and the other can’t stay healthy.

  19. Kevin says:

    I’m assuming Ike Taylor will be all over AJ Green tonight?

  20. Dom says:

    Correct.

  21. Karen22 says:

    Bedbugs?

  22. Jim S. says:

    I think it is the Steelers who didn’t think through a lot of things, tpb.

    Franchise QB and related salary cap issues aside, this team is slipping badly. They have almost no impact players now. If you want to dismiss the OLine situation as bad luck, go ahead. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  23. Karen22 says:

    I have noooo idea what the Steelers will do tonight. But I don’t have a particularly good feeling, either.

  24. JMB says:

    You said it!

  25. tpbco says:

    I guess we will, because you can not take the salary cap issues aside. It has absolutely dominated all the decisions that have been made for the last two years. Some were right and some were wrong, obviously.

    What has hurt as much as anything was the inability to sign any significant FAs. No more Farriors, Ryan Clarks, Jeff Hartings, Kevin Greenes and a few others that came in and filled holes AND covered up bust draft picks, which now just simply stand out more. I would have to see actual data to suggest that their draft outcomes have significantly changed.

    I do not dismiss the OLine as bad luck, other than that injuries and position changes have delayed the evaluation of this group. They have the potential and for now that’s all. If they do not reach it, then I will agree with you.

    Most experts that I’ve read believe that the only position tougher to learn than offensive tackle is QB. The Steelers certainly have made a few rookie and second year tackles look as bad as similarly experienced QB’s.

    Cheers

  26. SkinnyBarryBonds says:

    I just do not see how this offensive personnel puts up more than 10-13 points. With no oline to give Ben time, the short quick receivers don’t have enough time to consistently get separation. Couple that with no running game to keep defenses honest, and it makes for a lot of 3rd downs. A win will need to come from the defense, which mans a little Lebeau magic and a all-too-infrequent turnover or 4.

  27. Jason81 says:

    Drew’s dog?

  28. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    OK,

    Steelers on Monday night, Pirates racing for the division. I’ll have to bounce back and forth, hope I remember which thread I’m in.

    By the end of the night, I probalby won’t care!!

    Let’s Go Pittsburgh Sports!!!!

  29. lupesanchez says:

    Heart says you’re wong, Dom, but head suspects you’re spot on.

    Here we go.

  30. defil21 says:

    ++++

  31. defil21 says:

    Jim S and tpbco very well said and both valid points ++++

  32. Brandie says:

    A very frisky date!

  33. theplanisworking says:

    Hahahahahaha!!! +1

  34. theplanisworking says:

    Hahahahahahaha!!! +2

  35. theplanisworking says:

    Wrong area bitten! ;)

  36. theplanisworking says:

    ;)

  37. Drew71 says:

    I’m not a total ESPN basher. But the MNF pre-game show? I’d rather watch a Ray Lewis testimonial.

    Well. Maybe not.

  38. Brandie says:

    Oh the Drew-manity!

  39. defil21 says:

    COWHER POWER.

  40. defil21 says:

    WHO RIDE? WE RIDE!
    WHO RIDE? WE RIDE!
    WHO RIDE? WE RIDE!

    LETS RIDE ON 3! 1, 2, 3… LETS RIDE!!

  41. pattonbb says:

    If seeing LeBeau can move Harrison to tears, he should’ve taken his pay cut and continued to play for the man.

    Stay greedy #92.

  42. defil21 says:

    $ walks and you know what talks. Your right pattonbb, you would think that would have been the case.

  43. Brandie says:

    Ah…said with a Pittsburgh accent, ala Myron Cope!

    :-)

  44. Brandie says:

    You drivin? With that enthusiasm, find some room for me and strap me in! Let’s go!

  45. Brandie says:

    How long will Roethlisberger stay upright?

  46. Brandie says:

    Call 2 runs and go nowhere. Run number 3 for 5 yards…punt!

    Scintillating!

  47. theplanisworking says:

    That was a GREAT first offensive series.

    At this rate, we will score over in London.

  48. Jandy says:

    A joy ride?? Count me in!!!

  49. Brandie says:

    Decent field position. Let’s see how this can be screwed up!

  50. Jandy says:

    Apparently not too long.,..

  51. Jandy says:

    Field goal

  52. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Way to substitute there and cost them a possession.

  53. Lad 9 says:

    In the Shelby?

  54. theplanisworking says:

    The standard is the standard.

  55. Jandy says:

    TOPLESS!!!!!

  56. Brandie says:

    Top Down!

    Smooth Glide!

    That’s the way she likes to ride!

  57. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Gonna start calling them the S(tandard)&P(oor) Under .500

  58. Hell Unleashed says:

    Low football IQ permeates…

  59. Brandie says:

    And a fumble. The standard is the suck!

  60. pattonbb says:

    Do the Steelers have enough tight ends in case Tomlin starts going “bench crazy”?

    Horrible coaching tonight, folks.

  61. theplanisworking says:

    This is a G rated blog, Missy…………

  62. Jandy says:

    welcome to Hell…errr..welcome hell :)

  63. J Walter Weatherman says:

    I see their TE knows how to hold onto the ball. We could’ve had Eiffert. Just sayin

  64. Jandy says:

    yeah..so?
    :P

  65. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Is this any different than any reasonable Steelers fan thought it would be? Nothing to see here. Move along…

  66. theplanisworking says:

    Series of events, we fumble, only 2 minutes later, Bungles score.
    I dont think we can score enough to win.

    :(

  67. pattonbb says:

    But Jarvis Jones is a ballhawk…..

  68. theplanisworking says:

    Next man up.

  69. Kevin says:

    Bah I missed it. We were driving and were in position to score another field goal and instead Cindy scores?

  70. Kevin says:

    Lol Cindy stupid auto correct fail

  71. Milo Hamilton says:

    That, ladies & gentlemen is what bad teams do.

  72. theplanisworking says:

    I dont walk past 6 Lombardis every day, just to see you miss plays.

  73. theplanisworking says:

    If Cindy is a Steeler fan this year, she isnt scoring either. ;)

  74. defil21 says:

    Run a damn play. Let’s go!!

  75. Reading says:

    Same old, same old. Offense turns the ball over. Defense? A tough 3 and out? No. How about a virtually uncontested 87 yard TD drive. Ridiculous.

  76. BreakTheStreak says:

    Ben knew that was a fumble but the joke of Tomlin/Haley made him huddle up and that gave the Bungles a chance to see replay. Tomlin/Haley delay gave Cincy the ball. What a joke of a coach

  77. Lad 9 says:

    Mr Plan as I review the posts I missed I see that you were discussing get bitten by a date and scoring in London. I submit we moved off of a G rating a while ago. And I love it! :)

  78. Reading says:

    Bengals D gets a 3 and out after the big score.

  79. theplanisworking says:

    Lad, thats funny !!!!! :D

  80. theplanisworking says:

    Style points dont matter.

  81. Lad 9 says:

    Thank you very much. I’m here all week ( and I am this week for a change)

  82. J Walter Weatherman says:

    William Gay. 2 second head start for blocking FG. Still not even close.

  83. Steelag70 says:

    Really don’t see this team winning a game until after the bye week…0-4 to start at least…

  84. defil21 says:

    Why is Worldis on the field and where is the pass rush????

  85. Steelag70 says:

    I have NO problem taking Jarvis Jones over Eiffert…none at all. This was a deep draft at TE could have had one later in the draft.

  86. Steelag70 says:

    If I’m Ben, I play out my contract and get the hell outta here…

  87. defil21 says:

    We can take the HMMVEE it fits more and is equipped for ponds, trust me I know.

  88. defil21 says:

    Run a play and they cant challenge that. FIRE TOMLIN!

  89. lupesanchez says:

    63-34. I’m laughing just thinking about it.

  90. Steelag70 says:

    This is frigging embarrassing…

  91. defil21 says:

    YOI, and Double YOI.

  92. DJ says:

    Exciting offensive game plan. Crisp execution as well.

    Only thing keeping them in this is how bad the Bengals are playing on offense.

  93. florida steeler says:

    Ask Tomlin–he wanted him over Sean Lee.

  94. DJ says:

    Haley was checking his chart to decide which of the 82 plays to run there. He didn’t want to waste a down.

  95. theplanisworking says:

    +1

  96. J Walter Weatherman says:

    I wonder what excitement this next offensive possession will bring! On the edge of my seat.

  97. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Can’t stand Tirico

  98. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    That’s what she said

  99. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I like the WR screens….a lot. But I’m not pleases that this is the only pass that can be completed.

    Felix Jones is running the ball OK. Looks like he can bust one.

  100. Steelag70 says:

    HALEY MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  101. theplanisworking says:

    I love these types of games. Nothing better than a good hard struggle. We just have to play Steeler Football…………. I have faith in my men

  102. Steelag70 says:

    Whay is Cotchery running a reverse?>? Where the hell is Wheaton???

  103. Rob says:

    If I am going to run an end around with a wide receiver I don’t think I am going to use Cotchery. Just a thought.

  104. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Did Gruden just say he hasn’t seen anyone like Wallace since he left town?

    Ah, 2nd game without the overpriced cry baby.

    I like the receiving corp. Don’t like the play calling and the fade away jumpers Ben is putting up.

  105. Milo Hamilton says:

    1. Reverses don’t work anymore in the NFL. Defenses have too much speed.

    2. Let’s run one with the slow guy.

    Other than that it was a good idea.

  106. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Can we stop throwing to #89?

  107. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Nice to see you jump over here withe Milo.

    This game might be a pitchers dual too.

  108. DJ says:

    Will check back in after the next 12 guys in the huddle sequence.

  109. Rob says:

    2nd down. I say run up the middle

  110. theplanisworking says:

    Great news !!!

    The Steelers offense is making the Pirates offense look good!

    Todd Haley is the Nick Leyva of the team.

  111. Steelag70 says:

    See what happens Haley when you take the reins off of Ben??

  112. Hell Unleashed says:

    Ike Taylor is the greatest player ever..

    - John Gruden

  113. pattonbb says:

    No. He’s the most reliable wr on the team.

    What does that tell you?

  114. DJ says:

    Sanders between the hashes . . . where he belongs, not split outside.

    Can someone please tell Gruden that Ben’s last name is not Rothillsburger? He’s been in the league now, what, 10 years?

  115. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    TD Steelers!!!!

  116. Rob says:

    Wait, that was the correct play. You can’t call that! Congrats Moye!

  117. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Cam Heyward sighting? I’m shocked to say he’s had a pretty good game so far.

  118. defil21 says:

    Heyward and JJ need to stay on the field. DEFENSE!!

  119. DJ says:

    Need another Bengals choke-fest in the second half.

    Bengals have talented players in light of numerous high draft picks, and they may very well get to the playoffs over the next few years, but they aren’t going to get a sniff of the Super Bowl as long as Dalton is their QB.

  120. defil21 says:

    I know horrible pick.

  121. Hell Unleashed says:

    What I meant to say is that Ike is the best in the history of ever…

    - John Gruden

    That last pass was uncatchable, and what I mean is that it was right in Ike Taylor’s hands…

    - Mike Tirico

  122. defil21 says:

    He’s no blond bomber, but he is a red headed step child. LETS GO BOYS!

  123. Steelag70 says:

    It’s all Nuttings fault!!

  124. J Walter Weatherman says:

    I see. A phantom tripping call. Then no penalty when Bengal tries to rip helmet off BB. Sounds about right.

  125. Steelag70 says:

    Gilbert should be cut immediately! Another HUGE penalty on this team…

  126. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Worst. Call. Ever.

    Unreal penalty.

  127. defil21 says:

    The Zebras always trying to influence the game. Tripping my a$$.

  128. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Not even close to being a penalty.

  129. lupesanchez says:

    Phantom tripping call. Not even close.

  130. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Not even close in comparison.

  131. Keith says:

    Refs cost us there. By the way if that is Tom Brady that sack is a flag

  132. florida steeler says:

    Paulson is the worst excuse of a football player in the league.

  133. florida steeler says:

    The call was wrong–it must be INTENTIONAL.

  134. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Lol. I thought Pirates fans were ridiculous. Apparently I’m wrong.

  135. defil21 says:

    Every time Cincy moves the ball JJ is on the bench.

  136. theplanisworking says:

    Nice D………….. if you are looking at a matador score………..

  137. Steelag70 says:

    Horrible defense…

  138. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Fire Dick Lebeau!!

  139. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Totally disagree. See #84

  140. BreakTheStreak says:

    Missed int by Clark in 1st half, then missed tackle, and now takes bad angle on the td. And can he be any slower

  141. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Am I the only one who would rather be seeing Sylvester than Lewis at ILB? Can LeBeau change to a 4-3 immediately? Would better suit the personnel.

  142. pattonbb says:

    They continue to pick on Kion Wilson.

  143. DJ says:

    Worilds swallowed up by the offensive lineman on TD rush.

    Someone needs to tell Tomlin there is only one dog (Jarvis Jones) for one bone

  144. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Yeah, I meant Wilson, not Lewis. Not worth remembering his name.

  145. Steelag70 says:

    What the hell, we might as well go for it right here…

  146. J Walter Weatherman says:

    If the Steelers never ran one more WR screen, I would be very happy, and the offense would improve.

  147. florida steeler says:

    Trying to get two yards running behind DeCastro and Adams is hopeless. DeCastro getting mauled again tonight. Center is playing better than Pouncey.

  148. Steelag70 says:

    Still no sacks or TO’s for this defense…inexcusable…

  149. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    He couldn’t even catch the one right to him that was out of bounds.

    Great cover corner.

  150. lupesanchez says:

    I think Tomlin’s gonna steal that one in this week’s press conference. Well done.

  151. defil21 says:

    I’d rather go down with Wilson and Williams than Larry Foote.

  152. defil21 says:

    Still no OLine either. Adams is a turnstile.

  153. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Two big plays in this game:
    1. Paulson fumble
    2. Phantom tripping call

    Steelers would likely be leading, if not for those 2 plays.

  154. defil21 says:

    Starting to see why DD fell so far in the draft. The kid hasn’t lived up to the hype yet, but the jury is still out on DD.

  155. DJ says:

    From the Bengals standpoint, you would almost not have wanted a very mediocre QB (Dalton) and have preferred waiting for a quality QB to be drafted in the top 5.

    So instead of suffering through an extra year or two of sucking, they opted for Dalton and, in the process, squandered their chance to get really good.

  156. BreakTheStreak says:

    Big Ben overthrowing everybody tonight

  157. lupesanchez says:

    Maybe, but count how many times we’ve punted. Both these teams are pretty stinky.

  158. Steelag70 says:

    It’s like a slow death watching this team now…

  159. Reading says:

    Hey Defense. We need the ball back. Thanks.

  160. J Walter Weatherman says:

    No doubt. Bengals just stunk a little less tonight.

  161. Steelag70 says:

    Jesus Christ Woodley…

  162. DJ says:

    Too soft. Doesn’t bring “the nasty.”

    They should put him in the film room by his lonesome and make him watch non-stop “The Alan Faneca Years” tapes instead of practicing this week.

  163. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Apon further review. Not offsides.

    Joke.

  164. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Hey, let’s just bomb this season and get Clowney. Who’s with me!

  165. BreakTheStreak says:

    Best Steeler cheerleader is one Mike Tomlin. I just wish he’d coach and not cheerlead

  166. Jason81 says:

    Only if he switching to the offensive line.

  167. Steelag70 says:

    Once again..defense being worn down in part due to no offense…

  168. Hell Unleashed says:

    Keisel’s beard could be the only positive to look forward to for the rest of the season…

  169. DJ says:

    DK’s column was on point. Outside of LeBeau, the coaching staff appears they are in self-denial.

    Dejan must walk out of the room some days thinking “Is it me missing something here, or can they really be this stubborn . . . and wrong in their entire perspective and approach?”

  170. theplanisworking says:

    At the beginning of the year, I predicted 6-10.

    Who thinks I overshot??

    Good night all.
    Take your vitamins and say your prayers for this team.

  171. Steelag70 says:

    Markus Wheaton must be in the dog house…

  172. DJ says:

    . . . then again, maybe DK doesn’t even ask himself the question and proceeds directly to the second part.

  173. J Walter Weatherman says:

    He’s obviously too young to play. You can pick guys off the street and put them in the starting lineup in 2 days, as long as they’re not rookies.

  174. DJ says:

    Good point.

  175. BreakTheStreak says:

    Ben again. Man , has he been bad in the 4 th quarter the last couple years. That’s his 5 th pick in last 6 minutes of the game in last 2 years. Wow!!! I guess he’ll blame Haley again like he did after Dallas and Cinncy losses last year

  176. florida steeler says:

    Lets call it like it is: the offensive line has been bad since Russ Grimm left. Those are the facts.

  177. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Time for an honest moment. The new center may have played better than Pouncey has in a while.

  178. Milo Hamilton says:

    Steve McClendon’s drivers license photo should have him on his back.

  179. florida steeler says:

    You are correct.

  180. BreakTheStreak says:

    The new center looks better than Pouncey. ProFootball Focus rated Velasco 11th best center and Pouncey 20th

  181. lupesanchez says:

    There’s obviously some disconnect between Haley and Ben… Granted, the OL is terrible.

  182. Steelag70 says:

    Cotchery’s fault….

  183. Milo Hamilton says:

    The worst part of these first 2 performances is the way they’ve been physically manhandled.

  184. J Walter Weatherman says:

    They need to look hard at moving Pouncey to guard.

  185. Steelag70 says:

    I’ll take Pouncey any day…

  186. J Walter Weatherman says:

    Well, who exactly is intimidating on this defense? I’m setting game 6 as the O/U for first TO forced by this D.

  187. BreakTheStreak says:

    But DK just wants them to pass more and Ben isn’t playing well enough to put it on his shoulders. He throws to many picks in big situations and has been downright horrible in the 4th quarter the last 2 years

  188. BreakTheStreak says:

    Agree

  189. florida steeler says:

    Then you have not been watching for the last two years. Pouncey is one of the most over rated players in the NFL.

  190. Milo Hamilton says:

    Kick the field goal please.

  191. Steelag70 says:

    I watch every game….you just bitch about every player on the Buccos and the Steelers…

  192. Hell Unleashed says:

    Tomlin better hit the Thesaurus hard after this loss. Hope he brings it in the presser, since he does not do jack during the game.

  193. DJ says:

    I would like to see them switch it up right out of the gate. They are too ridiculously predictable.

    How about coming out to establish the pass first, then mixing in the run from there? Try something different . . . coach them up . . . adjust . . . recalibrate.

  194. Milo Hamilton says:

    I continue to be amazed how teams all over the league mangle the ends of games when they’re down 10.

  195. florida steeler says:

    At least I know what I am talking about.

  196. Steelag70 says:

    so you say…

  197. Steelag70 says:

    I doubt you do….

  198. DJ says:

    I think the truth is somewhere in between. Pouncey has played hurt for the last two years. He was a beast before then.

    It would have been nice to see what he would have done this year if he stayed healthy for the full year. Unfortunately, not to be.

  199. pattonbb says:

    Next year’s draft is going to be ridiculously rich.

    Assuming the league outlaws cut blocks, the Steelers fire Haley, Bell turns out to be a real #1 rb, Jarvis Jones can stay on the field, Heath comes back healthy, Pouncy comes back healthy, and Ben doesn’t get killed…..this could be a really good team in another year or two.

    It’s a cycle. Fortunately for us, the Steelers have been on top of that cycle for a while. Now it’s time to re-load.

  200. florida steeler says:

    Your knowledge of the game was displayed above when you blamed the defense for no turn overs. If you knew anything about football, you would not blame the defense tonight
    Pouncey is over rated and I stand by that statement.

  201. Rbilak says:

    - “My coaching substitution-awareness today was below the line”. “I recognize the importance of my QB trying to run a play to ensure a fumble was not overturned”. “Bringing Vince Williams in was my early trick or treat Oct football decision, clearly he and I were tricked and it was momentum shiftingSplash play”. MT

    - Marcus Gilbert is hIgh school capable pass blocker.

    -Manny Sanders is a gifted #5 WR, I am sure we could get a third round pick for him

    -Zero turnovers.

    -Only 2 games, keep thinking that

    -Gilbert !Decastro another sack, loved first sequence of plays, Haley must have been up all night thinking of those plays.

  202. Steelag70 says:

    I know the game very well sir…and why was it wrong to blame the defense for not forcing any turnovers or getting any sacks?? That is their job…

  203. BreakTheStreak says:

    House cleaning won’t come this year bit I could see Lebeau retiring and Haley getting fired. Tomlin and Colbert will get at least another year or 2 so we may have this year and next to really stink.

  204. Steelag70 says:

    YOU are overrated and I stand by THAT statement.

  205. DJ says:

    We will have many needs by year-end.

    Need to start determining who’s a keeper and who’s not and giving expanded playing time to the rookies as well, to see who will be our future building blocks.

    It would be nice if we could say that either Hood or Heyward will be one of those. Thought Heyward played decently tonight.

  206. Steelag70 says:

    McClendon seemed to be a turnstile at NT…

  207. florida steeler says:

    Criticize Woodley as you did above?? He had a very good game. Only goes to prove your lack of knowledge and I stand by that.

  208. WVStarship says:

    A poster in another forum I participate in predicted 4-12.

    Now, I’m going to ask you the same question I asked him: Who do you expect them to beat? The Browns? Maybe, but definitely only once. The only team that may be worse is Jacksonville, and we don’t play them.

  209. DJ says:

    Some decent pressure on a few occasions as well.

    Give him this year and let’s see what we have. Really no other option at this point anyway.

  210. DJ says:

    Does anyone doubt that Heath rightfully earned team MVP last year? Ben doesn’t.

    They miss him immensely in the middle of the field on offense . . . to say nothing as to his blocking.

  211. Steelag70 says:

    I say let Al Woods play there…

  212. DJ says:

    Maybe. He certain came on late in preseason.

  213. Steelag70 says:

    I criticized him for a dumb penalty on a third down…gave the Bengals a first…not his entire game…just goes to show how little you pay attention. You do this crap on the Bucco game blog as well…

  214. florida steeler says:

    Please, spare me your knowledge. You criticize McClendon and that blame should have been at the feet of the revolving middle linebackers who had very poor games. But, then, you profess to know football and now baseball also.

  215. lupesanchez says:

    Huge loss. Huge.

  216. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    It is what it is with the Steelers.
    They are not a good team and really haven’t been in awhile now.
    It’s tough….But one has to just bite the bullet and get the highest possible pick next year.

  217. DJ says:

    Would like to see Tomlin throw caution to the wind a bit more, taking some chances that lay a foundation for the future. He seems to take the conservative approach now, trying to preserve his win-loss record and his “First Coach to X Wins in Y Years” reputation.

    Sometimes “career wins” landmarks stifle coaches from evolving. It’s not a concept lost on Tomlin either. Jamie Dixon and Dan Bylsma have suffered to a degree from early successes as well. The mark of a great coach is not one who is stubborn but one who adapts and still succeeds.

  218. Chuck H says:

    Same old weak offensive line-Ben not as good as he once was-he was overthrowing his
    receivers all night long, but, of course, if he had as much time to throw as the apposing
    qb, he would do better. On almost every pass play, the defense was on Ben almost
    before the ball got to him. Every season we have the chance to select real good
    offensive linemen, but every season the offensive line sucks. The Steelers are headed
    for a long season if they don’t get their running game going soon. Got to get Heath
    Miller back in the mix soon, too. GO, Steelers!!!

 
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