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Morning Java: Don’t believe it? Not yet?

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> The Monday column from PNC Park puts the word it in italics a whole bunch of times.

And after you read it to see what it is all about, here’s some of what Pedro Alvarez, Russell Martin and Marlon Byrd had to say afterward …

The game story, by beat man Rob Biertempfel.

Alvarez is lighting it up in the spotlight, by Travis Sawchik.

Jason Grilli is looking like himself again, by Karen Price.

The Cardinals won’t blame their pen, by Kevin Gorman.

Charlie Morton plans to have a sinking feeling today, by Bob Cohn.

The trouble with changeups in Game 4, by Sawchik.

Kevin McClatchy is welcomed back, by Biertempfel.

Photo gallery by Chris Horner and staff, including this beauty by Philip G. Pavely of the rotunda …


Here’s our full Pirates coverage.

Here’s Cardinals news from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Here are official game highlights from

>> The Penguins’ new system is explored by Josh Yohe.

Here’s our full Penguins coverage.

Here are official game highlights from

>> Troy Polamalu seeks the reset button, by Mark Kaboly.

Here’s our full Steelers coverage.

Here are official game highlights from

>> Penn State licks its wounds, by Chris Adamski.

>> We had mega-fun on last night’s Subway Final Word on WPXI-TV.

>> I’ll appear on the WDVE Morning Show at 8:45 a.m., then check in with TribLIVE Radio at 11:30 a.m., then make it back here for Game 4.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. tomp says:

    Morton doesn’t need to be perfect on Monday, but he needs to get the team through 6 frames without giving up more than 3 or 4 runs.

    I think the Pirates are due for a “BIG” offensive game tomorow, and i hope Neil Walker is going to participate in it.

    I don’t want to get overconfident, because after all, they are the Cardinals.
    But i don’t want the team to blow the chance to end this series, once and for all!!.

    It’s going to be a wild one!!.
    I am gonna call it, game 4, Pirates 8 Cardinals 4!!!

  2. bizrow says:

    The best is yet to come

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  4. Mike says:

    Good work DK. I like the mutual support from the Pens to the Bucs and back, don’t necessarily see that in other cities! Enjoying the ride.

  5. theplanisworking says:

    Biz, here are 3 I saw from yesterday…………..

    Meglasdad………… Clarksburg, West Virginia

    Paul Maggio…………..Wesley Chapel, Florida

    Kensnits………………………Grayson, Georgia

    Go New Bucs fans !!!!!!!!!!

  6. theplanisworking says:

    Every time we leave this team for dead……………. WRONG!!!

    Up 2-0, gone.
    Up 3-2, gone.
    Cutch gets thrown out on an awful play, looks like we are toast…… WRONG!

    Now today, Charlie has a chance to close it out.

    Many say the Cards arent nervous about todays game, I disagree.
    St Louis tied for the best record in baseball.
    Home field advantage. Not a good road team.
    Now down 2-1 to a hungry Pirate team, at PNC Park.
    LOTS of pressure on the Cards. LOTS.

    Ned to close it out today!

  7. George Labecki says:

    The resident sixteen-year-old in the eighth inning, just after Cutch went brain dead and ran into an out: “Honestly, I feel like I could throw up right now.” Me: “That’s playoff baseball Nick; not something you’ve ever experienced in your lifetime.”

    How outrageously cool is that? After decades of moms and dads sitting with their kids, pulling for the hopeless, running with teams who could barely walk, chewing on our programs because we couldn’t or just wouldn’t taste that brand of baseball, not when we grew up knowing the delicious nature of the game when it’s played the right way; here we are, with the wonderful suffering of playoff baseball. And isn’t it grand.

    I was at a funeral this weekend, and the priest stated that we weren’t there to “walk through the valley but to rejoice and celebrate life.” And, in a way, I guess that’s where we are: that twenty-year valley, all those shadows, they’re behind us. We celebrate life, a rebirth of baseball the way we knew it growing up.

    And if you feel like you could honestly throw up, cherish that feeling. We all feel that way, and it’s all good.

  8. Mosca says:

    Mountain Top PA.

  9. casinoryan says:

    George – excellent post

    Biz- Ocean Springs, MS

  10. Stuart says:

    DK, the link goes to last Thursday’s column.


    DK: Fixed, Stuart. Thank you so much. I do that ALL the time.

  11. DJ says:

    Cards taking solace in their history against Charlie Morton by reciting the following averages: Jay .500; Beltran .400; Molina .420; Holliday .320.

    All of which can only mean one thing: Big Bucs victory given we have “it” on our side.

  12. JW says:

    I had the same problem as Stuart, but did eventually find the column.

    Billy Beane is right. A lot of what we see in playoffs is luck.

    If the Penguins and Bruins play their series 1,000 times, would there be another where the Pens only score two goals? Or where a healthy Crosby and Malkin combine for zero points? The Bruins would win some, and the Penguins would, I think, win more, but we wouldn’t see another series like the one that took place.

    Obviously, what happened happened, just like Super Bowl XLII. And whatever’s going to happen in the remainder of this baseball postseason is going to happen. Some of it will be genuinely explicable, but some occurrences will just be random, and we’ll still try to explain them.

  13. JRay3 says:

    Well still haven’t come down from that game and the scene I witnessed at PNC. My throat burns from the chanting, cheering and screaming.

    To add a little to DK’s column speaking of “it”, on my flight to Pittsburgh a guy on the plane behind me saw my Pirates shirt and asked if I was headed to the game. I asked him if he was going as he was not dressed in any Pirate gear, he responded he was. When I asked how he got his seats he tells me his Dad works for the team. Interested I asked what does he do? He tells me he is the third base coach, and quickly I say your Nick Leyva’s son.

    We start talking some more and he proceeds to tell me a little about his Dad Nick, him being a lifer in the game, this being his seventh postseason in his career, how he knows his time is winding down, and than the son tells me when he spoke to his Dad by phone earlier in the week that Nick told him there is something special happening here. The son goes on to tell me what his Dad sees is something unlike anything he has observed or witnessed in his career that this team is different.

    Talking to him gave me goosebumps. I feel there are people in that clubhouse that just know something special, that it factor is there. And after yesterday’s game who am I to doubt.

    I Believe! Go Bucs!

  14. irishjim says:

    I’m going to need a DK quota of Starbucks to get me through the next 24 hours. Working until 9am, driving from State College to the Burgh for some tailgating, catching the game in section 108, and some Monday night Raw in Consol.

  15. Russ Hersch says:

    Ginot Shomron, Israel

  16. Brandie says:

    Greetings from Philipsburg.

  17. irishjim says:

    Same to you Brandie. Hope you and the family are doing ok.

  18. Brandie says:

    As okay as can be. Husband is going to the university a half hour early to work. I have a full day ahead of me as well. You sir have safe travels!

  19. Brandie says:


    Great column today. Let’s hope the Pirates can ride whatever “It” is all the way to the greatest redemption story in sports history!

  20. Brandie says:

    Bloggers, Bloggettes,

    1 more win to will the Pirates back to the Pinnacle of Prominence. I can remember joking some months back that, as penance for past misdeeds, I would say as many “Hail Jandys” as it took to will the Pirates to prominence. Guess my work and your work as fans isn’t quite done, so let me start the ball rolling with a mighty…

    HAIL JANDY X INFINITY AND BEYOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I want to be there to see Hippo post…

    RAISE THE JOLLY ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Good Morning Bucco Boosters! Do all that you can to raise your ball club and each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hugs n’ At!

    BUC’N A!!!!!!!!

  21. tomp says:

    Former resident of Wilkes Barre.
    Smartened up in 2000, and moved to St Petersburg

  22. OldSoldier21 says:

    I will be at work when the game starts. I hope to be arriving home, and cracking open an ice cold adult beverage to celebrate the Buccos advancing to the NLCS around 6 PM. I will be lurking during the game and with you in spirit. BELIEVE.

  23. JoeyBats says:

    Pedro… have more guts and moxy in playoff baseball than some of your predecessors EVER had — keep up the good work…! ;-)
    One more….to get us one step closer….

  24. Kevin says:

    A lot of people fault Cutch for running out for the first out in the 8th. But it’s the system. They are all for aggressive base running… Going at the crack of the bat. Bucs have done it all year. Most obviously on the plays from 3rd to home.

  25. theplanisworking says:

    Um, should say new posters.

    Thats what I get for posting half asleep………

  26. theplanisworking says:

    Shalom !

  27. Drew71 says:

    My “supply store” is holding for me six 750 ML bottles of Victory Brewing Company’s Red Thunder Baltic Porter.

    I do what I have to do for the team.

    That’ll get us thru this series, past the Dodgers and one win of the Series.

    They were running low. I’ll find three more bottles somewhere else.

  28. Thundercrack says:

    Question about strategy:
    Why didn’t Matheny pinch run for Matt Adams after he singled in the 9th?

    -did he not have another player on the bench able to play first?
    -did he feel that without a home run it would take at least 2 more hits to tie the game up?

    Not sure why he didn’t pinch run for the very slow runner.

  29. theplanisworking says:

    I think Jandy has comandeered my computer!

    Ned== need!

  30. JAL says:

    JAL’s Do It Again Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 Pittsburgh Pirates Stats

    BLOGS and such

    4—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: How the Pirates Could Advance to the NLCS Tomorrow

    Why Russell Martin is the Pirates’ Early Postseason MVP

    Pirates Take 2-1 Lead Over Cardinals: Five Key Moments From Tonight’s Win

    5 Bucs Dugout

    Resiliency! Guts! Clutch! All things unquantifiable lead Bucs to 5-3 win

    6 Rumbunter

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Regular Season Outfielder Grades


    NLDS Game 3: Pirates 5 Cardinals 3

    8 The Green Weenie

    Last Rally Belongs To Bucs In 5-3 Win

    9 Raise the Jolly Roger

    Pirates 5 Cardinals 3

    10 City of Champions

    2013 MLB Playoffs: Pirates out-clutch Cardinals, take one-game lead in NLDS

  31. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 New York Daily News

    Pittsburgh Pirates get big lift from Marlon Byrd, take 2-1 lead on Cardinals in NLDS

    12 Rant Sports

    5 Biggest Moves That Got Pittsburgh Pirates Into Playoffs For First Time Since 1992

    13 IS Sports

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Can Charlie Morton beat the Cardinals?

    14 New York Times

    Pirates, Willing to Be Stupid, Made Smart Midseason Moves

    15 USA Today

    Pirates rally, push Cards to the edge

    16 CBS Sports

    Pirates vs Cards Game Preview

    It’s loud, it’s wild and the Pirates now lead the Cardinals in this NLDS

    17 St Louis Post Dispatch

    Cards are pushed to brink

    Bernie: Now it’s time for the Birds to fight back

    18 PBC Site

    Bucs pick up ‘pen, strike late to take 2-1 NLDS lead

    Notebook: To Hurdle, mentality key to Pirates’ chemistry

    Pirates’ recent shift in strategy paying off big

    19 ESPN

    Pirates feeling the October passion

    Pedro power: Alvarez delivers for Bucs


    20 Fangraphs

    WPS recap: NLDS, 10/6/2013

  32. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Emmanuel Sanders seeing targets decrease but not solely because of Heath Miller’s return

    Jarvis Jones isn’t happy with his play so far

    22 Steelers Gab

    The Next Four Weeks – Can The Steelers Turn Around 2013?


    23 London Evening Standard

    Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger pleased with Jack Wilshere’s show of character

    24 World Soccer Daily

    10 stories you need to read, 4th October, 2013


    25 Pensburgh

    Game 2 Recap: Pens score early, ride out easy win against Buffalo

  33. JAL says:

    Song Do It Again Beach Boys

  34. Russ Hersch says:

    And shalom back at ye,

    First thing I do in the morning (We’re seven hours ahead) as I leave the house is to check my iPhone to see how the Bucs did.

    Best regards to everyone in the Byrd cage. Wish I could be there for a game or two. Awesome field – I was there with my son a few years ago. Even though we lost, Burgh’ers are the best. Had a great time.

    Go Bucs!

  35. Drew71 says:

    PNC was so loud. Those walls weren’t just talking; they were screaming.

    So i expected a different column.

  36. DJ says:

    If we win today, Cards will be regretting their big push for the best record in the National League.

  37. Jandy says:

    Welcome, Mosca…jump in and chat with us.
    Biz will see you’re added to the Lunatics’ list :)

  38. Jandy says:

    Welcome, Russ! Hope you find the time to chat with us now and then :)

  39. Jandy says:


  40. Jandy says:

    Sure…sure…Jandy typos are contagious ;)

  41. NMR says:

    Loved the column. Loved the game. Loved the season.

    If the Pirates were playing any other team in the leage, I’d be all in on “it”.

    But I still can’t shake the feeling that these Cardinals were the originators of “it”. They’ve done “it” over and over and over again. “It” is all they know.

    If the Pirates beat them at their own game, this season will truly be one for the books.

  42. Drew71 says:

    I just put an appointment on my work calendar today.

    “3:00 Block”

    It’s a 4 hour appointment.

  43. Arriba Wilver says:

    Gonna watch with your boss?

  44. Jandy says:

    George, Excellent!

  45. Jandy says:

    Welcome, casinoryan, to the Lunatics’ Asylum :)

  46. Wild Bill says:

    This morning I find myself continuing to think about Dejan’s Sunday column on Bob Nutting. In the 1960s, when I was a young kid, my dad would laugh at me when I listened to Steeler games, saying, “That team will never win a thing as long as the Rooneys own them.” I later on had the experience of seeing amazement on his face.

    I’ve come very close to saying something similar to my dad regarding the Nutting ownership of the Pirates. Until recently, I was not close to being convinced that this family, this owner, cared about much besides making money. Milk the asset, then maybe make a good profit selling it when a taxation window would make it especially profitable. This is what I felt was the Plan.

    We don’t yet have a title to celebrate, but I may well have been wrong about Bob Nutting, as my dad was wrong about Dan Rooney, in particular. I will be even more convinced if I see actions following this season that show a management determination to make the success sustainable year after year. I see some of that now, and I want to see it continue.

    For the moment, I say “thank you” to Bob Nutting, who makes me hope I’ve been wrong about him. And thanks to Dejan, whose column and other writing gives us insight into what has really been going on with the Pirates.

    Send the Cards to an early vacation, Bucs! Get ‘em today!

  47. Jandy says:

    JRayTre, how wonderful that you had that unlikely conversation!
    Game starts at 3 today, and I’ll be at work, but I’ll follow online…then hurry home to catch what I can there.
    So excited!!!!

  48. Kensnits says:

    Agreed; great story.

    Survived giving up 2 leads (with one due to an awful ‘safe’ call on the Jay stolen base to third) and Cutch’s base running blunder without any sign of panic.

    Need to close it out today!

  49. Drew71 says:

    Nope. But gonna tell him where I am.

  50. Jandy says:

    irish, take some 5 hour enegy drinks with you, they will help (but man, they taste nasty!)
    Good luck, safe travels to you!

  51. Is there ANYBODY who wants to complain TODAY about Hurdle’s lefty/righty/lefty/righty/lefty/righty batting line-up?

    Seems to me yesterday’s game complemented the structure perfectly!!! It put guys in spots to get on base, move guys up, and drive in runs. PERFECTLY!

  52. Jandy says:

    G’mornin Brandecita! Your post made me laugh this Monday morning.
    Thinking of you, and sending prayers and good vibes your say :)

  53. Jandy says:


  54. Thanks for this song today, JAL.

  55. radio wave says:

    Amazed at yesterday’s game. Double steal by Cards was brilliant. LaRussa would have done that. Hurdle’s switch at shortstop, and pinch hitting to avoid the pitcher leading off inning was wonderful. All season posters have blamed Hurdle for decisions that lost games. Give him credit for this one, he made the right calls yesterday. And for A to be a hot bat after a miserable second haf. And a clutch base hit instead of a homer. That’s the hitter he should be. I kept saying all season you wouldn’t give Morton the ball in a critical game. Well, now it is that time. I have a hunch he is going to come through. He has done well down the stretch.

  56. Jandy says:

    Keep looking!

  57. Jandy says:

    That’s Moxie!

  58. Kevin says:

    todays the day hopefully Walker breaks out of his post-season slump…

  59. Jandy says:

    that’s WAY.
    Friggin Jandy typo disease lol

  60. Wild Bill says:

    He’s very due, Kev.

  61. Kevin says:

    radio, I don’t really agree with you on this. When you make a move like that and it ends up not hurting you (the pirates won afterall), that doesn’t really make it a good move. In my opinion, it was neither a net positive or negative move because no errors were made, Mercer went 0-for-1 so there was no ADD there.

    Also, the double steal may have been brilliant… but only because Kozma was out but called safe. He tagged him before his foot touched the bag. Which also makes me ask another question… if pedro leaves the tag there, Kozma is out too since he slide past the bag. People don’t just leave the tag though… they touch once then pull it away to show the ref that they made the tag.

  62. gregenstein says:

    Barry Bonds had 7 total hits in ’90 and ’91 playoffs combined. 13 games.

    Andrew McCutchen has 7 playoff hits. 4 games.

  63. Jandy says:

    Bonds is a fake. Steroids.

    Cutch is the real deal.

  64. Kevin says:

    yes that is great news. I thought it was also fantastic that Alvarez, Byrd, and Martin account for 11 of the 13 runs batted in by the pirates this series.

  65. Drew71 says:

    Wearing a black tie and, yes, a gold jacket.

    Not easy to find a gold jacket.

    Or to wear one.

    Except now.

  66. Kevin says:

    who’s complaining? I’m just glad Morneau continues to hit and factor in the wins… (scored another run last night)

  67. Arriba Wilver says:

    Bonds wasn’t a steroid fake while he was with the Pirates. He was a jerk who couldn’t hit in the postseason, but not a steroid fake. ;-)

  68. Kevin says:

    I do agree with you on Morton. I remember that time very clearly. I trust Morton alot more at this point than AJ. And that just woulda sounded crazy 3 months ago.

  69. Kevin says:

    even with Alvarez, Byrd, and Martin bailing us out.. I still believe we’ll need Walker to get hot at some point soon if we’re going to get past the dodgers.

  70. likeabugonarug says:

    It wasn’t that awful of a call when you look at it at real speed vs. magnified 100X and super slo mo. Hopefully next time Pedro keeps his glove there, but that’s also a reaction of get your glove out of there so the ump doesn’t think you missed the tag.

    Was also a very interesting ump behind the plate. Didn’t know the plate had expanded 2 or 3 inches on the outside half. But, he was consistent about it. As well as consistently not calling the low strike that did catch the plate. Though I noticed he seemed to be getting more “squeezing” as the pens came into play.


  71. Arriba Wilver says:

    Anybody ever figure out if the home plate ump was on a different planet yesterday, or if the pitch tracker TBS used was off? Or both?

  72. steelkings says:

    I dont. AJ has a 1.3 ERA against the Cards at PNC

  73. likeabugonarug says:

    And as they brought up on MLBTV, he was kinda in no-man’s land. It was a little behind him so he took off. Only problem was the SS was right there. And with their positioning, it’s also possible that due to split second indecision even if he’d tried to get back to 2nd the SS may have been able to tag him.

    As they say….live by the sword, die by the sword.


  74. Miss Inga Molar (Z) says:

    Did TBS dial back the crowd noise mic yesterday? PNC didn’t seem as loud on TV.

    Not certain why, but does anyone else have troubles watching/listening to games
    that feature the tomahawk chant? (Braves, Seminoles)

    I MIGHT endure it if the chant were at PNC, with the Braves getting closed-out…
    and only if it was sung as a laugh track by the crowd:

    haaaaa, haa, ha, ha, haaaaa, ha, ha, haaaaa, haaa, ha, ha, haaaaa

    but, trying not get ahead of myself here.


  75. likeabugonarug says:

    I was wondering the same thing, Arriba. While the angle was off, I think I usually do a “good” job calling balls and strikes by TV. Many of the ones he called strikes which the pitch tracker had as balls I also thought were strikes.


  76. Damon says:

    …and 5 walks, .667 OBP….

  77. Jandy says:

    I’m sure Don Cherry has a spare ;)

    P.S. bet you look Sharp!!

  78. Jandy says:

    We’ll need all guns blazing to keep up with the Dodgers.

  79. Miss Inga Molar says:

    Yes, same thoughts here as well.

    You could sense the players taming their dis-belief at the plate.

    Anyone know who/what was said from the Pirates dugout during Russ’s first at bat?
    (that got the Ump irked)

  80. Jandy says:

    Still, can’t stand him. never could. his superior attitude always rubbed me the wrong way.

  81. Wild Bill says:

    I think both, AW. But I think the ump was off by more; the players kept reacting to the calls.

  82. Jandy says:

    Just another friggin jerk lol

  83. Jandy says:

    brain fart?

  84. Drew71 says:

    The Big Payola.

    3B too.

  85. Jandy says:

    pens? ;)

  86. Jandy says:

    yup, another jerk

  87. Wild Bill says:

    Famously rubbed Leyland the wrong way once, Lol.

  88. Jandy says:

    haha just once?

  89. Kevin says:

    that doesn’t sound right… is that neglecting the 7 run 3rd inning in game 1?

  90. Jandy says:

    Game 1 was in St. Louis. steelkings said in PNC Park.

  91. Kevin says:

    oh duh.. read… he said PNC. obviously game 1 was in St. Louis. disregard previous comment.

  92. Sarah says:

    Bonds collapsed every year in the playoffs.

    We called him Mr. August.

  93. Wild Bill says:

    Don’t want to know how many other times – I already think too little of him to care.

  94. Sarah says:

    Geez Lunatics.
    Freezing and raining here in Banksville this AM.

    Hope we get some ball in today!!!!!!

  95. Arriba Wilver says:

    He was always a jerk. ;-)

  96. Tom P. says:

    Three observations that just came to mind. Don’t know the relevance of them, but here goes.

    1. The Cardinals have lost 5 of their last 6 playoff games. They blew a 3-1 lead to the Giants last year and have lost two of three to the Pirates this year.

    2. Since getting swept in St. Louis one month ago, the Pirates are 16-8. 3-0 at Texas, 3-1 vs. Cubs, 1-3 vs. Padres, 1-2 vs. Reds, 2-1 at Cubs, 3-0 at Reds, 1-0 vs. Reds (wild card), 2-1 vs. Cardinals (Division Series).

    3. There has been some consternation about the start times of the games in this series. I get it, but the flip side is that, for years, people have been complaining that baseball playoff games end too late for kids in the Eastern Time Zone. In this series, all of the games will end by 8:00 so kids who are enjoying their first playoffs in truly a generation can see the end of the games live.

    Let’s go Bucs!

  97. Jandy says:

    Sarah we had 70 degrees at 6am. Now it’s about 64…to hold about there rest of day…drop to 40’s tonight. To stop raining in Pittsburgh by noon.
    we shall see!

  98. Kevin says:

    The way I remember it, he took off on contact and looked back at the shortstop only a second after he started running… I agree, if he had stopped at that point, he would have been out anyway.

    The thing is.. there were no outs. He did not have to go on contact but went anyway because that is the pirates MO. They are aggressive baserunners (to a fault). Marte’s got caught many times and of course all of the plays at the plate this season that made people shake their heads.

    Another play I found interesting was the squeeze play that Hurdle tried with Martin on the 1st pitch. Martin was lucky to get his bat on the ball. Had Martin put in play, Byrd woulda been safe. If he had missed the ball completely, obviously Byrd woulda been out.

  99. Jandy says:

    We agree, AW :D

  100. Kevin says:

    Very interesting Tom P, good observations. Especially like your take on #3, didn’t consider that before. As someone who was very disappointed that the Boston-Pittsburgh (NHL) series games all started at 8pm or later, I can definitely see the advantage.

  101. Arriba Wilver says:

    I wasn’t overly impressed with Beltran beating Babe Ruth for post-season home runs, assuming the expanded opportunity for “post-season” gave him lots more PA’s. But he did it in essentially the same number of PA’s. THAT’S impressive.

  102. Arriba Wilver says:


  103. Kevin says:

    Agree. He hits a homerun once out of every ~8.5 plate attempts. That is pretty fantastic.

  104. Wild Bill says:

    For that reason, we need to work around him today. If he beats us now, that’s on us.

  105. JohninOshkosh says:

    In the 130+ years the Pirates have been playing baseball in Pittsburgh, they have never lost a playoff game at PNC Park. :)

  106. NMR says:

    Guy is damn impressive.

    Charlie against Carpenter, Beltran, Adams, and Jay. Yikes.

  107. Arriba Wilver says:

    Don’t know, I always assume it’s Jay Bell. ;-)

  108. Karen22 says:

    SHALOM x 98!!

    LOVE Israel! I was fortunate to pilgrimage there in 2008…journey of a lifetime!


  109. JoeyBats says:

    ….errr, to be more specific:
    Barry Bonds…(3 post season years for the Pirates) 68 AB’s…1 HR…3 RBI
    Bobby Bonilla…(2 post season years for the Pirates) 44 AB’s …0…. 2 RBI
    PEDRO……..13 AB….2 HR….5 RBI

  110. Karen22 says:



  111. Kevin says:

    beautifully sunny and splendid here (Dover, PA)… was a balmy 73 degrees at 4am. Storm is coming though :)

  112. Arriba Wilver says:

    Somebody in the chat last week questioned Charlie’s mental makeup for an important game like this, and I liked DK’s response about Charlie after the 9-1 loss:

    “Dejan Kovacevic: Oh, man, no. I think we’ve all seen enough of Morton to know he functions on some other plane of existence. Totally silent clubhouse yesterday, everybody all sullen, and Charlie walks over to me and whispers, ‘How was London?’

    THAT’S Charlie.”

    Think we have a chance today.

  113. Kevin says:

    I don’t know of any other city that is setup like Pittsburgh. I know of many people that consider themselves “Pittsburgh sports fans” and no one claiming to be a “Philly sports fan” or “Baltimore sports fan”. It maybe that I am just super biased but it seems like there is something special about “Pittsburgh sports” that nobody else has.

  114. Patrick(RI) says:

    He even ran hard on a ground out. Not a regular season specialty of his.

  115. Drew71 says:

    “Black Dressed Man”

    White shirt, black shoes
    and I don’t know what bar I’m goin’ to.
    Gold suit, black tie,
    We all know the reason why.
    Pirates winnin’ just as fast as they can
    coz every fan crazy ’bout a Black Dressed Man.
    Gold watch, Series ring,
    I ain’t missin’ an effin’ thing.
    And Cards stink, their fans groan, when I step out I’m wearin’ skull n bones.
    Pirates winnin’ just as fast as they can
    coz every fan crazy ’bout a Black Dressed Man.
    Gold coat, black hat,
    I don’t worry if my Pedro’s phat.
    Black shades, black gloves,
    lookin’ sharp and lookin’ for love.
    Pirates winnin’ just as fast as they can
    coz every fan crazy ’bout a Black Dressed Man.
    (Guitars. Take it, Dejan)

  116. Russ Hersch says:

    There is something special about Pittsburgh.

  117. Kevin says:

    its not completely indescribale I guess… it feels like family.

  118. Thundercrack says:

    I was at the game yesterday. The crowd was great and certainly nothing to be ashamed of, but it wasn’t as loud as Tuesday. (IMHO).

    It was still very loud in there.

  119. Russ Hersch says:

    Love THAT song! Yours is even better!

  120. Jandy says:


  121. bigchinook says:

    Agree Cutch was in no man’s land. SS was playing close to the bag to keep Cutch close; ball was hit sharply right to the SS withe Cutch 2 steps to the right. If Cutch tries to go back, could have been a tag and throw to first for a double play.

    I have seen it discussed before and again last night on MLBTV; the rule for runners on second is if the ball is in front of you, hold. If it’s hit behind you go. It was far from a ghastly base running error, just bad circumstance that could have been much worse if it was a double play. One can only speculate on the outcome of a tied ballgame in the bottom of the 8th with Byrd coming to the plate; no one on and 2 outs.

    Going media blackout until I get off work and go home and flip the DVR on. Go Busc!

  122. Jandy says:


  123. Jandy says:

    Hi Miss Inga….glad to see more posters around here. We all gotta be supporting our Bucs.
    You from DaBurgh?

  124. Jandy says:

    Maybe he needs to say more….and louder ;)

  125. Jandy says:

    You ok, NMR?


  126. Chuck Snow says:

    Please Charles Morton we need Ground Chuck today. Not 80/20 Ground Chuck,, Not 90/10 Ground Chuck….WE need 100% pure Ground Chuck…Thanking you in advance.

  127. NMR says:

    Ha, that is awesome. I’ve long been a Charlie supporter, and especially have backed him up on the ridiculous “headcase” claims.

    But lefties, man. Lefties.

    If there is any “it” left in Pittsburgh, I’ll be channeling it to Charlie!

  128. NMR says:

    Who did Matheny have left to play 1B?

  129. Kevin says:

    Kelly or should I say KELLLLLL LLEEEEEEEE… just did not sound as good on TV as QUAAAAAAY – TOOOOOOOOOOOOE.

  130. Milo Hamilton says:

    Peter Laviollette has been fired. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Expected to be replaced by noted intellectual Craig Berube. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  131. Nate83 says:

    I just wanted to say a quick thank you to all NL contending teams for not putting a claim in for Byrd. He is absolutely a difference maker. All the money the Pirates make off the playoffs this year should go towards signing him to a 1 year contract.

    On another note Morneau is starting to square some balls up. I think he may be getting close to having a nice stretch.

  132. Scott says:

    I wondered that too but I suppose Matheny figured it wasn’t a big deal since Adams wasn’t the tying run and they were going to need a couple more hits to score anyway. Plus, the Cards had already used a couple pinch hitters, and they have a terrible bench to begin with. If they remove Adams, had the game gone into extras, they wouldn’t have had much left to work with.

  133. kr70 says:


  134. Karen22 says:

    How cool is THAT?!

    And how ironic is THIS? How many third base coaches are currently in the playoffs? What are the chances that someone else who posts on this blog has (had) encounters with a sibling of one of them??

    Answers: Eight – Miniscule!! – Me

    I’ve known Brian Butterfield’s (third base coach for the Boston Red Sox) sister for over ten years. We met on a baseball blog many moons ago. Our friendship has unfolded using every communication method except face-to-face. In fact, I am awaiting a phone call from her right now. You can’t believe our running email banter during these games! She’s rooting mightily for our Pirates, and she is the only reason I wouldn’t be too perturbed if the Sox advanced.

    It would be beyond bizarre if our very first actual encounter would be at the World Series!

    But we’ve both always just had “IT!” And we can both clinch advancing toward that meeting today. Surreal…

  135. Damon says:

    Wow……three games into the season….

    You’re right, that is funny…

  136. Kevin says:

    wow… I didn’t realize he was on that much of a hot seat. Although I guess 0-3 with little to no scoring can do that.

  137. Scott says:

    No, they won’t. No team in any sport looks back and says, Gee, I wish we hadn’t finished first.

    This was a good matchup for the Bucs, though. I will admit that I was pulling for the Cards once it became obvious the division was no longer in play, because the Cards seemed more beatable than the Braves and Dodgers.

  138. Kevin says:

    well said sir! I agree… hes had some fantastic difference making at-bats. We were in 1st place at that time too right? So he had to pass through everyone to get to us. Or am I misremembering?

  139. Baywatch says:

    Morning, LOONIES! I’m actually starting to feel more well-adjusted every DAY! How ’bout y’all?

  140. Baywatch says:

    “How am I supposed to GRILL 100 percent ground chuck,” Jason said, thinking that would equate to a complete game! :-)

  141. Karen22 says:

    Why did that post THERE??

  142. Baywatch says:

    Starting a new Pirates home field PARADIGM! And while I’m on it: “Brother, can you PARADIGM?”

  143. Karen22 says:

    How cool is THAT?!

    And how ironic is THIS? How many third base coaches are currently in the playoffs? What are the chances that someone else who posts on this blog has (had) encounters with a sibling of one of them??

    Answers: Eight – Miniscule!! – Me

    I’ve known Brian Butterfield’s (third base coach for the Boston Red Sox) sister for over ten years. We met on a baseball blog many moons ago. Our friendship has unfolded using every communication method except face-to-face. In fact, I am awaiting a phone call from her right now. You can’t believe our running email banter during these games! She’s rooting mightily for our Pirates, and she is the only reason I wouldn’t be too perturbed if the Sox advanced.

    It would be beyond bizarre if our very first actual encounter would be at the World Series!
    But we’ve both always just had “IT!” And we can both clinch advancing toward that meeting today. Surreal…

  144. Baywatch says:

    “How was London?” LOL! I always thought he had a bit of Fred “The Absent Minded Professor” in him!

  145. JohninOshkosh says:

    Wow. That was a short leash.

    Has plenty of time to deal with his lawsuit against Bank of America.

    Has plenty of time to be Bylsma’s assistant for United States Men’s National Hockey Team as well.

  146. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think Walt Jocketty is one of the best GM’s in baseball, but he blew this one, if for no other reason, to keep us from getting Marlon. Although, it could be someone (Cincinnati’s Frank Coonelly?) is looking over his shoulder. Right after the WC, Walt said Dusty was coming back. Two days later he’s fired. ?????

  147. Scott says:

    Funny, fans on another site are saying Hurdle had a horrible game by not pinch-hitting Sanchez for Morneau in an earlier at-bat and by not leaving Watson in to face the leadoff hitter in the 8th. Hurdle’s decisions are like politics – you can spin them any way you want to support either side depending on your own personal views.

    I think Hurdle had a good game, although in retrospect, it would’ve made sense to allow Watson to face Beltran to start the 8th, then bring in Melancon after that. There’s no law that says you have to switch relief pitchers at the top of every inning.

  148. Karen22 says:

    I was responding to JRay3 above on his encounter with Nick Leyva’s son. Just reposted where it belongs. Geeeez!


  149. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey Bay !

  150. Karen22 says:

    Hubby and I couldn’t figure out what was going on between the box and the ump’s calls. I think BOTH were way off. It was just weird!

  151. Wild Bill says:

    I continue to wish them nothing but misery for as long as Clarke, Holmgren, and any other Broad Street Bullies holdovers have anything to do with that team. Berube as the coach? More of the same – a goon as a head coach.

    I despise no team as much as I do the Flyers.

  152. JohninOshkosh says:

    We want Coatsey as coach!

  153. Kevin says:

    I may be completely crazy.. but I think it would be awesome if Morton threw a perfect game today. It wouldn’t happen though. Because, assuming he did, and we are only up 2-0. He’d probably pull him for Grilli in the 9th. Especially if Morton’s up above 100 pitches. Right? Would you take that chance?

  154. Dom says:

    And to think, there were some people who were against obtaining either individual. :)

  155. Jandy says:

    Both TBS and the umps sucked yesterday ;)
    (And I hate that word sucked) lol

  156. NMR says:

    “I think Hurdle had a good game…”

    Can you explain why?

  157. Karen22 says:

    We have IT!

    I like IT!!

    Let’s do IT!!!


  158. Drew71 says:

    Sent it to my boss.

    Haven’t heard anything back. Yet.

  159. Karen22 says:


  160. NMR says:

    Haha, I love it, Dom.

    Take your shots and enjoy them. You earned this one, buddy.

  161. Jandy says:

    Berube??? oh dear LORD!

  162. Steelag70 says:

    I heard that there is a chance the game may be rained out today??

  163. Kevin says:

    kinda curious where Martin & Byrd are on that list. Obviously Martin has 2 HR as well and atleast 4 RBI. Byrd has a HR and a couple RBI I think.

  164. Jandy says:

    Mornin BayMan :)

  165. Milo Hamilton says:

    Coatsey, leader of The Stepfords. They’ll surely rally around one of their own. They never accepted Laviolette because he wasn’t one of theirs.

  166. Jandy says:

    Wash your mouth out with soap!

  167. Steelag70 says:

    It was a Card’s fan I work with down here who mentioned it though…haha.

  168. Kevin says:

    I thought he had a crappy game but we won anyway because of the magical and intangible IT.

  169. Jandy says:

    UGH forecast changed for Pittsburgh. 40% chance of showers thru 5pm…20% chance thru 8pm

  170. Steelag70 says:

    That does stink….

  171. Jandy says:

    And that is why they should be playing at 7pm, not 3pm :D

  172. Jandy says:

    sure does

  173. Milo Hamilton says:

    No chance. Sun will be shining by 1:00.

  174. Kevin says:

    ITs a small world after all :)

  175. Steelag70 says:

    Agreed….this series has received the shaft when it comes to scheduling games…

  176. Kevin says:

    Oh and Boston’s winning only because they all have playoff beards.

  177. Karen22 says:

    OH NOOOO – Earworm!!!!

  178. Steelag70 says:

    Sooooooo….if by cance the game IS rained out, does CH choose AJ to start game 4 instead of Ground Chuck?

  179. Wild Bill says:

    Might be right about that, Milo. Hadn’t thought of it that way. He still condoned a lot of their cheap crap, though. Was playing Rinaldo, the current resident goon, a lot more this year.

  180. Kevin says:

    hopefully that means it will be cloudy so Marte doesn’t have to deal with a garish sun beam in his face.

  181. Baywatch says:

    Yeah! That’s what I was thinkin’! I’m not REALLY feeling better-adjusted either! Mornin’!

  182. Milo Hamilton says:

    The rain is over. Done. Mix of sun & clouds at game time.

  183. Bizrow says:

    Thought the same thing, TC, was happy he left Adams in there to clog up the bases

  184. Arriba Wilver says:

    BTW, I thought it was very classy to have McClatchy throw out the first pitch yesterday. And Van Slyke today. So far they’ve nailed those (including Drabek).

  185. Arriba Wilver says:


  186. Russ Hersch says:

    Now how about Sid Bream?

  187. Wild Bill says:

    Maybe they’re booking Bonds for a game in the next series. (Ducking quickly)

  188. Hell Unleashed says:

    Yes, please NO turkey burgers today.

    Go Bucs!

  189. Arriba Wilver says:

    Only if we play Atlanta at home. He turned them down. :-D

  190. Russ Hersch says:

    Just BYRD!

  191. camchuck says:

    It is family!! We are Family!!! Go Bucs!

  192. Dom says:

    I agree. I hope nobody booed him.

  193. NMR says:

    Ha, could be.

    I’m not looking for a debate from Scott, just an explanation.

    I can’t think of a single move Hurdle made yesterday that was anything but cookie cutter. I suppose one could consider that itself a “good” game for a manager.

  194. NMR says:

    ‘scuse me, I should have said a single move that added value that wasn’t cookie cutter.

  195. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’d be surprised if the crowd booed anything Pirates yesterday, but have to ask those who were there.

  196. NMR says:

    Gutsy move, wasn’t it?

    Kudos to the Pittsburgh crowd for not turning on him.

  197. Milo Hamilton says:

    He got a huge ovation. I think it even surprised him.

  198. Arriba Wilver says:


  199. Bizrow says:

    Thanks for catching the new signups, the latest is 428 location, 26 countries.

    I’ll post the latest on the game thread.

    The sky is blue here in Shippingport

  200. Lad 9 says:

    Great song and perfect for the day. Thanks JAL!

  201. Wild Bill says:

    Rain has arrived in Snyder Co. Hope it has passed in the ‘burgh.

  202. Jandy says:

    WOW! 428 strong and growing :)
    Good job, Biz!

  203. Wild Bill says:

    Sorry, Milo. Missed your earlier post on that.

  204. Dom says:

    That’s great news. Nobody wants a winner more than him.

  205. Thundercrack says:

    I know I am putting too much thought into this, but I would pick someone other than Van Slyke.

    Isn’t his son on the active roster of the Dodgers? And they could be our next opponent.

  206. Thundercrack says:

    Walt saying that Dusty was coming back was sorta luke-warm.
    He said he’s coming back because he has a contract.

  207. Arriba Wilver says:

    You’re putting too much thought into this. ;-)

  208. Arriba Wilver says:

    But why say it?

  209. Thundercrack says:

    Plus, I as I get older (and so does AVS) I am not as big a fan of his.

    I even think that he has milked the ” I told Barry Bonds to move in before the hit that scored Bream” story a little too much over the years. :-)

  210. Lad 9 says:

    Good morning Lunatics.

    We now have blue skies here in the Burgh and it will be a great day for a ballgame. Got an interesting couple of days shaping up. I will be heading to the game from work around 1:00 and sitting in section 322 row J seats 5&6. Then up 279 North to catch my youngest’s hoop games at 7:00 and 8:00, work in a dinner pick-up while driving back to the South Hills, pass out and wake up and drive to Cleveland in the morning on business. Other than the Cleveland part, I can’t wait! Expecting another great scene on the Shore tonight. LETS GO BUCS!!!! End it!

  211. Milo Hamilton says:

    No problem WB. We’re going to be about 30 degrees colder than yesterday, but the rain is over.

  212. Arriba Wilver says:

    I know he may be a fake, but he’s always been a Pittsburgh favorite. Makes sense to me regardless.

  213. JohninOshkosh says:

    What a great scene last night in Dejan’s Winnipeg. Crowd gave tremendous, extended and numerous ovations to the great Teemu Selänne. He started his career there, and it was the last time he would play there.

    Very classy.

    One of many things that makes me feel my age, though. I remember his debut.

  214. Bob Hasis says:

    These are very interesting observations, and kudos to you for being industrious.

    I would love to believe your opinion in #3 regarding the kids, but if you refer to the TV lineup (and that’s what it is), you’ll see a neatly packaged schedule for the three games on TBS which fits nicely into the venues and the time zones.

    I’m afraid once again it’s ONLY about the money; the kids here can take advantage anyway, as a coincidence.

  215. Nate83 says:

    I’m still not a huge fan of Morneau but thougtht we got him for the appropriate amount. I was just throwing the guy a bone.

  216. Karen22 says:

    NOPE! Weather Channel hourly forecast is for it to clear up by noon and actually says ZERO% chance of rain during game time, and only 20% from 5 p.m. on.

    I don’t think they have a clue. But I DO think this game is a GO!

  217. Kevin says:

    My dad asked a very interesting question of me last night. I did not know the answer. During the regular season, if it rains in the 7th, the game is not tied, and the game is rained out, the game counts. If the same game is played in the postseason, what happens?

  218. Sarah says:

    Sunny now in Banksville!!!

  219. Milo Hamilton says:

    They changed that a couple years ago, Phillies/Rays World Series I believe. All post season games are played to a 9 inning conclusion, no matter how long it takes.

  220. Karen22 says:

    HEY!! No bashing my home town! ;)
    I was seriously praying the Tribe would get the Wild Card to keep alive my dream World Series’ hopes: Bucs/Indians..Sigh…

    Have a GREAT time and bring a Bucco WIN with you to Cleveland!

  221. Nate83 says:

    In 2008 they changed it so that no post season game can be shortened by rain.

    Found that on the internet thingy so I’m not sure how accurate it is.

  222. JohninOshkosh says:

    After the Philly/Tampa Bay debacle, MLB changed postseason rules.

    All postseason games must be played to their conclusion (9 innings or extra, if needed).

  223. NMR says:

    Didn’t St Louis essentially choose Mozeliak/Luhnow over Jocketty?

    This wouldn’t be the first time he wore out his welcome.

  224. Jandy says:

    Teemu is first class.
    Glad to see he is appreciated.

  225. NMR says:

    Shoulda known if you give an inch they’ll take a yard! :)

  226. JohnS says:

    I partially blame AVS for the last 20 years. The Pirates chose to invest in AVS instead of Barry Bonds and that turned out great.

    AVS has definitely improved as a player in his retirrement. He was a good player but he wasn’t a Parker or an Oliver and he certainly wasn’t a Bonds.

  227. Jandy says:

    At least AVS isn’t a cheater or an arrogant b*st*rd

  228. Thundercrack says:

    I thought Bonds rejected the contract and AVS said “if they offered that to me I would take it”

    So they did – and he took it.

  229. Tom P. says:


    It’s good to hear from you. I learn a lot from your posts, such as your comment awhile ago about a throw from an outfielder to the catcher should bounce about 10 feet in front of the catcher. I never knew that, but it makes sense.

    I know that TV scheduling is all about the money. I was just trying to think of a collateral benefit for Pirates fans to the daytime games.

    I hope your school bus driving is going well, that you keep the kids safe and they show you a reasonable amount of respect. My kids are 6th grade and 4th grade, so I know that perfection is not the goal, but please and thank you go a long way.

  230. Kevin says:

    Thanks guys. All of yas. I wonder if that means that they would wait it out or play the 2 innings the day after as a sort of mini-double header..

  231. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m sticking with the fans like him.

    And my main point was it was classy to have Kevin throw out the first ball in the home NLDS.

    The other two were just good decisions.

  232. Jandy says:

    WHY doesn’t that surprise me?

  233. Kevin says:

    ah ok.. good to know.

  234. theplanisworking says:


  235. Kevin says:

    +2 and I agree with you except we can beat the braves. Dodgers frighten me though.

  236. Arriba Wilver says:

    They didn’t offer Bonds arbitration. I don’t blame Bonds for leaving. That was a dumb decision, they got no compensation. To put it another way, it was not a baseball decision, it was a short-sighted financial decision (by the Ownership at the time).

  237. theplanisworking says:

    “No team in any sport looks back and says, Gee, I wish we hadn’t finished first. ”

    Scott, the 1992 New York Rangers on line 1 for you.

  238. Sarah says:

    thoughts on Morton’s success v Cards this year?
    Short leash?

  239. Arriba Wilver says:

    They did. I still believe he’s one of the best. But who am I to question the St. Louis organization? It’s undeniable he picked up the Cincy organization. Win-Win.

  240. Jandy says:


  241. theplanisworking says:

    AW, Biz has 3 planets listed now…….. pick one, and the ump was from there……… ;)

  242. theplanisworking says:


  243. Steelag70 says:

    I sure would love to see ATL come back and win their series with LA…for sentimental purposes…we owe the Braves…lol.

  244. theplanisworking says:

    Monsoon conditions here near Fort Indiantown Gap.
    Rain heavy and blowing sideways………. flooding too.

    Hope we get the game in.

  245. Bizrow says:

    They didn’t offer Bonds arbitration because he threatened to accept it. Or so I remember hearing back then.

  246. Lad 9 says:

    Really cool to know that at least one positive thing came from Cleveland. :) It is actually not that bad and I really like the people. I used to and probably will again have to go Detroit. THAT is a battle zone.

    I want the Tribe to win the AL so we could have had a turnpike series. Would have been awesome!

  247. Arriba Wilver says:

    That’s my recollection, too, Biz.

  248. theplanisworking says:

    Couldnt happen to a nicer club.

    Very few clubs in existance can be called by a number.
    Rangers — 1940.
    Cubs — 1908.
    Indians — 1948.
    Browns — 1964.

    Philthy Flyers — 1975………… forever!

  249. Nate83 says:

    Like an idiot I was reading the blog from the bottom up and when I saw you say Teemu was first class I was thinking Ta’amu who the Steelers had on their team. I was thinking what the heck is Jandy talking about Ta’amu isn’t first class just ask the owners of the 9 cars he crashed into.

    Then I scolled up and saw it was Teemu Selanne you are referring to. Yes he is first class. His buddy Paul Kariya seemed like a good guy as well.

  250. Kevin says:

    HA! well said planet hippo! Hockey is a different kinda animal that’s for sure.

  251. NMR says:

    The Cards aren’t his problem, left handed hitters are. The Cards just happen to have several good ones.

    I wouldn’t give him more than a 25% chance of making it through the order three times without giving up more than three runs.

    Hurdle should be using him and AJ combined in small doses today.

  252. Bob Hasis says:

    My favorite kids to transport are the first through fifth graders.

    I have a lot of fun with that group.

    In fact several of my passengers this morning said they want me to drive real fast so they can get home in time to see the start of the game.

    Sounded like a reasonable request, except they only get out of school at 3 pm, so that’s a tight window, and those big yellow things don’t move fast anyway

  253. Jandy says:

    LOL Nate. You gave me a laugh. I might be female, and bottle blonde…but I know Ta’amu is NOT first class.

    And yes, Kariya too is classy.

  254. theplanisworking says:

    Kevin McClatchy did 3 things that every Pirate fan should forever be grateful to him for.

    1) He got PNC Park Built.
    2) he got an All-Star game to a franchise that just had one in 1994, and really didnt deserve aother one that soon, and
    3) He kept the Pirates in Pittsburgh.

    Wasnt too good on the “technical” side of being an owner, but for the 3 things listed above, we all should thank him every day.

  255. Jandy says:


  256. theplanisworking says:

    All credit goes to you 2, Biz and Jandy.
    I just do mop-up duty…………….

  257. Jandy says:

    excellent idea, NMR!

  258. theplanisworking says:


  259. Jandy says:

    No no no, Hipposter, you and Biz do the bulk of it, I just try to keep ‘em coming…

  260. Jandy says:


  261. Sarah says:

    Well….must they not complete the game in the original venue?? i.e. stay in Pgh for the last 2 innings?

  262. theplanisworking says:

    Thank You ma’am, but you are too generous.

    I am like the night janitor that picks up the leftovers.
    You and Biz are like the cowboys that round them up! ;)

  263. Jandy says:


  264. NMR says:

    Ha, well, they just chose to start Freddy Garcia over Paul Maholm tonight, so they may need some “it”, themselves.

  265. Nate83 says:

    You brought this up the other day and I completely agree with it. Unfortunately I don’t think it will happen. If Morton only goes 4 or 5 I think you will see Mazzarro.

  266. cmat0829 says:

    wow, you must love coming up with managerial second-guessing scenarios…. Morton perfect game through 8? 2-0 Pirates lead?

    Ok I’ll bite, this is the playoffs and you do everything you can to win the game. If that means removing a pitcher with a perfect game going then you do it. Period and end of discussion.

  267. Kevin says:

    That would be brilliant… maybe give Charlie 4 innings, AJ 2 innings, then bring in the shark tank.

  268. cmat0829 says:

    I’m not an umpire, but I think we need to expect a few things from umps in a postseason series:

    1. Be IN POSITION to see the play fully
    2. Apply logical principles

    In this case, the ball beat the runner, no doubt about that. The runner slid into the base (i.e. there was no elusive slide attempt per se). The fielder caught the ball and applied the tag.

    With these facts, you actually don’t need to ‘see the replay’ magnified or otherwise. You would make the call that best supports the logic and call the out. Odds of being wrong are way way lower if you call out then if you call safe. To me, calling it safe means that you 100% no doubt SAW the runners’ foot hit he bag before the tag. We know that was not possible on that play. If that wasn’t possible, then what other reason would the ump have for calling safe? The facts did not support that call.

    It was a pivotal call…. led directly to 2 runs scored by the Cards.

  269. Nate83 says:

    Wow, I’m sure after hearing that news some braves fans said a word that includes the word it.

    I’m glad that even without Wandy the Pirates are able to put something out there that is better then Garcia at this point in his career.

    I’m not sure but I think he has had a history of pitching well in the playoffs. So maybe there is some hope that he has some of the “it” that will be needed.

  270. Dom says:

    I would prefer to face Atlanta too but if we would clinch it today and that series goes to a game five then we’re going to be on a four or five day break. I think that break is too long. However, it would probably be better than facing the Dodgers.

  271. cmat0829 says:

    Adams MIGHT be faster runner than Holliday…especially if there is food at the end of the race. But I don’t even know who the backup 1B is for the Cards.. but if memory serves the pinchhitter used was Robinson the outfielder…and they used Descalso at 3B… They have Cruz the backup catcher and Wong the backup 2B… who is the last remaining Card bench player? That must be who plays 1B.

  272. ozburger says:

    Geelong, Australia (currently in Buenos AIres trying to find a sports bar for Game 4 – any suggestions?)

  273. NMR says:

    You have a thankless job, sir, but I appreciate what you do.

    Keeping our kids safe should be priority number one, and you handle the most dangerous part of their school day.

  274. cmat0829 says:

    so cookie cutter moves, which I suppose you define as any that are ‘by the book’ are to be disregarded entirely?

    So a manager can have a good game (and I reject that premise anyway, but for discussion sakes), he needs to make decisions that aren’t cookie cutter and those have to work out…then he can have a good game?

  275. Jandy says:


  276. NMR says:

    Ya know, that might work even better. Mazzaro and/or Jeanmar could have just as much success as AJ.

  277. Jandy says:

    I would think so, Sarah.

  278. cmat0829 says:

    Maholm would be absolutely ROCKED by the Dodgers at this point so this is kind-of a desparation move but they must figure Garcia is slightly better than the disastrous option that is Maholm.

  279. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    The Dodger factor is the one thing in these playoffs that just sickens me.
    Living out here, I get to see and hear it first hand, and they are a big-headed (and big paid) bunch if there ever was one.
    I don’t see anyway that the Dodgers don’t destroy the Braves (again) tonight.
    I try not to think about the Pirates going up against those idiots if they prevail over the Cardinals.

  280. toochca says:

    I don’t care who we play!! I just want to play in the NLDS and beyond!

    One saying I always like to use is “Be careful what you wish for…”

  281. toochca says:

    I’m with you on this!! Tired of the Dodgers!! Live here as well!

  282. Lad 9 says:

    JANDY! Lets go Bucs!

  283. Karen22 says:

    HAHAHA, Lad!! I lived in Detroit for the six years between Cleveland and Indiana, PA!!

    And I only admit to that for exactly TWO reasons: The 1984 Tigers…and the fact that my son was born there!!

    Battle zone then…battle zone STILL. The true armpit of the nation!!

  284. theplanisworking says:

    Wholeheartedly agree!!

    You know Sleepy Bud is pulling for a Dodgers-Red Sox Series!!!

    I just hope we get a chance to play them!

  285. Jandy says:

    Dayum right!

  286. Karen22 says:

    Be well, Brandie! I know you are going through some tough times.

  287. Steelag70 says:

    I’m just praying for the “good” Charlie to show up today…..

  288. A1C McG says:

    After last night the braves look extremely beatable

  289. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    From the looks of that umpiring yesterday….They got the memo on that Red Sox-Dodger World Series!

  290. NMR says:

    By adding “disregarded entirely”, it feels like you’re only leaving two options: good or bad.

    I don’t believe that is ever the case with any player or manager.

    If a hitter goes 1-4, or a pitcher goes six innings while giving up three runs, aren’t those average games? People don’t usually say Player X had a good or bad game, do they?

    Why should managers be any different?

    Why should we give them credit for a “good” game when they simply fill out the lineup card as they always do, pull the starting pitcher after six, and let the usual relievers each take a crack at an inning?

    No part of that strikes me as requiring anything that can be rewarded as more than an average effort.

  291. theplanisworking says:


  292. CWalton_67 says:

    “It” is high morale, and esprit de corps. “It” is the power of the human spirit, and the simple will to win. “It” is a result of good training and mental discipline that breeds confidence. “It” is what makes United States Paratroopers, Rangers, and Marines what they are. “It” wins wars, and baseball games as well.

  293. Jandy says:

    Well said, CWalton!

  294. hockeymonster says:

    So been hearing about anaheim scouting the pens for d-men. Just jumping on to say that trading PM should totally be off the table. Even if the ducks want to part with a jonas hiller to give us serious depth in goal or promising prospects like Friberg and Laganiere, there’s no way i even consider it. Would much rather trade despres, Maatta and bortuzzo in a package deal.

  295. theplanisworking says:

    ” Raise The Jolly Me ” !!!

    Priceless !!!!!!

  296. JohnS says:

    If you want to argue AVS wasn’t a cheater that is one thing but to say he wasn’t arrogant isn’t accurate and he has become more arrogant the further away from his playng days he gets.

    How the Pirates couldn’t have offered Bonds arbitration is still mind boggling. They just let him walk away without any form of compensation. You have to make the offer and if you don’t wnat to pay you start working on the trade.

  297. theplanisworking says:

    Interesting take from Yohe’s article………….

    Not one single mention of Jacques Martin. Not one.
    I think the implementation of the 1-3-1 wing lock… or zone trap, has benefitted the defense immeasurably. Not having all 5 players rush into the offensive end has helped also.
    Question is, who is behind this shift in philosophy………. Bylsma, or Martin??? It just seems strange to hear no mention of Martin.

    I certainly hope they keep it up.

  298. hockeymonster says:

    Ya i cant believe no one in town last few seasons suggested that we should be playing the trap more often….

  299. Jandy says:

    The sky is falling!

  300. michael DE Pitt says:

    Why can’t I get enough We Are Family?

    It’s as good as cowbell today


  301. CWalton_67 says:

    A very astute observation. Yohe is usually pretty sharp. I wonder how he failed to ask the question? And Bylsma is usually very gracious in giving credit to others.

    Also makes you wonder if they are trying to keep some secret?

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