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On location: Cardinals 2, Pirates 1, NLDS Game 4

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates vs. St. Louis Cardinals, National League Division Series, Game 4

Series: Pirates, 2-1

Starters: RHP Charlie Morton vs. RHP Michael Wacha

Time: 3:07 p.m.

Site: PNC Park

TV, radio: TBS (national), 93.7 The Fan, ESPN Radio 970

Here’s the official live box score.

Pirates:

  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Justin Morneau, 1B
  5. Marlon Byrd, RF
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Morton, P

Cardinals:

  1. Matt Carpenter, 2B
  2. Carlos Beltran, RF
  3. Matt Holliday, LF
  4. Matt Adams, 1B
  5. Yadier Molina, C
  6. Jon Jay, CF
  7. David Freese, 3B
  8. Pete Kozma, SS
  9. Wacha, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates pageRob Biertempfel, Travis Sawchik, Karen Price and I are on the scene.

Here again is the Monday column on Game 3.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.

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  2. Wow.

    Matheny doing the Pirates a huge favor starting Kozma over Descalso.

  3. Game starts at 3:07. Family eats dinner around 6. I sense a looming conflict between the conclusion of the game and the household rule of “No TV / electronic devices at the dinner table.” The stuff I didn’t have to worry about for 21 years.

  4. Instead of focusing on Good Charlie/Bad Charlie stuff and whether or not he is up to postseason or whether or not he ought to be starting, I’m focusing on this:

    Michael Wacha is 22 years old, looks like he just started shaving, and will be pitching in his 16th Major League game in front of a boisterous and clever crowd.

    The Redbird fans are the ones that should be fretting.

    CHARLES IN CHARGE.

    • See Sonny Gray and Gerrit Cole!!

      • I know….but I’m a believer in laws of averages. It’s about time one of these young ‘uns is human and lets the pressure get to him. Might as well be Wacha Wacha Do.

        Plus, those other two guys weren’t pitching in elimination games on the road.

    • Another no-name pitcher that the Pirates can’t hit. This is the one game in five, where the
      Bucs can’t seem to be able to even get a hit. Cy Young for Wacha-Wacha-Do??? Bucs
      would be more patient at the plate, but the plate umpire sucks, calling many strikes, balls
      for the Cards

  5. To the Cardinals and all my Cardinal friends: Hoka Hey!

  6. I know the Cardinals only had like 72 errors this year but defensively I’m just not that impressed by them. Especially the outfield. How many runs have their outfielders cost them by not getting to balls or having weak arms.

    Holliday sure looks like a first baseman instead of an outfielder to me. Really doesn’t do anything that well defensively. Jay doesn’t have many errors but really doesn’t seem to cover much ground. Beltran’s probably an average right fielder but they definately don’t resemble anything close to what the Pirates put out there. If Byrd is the weakest defensive player I will take that every game agains any team.

    • I’d love to hear how many Front Offices bother to even track errors as a judge of defensive ability.

      • I hope none, but you hear national media spouting off errors as a means of judging a players defensive ability and everyone starts to believe it.

        How many time during these playoffs have you already heard people say how bad Pedro is defensively and how surprised they are by some of the plays he’s making? They are using his high error total as the only method of judging him defensivelyl. I’m not sure but think he probably gets rid of half those errors on plays he has made that a lot of third baseman wouldn’t have.

        I’m not saying he is Muchado but he is better then his error total would suggest.

        • Oh, I’m with you all the way.

          I think the national guys have to water down their content for the intended audience and casual fans get “errors”.

          • That’s fine but then they shouldn’t act surprised when Alverez makes nice plays.

            I think you are correct about what they have or can do. I just saw an interview on MLB network a few weeks ago with Scott Posednik who is now an announcer and he was telling Brian Kenney that he always ask his boss how much sabermetrics he can use and almost all of them said to use as little as possible. He told Kenney he doesn’t like acting like a pitcher with 18 wins is better then a guy he knows is better with 13 wins but he kind of has to waterdown his analysis.

            • Ha, nice story.

              Frankly, I’ve been a bit suprised at their heavy use of pitch percentages.

              Can’t imagine my Dad giving two hoots about something like that (I use my Dad as my barometer).

          • Errahs.

        • I don’t use Pedro’s errors as the only method of judging him defensively. I use his awful foot work, stone hands, minimal range, and flopping ole method (instead of getting in front of the ball – which goes back to footwork) for that.
          That said, Pedro’s fielding is much like his hitting – When he’s doing it well, it’s awesome to watch. Hoping he keeps it up for 4 more weeks!

  7. MULTI-LINE MONDAY!!!

    The Window will continue throughout the duration of the playoffs.
    September and October will be combined and all winners will be announced at the conclusion of the playoffs.
    ENJOY!

    ******PLEASE READ WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW******
    PLEASE PLACE YOUR “WAGERS” AS REPLIES IN THIS COMMENT BOX
    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
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    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
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    NEW PLAYERS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME & ENCOURAGED!!

    Line #1
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    Line is 3.5

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    GOOD LUCK!!!

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    Mark 9:23

    KEEP CALM & WIN ONE GAME

  8. I’m not sure if the 8 day gap between starts for Morton will help or hurt him…..my guess is it will help give him a little extra rest to lay it all out today. Thoughts?

    • It’s certainly possible his sinker works better when he’s not so strong.

    • Morton had a year-long gap between starts…and it still didn’t help him get lefties out.

      I know I’m beating it up, but that really is the defining factor in this game. If he can’t outperform his season and career performance against lefties, he could get every righty out and still struggle.

      • Guess what we can hope for is for Morton to limit the lefty damage to singles or doubles with no one on.

        What’s scary is that the Cards are hitting terribly with runners in scoring position so far this series, so hopefully that trend doesn’t reverse back to normal for them.

        What’s also scary is “hoping” your starter bucks his trend of having trouble vs. lefties. But I guess that’s all a part of having “it”….

    • Never good for a sinkerballer. With too much rest they tend to over throw & leave pitches up.

    • Don’t know which Morton will show up today, but if it’s the bad Morton, I hope Hurdle
      will have enough sense to pull him early, before too much damage is done. It shouldn’t be too hard to tell if he doesn’t have his stuff today. We have excellent relievers, both lefty
      and righty. GO,BUCS!!!

  9. I just had a guy say to me, “I can’t believe all the idiots that called off work today.” I came right back with my stock reply, “I feel sorry for people not intelligent enough to understand sports.” It was met with the same blank look it always gets. :)

  10. is the sun still shining in DaBurgh? Seriously?

  11. To all my Cardinals friends………… SUCK IT !

    That’s all I got for now…………

    GO BUCS !!!!!!!!!!

    • I honestly think St. Loooie is feeling the pressure, or “it”.

      After they swept us in September, their comments were that they didnt worry about the Bucs, they were more worried about the Reds. Then, they made a mad dash to get the best overall record.

      Now, they are/were huge favorites over the Bucs, but now, down 2-1, they are realizing one more loss, and they are GONE! I firmly believe that the pressure is on them today, and even though they have come back in previous years, The Pirates are a hungrier bunch.

      I believe the Bucs close it out today.

      • After watching what they did to the Nationals last year, I wouldn’t bat an eye if Yadi Molina got cut and ice flowed out instead of blood.

        How many Pirates want to face Wainwright in St Louis again?

        • This is funny because I just told my friend a minute before reading this that I didn’t want to face Wainwright again. I then corrected myself and said I don’t want the Pirates to face Wainwright.

          He’s a Tigers fan and they just fell behind 1-0. Sanchez already is over 50 pitches thru 3 innings. That bullpen is going to be their undoing.

          • “That bullpen is going to be their undoing.”

            Correct me if I’m as, as you know way more about the Tigers, but wasn’t this obvious going back to LAST post season?

            • Yes and they did nothing to adress the issue. They have 2 or 3 good arms but they are more suited for Wilson, Watson roles.

              Garcia could have maybe gotten a good reliever at the trade deadline but that chip had to be cashed in for a shortstop to fill in for Perralta. They really don’t have much of a minor league. They literally are all in but have no closer. Red Sox pitching can match them I think. They also hit better with RISP and have more contact hitters at the top of the line up.

              As good as Austin Jackson can be he strikes out a ton. Pedrioa and Ellsbury > Infante and Jackson. Should be a good series if it happens. I’m rooting for A’s.

              • For all that Dombkowski has done, seems nothing short of stubborn to refuse to address this issue.

                Thanks for the rundown, buddy.

        • If it goes back to St. Louis, I would start Cole. He has probably had enough rest since his last start, and with off days, he should be ready to go. I have
          a bad feeling about Morton going today.When he is bad, he is very bad.

        • Not it!!

          I’ve been saying that all along.

          I was very confident in the Pirates behind Cole and Liriano.

          Felt CM is the wild card. Must have short leash.

  12. Watching beginning of A’s/Tigers. It was noted that when teams split the first two games, the team that wins game three has won 9 of last 10 DS.

  13. Gotta git some stuff done…be back in a bit…

  14. All due respect to Pedro for coming on strong, but I think the best weapon against the Redbirds is Byrdshot. Go ahead, throw him that fastball!

  15. So the sixteen-year-old has a JV football game at 6:00 and is going to miss the fun today. I know he set the DVR, but I’ve been debating: spoil things and tell him what he missed or stay away from him so he can’t tell by my expression whether or not good prevailed. Then it hit me: it’s 2013. He’ll hit twitter before the shoulder pads are off.

    Enjoy the day everyone. We’re only playing one, Ernie, but it’s a great day for a ball game.

  16. Over/Under on # of posts on this thread today?

    Late afternoon game. No Pens game tonight. If Pirates advance, folks will be excited and wanting to share their thoughts. I’m putting it at:

    1400

  17. Really need a better effort from Starling today.

    MUST maintain focus.

  18. OK, here’s the Pirates token game day Morneau-needs-to-start-driving-in-runs-or-hitting-HRs post:

    Morneau needs to start driving in runs or hitting HRs.

    • It would be nice, but given the makeup of the rest of this lineup, I’m fine with Morneau just continuing to get on base a few times a game. As Games 2 and 3 show, good things happen to Byrd, Alvarez and Martin when Cutch and Morenau are on base.

      • At some point the Pirates are going to need him to contribute RBIs if Byrd, Alvarez, Martin and Cutch can’t….or they need 8 or 9 runs to win today’s game.

        • Instead of expecting him to be something isn’t, they really just need to move him to a spot where his assets benefit the team.

          How many at-bats has Cutch had with men on base this post season?

          • And to think I was the one that was accused of beating the Morneau isn’t all that drum way to much. To the point that I imposed a no speaking badly about Morneau rule on myself.

            • If I were you I’d be disappointed nobody is giving me credit for disagreing with one of Huntington’s moves. :)

              • To be fair I disagreed with it before it happened. I actually thought the deal that ended up happening was a good one. I didn’t think we could get him for a 5th outfielder and a good reliever.

                Morneau not hitting for power and the Pirates still winning is just a small bonus for my ego. Hopefully it hits 4 homeruns over the next 6 or 7 games and puts my ego back were it belongs.

            • Whether he hits or not, it was a good move.

              • I agree AW. I’ve been actually defending the guy because he has contributed in the field and with his approach at the plate. It hasn’t translated to runs batted in but his at bats have not been empty like Jones had been more often then not. He has walked to moved batters along. I’m not sure he should be batting clean up but he hasn’t been bad.

            • Agree with A-Dub, it was a good move. Nobody was (or should have been) under the delusion we were getting the Morneau of August. But he makes both the lineup and the bench better. Sure I thought he’d have a couple of HRs by now, but the team is scoring almost 5 runs a game in the playoffs (including Wainwright’s domination) so who cares if it’s Cutch and Morneau setting the table for Byrd, Pedro and Martin or Marte and Walker setting the table for Cutch and Morneau?

              Don’t change a thing until you have to.

              • “Don’t change a thing until you have to.”

                How many second chances do you expect to receive?

                This is the post season.

              • Don’t get that, NMR. What would you change, up 2-1?

              • Very minor…just putting Morneau in the two spot.

                Only two problems I’ve seen thus far with the offense:

                -top of the order getting on base
                -Cutch getting pitches to hit with men on base

                I just don’t trust the offense to continue putting up runs without Cutch doing the damage.

                Just as with Game 1, I’m not comfortable waiting.

            • Better than bashing Clint Barmes for his lack of defense.

          • i think at this point, at least for game 4 (and possibly 5), CH will go with a “If IT is not broken then don’t fix IT”. Don’t expect a lineup move at this point, More-no and Ped-ro will stay where they are.

            For NLCS may be time to make that adjustment in the long break the Bucs will have. :)

    • We also need a Walker sighting…

  19. I wonder if the President’s Cup streaker will show up at the game today?

  20. Why can’t I get enough We Are Family?

    It’s as good as cowbell today

    Give Me MORE SLEDGE

  21. If I’m Hurdle, I go into this game willing to guarantee Charlie one turn through the Cardinal lineup. From that point on, he’s getting the hook with the first look of trouble.

    Just a look at how hitters fair each turn through the order:

    1st time: .195/.281/.213/.494
    2nd time: .303/.380/.434/.815
    3rd time: .295/.360/.402/.762
    4th time: .333/.429/.500/.929

    Those are just his numbers this year, but they are very similar to his career line. That’s one of the reasons that I’ve stated Charlie is best suited for the pen… at least until he develops a third pitch. He’s nearly untouchable the first time through.

    • Wow, great stuff, Boston.

      • Yea, everyone is going to see their numbers get worse each time through the lineup. But with Charlie, it’s like he goes from turning every hitter into the opposing pitcher, to turning every hitter into Chipper Jones as soon as the lineup turns over.

        A change up or cutter would help that. But that’s besides the point.

        Hurdle has Wilson who can go at least 2 IP if necessary, as well as Gomez. I don’t care what the score is, if it gets into the 3rd or 4th, and Charlies gives up a walk and a double, he’s coming out of the game. There is no reason to mess around and screw this game up… No reason to take this series back to St. Louis.

    • With Chawlie’s past numbers against STL, I was hoping Hurdle would have a quick hook if he showed any signs of struggling. Your stats just reinforce that feeling. Of course if the Bucs are up by 7 runs, cut him a little slack. Very little.

  22. Charlie Morton has the highest ERA (6.52) against the Cardinals of any active starting pitcher in baseball.

  23. I’m nervouis but yinz just need to stop & revel in the glory

  24. I guess the Buccos should just not bother to show up today then, since the mood here seems to be the Buccos will struggle…. ;)

    • ha! Speak for yerself, me fine friend :P

      • Just got on a litle bit ago whats up with this and I hope it doesn’t translate to the park because the Bucs need us in DE but more so in the park

        I’m just guessing because unfamiliar territory?

        M

    • You forgot about “It.”

    • I think we are talking too much about Morton and not enough about Wacha. When he is locating he is tough when he misses his spots and falls behind he is definately hittable. Let’s hope the Wacha that struggles to locate shows up today. He is every bit as likely to have a bad outing as Charlie.

    • I don’t think the Pirates will struggle. But I also don’t think Charlie is going 7+ of shutout baseball. It’s more likely he cruises through the first three IP, then starts to give up a few base runners (at which point I hope Hurdle doesn’t hesitate to pull him).

      I also think it’s likely the pressure gets to Wacca and he struggles to make it through the 5th. I see this game being decided by the bullpens. And if that is the case, I’ll put my booty on the Buccos every time.

      • Most times I would put my money on the Bucs bullpen but with the Cards I think it’s a coin flip. They are really deep and have multiple power throwing arms left and right. We are watching the most complete bullpens in the league along with Atlanta which may be not as deep but very good on the backend.

        • I’d be interested to see a bullpen ERA comp through the 2013 playoffs so far. I think the HR Beltran hit last night was the first ER the Pirates ‘pen has given up in 10+ IP

          • I was just talking in general over 162 games. I’m not sure about the playoffs but three blow out games isn’t a good barometer on how they would pitch in close games.

  25. So is it too early to bring up the fact that we should be rooting for ATL tonight so Kershaw has to pitch game 5? Putting faith in Freddy Garcia may be the dumbest thing I’ve ever done. Or at least in the top hundred.

  26. If they’re going to win this series, they have to take it today.

    Beat em Bucs!

  27. At least we have good announcers today.

    I remember Dick Stockton doing excellent work on NBA basketball back in the day.

  28. Howdy all,

    So I still say these start times suck, but what makes it worse, is I’m back to work this week. I had last week off so I was able to enjoy the games on my couch.

    Noon start time here so at least I can eat my lunch while I view the GAMECAST, which is always a joy.

    I stated waaaayyyy up there, that I have considered CM’s start today the real wild card in this series.

    Some great stats from Boston up above about how CM does going through the lineup. I’m sure Hurdle knows these numbers as well, and then some.

    I do feel that CM will go a strong 5-6 innings today, limiting the damage of the Cards.

    I read some the posts about CM sucking it up against lefties, didn’t see any stats so actually looked them up myself.

    The suprising thing that jumpted out at me was his walk rate. 25 walks to LH in 229 plate appearances. The other, BAbip is a staggering .379. Yea, I’d say he has a hard time getting LH’s out.

    Matt Adams could be the difference in this game. Outside of Beltran of course. Doesn’t matter what side of the plate he’s on.

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  30. Afternoon Loonies! The moment has arrived…As Bob Prince would have said “It’s rug cuttin’ time”. Let’s finish this up today, Gentlemen!

  31. If it’s me, 1st guy out of the bullpen today if it’s early – AJ Burnett.

  32. 6-3 Pirates. Morton, 6+ innings 4-5 hits, 2 ers. Walker & Byrd hitting stars.

    • Ok…sounds good, Patrick. I was thinking…Petey is going to have a big day and Cutch is going to make up for his miscue last night. 8-2. Maybe way too high…but hey, we can dream.

    • Sounds good to me, but I think its 4-3 Buccos. CM with 5+ with 3er.

      I’ll take More-NO as my pick to click today..

  33. He’ll walk Beltran.

  34. 3 pitches, Charlie strikes out Carpenter

  35. Beltran grounds out :)

  36. Grrr! Holiday gets a single.

  37. Thata boy, morneau!

  38. Adams Family Lunch Pail batting…

  39. Justin Morneau, Ladies and Germs.

  40. nice start….

  41. What sucks about GAMECAST. Is I can’t actually watch the game.

    I can see the results, but not the delivery. That’s what I enjoy about watching a game.

  42. Marte need to bunt his way on.

  43. When Dejan was a beat writer, he would always take a picture of PNC on the last home game of the season, post it and remind us that we would not see such a scene for 6 more months.

    He can’t do that today. No certainty that this is the last home game of the year. How terrific is that ?

    Crowd is great early.

  44. Greetings one and all…got here a little late but feeling good about today’s game.

  45. Wacha throwing a lot of 4 seam fastballs

  46. Pirates have a nice advantage if this game is tight — Cards will be under much greater pressure to pinch hit for pitcher.

  47. What’s that list again, Milo ?

    1. Larsen
    2. Halladay

    (Just trying to jinx the kid early).

  48. Bleacher Report.
    Ugh.

  49. Marte bunting to get on base early in the game is not a bad thing… at all. Puts the infield on notice and, in some cases, makes a guy like Cueto bust his tail to field the ball and make a play and maybe cause some damage.

    Bunting for a hit, especially when you’re not getting many hits at all, is not a bad thing.

  50. By the way, finally an umpire who looks like he has a clue.

  51. I am just checking Gamecast from time to time (this working thing!)…but who is the plate umpire today? Is he calling “fairly” in the first inning or so?

  52. Jim Joyce is at first. Many an infamous call in long history of baseball at that bag. Including one from him.

  53. Looks like he’s getting ground balls….always a good sign.

  54. GROUND CHUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. three up and three down again. Good job Charlie!

  56. Ok….let’s get the bats going Buccos…

  57. I was curious, but it doesn’t appear that Allen Craig is hurt.

    Why is he not playing again?

    I’m not complaining. Seems odd to me.

  58. Morneau have bat speed for this kid?

  59. Um, I just found out you can watch the TBS broadcast at TBS.com. Frigging awesome!!!

  60. His fastball is nice… perfect 2-0 fastball up in the zone to Morneau… Pedro’s going to crush one of those if Wacha’s not careful.

  61. Kershaw going tonight for the Dodgers.

  62. Greetings from 210

    Crazy crowd again

    No black rally towels today

    Range Resources coulda sprung for them!

  63. Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!! Waaa…kaaa!!!
    Waaa…kaaa!!!

  64. So far, it appears Byrd is the only guy with a chance. Barmes may surprise, though.

  65. Well, this now has become a 7 inning ballgame….

  66. Ground chuck?

    More like Ground Sirloin!

  67. Alrighty then! three more outs…Go Charlie!!!

  68. Not a fan of Carpenter. I mean, I am, but not against us.

    Seems as though the Pirates have shut him down this series.

    ………..so far

  69. Let’s go, BATS!!

  70. Looks like Jim Leyland and Co. are have issues with the A’s. 6-3 in the 7th.

  71. Big drop off in temperature there today.

    What gives? Or is it normal PA weather?

  72. Take EVERY pitch until, you’re down to two strikes, Morton.

  73. Almost!

  74. First two curveballs of the day looked like they froze Martin. Uh oh.

  75. Alright, let’s see what Charlie can do to the heart of the order 2nd time through.

    Hoping that Boston’s numbers will be ignored.

  76. Is this game on pace to be the fastest playoff game ever?

    • Not with 3:00 in between each half inning. THREE FREAKING MINUTES. 2:30 of commercials between each half inning… 56 minutes of NOTHING.

  77. ANOTHER pukish, weak slow roller by the Cards.

    So sick of watching those nubbers.

  78. Wacha is on today….the kid really can pitch. I watched him pitch many games at A&M….just wish he would not be so good today…

  79. I don’t like the way this game is going. It’s hard to imagine that Morton is going to keep pitching this way throughout the entire game but Wacha is making us look horrible.

  80. Good Cholly!! 4 scoreless and through the teeth of the Cards lineup. LETS GET SOME RUNS!!!!

  81. Time to get the bats going!

  82. NO HITTER NO HITTER NO HITTER

  83. OK, gotta go home…10 minute drive….then turn it on there :)
    Goooo Bucs!

  84. They have to start getting the pitchcount up for Wacha.

  85. Wacha working quickly, looking very confident. Bucs need to battle and get a hit and see if that pace changes…. so far he is using his fastball more than I thought he would…. it just takes one to get this started!!!

  86. They’ve got no chance.

  87. I can’t tell on gamecast. Most pitches are strikes many near the middle of the plate. Are pitches moving that much or are the Pirate hitters just missing.

    • for the most part, Wacha is just dealing his fastball (95-97) on the outer edge of the strike zone, up. A few change ups sprinkled in. Looks very, very in command. Byrd has had best at bat so far, made him work.

    • That’s the one thing I wish GAMECAST could tell you. What pitch was thrown.

  88. Wacha is looking a lot like Wainwright did in that first game…

  89. Dude owns the mound and the batter’s box… really have to do something to disrupt his rhythm. The non-committed, lame fake bunt from Marte was stupid…just bunt for a hit and try to make him make a play… never know when wet grass makes a guy slip.

    May have to take drastic measures and pretend an eye issue or a contact issue and call out the trainer… and then do it it again. He’s almost quick-pitching these guys every pitch.

  90. The Bucs were 2 for 30 against Wacha this season. They are now 2 for 42. The funny part is, this guy looks very hittable. At least too, me – a mere layman observer…..

  91. The Dodgers are pitching Kershaw tonight.

  92. Morton paints three corners and gets no calls… when a guy hits corners at 95 to 97mph, he tends to get those calls… or at least he is today.

  93. Just saw Rob B. retweet this.

    “@MAppel26 4m

    Rooting for my dude @MichaelWacha today! Nothing better than this. Good luck man!”

    No words. Hopefully this will give our bats the “it” they’ve been lacking through the first 4 innings.

  94. And ANOTHER seeing eye, 8 bounce single. Absolutely hate watching this team hit. Talk about fluke hits.

  95. tough spot for cholly!! deep breaths…

  96. Huge at-bat here.

  97. If the ump calls those pitches to Freese strikes, like they were, Kozma’s nubber is an easy out. How millimeters can determine a game…

  98. THAT WAS HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  99. BEAUTI-FUL… Morton K’s Carpenter who is one tough out….. Cholly shutting out Cards (and their tough left handed hitters who are unstoppable with RISP) through 5.

    That’s why they play the game folks… lucky we don’t just let the computer decide things.

  100. Scoreless through 4.5 innings. Charlie held tough in that situation.

  101. Playoff baseball folks….

  102. Mike Matheny called, he said that K by Morton there was a ‘momentum shifting play’.

  103. For how well Wacha is pitching, Charlie is right there toe-to-toe with him. But at least he’s kept it interesting, a 2 hits/2 walks. Wacha’s keeping all that to himself.

    Loser.

  104. Just got home. Been getting updates until now. Go Bucs! Seen some pesimisam in some of the posts. We are in a pitchers duel in the playoffs. Enjoy it kiddos, it don’t get much better than this. Pull like hell. Go Bucs! Lets get some hits.

    Would be a great time for Justin’s first dinger.

  105. Maybe that will ignite the momentum for the bats to wake up……is too late to call on Jobu??

  106. Huge out right there. Sixth inning with Beltran, Holiday, Adams and Molina will be bigger still.

  107. I need a defibrillator!

  108. If Morton gets through the heart of the order in the the 6th he could give us 7 innings today. Couldn’t ask for more.

  109. Gotta get a baserunner and get this guy in the stretch…. lean into one – somebody…….

  110. I know the Bucs lie in fear of the change up… but Wacha has been very very consistent on the upper outside edge of the zone with fastballs…. do the Bucs hitters think about perhaps ‘going Matt Holliday” on those pitches and strictly going for the opposite field hit?? Byrd there tried to pull the 97 up and outside pitch…ain’t gonna happen

  111. Why swing at 0-3????

  112. Pedro hasn’t gone deep in a while

  113. 3-0 pitch and Pedro does nothing with it……awesome.

  114. no disrepect to Cholly but I’d have Justin Wilson throwing in the pen right at the start of the inning…..

    and I also pitch very carefully to Beltran… a walk, not ideal, wouldn’t be a killer, sets up DP for Holiday.

  115. Com on Buccos…at least one freakin’ hit please…..

  116. I never understood why they swung at a 3-0 count. Especially when we have done nothing all day at the plate.

    Wacha has only thrown 62 pitches. He isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

  117. Have the Pirate hitters stepped out of the batters box or called time a few time to try and disrupt this guys timeing? On gamecast it seems as if there is a pitch every 10-15 seconds. If they are not doing it they need to slow this kid down and get him out of his groove.

  118. Why the heck couldn’t you pitch like that at A&M Wacha?? Geezzz….

  119. Some signs of weakening in kid’s stuff. Keep game tied and pressure mounts more on the 1-2 team, I don’t care if Cy Young is pitching for them(he apparently is).

  120. Big inning for Charlie here.

  121. Going to be no-hit by a rook folks…

  122. Cholly pitches Beltran as I suspected..nothing he can lift out of the park….

  123. Leadoff man on again. Need a GIDP, I like the around the 4-6-3 with Holiday in the box…..

  124. Justin should be up in the pen…. Adams next….

  125. Morton dodged a bullet twice with his walks. Don’t know if he can do it again.

  126. 2-0 Bad guys. :(

  127. Doggone it Charlie.

  128. Not good at all!

  129. Uggghhh….

  130. Time to get him out CH….

  131. wow my most hated Cardinal goes deep and it’s 2-0. With Wacha pitching, feels like 6-0. Energy sapped out of the team and the park.

    GET IT BACK, guys… it’s not over yet……. 4 more at bats….. LETS GO BUCS

  132. Crushed a decent pitch… not the best… thought he had him struck out on the pitch prior. Bucs need to run into one, but they won’t get to the ‘pen today… maybe in the 9th.

  133. Uh-oh.

  134. Detroit and A’s just had bench clearing incident. Victor Martinez fouled a ball off and you can hear an audible F— you Martinez from Belfour on the mound and Martinez just went towards the mound and the benches cleared.

  135. Dammit, that’s what I was worried about.

  136. craaaaappppp

  137. Freakin’ Cards…

  138. We still have time

  139. ?%*!&*!!?$#!!!!

  140. Looks like we’ll be heading back to St Louis….

  141. Another walk after two quick outs. Oy vey – I hate 2 out walks!

  142. It’s time to get Charlie out of there. We don’t need any more damage done.

  143. Just lost my TV signal.

    Thanks, Time-Warner.

  144. Hope it doesn’t get lost in this game, but that was a GREAT outing from Morton… he had to be perfect and he just couldn’t carry it through the 6th… I think some of this walks the past 2 innings were because he knew he had to be too fine.

    If the Bucs got an early run or two, we might’ve gotten Cholly through 6.

    great job, Cholly, you put this team in position to win this game…. it’s on the offense to come through, as it was at the beginning of this day anyway.

    • Absolutely. Far outperformed my expectations.

    • Good, but not great. Sometimes you just gotta focus on your job and not worry about being no-hit. He limits walks and allowing guys on base, great… he gives up walks and one mistake, well, I’ll take the effort and call it a good one.

      • so before the game started, you wouldn’t have taken ‘hold the Cards to 2 runs through 6′? I think 99.9% of this group would have. but ok.

    • I hope your right. If we are to go forward in the playoffs Morton’s outing is very encouraging. Not many teams can get that performance from their 4th starter. He did his job. Hopefully now we can pick him up.

      Unfortunatley the Cards are getting a great start from their 4th starter right now.

    • Before the inning I was ready to say Clint has to pull him if Beltran gets on.

      But that just isn’t realistic.

  145. relax. I dont like this anymore than anyone else, but there is still plenty of time, even with how Wacha is pitching.

    Not the end of the world and Charlie has pitched very well, even with the 2 run homer.

    still sucks. but they’ll get it back.

  146. That’s the third time he has walked a man on four straight pitches. A major league pitcher should not have that much trouble finding the plate. Even if he is trying to be careful pitching to a batter. What’s Jay done this series to be afraid to throw strikes to.

    • 1st time watching a MLB game? It happens.

      • Not even close to first game. Hell I flew from Boca raton, Florida to attend yesterday’s game. I know it happens, but seems to happen more frequently with Morton and A.J. They are pitching well then lose their control, walk lead off hitter and bad things happen.

  147. 3hits, 5 2/3 innings 2 ERs – almost exactly what I expected. Morton did his job, now the offense has to step up.

  148. 6 inning Chuck really did a good job today–no bats

  149. not looking good

  150. Walk + Bloop + Blast = NLCS

    Anything is possible if a person believes……

  151. Detroit underpeforming for yet another season under Leyland. With that offense and pitching staff, this team is 1 game from being eliminated.

    Lukewarm “Balfour” chants from the home crowd……

  152. Seriously, they need to get this guy in the stretch – somehow. get him out of his comfort zone and break his rhythm…….

  153. Come on draw a walk

  154. Let’s see what the bats can do….gut-check time…

  155. Sweet… keep working him fellas.

  156. 4 pitch walk to Martin! YES!!!!!!

  157. 4 pitch walk from “WALK-A”… time to get back in this game, fellas.

    load up the pinch hitters Clint.

  158. Guts and coconuts time…

  159. get ready to “CLEAR THE DECKS

  160. Who is this guy?

  161. Jones a bit anxious… Wacha gets a big time call from the ump on strike 1

  162. Man that first pitch was juicy for Jones… and he just couldn’t pull the trigger.

  163. Sometimes you just gotta hack at the first pitch… because he wasn’t going to get another chance to hit a strike. Jones is too easy to get out with offspeed stuff.

  164. Come on guys!!!! Do something positive this inning.

  165. So use the contact hitter after the power hitter? Great decision.

    • Lots more than that to get upset about. Not as if the contact hitter was going to put the ball in the gap. Plus, you put a pinch hitter in the spot after Martin, and allow Mercer to turn over the lineup next time up.

    • you go for the gametying HR when you are assured of having that in play. If you pinchit Mercer and he hits into DP, opportunity is gone.

  166. so far so good for wacha in the stretch
    what’s with the Cards angling for group gropes in the outfield on popups? they gonna collide one of these times….

  167. Marte whiffs to end the inning. At least the perfect game is gone…..

  168. To think, we could have drafted Wacha instead of Appel.
    I know hindsight is 20/20, but………

  169. I’m telling you…Wacha has it going…just like he did his lat time out….1 hit allowed in his last 14 + innings…

  170. Positive spin:

    This inning, the perfect-o is gone.
    Next inning, the no-no (by More-no?)
    8th inning, shut out gone.
    9th inning, victory (If it doesn’t happen in the 8th)

  171. Marte is not ready for this level of pitching. What does he have 2 hits? Walker is worse, I guess, though he was my pick to break out and hit this kid. Alas, he is too good.

  172. Get ready folks….Wainwright is coming up on Weds…

  173. Wacha is very, very good. Batters need to step out on him. His rhythm is very fast.

  174. Should have known this team wouldn’t be able to put the Cards away…had that problem doing that the last two months of the season…

  175. just sayin glad Justin is in our bullpen for the foreseeable future. Great stuff.

    time for Walker to get the first hit, a lined double down the right field line. make it happen.

  176. Three more shots…Ya never know.

    We’ve got “IT!”

  177. Well last I heard a baseball game is 9 innings

  178. He will probably hit it to the first baseman. That is all he has been doing. Hope I am dead wrong.

  179. Just 75 pitches for Wacha

  180. Time for a hero to step up

  181. My Lord, Holliday is just a train wreck of an outfielder.

  182. Crowd is out of it — 6 outs away from seeing their beloved team no hit in a post season game…..

  183. Just being realistic: this is a no-hitter. And it’s not even going to be close.

    Sorry to write that, but this guy is having a phenomenal day.

  184. I will never complain about Tim Neverette again. I will take him over the guy who is with Stockton.

  185. well crap. i’m starting to think like steelag and florida steeler… lights are dimming on NLCS clinch today…. still gonna watch the game though.

  186. Got my TV signal back.

    Not sure I want it right now.

  187. At this point, let’s just break up the no-no…

  188. Nothing to be embarrassed about for our bats… this is an all-time performance. I mean, this guy is untouchable. I can count two, maybe three hits that were hittable. One was the first pitch to Jones, right after Wacha threw four straight balls. And honestly, can’t think of another one…maybe one to Marte in his first or second at bat, but that’s it.

  189. Sure hope this isn’t the last home game of the season

  190. The big guns (Byrd, Alvarez, & Martin) are coming up for the Bucs in the bottom of the 8th. Wilson is bringing his A game today.

  191. So the Cards go a ll season without a HR at PNC, then have two in the last two games…

  192. Only two hours to play 7 and a 1/2 innings…and that’s with 3 minute breaks after every at bat.

    That’s some kind of great pitching all the way around.

  193. 2014 note: Bucs have TWO potential closers in Wilson and Watson if they choose to be aggressive there…. I for one think Melancon is best as set up guy and I lean toward keeping Grilli in the role but I’d be definitely making plans to turn it over to Justin or Tony…. what a great position to be in.

    • I wouldn’t mind seeing if Justin can be stretched out for the rotation. If he can get his control in order.

      • interesting thought. he seems so very good in the bullpen role… i know he’s been a starter in the past, but bucs seem to have plenty of starter depth, and we all see how important the bullpen is.

  194. Bucs have been huge late in games all year… 8th inning in particular. Let’s get some boys!

  195. OK. If Lunnieville puts out all positive vibes for this half inning it could be magic.

  196. Nor Cal Ryan text you brother to get the crowd back into the game!

  197. 97 fastball
    77 change up
    96 fastball

    All strikes… awesome pitches. Really, nothing to be embarrassed about… not like guys are smoking the ball all over the field. This guy is having an all-time performance.

  198. for all the jokes in the past about downward plane (you know who you are)… Wacha is Exhibit A for downward plane. Did you see Wainright (I think it was him) motion to other Cards in the dugout why the Bucs are swinging and missing so much?

  199. PEDRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  200. Daydro comes thru!

  201. PEDRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  202. 450 feet.

    Ka BOOM!!!!

  203. WAKE UP PNC….PEDRO just went UPWARD PLANE on that downward plane fastball

  204. YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YES

  205. PEDROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  206. PEDRO! TWI-DRO! SAY HEY DRO!

  207. No more no-no, no more shut out. SWEET! LETS GO BUCS!!!!!!!!

  208. Monday, October 8, 1956
    Don Larsen throws a perfect game against the Brooklyn Dodgers
    Brooklyn wins the next game.

    Wednesday, October 6, 2010
    Roy Halladay throws a no-hitter against the Cincinnati Reds
    Philadelphia wins the next game on a 7th inning implosion by Aroldis Chapman and the Reds defense.

  209. oh for a back to back jack…. pnc might lift off its moorings

  210. why matheny doesnt have rosenthal warming up i dont know. the youngster Martinez again??

  211. love tabby here… give him a fastball up and outside please….

  212. Stroke one the other way, Jose….

  213. And the wunderkind gets the HOOK!

  214. Mentioned early in the game that if he’s not careful to Alvarez that he’s going to crush one and man, that was hammered.

  215. There now that’s better :)

  216. Let’s go Bucs!!

  217. Alvarez: first five playoff games of career… a home run in each one. May be a MLB record.

  218. ok i’ll second guess matheny, since doing it to Hurdle is boring…. why not Rosenthal the closer here? big game…

  219. Let’s do it Buccos!!!!

  220. Ok, boys, its up to you, Beat Em Bucs

    Go like 60

  221. just a liner to right tabby…dont get greedy

  222. Harrison thrown out stealing. :(

  223. OUCH! harrison started his slide way too early…….. way too early……

  224. Slid a bit too soon… got stuck in the mud.

  225. What the heck was that slide?
    He looked like Urkel there………….

    and the inning is over :(

    • i think its close if harrison actually slides correctly… he was too anxious, stumbled somewhat and went into a slowwwwwwww slide.

      I kinda liked tabby hitting with a runner on 1st and a big hole to right field open…take your chances… tabby seemed to forget the ‘hit the other way’ thing that at bat though, pull all the way…. ugh.

  226. That sucks….

  227. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  228. Ok, down one, get them out, then throw the top of the order at them.

    This ain’t over

  229. Oh well….

  230. Hate that call.

    Cannot give away outs.

  231. wow, not a fan of that move to hit and run Tabata and Harrison…. I can see the aggressiveness with Mercer up next and wanting to ride the momentum but it really gives the Cards a way to get out of trouble

  232. Stealing there makes sense, but from the sounds of the things, JHay pulled off his Willie Mays Hayes impersonation.

  233. Oh well….who’s starting on Weds?

    • Bucs haven’t announced it; CH said he wouldn’t announce it until he needed to. My gut says AJ. Cole ready with short leash. But who knows? They haven’t announced it yet and maybe they haven’t because Cole is the pick.

  234. At least we didn’t get no-hit today…. :)

  235. ok, let’s call it now… Pittsburgh’s own Neil Walker with a Walk-off to bury the Cards and to send them — and a deserving Wacha — into the offseason.

    Headline in the Trib:

    Walker’s walk-off bests Wacha, Bucs advance to NLCS!!

  236. Don’t think that was a straight steal for Harrison… looked like it could have been a hit and run, but it was a little inside and Tabata couldn’t get an inside-out swing to go the other way. Tough break.

    But Mercer/Marte/Walker/Cutch… I like our chances in the 9th.

  237. I just want to see Cutch up there, one more time today

  238. Ride the momentum of that great play from Alvarez…

  239. Next hero please step up!

  240. Well, it comes down to this to win it at home or go to St. Louis for a do or die game 5……

  241. Drawing it up…cause hey..what the heck…

    Mercer grounds out
    Marte singles
    Walker sac bunt
    Cutch HR

  242. Let’s go bucs

  243. Rosenthal throws gas, doesn’t he?

    Thats our kind of pitcher

    Play for the W Clint

  244. So close on the bunt attempr

  245. Win or lose our boys don’t quit. We can’t quit on them

  246. wow, would YOU pitch to Cutch?

  247. Does Cutch get a fastball to hit?

  248. The winning run is at the plate!

  249. Walker walks a MVP candidate strides to the plate……

  250. We need some IT right here…. IT IT IT IT IT IT

  251. Rosenthal and Wacha both are borderline quick-pitching… Rosie’s rushing… hope he gives Cutch a nice one to crush.

  252. its gonna come down to More-no folks…

  253. Morneau’s redemptive moment approaches…

  254. wow, he gives Cutch a 3-0 strike…wow

  255. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

    :(

  256. We’re going to a game five.

  257. Nice try boys!

  258. Cutch pops – Bucs lose. Wednesday winner take all match up. This is not the route I would have chosen…..

  259. Now Cole goes out and does the same thing at St. Louis… go get’em boys…!

  260. CRAP

    We’ll we will just have to beat them in St Looie

  261. 3-1 count and flies out to 2B?

    Well, it was exactly who you want up in that situation.

    Move on to STL.

  262. Gettin some dinner…later Loonies

  263. NMR…do you give Cutch the green light on 3-0 in that situation?

    • With Morneau up next? Absolutely.

      • Granted I do it with the expectation he uses a Joey Votto-like approach.

      • Think he had it? I think Cutch was taking all the way… shame, too, because that was the pitch I could just see him driving to deep left field.

        That last pitch was on the outer-third…a strike, but not one he could handle too well. Tough game.

        • That presumptive thought process leads to my approach.

          Cutch clearly felt the need to come through, or else I’d give him enough credit to know the 99 on the black is not a hitter’s pitch(3-1 count).

          If you’re gonna try and do it yourself, which Cutch should, then may as well not eliminate the best pitch to do it.

  264. wow, Rosenthal battles back after going 3-0 on Cutch. SHOCKED he gave Cutch hittable pitches after that…. well, that was a great ballgame, no matter how you slice it. 4 total hits. 2 HRs. that’s playoff baseball.

    Cards still alive because Michael Wacha came up huge.

    Bucs need to battle on Wednesday and I’m sure they will.

    • definetly playoff baseball…wish I could’ve watched it.

      Shame they couldn’t come through. Morton pitched his game. One mistake to Holiday, 2 runs should’ve been enough.

      Let’s not forget what a great job the BP did as well.

      Wacha just too much today.

      Hat, tipped.

  265. How long does Clint wait until announcing Gerritt Cole as the Game 5 starter?

  266. Allan James Burnett – come on down.

  267. Dejan left off the first two letters of his special word of the day.

  268. Great playoff game.

  269. Wasted opportunity folks..Wainwright’s got us on Weds….another series just like ’91….unbelievable..)

  270. The difference in this game was simple…
    Morton gave up a walk and then a HR. Wacha gave up a HR then a walk…

  271. Any predictions for game five?

    I think since the Cards have the momentum and Wainwright on the mound, they’ll finish us off.

  272. The way Beltran hits in the post-season, that was not a bad walk. Charlie did his job. Pedro made it more exciting than it looked like it was going to be…..

  273. You just CAN’T win a playoff game with one hit (though it was an HR).
    You just can’t, can’t, can’t!
    The Pirates have had this problem all year….Making heroes out of ordinary pitchers.
    Granted Wacha pitched well, but the Pirates have a way of making pitchers look stupendous.
    That being said…I DON’T think they’re finished.
    I think they can win that game in St. Louis.

    • Ordinary pitchers? Come on, DB, that guy is some kind of special. At least he was today. He was painting the outer edge of the black with 97mph smoke. And then following it up with 77mph changeup.

      Wacha was giving an all-time performance today. Jones had one pitch to hit (first pitch) and Marte may have had one early in the game. Other than that, his pitches had a lot of movement and pinpoint location. He was nearly unhittable.

      The Bucs had three or four pitches to hit and Pedro deposited one of them 450 feet away. No shame in this loss. Guy was outstanding on the mound. Tough to take, sure… but man, Wacha was so sharp.

    • You’re first 2 lines are spot on………since, ya know, they lost.

      • I clearly stated Wacha pitched well.
        I’m just pointing out that the Pirates have made many pitchers look good this year in certain games.
        I’m in no way insinuating that the Pirates were shamed in the loss.
        But….Their inability to get to pitchers has been one of their biggest weaknesses this year.
        Again…I DON’T think they’re finished.

        • You are correct.
          Pirates have made ordinary pitchers look superb all year.
          But none of that matters now!

          Have to win behind Cole Wednesday.

          • I’m also not ready to annoint Wacha as some top notch pitcher at this point in time.
            The guy was barely heard from till he almost no-hitted the Nats a couple of weeks ago.

  274. Gerrit Cole starts Wednesday – official.

  275. Love the Cole decision. Simply put, Cole is the best option to hold the Cards down and give the Bucs a chance to win in STL. And Cole, while a rookie, has more of a ‘come up big in big games’ pedigree.

    This is the passing of the baton… AJ has been the leader of this staff, and from here on, it will be Gerrit. Liriano is awesome but no doubt about it, Cole is the ace of this staff moving into next year.

    Might we see a lineup tinker from Hurdle as well? I liked his answer that ‘in this phase, and in all phases, we have to do the best we can, make the decisions to put us in the best position to win a game’.

    Last point… me thinks AJ will move on, either retire or do what he said he wouldn’t do and accept a contract to pitch elsewhere next season. If so, good for him, he’s been good for the Bucs, but I also think the Bucs are in good shape and can use that $$ to go shopping. Cole/Liriano/Morton are a nice foundation.

    Give the Bucs credit. So far, Bucs management >>>>>>> Nationals management in terms of how to handle a first playoff apperance

  276. Cole is the right call regardless of the result. In hindsight, I like the fact that Cole never came out for the 7th so the Cards had no last crack to solve him.

    Need a few of our players to over-perform from their current under-performances. Marte and Walker would be two good places to start at the top of our order.

    • I think the bigger question for Wednesday is if the PIrates can get to Wainright more than they did in Game 1, and more than they got to Wacha today.
      If they can’t, the starter for them is a moot point.
      You can’t expect guys to pitch shutouts.

  277. Cant see any tweaks except Mercer or Martin maybe hitting second and drop Walker perhaps. AJ is been a great find for the Bucs and will be fine as he moves on or retires. Assuming Cole, Francisco, Morton, Wandy ,if healthy, and maybe Locke will still be very good rotation. AJ, Barmas,Jones, G Sanchez, and Jeff P out all year save approx 22 million. Raises to Cutch, Grilli, Francisco, Tabata, Martin leave about 8 million to sign Pedro, Walker, Morton. So getting a First baseman through a trade and or resigning Byrd will raise the payroll. Pirates have more than enough room to do that if AJ isn’t back.

  278. Losing to the Cards 2-1, while disappointing, is no embarrassment.

  279. I’ll tell you what. No way Brandon Inge or John McDonald get thrown out trying to steal second.
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    :-)

  280. Need to play Tabata in LF Wednesday. 1.099 career OPS against Wainwright.

  281. This is what we have waited 21 years for……………. an elimination game in the playoffs.
    Like Daq said above, the pitcher doesnt matter if we cant get to Wainright.

    This team has overachieved all year.
    We need to do it one more game.

  282. Hurdle’s management kills me. KILLS me. Refuses to move Alvarez or Byrd to cleanup, despite Morneau driving in no runs. Ever. Refuses to warm up anyone after Morton struggled through the fourth, or even after the leadoff four-pitch walk to start the fifth. Refuses to believe Josh Harrison, a borderline major-leaguer, isn’t Rickey Henderson.

    http://adamperrywrites.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/still-one-win-to-go-nlds-game-four-cardinals-2-pirates-1/

    • I didn’t see most of the game – followed the gamecast until the last 2 innings.

      But in the fourth Morton faced 4 batters, and 5 batters in the 5th. And he didn’t allow any runs in either inning. Are you saying that Hurdle should have had someone warming up during those innings or after that innings?

    • Criticizing Hurdle’s management after this game kills me, KILLS me.

      Who were they going to hit in? Charlie gave up 2 runs.

      Kills me.

  283. This is not over by a long truck. I wish they would have gotten the job done at home, alas, that was not meant to be.

    With that said….Hop on Board The Cole Train, Roscoe P. Cole Train!

    CHOO! CHOO!

    • Evening Muppet.
      Hope you R doing well.

      See you in da morning…………. if you arent going to be on here.

    • Brandie…just don’t see how we get to Wainwright on Weds…guy is clutch at home…especially against the Buccos…this was a killer loss today..

    • Brandie, I agree-Cole should start game 5. He is way above the others away from home,
      and he would be ready to go with off days and travel. A.J. disappoints everyone with his lack of command. I believe Cole will get it done. I don’t know why the Bucs couldn’t hit
      the no-name rookie, Wacha-Wacha-Do. They seem to have trouble with rookie pitchers.
      One more chance, Bucs-GO!!!

  284. Stupid Pirates.

    The FO just wanted to make sure Dejan had to get back on a plane.

  285. GREAT GAME!
    Playoff baseball at it finest!
    Pitchers duel all the way!
    Sets up the sudden death game 5!
    It don’t get no better than this!

    Actually ,I HATE do or die deciding games. My old heart is under tooooo much of a strain.
    But….. it is sooo coool to have “real” baseball as the leaves start to fall!!

    Beat em Bucs!

  286. The Pirates beat St. Louis in Busch on Wednesday devastating the so-called “best fans in America.” La Russa demon exorcised. The Pirates then beat Atlanta to win pennant. 1992 demon exorcised. The Pirates then beat Boston to bring home flag number 6. 1903 World Series loss demon exorcised. It’s all good. Hey, it’s never easy being a Pirates fan.

  287. What difference does that make?
    Strange and unusual how some feel this is necessary.

    • Daq,
      I am assuming you are referring to Readings post, if not I am lost.
      If so, Reading , I agree “What difference does that make?”

      “Strange and unusual how some feel this is necessary”
      No offence, but many baseball fanatics really get into some of this old spooky “demon exorcise ism ” type stuff.
      That said … baseball has the tempo ,rhythm and plethora of stats that allows the extreme “navel gazing”.
      Is it strange and unusual ? Nah… Just part of being a Fan- addict! LOL

      • I accidentally posted down here in regards to the “October win tracker” that pointed out the Steelers had zero wins in October in comparison to the Pirates.
        Sorry about that…..

      • Pucknutz,
        I’m just trying to look for a silver lining in an otherwise suck day. Yeah, I hope they beat the hell out of St. Louis on Wednesday. Then, they can beat the hell out if the Dodgers/Braves. Then the Ref Sox, too. Avenge past post-season losses. That’s what ut’s all about.

  288. I’ve heard so much criticism of Hurdle in the last couple hours. About the whole Harrison thing. First of all, it looked like a hit & run to me. And even if it was a straight steal, so what. Did you want him anchored to 1st base until 4 more guys walked ? Or we got 2 hits in a row ? Did you see the game ?

    And the ridiculous charge of leaving Morton in too long ? Like I said, ridiculous.

    • Hurdle has done nothing to deserve criticism.
      Harrison looked like Urkel on that slide. How can that be blamed on Hurdle?
      Charlie pitched a good game……….. he made one mistake with Holliday. Again, how is that Hurdle’s fault.

      Milo, is this criticism coming from media types, or here on the blog.

      Either way, its seems to be a huge head shaker…………

      • Mostly from people I’ve talked to. What a long frustrating day, I’m so glad to finally be home.

        • Hang in there.

        • Whatever happens, win or lose Wednesday, Clint Hurdle and every Pittsburgh Pirate can hold their head high for bringing us, the fans, this wonderful, magical season. I won’t be a basher if they don’t advance any further. I’m appreciative of what this team has accomplished this season. Anyone who chooses to lay blame or put them down isn’t worthy of being a fan.
          :steps off soap box:

          • Chronicles From The Convent…….. featuring Jandy. :)

            • I’m a bit testy because it’s so not cool to elinimate our guys before they even play the game, Hipposter. And to trash this guy or that guy because we lost – BY ONE FRIGGIN RUN – is just ridiculous. I’m just as disappointed as the next fan that we lost, but dammit, it was a close game and it went right down to the last out. Our boys tried. They tried hard.

          • DITTO!!

            I am going into this one as I did the Wild Card. I am holding my head up high regardless of the outcome. This team has revived a DEAD baseball town. I am grateful.

            And I LOVE baseball!!

          • Agreed, Jandy.

            But all of that said, I want to see them play without fear and without any hint of a “hey, we’ve arrived” approach. You only get so many magical seasons before the magic runs out.

            Seize the day. Seize the moment. And then go out and squeeze the life out of those two little red birds sitting atop that bat.

            Not to be melodramatic or anything.

    • My hero. :-)

  289. All this talk of righting wrongs and exercising demons seems foolish to me.
    What happened 3 years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago and 40 years ago is the past.

    All that matters at this point is who does the most with the 27 outs they are given on Wednesday.
    I don’t care about anything else other than that.

    We all can make predictions and prognostications,
    but last time I checked no one on here has access to a 1982 DeLorean DMC-12.

    Past history tells us that with Wainwright pitching and home-filed advantage, the Cardinals will have the upper hand.
    Past history is just that, past history.

    THIS is why they play the game.
    Because the ending has yet to be scripted.

    One way or another, history will be made beginning at 5:07pm on Wednesday.
    27 outs to work with, who will be the hero this time?

  290. Wonder if the Red Sox blogs are complaining about decision to keep Clay Bucholz in the game.

    Really like Mattingly trotting out Clayton Kershaw tonight for his first time ever start on three days rest. Dodgers have to end this tonight and not have to fly back east for a decisive game. But, even if they have to, because of Kershaw pitching tonight, they will have Greinke on full rest in the event of a loss tonight.

    Kershaw is one of my favorite pitchers to watch. Should be interesting.

  291. I’m guessing if the Dodgers win tonight they’ll move the Buccos to 8:00.

  292. Cards are 7-1 in elimination games….Wainwright on the mound….uggghhh

  293. This is why the Cardinals are the Cardinals….

  294. Since everyone on here seems to be keen on past history tonight, I offer you this little nugget from the not-so-distant past…..

    October 12, 2012
    Game 5 NLDS
    Cardinals vs. Nationals

    Adam Wainwright

    2.1 Innings Pitched
    7 Hits
    6 Runs
    6 Earned Runs
    0 Walks
    5 K’s
    3 Home-Runs Allowed
    7.88 ERA

    • Again…that was against the Nats…they may have better history against him. All I can do is go by what the Buccos have done and did against him in Game 1….

  295. He CAN be beat…

    • I’ve never said he can’t…just not sure he will be. That’s all I have said….just my opinion. I am not trying to start any wars or anything of the sort…..

      • With Wainwright pitching and home-field advantage the Cardinals SHOULD win.
        Doesn’t mean they will.

        Pedro SHOULD have made an out in the 8th inning of Game 3.
        Instead he got us the lead.

        Funny things happen in the playoffs.

        • ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ;)