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On location: Cardinals 6, Pirates 1, NLDS Game 5

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

ST. LOUIS – Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates vs. St. Louis Cardinals, National League Division Series Game 5

Series: 2-2

Starters: RHP Gerrit Cole vs. RHP Adam Wainwright

Time: 8:07 p.m.

Site: Busch Stadium

TV, radio: TBS (national), 93.7 The Fan, ESPN Radio 970

Here’s the official live box score.


  1. Starling Marte, LF
  2. Neil Walker, 2B
  3. Andrew McCutchen, CF
  4. Justin Morneau, 1B
  5. Marlon Byrd, RF
  6. Pedro Alvarez, 3B
  7. Russell Martin, C
  8. Clint Barmes, SS
  9. Cole, P


  1. Matt Carpenter, 2B
  2. Carlos Beltran, RF
  3. Matt Holliday, LF
  4. Matt Adams, 1B
  5. Yadier Molina, C
  6. Jon Jay, CF
  7. David Freese, 3B
  8. Pete Kozma, SS
  9. Wainwright, P

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates pageRob Biertempfel, Travis Sawchik, Karen Price and I are on the scene.

Here again is the Tuesday column on why the Pirates will win today.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and more, including his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the top four columnists in the country -- highest circulation category -- by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the top three columnists in the country by the National Headliners Awards. For 2013, he was named top columnist in the state by the Keystone Awards and second-place by the Pennsylvania AP Managing Editors.


  1. Let’s go Bucs!

  2. Need to change the site, DK. Just a nit.

  3. Bizrow says:

    October 9, 2013 at 12:29 pm

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    · 10/8/2013 10:17 PM

    I have no doubt that today, the PBC is going to win tonight.

    Karma, hidden vigorish, all of you and the guys that wear black and gold

    I am so proud of this club
    I am so happy I expect rather than hope

    Plus Drew probably bet his boss something that no lunatic deserves

    The best, no matter what, is yet to come

    Beat Em Bucs

  4. Great night for the Bucs is on the way. You can do it Bucs!

    • I’m disappointed that Hurdle didn’t change the lineup around a bit. No chance for Bucs if
      that is his lineup for tonight’s game. Too many auto outs at top of batting order and the
      bottom has some auto outs,too. Cards win 4-0. SORRY.

  5. Sorry Bucco fans, it ends tonight. Go Cards

  6. ♪♫ TAKE FIVE!! ♪♫

  7. If this is indeed the final game of this season, it has been a pleasure spending the last 6 months with fine lunatics.
    I am humbled each day by how many of you show up and play this silly little game.
    Your crazy little comments and unit wagers crack me up.
    From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU ALL!!


    The Window will continue throughout the duration of the playoffs.
    September and October will be combined and all winners will be announced at the conclusion of the playoffs.


    Makes my job a helluva lot easier when I don’t have to hunt to find everyone’s “wagers”

    Max “wager” is 100 units on any single line.
    All “wagers” must be in multiples of 5 units.
    Play as few or as many lines as you’d like.
    As always, this is for fun and entertainment purposes.


    Tonight’s Pick ‘Em Line
    What Will the Pirates Do in Tonight’s Game?
    Win (EVEN ODDS)
    Lose (EVEN ODDS)

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    Anything is possible if a person believes
    Mark 9:23


    P.S. – bman, please contact me via email at BUCCOOVERUNDER at GMAIL dot COM

  8. Why Barmes again? Let me guess he hits like .300 against wainright right?

    I have been an advocate of Mercer when Cole and Frankie pitch and Barmes when Morton and AJ pitch. The sinker ballers need the defense. the powere pitchers not so much.

    • I would rather have Barmes behind Frankie and Morton in your scenario. AJ/Cole are more of the flyball guys, whereas Morton and Frankie are the ground ball guys.

      I honestly don’t have a problem with Barmes starting. Usually solid.

      If this team has to rely on Mercer’s offensive production to win tonight, they’re in trouble.

      • agreed, especially the last point.

      • “If this team has to rely on Mercer’s offensive production to win tonight, they’re in trouble.”

        Possibly true, but 1 run in this game could be huge. Every hit and baserunner is important. And apparently I’m in the minority, but I don’t think Barmes’ D at this point is that much better than Mercer’s. But a do or die game is the ultimate opportunity for Hurdle’s preference for vets vs. newbies.

        • I hear you, sticky. I admit that I have gone back and forth all year on this. I do trust Barmes’ glove more than Jordy’s, but I don’t automatically assume that preventing a run is more important than adding a run.

          One guy hits better. One guy fields better. I think it is pretty much a push. But, that’s why Clint gets paid. He usually gets it right.

          On Marte vs. Tabata, I get that Tabata may hit better right now but that is far from a certain thing. Marte in LF is the best in the business and is a big upgrade over Tabata.

          BTW, I would love to see the Bucs find a way to start spraying balls into LC and RC again tonight. That was so much fun on Friday, listening to Kaat and Costas talk about how the “ball was jumping.” Anything to avoid admitting that the Cards OF has abysmal range.

          • Boy Jim, sure seems like you just pointed out two similar situations, yet feel the left fielder stays because of defense.

            Has Marte saved an out, let alone a run, in five playoff games?

            • I recall a few catches, especially in the last game, that I thought it was trouble and was relieved to see Marte there, but regardless the FIRST RUN he saves will be critically important, and there can be no doubt his defense is superior to Tabata.

            • Well, I said that Tabata may hit better now. May. He is not a better hitter than Marte normally. Marte hits for more XBH, and can steal a base. So, I don’t think I’m saying defense alone keeps Marte in my lineup.

              I don’t know that Marte has saved any runs so far in this series, but are you saying he is not a better defensive option than Tabata? He has better range, a better arm. I will say that Tabata is better than Holliday in LF. Holliday sometimes looks like he’s juggling chainsaws when he is pursuing a flyball.

              If I were managing tonight, I would have started Marte and Mercer. I thought it was subtle, but important, in Cole’s start on Friday that the Cards chose to walk Mercer and pitch to Cole. Cole singled up the middle. Teams don’t walk Barmes to get to Cole, as far as I can tell. Having him in the lineup got the Bucs a run.

              • He’s clearly better defensively than Tabata, but he’s also clearly worse right now at the plate. Marte K’d in 38% of his appearances coming into the playoffs, and hasn’t looked any better since.

                Just seemed interesting that you’d choose superior defense in left field, the less demanding position, and not at shortstop.

              • I can’t defend Marte’s hitting of late – other than the bomb in Game 2. But, I still think he has the talent to snap out quickly. That, coupled with his superior defense and running is what sways me to Marte. So, I’m not thinking it is just about defense.

              • Hope so, Jim. Certainly do.

                Just can’t imagine a tougher matchup for Marte than a righty with plus command and one of the best breaking balls in the league.

                All the point I was trying to make was that left field doesn’t provide as many opportunities to allow superior defense to overcome sub-par offense, as this series has shown.

              • And a groundball staff, like the Bucs, which doesn’t allow as many flyballs. Good point.

        • This offense needs any help it can get, and Mercer’s bat is unquestionably an improvement.

        • You (we) may be in the minority, but we are correct.

          On the very, very slim chance a defensive play by Barmes will affect the outcome of this game in our favor, is to presume that Mercer wouldn’t or couldn’t make that same play. Poor logic

          However we DO IN FACT know that 75 points better in batting average is a more tangible and REAL difference, that every at bat has that much greater a chance for success. A fact undisputable

          Sadly most do not see it that way

    • As a matter of fact, Barmes is a career .333 hitter against Wainwright with an OPS of 1.010 in 21 at-bats.

  9. 1960. “Pirates dont belong here”.
    1971. ” Birds in 3″.
    1979. “Family This”.

    All Pirate underdog teams.
    All the “experts” said the Pirates were wasting their time showing up for the WS.

    Well, the Bucs won them all, didnt they?
    Why not now? When is now?
    NOW IS NOW !!

    See yinz in the WINNING game thread.
    Unless DK jinxes us with this birthday stuff………… ;)

  10. Exactly the right lineup!!

    Game #5 projects to be low scoring. Put your best defensive lineup on the field. CAN’T CAN’T CAN’T afford giving up a 4-out inning.

    Dance wid the one dat brung ya!!!

    • I agree. Though I was certain the order would shift around.

      No problem with Barmes there.

      • In monitoring Cardinal discussions, I find no one suggesting Carpenter be dropped from the leadoff spot despite being 1 – 17.

        • He has shown over the course of the year that he can hit. Just look at his average.

          I was thinking more of a change between Pedro, Byrd, and/or More-no.

          Nothing drastic.

        • And who are their other options, Groat? Thought so.

          The Pirates, on the other hand, benched a guy with a .351 OBP over the last month of the season.

          • I think Colton Wong hit about .150. Does that count as other options?

            Now, watch that guy get a bit hit tonight. :-(

            • Pete Friggin’ Kozma. :)

              Hey, I’m glad. Hopefully that buys him another regular season as the worst full time shortstop in the Majors.

              • He was talking big about tonight. I still say he was making his comments over the shoulder of
                Holliday or Beltran, though.

    • Barmes and Marte were not no-brainers.

      Hope it works out.

      • Both better defensively. I do hope that Marte can control himself a little better at the plate.

        Honestly, a pitcher goes after him on the first pitch, then junks him the rest of the AB. Usually wins that battle. Unless they hang one……..

        Here’s to hanging curveballs tonight from Wainwright.

        • I read on twitter today that the batting average for bunts with no one on base is extremely high in MLB – something lilke .450. The element of surprise sometimes, beating the extreme shifts, etc. However you slice it, if you lay one down looking for a hit it often works if you can keep it in fair territory.

          Marte apparently had a .625 avg. when bunting with the bases empty on bunts put in play. So, that doesn’t take into account all the times he bunted foul and then went back to swinging away. But, still …. you gotta try it once. If he could drop one down and beat it out on Freese to start the game that would be sweet.

          • I think Marte has seemed to have tried it every AB. At least show it.

            There’s no way the Cards don’t expect that from him. Dude can fly…why shouldn’t he try?

            but it might play into their hand. At least he’ll be putting the ball in play. Never an easy play for a 3B to make, especially with his speed.

            • Yeah, Marte’s failed to even square up bunts this series.

              Freese also has been playing him just about in line with the mound, it seems.

              • I haven’t noticed that.

              • The Freese positioning?

              • Yes. I guess I haven’t been watching Freese that close. Not saying he isn’t doing it. Just saying I haven’t picked up on it.

              • I gotcha buddy.

                I’m thinking specifically of the at-bat where Marte bounced the first pitch after Kelly walked the pitcher (ugh) and Freese was under it immediately. With two outs. Thought for sure it was an infield single off the bat, given Marte’s speed out of the box.

              • Hard to see the defensive positioning, but I guarantee he’s on the grass.

  11. I had a feeling Cole hasn’t once been SHELLED. Went back and looked at his 19 starts: Only ONE game when he gave up as many as 4 runs, the Miami game down there that Sunday afternoon. Based on that fact alone (and there would be so many more reasons), the ball rightfully goes to him tonight. He does indeed give us our best chance to win.

    And that being said, I’m sure The Kid is having butterflies like nobody’s business!

    Interesting to think back to spring training, and his disappointment at not going north with us, then his so-so plus season at Indy, then coming up before he was really ready (according to the Bucs). From all that to Big Boy Pants – and now THE biggest game of the year… quite the strides he has made!

  12. Ya know, during this playoff period there has been a lot of discussion about the broadcasting.

    It obviously has not been that good, especially on TBS.

    A couple of names that I would like to throw out there for the carriers to try and pick up during these times for next season and beyond.

    1. Vin Scully, no brainer
    2. Duane Kuiper
    3. Mike Krukow
    4. Dick Enberg (does the Padres)
    5. Gary Thorne (always liked him on ESPN)
    6. Chip Carey (Harry Carey III)

    That’s all I can think of. Please, don’t add Jon Miller to my list. I get to hear him with the Giants and he’s just not as good as everyone makes him out to be. Though he is better than what is currently on the ballot.

    • I’m with you on Jon Miller. I kinda like his voice, but it’s more the voice of someone’s father in a library study, like Ward Cleaver or somebody like that. I like Dick Stockton and was glad they had him on Sunday. And I like Bob Brenly and was glad to hear him some the other day, for our broadcast. I’m one of the odd ones that doesn’t like Scully. All the stories get to be too much for me. Believe it or not, if it’s just a Dodgers’ broadcast on our package, we turn him down and TAKE the out of synch picture with our guys on radio.

      • If Fox has the WS, it would be Joe Buck again.

        These St. Louis guys are all over the MLB broadcasts – Joe Buck, Tim McCarver, Jim Kaat, Bob Costas. I’m sure I even left some out. They’ve infiltrated every network. Enough already.

    • Greg Brown
      Bob Walk
      Tim Neverett
      Steve Blass

      In no particular order. :-)

    • TBS tried Chip and he was given the boot because he sucked royally on non-Braves games. I agree that TBS should just go with an all-star team of local broadcasters whose teams are already out of it. Would be much much better than having to endure Ernie Johnson.

      I’d even rather have John Sterling and Susan Waldmyn for sheer entertainment value than Ernie Johnson.

  13. Loonies, gotta get this work done…hopefully see you here this evening…

    Ride the Cole Train!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. Don’t take this wrong, I’m not giving up, but if this is the end of the ride, it has been a fantastic one. I never expected this year to be so great, and it has far surpassed my expectations. I’ve enjoyed every moment logging on first thing in the morning, reading Dejan’s column, and reading all that the passionate Pirate Lunatics had to say. Thanks to all for such a fun summer, let’s hope we have more fun ahead of us.

  15. Marte vs Wainwright 1/6, 0XBH
    Tabata 6/16 for .375 BA, 1T, 1HR, 3RBI, 412 OBA, 688 SLG, 1.099 OPS

    Sure hope Marte plays good defense, tonight!

    • Yep, we said that this morning. .375 is tempting. That’s why I said if Clint chose Tabata, even though that would not be my call, I would get it.

  16. I hope AJ doesn’t upset the team chemistry tonight.

  17. So, who wins Worst Person of the Week…Kevin Towers for doing his best Macho Man Randy Savage impersonation or the entire Braves roster for refusing to catch Chipper Jones first pitch after he picked the Dodgers to advance?

  18. I’m not ridiculing anyone for having these thoughts because I completely understand them but:

    I wonder if we’ll see any of these “its been a great season, I’m just enjoying the ride no matter what happens” posts next spring with the Penguins.

    Dan Bylsma would get a chuckle from these posts, I bet. Dude has one great season after another yet calls for him being fired resonate throughout the postseason.

  19. Anybody who thinks Cole is the wrong choice over AJ, please speak up now, or STFU later, no matter what happens. ;-)

    So far, only Stuart has objected.

    • Not me. No matter what happens I feel that Hurdle made the right decision.

    • I’ll go on record. I think AJ should start. This franchise is where it is because of his acquisition. His contribution over the past two years has been integral to its success. That alone doesn’t warrant him starting but I go with the veteran in this situation, unless internal scouting is telling you something else.

      Hope I’m wrong and I’ll sit the f down. I was certainly wrong about Wacha Wacha Do’s nerves.

      • I don’t have a single concrete reason for believing this, but I agree with you.

        Just seems like the perfect moment he’s been waiting for to sail off into the sunset.

        • Joe Maddon would have started Cole. ;-)

          • Haha, as he should. Fully admitting I have no logic dictating this decision (hold the jokes :) ).

            Even a nerd like me is enough of a fan to play his favorite pitcher when the season is on the line.

            • I’m actually a little surprised Hurdle did this. AJ is the “safe choice.” I think it may be an example of what DK was referring to in his “Nutting column.”

              Go for it.

              • A little, maybe.

                But don’t forget his snippy little “it’s on me” retort to Dejan after Game 1.

                Sounded to me like he was done taking one on the chin for his veteran starter.

      • You guys are saying it up front, and I appreciate that. I’m in the opposite camp. The recent evidence tells me Cole has turned a corner, and that you have to go with that power stuff.

        I hope the majority is right on this one, and that AJ gets to open the LA series.

    • Thanks, guys. Fair enough.

      I’m with Cole because of the venue. Hard to ignore AJ’s troubles there. And I think he sealed his fate when he sounded like after the first game he had wilted under the pressure. Cole seems to have nerves of steel. But we’ll see.

      Either way, great season.

      • I’m with you, Arriba. And I’m a firm believer that a decision is not suddenly wrong because it didn’t work out. Sometimes things just don’t work out.

        I feel like Clint has tough decisions in LF and SS tonight, as well as lineup order decisions. They are killer decisions for anyone, and he will likely get some of them wrong and some of them right – hopefully, more right than wrong. But, either way, I’m not going to question him.

    • Nope. I called for this after game 2.

  20. Those Braves are a mess.

  21. Game’s changed. Years ago you’d never dream of turning a big game over to a kid – now they are prepared mentally and physically to handle it.

  22. Girardi just resigned with the Yankees for 4 more years.

  23. What are some thoughts about how Joe Maddon managed last night. Interesting that he was pulling pitchers even though the game was scoreless, and I think in two consecutive games he gave up the DH for strategy.

    Heard on sports talk (Gottleib, I think), he was managing like some us manage video games. I’ve done it before in strat-o-matic and “The Show,” pulling my starters and managing the staff to get to the 8 and 9 innings guys.

    • I thought Joe Maddon did exactly what he needed to do. It was crazy, but it worked yesterday for him. I wouldn’t expect it to work everytime though.

      • I agree. I thought he did exacty what he needed to do.

        Who knew his set up guy would throw a wild pitch?

        Shame how they lost. Like Joe Madden as a manager. A lot.

    • Great question, Osh. I thought he was blowing through that staff so fast that his team was going to be toast for Game 5 and the next series, regardless. I get that the season was on the line, but what good is it to win that one game and prolong the season if it means you have nothing left for a Game 5 and 2 more series’ to follow? I don’t think pitchers snap back so quickly at this time of year, and his team might have had some big issues going forward.

      I love Strat-o-matic, btw. Played it a lot as a kid, then reintroduced my son to it on a whim last year and he loves it.

      • My wife and I have a board game night once a week. Once in a while, I will choose Strat-o-Matic. She knows nothing about baseball. I have never lost to her. Then again, I’ve never beaten her at Scrabble and my record against her in trivial pursuit is Astroesque.

        • So, when she bats Clint Barmes 4th, you just let her do it?

          • Hahaha. Yep. I think her lineups are ofter based on whether she likes the guy’s name or not.

            I sort have to co-manage for her at times. If they ever make Strat-o-Matic ballet, I’m in trouble.

        • I remember playing Strat-O-Matic with my brother on the way to games. We used to have at least 1.5 hours to kill.

          In the top of the 9th, he had bases loaded and two outs with Ron LeFlore up. Ron LeFlore proceded to hit a Grand Slam because of a bump in I-90 (We were going to an Indian game).

          Ron LeFlore’s home run space is barely bigger that the needle. He never lets me live it down!!

    • Once again showed he’s the best manager in baseball.

      Think the Cards would’ve scored 9 runs in Game 1 if Hurdle were even half as aggressive?

      Think Maddon would’ve blinked an eye at removing Morton from Game 4 before his third time through the heart of the order?

      • Joe Maddon. Something else we agree on.

      • But, I also sat in PNC on Sunday thinking Liriano was out of gas and starting to get rocked far before Clint did. I wanted him out before the end of the 5th, and Clint stuck with him through the 6th. He actually deserved to leave with a shutout if not for the botched caught stealing call by the 3b ump that led to Beltran’s 2 run single. So, it can work both ways.

        I do generally like Joe Madden, though.

    • I think Joe Maddon gets a little too caught up in “being Joe Maddon” sometimes. He’s an incredible manager, and by all accounts, a great guy. I just think he’s a little too creative at times.

      That being said, he’s been manager of the year before and I’m just a two time little league all star (’77 and ’78). Maybe he does know a little more about the game than I.


  24. It’s Marte’s birthday today, too.

    Time for a Marte PARTAY!!

  25. After much thought, I have decided on my adult beverage du jour on this historic evening. It is a robust wine (red blend from Hunt Country Vineyard in the Finger Lakes) called “Alchemy.”

    ALCHEMY: 1. A process by which paradoxical results are achieved or incompatible elements combined with no obvious rational explanation.

    2. Philosophy focused on the attempt to change base metals into gold, investigating the preparation of the “elixir of longevity.”

    3. The causing of any sort of mysterious sudden transmutation.

    4. An unexplainable transmutation; the creation of something special out of a common material.

    5. The process of changing a base form into something more perfect or something more viable that can be used for noble purposes. Philosophically, alchemy is known for the conversion of our physical essence into that of a higher more spiritual state.

    CHEMISTRY…MAGIC…BUCCOS defined!! The PERFECT elixir!!

    CHEERS!! :D

  26. October 12, 2012
    Game 5 NLDS
    Cardinals vs. Nationals

    Adam Wainwright

    2.1 Innings Pitched
    7 Hits
    6 Runs
    6 Earned Runs
    0 Walks
    5 K’s
    3 Home-Runs Allowed
    7.88 ERA

  27. T-Minus 2 hours! Headin’ out for a VICTORY walk down the ol’ county road and back!

  28. Found this on youtube for the special day:

  29. Little research. So much is being made at the Pirates swinging & missing at Wainwright’s curve in Game 1. But that’s kinda like criticizing a football team’s 3rd down conversion rate without looking at what really matters, what happened on 1st down & were they in long yardage situations.

    Of Adam Wainwright’s 9 strikeouts – 6 of them were swing & miss curve balls. But more importantly in those 9 AB’s, he started Pirates hitters with a fastball 8 times. And in 7 of those, the count started out 0-1. And they looked at 6 of those fastball strikes.

    When you get to 2 strikes you’re supposed to protect, so swinging & missing at a pitcher’s pitch can be expected. But taking first pitch fastballs for strikes is what the real problem is.

    I heard a radio interview with Art Howe over the summer where he explained his A’s teams failures in the playoffs. He said their strategy of working pitchers deep in counts to drive up their pitch counts worked great in the regular season because of the amount of 3,4 & 5 starters you see. But it killed them in the playoffs because 1 & 2 starters don’t get behind in counts & you’re left in the hole swinging at pitches you can’t handle. I really think that applies here.

    • Milo,

      I think it absolutely applies here. Great insight from Howe. Its exactly how I explained Marte’s issues up above there.

      Pedro finds himself in that situation far too often as well. When he gets hot, he’s usually not taking pitches.

      The Pirates need to jump on his 1st pitch fastballs. They are obviously hit very well against fastball pitching.

      They get to him early, they won’t have to worry about getting his pitch count up.

      Good research man, enjoyed it.

    • For a good hitting team, I would agree with you.

      But all fastballs are not created equal. Mr. Wacha showed us what these hitters can do against one spotted on the corner, as I believe most of Wainwright’s usually are.

      • It’s the opposite actually. Good hitters don’t care if they have a strike on them, great hitters can have 2. I want these guys hacking at the first fastball they like. Problem with the Pirates is that they don’t recognize pitches well. OK, who am I kidding, they don’t recognize pitches at all. If Wainwright adjusts by throwing off speed early in the count, the aggressive approach will kill them too.

        • All I’m saying is that given this teams inability to hit to all fields, all I think you’re doing is trading weak contact for strikeouts.

          Not disagreeing with anything you wrote, just don’t see Wainwright serving up first pitch fastballs that these guys can handle.

      • Hopefully most pitchers fastballs are on the corners. Otherwise it’s usually bombs away….

  30. “Red sky at morning, sailors take warning.
    Red sky at night, sailors’ DELIGHT!”

    Got RED SKY!

    Sail on, BUCCOS!!

  31. Dusty wants to manage the Nats.

    Heck yea, give him another team to ruin.

  32. feelin good about tonight! maybe it was the video…..

  33. Here’s to sweet, hard earned redemption. May the Pirates not squander it.

    Have a wonderful game, Gerritt Cole.

  34. 30 minutes everyone!


  35. Prediction time! What will be the final score?

    I’ll say 5-3 Cardinals.

    I have to give it to them as the two teams are so evenly matched that I got to give it to the home team.

  36. Hello Loonies – There are 252 posts – is there something special going on this evening? :)

  37. I wonder how many times TBS’ pregame show has used the word “ambushed”.

    Apparently Cole “ambushed” the Cards last time and there’s no way the Cards will allow that to happen again.

  38. Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but the Pirates have won 9 of their last 11 road games: 3-0 at Texas, 2-1 at Cubs, 3-0 at Reds, 1-1 at Cardinals (Division Series).

    Lets Go Bucs.

  39. I just got home (it’s almost 1:00am here in England) and haven’t had a chance to read the posts above. All I can say is: Try to have faith, breathe deeply when dangers appear, trust in the dedication, talent (latent or otherwise) and spirit of our guys on and off the field, and be grateful, as I am, win or lose, for one of the great seasons of baseball for our beloved Pirates.

    “A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” Winston Churchill

  40. Scottrade Center can’t be more than, what, 6 blocks from Busch Stadium. Traffic and parking must be a mess in St. Louis right now.

  41. I want to hide under a cover and scream……

    We are here…. game 5

  42. Folks – This is October 9th and our Pittsburgh Pirates are in Game 5 of the Playoffs! This is pretty awesome!

  43. Lets Go Bucs!!!

  44. I wonder how Card fans feel that Bill Cowher is the color commentator. Seems to be lopsided in our favor.

  45. The team that’s scored 1st has won all 4 games.

  46. Lol Eric! Peek out at the corner ;)

  47. Game time, and almost 300 posts already!

    I dont see all the fuss……………. ;)

  48. Good Evening all. Wishing the Buccos and all of you the best.

  49. After all the bs on pre game, the clear choice was the right one: Pirates.

  50. Here we go…..

  51. Good evening fellow lunatics. My heart is beating a little faster than normal already. I hope this isn’t a nail biter, may be the last game I see if it is. :O

  52. I’m wearing the same outfit I did the day we beat the Reds-After washing them of course.

  53. Just got home. Glad I made it in time to watch the game.

    I am curious as to what AJs warm up routine is though.

  54. Wimpy crowd with their white hankies!

  55. Love the We are Family video. Let’s go Bucs!!!!!!!

  56. AJ said he couldnt pitch today?

    That’s not much of a team attitude if true!

  57. Marte got 2 fastballs to hit & it was 0-2. Here we go.

  58. Ok Buccos…let’s not wait until the 8th inning to get a hit tonight. ;)

  59. Marte had two pitches dead red to hit before being rung up, need to get to Wainwright early.

  60. Methinks the Pirates are doing some serious damage control about AJ’s tantrum about not starting.

    His routine isn’t compatible for coming into relief ? Huh ?

  61. Walker draws the walk – duck on the pond……

  62. We got a base runner!

  63. Walker is on. Let’s keep making him throw pitches.

  64. Well there goes the perfect game…

  65. So far no command of curveball for Wainwright, would be huge if it takes him a little while to find that pitch.

  66. Nice job Neil…..come on Cutch….

  67. Wainright’s command not as good tonight as in game 1.

    • Have to get to good pitchers early…especially when they are off….could be performance anxiety by Wainwright….doesn’t want to repeat last year’s game 5 performancce….

  68. Come on morneau

  69. One LOB as we head to the bottom of the 1st.

  70. Time to hang one of those babies.

    The curve ball giveth….the curve ball taketh away.

  71. 1 pitch at a time….keep telling myself that.

    Wainwright looks hittable though.

    Curve ball is sporatic. 2 good ones, got the K on both. Others all over.

    • not sure i’d call the curve to cutch a ‘good curve’ Cutch was thinking fastball I think and was way ahead of the pitch… but otherwise, that curve hung and ended up mid thigh and over the plate… that can’t be where wainwright wants that pitch.

      • I thought it had a huge bend to it, landed outer half not right down the middle.

        Definitely looking fastball though.

  72. I am still holding onto hope of that first really big hit from Morneau, it did not happen there.

  73. Not sure what the fuss is about AJ and relief… he is the LAST pitcher I’d want in the game in a relief role… we have a full bullpen… Gomez if we need early relief (hope not) and all the relievers are in play. If Cole gets past the 4th inning, we can probably even bypass Mazarro and Gomez if we so chose.

  74. Cutch missed that curve by a foot.

    Morneau swings at first pitch and weakly ground out to SS…. man was I dead wrong about him being a good option. Jones stunk the joint out but it sure would be nice to have a 1B that drives the ball.

  75. It is gonna be tough with only 4-5 in lineup with any hits. And one of those is our pitcher.

  76. They should have sacrificed a live chicken…..

  77. I want our announcers. I can’t take Brenley. Blech!

  78. good Cole to settle down after the ump squeezed the first two pitches on him…. and let it be noted that Alvarez was positioned exactly right for the grounder by Carpenter… which was aimed at the hole b/w ss and 3b.

  79. Pitch recognition, pitch recognition, pitch recognition….

  80. At least we know this, Matt Carpenter sucks.

  81. See?? Barmes is in there for his D! ;)

  82. I wonder, could someone try to bunt the ball up the first base line…. force Adams to play some D.

    • Or move?

    • adams actually isn’t a bad fielder and surprisingly fleet-footed….i think the Cards trained in the minors by throwing raw meat at him.

      but yes, i’d like to see marte push one b/w pitcher and 1B rather than down the 3B line.

  83. nice inning for the cole train. he is smoking that radar gun.

  84. Nice 1,2,3 inning for Cole. Onto the 2nd……

  85. Calm, Cool and Collected, the Cole train hitting 98-100 and disposes Cards quickly in first very positive sign.

  86. Way to go Baby Boy.

  87. It’s weird watching game 5 while it’s beginning to get dark outside…for a few games I thought there was some Blue Law about the Buccos and Cards playing a night game….

  88. Our productive part of the order is up this inning, lets hope they stay productive…..

  89. By the way, they should just pitch around Alvarez. Every time.

  90. All 3 judges score the first inning to the Pirates, slightly. Got to get their feet underneath them, keep Cards from jumping out front.

  91. Byrd!


  93. Byrd with a lead off single. No, no-no in the works tonight…..

  94. And that ass-wipe Brenley is proven wrong again…

  95. That’ll break up the no hitter!

  96. Let’s draw first blood Buccos…..

  97. Obviously Brenly is confused.

  98. Sit CURVE TORO and hit it to Columbia

  99. Pedro bomb wanted.

  100. I don’t see Pedro getting anything but off speed.

    1st pitch might’ve been a cutter

  101. Byrd is the Wyrd…….

  102. damn it… carpenter in right spot this time (matheny learned something i guess)…

  103. Tough break as Albarez hit that ball on a line.

  104. Byrd forgot to check where his fielders were. Still not sure if he could’ve got back after a secondary lead.

  105. So far Bucs approaches way way better tonight than vs Wacha… we are gonna break through tonight, just hold on…

  106. :(

  107. At least we are hitting Wainwright tonight.

  108. That was quick. Onto the bottom of the second……

  109. Good sign early though….making hard contact….

  110. All those against the modern shifts…. Cards didn’t in game 3, got burned. did tonight, saved a 1st and 3rd no out situation.

  111. Two phrases quite often used in hunting apply weel for tonight’s game:

    “Red is DEAD” and “If it flies, it dies”

  112. Cole loves these situations and games….elimination game vs TCU in the CWS…6 innings, 13 K’s and 1 hit I believe…..

  113. First base runner for the Cards. A dreaded 2 out walk……

  114. Come on Cole Train….shut it down….

  115. crap!

  116. 2-0 Bad guys……

  117. Oooof


  119. Good night all.

  120. Mr. October.


  121. 2 out walk comes back to bite Cole…… I hate those things!

  122. Does it seem 2 out walks just kill us?

  123. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  124. gotta get one back this inning.

  125. This is the 2013 Pirates. Every time you think they’re down and out, they defy expectations. Let’s see if they can do it again.

  126. Can’t do that against Wainwright….

  127. It ain’t over! Let’s go boys!

  128. well, we need to answer …. 2 runs will not be the difference in this game. GET THE BATS GOING,

  129. Ug..

    Not over yet. I think the Bucco bats get to Wainwright 2nd time around.

  130. It’s not the end of the world. The Bucs are capable of hitting Wainwright just as well.

  131. Trying to stay positive here…..

  132. Just checking to see if anyone has posted “Clint should realize that Cole doesn’t have it tonight an should have Pitcher X warming up already.”


  133. My friends who are Rangers fans just had nightmare flashbacks to 2011 and Freese….

  134. as someone mentioned earlier, team that has scored first has won all 4 games this series

  135. cole knew that was strike three…he is a pitcher himself…

  136. Thank you Professor Stockton we all know how smart you are with letting us know how bad the Pirates are at hitting curveballs. I HATE THE ANNOUNCERS.

  137. So, Mr. Attitude–AJ Burnett did not take the news well and is not available tonight?? Send his a_ _ out of town on the first available transportation.

    • AJ is in the dugout, mainly talking to Locke, his altar boy. I could NOT believe the Tweet his wife put on the Net the other day when her husband was shelled. She used the F word in the clear.

    • Do you think AJ told Clint that if he is not starting tonight then he’s not pitching at all?

  138. worse out for me…a pop fly foul ball…

  139. Bunting with 2 outs isn’t a bad thing….

    All is well….

  140. Does Marte ever actually try to bunt on first pitch, or is that just a nervous twitch?

  141. Wainwright just turned it up another notch folks….not good…

  142. enough with marte and walker….tabata and mercer please

  143. “The fans on Federal Street are on tv ”

    Uh…we know. We’re watching tv

  144. NICE!

  145. Way to go Marte!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  146. MARTE!!!!!! Nice grab!!!!!!!

  147. There’s a gem.

    Tabby doesn’t get that.

  148. At least he can field well. Tabata doesn’t get that.

  149. Didn’t two hand it.

  150. Nice catch Marte!

  151. Beautiful catch.

  152. Nice one Starling…

  153. Is there another left fielder who would have made that catch? I think not.

  154. Great grab by Marte, saved two maybe three bases, hopefully gives the team spark as they get heart of order back up there.

    • If he doesn’t dive and fields it. Its a single.

      • FIELD IT? That ball was so far away from Starling it would have been an easy double to the wall if he didn’t dive to catch it, it probaly a triple as announcer Stockton suggested. What game are you watching, dude?

        • Please. At most double if it gets to the wall.

          • Hurdle just said on the air (TBS interview) that “it was an easy triple (if Starling doesn’t make the catch).” I think he was a little closer than you, Ryan. Let’s let it go.

        • easy War Horse…. here’s the deal.. Marte, if he doesn’t dive, keeps running (he is fast on his feet) and he fields the ball… I think Carpenter, ever hustling, gets a double.

    • awesome catch. to be fair saved a hustling double b/c he didnt have to dive he could’ve field it on a bounce and tried to hold Matt to a single. but yes, down 2-0, it was right move to dive there and that was an awesome catch.

    • Thanks, JRay. You saw it correctly. As did Hurdle. Andvmost everybody else ‘cept a couple of bloggers here.

  155. Cole puts up a zero, nice quick inning. Walker, Cutch and More-no due up for the good guys……

  156. Holliday would still be running it down.

  157. Come on Buccos….2 hits in last 11 innings are NOT going to get it done…better than this….

  158. Cole settled down after the HR… good sign…. guess Beltran wasn’t as ready to hit Cole as he thought… 0-2 for Mr October.

  159. Barmes is like a side car on a motorcycle – just along for the ride while doing absolutely nothing.

  160. Walker making him work……

  161. Keep making him throw pitches walker

  162. Come on Jobu….wake up the bats….

  163. They are playing out of their a**e* tonight (Cardinals I mean). GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  164. Check him for PEDs!

  165. That ball would not come down

  166. Grand theft on that diving catch by the SS. :(

  167. I just muted the sound I can’t deal with them anymore!

  168. They are getting pitches to hit. One or two each at bat. Pffft.

  169. Not looking too good if the breaks dont go our way……………….

  170. Is it fair to say Wainwright has been a little lucky?

  171. Hoping the “IT” hasn’t run out for the Buccos….

  172. I am trying to determine who I hate more: the Reds or Cardinals.

    Right now: the Cardinals

  173. Bucs go down 1,2,3 again. Still 2-0 Cards……

  174. Come on Buccos…somebody do SOMETHING……….geezz…repeat of game 4….

  175. No wonder we are in trouble — according to Stockton, Alvarez is sharing 3rd with Freese.

  176. Not looking good. Momentum for Cards and Wainwright. Bucco bats are cold. Cole will have to be lights out for the next 3 innings+ for the Pirates to have a chance. I’m a little skeptical that this will happen.

  177. Fat pitch after fat pitch. No solid contact.

  178. Bats all going cold at the wrong time…..

  179. Story of game thus far, Pirates inability to manufacture anything offensively to get an inning going and put some pressure on Cards pitching and defense.

    Team needs to find a big inning.

  180. Cards showing why they have been successful the last few years….

  181. This lack of run production puts so much pressure on the pitchers. No margin for error. Man I miss the lumber company version of the Bucs.

  182. Every first pitch by Wainright is a fastball right down the middle and up, we need to swing at these once in a while.

    Nice to see our power hitting first baseman hitting weak opposite field ground balls time after time after time after…………..

  183. Story of the 2013 Buccos…offense can go cold at a moment’s notice…

  184. How about that, a guy who can actually hit to the opposite field with a shift for a pull. What a concept……

  185. This is very reminiscent of Games 6 & 7 against Atlanta in 1991.
    I hate it when history repeats itself.

  186. E-5, runners on 2nd and 3rd……

  187. Hate to say it………… the pressure is getting to them.

  188. One team is slightly better than the other.

  189. cole needs to clamp down here and get a strikeout…

  190. Damnit…falling apart under the pressure…..

  191. This is the game.
    Right here.

  192. well, this is big. not sure we can afford 2 more runs.

  193. Come on Cole….

  194. I think it’s time to warm up liriano

  195. Need a big strikeout here…

  196. Come on Gerrit…don’t fade now…..

  197. wow, adams almost ran into a double play for us… well if you call that running

  198. Yes! We are not the only ones who make dumb base running moves. Thank you SRU own Matt Adams.

  199. Or that. Great play. Slips or not he’s toast.

  200. How did Pedro expect to make that tag – standing 3 feet in front of third?

  201. the grounds crew will be busy filling in the huge crevace Adams left when he fell between 3B and home…

  202. That escape should be an insiration!

  203. That’s the way to do it Gerrit. Strike out the side.

  204. Absolutely Huge escape by Cole and Pirates, keeps game within striking distance.

  205. Milke Matheny called… he said that was a big momentum shifting inning right there. And he’s gonna be right.

  206. Gerrit Cole, Ladies and Germs.

  207. Fast ball gets us out of it.

  208. Cole works out of the jam. Way to pick up Petey, hopefully, he returns the favor this inning!

  209. Since Sunday, we have two hits.

    • It’s is really too bad as Cards have not really hit ball either with just six, but the two 2 run HR’s are proving to be difference.

  210. Are they even going to play Iginla this series???
    Why trade for him if you aren’t going to let him play?

  211. nice by cole

  212. Love that emotion. Lets go now Buccos!

  213. A 2 seamer at 98?

    Throw nothing but that. Tell them its coming. Unhittable

  214. Wow….like When Mean Joe said in the preseason when Franco ran it 75 yds for a TD…”WE got us one!”

  215. Whatever happens this game, Cole is a pitcher to be excited about in the coming years. If Taillon, Kingham, and Glasnow continue to trend well, the pitching staff will be ridiculous in 2015-2016.

  216. Byrd, Alvarez and Martin due up, I like this part of the order for a couple runs…….

  217. If that doesn’t fire up the offense, nothing will!

  218. We got to at least get nine runs this inning or its over.

  219. COLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trevor bauer.

    That is all.

  220. One pitch. One out.

  221. Is Stockton drunk? Says Holliday got that one.

  222. need a run to help settle the bucs down. take some pressure off…

  223. Off the plate. Molina got him that strike. Glove didn’t move

  224. Picked the wrong time for the offense to go into a coma, again.

  225. Oy vey, nobody looked good that inning. Damn……

  226. Buccos just have no offense….

  227. I say we in Mercer next inning in order to get as much production as possible.

  228. Even when Wainwright hangs the curve, they can’t do anything with it. Incredible.

    If I was Hurdle, I’d ask the umps to check the ball then search the pitcher. Just for the hell of it. Maybe rattle him. 2 runs might be enough for them tonight.

  229. The Pirates said all the right things about changing their hitting approach in this game. They’re doing the exact same things. That’s because they’re a mediocre hitting team, just as they have been all season. Not impressed by Jay Bell.

  230. 2 1 hitters to close out a series — ever been done in MLB history? No way to go down.

  231. Keep battling Buccos… hated Byrd swinging at a first pitch CURVE BALL… first pitch swing at fastball = good. otherwise = bad.

    pedro looks good at the plate…. he was jobbed by Jim Joyce on the strike 3 call.

    Keep it close guys… 2-0 is not over by a long shot…. yes, they don’t look good now, but that can all change in a hurry.

  232. Two hits in last 14 innings…unbelieveable…

  233. I’m guessing this will probably be Cole’s last inning regardless of how well he does.

  234. Hey, we all knew that the Bucs’ lack of offense would eventually get them. If they don’t pull it out tonite, it has been a great year by an over achieving team that has few hitters in the lineup.

  235. Going out with a whimper…..

  236. What AFN back up and running??

    Government shutdown my butt…

    Everyone needs to YouTube Howie Longs speech on that from last Sunday.


  237. Time to unload the bench….

  238. Who’s up in the bullpen?

    Somebody better be throwing.

  239. Maybe Dirk Hayhurst has a suggestion. Then again, maybe not.

  240. well, we are in the 5th inning… hopefully Cole gets through 1-2-3…then it will be the 6th…. time to crack open the pinch-hitters…starting with Harrison leading off in place of Barmes.

    I think it may also be time to think about pinch-hitting for Cole… though if Josh gets on, you can bunt Gerrit….

    I’d have Wilson ready to pitch the 6th (or Watson).

  241. cole is really on now…just need the batters to come through

  242. 100 MPH on that last fastball.

  243. Damn! What a talent…..

  244. Really hate seeing the offense let him down…..

  245. if this were a basketball or football game, a team in the PIrates position would be trying to make it a game late into the 4th quarter… with all the intangibles on the Cards side, you sometimes want to put yourself in position to grab the game late.

    The Bucs are in this game… 4 innings to go but they absolutely can jump up and steal this one away. It took a 2 out walk and one bad pitch to put the Cards ahead out of nowhere… the same can happen to Wainwright.

  246. So, would you leave Cole in or pinch hit?

  247. Cole is trying to will his team, future is very bright for him…now let’s get the kid some darn runs.

  248. 1,2,3 go the Cards. Onto the 6th……

  249. Cole. Liriano. Taillon. Morton. Any#of5thStarterOptions.
    Grilli. Melancon. Watson. Wilson. Gomez. Morris.

    I’ll take our pitching staff in 2014, thank you very much.

    • Agree.

    • Interesting to see if Wilson gets a shot as a SP….and maybe Wandy could be the #5 starter….

      • how cool is to not really have to fret over re-signing AJ (I’m for it, btw)… or for Wandy to be completely healthy (obviously I hope so as he is exercising his option)… or for Locke to get IT back (I think he will)….or for Gomez to get stretched out and start (I think he could and would do well).. or for Cumpton to just do what he did this year, give the Bucs serviceable starts in the 5th spot…..

        so many options, we didn’t even get to having to re-set Justin as a starter.

        And I left Pimental off by mistake, he’s a big arm for that bullpen also.

  250. No matter what happens tonight I’m sure of one thing. Cole will be a really good pitcher for the Pirates going forward for at least 4 or 5 years. He has shown he can rise to the occassion and be the type of pitcher this organization hasn’t seen in a long time. I admittingly didn’t think he would be this good this year. As he developes his off speed pitches he will be really tough.

  251. we saw the pirates in may and june be one of the best comeback teams in the majors…NEED to see that return in the next few innings.

  252. Love the lack of urgency.

  253. cole coming out for jones

  254. Really disagree with these stupid decisions. PH for Barmes, not Cole. Heck, Cole might be a better hitter than Barmes (kidding … slightly).

  255. Barmes, good recognition that pitch 2 was a slow curve…..good job following it down to the ground with your eyes…. BAD swinging at the @($*#(&*$*)(W&$)( pitch.

  256. Tip of the hat Gerrit….great season….

  257. Theres your answer.

    Wilson up. Jones on deck.

    I’m cool with it. Especially if Barmes gets on. Though I may want Garrets power later on.

  258. Smashed that one….

  259. I’d pinch hit tabata Not Jones

  260. base hit barmes. STFD anyone who bitched about him batting here.

  261. “I would’ve pinch hit for Barmes, instead.” This is what I was about to type.

    My name is pattonbb, and I am a homer.

  262. Rosenthal didn’t exactly look dominate in the 9th last game. Hopefully Wainwright has to give up the ball at some point.

  263. that’s the way to do it, Side Car :)

  264. Barmes! Cole is done as GI Jones is in for a pinch hitter.

  265. Glad when I’m wrong in that instance. Make me really wrong Garrett.

  266. And Barmes starts an inning off, ok good start.

  267. Atta boy, Clint.

  268. Come on G.I……

  269. first pitch…damn…

  270. And Jones flies out on the first pitch……

  271. Off the bat thought he had it. Down on the label.

  272. Who else was rooting for them to collide?

  273. Last AB for Jones as a Pirate?

  274. Liked Garrett during his time here, but he’s done. Terrible pinch-hitter because he is too damn anxious. He would’ve swung at that pitch if Wainwright threw it into the dugout. Jammed himself, and Wainwright absolutely knew it.

  275. Damnit….can’t catch any breaks tonight folks….

  276. Kidding me……………….

  277. Awful just awful.

  278. Matre GIDP. Well, they have 9 outs to go in the 2013 season, unless they start hitting the ball……..

  279. So long G.I. Jones…glad we knew ya…..

  280. Tabata could have done that.

  281. That inning sucked.

    See you in Bradenton, boys.

  282. After the Cards score a couple runs off the Pirates bullpen in the next couple of innings, the decision to pull Cole there will be the most talked-about decision after the game.

  283. If Clint Barmes has half of your hits – you lost.

  284. The out countdown is on for the cards.

  285. Marte–.136, Walker–.70 and Hurdle makes no changes when the series is one and done–brilliant.

  286. I know I am posting this after the fact:

    But why not have Cole bunt there?

  287. This offensive display should not surprise any of us. It has been their weak spot all year.

  288. Cards simply superior to bucs

  289. Well….great season Buccos….thanks for the memories and making baseball relevant and exciting again in Pirate Nation….

  290. Let’s enjoy it whilewe can.

  291. Bucs played took this as far as they could. This game felt like a loss for the last couple of days. It was predicted to be a loss and will be a loss. Bucs may not get 1 run. No way they get 2. It’s been a formality since the 3rd inning.

  292. Nice outing by Cole. I think he had plenty left in the tank. I agree with Thunder. Maybe have him bunt in that spot.

  293. Cole was in a groove and he could have bunted and prevented the DP. If Walker grounds to first, fine but to put the bat in Jones’ hands at that point reeks of “one lucky swing” desperation.

    Instead, first pitch fly out. Ugh.

  294. Wainright is beautiful to watch.

  295. It’s been a great and unforgettable season…with a brighter future….too bad it has to end tonight….

  296. Wilson issues a dreaded 2 out walk to Molina. Hold on folks, this could get ugly…….

  297. Hurdle has to pull Fleury here.

  298. Hey Clint,

    GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!!!!!!!

  299. Good Lord.

  300. Horrible managing tonight.

  301. Hmmm … I’m sure everyone will stick to their guns, but I feel vindicated.

  302. Another 2 out walk sets up the score.

  303. It might as well be 300-0.

    • You more then likely are correct and that is partially why I’m not going to rip Hurdle for the pinch hit decision. I probably would have bunted Cole but the way Wainwright is pitching 1 or 2 runs may be all we could get tonight so taking a chance with Jones is understandable.

  304. Jeebus….

  305. That 2-0 pitch was called a strike all day.

  306. 8 bounce single to right field by the highest paid singles hitter in baseball….. then a walk…. then another 5+ bounce single to center by Pirate-killer John freaking Jay…. and it’s getting close to being too big of a hole, folks….

    • Good news tonight is obvious: Cole. Bad news tonight: Marte is not ready for prime time, though I hedge that judgement to see what he does with a fully healed hand.

  307. That was a rather weak attempt by Wilson to try and stop that ball, going to take a miracle now.

  308. Buccos wilting in crunch time…pressure is too much for them…

  309. Why is Mazzarro coming in?

  310. Well I am watching my Law and Order:SVU. My heart can’t take this game anymore.