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Vacation discussion thread 10-18

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Here’s a discussion thread for the day. I’ll be back from this five-day break with coverage of Steelers-Ravens on Sunday from Heinz Field.

Game posts will continue to go up as usual, resuming with Penguins and Pitt football tomorrow.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Drew71 says:

    So are you all hung over from celebrating the Pens’ win? Or the Leylands’ loss?

    And how come EYE’m sober?

  2. JAL says:

    JAL’s Zero Zero Zero Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 Pittsburgh Pirates Stats

    BLOGS and such

    4—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: What To Do With Andrew Lambo?

    Josh Bell Could Be a Top 100 Prospect Next Year

    AFL Recap: Alex Dickerson Has Two Hits in Loss

    5 Bucs Dugout

    Pirate roster madness!

    6 Rumbunter

    Pirates GM Says New TV Revenue Will Go To Payroll

    7 PBC Site

    Pipeline Perspectives: Bell ready to join Top 100

    8 The Green Weenie

    Pittsburgh – First Base 2014

    9 Raise the Jolly Roger

    Setting the stage for the offseason

    10 City of Champions

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Grading the 2013 second basemen

  3. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 Rant Sports

    Jameson Taillon Still on Track to Make Impact for Pittsburgh Pirates

    12 Sacramento Bee

    Peter Schrag: Moneyball may win games, but it’s boring

    13 Bleacher Report

    Selecting MLB’s Mid-Postseason All-Clutch Team

    14 Detroit Free Press

    Mitch Albom: Cabrera out at home, Avila dazed at home and Tigers on the brink

    15 Boston Herald

    Red Sox one win away from World Series

    16 FanSided

    Cleveland Indians re-sign reliever Matt Capps

    17 St Louis Post Dispatch

    Miklasz: Despite concerns, home field should be World Series ticket

    18 LA Times

    Dodgers should be up to their ears in emotion,0,6907536.story#axzz2i4NjbYB3


    19 Hardball Times

    Card Corner: 1973 Topps: Bob Bailey

    20 Fangraphs

    Is Jim Leyland a Future Hall of Famer?

  4. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Ravens defensive coordinator: If you’re watching Ben, you’re watching the wrong thing

    Ravens vs. Steelers: Game will come down to quarterback play

    22 Steelers Gab

    Thursday Ravens-Steelers Injury Report


    23 Gant Daily

    US soccer coach Jurgen Klinsmann: No guaranteed spots

    24 World Soccer Daily

    Sandro Rosell’s links with Ricardo Teixeira may yet come back to haunt him


    25 Pensburgh

    Fleury Holds Pens to 4-1 Win

  5. JAL says:

    Song Zero Zero Zero by Sam Phillips (Real name Leslie Ann Phillips). Sam is singer, writer, and composer. This song from her 1996 album. Omnipop (It’s Only a Flesh Wound Lambchop)

  6. Jandy says:

    I went right to bed last night, Drew Dahling. I have work, you know!

  7. Jandy says:

    I just LOVE this line taken from lilnk 25 Pensburgh:
    “Crosby is averaging 2 points a game right now and has 14 goals and 21 assists in 22 games in Philadelphia. He’s a hockey freak of nature whose job is to give the Flyers fits.”

  8. Jandy says:

    This is total BS:
    Before Simmonds’ goal, the most interesting thing about this contest was a Penguins power play cut short because of a scoreboard malfunction.

    Flyers defenseman Braydon Coburn received a minor penalty for tripping with 59 seconds remaining in the first period.

    The Penguins did not score, and their power play carried over into the second period. Coburn’s penalty should have expired at 18:59, but he was let out of the box at 19:18.

    Bylsma said his understanding was that a 20-second intermission advertisement on the video board accidentally ran off time for the Penguins’ power play.

    Once play resumed with Coburn of the box, there was nothing the Penguins could do, Bylsma said.

    NHL officials in Toronto were investigating and planned to contact both club general managers.

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  9. Plan and the crew must have slept in. Too much victory celebrating last night.

    Only 4 of us here so far. We need DK back to write some scathing column about the need for a solid, major league first baseman or whether to trade Niski, Bortuzzo or send Maata to juniors.

    That’ll do the trick.


  10. Iceman says:

    Another important win last night for the Pens. Here are my post game thoughts:

    – Unreal pass by Maatta. I can’t find a video or GIF of the pass, but it was a midair pass off his skate right to a teammate. If anyone else can find this, please share because it was a beauty.
    – Tanner Glass had a good game. Couldn’t tell you the last time I saw a player credited with ten hits in a game. Important thing about those hits, he didn’t seem to be putting himself out of position to make the hits. Strong argument for most improved player so far.
    – Couple bad decisions by Fleury in this game, however, there were several stretches in this game that the Flyers had several shots in a row and Fleury made some nice saves. Looks pretty good so far.
    – Niskanen leads the NHL with a +10 right now. Think he likes playing with The Piece?
    – Great job by the team to hold the puck in the offensive zone to allow Jussi to snipe that goal. Real determination there.

    Lots more could be said, but great to see the Pens pick up another win.

  11. Jandy says:

    Dejan is probably itching to get back, but he knows he’s in deep doo doo if he comes back early lol.

    I can’t see Maata staying with the club. The Pens can hang onto that year of entry level contract.
    But I sure as heck would love to see him stay. The kid is a natural.

  12. Jandy says:

    All great points.

    The only thing that upset me was the 0/4 on the PP. That could cost you games.

  13. Wild Bill says:

    Great summary, Ice. One other thing stood out to me. The Flyers have a simple favorite tactic that if the puck goes behind our net, then the center or winger opposite charge down the slot looking for a quick centering pass. It’s simple, but effective if wings don’t cover the cutter. Last night it seemed like we covered fairly well.

  14. Baywatch says:

    Good morning, All! I’m not interested in hockey or football so I’ll keep checking back now and again in hopes that there is some Pirates discussion going on. I do like YINZ, too! :-)

  15. hockeymonster says:

    Agreed but don’t really remember fleury making bad decisions necessarily. If anything he looked extra sharp I thought. How bout Orpik in the paper saying he hopes the flower haters “on the blog” can “shutup now” :) Nice to know all the venting going on is being considered. And between them playing the 1-2-2 more often and a few other suggestions maybe all the venting I’ve done last few seasons is paying off. Maybe I should send Shero and fitzgerald a monster resume :)

    About Nisky…if there ever was a time to test out the trade market it would be now but who’s going to give us enough in a trade to make us consider moving a very affordable quality top 4-5 dman?

    Maatta clearly has nothing to prove in juniors but I don’t want to risk losing anyone on waivers either. Monster dilemma there…

  16. I’m sure he is. There are only so many statues, ducks and views from Mt. Washington you can do all week.

    And the kids are probably in school, so that limits much family travel.

    That Ravens game will light a fire under the lad.


  17. Who will be our left-handed hitting 1B next season to platoon with Gaby, Bayster?

  18. Jandy says:

    Hey Bay!!!! Nice to see ya… :)

  19. Jandy says:

    Fleury made an aZZ of himself behind the crease when he held up Max and took an interference penalty. Really dumb. But overall the Flower was good.

  20. Jandy says:

    ahhhh it sure will Revvie.

    is it getting colder in Kentucky land yet? Still in the 50’s here in central PA. We’ve been fortunate so far. No ice on Hippo’s pond yet :)

  21. In the 30’s this morning due to the fog.

    It’ll get to mid-60’s this afternoon.

    No ice down here until Dec. or Jan. Very, very little snow.

    We go from summer to winter. No fall-like crisp temps and no good foliage color.

    Truly the biggest thing we miss about eastern Ohio, western PA, northern panhandle of WV. Don’t miss the snow, though.

  22. Jandy says:

    Snow is a dirty four letter word lol

  23. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey Bay !

  24. Jandy says:

    Thanks, Iceman! That kid is simply amazing.

  25. theplanisworking says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……… hmmmpffmm……. huh?

    Mornin’ Reverend Poker……….. ;)

  26. theplanisworking says:

    So is work, right? ;)

  27. Baywatch says:

    Hey, Milo!

  28. Baywatch says:

    Hey, Jandy! Thanks, Good to check back!

  29. theplanisworking says:

    Fleury took a stupid penalty, was WAY out of his crease on Simmonds goal………

    but he won.

  30. theplanisworking says:

    What new menu items will be on the PNC menu next year?? ;)

  31. Ah, Rumplestillskin awakens.

  32. Jandy says:

    Yes Hipposter, it is, but it is necessary for most of us…snow isn’t lol

  33. Jandy says:

    Don’t be a stranger, friend.

  34. Baywatch says:

    I think they should give Lambo a shot at first base, Luck! Well, I don’t think he’s played there a whole lot … Hmmm … It might be doable. I agree with Tim Williams of Pirates Prospects that it sort behooves the Pirates to give him a shot next year to see if those 33 home runs in the minors last year play on the MLB level. He also pointed out that Greg Polanco WILL be the rightfielder the next year so 2014 is the time to try him out.

  35. Agree with you on Lambo, although Drew may argue that for long-term.

    He can’t be much worse in the field than Jones. I really like Garrett, but he needs to be a DH. Hope he connects somewhere and has a long career.

    I would like to see them sign Byrd, even for 2 years if necessary. They can always trade him in July if Polanco is called up.

    If not, he’s solid until Polanco is ready.

  36. theplanisworking says:


    Under the weather here.
    Now without any local sports til tomorrow night, most of western pa will snooze.

    Hope this Friday finds you, and the Kentuckians you serve doing well.
    Maybe you can teach the 1-3-1 to some youth…… ;)

  37. Iceman says:

    These are the two I was thinking of specifically.

  38. theplanisworking says:


    With a side of sweet potato fries and cheese? ;)

  39. Potine on the side.

  40. Jandy says:

    something with gravy for Brandecita ;)

  41. That’s not good for her.

    Too pasty.

    A nice salad on the side with fried mushrooms, breaded and fried cauliflower and fried turnip greens.

    Low cholesterol items.


  42. kr70 says:

    I doubt Polanco wjll start the season in Pittsburgh. you know starting their clock B.S.

  43. They would have to know how to count.

    Hope you “get to feelin’ better” as we say here in the Bluegrass.

    (I have yet to see any grass that’s anything other than green, except in that stadium in Boise)

  44. No, but his projection is for next season some time. No need to rush him if we have Marlon.

  45. theplanisworking says:

    Fleury is looking a lot better so far this year.
    I guess it will take some time to break old habits.

    Orpik needs to concentrate on his own game, and stop sniping at the blogs. Sheesh.

  46. theplanisworking says:

    With fried ice cream for dessert.

  47. theplanisworking says:


  48. These number songs this week have been really good, JAL.

  49. Yup. Mexican fried ice cream.

  50. Damon says:

    That was sweet…the kid is going to be really good….

  51. Jandy says:


  52. Jandy says:


  53. Jandy says:

    Looks like Bylsma & Company studied the same tapes as you did, Wild man ;)

  54. Damon says:

    You know things are going well for Fleury when he made that unconscious save with his goalie stick shaft with an open net. That would have made the game 2-2 (I think…).

  55. Jandy says:

    He sure seems to be in a “groove”

  56. theplanisworking says:

    Thanks, Rev.

  57. theplanisworking says:

    Double Mercy


  58. theplanisworking says:


  59. Jandy says:

    lol ya nut

  60. JohnS says:

    Not sure why everyone is projecting Polanco to be ready next year. He has a grand total of 9 AAA at bats. His AA OPS was only .762 in less than 300 plate appearnaces. This guy will probably need a more or less full year at AAA I am betting. I can’t see him up before September ’14.

  61. theplanisworking says:

    Nicest thing I have been called in a long time.

    I am outta here, pop in later to see more vacation pictures.

    You and the Reverend both have a great day. :)

  62. Dom says:

    Good article on Sean Spence:

    The good news is that he is finally cleared to practice.

  63. theplanisworking says:

    I found a picture of Crosby taking matters into his own hands regarding Fleury’s goofs…..

  64. Playoffs by 2012 says:


    So I’m digging around in the basement last night trying to find where I filed the repair manual for my lawnmower.

    And what do I find?
    My old Nintendo system.

    So I plugged that baby in, and by some miracle it still worked.
    I still had Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out in there, so I sat my happy butt down and played for About 30 minutes or so.

    Wanna take a guess who I got to face off against??

  65. Jandy says:

    Hope you don’t have the flu, Hipposter…feel better, friend :*

  66. Jandy says:

    You too too, Hipposter, rest up!

  67. Jandy says:

    Hey hey Playoffs, good to see you!!!

    This video is too funny!

  68. 21sthebest says:

    That’s definitely been my sentiment on Byrd but I also want to acquire a first baseman. To me, going with Lambo isn’t something we should do given what I think are the reasonable expectations for 2014 and that is going to the World Series.

  69. theplanisworking says:



  70. Damon says:

    Some of those old games are still fun! I found a way to play Commodore 64 games I used to play way back when, and had a blast!

  71. 21sthebest says:

    I still have my Atari Pong from the 70’s Playoffs. Just couldn’t toss it out.

  72. Jim S. says:

    He loves when they get on him. And those idiot fans in Philly take the bait every time. The play he made to set up the third goal, which he eventually tipped in BTW, was vintage Sid. Harassed the Flyer into making the mistake of dumping the puck right in front of his own net, then slipped in front of the goal and tapped in the pass. Vintage!

  73. Arriba Wilver says:

    Agree, 21. It sounds too close to the Jeff Clement experiment, and we are not in 2010 mode, where it was kind of WTF.

  74. Jandy says:

    Yin guys are still kids at heart :)

  75. Jandy says:

    err YINZ

  76. Jandy says:

    Loved it!

    Yes, those fans sure are dumb…and they look silly when he just scores and shuts them up lol

  77. 21sthebest says:

    Ha. Jeff Clement was exactly what I was thinking as I was typing that.

  78. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Good to see you all too!
    Plan, next time you change your avatar, please go with King Hippo.

    Have a great weekend all of yinz!
    I’m sure I’ll stop by again soon.

  79. hockeymonster says:

    Well it is a game of mistakes. 2 mistakes for any player in any game is basically a win. He got a little carried away digging with mad max behind the net but that stuff happens. Most importantly they stayed patient within the 1-2-2 and waited for their chances to pounce. And engo didn’t look horrible after that one pin ball shift.

  80. hockeymonster says:

    I thought vitale took an even dumber penalty when he went behind the net out of control and took a tripping call. I like vitale as much as anyone but it’s been a pattern with him lately. Either bad penalty or worse turnover. Still think Jeffrey should’ve played ahead of him as 4th line center. His defensive instincts and contribution to a good start are being underrated here and by the pens.

  81. Iceman says:

    Dude fell down a couple other times, but I guess that is to be expected shifting positions.

  82. Jim S. says:

    I didn’t like that either, Jandy. I think the system the Pens use for PPs, if system is the right word, seems to lend itself some nights to a “feast or famine” PP. They don’t seem to concentrate on possession in the zone or on a multitude of shots being fired at the opposing goalie. The Pens often go for the perfect pass and they overlook decent scoring opportunities as a result. If they are clicking, they can score a bunch of PP goals. If not, they can look really bad. I only saw half the game last night, so I can’t say that was the case for all 4 PPs. But, I have noticed this over the last couple of years.

    I am by no means a hockey expert, so if I am wrong about this, someone feel free to correct me. It just seems to me that the Pens possess so much skill that they look to make the perfect play rather than just plugging away on the PP. Overall, the strategy results in a very good PP unit. But, some nights, that strategy seems to cost them. Of course, the same could probably be said for the teams that concentrate on keeping the puck in the opponent’s end and taking as many shots as possible. That doesn’t always yield good results, either.

    Just a thought.

  83. Jim S. says:

    Actually, Brooks, I’d rather he played very well last spring during the playoffs and I’d gladly give him a pass for a bad first month of the season. I like Fleury, and I am very glad he is playing well now when we absolutely need it. But, to suggest this start to the season wipes away last year’s playoff performance … sorry, I don’t buy it.

  84. Jim S. says:

    I agree that Lambo is not a sure thing, by any means. But, Jeff Clement? That is harsh. I would keep Lambo on the 25 man next spring, and give him a shot at 1b and as a Tabby platoon for awhile – both of these assume we don’t get a veteran 1b or RF.

    I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I am actually starting to think a Gaby/Loney platoon 1b might be pretty decent.

    I don’t know what is available as far as veteran RF. I assume Byrd will want 2 years and won’t come back for that reason. If that is the case, and there is not some clearly better veteran choice that presents itself, I’d go with Tabby/Lambo in RF.

  85. hockeymonster says:

    I still don’t believe fleury was the problem last few playoffs. Yes he wasn’t great but that’s only cuz he was more of a victim of a system and a defense that was ill-built and ill-suited for the defense we had, especially for playoff hockey. Giving him a predictable structure in front to work off of will help him a lot and give us much better chance to win post season.

  86. Jim S. says:

    I am starting to think the same way, John. If he immediately tears up AAA next spring, he could be up at the AS Break. But, I’m with you. He is still young and needs AAA at bats. I could see him staying in Indy most of the year, especially if we are getting decent production in RF in Pittsburgh.

  87. Jim S. says:

    I’m sure that will sell like crazy.

  88. Baywatch says:

    It will be interesting to see what they do with Lambo, I mean he’s already quite the trade chip, being our minor league player of the year, and pretty sure his 33 home runs were right up there with the leaders throughout minor league baseball.

  89. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, that wasn’t going to happen – not when the asking price went north of $10 million per. You can’t pay a totally untested guy more than Cutch.

  90. hockeymonster says:

    Ya not having the entire play in front of you is an adjustment. Someone here said that forwards have it easy skating wise. Totally untrue! Dmen can play 25-30 minutes versus forwards who don’t ever come near that cuz there’s less distance for dmen to travel usually. You want dmen to be excellent skaters but moving up and playing forward is almost like playing another sport.

  91. I agree, Jim. Comparing anyone to Clement is harsh.

    We experimented with some pitching this season in JMac, Sanchez and Contreras and still won 94.

    I think ST should be a time to tell.

  92. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t see what is harsh about it. I’m not comparing Lambo to Clement. I’m comparing the situation of basically giving a scholarship to a relatively inexperienced player to open the season. And I think the expectations for 2014 are way different than 2010.

  93. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’ve been known to hold sports grudges. I hope the Texas Rangers never win another game.

  94. Agree about the scholarships. Them days are over, thank God.

  95. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t see him as being a trade chip until he has some major league success.

  96. Jandy says:

    Sounds reasonable to me ;)

  97. Milo Hamilton says:

    Thanks for that, but I’ve never been accused of being reasonable. :)

  98. Joni says:

    Vitale also needs to keep his lid on his head.
    Joe has nice flow (the kids tell me that “flow” means long hair), but safety first!

  99. Joni says:

    That is fantastic!

  100. Jandy says:

    Another terrible hit last night..Cody McLeod on Niklas Kornwall…nasty…

  101. Jandy says:

    The PP looked ok. Not great, not terrible. I have to give credit to Mason, he looked good last night, and if not for him, Phily would have been totally embarrassed.
    But yes, the PP tries for the perfect pass or perfect shot way too often.
    Maybe I’m nitpicking too, but to go 0/4 is not good.

  102. Jandy says:

    Most of the penalties taken are :dumb:
    Fleury’s was dumber than most I’ve seen.

  103. Jandy says:

    I was more than happy with Engo’s play last night. He did fine with changing positions.

  104. Jim S. says:

    Mason was very good.

  105. Baywatch says:

    I guess I figure with how sophisticated teams’ scouting systems are now, a team with a need for power-hitting corner outfielder might be willing to cough up someone fairly significant to take a chance on Lambo.

  106. Jim S. says:

    Thanks for clarifying, 26.2. I don’t want scholarships being given out, either. But, I’m not advocating Lambo should be given 70% of the at bats and allowed to continue if he struggles. But, there has to be some way to give a shot to a guy who may have turned a corner this year. He hit 33 HR, and actually got better in AAA. How will we ever know he is good enough if he doesn’t get some sort of a shot?

    It is a risk to go with him and Tabby in RF until Polanco is ready. But, Tabby pretty much hits RHP and LHP equally. So, if Lambo is a complete failure, Tabby gets the majority of starts (as he did in Sept). Or, they re-sign Snider or someone similar to have at the ready in case Lambo doesn’t cut it.

    I guess I don’t just automatically assume some guy will be better than Lambo vs RHP just because he is 10 years older. Now, if Byrd says he will come back for 1 year, that’s a different story. Although Byrd is also a good platoon candidate with Lambo. Byrd does not hit RHP nearly as well as he does LHP.

    Good discussion. No easy answers here.

  107. Jim S. says:

    How can you not root for this guy? He wants it so badly. But, from everything I’ve read, getting that peroneal nerve to fully heal is next to impossible to predict. I suppose it is all coming to a head soon, now that he will be back practicing again. I wish you well, Sean.

  108. toochca says:

    Is this (Nolan Ryan’s resigning) similar to the Bruce Arians “retirement”

  109. If you count the one he hit in the majors, he had 34, 2 less than Pedro.

    I am in no way incinuating that AA and AAA pitching is on any par with what he’d face on a day-to-day basis, but a chance to show what he can do would be nice.

    What did he get, 30 AB’s with the big club?

  110. 21sthebest says:

    It’s an easy answer for me Jim. Not that that means I’m going to be right but we’re finally in a position to attract some quality free agents, IMO. I don’t give a hoot about Lambo. He fits in wherever he fits in, if they can fit him in. If he has to start the year in Triple A and wait until someone gets injured, so be it. If he starts the year on the roster as a backup outfielder, that wouldn’t bother me either, unless he’s a disaster in spring training. And I thought he looked very weak in the outfield and I have no idea what their plans are for him as far as first base goes.

    Right now I see him as a younger version of Garrett Jones. If he does great in the opportunities that he gets, that would be fantastic. It’s just too bad he didn’t have his 2013 in the minors a couple of years ago so that we could get a better handle on whether or not he’s for real. He’s just way down on my priority list right now.

  111. Jim S. says:

    Possibly more like Bill Cowher’s “retirement.”

  112. Jim S. says:

    Hilarious! That thwap was on purpose. No one will convince me otherwise.

  113. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    So I briefly scrolled through last nights Pens thread.

    It seems as though Pens fans are similiar to Pirates fans.

    They hate Hurdle’s lineups and Blysma’s lineups. Think this guy should start over another guy.

    If the Pirates season taught us anything all, is that patience pays off. Do these games early in the season really matter? Trot out guys who need experience, see what they can do, adjust later when needed.

    What was the score last night again and what is the Pens record thus far?

  114. Jim S. says:

    I agree, 21, that we are now in a better position to attract free agents. Guys that already have their dough are more likely to go after a title, and Pittsburgh seems like a good possibility for some guys.

    I do tend to prefer platoons when you can’t find a guy who can play 90% of the games. So, at 1b, we could have a guy who crushes LHP (Gaby) and maybe couple him with Lambo, who should hit well vs. RHP. That can give you 25-30 HRs. .275 avg. I actually think that is a pretty reasonable projection.

    Or, we could grab Loney and pair him with Gaby for maybe a little less power, better defense and a higher avg & OBP. Assuming we get a lefty hitting free agent 1b, that would still leave RF to decide on. I would be ok with trying a Lambo/Tabby platoon for a bit. I guess I would only do that if the Bucs are convinced Polanco will be ready by mid-season or so. If they feel they want him in AAA all season, then I think I’d feel safer with a veteran RF option. But, the guys I hear mentioned don’t excite me that much. I sure wish I knew if Marlon is actually a viable option. I say that is doubtful, but I don’t know where his head is regarding a 1 year deal.

  115. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Why the Rangers? What did they ever do to you?

  116. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I’ll jump into this discussion.

    The Pirates won’t find much on the FA front in regards to 1B and with nothing much in the system for the foreseeable future either.

    That being said. I think both Jones and Gaby are gone, UNLESS they find another Jones for less, then they play platoon again, which I am OK with for now.

    I would rather see a platoon of Tabby/Lambo in RF than putting him out there at 1B. The word on the street is A. He’s only had a few games there and 2. He didnt do all that well, excluding any stats checking. Footwork is key in that position.

    In a perfect world, Lambo gets the RF job and wins ROY. He’s currently only 24, possibly a bright future, but if people are ready to wait on Polanco, then I see no reason to give Lambo a fair shot.

    If it doesnt work out, they pick up a vet at the deadline.

    That’s assuming Byrd goes elsewhere. If they resign Byrd, give Gaby the 1B position, start Lambo at AAA to work on his 1B defense.

  117. NMR says:

    “It’s an easy answer for me Jim. Not that that means I’m going to be right but we’re finally in a position to attract some quality free agents, IMO.”

    Sure its an easy answer for you, considering you aren’t the one signing the checks! :)

    Becoming attractive to free agents doesn’t equate to being able to afford them.

    Given the quality and cost of the “proven” options, is this really where you wanna shoot your bullets?

  118. Jandy says:

    Hi Ryan, nice to see you sucking up some pucks ;)

    The Pens win last night moved their record to 6-1. The Flyers are 1-7. That tickles my funny bone.

    Yeah you get the same comments as to whom to start and whom to ride the pine.
    The games matter to the extent that the higher your seeding, generally, the easier your playoffs opponent. There are plenty of games to adjust, so I don’t get too excited too early on.

    Pay attention to Sarah’s and Eric Bowser’s comments, they are two of the Loonies with the highest hockey IQ’s…Sarah is actually a goalie herself :)

  119. Jandy says:

    Hey Dom, here’s a good one for you…should make you smile:

  120. Great, Jandelita.

    Shame the Flyers are 25th, too.

    I guess I didn’t realize Buffalo was bad enought to be last.

  121. 21sthebest says:

    Because I’m not the one signing the checks NMR, I can’t suggest that we add a player via free agency? And I only make this suggestion because in my estimation, the financial situation is better and improving.

    “Given the quality and cost of the “proven” options, is this really where you wanna shoot your bullets?”

    Sure, why not? I don’t want to put this much stock in Lambo. It’s time for Nutting to keep increasing payroll.

  122. 21sthebest says:

    I wonder if a steady diet of right handed pitching would be good for Gaby.

  123. Jandy says:

    Nor did I Spunky. LOL
    I thought Philly was dead last.

  124. 21sthebest says:

    I wouldn’t want the Pirates to cough up someone fairly significant to take a chance on a Lambo.

  125. Milo Hamilton says:

    Heard Rossi on the radio during lunch & I was very encouraged. He says that in regards to Maata, the Penguins aren’t viewing the 9 game deadline as a deadline at all. All going past the 9th game does is activate his entry level deal & the Pens aren’t concerned about that. It doesn’t get him to free agency any sooner. That doesn’t happen until game 40 and that’s the number they have their eyes on.

    They are convinced he’s one of their top 6 defensemen (you’re kidding, better than Bortuzzo & Engelland ?) and their chief concern is can he withstand the rigors of an 82 game season. They’ll have a much better read on that at mid season. Plus there’s the Olympic break to factor in. Doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere.

  126. Drew71 says:

    Just for the record. I don’t like fried food and DESPISE ice cream. So it’s difficult for me me to think of anything more unappetizing than fried ice cream.

  127. Jandy says:

    Great news, Milo! I know I for one am sold on this youngster, who is a natural.

  128. Arriba Wilver says:

    Good stuff, Milo.

    So, you think Ryan was pushed out? (I know nothing other than he’s leaving, so I’m a blank slate on this). But I was one of the apparent minority who liked Chuck Greenberg.

  129. Jandy says:

    You despise ICE CREAM??? That’s just not good, Drew. Not good at all.

  130. Milo Hamilton says:

    For some reason, the words “chopped liver” come to mind. :)

  131. Jim S. says:

    Amazing. Philly was in the finals, what, 3 years ago? And this is what they’ve become since then?

  132. Milo Hamilton says:

    I really don’t think he was pushed, he just felt he had to go. The computer nerds win again. All yours now Mr. Daniels. I’ll be watching.

  133. Arriba Wilver says:

    Drew wants to live a long time.

    What comes after the Golden Wedding Anniversary?

  134. Jandy says:

    Doesn’t mean they won’t get better. But it’s nice to see them with a lousy start ;)

  135. Jandy says:

    Oh Oh Oh my bad, Milo.

    Actually, I didn’t want to put Ryan in your path. I didn’t think you two got along very well. Am I wrong?????

    sniff, sniff

  136. Jandy says:

    The golden shower????


  137. Jim S. says:

    It would not. Gaby hits .300+ with good power and great OBP vs. LHP. He does not do any of that vs. RHP. He’s the consummate platoon guy.

    I think Jones is gone for sure, and Gaby is 70% coming back. I suppose if they picked up Loney, they could say he hits LHP and RHP about the same. But, most of the available 1b options are going to be platoon guys. I say grab a lefty and pair him with Gaby. If not Lambo, then some F/A.

  138. Jandy says:

    I have a soft spot for Gaby, I hope he stays. Platoon him with someone decent.

  139. Milo Hamilton says:

    Ha ha ha. Just jerking your chain a little. And I’m fine with Ryan.

  140. Kevin says:

    Thanks to Fleury AND Mason, I think that was the lowest scoring PIT-PHI game in… I don’t know even how long… years? As huge as Fleury was in holding a 1-goal lead for most of the game, Mason was equally huge for not letting the game get away from the flyers until the last 3 minutes of the game of course.

  141. theplanisworking says:

    And, I guess I rate less than chopped liver.
    Maybe chopped Hippo?

    Man, rough crowd………..

  142. theplanisworking says:

    And, I guess I rate less than chopped liver.
    Maybe chopped Hippo?

    Man, rough crowd………..

  143. Jandy says:

    YAY! just don’t pull it TOO hard, ok? :P

    So, I’ll tell Ryan to direct his questions to you as well, then. lol

  144. JohninOshkosh says:

    Deadspin has some great articles on it. Good one about the idiot Av’s announcer all happy about Kronwall’s injury last night with a link to some Av beat reporter ripping a fan with the old “you never played the game “bit. Also, a good piece ripping Bob Nightingale for his ridiculous piece in USA Today about the Cardinals.

    Deadspin goes overboard a lot but, all in all, is a pretty decent media watchdog. Always makes me appreciate Dejan.

  145. Jandy says:

    I KNOW you and Ryan don’t get along too well.
    Now that’s just one too many chain jerkers :P

  146. Jandy says:

    How you feel, Hipposter? It’s not the flu is it??

  147. Kevin says:

    Jandy, this isn’t the pirates. If Maatta is in the top 6 (and I believe he’s firmly established himself and needs to play here), Shero will find a way to keep him here. And that’s all you really need to say. Shero’s a wizard, he’ll figure it out. ISIT!

  148. Jandy says:

    Did you see the hit on Kornball, I mean, Kronwall, Oshie?

  149. Jandy says:

    I hope you’re right, Kevin, cuz I sure like that kid!

  150. theplanisworking says:

    Doesnt seem like the flu.
    Now my pride hurts more than anything….. after being dumped out with the trash regarding hockey smarts…….. maybe I should take up checkers….


  151. theplanisworking says:

    Doesnt seem like the flu.
    Now my pride hurts more than anything….. after being dumped out with the trash regarding hockey smarts…….. maybe I should take up checkers….


  152. theplanisworking says:


  153. Milo Hamilton says:

    Heck no. I don’t know anything about hockey. :)

  154. CWalton_67 says:

    Agree on Maata. Next year, he can begin his very long run in a Pens uni. Going to be a very good player for a long time.

  155. Kevin says:

    Niskanen had to know his job is at stake. I think that is the main reason why he has played with the energy he has… and almost a take charge/aggressive attitude to shoot the puck. I like it.

    It was actually extremely fortunate for Niskie that Letang got hurt. Wasn’t Letang originally paired with Piece? I don’t find it shocking at all that Niskie is doing well with Scuds.

  156. Jandy says:


  157. Jandy says:

    LOL! You crack me up, buggee ;)

  158. Bizrow says:

    Supposedly there has been “rooster fighting” in the Rangers FO for quite some time now.

    Too many egos, its a shame, they have had enough success these past several years that you’d think everyone could be happy.

  159. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, we are just giving you a hard time today.

    I know Eric and Sarah are the top poobahs regarding hockey. I am just content to stay in my nature preserve, and watch. And have snacks.

    Mercy. ;)

  160. Jandy says:

    Scuds makes everyone he plays with better. Niskie is probably playing the best hockey of his career paired with Scuds.
    Niskie also had flashes of that last season. I’d like to keep him, too. Man, we can’t keep everyone, tho lol

  161. JohninOshkosh says:

    I did. Hate to see anyone go off in a stretcher.

  162. Jandy says:

    Everyone’s picking on Mother Theresa today.
    Oh well, I’ll be fine.

    Otherwise I’d have to get out my size 9 wides :P

  163. buggee says:

    it was tremendous too as far as the fan reaction. There was a mass exodus after that goal. Seems like Filly has already given up on the flyers.

    That’s a sad state for the “Best Hockey Player in the World”. Didn’t even look like Girioux was on the ice last night.

    Brings a tear to my eye it does it does. Question: Will Filly have as many coaches this year as they get goals? (just kidding, they’re not THAT bad… are they?)

    Between the NYR, NYI, NJD and Philthy… what izzat, like 5 wins between those 4 teams? They are sucking like i’ve never seen stuff suck before.

  164. theplanisworking says:

    I would offer you some of my sherbert……….

  165. theplanisworking says:

    I would offer you some of my sherbert……….

  166. Jandy says:

    We’ve already had 5 or 6 of these nasty hits this early in the season.
    I know there were at least 3 suspensions and one fine.

    Hopefully the league addresses it.
    I don’t want to see Sid go out with another concussion because some goon was over zealous!

  167. NMR says:

    Never said you couldn’t suggest anything, 21. Just that it is EASY (your word) for you to suggest throwing money at the problem because you obviously don’t have to worry about the financial ramifications.

    I want Nutting to start adding payroll as well, but on smart moves. In your opinion, which free agent would be money well spent?

  168. Milo Hamilton says:

    On the “you never played the game” bit. Kornheiser recalled a story yesterday where an NFL player told him he wasn’t qualified to be on Monday Night Football because he never played the game. Kornheiser told the player that since he obviously didn’t graduate with a degree in English, he wasn’t qualified to have this conversation. Brilliant.

    By the way, I didn’t think Tony was very good on MNF either. But it’s still a great story.

  169. theplanisworking says:

    Listening to the “once-great” Bill Clement on the Philthy postgame show, one would think the Flyers are headed to the Cup Finals again. I couldnt tell if he had homerism, or dementia.

    But never fear, things could get worse for Philthy, Giroux could get injured. (not that I am wishing that on him, or any other player). After Giroux, there isnt too much there…………

  170. Jandy says:

    “Brings a tear to my eye it does it does.”
    You were laughing that hard? ;)

    I don’t mind seeing Phithy suck, I cannot stand that team or that city.

    NYI will turn things around, they are a young, talented team. Philly won’t be the epitome of suck all season either. It’s early.

  171. Jandy says:

    Oh for sure, Kevin. Had not Mason stood on his head, Philly would have been so embarrassed (they’d have lost by 10 or 12 goals instead of just 3)

  172. buggee says:

    I like Maata… not THAT way sicko, as a player… a HOCKEY player. Yeesh.

    lots of positives about his game, but I don’t see him being that extraordinary at this point to warrant keeping him past the 9 games, especially if that pointy-headed blueliner that Jandy covets returns soon.

  173. NMR says:

    Speaking of, are we assuming Garrett Jones is done as a big leaguer? Seems obvious he’ll be non-tendered, but so was Jeff Karstens.

  174. Jandy says:


  175. buggee says:

    some of KY’s number 2 cash crop is laced with purple!

  176. theplanisworking says:

    I believe Ryan was “used” in texas, and now that he isnt needed anymore, he is gone. Let me explain.

    Ryan was the “face” of the bidders trying to buy the team. His sole purpose, IMO, was to make sure Cuban didnt succeed in buying it. Then, Ryan was the “face” again, helping to negotiate the TV deal. Now that those things are done, and Greenberg was canned, they undercut Ryans powers, so he left. He became a man without anything to do, and he didnt want to stay that way.

    Quite the shame down there.

  177. Jandy says:

    Clement suffers from headuphisbuttsyndrome.


    Philly won’t suck all season. Fartsmell will come back and that will help some. But I don’t want them to be very good. Let them feel the pain. lol

  178. Jandy says:

    ya nut!

  179. theplanisworking says:

    Kornheiser is a cranky old man.
    But he is right wayyyyy more than he is wrong.
    And, he is a fave of mine, as is Bill Plaschke.

  180. Kevin says:

    No one said it. Max Talbot was fantastic last night. He did everything but score the winning goal. You could tell whenever he was on the ice. He skated with energy. He drew penalties. He was possibly the best player on the ice for the flyers outside of Mason.

  181. buggee says:

    I was at that Boston game when he came in for Vokoun.
    One shot (first shot) from 20-30 feet, unobstructed, and poof! in the net.
    Bulaklak (Tagalog for “Flower”) has mad skills but if his head aint right, he aint right. And he was far from right in that game.
    I think he’s so much better this season because of the return of Scuds.

  182. theplanisworking says:

    Which goes to emphasize the Philthy problem………… when Maxime Talbot is your best player on the ice, you have problems, and they are many and great.

    Still love Max, he plays with energy and smarts all the time.
    But, he aint no Sid……………..

  183. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, and I am remiss for forgetting this earlier in the food discussion…………..

    Happy Chocolate Cupcake Day, Everybody !!!! ;)

  184. Kevin says:

    Yes definitely not Sid. Flyers missed 3-4 chances to score into an open net last night. But when you are in a funk as they are, that happens. Penguins seem to be hitting plenty of posts as well. I wish I had thought to keep track of how many posts we hit. I really thought Olli Maatta would get his first NHL goal but he put one of the post.

  185. Kevin says:

    I’m kinda surprised Chukky doll is still on MNF. The guys basically a cartoon character with all his odd facial expressions and whatnot. I dunno if he has some kinda John Madden-esque appeal but I surely don’t see it. :|

  186. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I get along with everyone…….even….ya know, that guy….

    Ha ha, OK maybe not that guy, but everyone else I do..for the most part. depending on the day.


    Oh and thanks Jandy for the help, I do understand the playoff structure, just think its a little early in the season to start complaining already about this line or that line.

  187. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I try to direct my question to anybody that will answer/read.

    I’m not picky

  188. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Plan’s just a little sensitive to some of my comments.

    I’ve been good lately.

  189. Jandy says:

    LOL! Tanger will be back very soon.

    Much to MY enjoyment ;)

  190. Jandy says:

    Fans will always complain, Ryan :)

  191. Jandy says:

    See Milo? he’s not picky, he’ll ask you :P


  192. Jandy says:

    Lately ;)

    Plan is a big hearted-Hippo and doesn’t hurt anyone.

  193. theplanisworking says:

    When you get off work, and quit eating everything on this blog, you have to look at the link I put up above about Sid and Flower.


  194. Jandy says:

    ALL right, gotta go get some stuff done. Everyone enjoy the weekend, hope to see some of Yinz on here some time during the course of it :)

  195. Jandy says:

    Yes, friend, it’s facebook and I can’t access it here, I will look at it at home tho.
    DOn’t be maligning my character, Hipposter :P

  196. JohninOshkosh says:

    Admittedly, I’m in the minority here, but I liked both Kornheiser and Miller. Brought a little fun to the telecast. After a weekend of watching football with jock analysts, it was somewhat refreshing listening to someone who wouldn’t go into depth about the Tampa 2.

  197. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    As a big leaguer? Not at all.

    I do think someone will take a chance, probably an AL team on a minor league deal.

    I dont see him getting a raise on top of what he made this year, that just doesn’t make sense to me.

  198. buggee says:

    THAT’s the way it should be JandyGal

  199. Milo Hamilton says:

    Spider 3-wide banana.

  200. buggee says:

    it’s the only city I’ve ever been to that causes me to yak on a completely empty stomach. I get that reaction as soon as I enter the dump of an airport.

  201. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Interesting take……at first, I was in total disagreement with you, but your explaination makes sense.

    I don’t really think Ryan would let them get away with that. He is hugly successful in the business world, outside of baseball, but you never know.

    I sure hope that isnt the case. My favorite pitcher of all time, even over the Pirate guys.

    (I have his autograph, on a card, stashed away somewhere)

  202. 21sthebest says:

    No NMR. I suggested that it was an easy decision for me because we are now in a better position to attract free agents and because Lambo is a huge question mark in my mind. It has nothing to do with the financial ramifications being Nutting’s and not mine. Whenever I’m making personnel decisions, I always have the team’s financial situation in mind.

  203. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I know. I just think its a little premature at this point.

    I guess it gives folks something to talk about.

    Agreeing with every move would be boring

  204. NMR says:

    So then who are your suggestions?

  205. NMR says:

    Given the other options, wouldn’t a deal like that be attractive to the Porates as well?

  206. Kevin says:

    Will be surprised if Letang does not play against Vancouver tomorrow afternoon. I have no idea how the line pairings change. Or who would pair with Maatta. It would be easy to just pair Letang with Maatta but I have no idea what that would look like.

    Orpik-Martin is a given at this point… would you drop Niskanen to 3rd pairing with Maatta and match up Scuds and Letang for 2nd? I have no idea.

  207. Bizrow says:

    Saw him pitch in Toronto, the only time I’ve ever bought scalper tickets,

    I’m pretty sure I saw him when he was with the Mets as well, but that was before he became the Man ;-)

  208. 21sthebest says:

    I like Morales, Loney, Hart, and Lind better than Lambo. Obviously you could explore any trades if any first base names are being tossed around.

  209. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I didnt say he did hurt anyone…

  210. Kevin says:

    If we have Marlon Byrd in RF, whats the rush in bringing up Polanco?

  211. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I would say absolutely.

  212. Kevin says:

    the NHL regular season means even less than the MLB regular season. I think its mostly because alot of teams make the playoffs vs. the MLB and people are on much equal ground in the NHL. Home field advantage should mean more in hockey but the pirates fans made a pretty strong case of home field advantage mattering in MLB too.

  213. hockeymonster says:

    Oh no question flower was somewhat out of sorts at that point…however the reason for that being the case was cuz of a system that didn’t suit the defense as constructed. I think we can see this season(2 plus seasons too late IMO) they’re finally laying the kind of foundation that can give you a chance in the playoffs.

  214. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    After we moved from Pittsburgh, we moved to Port Charlotte area of Florida.

    At the time, the Texas Rangers were there (Now home of the Rays) and I got a lot of autographs that way. Mainly the visitors side (Pirates) all the time.

    Getting ready to leave after a game, saw a group of people huddled around somebody on the Rangers side, went over there and Nolan was signing everything and anything. Good conversation as well.

  215. NMR says:

    Thanks, 21.

  216. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    BTW, since my first name is Ryan, I wanted to name my oldest son Nolan Ryan…….but his mother didnt like that.

    To this day I swear that’s why I divorced her….never the same after that.

  217. Baywatch says:

    Wonder if the Pirates might be interested in Paul Konerko now that the Sox have signed Abreu? Is he too old? Or would they be real intent on getting a left-handed hitter to platoon with Gaby?

  218. Drew71 says:

    I think the nature of our little blog just changed.

  219. 21sthebest says:

    Tony is my favorite radio host ever and I thought he was awful on MNF and I believe he did too. Also, when he left radio to write a sitcom for Jason Alexander, I thought two mediums got worse.

  220. Bizrow says:

    I don’t think we’ll see another pitcher like him for a long long time.

    Its all due to the pickle juice he used to get rid of his blisters ;-)

  221. Kevin says:

    ya that is a shocker… considering how good Enroth appears to be. I guess just proves that bad teams can have great goalies on them. Tim Thomas, Mason, Enroth, etc.

  222. Drew71 says:

    From earlier…no. I’m married. Why would I want to live a long time?

    I just despise ice cream.

    No fooling: about six months ago, I woke in a sweat from a nightmare. In the dream, I was forced to eat ice cream. That’s it. Nightmare.

  223. Kevin says:

    yeah, that’s probably the most interesting part of the whole thing. How does he compare to… oh I dunno… More-no?

  224. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Does anybody else feel that there is something more leading the BoSox to the World Series?

    Truly inspiring. I think I just started pulling for the Sox now.

  225. Kevin says:

    What is it about the ice cream that scares you, Drew? What about gelatto, frozen yogurt, or rainbow sorbet? On a related food matter, what about iced coffee?

  226. Kevin says:

    the beards? by the hairs of their chinny chin chins?

  227. NMR says:

    Even if Jones regresses back to 2010/2011 levels, he still hits righties as well or better than Loney ever has.

    This time last year, Loney was in Jones’ shoes coming off the worst season of his career. Considering Loney’s second half OPS of just .700, I’m not sure I should expect a repeat performance.

  228. NMR says:

    Konerko? No.

    Get them to take a third of Adam Dunn’s contract and now we’re talking.

  229. Drew71 says:

    I dislike ice coffee and everything it stands for. But no nightmares.

    Ice cream, however, is like torture to me. It’s not a scared thing. It’s like poison. I get a little sick to my stomach just thinking about it.

  230. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t know how Ryan’s sole purpose was to make sure Cuban didn’t buy the Rangers. They were in a bidding war to buy the team out of bankruptcy in auction. When the money got too high, Cuban announced he was pulling out.

  231. Dom says:

    Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

    Fleury is the greatest goalie of all time.

  232. 21sthebest says:

    You dislike iced coffee and Billy Joel. I don’t think we can be friends anymore. Next you’ll be telling me you hate children and dogs.

  233. NMR says:

    FWIW, I’m with you on Greenberg, AW. Responsible for putting the Spikes in State College and was a great owner while with the Curve.

  234. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:


  235. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I’m not a fan of the beard thing. A little worn out.

  236. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    And long toss…NOT having a pitch count.

  237. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    If the Pirates can’t find a suitable sub for the Gaby/Jones platoon and Jones takes a pay cut, I’m all for a repeat and the Buccos go after a RFer or another SP.

    I just don’t see Jones coming back with an arb raise.

    Ross Olehndorf anyone?

  238. Drew71 says:

    We were friends?

  239. Drew71 says:

    When a non-conformist thing becomes conformity, it’s time to shave.

  240. Well put, Drewmeister.

  241. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Since we were talking baseball up above, I had a few minutes to spare and wanted to take a look at a few numbers. I looked at a few players that would spark some interest.

    Player 1: 31 years old .259/ .360/ .482/ .842 w/ 23HRs 92 RBI Projected $14mil
    Player 2: 31 years old .244/.325/.411/.735 w/22/87 Projected $10mil
    Player 3: 33 years old .219/.320/.442/.762 34/86 Projected $15 mil

    Player 1: Mike Napoli
    Player 2: Combo of Jones/Sanchez
    Player 3: Adam Dunn

    Question: Does the additional boost in production from Mike Napoli equate to an additional $4mil over what the platoon of Jones/Sanchez produces?

    I figured he was more of a DH type of player, but did have a .994 fielding percentage with only 6 errors.

    I’m still not sure if he’s worth the extra 4 mil, assuming Jonesy doesn’t get a lower offer.

  242. JohninOshkosh says:


  243. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:


    It was cute when the Giants bullpen started it in 2010, with of course Brian Wilson leading the way. I thought for sure he would’ve shaved it this season, especially going to the Dodgers.

  244. 21sthebest says:

    Don’t reply to my posts anymore.

  245. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:


  246. Dom says:

    Sid was voted best dressed in the NHL by Vanity Fair.

  247. BillyBaduka says:

    They really need a right handed shot or the PP to man the left side. It’s maddening to watch.

    The entire left side of the ice is wide open. The opposing team sets up two in the center and two on the right and rarely even have to adjust.

    There is no threat of a shot from the left side.

    Letang will move over there from the point from time to time when he is back. IMO that’s not enough. There should be at least one right handed shot on each PP unit.

  248. JohninOshkosh says:

    The TBS baseball pregame show ?

    (using my best Larry David as George Steinbrenner voice):

    un watch a bull

  249. Wild Bill says:

    John, I’d rather talk Big Ten hockey with you than watch baseball without the Bucs.

  250. Wild Bill says:

    Now even more haters for Sid.

  251. JohninOshkosh says:


    Bill, I see Penn St. plays Air Force tonight as part of the Big Ten/Hockey East Challenge. I saw some of Penn State’s game against Army last Friday night. Looked pretty good, I thought. Arena looked nice. I think they will quickly become a program of note.

    Will still be hard for them to get kids from Wisconsin and Minnesota though. :)

  252. JohninOshkosh says:

    Boy, I know he’s Clayton Kershaw and all, but maybe Donnie Baseball ought to have had someone up in the pen. Then again, Kershaw and the Dodgers got screwed on that non-trike call. That pitch was straight down Sunset Boulevard.

    Oh, and Puig is annoying.

  253. JohninOshkosh says:


  254. Arriba Wilver says:

    2 points from the Cardinals-Dodgers game:

    Hurdle should have taken Kershaw out sooner

    Wacha is this season’s Avery

  255. JohninOshkosh says:

    The self-congratulating going on with Cardinals fans on twitter regarding their applause of Dodger Skip Schumaker is making me nauseous.

  256. I fail to see what’s so baffling about him. But you’re right.

    This will definitely be his finest hour. St. Louis always seems to find one or two that surface big time in post season.

  257. Wild Bill says:

    Stepped out a while, John. PSU wants to recruit the east and Canada, I think. The arena is great.

  258. pattonbb says:

    Evening, friends. Hope all is well. Here’s a few thoughts about tonight and this weekend.

    1. Glad the Cards will represent the NL.
    2. Puig is more annoying than Brandon Phillips. And I think they’ll be teammates next year.
    3. Donnie Baseball will get fired.
    4. Adrian Gonzalez is an outstanding ballplayer. Never got to see him play much. He’s a stud.
    5. No team with a payroll less than $100m will ever win the WS.
    6. Ravens defense will have 8 sacks, but Flacco will play like Flacco. Steelers by 4.
    7. Todd Haley won’t make it to the end of the season. Lane Kiffin’s name will be on the list to replace him.

    How many days until pitchers and catchers report?

  259. Drew71 says:

    True Story.

    Last night my wife asked me: Didn’t you tell me that something special was going to happen on Halloween?

    Me: Yeah. You’re gonna get a new broom.

  260. MadTurk says:

    Good one!!!

  261. Drew71 says:

    Then I ice my eye.

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