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Morning Java: Your turn to ask Tomlin anything

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> The TribLIVE Radio show today — 2-3 p.m. — will be loaded with Steelers and Penguins, and we’ll open with a discussion of Mike Tomlin’s demeanor in his press conferences.

Further, we’ll open with a question for you: If you were a reporter at one of those, observing all professional decorum, what would you ask Tomlin?

Here’s some of his session yesterday …

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Hope you can tune in!

>> The Steelers can’t afford another loss in Oakland. Alan Robinson reports.

Lawrence Timmons is set to play despite a broken hand. Because he’s tough like that.

Here’s our full Steelers coverage, including good stuff on Terrelle Pryor.

Here’s Raiders news from the San Francisco Chronicle.

Here are official game highlights from NFL.com.

>> John Harbaugh tries to keep the Ravens from panicking. Other than Terrell Suggs, of course. It’s OK if Terrell panics. The Baltimore Sun covers.

>> In praise of the Penguins’ management, by columnist Joe Starkey.

Anyone remember the club is missing two huge pieces? Josh Yohe reminds.

Here’s our full Penguins coverage.

Here’s Islanders news from Newsday.

Here are official game highlights from NHL.com.

>> Clint Hurdle is The Sporting News’ National League Manager of the Year. Travis Sawchik has it.

>> The Reds apparently upgraded on Dusty Baker. That couldn’t have been hard. The Cincinnati Enquirer has several pieces on Bryan Price’s hire.

>> Pitt will have to do get it done with offense, Jerry DiPaola writes.

>> I’ll be with the Steelers today, leading up to the show, then out to Southpointe with the Penguins tomorrow.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.

Comments

  1. Ghost says:

    Q: Coach Tomlin, would your mother approve of how you behaved on Sunday?

    (Just joking. I actually didn’t even catch Sunday’s postgame, only heard about it around here.)

    A more serious question: What would a post-Dick LeBeau defense look like with Tomlin still as head coach?

  2. JoeyBats says:

    Obviously… ;-)

  3. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 Boston Globe

    This World Series needs some villains

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/10/23/this-world-series-needs-some-villains/UYvKAoRg5v8VwaInJoy1VL/story.html

    12 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

    Brewers can watch and learn from the Cardinals

    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/brewers-can-watch-and-learn-from-the-cardinals-b99125662z1-228875841.html

    13 Rant Sports

    5 Players That Pittsburgh Pirates Could Sever Ties With This Offseason

    http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2013/10/22/5-players-that-pittsburgh-pirates-could-sever-ties-with-this-offseason/

    14 Peoria Journal Star

    Wessler: Cardinals fans better get used to being hated

    http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1372978479/Cardinals-fans-better-get-used-to-being-hated?rssfeed=true

    15 Boston Herald

    Cardinals all fired up

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/boston_red_sox/2013/10/cardinals_all_fired_up

    16 LA Times

    The Dodgers’ A.J. Ellis breaks down the World Series matchups

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseball/mlb/dodgers/la-sp-1023-aj-ellis-dodgers-world-series-20131023,0,7703851.story#axzz2iXYDcmun

    17 St Louis Post Dispatch

    CULTURE CLASH? Not in this Series

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/culture-clash-not-in-this-series/article_2dc0f232-0f77-52a4-8f0d-32f0e2a73b13.html

    Bernie: Cards, Red Sox both play hardball

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-cards-red-sox-both-play-hardball/article_dfe2fea9-f33a-5221-84b7-ce5bcf6f5082.html

    18 Detroit News

    Tigers’ Gene Lamont wants to manage, wonders if he’s too old at 66

    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131022/SPORTS0104/310220088/

    SPORTS WEBSITES

    19 Baseball Prospectus

    11 Moves That Helped the Cardinals and Red Sox Win the Pennants

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=22093

    20 Fangraphs

    FanGraphs Crowd: The Top 47 Free Agents

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-crowd-the-top-47-free-agents/

    The Worst of the Best: The Season’s Wildest Swings

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-worst-of-the-best-the-seasons-wildest-swings/

    Dan Haren, Tim Lincecum, and Perception Gaps

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-haren-tim-lincecum-and-perception-gaps/

  4. JAL says:

    I posted links 1 through 10 and 21 through 25 but only 11 through 20 showed up so far

  5. Jandy says:

    Uh-oh, Tomlin broke the blog!

  6. Jandy says:

    Joe Starkey’s column that Dejan included above is a very good read. Opened my eyes to a lot. Also has a Clint Hurdle reference that’s a good one.
    Thanks for the link, Dejan. I don’t always get to the others sports writers’ stuff on the trib site.

  7. DJ says:

    For Tomlin, why Mesko over Butler? Mesko has been horrible, and it was good to see Tomlin mention that at least one punt per game is of the junior varsity variety. It seems he may be closer to two of those per game, on average.

    On Matta, they cannot possibly send him back to London. He will benefit more from being with the big club and we need to start bringing these guys along. We cannot afford to break in 2 or 3 new defensemen in a single year. Next year, Pouliot, Dumoulin and others should be pushing to crack this line-up.

    On Pouliot, although I think plus/minus can be very misleading, saw he was +7 in his last game. I’m very excited by the prospect that, in the foreseeable future, he will be quarterbacking our power play if he keeps progressing. It should occur at a nice transition point given Martin’s contract.

    Saw your comment on Niskanen being on the ice way too much against the Avs and was thinking (and saying) the same thing while at the game.

  8. JAL says:

    Yep, and when i try to repost it tells me duplicate comment.

  9. Jandy says:

    dang, JAL. We need to call in and ask Tomin why he broke the blog!

  10. Jandy says:

    I was under the impression the Maata decision was a done deal:
    http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/4912358-74/maatta-penguins-nhl#axzz2iXeGJ38k

  11. kr70 says:

    sending a message to his players

  12. Dom says:

    I know I brought this up before but the only question I would have for Tomlin is why has Derek Moye not been in when we’re approaching the goal line? Meanwhile, the Steelers did feel comfortable going long when he dropped that TD pass. Wouldn’t it make sense to have someone who is nearly six and a half feet tall in when we’re on the five yard line?

    I’m sorry but while I am at work, I’m unable to call or email anyone.

  13. Lad 9 says:

    He wanted the blog to be thoughtfully non-rhythmic today…

  14. Jandy says:

    lol how ya doin laddie?

  15. hockeymonster says:

    Pouliot could turn out to be excellent but he’ll need atleast a full season of seasoning at WB. His defensive instincts need to improve. Between he and joe morrow I wonder if that Portland team in the WHL is just a free wheeling program. And when I saw seth jones play with pouliot you could see him being a big time prospect but his instincts on defense weren’t great either. I think you and I talked about this before but that’s why I thought maatta and Harrington were closer to being nhl ready. That being said Maatta has held his own but his skating still has room for improvement. He doesn’t have much to prove in juniors but if uses the next year to work on his skating he can definitely stick next season.

  16. theplanisworking says:

    Is he going to take away the games from the blog also??

  17. Lad 9 says:

    Very good read + many

  18. Lad 9 says:

    Good morning Jandy and Hippo. Doing well. Got a bit of breathing room here for about a half hour and decided to check my favorite place. How are you my friends? Missing Brandie girl……

  19. JAL says:

    Had this on Maata in the links that did not post

    25 Pensburgh

    Why the Pens should keep Olli Maatta

    http://www.pensburgh.com/2013/10/22/4866726/why-the-pens-should-keep-olli-maatta

    Why the Pens should send Olli Maatta back to London

    http://www.pensburgh.com/2013/10/22/4866824/why-the-pens-should-send-olli-maatta-back-to-london

  20. theplanisworking says:

    Happy Boston Cream Pie Day, everybody!!!

    Nice to see Liriano win Comeback Player of the Year, and Hurdle win Manager of the Year. I think Milo said the “real” awards happen in November?? Well, here is to 2 wins, I guess. Huntington should win Executive of the year, but if the award is for both leagues, I am afraid of Boston’s Cherington winning, becasue the media just looooooves Boston. Yeck.

    And the Reds upgraded over old Dustball Baker? Choo probably gone, and Phillips doesnt have his race-baiting buddy to protect him now. I see a year of potential problems before they figure out the clubhouse issues. Oh, and Dustball can now ask people if they want fries with that.

  21. theplanisworking says:

    Hi Lad. Kinda quiet here today, probably everyone eating Boston Cream Pie today. Oh, and I blame Tomlin for chasing Brandie away………….. ;)

  22. Lad 9 says:

    I haven’t seen or read about Tomlin’s presser yesterday. Did he get even more obnoxious and act more superior than he normally does?

  23. Dom says:

    Just a few days ago it was pumpkin cheesecake day. Where do you get this information!

    I saw that Giant Eagle has frozen pumpkin cheesecake but I haven’t dug in yet.

    I have no idea where we can obtain Boston cream pie, except at the cheesecake factory but I’m not going all the way out there for that…

  24. Not hard to upgrade from a low starting point. Dusty may have to retire or be somebody’s “hitting” coach.

    Cherington might win because of worst to first. Pirates weren’t worst or first, but arguably the best turnaround season after 2 EC’s and 20 years of hog slop.

  25. theplanisworking says:

    Happy Swallows Depart from San Juan Capistrano Day, everybody!!

    Speaking of birds………… the Matta issue should be put to rest by now. At game 39, Shero has to address his FA status……….. Matta will either be good enought to saty up at the NHL level, or will play his way back to Juniors. So we have 2 more months before we have to do any worrying.

    Didnt post anything about the Pens loss to Colorado. I think that SOG are a bit olverrated. I saw many shots go right into JSG’s chest. Big difference between a shot on goal unobstructed from 40 feet, and a good shot on goal. No traffic in front either………. gee, where have we seen that before???????

    Question for Coach Tomlin? Its a family-type blog. Nuff said. ;)

  26. JAL says:

    Gold glove awards on Oct. 29, others in mid November

  27. Lad 9 says:

    It is definitely National Boston Cream Pie Day today. Not sure where Plan finds this stuff, but I love it.

    I have been telling my boss, who is a Detroit native and a huge Tigers fan, that the three leading candidates to replace Leyland are Lloyd McClendon, Gene Lamont, and now Dusty. He might take a bridge if one of those is the choice! I would throw in Bobby Valentine if I thought he would believe me… :)

  28. theplanisworking says:

    Giant Eagle used to sell Boston Cream Pies, but you probably have to go to a “neighborhood” bakery to get a good one.

    I am the blogs master of useless information, so its my duty to post a “useless” holiday every day. ;)

  29. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, agreed Reverend.

    If the award is one for each league, Huntington wins in a slam dunk.
    If it is for both leagues combined, I know how the media (writers) just love Bos/NYY/LA. Hard to overcome that continual bias, even though the Pirates are a much better story. Guess we have to wait and see.

  30. theplanisworking says:

    Thanks, JAL.

    Are there any other awards besides Sporting News and BBWA?

  31. theplanisworking says:

    John Russell, and Art Howe are available. ;)

  32. 21sthebest says:

    Just an FYI, the media doesn’t vote for the Sporting News Executive of the Year. A panel of Major League Executives do the voting. Last year 57 executives voted.

  33. Milo Hamilton says:

    About the World Series, is there any way both teams could lose ?

  34. theplanisworking says:

    They are still playing baseball?

  35. I wish. Bernie Miklasz is a good writer, but his column today, JAL’s link #17, is nauseating to a Pirate fan.

    “The two best teams in baseball”.

    Like you said, maybe they can both lose.

  36. JAL says:

    November 4 The Players Choice Awards

    November 6 Silver Slugger Awards

    November 11 Sporting News Executive of the Year

  37. JAL says:

    Posting some of the links in pieces

    4—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: Charlie Morton is Comparable to Derek Lowe and Brandon Webb

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/10/first-pitch-charlie-morton-is-comparable-to-derek-lowe-and-brandon-webb.html

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2013 Season Recap: The Starting Rotation

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/10/pittsburgh-pirates-2013-season-recap-the-starting-rotation.html

    Winter League Recap: Gregory Polanco Doubles Twice In Win

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/10/winter-league-recap-gregory-polanco-doubles-twice-in-win.html

    The Pirates Have Plenty of Starting Pitching Depth in 2014

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/10/the-pirates-have-plenty-of-starting-pitching-depth-in-2014.html

    AFL Recap: Ngoepe Helps Scottsdale to 5-1 Victory

    http://www.piratesprospects.com/2013/10/afl-recap-ngoepe-helps-scottsdale-to-5-1-victory.html

  38. JAL says:

    JAL’s 8 days a Week Morning Links

  39. Jandy says:

    Happy hump day to everyone woop woop!

    Yes I miss Brandie too.

    LOL Revvie…love the play on words…
    Tomlin is obviously oblivious ;)

  40. Jandy says:

    useless? I think not, Hipposter :P

    Good to see you this morning…

  41. Jandy says:

    good song :)

  42. Lad 9 says:

    Involuntary shudder on JR. Suspect that Art Howe was not as bad as he was portrayed in Moneyball though…. How about (heading for the can as I think about) Jin Tracy? Brrrrrr

  43. theplanisworking says:

    Good to be here, Jandy.

    Happy to provide worthless food holidays to all the peeps here.
    You are in for a real treat tomorrow…………..

    Anyway, havent watched an inning of the playoffs after the Bucs were eliminated, and I wont start now. Yeck to both teams, and the obnoxious following they have. Boston this, St. Louis that. Just as bad as the Dodgers and Yankees. Nauseating stuff.

    Coach cliche better get a W on the West Coast for the first time in 8 years. Tired of seeing the team lay a huge egg out there, only to hear about the standard………..

    BTW, Redman was cut this week. What is going on with Tomlin and his RB’s? The talent evaluation from Colbert and Tomlin is absolutely baffling. I guess we can see Redman return to the team in 3 weeks, as he did to Dwyer?? Yeck.

  44. theplanisworking says:

    I thought 8 days a Week was a tribute to my counting skills…………

  45. Jandy says:

    ewwww bad visuals there lol

  46. Lad 9 says:

    HUMP DAAAA-AAYYYY. Cracks me up every time

  47. Jandy says:

    Who knows? The Steelers are a team in disarray and transition.
    Only time will tell…

    No baseball here either. No interest for me…

  48. theplanisworking says:

    Dustball Baker is available………….. ;)

  49. Jandy says:

    me too Laddie lol

  50. Lad 9 says:

    It is my company’s work week! :)

  51. Jandy says:

    worse visuals…need my own can now
    UGH!

  52. theplanisworking says:

    You know, I am really starting to feel bad for the camels!!

  53. Jim S. says:

    To me, it can’t be said enough: You are a very generous man for doing this each and every day, JAL! Thanks, again!

  54. theplanisworking says:

    :D

    You afraid of snakes??? LOL

  55. Jandy says:

    pfffftt!! :P

  56. Jandy says:

    +many!

  57. Jandy says:

    nah…I like Snakes…don’t be insulting snakes!!!

  58. Jandy says:

    YIKES! What did you get yourself into, Laddie???

  59. tpbco says:

    Enjoyed Starkey’s column.

    I wonder if it will change the perception of this coaching/management staff to some of it’s critics?

  60. Jandy says:

    Now you’re asking for miracles ;)

  61. Jim S. says:

    Me, too. Wasn’t I scolded the other day for the mere mention that the team might be considering sending him down at some point for … ahem … $$$ and control reasons, and that this is a decision that MLB GM’s need to make all the time?

  62. JohninOshkosh says:

    Two most insufferable fan bases in all of sports.

    The haughtiness wafting out of Fenway Park will be able to be detected by NASA sensors on the space station.

  63. Jandy says:

    Jim, you got a BOLD REAMING for that!

  64. Jandy says:

    he!!, aliens from the next galaxy will sense it and stay away! ;)

  65. theplanisworking says:

    Its a response, guys. A response. ;)

  66. Jandy says:

    Baloney

    ;)

  67. tpbco says:

    I know, but somebody had to bring it up…

  68. Arriba Wilver says:

    Penguins 7

    Bylsma. 2

  69. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’ll watch the beginning of the games just so I can mock whatever American Idol flunkee Fox marches out to sing the anthem.

  70. Jim S. says:

    For Tomlin, please explain:

    * All the busts of high pick OLinemen, while castoffs seem to outproducing most of them.

    * The ever so curious decision to burn a 6th Rd. draft pick on Levi Brown, when there was almost universal belief that he was not starter-quality.

    * Isaac Redman being kept while Jonathan Dwyer was released, followed by the total reversal of that decision.

    You can be a starter one minute for this guy, and released the next. You can be released one minute, and fighting for starting time the next.

    His performance as coach is “below the line” at this point. He’s great at motivating a veteran-rich, talent laden roster. But, he’s apparently not so good when he doesn’t have the most talent in the league.

  71. theplanisworking says:

    They still have American Idol?

  72. Jim S. says:

    Don’t feel badly for the camels, plan. Hump day is the only pub they get. Look at the one on the commercial. He’s making a killing off this concept. :-)

  73. Dom says:

    I don’t think Tomlin is satisfied with special teams. He cut Redman to bring back Kion Wilson.

  74. Dom says:

    I think the Cards will win in 6.

  75. Dom says:

    St. Louis fans are obnoxious? I thought they were polite. I don’t believe they even booed the Buccos when they were announcing the lineups.

  76. JHadar says:

    Who knows what Dusty could do if he could use designated hitters.

  77. Jandy says:

    well said, Jim :)

  78. Jandy says:

    at least you can post here Dom :)

  79. JohninOshkosh says:

    I have been told by TV types that the driving force behind securing sports televising rights is for networks to have a platform to promote their programming, especially to young males.

    Fox is king. “Here to sing the anthem is Taylor Hicks!! Here to throw out the first pitch is Lea Michele! Why, look, Zooey Deschanel is in attendance tonight.”

  80. JHadar says:

    If the Cards blow the Red Sox away it’s going to be winter of “Oh, what might have been.”

  81. theplanisworking says:

    ++++

  82. theplanisworking says:

    Man, Grambling could be in an even bigger mess……….. attorneys involved. :(

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9864598/jackson-state-pursue-litigation-grambling-state-following-forfeit

  83. Jandy says:

    What Plan said :)

  84. theplanisworking says:

    Hahaha, funny stuff!

    But very, very true.

    PS— I dont mind Zooey Deschanel at all. ;)

  85. Jim S. says:

    I know, I know. I’m just having some fun. I promise. :-)

  86. JohninOshkosh says:

    Love Zooey Deschanel.

  87. Jim S. says:

    Clemente Humanitarian Award? Any idea when that one gets announced?

  88. Jandy says:

    So am I ;)

  89. Scott says:

    Am I the only one who finds it bizarre that only nine people get to vote for this NL Manager of the Year award? NINE!

    Hurdle should have been a slam dunk, but he only got 5 votes, while the Atlanta manager got 3. All the voters are other managers, so I guess the sample size will always be fairly small, but still… it’s crazy they would let such a prestigious award have a voting body so small that one or two oddball votes could completely mess up the results.

  90. Dom says:

    I dont believe the Cards will obtain a draft pick for Brown.

    The specifics of the contract was that Brown had to play a substantial amount of time before the Cards obtained a pick.

  91. Arriba Wilver says:

    Jim’s was a reaming. It had to do with baseball, remember?
    ;-)

  92. Jim S. says:

    I suppose National Boston Baked Beans Day is just around the corner as well. I used to hate getting those things at Halloween.

  93. What Jim, Planet Hippo and Jandy said.

  94. theplanisworking says:

    I dont see you clowns sticking up for buffaloes.
    They have humps too!!!!

  95. Jim S. says:

    There was an earthquake one year, and even that didn’t work. So, I’d say we are out of options.

  96. Jim S. says:

    8 days a weeeeek.

  97. We’re well on the way to that, JH. We get one hit and give them 3 in a home game to clinch. “Oh, what might have been.”

    Truly, it was a great season and we have a bright, long-term future, but the fact remains we had them on the ropes.

    :|

  98. Jim S. says:

    If it yields results. I thought calling the decision to make strategic changes “commendable” was a bit over the top. Doesn’t every organization alter its strategy when it is not getting the desired results?

  99. theplanisworking says:

    1992 SC Playoffs, Round 2……… Pens vs. Rangers.

    Lemieux and Mullen viciously hurt.
    Rangers up 2 games to 1.
    Rangers up 4 to 2 midway thru 3rd period.
    Pens come back to win game in overtime.
    Pens win series 4-2.

    Mark Messier interviewed……… asked about having the Pens on the ropes.

    “When that happens, you have to knock them out. We didn’t do that. Great teams find a way to come back. On the ropes means nothing now.”

    Always reminded of that interview.

  100. Jim S. says:

    I wasn’t aware of that, Dom. Thanks! I knew we could dump him after the season with no further obligation. But, I didn’t know he needed to play a substantial amount of the time. So, I would say his injury was “fortunate” for the team because he was going to get that substantial time otherwise.

  101. Jandy says:

    Oh Man I so remember that! :)

  102. Many boxing matches, too. Some can’t finish.

    We’ll be back.

  103. Jim S. says:

    I believe I alluded to a possible comparison between these decisions for both sports.

    I inadvertently touched the 3rd rail.

  104. Dom says:

    Also, didn’t the Steelers run with an extra Olineman on Sunday? Or maybe I’m thinking that Adams was lining up as a TE. If so, I wonder if Tomlin feels this will become an every game thing till the end of the season.

  105. Jandy says:

    Here’s a link Jim. Says it’s awarded during the World Series.

  106. Jandy says:

    be back in a bit….be good Loonies ;)

  107. Jim S. says:

    That was so long ago, even the Bucs were good.

  108. There is no such thing as a response. DK can’t get off that easy.

    They are reamings!

    :)

  109. BillyBaduka says:

    Big +

  110. BillyBaduka says:

    From what I have read that Portland team is a free wheeling offensive program.

  111. BillyBaduka says:

    LOL, that is definitely true in IT.

  112. Jim S. says:

    Is it just me, or do OLinemen get injured way more than they used to? Gilbert and Beachum were added to the injury list this week. Pouncey and Brown are out for the season. Etc., etc. Very few of them ever seem to make it through an entire season.

    Is this just a phenomenon with the Steelers? It seems pretty universal to me, and it has been getting worse each year.

    Is it simply because of the size of these guys now? Maybe it is tougher to keep a 350 lb body that has no earthly reason for being 350 lb other than as an NFL lineman healthy than a 285 lb. body.

    Is there some other reason? It seems to me that whatever benefits the added weight brings, it brings even larger problems due to all the missed time.

  113. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think it’s fair. There are a million “Bylsma is too stubborn to change” comments. And the easy answer in sports is sometimes to just clean house. I have no problem with it. It’s not like he awarded them the Nobel Prize. (Or are you just seeking another bold reaming? If so, you should have compared it to Nutting’s “investigation.”). ;-)

  114. Jim S. says:

    Does seem like a pretty narrow way of making that decision, Scott.

  115. Jandy says:

    LOL! I preferred the Lemon Heads ;)

  116. Jim S. says:

    Hahaha!

    I don’t dispute that they did a thorough investigation and made a lot of big changes. I actually like what that says about Bylsma’s humility. He doesn’t take himself so seriously that he thinks he is beyond criticism or introspection.

    I just think it is part of the job of being a coach or manager, or anyone in a leadership position to be constantly challenging him or herself to improve. If he isn’t doing that sort of analysis every season that ends in a disappointing fashion, I would be wondering why.

  117. Jim S. says:

    Yes. I believe they make Lemonheads here in Chicago. I still hear their commercials occasionally on radio.

  118. Milo Hamilton says:

    If the Cardinals win the World Series they should vote Arte Moreno a full share. It’s the least they could do.

  119. toochca says:

    ++++ Very true Milo!!

  120. Arriba Wilver says:

    +1

  121. Arriba Wilver says:

    Smize has a nice article on Leyland in the “other paper.”

    DK: How much will it cost me to read it? :)

  122. tpbco says:

    I do agree with you, but also recognize that this was a team that made it to The ECFs. A lot of “investigation” relative to that.

    That is what it takes to get to the next level.

    Now the players gotta play or it is for naught.

  123. pattonbb says:

    I agree.

    You could say the same about the Red Sox and their deals with the Dodgers. There’s no way the Sox sign Shane Victorino, Mike Napoli, Koji Uehara, or Jonny Gomes without LA eating all of those other contracts.

  124. toochca says:

    Did he “write” the article or just link to another source?

    DK: If it’s a link to an article about the last time Leyland was relevant in Pittsburgh, it’ll take you straight to some library’s microfilm.

  125. tpbco says:

    Also, the pick was not next’s years, but a future pick, which is gone now.

    Interestingly, the stud that Arizona replaced Jones with was named by Peter King (SI) as one of the goats of the week after giving up 3 sacks, 3 hits and 5 pressures.

    Wonder if they are still laughing?

  126. Jandy says:

    LOL! Yinz are all killing me!

  127. Jandy says:

    You tell ‘em Revvie!!!!

  128. Jandy says:

    Yeah, so??

    :P

  129. tpbco says:

    Not just the Steelers…Denver lost both starting OTs and have been going downhill ever since…bad game against the jags and lost to the colts…Peyton getting hit more.

    The load at 300+++ pds is too much, human body not designed for it. Especially when you see muscle tears.

    While the blocking schemes are taking out Dlineman, the Dlineman are also taking out pulling Olinemen. League only cares about the skill positions.

  130. Jim S. says:

    Wacha for Pujols, who seemingly at the very instant they got rid of him became very ordinary. Nice swap for the Cards.

  131. Arriba Wilver says:

    I had heard it was all pay, but it just came up when I was googling something else. I don’t know what’s going on over there, but Smize did a nice job.

  132. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, it is an epidemic. You need about 8 or 10 good ones to get through a season successfully these days.

  133. Jim S. says:

    I’m assuming the decision was above Smize’s paygrade. But, an odd one that likely won’t work.

  134. Arriba Wilver says:

    My, my.

  135. hockeymonster says:

    If only someone would’ve suggested those changes sooner…

  136. NMR says:

    Only the Cardinals organization could somehow get credit for offering Pujols a 10 year $200m+ contract not once, but twice. Biggest myth in baseball is that the Cards were “smart” about the Pujols situation.

  137. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    It’s a whole new concept…..Pay AND be deleted.
    The wave of the future….

  138. Arriba Wilver says:

    :-D

  139. AL says:

    Just sitting here wondering if DK thinks Edmonton is still the ideal trading partner for the Penguins. One team loaded with young defensemen; the other loaded with young forwards.

  140. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I found Butler to be horrible too.
    He left the Steelers in all kinds of field position jams last year.
    Mesko has a better name, but he is currently giving Butler a run for his money.
    Per Tomlin’s PC statement……I don’t look for him to be around alot longer if he doesn’t improve soon.

  141. Arriba Wilver says:

    It’s really an historical piece from someone who was there, and covers more than Leyland. I found it interesting and well done.

  142. Arriba Wilver says:

    And it didn’t cost me a nickel to read it.

  143. hockeymonster says:

    Thanks for pat on the back arriba…was worried no one noticed :)

  144. JohninOshkosh says:

    The Penguins have a 10 point lead over the Rangers and a 12 point lead over the Flyers in the Metropolitan Division.

    There are still 8 days left until November.

  145. Jandy says:

    It’s a long season :)

  146. JohninOshkosh says:

    It’s a marathon, not a sprint. (Just for you, Lucky).

  147. JHadar says:

    I thought the Sporting News voters were the NL managers.

  148. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    4-3 Tampa 2

  149. SeanAY says:

    I have no problem with a paper taking the pay-to-read model on the internet. Journalists need to be paid, and why would people pay for the cow if milk is free?

    Newspapers can’t do more with less, as far as revenue goes. All you can do with less is less.

  150. Arriba Wilver says:

    People get married all the time.

  151. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    You’re right. They got outbid. Not like they let him walk, they just didn’t match the Angels offer.

    It did work out very nicely for them however.

  152. Jandy says:

    ZING!

  153. Jim S. says:

    Glad they are in our division. :-)

  154. The Gunner says:

    Crusty Baker will be a huge downgrade to James Leyland in Detroit.

    Let’s hope no one hires the jerk.

  155. Jim S. says:

    I don’t have any problem with them doing it. But, that doesn’t mean I will pay for it. It is up to them to make it work financially. They also generate ad revenue on-line.

  156. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Hey Coach Tomlin, have you ever thought about some theme music when you walk in to the interview room?

    I’m thinking something from the 70′s. Like “shaft”

    Just kidding of course…but he does have that 70′s theme swagger about him.

  157. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I myself, am tired of the Jim Leyland’s a God approach.

    I still see him as a quiter. Just my opinion though.

  158. Jim S. says:

    I actually think they knew what it would take to sign him, then offered a substantial amount of money that was still nowhere near what he wanted. They did not want him, but they didn’t want to look like the bad guys to fans who had loyalty to him.

    I think they played it very shrewdly.

  159. Jim S. says:

    The point is, they wanted to be outbid. That’s my take, although I recognize there is some debate about how much, if at all, they wanted him back.

  160. Arriba Wilver says:

    Did you read it, Ryan?

  161. Jim S. says:

    I’m noticing late, monster. But, noticing.

  162. Jim S. says:

    He’s really good. But, it would be nice if he didn’t figure so prominently in our scoring every week lately.

  163. JohninOshkosh says:

    On he lighter side like this, I would ask him if he ever laughs.

    From the great George Costanza:

    GEORGE: (Showing Jerry up) Listen carefully. My mother has never laughed. Ever. Not a giggle, not a chuckle, not a tee-hee.. never went ‘Ha!’

    JERRY: A smirk?

    GEORGE: Maybe!.

  164. Jim S. says:

    And, I’m definitely on the record as not being in “hero worship” mode when it comes to the Cardinals. I think Mozielak is reading too many of his own press clippings these days. He is now the “go to” authority that comments for the press on everything every other organization does. No matter how good a team drafts, there is still a great deal of guesswork involved in almost every pick. I’m guessing he won’t continue to have the best draft year in and year out for very long. He’s not the smartest baseball person who ever lived.

  165. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Pretty sure the award goes to each league….like all the others.

  166. The Gunner says:

    Tomlin’s a real treat these days. And, we will have the pleasure of his coaching thru 2016, when his contract expires.

    When the going gets tough, you see what a person is made of by how he handles it. Personally, I think he is starting to “lose” it. How about his comments yesterday at the close of the press conference?

  167. Jandy says:

    I agree…but thank goodness he’s saved the Steelers so much.

  168. Jandy says:

    my thoughts exactly.

  169. Jandy says:

    I read it. The site let me in. Didn’t ask for my nickel, either. However, the site wouldn’t close. I had to use my program manager to close it down lol.

    BUT…AW is right, it’s an excellent read.

  170. NMR says:

    Except that they were outbid. By the Marlins. Before increasing their second offer. Which was then beaten out of nowhere by the Angels.

    So I guess in order to save face one is required to be outbid twice?

  171. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Not at all. I haven’t read his stuff in a couple of years. Not a fan.

    I was just thinking out loud.

  172. NMR says:

    How many people get their newspaper for free?

    Why should the online version be any different?

  173. Jandy says:

    nah….the second time is just the icing on the cake ;)

  174. NMR says:

    Sometimes better to be lucky than good, Ryan.

  175. Jandy says:

    “I was just thinking out loud.”

    So, THAT’S what that noise was…

    :fleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:

  176. Damon says:

    Thinking out loud….it’s possible in a week all the Pens could be back in the line up (other than Neal). That means there are a bunch of fringe players that either need to be released, traded or sent down to get to 23 players. When healthy, the players who are locks on the lines are:
    14-87-9 58-4
    36-71-18 7-44
    #-16-19 2-3/41
    15-#-27
    So that leaves 46-Vitale, 22-D’Agostini, 12-Kobasew, 23-Conner, 39-Zolnierczyk, 17-Jefferey, 5-Engelland to fill 4 spots to get to 23 (if they want 23 on the NHL club). I am guessing 23, 39 & 17 are sent down and see if they clear waivers, 22 & 12 split time as the RW/LW on the 3rd line, and 46 is the 4th line center. 5 should never get in unless there is another injury – he could get a game here and there at 4th line wing. I just wonder if all that keeps them under the cap…

  177. Jason says:

    Maata was paired with Niskanen in today’s practice. Letang with Scuds, and Bortuzzo with Engelland. What are the options if Maata is kept: Bortuzzo kept, Engelland waived/traded? Vice Versa?

  178. Jason says:

    Jeffrey needs a fresh start somewhere.

  179. Damon says:

    Rob Rossi was saying on the X this morning that he had heard they were listening to offers for Engelland, but you just never know with Shero. He likes to keep things super tight to his vest. They may keep 8 Dman for awhile and stay at 23 players until they figure out what to do – and maybe see if there are any other injuries. Also they may consider Engelland as a D/RW in reserve and not just a Dman.

  180. Jim S. says:

    Bloomberg’s estimates of MLB team values.

    http://t.co/QIqw1DdPAb

    I hope you can open it.

  181. Jandy says:

    Yanks 3.280M
    Bucs 610M

    that’s wild
    lol

  182. Jandy says:

    Treat? is that jerky treat? ;)

  183. Jim S. says:

    We’re making our way up the list.

  184. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    that’s all I do is make some noise…usually sounds like a bowling alley.

  185. Jandy says:

    Well, there are 7 teams lower than us ;)

  186. Jandy says:

    ahem…that’s BLOWING alley! LOL

  187. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    didnt see any of it.

    “We play to win the game!” or more of the “they were who they thought they were………and we let em off the hook!”

    “playoffs……..you wanna talk playoffs” “didily poo”

    Jim Mora’s were my favorites.

  188. Scott says:

    That is correct.

  189. theplanisworking says:

    You know, Harrison and Clark both said that injuries would be more frequent, and more severe when they started legislating hits a few years ago. Just look at all the injuries so far this year.

    Players are going low, to avoid penalties and suspensions for hitting high……. linemen are getting injured more also due to cutback blocks…….

    I think harrison and Clark were right.

  190. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Probably need a B at the end of the Yankees one Jandy….

    I’m here to help

  191. Jandy says:

    Now that you mention it, I do remember that too…nice, Hipposter…you have a good memory

  192. Jandy says:

    Nope,. I copied it right from the site, and it’s right…it’s 3.280M meaning 3billion 280 million. Just how they listed it. Weird, but correct.

  193. Jim S. says:

    It’s not a fairness issue. Of course, they have a right to charge for their product. All that really matters is whether the consumer wants to pay what they are asking, just like for any other product.

  194. Jandy says:

    But yeah…some days I need all the help I can get ;)
    (And most of you guys come thru for me) :D

  195. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    What’s a newspaper?

  196. Jandy says:

    Obviously …

  197. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    hey now….i’m not that type of guy.

    oh I get it……..

  198. Jandy says:

    I wonder if Lawrence Timmons can play hockey?

  199. Jandy says:

    LOL! I’ll NEVER forget that typo of mine as long as I live LOL!

  200. Jim S. says:

    I don’t always believe what I read. It could have definitely happened that way, I guess. I know people in St. Louis who say they know for a fact that the Cardinals didn’t feel like keeping Albert for anywhere near what he eventually got. So, they decided they were better off letting him go. But, they had to make a legit offer. If he had taken their offer, they would have kept him, of course – but at a number they could live with. But, I think they were relieved when they were outbid.

    That’s just my opinion. I could be wrong. Maybe they did want him, and had to bow out when the Angels bid crazy high. Either way, they ended up smelling like roses.

  201. Jim S. says:

    That is a good point. A lot of guys are saying players are putting themselves in awkward positions in trying to avoid penalties.

  202. Jim S. says:

    I don’t know, but If he played baseball right now, he’d have to wear Marte’s oven mitt on his hand when he got on base.

  203. theplanisworking says:

    Then please explain why I simply cannot remember what I had for dinner Sunday?

    ;)

  204. Jandy says:

    it must have been a boring meal ;)
    LOL!

  205. theplanisworking says:

    Good point, Jim.

    I see a lot of players targeting low. Where are the fines for that?

    Goodell is a complete joke on this player safety thing. Cant hit the head, but if you are an offensive lineman, its ok. Depending where on the field of play you are, you are either “defenseless”, or not. Why does it matter where you are?

    Smh.

  206. theplanisworking says:

    I dont have any problem with it either. Their decision.

    But, when going to all-pay, they should eliminate those blaring ads set on autoplay. Banners at the bottom of the screen, which reduces your readable window to an inch or so.

    It is the job of the paper to make it reader-friendly. If they dont, they can charge all they want to, people just wont purchase it.

  207. theplanisworking says:

    Daq,

    I ventured over there to read it. It was a nice piece……….. didnt ever think old cranky-pants had it in him to write something positive about anybody.

    No one was deleted because when I went over, there were no comments. Mere technicality, I know but…………….

  208. tpbco says:

    To get a fresh start…wouldn’t he have actually, you know started at some point?

  209. theplanisworking says:

    Jandy, can you direct me to the Church built in Jim Leyland’s honor?? After all, Leyland is a God. Maybe Lucky can minister there???

    There is a small, but vocal part of Pittsburgh’s fanbase that loves to hate former successful coaches/managers. Leyland, and Cowher come immediately to mind. Dont know why it happens, but it happens.

  210. Jandy says:

    LOL I hear ya Hipposter. I personally like Leyland. Some don’t. To each their own, I guess.
    :D

  211. theplanisworking says:

    Hi Coach!!!!!

  212. Jandy says:

    OK I have a dentist appointment in 15 minutes. Right down the road from the office. Very convenient.
    Just one small filling. Then good until next year :)
    Yinz be good, hear?

  213. Jandy says:

    LOL He’s tough like a hockey player. I’d love to see him try to skate LOL

  214. Jim S. says:

    I don’t know why the Bloomberg piece linked to that page of team values. When I open it on my end, it has a wheel that shows all of the team logos. You click on a logo and not only does it show you the team’s overall value, but it also shows:

    Total team revenue
    Gate receipts
    Concessions
    Sponsorship rights
    Media rights
    Parking
    Revenue sharing receipts or contribution

    When you compare the Bucs to each of the other teams in our division, we still lag behind. Just in overall revenue, our division looks like this:

    Cubs – $320M
    Cards – $250M
    Brewers/Reds – $205M
    Bucs – $185M

    I don’t know whether that includes playoff revenue or not.

    If someone else has a better link, I think it is worth seeing. FWIW, NYY overall revenue was $570M. Bosox was $405M. Having a regional sports network that is paying you big $$ is huge.

  215. theplanisworking says:

    Only the Cubs have a bigger market than the Pirates.
    Yet Pirates in last place.
    You tell me why that is.

  216. tpbco says:

    I owuld think that they wouldn’t get a whole lot for Engelland. On top of that, he does have value to the Pens as the reseerve you mentioned.

    I could see Nisky traded, Bortuzzo traded and/or Maata being sent down.

    My personal prefence is try to trade Nisky (value likely won’t be higher) and send Maata down – not popular, but the right decision. He could be captain in London, play the big minutes and the important minutes on the PP and PK. He is not going to get those with the big club and he needs those on his tool belt. It would be an absolute waste to have him have 8-10 minutes TOI, with just the last seconds on the specialty teams , if that.

    Plenty of talent at WS in case of injuries.

  217. tpbco says:

    I dunno, but that is just is more fuel on the fire for this offseason being THE most important offseason in….oh 21 years.

    We’ll find out, as they say, where the bum hid the money…or not.

  218. Jim S. says:

    Hopefully, it won’t stay that way.

    But, each of those teams outdrew the Bucs. So, they had higher gate receipts, and sold more food. But, they also have a higher franchise value, so they probably command more in radio rights and sponsorships. It has been chronicled by DK and others in the past that our local TV contract is still anemic. I believe that is on the team to “squeeze” their local partners for a better deal. I don’t know whether they can do that or not.

    I would expect the Bucs to have a guaranteed pre-season attendance of 2.4 million or so next year – and, at a higher $$ per ticket. If they have a good season next year, attendance could spike late in the year again, to maybe 2.7 or 2.7 million. Every revenue stream should increase. But, I think they have work to do on their end. Local TV is one area, for sure.

  219. 21sthebest says:

    Jim, all of those financial numbers are Bloomberg’s guesstimates.

  220. tpbco says:

    I woudda pat you on the back, but your arm was in the way….

  221. Jim S. says:

    Meant “spike to 2.6 or 2.7 million.”

  222. Jim S. says:

    Agreed. I didn’t mean to pass them off as Gospel. In fact, my very first line of my first post was “Bloomberg’s estimates.”

  223. 21sthebest says:

    Oh sorry but I read that as the valuation was an estimate as opposed to the financial data.

    FYI, after the actual financial statements were leaked in 2010 for 5 franchises, I compared them to what Forbes published for those years. Forbes got some numbers close but overall I’d say they were reasonably accurate about half the time.

  224. SeanAY says:

    That’s true, Jim.

    What I find funny is when people refuse to pay for news because its free on the web…and then wonder why papers are forced to lay off staff, cut down delivery, and end up missing “important” stories.

    Check out what happened in Kalamazoo when you get a chance. Our paper is a joke now. Positions are cut and never re-hired. Readership complains and stops buying papers. Revenues dip further. The snake eats its own tail.

  225. Kevin says:

    where was Martin? Is he hurt?

  226. Jim S. says:

    Actually, the team values are estimates. I believe they have actual revenues for a lot of the categories.

  227. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t know how Bloomberg would have gotten those numbers.

  228. Arriba Wilver says:

    Guaranteed pre-season of 2.4 million seems pretty optimistic if you mean pre-season ticket sales

  229. Damon says:

    Playing devil’s advocate – since Orpik and Niskanen are on the last year of their contract and probably not coming back, wouldn’t it be good to have Maata get NHL experience – break in easy – to be fully prepared for next year?

    I do agree with trading Niskanen because several teams would see him as a puck moving Dman that can play the PP point, and the Pens could look for a back up goalie back, prospect or draft pick (since they are looking to shed salary as well).

  230. Damon says:

    Martin and Orpik are the other pair

  231. Jim S. says:

    Some of them are from revenue sharing and national contracts. So, those should be pretty accurate.

    Not sure if they estimate things like gate receipts and concessions based on averages.

  232. Jim S. says:

    Could be. I think they knew they were in the 2 million range when this season started, right? I would hope they have generated enough excitement to pre-sell an average of close to 30k per game. Maybe it is 2.2M? I’m just guessing.

  233. Arriba Wilver says:

    No, not on pre-season sales. They may have estimated that before last year based on pre-season sales and averages from the past, but it was no “guarantee, ” I don’t think. The only guarantee is sold tickets. If they stink, the averages go out the window.

  234. theplanisworking says:

    I posted earlier this year that ticket sales (and their revenues) are a red herring.

    Say Cinci draws 2.6 million people.
    The Bucs draw 2.2 million people.
    400,000 difference.

    The average ticket price is 24 dollars in Cinci, 19 dollars here.

    400,000 x $5 == $2 million dollars.
    I understand I over-simplified it, but unless we are talking a million fan difference, at say $20 price difference (aka Bos/NY/LA) the ticket dollars arent much.

    TV, radio, sponsorships, etc are the real drivers.
    Oh, and having competent people in said positions helps too.

  235. Arriba Wilver says:

    What “said positions” are you referring to?

  236. NMR says:

    Just so I’m clear, your inside sources said they could live with giving him the $220m they offered?

  237. theplanisworking says:

    Take your pick of many, AW.

    Head of marketing.
    Head of ticket sales.
    Head of corporate sponsorships.

    And, since I was told previously that the team President was responsible for all those positions, I guess we have to include Mr. Coonelly also. Not my choice, but that was what I was told previously.

  238. Jim S. says:

    To your point, plan, per the Bloomberg article:

    Gate receipts:

    Cubs – $128M
    Cards – $105M
    Brewers – $64M
    Reds – $54M
    Bucs – $39M

    Now, I don’t know, for certain, if those are 2012 or 2013. I’d have to dig deeper.

    But, I think your math is wrong on your example of Reds vs. Bucs. The Reds would not just be getting an extra $5 per ticket for the difference in ticket sales between the two teams. The actual comparison would be:

    2.6 x 24 = $62.4M
    2.2 x 19 = $41.8M

    That’s actually over $20 million.

  239. Arriba Wilver says:

    Winning helps more, as we saw this year and last year.

    I have a hard time blaming the guys/girls you mentioned, other than FC, but he has way more control.

    Should have just left out the competency part, IMHO.

    Winning is the answer. I think the lower guys you mentioned have actually done a pretty decent job with what they had to work with.

  240. theplanisworking says:

    Jim, you know I am not good at math!!!

    Good point, but that still doesnt cover the difference in team values. It does explain the gap in ticket revenues.

    Thanks……….. I might have to have you tutor me…. ;)

  241. TCB says:

    Plan,
    Don’t mean to quibble but, wouldn’t the actual difference caculation be:
    Actual ticket sold price difference: 2,200,000 x $5.00 = 11,000,000

    Addiional tickets sold: 400,000 x $19.00 = 7,600,000.

    Total revenue difference for attendance = $18,600,000.

  242. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, I’m sure you are right, Arriba. When I heard 2 million+ early in the season, I’m sure they were using some sort of a season long buying model.

    I think they were at 1.5 at most when the season started. Even that might be generous. Still, I would not be surprised if that spiked to 2 million next pre-season. I believe demand is at an all-time high.

  243. theplanisworking says:

    Oh, I wasnt blaming.
    Just using a reference point. I will say that having a good person in those jobs is better than haing a bad person in those jobs……….

    And I agree winning helps rise all boats. I also agree Mr. Coonelly has to bear the final responsibility on $$$ matters…….. like the TV deal.

  244. Jim S. says:

    No worries, plan. I am in agreement with you that the Bucs lag the others in the division in pretty much all revenue streams, if the Bloomberg data is fairly accurate.

  245. theplanisworking says:

    No quibbling at all.

    In my oversimplification, and my poor math skills, both you and Jim are correct.

    Next time, I will stick to food posts……….. ;)

  246. Arriba Wilver says:

    Good is definitely better than bad. But I’m still confused, are you saying they were good or bad, or you don’t know?

  247. tpbco says:

    That would be an option, but there (according to reports) are 3 or 4 guys in WB/S that the same thing could be said of and depending on who and what you believe Depres is ready willing an able and already has some of that experience. The reports sometimes conflict, but the last I read was that things were going well for him down there.

    I still am of the belief that the success of this season is not dependent on the decision about Maata….either way. If that’s the case – send him down, keep his clock from starting and let him get the big and important minutes he will not get in the NHL.

    However, if you DO think that the success of this season is dependent on Maata staying…I would sumbit the Pens are in big trouble.

    JMO

  248. theplanisworking says:

    Overall, I just dont know specifically about the Pirates employees.
    I will repeat that generally, competent people are needed for that success.

    Being the Pirates lag in every revenue area, I feel it is a fair question. Not blaming or criticizing.

  249. tpbco says:

    That would be submit…sumbitch.

  250. Dave G says:

    (I got this one, Jandy…)

    ZING!

  251. Kevin says:

    ah hah, I forgot Orpik

  252. Jim S. says:

    It is sad what has happened, Sean. On-line is more convenient, and it has killed home delivery I think. I agree with you that at some point, if the ad revenues from on-line are not enough to sustain it, a site either needs to charge people or go the way of the dodo.

    Hopefully, for this site, the increase in traffic is increasing the ad revenue enough that it won’t go the pay route.

    Newspapers are faced with remaking themselves in this new digital age – same as in a lot of other industries. They end up with shorter writer staffs. But, the folks who survive should be the best of the best.

  253. Jim S. says:

    Something you find on the internet, more and more. :-)

  254. tpbco says:

    JMO, but those who hate on Leyland for quitting, should be questioning why it happened. Was in Colorado when it happened there and the scuttlebut was that management reniged on some promises. That appears to be what happened in Florida and its was certainly going on in the ‘burgh before he left.

    Don’t ask me to captain the ship, if after I sign on…you pull the plug on it.

  255. theplanisworking says:

    + many.

  256. hockeymonster says:

    Ha…thanks…good one tpbco :)

  257. Milo Hamilton says:

    Does anyone know if they have a mercy rule in Texas ? The game I had 2 weeks ago was 52-0 at halftime. Thanks to the mercy rule, there were only 34 offensive plays total in the 2nd half and there were only 5 total possessions. It ended 59-7.

  258. theplanisworking says:

    I dont know if they do.
    I read earlier this week, in this particular game, after halftime both coaches agreed to the continuously running clock, fair catch on all kicks/punts, etc.

    I guess the only thing else that coach could have done was to take a knee on every play? Then, how does he go to the players on the 3rd string and tell them they dont deserve to get their chance?

  259. Milo Hamilton says:

    I was just trying to reconcile the time factor. It’s really hard to score that many points with a running clock. No Plan, I’m not one of those take a knee so as to not rub it in guys. I think that’s more embarrassing. Western Hills must be historically awful.

  260. theplanisworking says:

    I think I read somewhere, that they scored on 3 straight running plays……. fairly quickly. And, if field position was in play, well………

    Sometimes these things just happen. Nobody’s fault. Not like they (Western Hills) played with only 9 players……

    You have been around high school sports a long time, what do you make of all this?

  261. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Sorry, yet again proving that I am not a numbers guy.

  262. Milo Hamilton says:

    Just did some quick homework. Western Hills dresses 3 seniors. Aledo has 34. Ouch.

  263. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    I’m kind of curious as to who is good without having the most talent in the league?

  264. Milo Hamilton says:

    The bullying thing is just ridiculous. What ever happened to the days when the guy that lost 91-0 was the one in trouble ?

  265. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Understand why it happened or why he left. Still doesn’t mean I have to like it.

    Plan, so now you feel like responding to me via Jandy?

    cool. Please continue.

  266. tpbco says:

    One of my favorites.

    Feel free to use as needed.

  267. Jim S. says:

    That’ll do it.

  268. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    Ha! True statement.

  269. Jim S. says:

    If you are on a soup only diet beginnng tomorrow, we’ll know it didn’t go as well as planned. :-)

  270. Jim S. says:

    I don’t have inside sources. Just a couple of friends from there who don’t know one another, but nonetheless gave me the same take on things.

    I just think the Cards did not want him back all that much, but they were willing to offer a pretty decent chunk of money to appease the fan base. If he had accepted, they were willing to live with it. But, I also think they were pretty shrewd in projecting they would be outbid, and it worked out.

  271. Jim S. says:

    Unfortunately, and sadly, I think those days are gone forever.

  272. tpbco says:

    Live in Texas, only 4 years – don’t know but starting to understand the high school football psychology. Enormous differences betwen the haves and havenots. they are trying to build a 40,000 seat HS (only) stadium in the little ‘burb I live in.

    Really doubt there is a mercy rule. I’ve seen some pretty wild scores. HS basketball is even worse.

  273. Nor Cal Stlrfanrtc (Ryan) says:

    My son’s freshman team was up 41-6 at the half last week and his coach continued to go for a onside or squib type kick. Didnt really change his game plan much either until about the 4th quarter, final score was 60something to 20something.

    they went to just running plays in the 4th, even gave the center an opportunity to run the ball. He’s not your typical center, he’s also the MLB.

  274. BillyBaduka says:

    I think some of it is techniques but it is primarily that the tendons/ligaments/joints are not meant to support this kind of weight.

    There was a great article about this a month or so ago that JAL had a link to. I think it was in ‘Behind the Steel Curtain’ website. Guy had a lot of statistics following player size by position over last 40 years. Not surprisingly, OL increased the most with DL second. There was some good analysis too that showed how much force a knee is under which is exponentially greater than the player’s weight.

  275. DJ says:

    On Monday, Bylsma stated that, contrary to reports, they had not yet decided on Maata and would take until Friday, before Maata plays his 10th game, to make the decision.

  276. DJ says:

    Not saying Matta cannot improve his skating but I’ve watched every game — some on the tube and others live — and I think Maata’s skating has been very good overall.

    His hip turn, in particular, is excellent.

  277. DJ says:

    I think their last game was 7-1 so I assume they’re playing defense as well.

  278. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Maybe all the comments were deleted!…lol!

 
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