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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> The Monday column applauds the Pitt basketball team’s 7-0 start by way of asking a question: Is it possible they benefited from Steven Adams leaving?

Would love to hear your views on this.

Here’s freshman forward Michael Young yesterday after practice when I asked how this group’s come together …

This column was intended, by the way, as a companion to the Sunday column on Duquesne and Jim Ferry that I hope you had a chance to catch.

It would be amazing for the city to have two top programs, not one.

Random randomness from the scene: Pitt’s got a challenge in Penn State tomorrow night, beyond the fact that the visiting Nittany Lions are 6-2 in the early going. Penn State’s ranked 10th in the nation in assists-to-turnovers, compared to Pitt’s fifth, which means the standard steal count might be an issue for the Panthers. “That’s what you have when facing an experienced team, and Penn State is that,” Jamie Dixon replied when I brought that up yesterday after practice. “You can kind of say that about our team, too, at least in terms of maturity.” … The height of Pitt’s guards is prompting all kinds of new wrinkles to Dixon’s plan. “We like to get after the ball, no question,” Durand Johnson said. “We all feel like we can do more than just shoot.” … Remember Ryan Luther, the 6-8 guard out of Hampton, who at the last minute picked Pitt over Duquesne and other schools that had been on him for months? Well, Dixon tells me Luther is 6-9 now and “still growing,” which has the Pitt staff giddy. They really like him. … That game tomorrow will be on ESPNU, as well as the online ESPN3. … Nothing quite like walking the wrong way through the tunnel when a Suzie McConnell-Serio team just has a tough loss. Wow, did the Pitt women take losing to Buffalo hard. And really, they should have. Suzie has plenty of work ahead. She was left quite a mess by Agnus Berenato.

Also, Lamar Patterson is profiled today by our Pitt hoops beat writer Kevin Gorman, and by our sports cover designer Frank Verdecchia

>> The Mike Tomlin sideline saga is covered by Alan Robinson.

I’ve already expressed how little I think about that as an issue, but I still had a bit of fun by asking Dixon — who practically lives in the field of play with all his time on the actual court — what he thought about it.

Here’s our weekly Steelers Film Session, by Mark Kaboly.

Here’s our full Steelers coverage.

Here’s Dolphins news from the Miami Herald.

Here are official game highlights from

>> The Penguins might not have a checking line, but they’ve still managed to keep their emotions in check, writes Josh Yohe in Sunrise.

Chris Kunitz in Sochi? Rob Rossi thinks so.

Here’s our full Penguins coverage.

Here’s Islanders news from Newsday.

Here are official game highlights from

>> Christian Hackenberg is Penn State football, by Chris Adamski. What a performance Saturday in Madison, for the freshman QB and by the indomitable Bill O’Brien.

>> Pitt’s bowl hopes are examined on Jerry DiPaola’s blog.

>> Michael McKenry hopes to return to the Pirates, by Travis Sawchik.

>> Back to the dentist for me today. If I emerge alive, I’ll give a shout.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Eric Bowser says:

    * I’ve admittedly seen very little action from PITT, so I can’t fairly assess their 7-0 start to that of other Panthers teams but I am at least hopeful to see more of it based on the descriptions I’m reading.

    * Someone care to tell the fine people over on Federal Street the baseball offseason has started and St. Louis is already re-loading for 2014. Pirates need an outfielder that can push Jose Tabata for time in right-field until Gregory Polanco has earned his way to the majors, which should be sometime June. Then there’s first base, Gaby Sanchez as a full-time starter, no thanks. Finally, a starting pitcher would be nice and A.J. Burnett should be that guy… time to make a decision A.J. or nice knowing you.

    * I can’t get excited nor agree with those on Twitter and elsewhere thumping their chest with vigor as goaltender Jeff Zatkoff backstopped the Penguins to a 5-1 victory against the lowly Florida Panthers. It was the directionless Panthers, not the Boston Bruins.

    * Must admit, Engelland probably played his best game as an NHL defensemen against those same Panthers. Maybe by him playing with Orpik, it will settle down the alternate captain and get him to stop trying to throw big hits in the worst game situations.

    * Simon Despres is playing good, it is ok for a few people to recognize that, namely some in the local media and the bloggers that don’t really understand the game but get the hits because they have fancy web designs and cute pictures. The Pens record with Despres and without speaks for itself but I guess for some, it won’t. He’s a mobile defenseman with ok size and skills learning to be a really good positional defenseman. I seem to recall more than a few (me included) that wanted Paul Martin out of Pittsburgh, so maybe a few of us should wait to see Despres in action.

    * What I know to be the truth, this team has crap for depth at forward. Yes, I know they are without Beau Bennett, Tanner Glass and Chuck Kobasew but when the best you have is Jayson Megna, Chris Conner, and Andrew Ebbett, you’ve got problems.

    * I keep reading Twitter comments, from people that really should know better, that the Penguins should trade a defenseman in the minors to acquire a winger for Sid or third liner. I guess that thing called a salary cap still hasn’t invaded the thinking of the hockey rumor mill. The Pens will need to dump salary in order to get what they need and I doubt many teams want to help make that happen or what lengths in terms of creativity Shero will need to go to make it happen.

    * Though salary cap wouldn’t be a huge problem if they had made the right decision to trade Kris Letang for a number one pick, a top six forward, and some other cheap player/prospect. I guess it could steal happen with the limited trade clause Letang got from the Penguins.

    * The Evgeni Malkin that has been playing for the last 3 weeks is unstoppable and the guy who is the best player in the world. Can’t wait to watch Crosby vs Malkin on the scoring sheet and come the Olympics (Canada vs Russia) in February.

    * Steelers have a prayer but can we finally accept reality, it ain’t happening. Not with THAT offensive line, starting RB concussed, number two WR with a case of the dropsies, and a secondary that can’t cover anyone, even with increased pressure from Jason Worilds at left outside linebacker.

    * Mike Tomlin pulled quite the stunt on Thursday night, glad I missed that whole game and only got to see and read about his pathetic “who me?” moment on national television. It was lame and should get him fined, accident or no accident.

    * Any talk of suspension or draft picks is insane. Fine him $250,000 and team $250,000. Do this so it never happens again….

  2. Lad 9 says:

    Interesting perspective on the Adams departure DK. My first instinct was to scoff at the notion, but then I started to think that maybe there is something to it. Wright and Patterson probably do not take those monster steps up, and for sure Durand Johnson isn’t bringing the ball inside off the bounce with Adams in the paint. He could just hang at the three point line and wait for the inside out feed from the unselfish big man.

    Still, I think not having Adams could hurt later on when Pitt runs up against a team with a good four and a five. The problem may not be with Zanna defending against the five; it will likely come when Young and/or Artis have to match up with a good power forward. Ovie Soko, while a nice player for the Dukes, is not of the quality that Pitt will see most nights in the ACC and neither of the freshmen could handle him. Jamie had to put Patterson on him (another nice adjustment btw) to shut him down.

    I will go on record as saying that I REALLY like this team, but I am a little scared of the interior depth unless one of those two can pick it up on the defensive end. That could be the proverbial fatal flaw.

    Good luck with the jawbreaker DK!

  3. Lad 9 says:

    Jeff Triplette and his crew really blew it at the end of the Sunday Night game. Signaled for the chains to move and changed the down markers, then realized that the Skins did not make the first down after they ran a play and took a shot down field. Ouch!

  4. DJ says:

    On Pitt, it’s the front line I’m concerned about most. Outside of Patterson, I’m not enamored with the group. Zanna is too inconsistent, does not have any “go to” finishing moves, has mediocre hands and is a bad foul shooter.

    That said, maybe the front line will perform along the lines of an Oklahoma State or Wichita State where contributions come from a bunch of 6’6″ to 6’9″ players each night, and the sum of the whole is more than the individual up front talent. We’ll see what happens once the ACC season starts.

    Speaking of which, my early vote goes to Jabari Parker as best player in the nation. They can all talk about Marcus Smart, Andrew Wiggins, Aaron Gordon and others, but I think Parker will top them all at year’s end. An absolute beast.

  5. JohninOshkosh says:

    A lot of credit has to go to Dixon. I’m not sure losing a player of size to the Association ever makes you better but, if it does, then the credit goes to the coaching staff for making adjustments. Pitt always has had good talent. You don’t play competitively in the Big East without it. I think Adams’ absence made Dixon adjust, plus I think normal maturation is playing a roll as well. All I know is that they are fun to watch.

    I read in the LA Times that Steve Alford, of all people, wants the Bruins to start scheduling tougher non-conference opponents. The theory being that great players want to play in the big games. Dixon would be wise to take note. Not sure how good this team is, really, and even a victory over the Nittany Lions won’t provide much insight.

    Speaking of Penn State, congratulations to Coach O’Brien and his club for absolutely schooling my Badgers on Saturday in Madtown. The Badgers defense looked liked like they had never played together as a unit in their lives. It is not an easy venue to win at. The biggest victory of his tenure there, I think, as it came on the road. It’s going to sting me for awhile! :)

    I leave you with this from the great film, “Marathon Man”: “Is it safe ?”

  6. JohninOshkosh says:

    Agree. Watched a fair share of college hoops this holiday weekend. Parker looked much better than Wiggins. Parker would give James fits….now.

  7. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I found that to be alot more disturbing than Mike Tomlin’s little leap.
    The NFL…..Everybody is wrong but them.

  8. JoeyBats says:

    It’s EASY to like this team when you are playing “the little sisters of the poor” any running up 20 point victories very night.

    I’m still of the the opinion that Coach Jamie didn’t use Stevie the right way last year — and didn’t get his full potential out of him (even if it was his rookie year in the Big East).

    Benefit from his leaving? Would you taker him back? Let’s talk about the need for a 7 footer that can (a) shoot, (b) block shoots, (c) rebound, (d) run the court, (e) defend against other big guys for 30 -35 minutes a game in those ACC games…. :-)

    Put Mr.Adams back on this team this year….and they “may” have the potential for an Elite 8 run. Part of the difference is that Slice is back with the team and he has a better handle on working with & developing & “coaching up” big men.

    Pitt always has plenty of “smurfs” ….nice to have an occasional 7 footer….. just can’t seem to hold onto them for too long….

  9. JoeyBats says:

    whoops…apologies fer the typos :-(

  10. JAL says:

    My December Linkin Park

    JAL’s My December Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 MLB Important Dates

    BLOGS and such

    4—Pirates Prospects

    Who Will Be Tendered a Contract by the Pirates Today?

    Rafael Furcal and What Off-Season Interest Means

    Winter Leagues: Three Hits For Polanco on Saturday Night

    5 Bucs Dugout

    Pitching market continues to unfold without participation from Pirates

    Pirates must decide on tenders for Travis Snider, Michael McKenry, others

    6 Rumbunter

    MLB Winter Meetings Coming Soon

    7 Hollywood

    The MLB Network: A Lifeline For Baseball Addicts In The Cold of Winter

    8 Rant Sports

    How Many Pittsburgh Pirates Will Be Non-Tendered?

    9 Athletics Nation

    Breaking News: NOTHING HAPPENS!

  11. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    10 NY Times

    3 General Managers True to One School

    11 Minneapolis Star

    Morneau doesn’t rule out his return to Twins — eventually

    12 CBS Sports

    Creating baseball’s perfect center fielder

    13 India Today

    A ‘Home Run’ for Baseball in India

    14 Huffington Post

    ‘Be Like Mike’ on the Court — and Bill James in the Classroom

    15 Bleacher Report

    MLB Free Agents in the Best, Worst Bargaining Positions at 1-Month Mark

    16 SB Nation

    MLB news roundup: Cubs weighing options with Jeff Samardzija, Twins could continue adding pitchers

    17 Boston Globe

    Feud with writers helped Ted Williams hit harder

    18 Sweetspot

    Let’s have some fun: Three-team trade ideas


    19 Baseball Prospectus

    The Week In Quotes

    20 Fangraphs

    When Walk Years Don’t Work

  12. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Steelers Film Room: Small errors lead to big loss in Week 13

    NFL IR List: Steelers have fourth-most injured reserve designations in the league

    22 Steelers Gab

    Video: Scott And Esiason Disagree On Tomlin’s Intentions Thursday Night


    23 Dailey Mirror

    Everton fail in Landon Donovan loan bid as LA Galaxy boss puts his foot down

    24 World Soccer Daily

    the stories you need to read – November 29, 2013


    25 Pensburgh

    Memorable Moments: Zatkoff’ed

  13. The Gunner says:


    I agree with your second bullet regarding “the fine people over on Federal Street”.

    Phil Hughes just signed with the Twins for $8 million a year and he had a lousy year last year. AJ must be worth at least twice as much, I can’t see Skinflint Nutting going there – how about you??

  14. Jandy says:

    Billy Guerin saw to it that Depres had the help he needed in WBS, and it’s paying off. Can we send Letang to him for a few weeks during the Olympics and get him some help, too?

    Say what you want about the Zatkoff win against the Panthers, it will STILL go along way with helping his confidence. He did make some very good plays, Panthers or not.

    Steelers? Ehhhh…maybe in a season or three, they might be relevant again…but I’m still a Yinzer :)

  15. Jandy says:

    JoeyBats caught the Jandy typo disease ;)

  16. 21sthebest says:

    I think Pitt had a few issues last year.

    1. Dixon maybe just didn’t know how to coach a player like Adams very well.
    2. Adams wasn’t very good.
    3. They had a team of pretty good athletes slowed down by Adams in the offense.
    4. Inexperience.
    5. Woodall was inconsistent.

    So I think eliminating Adams along with not losing very much talent and the core getting older has helped a great deal.

  17. kr70 says:

    Jamie answers this ? the way he does because he deals in realities. Adams is playing on a loaded team in OKC and is contributing. If he stays, Pitt is way better, maybe a top ten team. To think he would stifle other players is crazy. He was unselfish to a fault, an excellent passer, tough on the boards and he can run the floor. Pitt is deeper, more athletic and just plain scary if Adams is on the team. The late Al Mcguire called big men like Adams aircraft carriers. And he certainly would fill that description.

  18. Drew71 says:

    Cartoon Nutting must have rolled over in his grave with last offseason’s two big deals.

    And again for the two in-season deadline deals.

    That’s the thing about those cartoon villains. They never die.

    Recent evidence to the contrary.

    If this is about timing, Liriano and AJ were both acquired in February of their respective offseasons. Martin in November. So two of three of their last big offseason acquisitions did not occur until you could smell the grass clippings of the Pirate City practice fields.

    This offseason won’t come down to
    Simon Bar Nutting.

    It probably won’t come down to timing.

    As usual, it will balance on the execution, or lack thereof, by Huntington and his major league acquisition team.

    Doubt them? Fine. They have a longer record of failure than success.

    Encouraged? Fine. Their record has recently improved.

    Despite Darth Nutting’s black magic.

  19. Wild Bill says:

    John, it is classy of you to congratulate the Nittany Lions. Those kids and their coach work hard and hardly ever note that they are playing with 61 scholarship players – the equivalent of an entire year’s less recruits than the teams they play. This should be their lowest point, as scholarships begin to be restored.

    The Badgers are always a class act, and I wish them well in their bowl game.

    Also glad you and I get to root for all the same teams from here.

  20. This is very dumb is Pitt better with a 7 footer that is contributing to a NBA team. What can you say with someone who said Pitt was under achieving in football with Coach Wann(who has forgotten more about coaching than this guy will ever know) who was winning 8,9,10 games a yr. without a QB PGH. print media deals in total BS

  21. Drew71 says:


    “The Southeastern Conference finally might have cannibalized itself out of a national title.”


  22. Wild Bill says:

    Pitt hoops is not easy to find on tv where I live, but I’ll be looking for them when I can. Liked what I saw of Arizona against Duke. Sean Miller doing good work out there.

  23. Wild Bill says:

    Marathon Man creeped me out years ago. Went in with no idea what was coming; had not read the book.

  24. JAL says:

    It is not over yet, Michigan State is capable of beating Ohio State and if they do Auburn-Missouri winner will be the championship game.

  25. Rbilak says:

    1. Bell was outside the tackle, therefore hit was illegal. MrSafety, more concerned about dead ball than dead player and short time between games = Hypocrite

    2. Ray Lewis knows Tomlin tried to interfere on Jones on purpose, maybe ESPN can get Charles Manson’s unbiased opinion also.

    3. Answer: Heath Miller, Cotchery, a double covered Antonio Brown and Charlie Brown, Question: all better options to pin your season on than Manny Sanders.

    4. Special Teams, no progress under Smith, do they understand kick must go 10 yards? Worry about that first.

    5. Worilds over Woodley, Adams to slow to EVER pass block, punter stinks, If Bells passes concussion test, they are a joke, Tomlin deserves fine, not suspension, Ike nearly done, Kiesel is done.

  26. kr70 says:

    Yeah would like to hear Manson’s take on things. Instead of Mike and Mike we could have Murderers row on ESPN

  27. chethejet says:

    LT who are young tend to struggle unless they are just so talented. Adams with his training camp loss may have not fully recovered, but he is not showing his athleticism that I saw his first year. Next year is the time to step up or become the journeyman who shows up at different teams.

  28. Dom says:

    I cant imagine that Miike Mckenry will return to the Buccos.

    Of course, Martin will be the starting catcher and Tony Sanchez will be the backup. I can’t imagine that McKenry would settle for the starting spot in Indy.

  29. Stuart says:

    Hey Jandy,
    I’d like to hear more about the Guerin thing. I like your suggestion about him and Tanger.

    I’m a big fan of this type of personal coaching. I still remember what Harry “the Hat” Walker did for Matty Alou during one memorable off-season.

    The Guerin/Letang potential matchup would IMHO have an even greater upside given Letang’s abilities and Guerin’s experience.


  30. Arriba Wilver says:

    Pitt—I suspect getting ready to play in the ACC has also helped with how they’re playing without Adams.

    Tomlin—I was totally convinced Tomlin’s action was inadvertent. Until last night, when I saw a long shot from the other end zone on the play. Now, it does kind of look like it may/must have been intentional. There was no visible reason for him to be scooting out. That’s a big Jumbotron. We’ll never know for sure, but fine him. Talk of a lost draft choice is ludicrous.

    Biggest surprise about the Tomlin thing—Harbaugh didn’t sound like a jerk. He said, basically, “stuff happens, stuff happens to everybody.”

  31. Jandy says:

    hey Stu! happy Monday!
    I found the article by Josh Yohe here:

    I say we let Billy take Letang under his wing and “fix” him too.

  32. Arriba Wilver says:

    I can’t imagine they would offer him arbitration.

  33. Nancy52 says:

    If I recall correctly those players not in the Olympics are not allowed to practice until
    a few days before the regular season resumes.

  34. 21sthebest says:

    Buster Olney is reporting that the Pirates are on the verge of acquiring catcher Chris Stewart from the Yankees.

  35. 21sthebest says:

    Worth noting that Stewart hit, you guessed it, .211 last year.

  36. Jandy says:

    Well, Boo!

  37. Brandon says:

    Pitt was a potential Final 4 team with Adams – even if his offensive development remained slow in 2013-14, his defensive presence and rebounding would make the difference in many key games. The weak link that Dixon needs to overcome will be the maturity of the 4 on this team – both Young and Artes are athletic and will develop, but having Zanna there to rotate at either the 4 or 5 would have been outstanding. Adams was unique in his ability to run the court and Pitt could have played the same type of game with more depth.
    My thought is that Patterson, Wright, Zanna and Robinson would have progressed with or without Adams. I think their skills and scoring output show up more strongly without Adams obvious impact as they would have been more complimentary than primary with Adams in the middle.
    I am very excited to see the growth and development of this team – if they continue to shoot a high free throw %, they will win most of their games. They may need additional back court depth (Mostella if available) as the young guys backing up Wright and Robinson may be outclassed by the deeper ACC guard depth. Really looking forward to getting through the remaining weak non-conference schedule to see the real competition.

  38. Botherhood of the Redus says:

    If that Phil Hughes figure is correct, that is AWFUL…Ross Dorfesque in fact

  39. Dom says:

    Why do we want him?

  40. Stuart says:

    Thanks J. I missed that one. Nice to see Billy in what appears to be a significant role.

    In my opinion, it happens too frequently that players on the active roster stop developing, and get pretty set in their ways. If Letang could get som one-on-one with Guerin he could improve greatly. Of course, his attitude toward improving might be the biggest factor. One you start making the big bucks it gets harder to admit that you might not be perfect.

    Happy Monday to you as well. Nice to start a new week without having to digest a Sunday melt down from the Stillers.


  41. 21sthebest says:

    Maybe for depth and he projects to get about $1M which is cheap.

  42. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think to quiet the talk that they aren’t doing anything. ;-)

  43. 21sthebest says:

    And that they’re re-mantling.

  44. Milo Hamilton says:

    Final Four of what ?

  45. Jandy says:

    Rather have the Fort

  46. Jandy says:

    Stuart…amen on the Stillers ;)

    Tanger needs an attitude adjustment as well. Billy is big enough to give him one lol

  47. Milo Hamilton says:

    Can’t hit a lick but he is great defensively.

  48. Scott says:

    Titans lost. Chargers lost. Jets lost. Browns lost. Bills lost. The Steelers now trail only two teams for the final playoff spot – the Ravens and Dolphins. And the Steelers get a chance to knock off the Dolphins this week at Heinz Field.

    Anyone who wrote off the Steelers after Thursday’s loss hasn’t been paying attention. These other teams are going to continue losing, because they’re all terrible. The Ravens are the best of the bunch, and they still have to play New England and Cincy. 8-8 could really be good enough to get in this year.

  49. Jim S. says:

    All good points, 21. I would also add that both Patterson and Wright appear to have taken huge strides forward in the off-season. Granted, they have not played against great competition yet, and Patterson has had dominating periods vs weak competition in the past. But, Wright has never been an offensive force. I believe Wright has already shown a great deal of variety in his offensive game this season. He seems to score and create opportunities for others in a lot of different ways.

    Again, still early. All the precincts haven’t been counted yet. But, I like what I see.

    On Adams, you are correct. Jamie had no idea what to do with such a raw talent. Jamie does not like growing pains on the court, and there was no way around it with Adams.

  50. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Pirates are now setting their sights on Yogi Berra.

  51. Jason says:

    I believe McKenry has an option left. If he is resigned, he could provide some depth. But, what of Tony Sanchez? Catcher was not a position I thought the Bucs would try to upgrade.

  52. Damon says:

    On one hand, even though the Steelers lost, a lot of good/beneficial things happened over the weekend to keep their chances alive:
    -Dolphins beat the Jets to make Jets 5-7, and it gives the Steelers a chance to bring one of the two 6-6 teams (Dolphins) back to the pack this week.
    -Chargers lost to the Bengals making them 5-7.
    -Titans lost to the Colts making them 5-7.
    They still lose the tie breaker to Tennessee, but if they win out…

    The Steelers put Velasco on IR, and either Cody Wallace or Olsen (?) will start at center this weekend. We’ll find out more this week on the rest of the linemen who got hurt (Adams, Beachum). Bell got dung, and may not play. Ike Taylor and the secondary still giving up big gains.

    I haven’t given up yet, but man it’s getting late, and it will be a serious test of depth to still win games.

  53. Jim S. says:

    Does not appear that way, as they are supposedly finishing a trade with no hit, pitch framer extraordinaire, Chris Stewart of NYY.

  54. Jim S. says:

    I thought he sounded like a bit of a jerk after the game, when he asked if Tomlin got credit for the tackle. I guess maybe I bring my usual anti-Harbaugh bias into it.

  55. Jim S. says:

    He is said to be among the best pitch-framers in the league. FWIW, the Pirates obviously value that skill.

  56. Drew71 says:

    Which would be funny for all the wailing that would ensue about the SEC backing in. Again.

    That said, I don’t think it matters.

    I thought FSU would beat Alabama. And I see them as multiple scores better than Auburn or Missouri.

    But what do EYE know? Watch Duke beat em.

    Somebody tell Duke I don’t need the help to look stoopid.

    And PS. I agree with your perspective of the B10. Just as with Auburn-Alabama, I expect Ohio State to beat Michigan State but wouldn’t be stunned to see an upset.

    PPS. I loved seeing Saban getting schooled by another coach.

  57. JohninOshkosh says:

    I see you attended a game where Andrew Bynum decided to show up.

  58. Jim S. says:

    Correct about FT shooting, Brandon. With so many fouls now being called, it is paramount for teams to have depth and to be able to make free throws – especially guards who take the ball to the hoop.

  59. JohninOshkosh says:

    Thanks, William.

  60. 21sthebest says:

    Based on what we saw defensively from the Fort last year, I don’t want him on the Major League roster right now. If he ends up back in our minor leagues and can improve, maybe.

  61. NMR says:

    Huntington/Hurdle have never brought up a prospect to sit on the bench, as Tony Sanchez would be doing for the majority of 2014.

    I doubt this has as much to do with what they think of Tony’s abilities as it does with having him play one day a week in Pittsburgh or everyday in Indy.

  62. 21sthebest says:

    Adams shot 43% from the line last year so that’s also not hurting Pitt this year. :-)

  63. Joni says:

    Regarding Pens v. Panthers:

    I was concerned about Chris Conner’s head after a puck hit his helmet while he sprawled on the ground during a penalty kill. I hope Chris is okay. Bob Errey sure had a good time laughing about it, but I’m not surprised on that one.

    Hurray for Geno! Watching him move other players’ sticks out of the way to make room before he does something amazing is a beautiful thing to behold. I always wonder what goes through opposing defensemen’s heads when they see the long arm of Geno reach out and move their stick away like it’s nothing. Probably some variation of “oh sh@&” :)

  64. JAL says:

    Done deal–Stewart to pirates for the well traveled PTBNL McKenry DFA

  65. Milo Hamilton says:

    Oh my goodness, did he ever. He dominated. And Kyrie Irving is the real deal. I couldn’t help but think of Groat at one point, there were 4 Duke guys out there at one time – Irving, Deng, Boozer & Dunleavy.

  66. Jandy says:


  67. Jim S. says:

    Did anyone hear how many draft picks Miami is expected to lose for “overruling” the coach when he wanted to cut Incognito for harassing the woman at the golf outing, then having him promoted to the leadership council?

    How many picks did Al Davis lose for repeatedly refusing to pay off the contracts of coaches he fired early?

    New England cheated its way to some Super Bowl titles, right? In the midst of it, they were caught and told to stop cheating immediately. They, of course, only stopped after being caught again. I believe they lost one #1 draft pick – again, for repeatedly cheating, even after being caught.

    New Orleans lost their coach for a season, but I don’t think they lost any draft picks for the bounty scandal.

  68. Wild Bill says:

    I can’t help but feel a little bad about this. The Fort was one of the best people to wear our uniform. I hope he can catch on with another team.

  69. Milo Hamilton says:

    Once again, all the local beat writers scooped by the national guys.

  70. Jim S. says:

    McKenry has done some hitting in spurts. And, he seems like a solid guy to have for a team. But, he can’t catch or throw very well, and it seems to me the Pirates evaluate catching as about 90% defense and 10% offense.

  71. The Gunner says:

    I heard they thought Yogi was too old and inquired about either Elston Howard or John Blanchard.

  72. Jim S. says:

    Since he’s a catcher, Wild Bill, I think he’ll latch on. Being a catcher today is as good as being a lefty reliever who can get lefties out. You might not get paid a ton of dough, but the work is steady.

  73. Arriba Wilver says:

    He’d have to be offered arbitration. No way I would pay an arbitration rate for him at this point.

  74. Jim S. says:

    I think every team with a pulse is trying to upgrade catching all the time now, Jason.

  75. Arriba Wilver says:

    He did say that, but followed it with what I put. I think a lot of us in the same situation might have made the first crack. And some would have stopped there. ;-)

  76. Damon says:

    So what happens with Tony Sanchez? Not only did his hitting start coming around, he seemed to be handling the pitchers well too.

  77. JRay3 says:

    Well now that the Chris Stewart news is out of the hat, I actually received a text from the agent of Stewart last week telling me his client was about to be traded to the Pirates, but to keep it close to the vest as negotiations were being finalized.

    That agent, friend to my wife, is the same guy that reps Bryan Morris, maybe I can orchestrate a dinner with Stewart on a road trip sometime this season.

    Still waiting for the news on a corner OF, 1B and starting pitcher. Really hope management seized this window of opportunity that appears to be there.

  78. Arriba Wilver says:

    He had that disease where he got worse rather than better. But maybe we can blame it on Barrabas. ;-)

  79. theplanisworking says:


  80. Thundercrack says:

    It was very hard not to root for The Fort.

    But if this new guy is better defensively then I would rather have him than McKenry.

  81. Bizrow says:

    I hope Yogi works out better than Dale did

  82. NMR says:

    He plays everyday in Indy, like every other Pirate prospect to come through the ranks.

    Not saying there isn’t room for debate on the merrit of that logic, but it is completely consists with every other prospect decision I can think of from Hurdle/Huntington.

  83. Thundercrack says:

    Guys like Lambo and Mercer came up and sat….not as much as T Sanchez

  84. Jim S. says:

    No penalties for NE yesterday. None.

  85. 21sthebest says:

    We didn’t even get to thank him for this service. Or Garrett.

  86. Thundercrack says:

    For now on just say ” a little birdie told me….”

  87. Bizrow says:

    I’m with you on that, TC

  88. NMR says:

    This seemed like prime Pirate Blogger news to break. They’ll surely be having a word with Huntington after their next roundtable.

  89. Jim S. says:

    I liked McKenry as well. But, I expect Stewart to also be a “good guy.” Aren’t all backup catchers good clubhouse guys?

  90. Milo Hamilton says:

    One factor in this catcher musical chairs game that’s being missed is the health & well being of Russell Martin. I think they played him more than they wanted to early in the season & it took its toll later on. McKenry was just so awful defensively they simply were afraid to put him back there. Especially with pitchers that had trouble holding runners. Stewart can’t hit but he’s at least Martin’s equal behind the plate. And they’ll be able to use him with all of their pitchers. And as far as Sanchez goes, what NMR said. He’ll be the catcher in 2015 & he’ll be well served honing his craft one more year in the minor leagues.

  91. kr70 says:

    If steelers win the game Harbaugh would not be so gracious

  92. Damon says:

    Just goes to show you what confidence will do – earlier this season he was losing those pucks trying to dangle around the D. Now he is back to elite level – and lovin’ every minute of it. Sid is the one that is starting to look frustrated now, but I’m sure that won’t last long.

    Another thought: In a month or so, the Pens will get Scuderi and Martin back. They will have a lot of decisions to make on their very deep D corp seeing how well Engelland, Despres and others have played. They also need to decide on Bortuzzo. Seems like someone would have to be traded, but as we all know injuries will happen and things may just work themselves out.

  93. Arriba Wilver says:

    Even without that.

  94. NMR says:

    Last time I saw Garrett Jones in PNC Park, fans certainly seemed to be sending him off. Just of the “boo” variety.

  95. Playoffs by 2012 says:

    Michael McKenry will sign with the Brewers.
    He will throw out Starling Marte and Andrew McCutchen every time they attempt to steal.
    Alex Presley will cheer.

  96. hockeymonster says:

    In case you guys missed it and/or care here are my thoughts on tanger from yesterday…yes i copied and pasted cuz im feeling lazy :)

    Ok so regarding Tanger its getting to the point where if im the opposing coach i’m telling my team to pressure the hair aka tanger at any and all times. He’s making safer and smarter plays a bit more often but he’s still forcing passes, lugging the puck when he should be making short passes, he’s not using his dman partner as an outlet when its the obvious and simple/safe play and maybe most importantly he hasn’t realized that his hands are no where near as good as his skating. As a matter a fact his hands are borderline horrible at times. On top of that he’s attempting fancy passes and plays that only 87 and 71 should be allowed to attempt. He needs to move his feet quick then move the puck even quicker…then he can use his skating to jump into the play after the forwards push back the d. I dont know how many times we gotta see the same mistakes repeated before they’re addressed but its getting old…Just sayin…

  97. Thundercrack says:

    I agree Milo. I think Martin played too much.

    And I think that they need to curb this stuff about ‘this pitcher likes to throw to only this catcher’

  98. Jim S. says:

    He definitely could have gone further in his comments, Arriba. That is true. Maybe if he had lost.

  99. NMR says:


    Martin and Sanchez were the only catchers on the 40-man, which is crazy considering how often they get injured, as a position. Another guy was always going to be brought in from the start, and it made sense for him to be a major leaguer since Sanchez has options.

    Fact that the person brought is will be about as inexpensive as possible says something more about this apparent budget crunch.

  100. Thundercrack says:

    Playoffs, that post gets my vote for ‘Post of the Month’.

    21, almost had it with his use of the term “re-mantling”

  101. Jim S. says:

    I agree with the budget crunch part.

    I also think they value Stewart’s framing ability (his strength) way more than McKenry’s pop (his apparent strength). Oh, and the fact that McKenry looks like Wes Welker didn’t help in Pittsburgh. :-)

  102. NMR says:

    Lambo and Mercer were only called up for any amount of time when other guys on the 25-man were injurred.

    Don’t tell me you forget the great Jordy-Mercer-John-McDonald-organizational-depth debate of 2013.

  103. Bizrow says:

    So, Snider gets non-tendered today?

  104. Jim S. says:

    I agree. I seem to recall a lot of the “See ya, Garrett. Don’t let the door hit you in the *ss on the way out” variety of comments.

  105. Jason says:

    Stewart was acquired for PTBNL, McKenry DFA’d.

  106. Jim S. says:

    You are nearing celebrity status here, JRay.

  107. NMR says:

    I was hoping they could swing a deal for Ryan Hannigan, but intra-division trades and whatnot.

  108. Milo Hamilton says:

    The only budget crunch going on happens right after they decide how much they want to pocket.

  109. Stuart says:

    “re-mantling” definitely deserves wider usage.

    My reaction to Stewart: “WTF”. Feel better though after hearing Milo and NMR explanations – Makes sense that Tony plays every day.


  110. NMR says:


    Did you happen to see the Rockies Owner getting out in front of the narrative by “opening the books” to Troy Renck?

  111. Nate83 says:

    Crazy thought!!! I’m not saying this should happen but with the Pirates seeming to be unwilling to add much payroll could Tony Sanchez be a first base platoon with the other Sanchez. It would definately free up money to add payroll at other positions of need. I’m not even sure Tony Sanchez is capable of such a move but he seems pretty athletic.

    Just tell me I’m crazy and I will move along.

  112. The Gunner says:

    Yogi will do better than Dale because Yogi never graduated to drugs, he just stayed with the boozing.

  113. NMR says:

    You’re not crazy, but I can clearly see your nuts.

    Did I do that one right?

  114. Thundercrack says:

    I saw that too NMR. I was surprised that the owner came out and said that some of the TV money would be used to pay down debt.

  115. NMR says:

    Bet your steak on it, Biz

  116. Stuart says:

    OK, you’re crazy. Both Sanchez’ hit right-handed for one thing, and Sanchez still seen as the catcher in waiting as early as next year.


  117. Jim S. says:

    I doubt it, Nate. He doesn’t hit enough to play 1b, and he bats righty – same as Gaby.

  118. Milo Hamilton says:

    My friend the accounting professor tells me there are always 2 sets of books. Always. You know, like the one the Pirates showed Dejan & the real one.

  119. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, I saw that.

  120. Jim S. says:

    I should have said “self-imposed” budget crunch.

  121. Stuart says:

    In regard to the PTBNL, didn’t the Yanks express interest in GI not so long ago?


  122. Jandy says:

    hey! This is a family blog ;)

  123. Jim S. says:

    Did you mean “you’re?” :-)

  124. Jandy says:


  125. theplanisworking says:

    Someomne said a long time ago they could see my nuts, but I had a can of cashews on the table. just sayin…………

  126. Jandy says:

    Oh Joy, another soap opera!

  127. Milo Hamilton says:

    As The Eagles once said, he’s already gone.

  128. theplanisworking says:

    Is Pitt better without Steve Adams? No. It is a good thing that Patterson, Wright et al are improved, but Pitt would have been Top 10 caliber with Adams returning. If Adams returned, he would have improved also, and maybe Dixon would have learned how to use him more properly. It would also have given Pitt 2 distinct looks, depending on whether or not Adams was in the game.

    Of course, it would have been fun to see what improvements to Adams’ game Rohrssen could have done……….

  129. 21sthebest says:

    Not true.

  130. Bizrow says:

    Good point, but aren’t the Yanks “penny pinching”?? Well at least in their neighborhood

  131. Jandy says:

    cashews or chestnuts??

  132. Arriba Wilver says:

    Don’t recall Davis being denied draft picks by the NFL. He wasted quite a few on his own, though.

  133. Bizrow says:

    The PBC DFA’d the legend, they can’t tender him, can they?

    The reason I ask is this post on MLBTrade Rumors – Other Pirates non-tender candidates include 1B/OF Garrett Jones, who was designated for assignment last week,

  134. Bizrow says:

    I think they have time to move him, don’t they?

  135. theplanisworking says:

    I really dont understand where the logic train is coming in regards to the Steelers losing a draft pick in regards to Tomlins actions. He will get a hefty fine, but the Jets had a similar situation a few years ago, and they didnt lose any draft picks. I agree with Jim’s points above regarding otehr teams doing far worse, and they werent punished with draft pick loss.

    I feel this is yet another instance where the stupidity of the NFL is on full (fool) display. They need to concentrate on the head-hunting, concussion , and referee issues first.

    And, nice to see that Marcia Brady’s tirade after the Carolina game has been rewarded with not a single flag thrown against the Cheatriots yesterday. Maybe Oher can go to NE, where his 90% false start rate wouldn’t be an issue?

    NFL == Not For LOng if they keep this up………

  136. theplanisworking says:


    Its a family blog, so I will stick with cashews………

  137. nellieh says:

    I can’t fathom a team better without a 7′ team member who can play and is not a pain in the locker room or on the floor. Adams would have been a year older and a season of experience in hand. In my opinion, their preseason expectation in the ACC would be a lot higher than 6th were he here instead of Oklahoma. Why would you even ponder a question as this?

  138. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Never a doubt in my mind that they still cheat.
    They’ve learned to do it on a higher level.
    These days technology is such that people don’t have to fly planes or drive cars.
    Kids can hack into corporate sites.
    No one can tell me Belichick doesn’t have a small crew working for him.
    The Cheatriots know what they’re doing……

  139. Arriba Wilver says:

    Not an accountant, and it always confuses me, but in my experience there ARE always two sets of books. One is the strictly required accounting/tax ones, and one is the how to run our business ones, like with cash flow and whatnot. In other words, not necessarily nefarious, or improper.

  140. NMR says:

    Correct, Biz.

  141. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    The NFL?….A logic train?
    You know better…..

  142. Milo Hamilton says:

    Correct. He was DFA’d last Monday & I’m not sure how the holiday messes with the time frame.

  143. Arriba Wilver says:

    Nate—think you must have had too much turkey . . . or something . . . over the holidays.

  144. 21sthebest says:

    It’s really one set. The budget/cash flow projection is derived from the accounting records.

  145. NMR says:

    Absolutely. Rockies fans certainly weren’t shown actual team finances, nor was the owner obligated to give them.

    But, IMO, an owner playing bait and switch with fans is disingenious, at best.

  146. Arriba Wilver says:

    My guess is, because of the timing, they can trade, release or tender him. Could be another Neal “genius” move to give them the most options. (That was for Foo in case he’s lurking).

  147. NMR says:

    I think you’re taking this one too literally, 21.

  148. Thundercrack says:

    Did the Rockies’ owner tell the fans that if the attendance increased so would payroll?
    That would be bait & switch to me.

  149. 21sthebest says:

    Well I am a CPA so I’m just trying to ‘splain from my experience.

  150. Jandy says:

    …or something…

  151. theplanisworking says:

    Now that the Pirates have done the “necessities” today regarding arb-eligible players, will we see anything of note going into the GM meetings next week? Has Neal seen his shadow?

    Has anyone heard anything new on AJ?

    RIP Fort.
    We hardly knew ye……….

  152. Thundercrack says:

    I think the incident with the Jets – the runner was already out of bounds.

    Imagine if the Ravens would have lost that game on Thursday …because they didn’t score a TD on that run back (because of Tomlin). And imagine if that loss cost the Ravens a spot in the playoffs.

    I think Ed Bouchette put it best this morning on the radio when he gave his opinion of the play : shameful.

    If I am the owner of the Steelers I call Tomlin into my office and tell him that the Steelers don’t do those types of things and that he embarrassed the organization. Don’t embarrass the organization again.

  153. Jandy says:

    After all, the standard is the standard!

  154. Jandy says:

    Geno named NHL “First Star of the Week”|PIT|home

  155. Arriba Wilver says:

    I was just trying to ‘splain why “two sets of books” could be true without the “aha, there’s something fishy going on here” narrative.

  156. Joni says:

    It’s a weird push-me-pull-you phenomenon with Sid and Geno when it comes to who is “on” at the moment. I am sure there have been plenty of times when they play immaculate hockey at the same time. I guess my eyes are open moreso when one of them looks frustrated. And yes, Sid does look frustrated.

    Great question about what will happen to the players when all of the D are healthy. I know who I want to keep (see avatar). Despres is playing well, thanks to the focus on his defense while he was in Wilkes-Barre.

    I kinda like Engallend as a forward. He would provide some of that grit that is lacking with the bottom six forwards.

    And then there was Robert Bortuzzo. I think he should also be given ice time this year, but I don’t want to see him sit in the press box all season. I wonder if other teams are thinking about acquiring Borts. Although he would be difficult to scout since other GMs cannot see him play…

  157. Jim S. says:

    Could not agree more. I think Jamie has done a good job of re-tooling on the fly. But, Adams with a better idea of what he is doing in Jamie’s system? That would have to elevate this team.

  158. Jim S. says:

    Non-tenderized steak, to be specific.

  159. theplanisworking says:

    And the 2013 Steeler Standard is very low !

  160. theplanisworking says:

    Need a bib, Jandy? ;)

  161. Jandy says:

    seems that way, Hipposter, seems that way…

  162. NMR says:

    Ha, I could tell, 21, and I do appreciate your comments.

  163. 21sthebest says:

    Alright but when people in my profession hear the phrase two sets of books, we tend to get very very very defensive. It has a very bad connotation.

  164. theplanisworking says:

    It would also move Zanna to the 4, and would give Pitt a very strong frontline, and added flexibility.
    I think the boss just chucked this column out today for us to distract us from no football yesterday……….


  165. NMR says:

    The intent of the Rockies Owner was clearly to explain why payroll is not higher, and the evidence he chose to use was a version of the “books”.

    If those are different than the actual books, then I believe the analogy is apt.

  166. Jandy says:

    LOL nah…Geno doesn’t appeal to me, other than his scoring and his silly name for Neal ;)

  167. NMR says:

    I’ve been saying on the Bucco Blog that the Winter Meetings are gonna be when the Pirates make moves.

    Josh Johnson WOULD have been last year’s Russell Martin. Otherwise, nothing has really happened yet that has much effect on the Pirates.

  168. Jim S. says:

    So true, Arriba. For a long time there, one of his favorite strategies was to simply draft the fastest WR each year – regardless of any other attributes the guy did or didn’t have.

  169. Arriba Wilver says:

    I get that, which is why I was trying to explain it from a layman’s perspective.

    And there are businesses that illegally have 2 sets of books. But in baseball it’s unnecessary.

  170. theplanisworking says:

    With all the discussion above about Fort, and GI, and New acquisition Stewart, just think what it would be like in here when something important actually occurs, instead of moves with 25th man-type players…………. not criticizing anyone in any way. Always love me some Pirate talk.

    The team still needs to fill major holes at RF, IB, SS, and deal with AJ…………… but not a peep. I know that some Pirate deals have occurred late in the offseason, but other teams (namly St. Looie) are improving, so time is a-tickin.

  171. Lad 9 says:

    The bib comes out for number 58 I believe…. :)

  172. Joni says:

    I of course refer to his play.

  173. theplanisworking says:

    And, of course I posted this before reading NMR’s 12:22 post, which helps a little.

    Just dont want the Bucs to be the 4th person at a 3 chair table.

  174. theplanisworking says:

    Of course……… ;)

  175. theplanisworking says:

    You mean she actually looks at the numbers? ;)

    And your avatar is a step down from your previous one…….

  176. Jim S. says:

    Speaking of Suzie McConnell-Serio (as the blogmaster general did, above), her nephew TJ is a great fit at AZ. He was a big key in that win over Duke. Plays defense 94′ and distributes the ball so well. I loved the interview with him afterward. He says all he is interested in is helping the team win, anyway he can. No “me-go” on that kid whatsoever. Flash forward to 2030, and I bet he’ll be one of the best coaches in the country, year in and year out.

  177. Jandy says:

    Sure does…even if he’s p*ssing me off with his dumb play lately…

  178. Jandy says:

    LAD!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE the avatar! Woop Woop!!!!!

  179. Jandy says:

    Hipposter, I may be getting older, but I’m not dead…yet…and I appreciate me some eye candy :P

  180. Jandy says:

    RIP Paul Walker…taken from us waaaayyy too soon…


  181. Jandy says:

    foreplay? interplay? iceplay?


  182. Jandy says:


  183. Jim S. says:

    As it should.

  184. theplanisworking says:

    -1 ;)

  185. Wild Bill says:

    What a difference a couple of weeks can make.

  186. Lad 9 says:

    Got it just for you Jandy. Waited to post until I was sure you were around. Christmas DA-AY! Woop Woop….. :)

  187. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    I’d rather Tomlin didn’t do what he did….But it bothers me little.
    I pull for the Pittsburgh Steelers win or lose.

  188. Lad 9 says:

    Seasonal avatar my friend. The Panthers will return… :)

  189. Jandy says:

    Thanks Lad! :D

    Hipposter, don’t be a party pooper :P

  190. Jim S. says:

    Jack Lambert?

  191. Wild Bill says:

    Even more eye candy for you, Jandy???

  192. Jandy says:

    Isn’t that the truth, Wild One? Neal coming back was the biggest factor, tho. Geno loves Lazy on his wing ;)

  193. Jandy says:

    haha Jim, was this in response to the eye candy comment???

  194. Wild Bill says:

    That was a fun game to watch, and I have trouble sitting still for a whole game of anything.

  195. Jandy says:

    ( I know, I know, it was the 58 comment :P )

  196. Jandy says:

    well, yeah, he was eye candy too, but in a world of starts that let everything go to their heads and act like idiots, Walker stood above that….what a huge loss…

  197. Jim S. says:

    I’m a little bummed about Hershel.

    The Governor, too.

  198. Jandy says:

    that should be a world of stars…darn Jandy typos…

  199. theplanisworking says:

    Party Pooper? Nah.
    I know what you can get me for Christmas…… a rubber mallet. Then I could flatten the Camel humps. (Sorry Lad).

    I dont want you getting diabetes from all this eye candy, Jandy! ;)

  200. Lad 9 says:

    Gotta love him Jim. He has worked his behind off to get to where he is, and you have to respect that. Plus he has way more athleticism than people give him credit for too. I guess it is unlikely that he will play at the next level, but to me, that says more about what is wrong with the next level than anything else.

    Hey Jim, you are a Naperville resident aren’t you? Do you have any kids in Naperville Central?

  201. Jandy says:

    No mallets and no flattening the camel humps >:<

    I limit my feasting, Hipposter, no worries :P

  202. Jim S. says:

    Well, the 58 part. That was Jack’s number as well.

    Honestly, though, you women, I swear you can’t just appreciate talent w/o sinking to a superfiicial level. The men here obviously hold themselves to a higher standard. :-)

  203. theplanisworking says:

    Jim, did Kaley Cuoco start suiting up yet? ;)

  204. NMR says:

    Just my opinion, of course.

  205. Jim S. says:

    No, lad. My kids go to Neuqua. They smoked us 2x in football this year, if that is what you are referring to.

  206. hockeymonster says:

    Hey jandster, just took a closer look at FF. ;)

  207. theplanisworking says:

    No worries, it was a good one.

  208. Jim S. says:

    Exactly, plan. I think Kaley’s a comedic genius. She could look like Ernest Borgnine, for all eye care.

  209. Joni says:

    I think I will go with ice play!

  210. Jandy says:

    I will Monster Mash, haven’t been there in 2 days…my bad…

  211. Jandy says:

    what do you think of it, Mash?

  212. hockeymonster says:

    I meant I sent a hello like u suggested. Have a good holiday weekend?

  213. Jandy says:

    LOL Joni, just bustin on ya….or is that Sarah’s forte?

  214. Lad 9 says:

    I have a colleague/friend whose son plays on the Central football team and he is pretty pumped about the state championship. Just thought there might be some commonality.

    I spent a little bit of time in Naperville a few years back when my daughter was attending a hoop camp and I thought it was a really cool town…other than the traffic in town, which was ghastly for a Saturday…

  215. Jandy says:

    Hey Jim…I got 2 words for ya, my friend:

    Byte me


  216. Jandy says:

    Indeed I did, very much so, thanks :) Hope you did too.
    …unfortunately I can’t read the comments over at FF from work…don’t know why, but they’re blocked…I can read the articles.

  217. hockeymonster says:

    Ya it’s was good. Sent a note to Matt in the directory section. Didn’t post any comments.

  218. JohninOshkosh says:

    What about Nolasco ? The Twins signed him to their largest free agency signing in franchise history. Durable, capable of pitching well. Do you think the Pirates ever had any desire to bring him into the fold and then jettisoning AJB ?

    Disclaimer, I rarely, if ever look at MLB Trade Rumors.

  219. Jim S. says:

    Central does have a killer football program, Lad. They are a traditional power, along with Naperville North. I can’t recall which one of them Sean Payton went to, because it was before my time here. But, he went to one of those two schools. Our school is newer, and we have not established the youth football infrastructure yet as well as the other two – although we did get to the state semi-finals last year.

    Naperville is a huge town, so the traffic comment doesn’t surprise me Lad. I live on the far SW corner, and it can take me a half-hour, easy, to get to the NW side. There are 5 monster HS here – with, probably 20,000+ students combined. I’d say the population is probably closing in on 200,000, and it is just a suburb but is more like a city. Chicago is a freakishly large Metro. We are almost 40 miles from the city.

    For how big our town is, though, I bet we still don’t produce as many football prospects as much smaller WPA towns. Chicago area is not a great HS football area, overall. Now, hoops is a different story.

  220. Milo Hamilton says:

    My little hamlet gave them their quarterback. Plus a kid that ran a kickoff back for a TD last week. Football hotbed that we are.

  221. Milo Hamilton says:

    I was talking Pittsburgh Central there. Reading is fundamental. :)

  222. Jim S. says:

    Now, that was uncalled for. :-)

    Ok, it was called for.

  223. Jim S. says:


  224. Jandy says:


    Ya know I <3 ya, friend :)

  225. Jim S. says:

    I don’t think so, Osh, because he was originally talking 5 years x $20 million, and then “settled” for 4 and less money from a desperate Twins organization. He’s a #3 starter, I would say. No other organization was considering giving him 4 years.

    Then, the Twins followed that up by giving Phil Hughes 3 x $8M. I don’t hate Hughes …. for more like 2 x $6M. He’s only 27, and will be moving into the toughest park in the AL for hitting HR. Hughes is a #4/5 starter, though.

    So, the Twins will be paying $20 million per year for a #3 and #4/5. Unfortunately for the Twins, those guys will be their #1 & #2, I think.

  226. 21sthebest says:

    Well TJ isn’t much of a scorer and doesn’t really have a jump shot. Not sure how that all would play at the next level.

  227. Jim S. says:

    Pittsburgh Central has definitely produced more football talent than any school in our town, Milo.

  228. NMR says:

    Ricky Nolasco is what you get when your organization cannot produce decent starting pitchers.

    Ricky Nolasco is a fine pitcher. The Minnesota Twins are a better team with him in the rotation. But they’re committing over $10m per year – for four years guaranteed – to a guy an average at-best starter whose biggest attribute is the number of innings he pitches.

    That’s a bunch of money for mediocrity.

  229. Jim S. says:

    And, for the record, I’m glad Kaley doesn’t look like Ernest Borgnine. Not that I notice those things.

    And, I appreciate football sideline reporters strictly for their … gulp … journalistic content.

  230. Jandy says:

    Journalistic content…uh…yeah…and I’m Mother Theresa ;)

  231. Jim S. says:

    You said a mouthful, NMR. 4.50+ ERA and 1.4+ WHIP. Not only do they lack starting pitching talent now, these moves signal they don’t have much coming, either.

  232. Joni says:

    I hear ya, Jandy!

    There is a site called What’s Up, Ya Sieve? that is much better for “appreciating” hockey players.
    They mention the Penguins often :)

  233. Jim S. says:

    Just saying, I really enjoy that time right before and right after halftime. Very enlightening.

  234. Jandy says:

    LOL Joni!! It’s blocked at work…must be pretty good ;)
    I’ll check it from home…

  235. Lad 9 says:

    My alma mater….. Trust me when I tell you, it was not like that when I was there. 90-95 % of the kids came from the city and had some kind of tuition assistance from their parish, which just doesn’t happen anymore. We had a few kids from Penn Hills, but I honestly can’t think of anywhere else the athletes came from in the burbs. We also didn’t win as much either,

  236. Nate83 says:

    Egg nog is the …..or something….. To be fair I prefaced the thought by saying I may be crazy (nuts). I also said that I wouldn’t do it myself but would the frugal Pirates do it. I also don’t think a platoon has to be opposite hand hitters but instead just two players that hit the opposite hand pitchers well.

  237. NMR says:

    And he has always been one of those guys who pitches below his peripherals.

    The Hughes signing, to me, is just incredible. In reality, they GUARANTEED three years to a prospect.

    That’s what Hughes is at this point, isn’t it? Put together all the “ifs” surrounding him and the reality is that he’s no more reliable than an unproven prospect. Doesn’t mean it will turn out to be a bad signing, of course, but that is an incredible commitment to mediocrity.

  238. Lad 9 says:

    He isn’t a big scorer because that is not his role in college. He averaged 34 PPG in his senior year of HS. At Duquesne he shot 51% from the field overall and 43% from three point range. He is in fact an excellent jump shooter.

  239. Lad 9 says:

    Did not realize that Naperville was that big. That certainly explains the traffic. Thanks Jim.

  240. Jim S. says:

    “The 2014 Minnesota Twins: If all goes well, we could approach mediocrity.”

  241. 21sthebest says:

    Jump shooter? He shoots his 3’s via the set shot.

  242. theplanisworking says:

    Huge props to Milo for calling USC AD Pat Haden ruining the football program. He called this 3 weeks ago. This is why Milo gets the big bucks around here. (And I dont even know if he hunts…) ;)

  243. theplanisworking says:

    Kansas City GM Dayton Moore gets a 2 year extension.
    No word if it was granted last year in secret………………

  244. Nate83 says:

    Jim isn’t that the same slogan as the 2013 Royals?

  245. theplanisworking says:

    Thank You, JAL for posting Linkin Park today.
    Underrated band.

  246. Milo Hamilton says:

    Pirates have avoided arbitration with Chris Stewart. First reported by the Wall Street Journal. Do the local dailies actually pay their beat people ?

  247. JohninOshkosh says:


  248. Jandy says:

    They’re all out buck hunting…the furry kind, not the green kind…

  249. JohninOshkosh says:

    Pretty bad when the WSJ beats you to the punch. 24/7 must be circling and looking for a parking spot.

    Whose, the WSJ’s source: Maria Bartaromo ?

  250. Jim S. says:

    Yes, and it was for the better part of 2 decades for the Bucs, of course. The Twins, I’m sure, are taking a lot of heat from their fan base for not being very good and following that up by not being aggressive in free agency. So, they signed a couple of “decent” pitchers at over $20 million per year. So, that will maybe get them from 65 to 72 wins, and it might eventually come back to bite them from the standpoint of retaining their own younger players. It’s tough to get out of that cycle, as we well know.

  251. Jim S. says:

    I heard the WSJ scooped the Huffington Post.

  252. theplanisworking says:

    And they scooped Bleacher Report………

  253. Milo Hamilton says:

    Just read the WSJ story. Stewart has already been told he’s the backup.

  254. theplanisworking says:

    Wild Bill………….

    I saw your post above stating it was tough to find Pitt basketball where you live. Try ESPN# .com. You can find a lot of telecasts there on the computer.

  255. Milo Hamilton says:

    It’s a viscous circle, isn’t it ? :)

  256. theplanisworking says:

    Clearly. :)

    Do you have any more college AD’s you can scoop everybody with? You were spot on with Haden, now that he has hired Steve Sarkisian as football coach. I know you called out Ollie Luck too. ;)

  257. Milo Hamilton says:

    I think Sark is a pretty good hire. He did resurrect the dead at Washington.

  258. theplanisworking says:

    Was Sarkisian Pete Carroll’s assistant?
    If so, I can see the hire.

    I do feel kinda bad for Orgeron.

  259. Milo Hamilton says:

    He’ll probably stay. They both worked on Carroll’s staff. But then again, so did Lame Kiffin.

  260. Naterosboro says:

    Well, here I am, years after calling for the head of Bruce Arians…

    calling for the head of Todd Haley.

    My main issue with Arians’ offenses were that they couldn’t put up points consistent with the talent on the field. Well, Haley has a similar level of talent, and is producing less. It seems the only time the offense can get in rhythm is when they go no-huddle, with the Qb doing the play-calling.

    I was in favor of the hire sans Roethlisberger’s feelings because I thought it may help our QB “grow up” in a professional sense. You may not like everyone you work with, but it’s important to have a respect level, and to work together as a team to achieve a goal (whatever that is in any workplace). With that said, some people just don’t fit.

    It seems to me Todd Haley’s play-calling has become a big issue. And now, I may be siding with the QB on the workplace demeanor element.

    I think it’s the best thing for this football team to move on from Haley at the end of the season. If there were results behind all of the locker room and off-field incidents, you could give him a pass.

    I’d say it’s easier to find a new OC that can work with Ben and produce results than it is to find a new franchise signal caller (No matter how many good years he [Roethlisberger] has left (which I think is at least 3-4)).

    It’s cliche, but the NFL really does stand for “Not For Long”. Time to move on.

  261. theplanisworking says:

    + a whole bunch for the Lame Kiffin. :)

  262. theplanisworking says:

    Damn Jandy Typos!

  263. Jim S. says:

    Bucs just signed a guy from the Czech Republic.

    And some people think the Pens are much more in need of a good check.

  264. theplanisworking says:

    Pirates signed Jagr?
    Or did they sign a bounced Czech?? ;)

  265. Thundercrack says:

    Scott Kazmir gets $11 million per year – for two years.
    Risky. Very risky for Oakland

  266. Wild Bill says:

    Thanks, Hippo!

  267. theplanisworking says:

    I use here a lot.
    It is a life saver.

  268. theplanisworking says:


  269. Bizrow says:

    The market is getting silly. Not good news for our PBC

  270. Jandy says:

    silly or stupid?

  271. 21sthebest says:

    I think for the most part the market is relative to the new revenues coming in for all teams.

  272. theplanisworking says:

    I’ll take both for 50, please. :)

  273. Thundercrack says:

    That may be 21. But if the figure of $25 million per team is correct for next year. The A’s just took a chance with 44% of that on Kazmir.

    Just because teams have more money – – I still the think the market is crazy. Usually I think teams have given too many years. On this one I think maybe too much money. ( but I would probably rather have Kazmir than Colon)

  274. Jandy says:

    Derrick Pouliot invited to Team Canada’s National Junior Team Selection Camp:

  275. Bizrow says:

    Thats 25 million per year, right?

    But still 5.5 per two years is a big gamble for a fellow with his track record

  276. Bizrow says:

    Sorry, misread, I thought Kazmir was getting 11 for two years, holey crap.

    No way AJ resigns with the PBC

  277. 21sthebest says:

    Agreed but revenues are going up into the future too.

    The way I look at it, if the teams can afford what they’re paying players, so be it. That’s the market. I don’t see teams going bankrupt left and right and I don’t see a whole lot of risk in these contracts to the overall financial situation of a specific team. And if an owner doesn’t like where things are going, it’s easy enough to sell.

  278. Jim S. says:

    Now, I see why Johnson was so valued. He is banking a lot on a bounce back season, followed by a huge contract next winter. He only wanted one year and $8 million. He could have probably gotten 2 from some team.

  279. theplanisworking says:

    Biz, this is yet another reason that the refusal to tender AJ the $14 million qualifying offer is a head scratcher.

  280. Bizrow says:

    Then the “internal value” numbers have to be revised. Not shooting at Federal Street, but I think they might have a very hard time adapting their figures.

    @Roger – Yeah, that makes the non-qualifying offer even more squirrely.

    Its only December, but doncha think we need a wee bit more pitching depth?

  281. Thundercrack says:

    Kazmir really bounced back. He made a $1 million on a minor league deal in 2013

  282. Thundercrack says:

    In the article where the Rockies owner ‘opened the books’. I was surprised that their non-player salary expense was $25 million.

  283. Thundercrack says:

    I agree to an extent with you 21. Teams aren’t going bankrupt, but they may be going in debt.
    And even though the revenues are increasing I just hate when mediocrity is rewarded with big bucks.

    But then again, as our friend says “it’s monopoly money”

  284. 21sthebest says:

    I hear you TC but in my view, us fans are largely responsible. That’s why I don’t complain about salaries.

    Btw the app is working!

  285. Arriba Wilver says:

    Agree about Hershel. Scott Wilson has come a long way from his performance in In Cold Blood.

    Also agree with Plan about AJ’s non-tender of the qualifying offer.

    I also liked Paul Walker in Joyride.

  286. theplanisworking says:

    The insane money being given to pitchers may be a delayed reaction to the PED saga. Teams are throwing $$$$ at pitchers, because they see declining #’s from hitters. ( I always thought PED’s benefitted hitter more than pitchers). But some of these deals are goofy.

    One AJ Burnett might be sitting at home seeing this.
    Doesnt bear well for the PBC.

    Remember when people said the TV money would help the Bucs?
    Just not enough.

  287. theplanisworking says:

    The insane money being given to pitchers may be a delayed reaction to the PED saga. Teams are throwing $$$$ at pitchers, because they see declining #’s from hitters. ( I always thought PED’s benefitted hitter more than pitchers). But some of these deals are goofy.

    One AJ Burnett might be sitting at home seeing this.
    Doesnt bear well for the PBC.

    Remember when people said the TV money would help the Bucs?
    Just not enough.

  288. Jim S. says:

    Thanks, Arriba! I was beginning to think I was the only one here who enjoyed a little Sunday night zombie killing! Scott Wilson was great on that show as Hershel. The English actor (his name is currently escaping me) who played the Governor was also terrific.

  289. 21sthebest says:

    I thought they’d have a better chance of re-signing AJ if they didn’t extend him the qualifying offer rather than if they did.

  290. Arriba Wilver says:

    Jim–I thought that was the most powerful episode since the one where they opened Hershel’s barn and Rick shot Sophie in the head. Although there have been lots.

  291. Arriba Wilver says:

    Do you still think that, with the numbers that are happening?

  292. Jim S. says:

    It was intense. Hershel getting beheaded? No way I was prepared for that. And Michonne putting the long blade right through the Governor’s back? They keep upping the ante on that show.

    Now, we have to wait until Feb.

  293. Arriba Wilver says:

    David Morrissey, and I agree. And he did some of his best work this season.

  294. Jim S. says:


    I believe the stated extra TV money is $25M per season. TC is saying Oakland just ponied up 44% of that money for this year and next for Kazmir (2 x $11M).

  295. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t know what’s going through AJ’s mind. If he’s grateful to the organization for bringing him here and revitalizing his career, then I think they have a good chance of re-signing him. If he’s going for the money grab, then no.

    Maybe he told them not to extend him the qualifying offer and they obliged just so that it didn’t limit his opportunities.

  296. Bizrow says:

    Who knows? AJ might have been pee-od if they had stuck it on him, it would have severely limited his options

  297. Bizrow says:

    Sorry 21, stepped on your thoughts ;-)

  298. Jim S. says:

    Don’t know where this will end up, but I am responding to plan.

    I agree with you that they should have tendered AJ. I thought $14M was going to be fair value or even a bargain at the time.

    I can only conclude that they decided $14M was more than they could allocate, even for one season, whether it was fair market value or not. So, they did not want to risk that AJ would take it and instead have offered him an amount less than that. Essentially, they have asked him for a home town discount. He has not said no yet. Will they up their offer as time goes on if they miss out on other targets? That is the $64K question.

  299. Bizrow says:

    PEDs also help you heal and regain your strength quicker

    That and increase your hat size

  300. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t see how the qualifying offer would have limited his options. He could have just turned it down, like every other player.

  301. Jim S. says:

    Yes, that’s him. David Morrissey. Do you watch that Talking Dead show after each episode? They usually have one of the cast members on. Hershel was on with Maggie last night. She’s rather attractive, I must say. I don’t want to see Maggie getting bitten by a zombie any time soon.

    A whole bunch of the actors are British.

  302. Bizrow says:

    Imagine what Liriano will get if he puts another 2013 season together this coming summer

  303. theplanisworking says:

    +1 Arriba.

    I stated last week that with the goofy money going around, I think AJ will get a $19 million contract. Not from the Pirates…………. but if he decides to get the $$$, he will get it.

  304. Arriba Wilver says:

    I did watch it last night, but not usually. Yes, she is attractive. I first saw her in Supernatural. But despite her British accent, she was born in Philadelphia, lived in Jersey for awhile and then moved to England. Not sure what that makes her, but she’s eligible to be President. ;-)

  305. 21sthebest says:

    That draft pick could scare away some teams.

  306. Jim S. says:

    I have a friend who suggested to me that with the Steelers recent drafting performance, proper punishment might actually be to give us an EXTRA pick. We might make another awful pick and keep him around for 3-4 years. :-)

  307. 21sthebest says:

    Not at all Biz.

  308. theplanisworking says:

    Wonder if hat companies are in cahoots with PED manufacturers? ;)

  309. theplanisworking says:

    If we have to forfeit a pick, can we forfeit Landry Jones?

    Was any rationale ever given for drafting him?

  310. Jim S. says:

    Good point, Biz. That’s why Taillon, Glasnow and Kingham are so important – among others.

  311. Arriba Wilver says:

    But Rick (Andrew Lincoln) is British.

  312. Arriba Wilver says:

    Good point.

  313. Jim S. says:

    Who knows, but that was like something Cleveland would do.

  314. NMR says:

    Is everybody forgetting about Burnett’s own demands?

    His market is realistically three teams.

    Qualifying offer would’ve done nothing except set a MINIMUM amount at whic he could resign witht he Pirates.

  315. Jim S. says:

    If so, the hat companies are now stuck with a lot of rapidly aging 8 3/8 sized Giants hats.

  316. Thundercrack says:

    If AJ was/is going to get a contract for $19 million , then he, his agent and the Pirates know it won’t be with the Pirates. No matter what that price is out of their range.

  317. Thundercrack says:

    Do you think if another team outside AJ’s geographical preference offered him a very big contract
    $17-$20 million that he wouldn’t take it?

  318. theplanisworking says:

    I was thinking a size 10.
    I wear a 9, no steroids.


  319. Jim S. says:

    I didn’t know she had spent so much time in the US. She doesn’t have nearly as heavy an accent as some of the others. Andrew Lincoln has a thick, British accent. But, he sure comes off believable in his Georgian accent. I think the blond, Beth, is also English or Australian. I could be wrong about that.

  320. Naterosboro says:

    Pirates minor-leaguer Evan Chambers has passed away at age 24. No details for his death were given in this article from Tim Williams at P2 other than to say Phil Irwin tweeted he died in his sleep. From all accounts, he was a good ball player, but an all-around awesome person by everyone that met him. Thoughts and condolences to the Chambers’ family and Pirates’ family in a tough time.


  321. NMR says:

    No, I don’t think he would.

    Nor do I think any team will be offering anything close to $19m.

  322. NMR says:

    I don’t believe players who have accumulated over $120m throughout their career and are actively considering retirement in order to be with family not only get lured back into baseball, but further away from their family over a couple millions bucks.

    The Pirates only competitor for AJ Burnett is AJ Burnett’s wife and kids.

  323. Milo Hamilton says:

    Well Plan, time for fallout. Ed Orgeron quit USC in a huff after they hired Steve Sarkisian today. Unintended consequences.

  324. Jim S. says:

    Orgeron could go to Oregon. Coach Orgeron of Oregon would be interesting, to say the least.

  325. Jim S. says:

    Sad is right. RIP.

  326. Thundercrack says:

    That is so sad.

    I believe that I have told this story before here on the blog.

    Two years ago I went to a spring training game. It was Bucs vs Rays at the Rays park. Me and my family stayed after the game and went to the gift shop. When we finally made our way through the parking lot we were walking beside a ‘kid’ with his parents. The kid had a duffel bag with a bat sticking out. So I asked “are you a Pirate”. He said that he was and his name was Evan Chambers. His mother piped up “Did you see that throw he made from right field?!” I said that I did and then I proceeded to tell him that I knew he was a high draft pick, etc…..
    When we got to our car I wished him luck. His mother yelled “We’ll see you in Pittsburgh in a few years!”.

    I always followed his stats. He had some tough years at the plate.

    That summer I was at a Q&A session with NH. I asked him if Chambers was a prospect and told him the story. He said that Evan and his family were the nicest people. He said that Chambers walked too much and is still learning that he may only get one good pitch to hit in an at-bat and that he has to take advantage of it to be ready to hit it.

    My condolences to his family.

    DK: Appreciate your sharing that, TC. Never heard a negative syllable about Chambers from anyone at any level of the Pirates.

  327. Jim S. says:

    Damn. Knew I should have gone bigger than that. :-)

  328. Jim S. says:

    What if the always desperate for pitching and located in AJ’s home state, Orioles, offered $16M, NMR? And, then told him he didn’t have to go on road trips except for the day he was pitching?

    And, then gave him a cut of Boog Powell’s BBQ place? Ok, forget that last part.

  329. Arriba Wilver says:

    Thanks for sharing, TC. There are no words . . .

  330. JohninOshkosh says:

    I hope, for Karma’s sake, Orgeron told Haden to meet him at a LAX conference room to tell him that he quit.

  331. theplanisworking says:

    I cant say I blame him.
    He saved that program this year.

    Interesting stuff, Milo.

  332. Milo Hamilton says:

    Good story by Stewart Mandel on the Sarkisian hire. Pretty much trashes Pat Haden. Therefore, I enjoyed it.

  333. Thundercrack says:

    I believe that AJ still wants to pitch. And he pitched well enough last year that he knows he won’t be just hanging on and most likely won’t embarrass himself.

    And I believe if a contending team offers him a contract that he is happy with, his active contemplation of retirement will be put off for another year.

  334. theplanisworking says:

    NMR you are 100% correct that the Pirates, and Orioles would never offer anything close to 419 million/year.

    The Nats might.
    They have the $$$$.
    And they need the pitching.

    That would be the only team that would offer that type of money. But they could do it.

  335. theplanisworking says:


  336. theplanisworking says:

    Incredibly sad.


  337. theplanisworking says:

    Yikes…. should be $19 million, not 419 million.

  338. Thundercrack says:

    Why wouldn’t a team offer AJ $17 million a year?

  339. NMR says:

    The Orioles are actively trying to trade their closer just to get a couple bucks to play with.

    They will not be offering anyone $16m for their services next year.

    I agree with Plan, that the Nats are the only realistic alternative, but they seem to have their sights set higher.

  340. Bizrow says:

    That was my point, it would limit his options

    And you don’t know whats in his thinking, he was miffed he did not get the start in game 5.

    I don’t disagree with CH on that.

    But, IMO, pride is one thing that makes AJ, well AJ

  341. Bizrow says:

    PEDs also make you grumpy

    Before anyone asks, no, I am not on PEDs

  342. Bizrow says:

    No one is promised tomorrow

  343. theplanisworking says:

    Searching where Pitt may go bowling…………

    Most sites have Pitt going to the Little Caesar’s Bowl, one Military bowl, and 2 people left Pitt off the bowl list.

  344. Bizrow says:

    Just so you know

    NH has a pass this off season, from this seat anyways

    He has grown as a PR guy, has definitely improved all aspects of the club and his game.

    But there are other sharp guys out there in the same position.

    In my former working life, I pulled some things off as well

    My boss said, great job Biz, gotta pull another one off tomorrow…

    My message is NH, I will never forget the magic of 13, good for you and thank you


  345. Jim S. says:

    Wonderful story, TC. Thanks for sharing. You never know which day might be your last.

  346. Isn’t that Pizza thing in Detroit or some other arctic city?

  347. Milo Hamilton says:

    Their punishment for going 6-6. Again.

  348. theplanisworking says:

    Yes reverend, it is in Detroit.
    It was formerly known as the Motor City Bowl, before that, the Cherry Bowl.

    I think the winning team gets pizza.
    No money, just pizza.

  349. Bizrow says:


    Mediocrity should not always get reward.

    Just sayin

  350. Lad 9 says:

    Set shot?? You may want to watch him closer. Or take a look at the Duquesne – St Bonaventure highlights on You Tube. You don’t have to go too far in to see a couple of jumpers. Maybe we just see it different 21.

  351. Lad 9 says:


  352. Thundercrack says:

    So if there really is a geographical boundary as to where AJ Burnett will pitch next year, one of those teams just traded for Doug Fister. The Nationals.

  353. Drew71 says:

    Doug Fister began his career in Seattle.

    Probably where AJ will end his.

    Just to p*** off his wife.

    I would.

  354. Milo Hamilton says:

    Only 67 offensive lineman have played 100% of their team’s snaps this year. One of them is Willie Colon. SMH.

  355. Jim S. says:

    Nationals trade for Doug Fister of the Tigers.

    The Tigers received 2 LHP, 22 year olds Robbie Ray and Ian Krol, along with 25 year old back-up infielder Steve Lombardozzi. Ray was considered the #5 prospect for Washington, but is not a lock to remain a starter, and Krol is projected as a lefty specialist. Lombardozzi is not much of a hitter.

    This is a real head scratcher. Fister has 2 more years at arbitration rates, so he will make less than market value. And Washington did not really have to part with much.

    I wonder how much of an effort Dave Dombrowski made to trade Fister before accepting this deal. He just got fleeced.

  356. Jim S. says:

    I guess Detroit is not all that impressed with the new TV money because they seem to be shedding contracts left and right.

  357. Arriba Wilver says:

    They were 5th, with the big boys on the east coast and LA. Not sure you can read much about the new money into what Detroit is doing.

  358. theplanisworking says:

    Maybe they have an issue with players whose last name begins with “F” ??

    Dombrowski isnt giving Ausmus much huh? Trading Fielder and Fister, , dont know. Unless they are going to break the bank with Scherzer…………..

    Ah, problems you will never have to worry about with the Bucs……………………….

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