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Morning Java: Long roads ahead

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> Spent much of Monday in planning meetings for the Olympics and Bradenton and NCAAs and Winnipeg and beyond. Some might be surprised at how far out a lot of stuff has to get set up, especially as it relates to travel and other logistics.

And that’s not even mentioning Stanley Cup playoffs, which in the past have eaten up April and May.

I’ll share our Olympic plans with you in this space a week from today.

>> Speaking of long roads ahead, Beau Bennett’s long-term injury has put the Penguins in quite the quandary, Rob Rossi reports.

Here’s our full Penguins coverage.

Here’s Capitals news from the Washington Post.

Here are official game highlights from, including the Jets’ rousing debut under Paul Maurice. Sometimes it really is the coaching. We’ll see in this case.

>> Pitt tips off against Georgia Tech tonight in Atlanta. Kevin Gorman will be there.

>> Antonio Brown makes All-AFC, by Alan Robinson.

Here are official game highlights from

>> Clint Hurdle talks Pirates with the fans. Travis Sawchik crashes the party.

>> Larry Johnson Jr. leaves Penn State football. Chris Adamski spoke with him.

More on Penn State from John Fedko and John Steigerwald, head-to-head on TribLIVE Radio yesterday …

>> Best wishes to my man Radio Wave, who bid us farewell in the comments here yesterday. I won’t find words to tell you how much I’ve appreciated his contributions over the years — always critical in the very best sense of the term — as well as the work he did with our tech people to help others like him who have to work a little harder to connect with the Internet world. He’s been tremendous. He’ll be missed.

>> I’ll be back with the TribLIVE Radio show tomorrow, as well as day-long coverage of Penguins-Capitals over at Consol.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Eugene DeCarpio says:

    Now that the Whiz is moving on to TN, do you envision losing Butler to the Titans as DC? LeBeau has earned the right to continue his processes, but at what expense? I see the over / under at three years; keeping LeBeau at the DC position allows us to develop another coordinator.

    Please post your thoughts.

    DK: There was word late last night that Ken Whisenhunt would like to have Keith Butler be his DC in Nashville, but that would have to come with the Steelers’ permission. Could be interesting.

  2. Ghost says:

    In that case, the Steelers really need to act now, for their future. Make Butler the DC, put that “Emeritus” designation onto LeBeau’s title, and move the latter upstairs.

    Separately, just read above about Radio Wave has signing off. He takes a little piece of the Blog with him. Fair well, Radio Wave.

  3. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Nothing against Keith Butler, but I’ve never been as enamoured with him as most.
    When a team is 8-8 two years in a row, there is nobody doing an overly outstanding job.
    I’d rather Butler stayed, but maybe the Steeler defense needs some new players AND new ideas.

    In the meantime….I wish for just one minute that Ken Whisenhunt could have an original idea that didn’t include the Pittsburgh Steelers.

  4. Brandie says:


    Quite sad to hear that Coach Johnson is leaving the program. He is going to be missed. Talk about success with honor…a gentleman and a class act.

    That was glassy of you to give a well deserved shout out to Radio Wave. He, among others, made me feel welcome always. May peace and success be with you now and forever Radio.

  5. Drew71 says:

    Radio Wave. And Larry Johnson.

    That’s all I have.

  6. 21sthebest says:

    “Quick, what’s the greatest NFL controversy ever? Even one?
    How about the NHL?”

    By the same token DK, Maz’s homerun, Bobby Thomson’s home run, Kirk Gibson’s, Willie Mays’ catch, Don Larsen’s perfect game, Carlton Fisk waving it fair, Cal Ripken’s streak, does the NFL and NHL have comparable talked about moments?

    DK: Immaculate Reception, The Catch, Ice Bowl, Bobby Orr’s flying goal, Lemieux’s return game, Gretzky’s 802nd … so, yes.

    Also, that’s really got nothing to do with what was above.

  7. Vette60 says:

    Real quick off the top of my head, in a minute…NFL – Immaculate Reception. Joe Montana’s “Drive” in the Superbowl to beat the Bengals. NHL – Gotta be Bobby Orr’s goal to win the Cup. Geez, they even made a statue out of that one…

    That’s that I think of that are really iconic moments that one can think of in a similar light.

    Take care.


  8. Drew71 says:


    Vanderjagt Wide Right.

    A Moment for the Ages.

    Well. For something.

  9. 21sthebest says:


  10. 21sthebest says:

    I’d go with the Catch, the Immaculate Reception, the Ice Bowl, and I really couldn’t name any in hockey.

  11. JAL says:

    JAL’s The Blacksmith Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 MLB Important Dates

    4 Pirates Prospects Spring Training Tracker

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Top Prospects: #15 – Joely Rodriguez

    First Pitch: Changing My View on Neil Walker

    Pirates Announce 2014 Minor League Managers and Coaches

    6 Rumbunter

    Edinson Volquez Reclamation Project

    7 Bucs Dugout

    A guess at the Pirates’ 25-man roster

    8 Green Weenie

    1/13: Odell Jones, Swede & Lucky, Elmer Dessens, Ryan Church

    9 Amazin’ Avenue

    2013 Mets Season Review: Marlon Byrd

    10 Redbird Rants

    The Business of Baseball Series: Major League Service Time

    11 Pirates 101

    Analyzing the Pittsburgh Pirates’ 2014 Schedule: April

  12. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    12 KDKA

    Gallo Goes There: What Makes A Great Sports Town?

    13 Los Angeles Times

    Joe Morgan still has a lot to offer baseball,0,4730960.column#axzz2qN6qSUyP

    14 Business Week

    Major League Baseball’s Anthony Bosch Problem Is Not Going Away

    15 Palm Beach Post

    Dave George: How will A-Rod be remembered in baseball history? He won’t event count

    16 Cardboard Connection

    2014 Topps Finest Baseball Cards

    17 Fansided

    America’s Game: Baseball or Football?

    18 Baseball Nation

    Alex Rodriguez, ’60 Minutes’, and what MLB is hoping to accomplish

    19 Fangraphs

    Throwing and Not Throwing Balls in the Dirt

    20 Baseball Prospectus

    Fantasy Tier Rankings Catchers

  13. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    When it comes to explaining playoff seeds, don’t shirk your responsibility as a football fan

    Steelers 2014 Roster Projections: Quarterbacks

    Steelers 2014 Roster Projections: Running backs

    Steelers 2014 Roster Projections: Wide receivers

    22 Steelers Depot

    The Terrible Podcast – Talking Playoff Games, Steelers News, Kelvin Benjamin & Reader Emails Episode


    23 Bloomberg Stats Insight

    Premier League Top Scorers: Suarez Scores Again

    24 The Telegraph

    Aston Villa 1 Arsenal 2: match report


    25 Pensburgh

    Pens Points Monday: Pens Leaders Speaking Up

  14. Drew71 says:

    Hockey, but not NHL…

    Do you believe in miracles? YES!

  15. Jandy says:

    My most memorable NHL moments, other than the Pens winning the Stanley Cup 3 times, would be Mario Lemieux coming back from hodgkins’ and playing again, even after getting radiation treatments, scoring a goal and an assist.

    And Mark Messier promising the Rangers fans that his team would beat the devils to advance to the SC Finals. And he then scored a hat trick, and the Rangers won.

    A non-happy memory is Konstantinov of the Detroit Red Wings winning the Cup with the Wings (not sure of the year) and then being in a horrible car accident which left him mostly paralyzed.

    And a fun memory is the “pajama game” (my term for it) between the Capitals and the Pens, when Petr Nedved scored the winning goal in the 4th overtime…

  16. Jandy says:

    Best hockey moment ever!

  17. Drew71 says:

    Considering the times, I think it was bigger than and beyond just a hockey moment.

  18. Brandie says:

    I am still tired from watching the pajama game.

  19. Drew71 says:

    AFTER that moment I had what Dejan might label Hockey Angst. (If he even recognizes the term.)

    I thought…crap…that wasn’t for the Gold. If they don’t beat the Fins, will this even be remembered?

    See? Even in the 80s. I was an idiot.

  20. Jandy says:

    indeed. But 21 started a sports (NFL, NHL, MLB) category :)

  21. Jandy says:

    Misguided. never an idiot :*

  22. Jandy says:

    LOL Sistah! That was sooooo much fun, tho :)


  24. Wild Bill says:

    Hearing that Johnson is leaving was bad. Hearing that he’s replacing Mike Vrabel at Ohio State was worse.

  25. Karen22 says:

    Popping in to say, “Ciao” to Radio Wave. BUMMER! All the best and God Bless. Hope all is OK with you!


  26. Radio Wave,

    I appreciated your take on sports and that you were an Iowa stud, since I lived there for almost a decade. When you spoke or I replied to you, I could picture the beautiful lands outside your window.

    You are a gentleman.

  27. Sad to see him go.

    He was upset over the Belichek bashing over the weekend. Hope that isn’t the reason.

  28. Jim S. says:

    Really? OSU?

  29. Jim S. says:

    I thought that game would never end, Jandy. I just couldn’t stop watching.

  30. Jandy says:

    Me neither, Jm! I got next to zero sleep, still sent to work, and put in 9 hours lol.
    I was going on adrenaline, I think. The guys were so tired, they could barely skate at times, let alone shoot a puck very hard. Totally loved it!

  31. Wild Bill says:

    Looks like it, as per report on PennLive.

  32. Wild Bill says:

    Never good to lose a fellow or sister blogger, whatever the reason.

  33. Maybe he’s fed up with not being named head coach again. Glad to have him at OSU. Definite need there.

  34. Jim S. says:

    Interesting stretch for Pitt hoops beginning tonight, I think. GA Tech just beat ND over the weekend, and is probably feeling better about itself heading into this one. Pitt will be adjusting to life w/o “The Microwave” Durand Johnson, and I still say that will be a tough hole to fill. Jones and Newkirk need to step up. I think Pitt pulls out a 71-63 win tonight to go 4-0.

    But, then the ACC road gets a little testy:

    At Cuse – I’ll chalk that one up as a loss
    Home vs. Clemson – I’ll mark that down as a W.
    at Maryland – They play better at home, so it could be tough. But, I’ll give the Panthers a W.
    Duke – Home. It’s Duke, so it will be a tough one to win.
    Virginia – Home. Very solid team, much in the gritty Pitt mold.

    I’ll say the Panthers will split the two games with Duke and Maryland to come out of this stretch at 7-2 in the ACC. But, if they falter tonight, that could set them back going into this tough stretch of games.

    I’m going to try to get home on business next week, so I can take in my first ever game at The Pete. I haven’t finalized yet, but I’m starting to look forward to it.

  35. pattonbb says:

    radio wave is a die hard Pats fan. Hope that didn’t run him away. He’s been around since this thing’s inception at the other place.

    Great baseball guy.

  36. Jandy says:

    some people have more patience, some have less.
    When it comes to waiting, EYE have NONE

  37. Wild Bill says:

    That’s very likely, Lucky. LJ is a fine line coach and recruiter. PSU didn’t see him (twice) as head coach material. Feeling rejected is natural, but it isn’t like he’s gonna succeed Urban at OSU. He’s 61 right now.

    Recruiting battles between OSU and PSU staffs will get even more interesting, and Urban has won most of them recently.

  38. What is the situation with the assistants? Does Franklin want his own guys or does he have much say about it?

  39. JohninOshkosh says:

    Lots of good college basketball tonight. Got the Pitt/Georgia Tech game. Unfortunately, doesn’t start until 9:00 for you Eastern folks. But should be a good test going into this weekend’s big match. Really sucks about Durand. When he was firing, Pitt was much harder to defend and beat. Not sure if anyone else has the goods to contribute in the manner he did. But, even without him, a solid club.

    Other interesting games tonight include Oklahoma at Kansas State, Butler at Creighton and, oh yea, Wisconsin (3) at Indiana.

    I saw the second half of the Syracuse game last night. They just toyed with Boston College. Went on a 16-1 run and that was the end of it. Hope Pitt isn’t looking ahead to that game to the detriment of its focus on Georgia Tech.

    We’re supposed to get dumped on with snow today. Good day to work and a good evening for college basketball.

    And, Planisworking, the Bucks are now 7-30. lol.

  40. Jandy says:

    ABP out for Theplanisworking…aka Hipposter…

  41. JohninOshkosh says:

    Is there anything more enjoyable in life than NOT being a Cubs fan ?

    They unveiled a mascot yesterday, named Clark. It looks suspiciously like “Poochie”, the ill-fated added character on the “Itchy and Scratchy” show on “The Simpsons.” Poochie

    I like this tweet from The Wrigley Blog:

    The Wrigley Blog ‏@TheWrigleyBlog

    Because it’s better to focus on a mascot than the fact that it’s been 5 years since the Cubs were above .500 anytime after April

  42. Wild Bill says:

    He has spoken about being very loyal to his current assistants. How many of them are coming is not yet known, but most of them have ties to Pa. It seems like he has been given the freedom to pick his staff as he chooses. And he did meet with Johnson twice, according to reports.

  43. JAL says:

    I think Radio is just cutting back on some things. He also discontinued Facebook but he he had a 20 game plan for the Pirates this season so look for him at PNC

  44. JAL says:

    That is he has a 20 game plan

  45. Jandy says:

    Thanks, JAL :)

  46. Patrick(RI) says:

    Ran your intervew with M&C. What a pleasure to watch a show that put forth intelligent/fun questions, then let the interviewees actually answer them! Good show. JAL.

  47. A1C McG says:

    I hate to go out of pittsburgh for references but what about John Elway’s drive

  48. And now that Penn State has a new football coach, I would also hope that the NCAA will now ease up some more on those stupid sanctions and allow the Nittany Lions to compete in a bowl once again. The NCAA has said that they’ll consider doing that when they meet in August, and PSU is said to be hopeful that will happen.

  49. I miss the gray men instead of this blue thingee!

  50. Jandy says:

    everything is allowed :)

  51. One of best games I ever watched.

    Not for skill, but for effort. They never quit trying, even when it seemed they were playing in s-l-o-w m-o-t-i-o-n.

    Now, dos guys . . . they be afletes! How could I consider going to bed when they kept TRYING.

  52. theplanisworking says:

    I remember the announcers saying that there was nowhere to get food for the players. They ordered pizzas, but the shop closed!

    I immediately fell asleep after it was over……

  53. Jandy says:

    Ok Pens recall F Nick Drazenovic (wonder if he related to Dejan)??

  54. theplanisworking says:

    Oshie, I knew the Bucks were going to be bad, but I never expected this bad. Don’t worry, Sixers have lost 4 in a row……… those two teams can play together in the basement………..

    I am curiously watching the standings for the Nawlins Pelicans.
    Due to that goofy trade between the teams, Nawlins draft pick is semi-protected. I think they have to finish 7th or higher for Philly to get their pick. I honestly don’t know what compensation Philly gets if Nawlins finishes 6th or better. Do you have any ideas on this?

  55. Jandy says:

    There you are!

    I slept very little…but somehow managed to get to work and put in a full day…I was a bit younger then too, tho ;)

  56. Steve says:

    Pretty good analysis Jim. Really interested to see how they perform tonight, on the road, especially with Syracuse looming on Saturday. Does the fact that they finally broke into the top 25 work to their advantage or do they get a little complacent as a result. I’ll take the Panthers most of the time when they are at home. Any road win is a good win. I’ll predict a much closer score tonight than the first three ACC games but think the Panthers have enough to come away with the “W.”

  57. theplanisworking says:

    If it’s an All Pirates Bulletin, as Groat says…….. you have to wait 30 more days. ;)

  58. For the first 32 minutes of the game last night, Boston College took it to Syracuse. There was no toying.

    Then came the 16 – 1 run where Syracuse ratcheted up their defense and BC could not get the ball past the top of the key. They must have had 6 straight turnovers. Syracuse scores best in open court and the defense created a number of easy baskets for the Orange.

    Syracuse is good, real good, but if someone controls the tempo and attacks that zone properly without losing their cool, Syracuse can be had.

    If the zone causes you to lose focus with the ball, let the toying begin!

  59. theplanisworking says:

    3rd cousin on his father’s side from Starbucks………

  60. Jandy says:


    LOL ya nut!

  61. Jandy says:

    ahhhh….that splains it!

  62. Jandy says:

    OK gotta go let Shelby out (the dog, not the car)
    see Yinz later :)

  63. Drewmeister,

    Was it the ’80’s in which you got married?

  64. Jim S. says:

    I hope you weren’t juicing, Jandy. :-)

  65. Jim S. says:

    plural vs Cleveland, A1C.

  66. Jim S. says:

    I meant split the 2 games with Duke and VA.

  67. Jim S. says:

    On that Butler vs. Creighton game, Osh – Butler better get its act together fast. 0-4 in the New Big East right now. The coach went to the pro’s, and it seems like he took the mojo with him. I’ll be surprised if they are a strong program a couple of years from now.

  68. theplanisworking says:

    Pizza Enhancing Drugs, Jim?? ;)

  69. Can’t wait to hear Dejan’s plans for “Bradenton” as mentioned above.

    At least it is the 2nd of his 4 priorities listed above. Thank the Lord!

    [Probably because of Mixons, not the Buccos!!]

  70. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hey John,

    Mike Seidel is in Oshkosh. You’re doomed !

  71. Thundercrack says:

    Ron Cook is saying there are Pirate players that do not like AJ Burnett and don’t like being around him. And he thinks the manager also feels the same way.

    DK: Wow.

  72. Milo Hamilton says:

    Not the first time I’ve heard that. I’ve always believed they were done with him the minute he stormed out of Hurdle’s office after Game 4.

  73. 21sthebest says:

    But is there angst?

  74. pattonbb says:

    Agreed. “AJ’s not available” = AJ won’t be around next year.

    His antics were growing old last year, and I’m an AJ fan. I think you can only show up your manager so many times before you are told to move on. Regardless to how many K’s you have.

  75. bpn8pitt says:

    I always thought the “mentor” thing that was always mentioned may have been overstated a lot…But i liked the swagger he brought. Something that was sorely lacking with the franchise for a long time.

  76. Arriba Wilver says:

    No question he was a positive influence overall.

  77. Milo Hamilton says:

    He’s standing on Lake Winnebago (No, he can’t walk on water).

  78. That’s a Gravatar logo.

  79. Strange. The WC people think they can.

    Bet they’re excited about another upcoming catastrophic storm.

  80. JohninOshkosh says:

    Ha! I see that. He’s out on the lake. I just drove out there the other day to ice fish. Funny.

    Not too bad here, really. Kids had school so it can’t be too bad.

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    I dare say he was more responsible than any other single player for their turnaround. That said, he comes with an expiration date. I could put up with another year of his antics, but it’s becoming more obvious every day that management can’t.

  82. NMR says:


  83. JohninOshkosh says:

    I know that guy who pulls vehicles out of the lake. Neat guy.

  84. NMR says:

    Completely agreed, Milo, and that last sentence is a problem.

  85. 21sthebest says:

    I still think AJ likes the idea of showing up on a white horse sometime in early May to make his first start.

  86. Jim S. says:

    I thought it was a a big deal when AJ went berserk because he didn’t get to start that last game. I remember a lot of people saying that he was a professional and that he would put it behind him for 2014. Well, maybe he did put it behind, but the manager didn’t.

    I appreciate what AJ has done the last 2 years in terms of being a solid, accountable pitcher start after start. But, that’s easy for me to say. There is obviously more to being a teammate than just how you perform on the field. If your act gets old in the clubhouse, it won’t work well.

    I guess we don’t know if that is the case. They are at least publicly saying they want him back. I don’t know that I’ve heard Hurdle say that yet, though. Huntington keeps saying it.

  87. PetroSteel says:

    I’ll take one more year of AJ.

    I don’t think its everyone that doesnt like him. I’ll saw a tweet exchange between him and Walker a few days ago that showed me that they like eachother and Walker is well liked by all. I know AJ connects with Cutch and Petro. I’ve seen it. AJ is tight with Locke. I’m not buying what Cooke says.

    What I am buying is that AJ still wants to pitch for the Pirates but hasnt seen a respectable offer in the 10M range. I honestly think that AJ would be difficult to replace and that they really need him to go further in 2014 then they did in 2013.

  88. Wild Bill says:

    Sometimes, for real fun, it helps to go reading at sports. Found out today that Chase Utley believes that the Phils can contend this year. In other Phils news, they have signed Ronny Cedeno. No doubt it was that signing that made Chase a believer.

    I’ve also had fun reading about the dust up the Flyers had with the Rangers the other night, with the former Flyer, newly acquired Dan Carcillo in the middle of it. Remember when Holmgren traded for Carcillo and told all of Philly, “You’re gonna love this guy!”? Wonder how much they’re still lovin’ him?

  89. Arriba Wilver says:

    Read the article linked in DK’s post about Hurdle. Closest I’ve seen to Hurdle saying they want him back, IF he wants to come back.

  90. NMR says:

    All I know is I’d much rather have a guy who gets pissed about not getting the ball in a big game than a guy who gets pissed about the general manager not getting enough outside help.

    I’ve seen too many Pirates happy to give the ball up, happy just to be there over the years.

  91. Arriba Wilver says:

    Interesting point in there was they did look into keeping Morneau, but $13 mil guaranteed for 2 years was too rich for them.

    I’m guessing Frank has already called him about that one.

    Hi Frank!

  92. Jandy says:

    Carcillo should never be allowed to put on an NHL sweater. he’s a disgrace.

  93. Jandy says:

    Don’t forget the trumpets ;)

  94. Jandy says:

    LOL I guess coffee is a buzz drink…so I was juicing :P

  95. Jim S. says:

    Of course, if that is the only issue with AJ. None of us really knows.

    This could all just be about AJ believing he is not being offered fair market value. Or, it could all be about his wife convincing them that the $120M he has already earned in his career gives him the flexibility of being a stay at home dad. Or, it could be about him not really wanting to go through the full spring training. Or, he could just be sick of baseball at 37.

    But, it could be that being angry about not getting the ball for that last game is the tip of the iceberg. There could be a lot more incidents where he showed up the manager than the one we saw in the dugout and the one we saw where he snapped at Barmes on the field over positioning, then denied it. I think it may be a bit of a leap to assume the only issue is that AJ is just a fierce competitor. Sometimes the fiercest competitors are also the biggest pains in the butt on the team. And, sometimes there’s a limit.

    As I said, I don’t know. At some point, I assume we’ll find out.

  96. Bizrow says:

    Sorry to see the news on Radio, that is a loss. For all of us

  97. Jim S. says:

    So, then, you’d like to see the Pens get him in a deadline deal?

  98. Jim S. says:

    I was not in favor of signing Morneau for ’14/’15 for the money he got from Colorado. I would have been ok with him as a platoon guy, but not as a starter.

    That said, it would not surprise me if he puts up pretty good numbers in that park in CO.

  99. Jim S. says:

    ++, Arriba.

  100. Jim S. says:

    Agreed. The snowmen had a bit of character, I thought.

  101. Milo Hamilton says:

    So the Lions hired Jim Caldwell. Another historically bad franchise makes a bad coaching hire. But here’s the worse news Lions fans, they’ll get another chance to screw it up a few short years from now.

  102. theplanisworking says:

    Aj, if he is pitching this year, will be pitching for either the Orioles, or Natinals.

  103. Jim S. says:

    Mmm … pizza!

  104. theplanisworking says:

    Just wait til the Vikings, and Browns make their announcements.
    I am sure they will be worse.
    Whoever Cleveland hires, that coach should rent, not buy a house.

  105. Jim S. says:

    Sid’s Olympics clincher?

  106. bpn8pitt says:

    You would think as flush as some of these teams are with cash, someone would have made a run at him by now. Considering he wants to say close to home, he limits his options. Maybe teams like Pittsburgh, Washington and Baltimore have moved on. Now he’s really limited his options.

    My guess is he gets the itch when the weather breaks. And hopefully not for Cincy or St Louis…Thought he would be lights out for the Cards in the 4th or 5th slot.

  107. Milo Hamilton says:

    Looks like the Vikings are going after Mike Zimmer. I think he deserves a chance but how much different will he be than the guy they just fired ?

  108. chethejet says:

    If AJ doesn’t come back, who does Locke stand next to the while game? Man will he be a puppy that is sad and looking lost? Hey Dejan, I assume the Trib has a policy on your staff writers getting into twitter wars with other bloggers. Stick to the Steelers Scottie.

    DK: Holy Posts from 2010!

  109. Milo Hamilton says:

    I have no idea what the Browns are doing (and apparently neither do they) but whatever they do I’m quite certain hilarity will ensue.

  110. Wild Bill says:

    New PSU coach Franklin asks fans via Facebook who should PSU schedule in two 2015 holes on the schedule. Even though a four year series begins the next year, the clear leader in votes so far is Pitt.

  111. theplanisworking says:

    Cleveland might be better served by naming rotating position coaches. We have seen if one man is in charge there, it doesn’t work.

    Or, they could hire Craig T. Nelson. Couldn’t hurt…..

  112. Jandy says:


  113. Milo Hamilton says:

    He works for ESPN now.

  114. 21sthebest says:

    Sometimes I think a clubhouse needs a guy like AJ. I don’t think all 25 need to hold hands and sing Kum Ba Yah.

    But are we sure AJ was yelling at Barmes or was he yelling at where he was positioned which may have come from the dugout. I’ve never been clear about that.

  115. Jandy says:

    take off the ?

  116. NMR says:

    Emphatically agreed. Guys like AJ keep clubhouses from getting complacent.

    And I’m 100% positive AJ is on record as saying he wasn’t yelling at Barmes, but about the positioning.

  117. Pitt is 0-5 versus Georgia Tech over the years, so everyone knows what the Panthers are up against tonight, especially without Durand.

  118. Jim S. says:

    Love that Toyota commercial with CTN. That guy playing the “Coach” on the spot is very funny.

  119. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, what was the point in running of the current coach in such a hurry if they did not have any sort of game plan after that? I thought that was a signal that they had a guy in mind and did not want to get beaten to the punch. Turns out they were just being the Browns.

  120. NMR says:

    Sometimes the obvious answer is the correct one.

    If nobody can figure out why teams with money haven’t signed AJ, maybe, just maybe, it is because he means what he says.

  121. Jim S. says:

    The Lions have their top 3 guys (Stafford, Suh, Megatron) locked up to enormous contracts, right? I think there may be $60 million or so in cap space for just those 3. That should go well down the road.

  122. Arriba Wilver says:

    Maybe they should ask the Paternos.

    Too soon?

  123. Pitt is 0-5 versus Georgia Tech over the years, and so, we can only hope the Panthers can reverse that tonight without Durand.

  124. 21sthebest says:

    That’s what I believe.

  125. Jim S. says:

    I thought he was showing his frustration at Barmes’ positioning by the coaching staff.

  126. NMR says:

    Psh, they stopped caring about Penn State football the second Joe was fired.

  127. Wild Bill says:

    Quite a bit too soon, AW.

  128. NMR says:

    That is exactly what he did.

    People made it out to be that he was mad at Barmes, which is what AJ denied. Because he wasn’t.

  129. Jim S. says:

    Could very well be. It is not as though he has been running all around the country looking for better deals from teams other than the Pirates and Baltimore. So, maybe this perceived lack of interest in him is because his agent had strict instructions from him that he had no interest in all the other teams and did not want to drum up interest simply to drive up his offer from Pgh/Balt.

    I said in the middle of last year that I thought the O’s stood a better chance of signing AJ for this year than the Bucs because he was saying at the time that family considerations were extremely important, and I knew he lived in Maryland. He seemed sincere to me at the time.

    But, we’ll know when we know.

  130. chethejet says:

    Yes, but the question is for sports writers and not getting into discussions outside their general area of the job description. He didn’t do himself any favors for sure. But I can see why Dejan doesn’t have an emotional investment that supersedes his job.

  131. JHadar says:

    Radio –

    You are obviously missed.

    Iowa 84 – Ohio State 74

    My best to you and yours.

  132. Jim S. says:

    Just playing devil’s advocate here. I like AJ, but outspoken guys are not always the best thing. Isn’t it possible for his attitude to be a bad thing after awhile?

    I agree that he wasn’t angry with Barmes. But, if so, that was just another example of not accepting the manager’s decisions. Clint and the coaching staff position the players. AJ and the pitchers throw the pitches.

  133. Jim S. says:

    I thought he denied all of it – that he showed any frustration or anger at all.

  134. Thundercrack says:

    I have changed my opinion of the AJ Burnett situation. I still want him signed and pitching for the Pirates in 2014.

    But I am starting to think something did happen at the end of the season. Something that really damaged the relationship – so much so that the Pirates may think they are better off without him. Or at least that he is not worth the headaches. Maybe it isn’t worth having around and in the clubhouse.

    I think they put up with AJ’s act. But when he blew up for not getting the start in the last playoff game, he said and/or did something that pushed it over the edge.

    Just my opinion.

    DK: TC thinks management is right. I’ll alert the editors.

  135. Jim S. says:

    Good stat, James.

  136. Jim S. says:

    I don’t know. All they have, all they are, is PSU football. The boys don’t want to be forgotten.

  137. bpn8pitt says:

    Maybe Army or FCS Presby. They already play UMass this year.

  138. Do travel plans include Brazil for the World Cup, in June and July?

    DK: I’d love to cover a World Cup someday, Alex. Last big check mark left. But no, not this time.

  139. Jandy says:

    hey hey it’s Alexandre :)

  140. bpn8pitt says:

    I was surprised they didnt tender him. I realize the 14 million or so may have been high, but had he gone anywhere else, boom, 1st Rd pick.

    Thats another reason im surprised he hasnt signed, unlike some of the starting pitching left, he wont cost a pick.

    Maybe all the chips will fall once Tanaka signs…Wouldnt touch Tanaka myself, I think Darvish will start falling back to earth soon.

  141. JohninOshkosh says:

    I wonder what the Sochi Best Western is like ?

  142. 21sthebest says:

    I think it may depend on how outspoken he is and if he knows his limits. But being a very good performer on a good team gives him a lot of latitude, IMO.

  143. NMR says:

    Don’t confuse Joe Paterno with Penn State Football, as it currently stands. If they actually cared about Penn State Football, they would’ve dropped the distractions two years ago.

    The Paterno’s care about the legacy of their husband, father, grandfather – Joe. I don’t fault them for this, since I don’t know anybody who wouldn’t do the same exact thing. But it is doing no good for the University what-so-ever.

  144. NMR says:

    This is all personal preference, of course, but that line of thinking is just too “Little League” for me.

    These guys are all adults. They can think for themselves. I always, always value dissenting personalities and opinions within a team.

  145. Jandy says:

    What about the Sochi Starbucks? ;)

  146. Hey, Jandy, how’s it going?

  147. Jim S. says:

    Interesting blog post from Alan Robinson regarding Cameron Heyward and whether the Steelers should exercise their right to a 5th year extension on his rookie contract for 2015. If they did that, he would be paid somewhere around $8.5M. They have until May 3 to decide.

    Or, do they try to sign him to an extension? He certainly seemed to solidify himself as a strong, young 3-4 DE this year, so he won’t come cheap. But, to me, he is exactly the type of player this team needs going forward. Losing Keenan Lewis to the Saints last off-season was a big setback, IMO.

    This salary cap thing for them is an albatross. And, it is not just about mistake extensions for guys like Woodley. It is all the restructuring for guys like Ben, Taylor, etc. that eats up future space. Ben’s cap figure gets up close to $20 million soon, even though his salary is very reasonable, even cheap, for an elite QB.

  148. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t think so, Jim. He said he was frustrated with the positioning.

  149. Jim S. says:

    I heard the wi-fi is unreliable, Osh.

  150. Jandy says:

    It goes, Alexandre, it goes. At least we have temps about freezing these days lol.
    Hope it’s not too hot for you these days!

  151. Pretty soon, the new movie: Draft Day starring Kevin Costner as the Cleveland Browns General Manager and Denis Leary as the Browns’ surly head coach will be coming to a theater near you, and it is now rated PG 13.

  152. Jim S. says:


  153. Jim S. says:

    Dissenting views might be ok to a point. But, if the manager feels a guy is undermining him or that he is above listening to the manager – that guy has to go.

    I’m not saying AJ was like that. I’m only saying that the manager’s authority can only be questioned up to a point.

  154. Wild Bill says:

    Well, Bpn, let’s see. Both Pitt and PSU play Akron. PSU plays U. Mass, and Pitt plays Florida International and Delaware.

    Everybody plays non conference softies when they can.

  155. JohninOshkosh says:

    Ha! I was thinking about that the other day when Dejan tweeted that photo of his “office” at the State College Starbucks.

    What happens if the Starbucks wi-fi goes on the fritz ? Our information pipeline is shut off !

  156. Barely bearable. Looking forward to winter. Maybe not a -10F winter (not even possible around here), but 40-50, which is the low point, but only for a couple days each year.

  157. Jim S. says:

    There will be a work around. He’s like Jack Bauer in that situation.

  158. Jim S. says:

    Dennis Quaid as the veteran QB, of course.

  159. Jandy says:

    Good to see you, pop in more often :)

  160. bpn8pitt says:

    I understand the Woodley signing in hindsight to be a mistake. But a few years ago, not too many people argued with these re-signings and restructurings. Even when they gave 150 million to Woodley, Timmons and Harrison, most people, journalists in the city included said that was a great idea. That the 3-4 defense ran on LBs. In hindsight, maybe not so much.

    Teams get expensive. The Seahawks and 49ers are going to find this out real quick.

  161. Jim S. says:

    Thinking out loud … $61 million for 3 years is a nice payoff for most people. But, the downside is having to wait a year to start getting that $61 million.

    How to make ends meet until then? What to do? What to do?

  162. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m sure the Ruskies will have it all set up for people. Unless you’re gay, of course.

    And they’ll want to listen in, but that’s really no different than the NSA, apparently.

  163. Jandy says:

    isn’t that quite a problem to have!

  164. JohninOshkosh says:

    He’s still owed guaranteed millions from the Rangers as well, I believe.

    I hope his lawyers enjoy their new condos in the Keys.

  165. Jim S. says:

    Seems to me that one of the few, if not the only NFL team that seems to have mastered the cap in this regard is New England. They take more of a “money ball” approach than anyone else in the NFL. We can say what we want about some of their tactics, and about the special treatment they seem to get from the league and the media. I know I do it all the time. But, the fact is, they have managed the cap long term better than anyone. And, they are always collecting extra draft picks.

    There is always a price to pay for spending tomorrow’s money today. I was never comfortable with the Steelers doing all these extensions. They were about the last team to adopt that philosophy, and they have been “all in” the last several years. Now, that the inevitable is here, it isn’t so great.

  166. NMR says:

    That is assuming the manager knows better than the player, Jim.

    Easy assumption in Little League, not so much in the show.

  167. Jim S. says:

    I’d like to think he would wise up and just go away. But, his out of control ego won’t allow for that.

  168. Jim S. says:

    Sorry, I meant “doing all these restructures.”

  169. Jandy says:

    Yeah, like my Dad liked to say, “Don’t go away mad, just go away.”

  170. bpn8pitt says:


    Although, I think that defense is finally going to get exposed Sunday. The question is can Denver’s defense stop Brady, Blount ect?

  171. Jim S. says:

    An oldie but a goodie from AJ:

  172. casper in a-town says:

    Looks like the Ohio State Buckeyes hired Larry Johnson, Sr., as defensive line coach.

  173. 21sthebest says:

    Heh. My Mom always said that too.

  174. Jandy says:


  175. Jandy says:

    21, they has such good one-liners back then. My Mom said “He/She thinks she drinks milk and sh*ts ice cream”
    I always get a rise when I repeat that one.

  176. Jim S. says:

    From (part of – Top 10 SS prospects:

    1. Bogaerts, BoSox
    2. Baez, Cubs – 75 XBH in ’13
    3. Correa, Astros
    4. Lindor, Indians
    5. Russell, A’s
    6. Seager, Dodgers
    7. Mondesi, Jr. Royals – Son of Raul
    8. Alen Hanson, Pirates
    9. Sardinas, Rangers – Yes, even after graduating Profar and Andrus!
    10. Owings, DBacks

    As you might have guessed, the book on Hanson is advanced bat but glove needs work. Maybe more suited to 2b long term.

  177. Jim S. says:

    Wait … I used to say that!

  178. Jandy says:

    ha! we’re getting older, Jim!

  179. Jim S. says:

    I sure hope so. I’m not really a fan of either Brady or Manning. That’s mostly because they have both inflicted some serious pain on the Steelers – although Brady certainly moreso than Peyton. I kind of like Brady being stuck on 3 SB wins in perpetuity.

    Those 2 have to each be comfortably among the Top 5 All-Time QBs in my book.

  180. bpn8pitt says:

    I thought Mike Wallace would have been perfect for Brady.

  181. They certainly need him, Casper. Woody Hayes probably turned in his grave during those last 3 games.

  182. What’s the over/under on that game?

  183. Jim S. says:

    That’s a good point about Wallace. I don’t know if the Pats were even interested. He seemed more interested in taking his talents to South Beach. I wonder if he wants to rethink that decision now.

  184. NMR says:

    Kind of amazing to see all the young shortstop talent in baseball right now. Hak-Ju Lee and JP Crawford probably deserve to make that lists just as much as the last thee or so guys. Lists, and all.

    Gotta love seeing the Cardinals being the only NL Central team without any sniff of a major league shortstop in the pipeline. :)

  185. casper in a-town says:

    Agree 100% — those were some painful games to watch. I found it quite interesting that he signed so fast with PSU’s “rival.”

  186. bpn8pitt says:

    Denver by 4.5 last I saw

  187. bpn8pitt says:

    I did not see the over/under sorry.

  188. bpn8pitt says:

    Moving forward you have to wonder if Gronkowski can play a full schedule, ever. Although I know they have some young receivers, none of them looked to be to impressive. I traded for Thompkins in my Dynasty League and he proceeded to get hurt and do nothing.

    Daq will get mad, but Belichek did a nice job this year. I thought they were done when Mayo and Wilfork were out.

  189. Jim S. says:

    Surely just an oversight, I’m sure.

    But, I guess that is why the Cardinals addressed the position with their F/A signing of Peralta.

    The Bucs really need to find out this year if Hanson can stick at SS, I think.

  190. Jim S. says:

    I wonder just how good the Pats really would be if not for Brady. He’s been a nice security blanket for over a decade now, and he shows no signs of aging that I can see.

  191. Jim S. says:

    Fair point.

  192. bpn8pitt says:

    Franklin played absolutely no one in his three years at Vandy. Went 11-13 in the SEC. Beating up on the likes of Kentucky and Ole Miss. The only ranked team he beat was #15 Georgia on a horrible call that determined the game.


    When was the last truly good team Penn State beat, even with O’brien/Paterno? You probably cant do it with googling. Reason being they havent beaten any one good a long while.

  193. Arriba Wilver says:

    I wonder if they have a 1B, though. ;-)

  194. Jandy says:

    THAT’S the $64,000 question!

  195. Wild Bill addressed some of that above, which you probably read.

  196. bpn8pitt says:

    I think thats what has irked me about the Franklin hire more than anything. Especially from some bright people I know who went to PSU.

    He won in the SEC. False. 11-13 record

    Did not play a ranked team in nonconference. In fact most of those teams were the worst football teams in the FBS, not to include FCS Presby.

    Are you Penn Staters sure you didnt just get a coach who fattened up his record on the dredges of the SEC and a soft non-conference?

    He’ll probably slug through a few 6-8 win seasons before moving on to a bigger school or most likely the NFL and people will give him credit. Where to me absolutely none is due.

    But I felt the same way about O’brien. All the guy did was his job.

    But thats the world we live in now. Here’s your participation award.

  197. NMR says:

    Wait, are you the same bpn who was asking how PSU could possibly get a good coach like Franklin?


  198. Jim S. says:

    And, what’s with Bieber? Little punk. Throwing eggs at his neighbor’s house, which leads to a raid of his house where cocaine is found. One of his buddies brought it, apparently.

  199. Jim S. says:

    Sid’s Olympics clincher.

  200. Arriba Wilver says:

    “He’ll probably slug through a few 6-8 win seasons before moving on to a bigger school or most likely the NFL and people will give him credit. Where to me absolutely none is due.”

    If you want me to, I’ll save this for you to look at later.

    He took a program that hadn’t won in decades and won. I don’t care if he was playing Mt. Lebanon High School. Did he change the culture merely by changing the schedule? Enquiring minds want to know.

  201. bpn8pitt says:

    NMR, I always thought when Sandusky happened and then Paterno died, it was going to take 10 years to get Penn State back to a championship level (barring bringing in an Urban Meyer or Nick Saban). Its year 3. Franklin’s not the guy. I hope for PSU’s sake its the NFL in 2-3 years. Not another school, where he takes a bunch of verbals again.

  202. theplanisworking says:

    Jim, I think everyone is forgetting the childish display AJ had when Hurdle pulled him from a game in Washington, where he waved the bullpen to sit down, and brushed right past Hurdle in the dugout.

    Hurdle correctly got in his face, and told him to stop the punk behavior. Not exactly what one is looking for from a “clubhouse leader”.

  203. bpn8pitt says:

    Save it Wilver.

    Also, remember Franklin said he spent time ” on the Hill.”

    That will probably Penn State’s “high octane” reference down the road.

    Guys a football coach. Not a saint.

  204. theplanisworking says:

    Wait a minute Bill……..

    I said this about Pitt’s non-conference basketball schedule, and I was told I was wrong. Baketball non-conference, and football non-conference are very, very similar.

    I am not picking on you……. I am just glad someone else agrees that big schools play soft opponents when they can. Actually, quite refreshing…….

  205. theplanisworking says:

    If you see someone shoveling through the snow, it will be DK trying to set up a land line……

  206. theplanisworking says:


    HUGE game for NC tonight. :)

  207. bpn8pitt says:

    I am just surprised more Penn State people are not a little leary of the hire…And Im just talking about the football stuff.

    It is going to be interesting how Franklin’s personality will go over not just with recruit, Pitt and the Big Ten. But up there in Happy Valley too. Maybe thats one reason Golden turned them down; the “traditionalists” up there.

    You guys at least have to admit, the Penn State way is gonna change a little. What happens if Franklin wants to change the uni’s like at Vandy?

    Maybe Munchak wasnt the sexy hire, maybe not even a better hire. But he would have appeased some people up there, that I think Franklin may rub the wrong way. Not to mention, there will be a new AD and President too.

    These are all relevant.

    Maybe I just think you guys are better and maybe Penn State is better than. “oh well, he won at Vandy.”

  208. Sweet Jimmie,

    I have YET to meet the wife who tells her husband, “You’ve already made enough money.”

    I think your statement is a REAL stretch!! We’re not talking $1.25 an hour here!

  209. National Mart of Records,

    Then why has he not announced his retirement?

    I just read on today’s MLB Rumors page that Baltimore is still considering and hoping.
    He has not told them or anybody, “Go Away!”

  210. Arriba Wilver says:

    Saved, Bpn.

    Who’s calling him a saint?

    I’m actually a UVA/Pitt guy. I got no skin in this game. Just seems like you are waaayyyy negative on the guy.

    And are you seriously suggesting they should have hired somebody to “appease” people who don’t have the faintest idea what football coach would be best for Penn State?

  211. Brandie says:

    Bieber had a Look At Me Moment. So sick of looking at him.

  212. Why? Same teams? Same personnel? Same venue? Same coaches? Same era?

    0 – 5 has NOTHING to do with this Pitt team or this Georgia Tech team.

    Better to look at Pitt’s record against Dayton, team previously coached by Ga Tech’s coach.

  213. Ghost says:

    “Maybe the Steeler defense needs some new players AND new ideas.”

    YES, precisely. Although, in my haste to have Dick LeBeau (and his defense) retired, I did overlook the distinct possibility that perhaps Butler would just be more of the same thing. So you have a good point.

  214. Arriba Wilver says:

    $1.25? That’s what I got paid in my first job in 8th grade, Also got room and board, though, since it was my uncle in Chicago.

  215. Wild Bill says:

    Did I get after you about that, Hippo? If I did, I don’t recall it.

  216. NMR says:


    I’ve known there is a football coach named James Franklin for about a week. I promise you know more about him than I do.

    But from what I’ve seen, I’m not sure his personality is really that much different than O’Brien (who already changed the uni’s, btw), at least in the “traditionalist” manner you seem to be insinuating.

    What I do know is that as an alum myself, the “Penn State guy” angle is way, wayyyy overplayed. Trust me. People have literally been saying for decades that it would be difficult for anyone to follow Paterno. Nothing new there at all. Didn’t matter who took over (PSU ties or not), they were still going to be judged and compared to Joe.

  217. theplanisworking says:

    Bill, I said I wasn’t picking on you. You never got on me for anything, that’s why I wrote that !

    I was just using your post as a reference, nothing more. Smile Billy, It’s Tuesday! :)

  218. Wild Bill says:

    I think I’m beginning to understand where you are coming from, bpn. Sometimes you sound hostile and I don’t quite know why.

    I was nervous, but hopeful, about O’Brien, Didn’t know him from Adam. Still think what he did at PSU was miraculous. You cite the lack of big wins, but the last win this year took Wisconsin out of a BCS bowl game – and they were highly favored. Take any other program, and make them play with 24 less scholarship players than their opponents, and it’s incredibly tough. He moved on; I can live with it.

    Now comes Franklin. Don’t know him from Adam. I’m once again, nervous but hopeful. He may indeed ruffle feathers in State College, but I’m ok with that, too. You seem to think he’s not a good enough coach to win there. You might be right; time will tell. All I said the other day was that I thought he did well in his press conference and seems like a real people person. I’m an optimist by nature.

    I have no hostility toward you or your opinions. Can that go both ways?

  219. Wild Bill says:

    Been a long Tuesday, man. Could use an ipa right about now.

  220. 21sthebest says:

    Yeah it does DK. The point I’m making is that baseball gets discussed differently than the other sports. I’m not saying for better or worse, I’m saying baseball has a longer history and baseball has more statistics. And the statistics interest a lot of people and I think steroids can have a direct impact on the statistics in baseball unlike any other sport.

    So when there’s a baseball suspension because of steroids, it gets talked about a decent bit when it doesn’t seem to in football, for example. And in my opinion, that has nothing to do with failed leadership in baseball to minimize the publicity of steroid suspensions.

  221. Arriba Wilver says:

    Fedko in the linked video praised Bud for taking a serious stance.

    It will be interesting to see if the brain disease recently identified and connected to concussions also has some kind of causative connection to PED’s.

  222. Thundercrack says:

    Wow, you made it almost 14 whole days of the new year without posting a response that I feel is totally uncalled for and out of line.

    1) I didn’t say that I thought management was right. I didn’t say anyone was right. I just said that I changed my opinion of the situation and the relationship. (at first I thought it was just about money – that the stuff that happened during the playoffs was just blown out of proportion)

    2) Part of what swayed my opinion is what I heard Ron Cook say today on his radio show. Is he a credible enough journalist for you? Is he around the players and coaches enough – so that he may also know what he is talking about? Or should I just go by what you report, and film with your hand-held camera? Should I start streaming the Fedko-Steigerwald show?

    3) And I actually said that I want AJ back in 2014.

    4) Do you have any new information regarding AJ’s relationship with Hurdle and management that you would like to share?

  223. bpn8pitt says:

    I think I sound negative, because as far as I can tell I am the only person from PA who seems to be critical of the hire.

    Since Saturday, all I have heard is “this is a homerun hire” and he’s a “relentless recruiter”, a lot this from Dejan’s colleagues and the national college football media. If Franklin came to Penn State with SEC division title, a BCS bowl win or some other title from his past, id probably be a little more okay with it. Personally I think his resume is a little lean for Penn State, especially compared to Munchak or Golden…Look how far down Tennessee Volunteer football has fallen. Think Franklin benefitted a little from that? The one top 25 recruiting class he had was the past season. And it only contained 1 recruit who was a no doubt 4 star from all the major recruiting services. Before that 2011-12 contained an absolute ton of 3 star recruits, which can go either way. Now is that good for Vandy? Sure. But will that be acceptable for Penn State? Sure the Lions are going to get there share of decent recruits…But I think Franklin is delusional if he can dominate PA in recruiting. Heck, recently SEC teams were coming up and trying to take some of the blue chip recruits. Not to mention Pitt, WVU, Ohio State, Michigan State, Rutgers and so forth.

    I do think Penn State is capable of getting back to competing for a Big Ten title and getting in the playoff. But I think its further away then some think.

    By the way, Franklin did have Zac Stacy for two years. But he did not recruit him.

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