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Morning Java: In search of a hero?

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

SOCHI, Russia — Доброе утро, Lunatiks …

>> The Wednesday column is about Ray Shero, Dan Bylsma, their relationship and how the together with the rest of Team USA’s management they’ve carved an encouraging identity for the Americans here.

This was not what I’d planned to write about for the day. But good material like this will trump the best of plans.

Bode Miller and now Shaun White have bombed out, and some others bowed out to injury. Can the U.S. find a hero?

The Sochi Hockey Notebook looks at Brooks Orpik moving up, Evgeni Malkin talking, line combos and more.

Here are all five videos for Channel 11 News so far, including the latest about palm trees vs. snow …

I’m also doing weekday reports for TribLIVE Radio, and the Tuesday podcast was comprised of questions I had for Sidney Crosby, Chris Kunitz and Jeff Carter of Team Canada.

Here’s the Trib’s Olympics page.

Here’s the official Sochi 2014 page.

Here’s the official U.S. Olympic team page.

Here’s the official NHL Olympics page.

And here’s NBC’s Olympics page with all the highlights.

>> What, you didn’t believe me about the palm trees and snow?

Shot that a couple days ago. Crazy, huh?

That long thing on the left is the speedskating oval, by the way. That’s where I’ll spend most of today.

>> Collecting pins has traditionally been a favorite pastime at any Olympics – I’m no exception — but it isn’t an option here.

Oh, they exist. One can find them online, including at the Sochi Games’ official site. But there are none at Olympic Park, not even the IKEA-sized main merchandise store. The usual independent merchants are trading pins, but even they have nothing from Sochi.

It’s reached the point where Sochi spokeswoman Alexandra Kosterina was asked about it during one of the daily briefings. She expressed surprise but had no answer.

I’m pinning my hopes on an answer soon.

>> Back home, there’s another chance for Pitt to knock off No. 1 Syracuse, this time at the Pete. Kevin Gorman reports.

>> Pitt is eyeing a former USC quarterback, by Jerry DiPaola.

>> Joey Porter’s back? For real?

Oh, a great chance to resurrect this …

But seriously, Porter is now a defensive assistant, by Mark Kaboly. I dare say from seeing that video again, the current Steelers could use a bit of what some of the gentlemen pictured brought to the table.

>> There will, of course, be a Pitt-Cuse game thread up later.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    That Steelers/Joey Porter video is hysterical….lol….Hysterical AND an attitude that is sorely needed by the current Steelers.
    We’ve seen some nice coaching moves so far this off season.
    Let’s hope they back it up with some personnel moves that make a real difference…..

  2. Bizrow says:

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    • 2/12/2014 3:04 AM

    Did your Starbucks connection guy come thru Dejan? Couldn’t tell by the tweets

  3. Drew71 says:

    “They shot me in Denver”

    Now THAT’S a line.

  4. Drew71 says:

    So when do pitchers and catchers report?

    I haven’t heard.

  5. Thundercrack says:

    I hope AJ doesn’t see that video and decide to sign with the Steelers.

  6. Jandy says:

    I know you don’t like to listen to your wife, Drew Dahling, but you MUST take the earplugs out of your ears to hear when pitchers and catchers report :*

  7. Jandy says:


  8. Jandy says:

    Up tp 448! WOOP WOOP!!!!

  9. JAL says:

    JAL’s Waiting on a Friend Like You Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 BFFL’s 2014 Pirates Stats Spreadsheet

    4 Pirates Prospects Spring Training Tracker

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    irst Pitch: What If Teams Weren’t Restricted From Spending on Certain Players?

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Spring Training Preview: The Outfield

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Spring Training Preview: The Infield

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Draft Preview: College Hitters

    The Cost of a Draft Pick is Probably Greater Than You Think

    Pittsburgh Pirates 2014 Draft Preview: College Pitchers

    6 Rumbunter

    Why Jordy Mercer is the Pittsburgh Pirates Shortstop of the future

    Starling Marte, The Pittsburgh Pirates Jekyll & Hyde Effect

    A.J. Burnett Watch: The Final Hours

    7 Bucs Dugout

    Bucs Dugout Podcast: Preparing for spring training

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    Pirates’ volatile rotation needs A.J. Burnett

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    Here’s How The Yankees And Angels Are Disrupting Baseball’s Secondary Ticket Market

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    Still Not Sold on Starling

    11 City of Champions

    Pittsburgh Pirates Pitcher Wandy Rodriguez Ready For Spring Training

  10. JAL says:

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    Pete Rose: Using PEDs is worse than betting on baseball

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    15 Baseball Prospectus

    Ten Prospects Who Could Make Cases for Call-Ups This Spring

    16 Fangraphs

    2014 Top 100 Prospects

    A Suggestion to Improve the Qualifying Offer System

    17 Providence Journal

    Free agents left to swing in the breeze

    18 St. Louis Post Gazette

    Rosenthal is warming to Cards’ closer role

    19 USA Today

    Baseball’s 100 names you need to know: Nos. 26-50

    20 Philly Com

    Roy Oswalt set to retire from baseball

  11. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Free Agency 2014: Making the case for Sanders

    Joey Porter an excellent emotional counterpart to an otherwise controlled defensive coaching staff

    22 Steelers Depot

    Joey Porter Will Look To Put A Chip On The Shoulder Of Jarvis Jones


    23 Bloomberg Stats Insight

    Football Dynamics: Inter, Chelsea & Monaco vs. PSG

    24 BBC Football

    West Brom substitute Victor Anichebe scored a late equaliser to deny leaders Chelsea a vital win at The Hawthorns.


    25 Pensburgh

    The NHL World Cup of Hockey is Coming for Your Olympics (Tuesday Slew)

    Song: First Snow in Brooklyn Jethro Tull

    25 Pensburgh

    Pens Points Wednesday: A Very Penguin Christmas

  12. Brandie says:

    Canada vs USA Women’s Hockey…Gettin’ bi$”hy up in here.

  13. Wild Bill says:

    Now that DK has let us see how close Dan and Ray truly are, Plan will want to FIRE SHERO!

  14. Wild Bill says:

    Girl Fight!!!

  15. Jandy says:

    Are they on now, Brandecita?

  16. Brandie says:

    Stop pullin’ my hair!

  17. Wild Bill says:

    Candles are being lighted all across the ‘burgh for Pitt’s game tonight. Might be their best weapon against the Orange.

  18. “He also won’t be timid about meeting with his coaches, even challenging them.”

    Lets hope that means keeping the disco stretch to a minimum and minding the neutral zone…for this tourney and the one in a few months.

  19. Brandie says:

    Is The Disco Stretch some kind of yoga move?

  20. Jandy says:

    Goooooo USA! RAH!

  21. Ask jandy. She’s a good verbal contortionist…


    Helping the Crosby assimilation was much harder for Olczyk. A lot of the Penguins — Lemieux aside — didn’t exactly welcome the kid with open arms. Jealousy was a big part of it. The Crosby treatment was so bad that Olczyk felt the need to call out a veteran, both in the hallway and in his office, after a game Nov. 27, 2005, in Tampa Bay.

    “It was a one-sided conversation,” Olczyk said. “I knew when that player walked out of the office and went back to the other veterans that my time as coach would be short.”

    The Penguins lost that night to Tampa Bay, then lost six of their next seven games. Olczyk was fired Dec. 15. The team was 8-17-6.

    “I would do the exact same thing again,” Olczyk said. “I had to make sure that kid was protected. I knew it was the right thing for the future of the organization.”

    Exactly what right did that squad have to be jealous of crosby? They all should’ve felt fortunate to not be working a drive thru window at taco bell. Good for edzo…tearing into recchi back then couldn’t have been easy.

  23. Hmm…brandie you have a low bar for your level of kink :)

  24. Wild Bill says:

    Watching the hockey girl fight. The ice looks huge. Speed teams will have so much more room. Wish we could bring this ice to the NHL.

  25. My wedding day, the day each of my children were born, graduation day from Duke, TODAY . . . . AS PITCHERS & CATCHERS REPORT TO SPRING TRAINING.

    Off to the car right now———next stop Anna Maria Island!

    Someone feed my cat!

  26. Jandy says:

    Don’t be hatin’ on me, Monster Mash….you’re just jealous :P

  27. Wild Bill says:

    Enjoy man. I, however, need a lot more snow and cold and misery. At least I keep,telling myself that.

  28. Jandy says:


  29. Naje says:

    It was Camp Pittsburgh back then. Awful leaders + awful talent usually translate into awful, petulant, weak-willed team that has no room for the best 18 year old on the planet.

  30. Naje says:

    Seems like these refs are missing a lot of penalties in this US-Canada game. Seven Canadiens on the ice… a few prominent hits. Odd.

  31. Brandie says:

    If Mash is jealous, then it’s time for a one way conversation with Eddie Olczyk.

  32. Wild Bill says:

    Jealousy is an ugly thing. Lots of young superstars have had to deal with it in every sport. Surprising, though, that Edzo hasn’t had more of a chance to coach over the years.

  33. Dom says:

    Brandon Weeden wants to leave the Browns.

    Mostly, fifty of his teammates wants to leave the team as well.

  34. Dom says:

    I meant to say most likely 50 of his teammates as well,.

  35. Jandy says:

    Have a great time, Groat!

  36. A double thwap. Mercy.

  37. Bring your cat here. I’ll feed it to the coyotes. That is what you meant isn’t it?

    Have a great trip.

  38. Brandie says:


  39. Jandy says:

    WOOP Woop!

  40. JohninOshkosh says:

    1-0. USA

    Get pucks to net and good things happen. Simple.

    PP goal.

  41. Brandie says:

    Enjoy Groat Meal!

  42. BillyBaduka says:

    The larger ice surface is the best cure to open up the ice for skating, passing and deal the clutching and grabbing issues. Sadly since it involves removal of a few A level seat rows, it’s not even discussed as a solution.

  43. Wild Bill says:

    Impressed by everything about this game. Speed and skill.

  44. Brandie says:

    Get the message, Bylsma?

  45. Damon says:

    DK, just wanted to chime in here and say every article you’ve written from over there has been A1, prime, triple word score, plus the foul. Great reading every day….

  46. Wild Bill says:

    John, what’s going on with the weather in your area?

  47. JohninOshkosh says:

    It’s OK, Bill. A little snow expected and some rising temps, finally.

    Four Wisconsin natives on the ladies’ USA hockey team.

  48. Stuart says:

    Ah yes, the two most magical words in the midst of the frigid winter: “PITCHERS & CATCHERS”!

    Can Spring be far behind?


  49. Wild Bill says:


  50. Jim S. says:

    I think he may be happy right now announcing and living in Chicago. Home with the family everyday.

  51. Jim S. says:

    Have fun, Groat!

  52. Jim S. says:

    Shouldn’t he be retiring soon, anyway? I know he has only played a few years, but I think he’s 30+.

  53. Sarah says:

    And sounds like DB is going with Quick over Miller. At least for the first game.

  54. Jim S. says:

    Keep it down, please! Some of us are working! :-)

  55. Milo Hamilton says:

    Mike Milbury is just about the last thing I need to see at 9 o’clock in the morning.

  56. Jim S. says:

    Who is the image on your gravatar, Stuart? Is that a NY Giants hat? Cool.

  57. Jim S. says:

    Does he treat women as well as he treats 14 year old boys?

  58. pattonbb says:

    Enjoy Groat! Always look forward to your posts from down there.

    As the “Great Winter Apocalypse Storm of the Century” bears down on me, I find comfort and warmth knowing that today, pitchers and catchers finally report.

    All is right in the world again.

  59. Jim S. says:

    To answer DK’s rhetorical question at the top – Can the US find a hero – I nominate Erin Hamlin from last night. First US Luge medal ever. She had some clutch runs.

  60. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hopefully forever.

  61. Brandie says:

    1-1…IT’S ON NOW’

  62. Stuart says:

    Jim, No, I found a picture of my Great Uncle who played for the Cincinnati Reds, the Philadelphia Athletics, and the Yankees, finishing his MLB career with the Yanks about 5 years before Babe Ruth joined the team.

    I’m told I look like him just like I looked like my previous avatar
    PS, he was an outfielder/first baseman.


  63. Today is the opening of spring training. Let’s hope that the Pirates, who’ve lately been boasting about how great their minor league system is, will do better than than they’re currently projected to this season.

  64. Brandie says:

    Now 2-1 Canada with controversy!

  65. Jandy says:

    Yup, I posted that ^^ there an hour ago.


  66. Naje says:

    The Pirates aren’t boasting about their minor league system, James. Baseball America and other media outlets are, though.

  67. Jandy says:

    Anyway, I like Miller. His save % is .928….he can’t help it he has almost no help in front of him.

  68. Thundercrack says:


  69. Milo Hamilton says:

    To say the officiating has been questionable so far would be an understatement. But Canada has had the better of the play in the 3rd period.

  70. Jandy says:

    C’mon USA!!!!

  71. Naje says:

    Apparently not being able to count to five (or six, or seven) is a prerequisite for being a women’s hockey referee at the Olympics.

  72. chethejet1 says:

    If there is on franchise the Pens want to model themselves after, Nashville is not my first choice. Stability and a great working relationship is so over rated in professional sports. Think Scotty Bowman gave a rats a** about who the GM was? My fear is looking like it is Shero and Bylsma from here to kingdom come. And I don’t mean Rodger Kingdom.

  73. Milo Hamilton says:

    Awaiting first reports of visa problems.

  74. Milo Hamilton says:

    The seven was my favorite. And hearing the whistle blow before the puck crosses the line is apparently optional.

  75. Jandy says:

    for whom, Milo?

  76. Hard to argue with logic like that… :)

  77. Naje says:

    3 stars for that one Milo.

  78. Naje says:

    For any and all, Jandy… but mostly players from the Dominican Republic. Always happens. Every year. Like clockwork.

  79. Jandy says:

    Especially when logic is applied to prior logic ;)

  80. Brandie says:

    Cause they don’t take American Express.

    Gettin’ lame in my old age.

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    There’s always one. :)

  82. Jandy says:

    Ahh I guess I was being naïve, then…thanks Naje :)

  83. Jandy says:


    LOL Sistah!

  84. Brandie says:

    I also heard Lake Erie wants to leave Cleveland.

  85. JohninOshkosh says:

    Bars around here organizing get togethers for Saturday morning USA/Russia men’s hockey game.

    Big event in these parts. Beer and Cheerios, everyone!

  86. Jandy says:

    That’s it! No housework will get done in my house Saturday morning!!
    I better warn hubby!

  87. Naje says:

    US women have, at times, looked like the Pens in the playoffs: shoot at defensmen repeatedly rather than getting shots on goal. Like the grit late in the game though… 3-2 with 1:05 to go.

  88. See…verbal contortionism at its best.

  89. Jandy says:

    Absolutely not, just giving as good as I get, sweetie :)

  90. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’ve seen several blatant offices go as non calls in the previous games in the women’s tournament.

    Easiest call in sports, usually.

    I hope NHL refs do the big men’s games. And not the KHL.

  91. JohninOshkosh says:

    Offsides. Yikes, autocorrect.

  92. Naje says:

    Ok, let’s see… that’s one, two, three, four, five… yes, SIX! Tweet tweet… finally!

  93. You didn’t get anything so why you giving? Is it xmas again?

  94. And don’t call me sweetie…..sweetie…

  95. Jim S. says:

    That is a really cool photo, Stuart! So, it is a Yanks hat? Nice.

  96. Wild Bill says:

    Looks like Olympic officiating has a long way to go to catch up to the players. Was a good game, though.

  97. Rob says:

    Shouldn’t there at least be a temporary Sochi for the founding father of this site?

  98. In other words, the Pirates are boasting indirectly, not directly.

  99. Brandie says:

    7 on the ice!!! SMH. Where is Bill Cowher with his photographic evidence when you need him?

  100. Milo Hamilton says:

    The good news is that watching the game online was very easy & now I’m all set up for the men’s tournament & the rematch of these two.

  101. Sarah says:

    DId they say not reviewable on the whistle?…

  102. Jim S. says:

    I know you are in the south, patton. But, where exactly? And, how bad is this storm going to be for you?

  103. Sarah says:

    They don’t know the offsides rule. I’ve seen Offsides called 2-3 times when the puck re-enters the zone off a defending player. That is NOT Offsides. Must come back in off an attacker. We know this in beer leagues.

  104. Jim S. says:

    Ok, woop it up!

  105. Sarah says:

    Baffling error made by the US Right-D on that breakaway goal.

  106. JohninOshkosh says:

    Czech and the Swedes play later.

    Sweden always plays well, internationally. They are a real threat for Gold. Not a cupcake at all !

  107. Jandy says:

    In other words, the Pirates aren’t boasting.

  108. Brandie says:

    Nigh as well bail as winning and common sense left a long time ago.

  109. Jandy says:



  110. Jandy says:

    Oh I got it, you’re the one that is not receiving…

  111. Jim S. says:

    Marte, perhaps.

  112. mcpitt88 says:

    Bob Walk thinks its kinky

  113. Correct…pitching not catching :)

  114. Jandy says:

    Hi mcpitt88, what city of the world do you hail from?

  115. Jandy says:

    zactly…but not receiving…must be snow.

  116. Jandy says:

    Sarah will love this:

    By Dejan Kovacevic

    Published: Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2014, 10:36 a.m.
    Updated 10 hours ago

    SOCHI, Russia — Brooks Orpik moved up to the United States’ third defensive pairing along with Paul Martin, his regular partner in Pittsburgh, on Tuesday in the Americans’ second practice.

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    In the first practice, Orpik was with the fourth pairing, which is where the healthy scratches go.

    This time, Cam Fowler and Justin Faulk were the odd defensemen out.

    “We have Brooks and Paul together five-on-five and on penalty-killing,” said Team USA coach Dan Bylsma, their coach with the Penguins. “There’s a lot to be said for familiarity in a short tournament where you don’t have a lot of preparation.”

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  117. Sarah says:

    They were very jealous I think.
    And the organization did not help matters by giving Crosby the C when he was still a teenager.

    That was just an idiot move. No matter how good he is nobody that young would be able to lead a team of vets. It put Crosby in an awkward place and didn’t help matters in the room. In fact I think Sid tried to delay it for awhile….cannot recall.

  118. 21sthebest says:

    Great Lawrence Welk impression gang!

  119. Jandy says:


    We forgot the bubbles…

  120. Milo Hamilton says:

    Liriano has reported. He was on my short list. It’s usually someone like a non-roster invitee catcher.

  121. Have no idea what that means…have a good day sweetie…

  122. Sarah says:

    5 on 5 on which pairing?

    Anyway, not unexpected. That ice is gonna look very big though.

  123. Jandy says:

    Like I said, you’re not receiving. Simple.

    You have a good one, too, darlin’


  124. Jim S. says:

    Excellent observation, Sarah! Gets my post of the morning!

    No matter how good a kid is, you just don’t hand him the Captainship.

  125. Milo Hamilton says:

    Early reports are neither arm is in a cast, so that’s a plus.

  126. No you said must be snow…is that code for something?

    And geez whats your problem? You turn a innocent and silly joke into a personal jabs that are totally uncalled for, not to mention false. Thats beneath you jandy. Disappointing…

  127. Jim S. says:

    Just read that article you linked yesterday, Milo, about the partying at the Olympic village. Gee, who would have figured the Curlers would be the biggest partiers? I thought they trained rigorously about 8 hrs per day.

    I loved when the anonymous female athlete from 2010 said she was still drunk when she went to visit the White House. She said she was so close to VP Biden she could have licked his nose without moving. He had to have smelled her breath.

    But, I can’t get the image of her licking Joe Biden’s nose out of my mind.

  128. That’s because it’s well past Christmas. No reason to knock on his kids’ door now.

  129. Jim S. says:

    Fortunately, we got him past that dangerous Christmas scaring season unscathed this year.

  130. Jandy says:

    ewwwwwwwwwwww that’s just wrong…

  131. 21sthebest says:

    Joe probably wouldn’t have noticed.

  132. And the dangerous “slipping in the shower” season, also, Jim.

  133. 21sthebest says:

    Except that I probably dated myself.

  134. Jandy says:

    You’re not alone, 21 lol

  135. You all have likely heard that NBC’s Bob Kostasis out with a double eye infection, and we’ll thus be missing his Olympic commentary.

  136. Milo Hamilton says:

    I hear Bob Costas is in pretty rough shape too. What a coincidence.

  137. NMR says:

    That is the oddest spatial description I’ve ever heard.

  138. Arriba Wilver says:

    Well, you’re in that 18-49 demographic.

    Hi, DK. ;-)

  139. pattonbb says:


  140. mcpitt88 says:

    Jandy in response to your post earlier I’m in St. Peters MO… (From PGH) and I’m already on the list!! : )

  141. Jandy says:

    Thanks mcpitt88, c’mon and join us more often :)

  142. Milo Hamilton says:

    Not anymore ! :)

  143. Waiting for you to explain up above jandy…

  144. pattonbb says:

    Greenville, SC. So-called experts are calling for 4-6 inches today and another 5-7 tonight. Our biggest snow since 1988.

  145. Jandy says:

    So sorry to hurt your sensitive sensibilities, dahling’

  146. Sarah says:

    Let’s hear it for clean water in those hotel rooms!!! I’ve been to India 3 times and you have to be SO careful. Don’t let water get in your eyes or (heaven forbid!) your mouth when in the shower….

    Do NOT rinse toothbrush in the sink tap…..ONLY use bottled water…..and HOPE it’s not counterfeit.

  147. Sarah says:

    Yup. Oh well.

    I thought Edzo was completely over his head though. I wonder if he could make a comeback as head coach now…..

  148. Jandy says:

    Be safe, patton!

  149. Jandy says:

    oh well.
    Time for a break. Need to go check on my dog.

    Later Loonies :)

  150. Thundercrack says:


  151. Jandy says:

    yeah ok Daddy-o :)

  152. NMR says:


  153. pattonbb says:

    Thanks, Jandy. We’re good.

  154. Jim S. says:

    Stay safe.

  155. bpn8pitt says:

    NMR, what did you think about Josh Hamilton putting on weight? Think its a little risky, given his injury history. My first thought is that he would DH but I imagine Pujols is going to see more time there.

  156. And now, while Michael Sam’s father is wishing him well in the NFL, he’s also old school and isn’t comfortable with his son’s gay orientation and doesn’t want the grandkids to be raised in that environment.

  157. JohninOshkosh says:

    Just saw a dude at Greenville gas station with a remote controlled snowplow.

    Amused Mike Seidel.

    I’ve got a plow on front of my truck. Maybe, I’ll cruise on down to SC. I’ll bring my chainsaw.

    Only $150/hr. :)

  158. JohninOshkosh says:

    Way to support your kid, Dad. Yeesh.

  159. Jandy says:


    I have a brother, who has a son and two daughters. hubby and I were at my brother’s for one of the niece’s high school graduation party, when my brother came to me with this dead serious look on his face. He said he had something disturbing to tell us. I looked him right in the eye and said, “We know about Nick, and it’s ok with us, he’s still your son, and our nephew, and we love him and you too.” He wept. Seriously. He thought we were gonna be upset and leave. If you can’t count on family for support, who can you count on?

  160. bpn8pitt says:

    From my understanding they werent close, but I think when you tell an immediate family member that, you do it in person, not via text…That report was very contrasting to what Sam had said in his interview when the story broke Sunday. This story is going to have legs for years. I hope for everybody involved Sam maximizes his ablities and destroys a lot of stereotypes.

    Heck I wish Jason Collins had come out sooner, instead of waiting until 36 when he wasnt the same player.

    Maybe I am wrong but I want those guys to succeed on the field too, not just in the locker room. It will break down the stupid barriers faster.

  161. theplanisworking says:

    Ignorance doesn’t know the difference, Jandy.

    We as a society have a long way to go in many areas.

  162. Jandy says:

    Oh forgot to put in there that, Nick had been putting it all over facebook that he was gay. Sorry Loonies!

  163. Jandy says:

    Yes, Hipposter, we sure do. Nick is a very sweet guy. We all love him.

  164. Thundercrack says:

    Philly paper (Matt Gelb) reporting Phils reached an agreement on a 1 year deal with AJ Burnett

  165. tdb1977 says:

    Just saw on twitter – AJ to the Phillies on a one year deal

  166. JohninOshkosh says:


  167. Damon says:

    $14 million I heard….

  168. JohninOshkosh says:

    16 million clams.

  169. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    Yep…Burnett to the Phillies for $16 mil.
    I’m SURE the Nutting Regime will use all that cash left over from Burnett to get “at least” one hitter….Right?!?!

  170. Arriba Wilver says:

    Well, at least we’ll get a draft pick.

    Wait . . .

  171. Thundercrack says:

    Is it too late for us to extend the offer sheet so we can guarantee a #1 pick?

  172. Thundercrack says:

    Viva La Regime!!!!

  173. Milo Hamilton says:

    I had them #2 behind the Nationals. I had the Pirates #5 behind retirement.

  174. Arriba Wilver says:

    Just checked, and Phillies draft 7th, so we wouldn’t have gotten their pick anyway. Not sure exactly how that would have worked. Would we have gotten a sandwich round pick?

  175. 21sthebest says:

    I want to say that A.J. just became a paycheck player but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that the Phillies could compete for a playoff spot even without him.

    Phillies President David Montgomery was on MLB Radio the other day and said that he didn’t see the Phillies doing anything more. I figured then that A.J. was gone.

  176. NMR says:

    Ha, first I’ve seen of this. Thanks for the heads up.

    Generally speaking, I think I do’t think bulking up is very beneficial to baseball players. Fast twitch, explosive muscles are needed for baseball movements, and doctors say heavy weight training actually makes these worse. But I also don’t think it is likely, if even possible, to naturally put on 25 pounds of lean muscle in four months. I’m guessing a lot of that gain is fat.

    Hitting is so much about muscle memory and body control that I suppose it is possible Hamilton actually is more comfortable at this higher, “normal”, weight.

    Certainly isn’t going to help him in the field, though. Now that the Angels have traded Morales and Trumbo in subsequent years, isn’t Pujols the only 1B left on the roster? They also picked up Raul Ibanez who is the definition of a DH.

  177. Thundercrack says:

    A team President not telling the truth?!?!?!

  178. theplanisworking says:

    Back in November, I stated that AJ wasn’t going to sign with the Pirates.
    I thought he would sign with the Nationals, or Orioles for about $18 million.
    Of course, I was told I didn’t know what I was talking about. Told AJ wouldn’t sign for anywhere near that number. Told the market was depressed for AJ. Told my logic for a deal such as that for AJ wasn’t sound.

    So today AJ signs with the Phillies for $16 million.
    I didn’t see the Phillies as a landing spot.
    But AJ got close to that $18 million huh?
    Guess I wasn’t so dumb after all………………

  179. NMR says:

    2nd round

  180. Arriba Wilver says:

    The news on Hamels may have sealed it.

  181. Jandy says:

    Would that be PBJ or Isaly’s Barbecue Chipped ham?

  182. NMR says:

    Do you need help patting your own back?

  183. Jandy says:

    agreed bpn

  184. Arriba Wilver says:

    Do you write this stuff down?

  185. Thundercrack says:

    I am not bashing AJ Burnett. This seems like a money grab, and he is entitled to it.
    It also seems to fit his criteria of playing close to his home.

    I wonder how he will do there in Philly. Their defense doesn’t impress me. Either does their bullpen.
    And even though AJ is considered a ground ball pitcher now and gets a lot of swings & misses – – doesn’t the ball seem to fly out of that stadium?

  186. JohninOshkosh says:

    Not in the division at least. For some reason, I thought the Cardinals might come out of nowhere. I usually don’t buy that “close to family” bit. Usually comes down to $$$.

  187. Arriba Wilver says:

    7th pick of second round?

  188. Thundercrack says:

    What is the news on Hamels?

  189. NMR says:

    I lost respect for AJ when he was too afraid to go back to the AL East. That showed me the guy is more talk than action.

    And by the way, Jim S., I owe you an apology. You had this guy pegged all the way.

  190. theplanisworking says:

    You’re not paying attention, are you Daquido?

    Now I can’t wait to see who the Pirates draft with that comp pick they get from the Phillies. What’s that? They don’t get one? They didn’t do a qualifying offer?? Oh well, at least I get to prepare for a blizzard tomorrow.

  191. Thundercrack says:

    Is it possible that people merely disagreed with you and didn’t tell you that you didn’t know what you were talking about?

  192. Arriba Wilver says:

    He’ll be doing nicely at $16 mil, thank you very much. ;-)

  193. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    There was as much chance of AJ Burnett returning as there was Barry Bonds…..
    No chance!
    The sick thing is that all that money is still sitting there.
    Some in Edinson Volquez’s wallet, and some in somebody else’s wallet.

  194. PetroSteel says:

    I’m just glad he didn’t sign for 10M/11M. I’m not as upset with the Bucs now. Although, they probably could have had him back for somewhere in the 12M/13M range. Buy AJ. We enjoyed having you! But, not for that number at your age.

  195. JD says:

    What’s up OshKosh? What time is the game Saturday? I’m always looking for an excuse to start drinking early.

  196. 21sthebest says:

    And he sounded sober.

  197. theplanisworking says:

    Not at all, unless you are offering.
    I just remember the crap I took for floating my idea back then.
    Unneccesarily, I might add.

  198. NMR says:

    Yep, #47 overall.

  199. 21sthebest says:

    Can you name names?

  200. theplanisworking says:

    No I don’t.

  201. NMR says:

    Thanks for sharing, Jandy!

  202. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’m in the minority here, for sure, but I like the Phillies as contenders if, as the proverb goes for all teams, they can stay healthy. Aging, yes, but talented nonetheless.

  203. Jandy says:

    It’s all good, NMR, we’re family in here :)

  204. NMR says:

    James, I understand your intent, but “old school” is not synonymous with bigoted.

  205. Thundercrack says:

    Funny tweet by Tim Williams:

    I’m shocked that Burnett signed a one year deal with the Phillies. At his age, I would have thought they’d give him 3 years.


  206. theplanisworking says:


    Every thing I said back then was met with resistance.
    Every single point. That isn’t a disagreement.
    I was told I was wrong.

  207. NMR says:

    Haha, this is getting funny..

  208. Bizrow says:

    I think we would have gotten their second round pick at best, unless they signed another FA that had a qualifying offer

  209. JohninOshkosh says:

    Yeah, AW. I haven’t followed that news.

  210. NMR says:

    Are they? Or WERE they?

    Utley is the only guy who showed he had even close to the same level of skill last year. And Cliff Lee. Cliff Lee will never stop pitching.

  211. NMR says:

    Still wouldn’t have happened, because AJ would’ve taken the qualifying offer.

    Nobody was beating $14m with a draft pick attached.

  212. 21sthebest says:


  213. JohninOshkosh says:

    That’s the half billion dollar question, NMR!

    I mean, I think they could tank big time. But, I might risk $20 bucks on them in Vegas and take the odds.

  214. Arriba Wilver says:


  215. JD says:

    I still think you’re dumb if that helps any.

  216. theplanisworking says:

    Not baloney at all.

  217. Had this forwarded to me from mother russia:

    Thought you guys would like to see.

  218. Arriba Wilver says:

    Tendinitis in throwing shoulder and won’t be ready for start of season. Saw it today, but don’t recall where.

  219. theplanisworking says:

    Another troublemaker heard from.

  220. Stuart says:

    Best wishes to AJ. Hope he wins 20, improbable as that would seem at his age. I do think he will miss the infield D here.

    Still, Good Luck to him, I wish he was pitching for our team.


  221. Jandy says:

    oh c’mon

  222. JohninOshkosh says:

    Good grief, the Swedes and Czechs already look tired.

  223. Daquido_Bazzini says:

    What else would one expect from a top Nutting Regime propagandist?
    Get ready….In the next few days, we will read all the reasons why AJ shouldn’t have been brought back.
    The silence will be based around why they haven’t added to this paper thin offense.

  224. Jandy says:

    haha 2-0 Sweden

  225. NMR says:

    Oh you’re absolutely right on that.

    Ryan Howard still mashed righties last year. If Dom Brown and Marlon Byrd can maintain their huge power peaks, the Phils are going to hit bombs.

  226. NMR says:

    Whoa. Shoulders. Yikes.

  227. Dom says:

    Bucccos Stink!

  228. Jandy says:

    Stunningly beautiful!! Thanks for sharing Monster Mash!

  229. pattonbb says:

    You could name your price if you bring that plow with you. Those are pretty rare down here.

    Santa brought me a new 18″ Husqvarna this year. I expect it to get a nice workout before this is over.

  230. I’m going with tremendously tremendous.

  231. Jandy says:

    good choice ;)

  232. Dom says:

    Do you all feel what is happening to that extra $25 million the buccos got? Are they going to extend Pedo? Are they pocketing it?

  233. 21sthebest says:

    So A.J., who apparently didn’t announce that he was going to play until the end of January, would have accepted a Qualifying Offer over two months earlier?

  234. Bizrow says:


  235. PetroSteel says:

    Dom, I wanted AJ back in the worse way but not for that kind of money. Looking at this deal and this deal alone. They can’t give a 37 year old pitcher that kind of money when they have exciting young players on the team and many more on the way. This deal just did not make sense for the Pirates.

  236. 21sthebest says:

    You didn’t get the joke?

  237. NMR says:

    You really believe he just now decided he was going to play?

  238. Milo Hamilton says:

    Wow, the only thing that drives this much traffic is the Riverhounds.

  239. Bizrow says:

    Well, at least this part of the AJ soap opera is over

  240. NMR says:

    All I know is that either Mike Rizzo made a serious offer or AJ has a friggin’ great agent.

    The Pirates clearly weren’t coming close to matching $16m.

  241. The Gunner says:

    I am so glad this damn AJ circus is finally over. Even though AJ suffers from a serious case of amnesia, I wish him well in Philthadelphia, except when he faces the Buccos, of course.

  242. 21sthebest says:

    I agree John.

  243. Thundercrack says:

    I like to read in silence

  244. Bizrow says:

    Stay tuned though….

  245. JohninOshkosh says:

    This Swede defensive corps is scary good.

    It’s good to be King with that group in front of you!

  246. 21sthebest says:

    So when should we have the “Should we boo A.J. when he comes to town over the 4th of July” discussion?

  247. NMR says:

    Allow me to take a page out of your book and request that any of the local writers do some actual digging and confirm Perroto’s $8m offer scoop.

    That should prove once and for all that the Pirates never wanted AJ back.

  248. Dom says:

    That was a lot of moolah…

  249. pattonbb says:

    No boos, but somebody can tell him to STFD.

  250. Milo Hamilton says:

    No they weren’t. And you’re 100% right about the qualifying offer. The Pirates didn’t extend that offer because they were afraid he’d take it. That said, I think this situation is about a lot more than money. I think they decided a long time ago they didn’t want him, but still went on with the PR game so as to not upset the fan base. Now we sit back and watch the fallout.

  251. Milo Hamilton says:

    Oh you just wait. Watch how much stuff comes out about this guy now that he’s officially gone. These guys will sit on all they know while they guy is still around, but the minute he’s gone they’ll start singing like birds.

  252. bpn8pitt says:

    I remember Ruben Sierra did the same thing along time ago and it killed his career. Whether it was legit or PED helped, is probably now a good question.

    Id like to think Hamilton banged out a lot of squats and deadlifts but who knows? Definitely not helping him in the field.

  253. Sarah says:

    They are puttin a beatdown on CZE, who have a couple guys in G I never heard of.

  254. NMR says:

    I agree with every word you said.

  255. Jandy says:

    Salak no better than the first one…4-0 Sweden

  256. Arriba Wilver says:


  257. Thundercrack says:

    Don’t you trust scoops from Perroto. :-)

    Has a local reporter reported that AJ had signed somewhere else yet?

  258. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, I just think they are counting on too many guys to stay healthy and get productive again. I don’t even know if Byrd will hit like he did last year.

  259. Arriba Wilver says:

    Bottom line is the Bucs FO gambled and lost. And that’s the best case scenario.

  260. In an interview after last night’s game, Le Bron James said that he’ll likely go down as one of the top basketball players of all time and that he belongs on the Mount Rushmore of basketball greats.

  261. Jim S. says:

    Blind squirre & acorn theory is all, NMR.

  262. Jandy says:

    Gotta love a humble guy…

  263. Jandy says:

    Zidlicky scores for the Czechs…4-1 Sweden

  264. Sarah says:

    Well where TH is Pavelec?? Did he not make the trip??

  265. bpn8pitt says:

    Thinking about this, feels like a 32 million dollar bet between the Pirates and Phillies, with Byrd and AJ.

    Be interesting how those guys do, and where these teams finish in the Standings. Hopefully youth is better served.

  266. buggee says:

    Is Cranberry Twp in ‘nere ‘n’ ‘at?

  267. Jandy says:

    I was wondering that myself! Maybe he’s drinking with the Curlers?

  268. Sarah says:

    Not so fast, Jags pushes another one past King Henry

  269. Jandy says:

    And Jagr just scored. 4-2 Sweden

  270. Arriba Wilver says:

    Call me crazy, but I think he will get a good reception the first time he pitches here. If I’m there, I’ll stand up and applaud him. And then hope he gets bombed out in the second inning.

  271. Jandy says:

    Sure is, buggee!

  272. Jandy says:


  273. Milo Hamilton says:

    What a complete disaster of an off season this has been for the Pirates.

  274. Arriba Wilver says:

    Jags may be playing in Olympics for many years to come.

  275. Arriba Wilver says:

    Smartest guys in the room . . .

  276. Damon says:

    Watching some of the Czech-Sweden game and three thoughts:
    1. Man there is so much room to move out there….Geno and Sid should have field days.
    2. The refs actually call penalties.
    3. Shots from the point wide open with all the space….Dman going to be a key (Karlsson has two goals today).

  277. The Gunner says:

    I agree, this AJ thing will probably get like a soap opera. AJ wore out his welcome with the BMTIB (especially Mr. Hurdle)

  278. Thundercrack says:

    I will cheer him too AW.

    But I hope he lasts long enough to get an at-bat. I want Garret Cole to buzz one right under his chin.


  279. Jandy says:

    he could very well do just that.

  280. Milo Hamilton says:

    Awful chesty.

  281. bpn8pitt says:

    Yeah, I think so. You were right, before. 94 wins, best season in 20 years and they lower their talent and payroll. I hoping there is something I dont see or a silver lining.

  282. Nate83 says:

    Nothing about that comment by him is incorrect. Jordon felt the same way. Kobe Bryant also feels the same way. Bird and Magic as well. I heard about this comment but I have no idea what context it was in. If he was asked a direct question asking him if he felt he was one of the best of all time I have no issues with him answering like that. LeBron is under a microscope more then any athlete except for maybe Tiger Woods has ever been. The guy for the most part has kept himself out of trouble and handles himself great. There are way worse role models in the world of sports.

  283. Bizrow says:

    When will NH’s contract extension be announced?

  284. JohninOshkosh says:

    Pavelec practiced this morning. Pierre and Eddie O said he looked good, too. Both ripped Czech hockey for roster decisions and decision not to start Pavelec.

  285. Sarah says:

    Slow DMen gonna be even key-er!

  286. NMR says:

    Disaster. That’s a bit dramatic for my taste. They are no better, but they are also no worse.

  287. Jim S. says:

    I believe he said his Top 4 all time were Jordan, Magic, Bird and Oscar Robertson. He says he now has to be in the Top 4. I think he said Oscar was #4, so that means Oscar has to go. Sorry, Oscar! LeBron has spoken. He never saw you play … but, he had to draw the line somewhere.

    No mention of Kobe (and all his rings) by LeBron.

    The thing is, LeBron, you are starting to rack up the rings. ESPN is a non-stop pub machine for you. Everybody who cares about basketball knows how good you are, and where you are likely to be at the end of your career.

    It reflects so much better on a current player when the player allows others to say these things about him rather than him saying them about himself.

  288. NMR says:

    I know you’re just being humble, but man were you right on.

  289. Jandy says:

    exactly, Jim. Well said.

  290. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’m sure he signed it months ago. They’ll get around to announcing it when the time is right.

  291. Jandy says:

    Wouldn’t that be the icing on the cake?

  292. JohninOshkosh says:

    Johnny Oduya is pretty good.

    That is all.

  293. Jandy says:

    There ya go, Jim, you’re the nicest guy on this blog :P

  294. tpbco says:

    What infield D are you refering to?

    Pedro at 3rd?

    Whose on 1st?

    Mercer at SS?

    This season’s D has a lot to prove.

  295. Jandy says:

    In the middle of the Stanley Cup FInals

  296. Jandy says:

    A little Dab O’ Douya ;)

  297. Milo Hamilton says:

    They lost 2 first basemen, their right fielder & their opening day pitcher. And replaced them with the worst starting pitcher in the National League. Oh, they’re worse.

  298. Sarah says:

    O-yes he is!!

  299. Damon says:

    I tell you what, with all the room to move out there and all the space Dmen need to cover, a slow defenseman will be a huge liability. This type of game fits Letang perfectly.

  300. Nate83 says:

    I’m glad it’s finally over. I will wish AJ all the luck and thank him for two great years. 16 million seems too high to me. Hopefully with this issue settled they can use whatever money they may have been willing to spend on AJ whether it’s 8 million or 12 million to improve the team either before the season or during the season through trade or free agent signings. The teams and it’s fans deserve a team that has spent appropriately to field the best team possible. They should not have a payroll equal to last year with everything we think we know about revenue increases.

    Sadly it was Cole Hamel not being ready to start the year that made Philly panic a little and get back in. It really shows the difference between the market sizes. I can’t imagine if tomorrow the Pirates found out Wandy won’t start the season they would be willing to shell out 17 million and I’m sure most other small market teams wouldn’t have either.

  301. Arriba Wilver says:

    If they had made the QO, either he would have taken it and they would have had a #2 or 3 pitcher that fit very well with what they are trying to do with their pitchers. Or, he would have declined it and they would have received a comp pick. And, as you pointed out, no way he gets $16 mil with a comp pick attached. Maybe they could have negotiated something lower than the 14.1 mil in that situation. They either didn’t want him at all in the first place, or they gambled that they could get him for less. They got nothing. At least, that’s my reasoning, and if you disagree I won’t take it as an attack. ;-)

  302. NMR says:

    Both first basemen stunk and the right fielder was only with them for a month.

    AJ is the only appraciable loss, and I’ll take full seasons from Morton, Liriano, and Cole to make up for it.

    One of these days we’ll all learn that ERA is a bad judge of “best”. Apparently AJ, Liriano, Melancon, Gomez, and Mazarro weren’t enough evidence. :)

  303. Arriba Wilver says:

    If they haven’t already planned for the possibility that Wandy may not be ready, they are dumber than I think.
    I don’t see the 2 situations as being comparable.

  304. Bizrow says:

    Except in their bank account ;-)

  305. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’m not sure I’ve heard him talk before, but Jonathan Quick did not sound terribly confident in that interview with JR.

  306. NMR says:

    Seriously Jandy. He’s so damn frustrating! :)

  307. Bizrow says:

    I’ll betcha Dejan is glad he’s over in Sochi right now, regarding the AJ topic ;-)

  308. NMR says:

    Yeah, that just about sums it up as well as I can imagine.

    Can I still launch an attack despite agreeing with you? :)

  309. Sarah says:

    Orpik….not so much….

  310. Jandy says:

    I know, right!

  311. tpbco says:

    Not to mention that their top closer lost 3 -5 mph off his fast ball, post injury, and is 38. If the mphs don’t come back, he’s done and the other other one (Melacon) imploded in the playoffs. Wandy, who I watched in Houston and was unimpressed with for anything more than a 4th or 5th starter, and Morton now almost have to perform above the mean.

    And they need to find a 4 AND 5 spot batter…one that has a BA over .235, regardless of how many HR’s he hits.

    Ya, a wee bit of work to do just to get back to even with last year.

  312. Arriba Wilver says:

    Take your best shot. ;-)

  313. Nate83 says:

    As the team currently stands they are not as good as the end of last year but I do think the team looks better on paper then it did at the beginning of last year and if Wandy is healthy (I know that is a big if) there is no reason he can’t give the same production as AJ.

    They didn’t get a full year of Liriano, Morton, Wandy or Cole last year. They patched together a starting rotation with the likes of James McDonald, Jonathan Sanchez and Jeanmar Gomez. They have some options if Volquez is just horrible. Locke, Gomez, Stolmy and Taillon coming in mid season. The two first baseman didn’t put up any better production then what we will probably get from whoever ends up platooning with Gaby. It’s not like we lost much value there. It’s a problem that’s still a problem not a new problem.

    Last of all the team could look completely different when we get to August. I’m not ready to panic before the first spring training game is played. If they finish the year with 84 wins and payroll doesn’t increase from it’s current amount I will be very disappointed because they didn’t give this team which was competitive their best chance of winning.

  314. NMR says:

    This isn’t defending them, mind you.

    Best case scenario they get a competent pitcher out of Volquez, which they would’ve had, if not more (likely), in Burnett. And I still think they end up with a first baseman that will stink jut as much as the guys they lost.

    Disappointing and underwhelming, sure. But disaster? I just can’t get that worked up.

  315. bpn8pitt says:

    Good points tpbco. Melancon was hit a little bit too towards the end of the year.

    Liriano being a two-time Comeback player of the year is kind of worrisome too. You dont get those awards without a big falloff.

    What a cold Winter. Smh

  316. Jim S. says:

    I still don’t know what to make of the AJ thing.

    With the news on Hamels, it certainly appears to me AJ had them over a barrel. And, since, in my opinion, they have an idiot for a GM, he was willing to pay pretty much whatever was asked by AJ and his agent.

    I don’t see the Phillies contending this year. They just have too many old, often broken down players to expect them all to have good seasons. And, it will pretty much take all of them (Utley, Howard, Rollins, Ruiz, Byrd, Hamels, AJ, etc, etc. ) having solid seasons, IMO, in order for them to contend. Lots of luck, btw, with that defense behind you, AJ! I hear they might use some shifts this year! Maybe he can gesture angrily at Jimmie Rollins at some point on the mound.

    If it was a case of $16 million vs. an $8 million offer by the Bucs, who am I to tell him not to take it? He already has a lot of money, but another $8 million beats a sharp stick in the eye (with apologies to Bob Costas).

    Did he have lingering resentment from Game 5 last year, and then felt the offer by the Bucs was a double snub?

    If he loses his first 2 games, those “fans” in Philly will turn on him so fast the end of the season won’t come fast enough for him.

    Easy to say the Bucs should have offered him the $14.1 million QO now. But, I don’t think anyone else was going to offer AJ this much money, and circumstances changed quickly in Philly. As Milo has been saying all along, the Bucs probably did not want AJ back all that much and they felt he might just jump at $14.1.

  317. JohninOshkosh says:

    The Swedes should have just sent the Detroit Red Wings as their national team to Sochi.

  318. tpbco says:

    Especially since, at best, Wandy, while penciled in as the #3 starter, probably is a 4 or 5 on a good staff.

  319. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yeah, you’re probably right. But a little hyperbole here and there is cleansing for the soul.

  320. Drew71 says:

    Na na na na, na na na na, AJ-ey, goodbye
    Na na na na, na na na na, AJ-ey, goodbye

  321. Jandy says:

    You’re exactly right…as it fits Karlsson as well. he’s doing great.

  322. Nate83 says:

    There are probably 20 reasons people can list of things that could happen that would make the Pirates worse this year. There are also 20 reasons you can list of why they will be just fine and improve in some areas.

    Maybe Grille did come back to early and actually will be more like his pre injury self for the entire year this year. It’s actually a chance for improvement over last years team at the end of the year if you look at it that way. That is just one example of how the same situation could be looked at in a positive way or a negative way. I personally have seen too many paper champions end up being horrible and too many perceived bad teams surprise and compete to try and guess which of the two scenerio’s will play out.

  323. JohninOshkosh says:

    Completely agree, Nate. LeBron was unjustifiably ripped on his move to Miami. The USA is forever indebted to his unselfish play in Beijing and London. He’s a gentleman and the best player I have ever seen play in person. That includes MJ.

  324. Jandy says:

    hey, that’s Spunky’s song!

  325. 21sthebest says:


    That reminds me. We’ll get our chance to thank Ryan Doumit for his years of service.

  326. Arriba Wilver says:

    I thought they should have offered it then. JMO

  327. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t know have an issue with LeBron making these comments, however he was the one who said this in 2010.

    “I got a goal, and it’s a huge goal, and that’s to bring an NBA championship here to Cleveland,” James said. “And I won’t stop until I get it.”

  328. Arriba Wilver says:

    You’re comparing Ryan Doumit and AJ? AJ brought something this team needed, and they won with him. Ryan Doumit?

  329. Nate83 says:

    It really wasn’t the point I was trying to make but if you want to use Liriano or Cole instead for the example go right ahead.

    I believe it was NMR that has asked if AJ pitched last year for another team would we have expected the Pirates to persue him or be upset that the Pirates didn’t sign a 37 year old pitcher with his stats to a 16 million dollar contract. It’s just not something teams in the bottom 1/3 of payroll or even bottom 1/2 do.

  330. bpn8pitt says:

    I with you Nate. But all this stuff is starting to add up. Going with this Lambo/Sanchez platoon and Snider/Tabata in RF (with Polanco on the way), reminds me a lot of 2011 when they started with Presley in LF and Tabata in RF.

    I mean didnt we swing the deals for Morneau and Byrd because those 4 couldnt cut last year?

    Pirates were playing with house money at the end of last year. They’ve risked it all and then some so far in 2014, the more I look at it.

  331. Arriba Wilver says:


  332. JohninOshkosh says:

    Well, he did carry a dog of a Cavaliers team single handedly all the way to the Finals.

  333. 21sthebest says:

    I was hoping that if he was leaving the Pirates that it would have been for Baltimore. Could’ve been the best manager/player dugout arguments since Billy Martin and Reggie Jackson.

  334. Arriba Wilver says:

    The $16 mil contract is a dodge regarding this argument. They could have had him for less.

  335. Bizrow says:

    Jeter announced this is his last season

  336. Arriba Wilver says:

    OR gotten a comp pick.

  337. NMR says:

    Amen, brother.

  338. Thundercrack says:

    I don’t think you extend the QO if you aren’t prepared to pay it if the player accepts it.
    The Pirates weren’t prepared to do that. At least I don’t think so.

  339. NMR says:

    You really need to take a look around the league and adjust your expectations to reality.

  340. Dom says:

    Are you happy he’s gone?

  341. Arriba Wilver says:

    That’s fine. But that doesn’t make “they weren’t going to pay $16 mil” the relevant figure. But it will be used to support what the Pirates did. Was he worth $14.1 mil? My answer to that is yes. And the fact he got $16 mil supports that more than it justifies ” they weren’t going to pay $16 mil.”

  342. Nate83 says:

    Agree I remain disappointed and underwhelmed but willing to let this all play out. I just don’t find it as devastating as some might. Hopefully they offered more then the 8.5 million that is rumored but without any actual information I can’t really judge. Maybe they offered 12 or 13 million and AJ decided the extra 3 million was worth it.

  343. 21sthebest says:

    John, did you catch the interview Jordan did recently on ESPN talking about having O.J. Mayo in his basketball camp among other things? It was gold.

  344. Jim S. says:

    As it turns out, you were right.

  345. Nate83 says:

    I’m definitely underwhelmed by what they have done so far this off season but when I look at what they barely missed on (Johnson, Lonely) it really doesn’t stand out as difference making type players that they should have overpaid for. AJ really is the only player they legitimately went after that would have seemed to immediately make a difference and he doesn’t come without question marks himself. There really wasn’t much available free agent wise that fit their needs. Almost everything was marginal improvements over the current team. Free agency is the worse way to add value to the team on the dollar. Players rarely outperform their contracts.

    I’m OK with them passing on AJ. They have had all of 1 hour to move on and maybe spend that money on something else. They have kind of been held hostage by this entire situation.

  346. Thundercrack says:

    No truth to the rumor that the Pirates asked D. Jeter to announce his retirement today in order to take the heat off of them for not resigning AJ Burnett.

  347. JohninOshkosh says:

    Did not catch it, 21.

    I’ll keep an eye out for it.

  348. Thundercrack says:

    No, the relevant figure to the Pirates was $14 million. They weren’t going to pay him that.

    It would be interesting to find out where the Phillies started with their bidding for AJ.

  349. Nate83 says:

    There really is so little we actually know including how much they actually value the guy and what the eventually did offer.

    I personally do think they should have made the QO that being said AJ wasn’t ready to make a decision at that point so I’m not sure what he would have done. I guess he could always accept it and then still retire but then the Pirates would have assumed he was in the fold and not went after any other starters. I’m sure 14.1 is more then they wanted to pay him but it really can’t be argued that amount isn’t fair market value for him. Going higher then you are comfortable with on a one year contract for a team that is competitive really can’t be considered hindering any future moves. I don’t mind them missing out on him but they had an asset that could have brought back a draft pick and they failed to do that. Who know maybe having the Phillies pick would have allowed them to now sign Ervin Santana or Ubaldo Jiminez.

  350. Milo Hamilton says:

    It has begun. Joe Starkey is on the air repeatedly calling AJ Burnett a jerk (not for leaving but just for the way he treats people). Here it comes. Funny how this just happened to come up today. Trust me, this is only the beginning.

  351. Milo Hamilton says:

    POTD nominee.

  352. bpn8pitt says:

    Good points Philly, Jim.

    One things certain. The expectations in Philly are much, much higher. Byrd and AJ had no where to go but up here. There, its a much different fan base.

    Huntington and Ruben Amaro had about the most opposite GM offseasons you could possibly had.

    Im gonna try to go July 4th. Military appreciation, the holiday, Phillies-Bucs, AJ-Byrd. Absolutely fascinating series now.

  353. Sarah says:

    Good call Milo!….Sounds like it might get ugly !!!

  354. NMR says:

    I was 99% sure this is the type of spin you were referring to above. So yeah, I agree even more.

    May as well write the “beer and fried chicken” stories in advance.

  355. tpbco says:

    No, I actually watched him pitch for 3 years in Houston. In virtually every start, he was literally one pitch away from the showers, pitching from the stretch almost every inning. Some games he made the pitch, some days not.

    Where would he be on the Cards staff or Cincy’s? Gotta start there, IMO. I think the better comparison is other playoff teams, not the rest of the league. Particularly given that this team has to have very good starting pitching, from opening day on or neither AAA hopefuls or some pickups at the trade deadline may not help in 2014.

    That’s assuming, of course, that this orgainzation is “all in” for 2014.

  356. Jandy says:

    Not really. I liked AJ and the way he sparked our team.

  357. Milo Hamilton says:

    When will Frank Coonelly release his statement on the Derek Jeter retirement ?

  358. The Phils
    made AJ an offer that was too good to refuse and he naturally took it. And now, you tend to wonder why the Pirates didn’t ever make a similar offer, especially if AJ meant as much to them as so often claimed.

  359. Thundercrack says:

    Ron Cook was on earlier mentioning that AJ didn’t treat clubhouse staff all that great.

    And he went back to the blow-up at the end of the season too.

    DK: A.J. Burnett was as popular and universally loved as anyone from the Pirates I’ve covered. I’m not responding to anything. Sharing my own observation.

  360. JohninOshkosh says:

    Hey JD! How goes it ?

    I believe it starts at 7 AM ET. That’s not too early to hoist a cold one, is it!?

  361. Bizrow says:

    Do you sign Volquez for 5 million if you have an offer of 14 mm for AJ? If not, you are paying 9 mm more, not 14

  362. Milo Hamilton says:

    We’ll soon get details on the blowup after Game 4. The Pirates will make sure of it.

  363. Bizrow says:

    Humbly seconded

  364. Patrick(ri) says:

    Sad he won’t be logging-fun -to -watch innings & worried that a pile of starters who would have semi-bulletproof are now . . .?
    I hope all the promising talent in the minors will stop the next streak at 1 year.

  365. Jandy says:

    is that a stutter or an imposter?

  366. Thundercrack says:

    I thought I read that the Phillies had a decline in attendance of 500K+.

    But of course they signed a new TV deal that gets them $100 million per year

  367. pattonbb says:

    Pirates made the decision to not bring AJ back last year. That’s their right. But I guess it’s asking too much to hope they actually made a baseball move to replace AJ instead of playing this ridiculously fake “will we or won’t we re-sign him” soap opera.

    Here’s how I think this plays out. Taillion makes the team right out of spring training. Don’t laugh. He makes the team and then Neal & Co. can say, “We expected this to happen..blah, blah….Jameson’s performance helped us make the decision to not offer AJ a qualifying, blah, blah, blah…..We don’t care about Super 2 status, if he’s ready to pitch in the big leagues, he’ll pitch in the, blah, blah, blah…..We’re not cheap!!!!!”

    Good for AJ, by the way. He pitched his butt off and saved his career in Pittsburgh. His stats don’t lie. He earned his payday. I think Philly was the leading candidate from the beginning. One of AJ’s best friends and neighbor is Phillies assistant GM Scott Proefrock. Doesn’t take a genius to figure this one out.

    Anyone care to come show me how to shovel a 250 ft long driveway? Can I use my lawnmower as a snow blower? Is there a specific time to start sipping hot toddies? This snow etiquette stuff is very confusing.

  368. Patrick(ri) says:

    “Would have been. . .” Hard to type through the tears.

  369. Milo Hamilton says:

    We proudly welcome the state of Georgia to winter.

  370. Bizrow says:

    Just wait till it melts ;-)

  371. Patrick(ri) says:

    ++ for the baseball stuff. Hand your wife a shovel for the rest.

  372. TJA says:

    I have not had a chance to read all the posts, but I will say this: No matter what has been said about AJ and this off- season and the back and forth of retirement and so on…AJ, I maintain, was one guy that made it cool again to wear those 7 letters across the front of the jersey. He was the one guy that maybe started this turnaround in earnest. Clint, yes. Andrew, yes. But AJ was different. Those young pitchers sponged up what he said. I wished he was a Pirate today, but he is a phillie (notice the small”p”). Still, I thank him for a couple enjoyable summers at PNC. Let’s move forward…

  373. Patrick(ri) says:

    Yeah, and he won’t look half as fierce in those ugly Phillie uniforms.

  374. 21sthebest says:

    Turn your sarcasm detector back on. Our fearless leader complained once that we didn’t get to thank Doumit for his years of service. Quote, unquote.

  375. JD says:

    Nope. Could be a Bloody Mary morning. USA! USA!

  376. bpn8pitt says:

    Probably sounds stupid, but I think AJ leaving affects Locke. Not the mentor thing, just in the dugout. Locke struggled towards the end of the year anyway, I know. But they looked close. Id say if they lowballed AJ, it rubs Locke the wrong way. Just an observation.

  377. The Phils made AJ an offer he naturally couldn’t refuse. And now, you’ll tend to wonder why the Pirates didn’t make him a similar offer, especially if he really meant as much to them as so often claimed.

  378. 21sthebest says:

    It’s on YouTube John. Also on YouTube is the actual video of Jordan at his camp when Mayo was in high school. It’s pretty funny after you hear the back story.

  379. Thundercrack says:

    And didn’t Doumit come back here with the Twins? I think I booed and cheered for him.

  380. TJA says:

    I agree with you on that, Patrick. AJ made it cool to be a Pirate again.

    That being said…Thank you AJ.

    Now, AJ..move it along….

  381. TJA says:

    Not stupid at all, bpn As I said…those young pitchers listened to him….

  382. Thundercrack says:

    If that rubs Locke the wrong way – who cares?
    He should worry about his own business, and find someone new to sit by in the dugout. And he should worry that the dugout he is sitting in isn’t in Indianapolis.

  383. pattonbb says:

    Right after his “Edinson Volquez, best arm of day 1 workouts” release.

  384. Bizrow says:

    Locke is out of options, so it won’t be Indy ;-)

  385. Nate83 says:

    Sadly this is not how AJ’s time should end with the Pirates. He gave 2 great years and definitely contributed in a positive way much more then a negative way. I wish all media and fans can appreciate him for what he was and look at the man in his entirety instead of picking out a few instances he may have been “difficult”. I’m sure many of us wouldn’t be proud of our worse moments.

  386. NMR says:


    I like where your head is at.

    The only way I can imagine that money actually factored into the QO decision is that because the Pirates already had an offer out to Josh Johnson (reportedly eight figures). Huntington might not have thought he had the budget to spend upwards of $24m on pitchers alone.

  387. TJA says:

    Well said TC…

  388. TJA says:

    Agree with you Jandy.

  389. Thundercrack says:

    I thought so too, but I think it was later determined that he does have one left.

  390. TJA says:

    I just was hoping it would snow in Ft. Lauderdale. I want my family there to experience what we have had all winter. All I hear is that it’s 80 degrees.

  391. The Gunner says:

    ha ha, Patton, that’s the spirit. All we need 2 good months outta Flabata until Polanco arrives in mid June.

  392. tpbco says:

    I’ll answer my own question.

    On the Cards – he’s likely in the bullpen, Cincy – #5.

  393. buggee says:

    likes it when getting THWAPPED by hot mamacitas with heaving bisons

  394. Jandy says:

    well said, TJA

  395. Arriba Wilver says:


  396. NMR says:

    Great post, TJA.

  397. Nate83 says:

    NH was pretty consistent saying they wouldn’t spend 18-20% of their payroll on any one player. I assume that would be an elite player so the chance of them spending anywhere near that for a 37 year old pitcher is very unlikely. He also said they would not be able to offer AJ market value. With him signing for 16 million it shouldn’t be a surprise it wasn’t the Pirates doing the signing.

    I’m sure they valued him but a team with 160 million payroll can more readily give 16 million to AJ then a team with 85 million payroll.

  398. The Gunner says:

    Of course that is the BMTIB’s plan.

  399. The Gunner says:

    Of course that is the BMTIB’s plan, Daquido

  400. NMR says:

    Who cares? We should all care.

  401. Nate83 says:

    I’m pretty sure he has one option left.

    Locke and maybe Mercer should be more motivated to succeed then anybody else on this team. Based on their ages and moderate success last year they have a chance to make this baseball thing a career. I would hope losing AJ would have zero effect on Locke’s performance this year. I would question his emotional make up if he can’t overcome something like that and put his best foot forward in what for him amounts to a crossroads for his career. He should be eyeing cashing in like Morton did in a two years and not thinking about how many friends he has left on the team.

  402. buggee says:

    did you mean “SCORE”?

  403. Thundercrack says:

    We should all care if AJ leaving affects Jeff Locke? Why?

    Locke is a professional. If he isn’t mentally strong enough or mature enough to get over the fact that his ‘mentor’ isn’t going to be beside him, or how AJ was treated by the Pirates then that says a lot about him.
    At this point he should be more concerned about how he pitches in ST.

    I think Locke will be just fine.

  404. TJA says:

    Thanks, Jandy

  405. TJA says:

    Thanks, NMR

  406. 21sthebest says:

    That’s right I forgot.

  407. NMR says:

    I assumed bpn was mentioning it affecting Locke on the field and not just hurting his feelings.

    Which makes it pretty obvious why we should care.

    I’d like Jeff to pitch well.

  408. Bizrow says:

    Thats good news, I think he’s gonna need it

  409. Milo Hamilton says:

    Ronny Paulino suspended 100 games for steroids. Further proof that if you stink, even PED’s can’t help you. Thought that might brighten things up a little bit.

  410. Thundercrack says:

    Without those PED’s he was even slower going back to the backstop to get the passed ball.

  411. Nate83 says:

    I do as well unless Wandy opens the year on the DL. I don’t see him beating out a free agent that signed for 5 million. He really is better insurance then what we had last year if somebody gets injured or stinks. Everyone forgets we started last year with Locke, McDonald and Sanchez all starting.

  412. theplanisworking says:

    Why do I have the feeling that the local sports media will try to out-do each other with the bad AJ stories?

    Hats off to both Milo, and Daquido for calling this a long time ago.

  413. pattonbb says:

    Amen, Gunner.

  414. Jim S. says:

    +++, TC.

  415. Bizrow says:

    Thats two strikes on Joggin Ronnie, right?

    Third one is a permanent ban??

  416. Nate83 says:

    I would like that as well because he will be needed at some point this year. Limiting his innings could really give us a better version of Gomez from last year and that was adequate if not better.

    Most seasons you will have 7 or 8 starting pitchers give you at least 50 innings. You need about 800 innings from your starters and the Pirates have nobody that is a proven consistent 180 inning guy not to even mention a 200 inning guy on their staff.

  417. theplanisworking says:

    Is the third one a season?
    Or is it the permanent ban……. ?

  418. JohninOshkosh says:

    A new twist on the Rickey quote:

    “You sucked with PED’s; You can suck without PED’s”

  419. Jim S. says:

    I think he’ll be fine, bpn. He pitched very well for 1/2 the season last year. He just needs to keep improving, like all young pitchers. He has plenty of support. If he lets that affect him, then he has stupidly turned his career over to someone else.

  420. Jim S. says:

    Cutch and Pedro and Walker, etc. were slowly making it cool again to wear those colors, IMO. AJ certainly helped, but let’s not overstate his importance.

  421. Thundercrack says:

    Isn’t this they type of thing the media does all the time? Stories come out after a player leaves.

    And I’m not sure how much I blame them.

    I think there might be a certain type of etiquette in regards to reporting things that happen in the clubhouse.
    (except maybe they witness a fight between players/coaches).

  422. NMR says:

    Raise your hand if you thought Ronny Paulino was still playing baseball.

  423. bpn8pitt says:

    I hope so. I believe someone above or before said he was out of options.

    Rather amazing, in the middle of last year before Wandy got hurt, it seemed the Pirates had a nice assortment of arms with more on the way. While I still think they could be okay, they no longer are as deep. Things change pretty quick, no?

  424. Milo Hamilton says:

    I had no idea.

  425. Bizrow says:

    minimum one year, 4th is minimum two years.

    At the Nuke Plant, first time offense for drugs is 5 years at any plant in the USA

  426. JohninOshkosh says:


    I could have sworn he fixed my Veggie Delite sandwich the other day at Subway.

  427. NMR says:

    Still a non-zero chance he’d be the second best catcher on the current 25-man.

  428. NMR says:

    I actually would say the opposite.

  429. NMR says:

    Dang! Who would’ve known the energy industry regulated performance enhancers? ;)

  430. Arriba Wilver says:

    I agree with you, Nate.

  431. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t keep score. Because I’d end up with DK like figures when he pronosticates.

  432. Arriba Wilver says:


  433. Arriba Wilver says:


    (Second Lawrence Welk post today).

  434. theplanisworking says:

    Ok , refresh my memory……

    was Paulino the “get” they got in the Bautista trade?

  435. Arriba Wilver says:

    That was to TC’s POTD nomination.

    Nate—tell me how $16 mil is relevant to whether the Pirates kept AJ, or got a comp pick.

    (I’m going to keep bringing this up because you do).

  436. Arriba Wilver says:

    I don’t think it’s an overstatement. He helped them, too. Can you imagine Pedro putting his head down like a bull running through AJ’s invisible matador cape for anyone else? He helped them relax and have fun.

  437. Arriba Wilver says:

    As someone else said earlier in the offseason, he had more to do with the change in culture than any one other player.

  438. 21sthebest says:

    I keep waiting for Bobby and Sissy.

  439. Arriba Wilver says:

    Should we boo him when he comes back?

  440. bpn8pitt says:

    Robinzon Diaz.

    Who I believe was not long for baseball after.

    I think the Jays should get credit for fixing Bautista. A few teams gave up him, not just Buccos.

  441. Arriba Wilver says:

    No. He was the reason they thought they were fixed at catcher with him and Doumit. That was before he started joggin’.

  442. Nate83 says:

    You are trying to have a debate where there isn’t one.

    I think they should have made the QO so we agree on that one.

    The mention of 16 million and the Pirates signing somebody, anybody (not AJ specifically) is only being mentioned by me in comparing small market and large markets.

    I don’t know what the Pirates offered, nobody does. I also don’t know what amount would have been enough to keep AJ. Only him and his agent knows. Maybe it would have taken 13 million. That is still a big chunk of 90 million. Based on everything NH has said it’s probably more then the Pirates would be willing to pay. I’m not saying I agree with that. It being a one year deal and them being competitive this year I think they should have overpaid.

  443. Baywatch says:

    Boot-A-Boomp, Milo!

  444. Baywatch says:

    LOL, on PlanIs needing some help patting his back, NMR!

  445. Baywatch says:

    LOL! You boys are on a roll!

  446. Baywatch says:

    This is getting like the Communist investigation of the ’50s!

  447. pattonbb says:

    Sounds like a plan.

  448. Brandie says:

    AJ was here, and now…let some members of the Pittsburgh sports media continue to vote him him Most Likely To Bail!

    AJ had the right to go where he could get the most value for himself and his skill set. He knows the window is closing, especially with the Hamels injury and the retirement of Roy Oswalt.

    Let me thank you AJ for the thrills, chills, and tats.

    How does one take PED’s and still suck? Guess there was never any performance to enhance. Time for Mr. Paulino to get on with his life’s work because it sure ain’t Baseball.

  449. NMR says:


  450. Ghost says:

    Plus many. Both for the words for A.J., and for the fun I’m now having trying to think of what would be Ronnie Paulino’s real life’s work. Oh, the possibilities! :-D

  451. And now, the comic Sid Caesar has just passed on at 91. May he rest in peace. He will be well remembered.

  452. Brandie says:

    He could always find work as an Olympic Race Walker.

  453. Baywatch says:

    And there is the little thing about him getting OLDER, TC! He’s gonna be, what 38 soon? And even though he was an innings eater, and good in spurts last year, he wasn’t as good as the year before. And he won’t be as good this year as last year, as he’s getting older. Something you could fairly put money on, anyway.

  454. Baywatch says:


  455. Ghost says:

    Those of us who even recognize the name are becoming fewer and fewer, though. I remember him from Hollywood Squares when I was a kid. His prime was, of course, already past. Just yesterday I was trying to buy a watch battery and neither the clerk at the store nor my own son ever heard of a Swatch watch. I remember when Swatch’s first came out and it doesn’t even seem that long ago. Now, like Hollywood Squares and Sid Ceasar, just a name from the past…

  456. Ghost says:

    By Jove, you’ve got it!!

  457. Baywatch says:


  458. Baywatch says:


  459. Baywatch says:


  460. Baywatch says:

    You preachin’ to da choir now, TC!

  461. Baywatch says:

    LOL! That’s what I was wondering!

  462. Brandie says:

    91years is way too young. Funny, funny man. :(

  463. The Gunner says:

    Ron Cook is a dolt with no class. What a crybaby!!!

  464. Eric Bowser says:


    A.J. Burnett to Phillies…..

  465. theplanisworking says:

    No, Buggee……… Brandie one night did a typo, and said SCIRE!

    Brandie is the new Queen of the typos.

  466. DJ says:

    Hey, I said here last July that Polanco would be up this year by June and got trounced.

    Someone said something about not taking the cake out of the oven before it bakes.

    They have nice ovens in the Dominican Republic I guess.

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