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Saturday column: U.S., Russia and ‘The Bully’

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

SOCHI, Russia — Доброе утро, Lunatiks …

>> The Saturday column is about U.S.-Russia and preparing for ‘The Bully’ pictured above, but it’s also about the bigger picture of the inherent weirdness of teammate plotting to defeat teammate.

The daily Sochi Hockey Notebook looks at Paul Martin’s ‘emotional’ Olympic debut, Sidney Crosby’s new linemate and a surprise tournament leading scorer.

Here are all eight videos for Channel 11 News so far, including the latest one on the variety of food available here …

I’m also doing weekday reports for TribLIVE Radio, and the Friday podcast was culled from a phone interview with Ken Laird. Used Apple’s FaceTime, and it worked just fine.

Here’s the Trib’s Olympics page.

Here’s the official Sochi 2014 page. This has all the schedules and results.

Here’s the official U.S. Olympic team page.

Here’s the official NHL Olympics page.

And here’s NBC’s Olympics page with all the highlights.

>> Trying to find soft and fluffy language to tell a tale about toilet paper is no picnic, but here goes: The Russians, concerned about clogging drains and the sewer system, would prefer that you dispose of your used paper in a small tin basket provided in every bathroom and every stall. In fact, they often demand it in strongly worded signs.

Presumably, that’s because few are following the order. And presumably, few are following the order because … ewwwww.

The punch line to this is that the cans are now commonly being referred to as the Poo Tin.

Think about it.

>> Oh, and if you’re in the mood for a cheap laugh at my expense, the Wall Street Journal covers my continuing futility at trying to access the ‘hidden Starbucks’ NBC keeps to itself  here.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.

Comments

  1. scapper says:

    NBC’s coverage has been stellar so far, but they finally had their first screw-up, and it’s a big one. Watching Slovenia-Slovakia and the announcer keeps referring to this one Slovenian player (or is it a Slovakian player?…no matter…it’s all the same) as “Koe-vuh-CEVV-itch.” Tsk tsk tsk.

    But seriously, the NBC coverage has been spectacular. I’m a Winter Olympics junkie. I watch everything. Their camera angles, close-ups, super slo-mo…just a stunning week of coverage.

  2. Will any truly substantial changes occur in locker rooms after Martin/Incognito has faded from view? Well, there will likely be some efforts to introduce a more publicly friendly locker room demeanor for public relation’s sake and to reduce the ethnic and racial tensions and the homophobia, but as long as men and women are involved in violent and brutal sports where one is expected to be tough and macho, well, such changes will largely be superficial and there will always be Martin/Incognito type incidents. And so it goes.

  3. Matt says:

    Loved the “Bully” column DK! Really looking forward to seeing how this game plays out.

  4. tdb1977 says:

    I am the furthest thing from being a hockey fan, but this US/Russia matchup has gotten me out of bed on a Saturday to watch it. I gently kissed the wife on the forehead, told her to stay in bed for a while, I’ll try to keep the whooping down, and head downstairs. Only one other thing got me out of bed early on a Saturday when I could stay there and sleep for several hours…a USMNT soccer match in the WC a couple years ago against Brazil in the knockout round, and now a US/Russia non-medal round hockey game.

  5. Rise n shine bitches…its da thrilla in sochilla! :)

  6. JohninOshkosh says:

    +++++

  7. tdb1977 says:

    For the hockey inept like myself – what should I be looking for in this match? Key matchups?

  8. JohninOshkosh says:

    Boy, could not agree with you more, Scapper. NBC’ s Olympic coverage of everything has been tremendous. Great announcing teams at all venues. Ability to watch things live, either online or through the night and morning on their family of cable networks. Political analysts to cover issues. Features and interviews during taped PT coverage. Fair criticism and praise of venues. Just outstanding broadcasting.

  9. Milo Hamilton says:

    Is everybody up ?

  10. Look for crisp passing and players not passing up shots with bodies crashing the net. I expect orpik to step up on someone early in the game(float like a butterfly sting like a bee). I expect team usa to want to hold onto to the puck in o-zone even it means eating the puck in the corner with their feet. Russian d can be exposed so i wouldn’t care if i had to dump it in on them if they manage to stay disciplined in neutral zone.

  11. Is it weird i already have my helmet and shoulder pads on?

  12. JohninOshkosh says:

    Thing I’ll be watching is the Russian defensemen. See how they approach the skating and speed of the Americans. The Russian defense is not that strong. Will they play passively and fall back on the goal. Or, will the Red Blueliners be aggressive.

    Be interesting to see how physical the Americans get. We’re North American hockey players, damnit! Let’s see some hits!

    Hoping my fellow Americans score early to take the raucous crowd out of it a bit.

  13. JohninOshkosh says:

    As you said the other day, too early for Milbury. But I’m up and here.

  14. Milo Hamilton says:

    The look on Putin’s face when the U.S. scores.

  15. Jandy says:

    I was wondering why Dejan was including this title lol. When I read it I laughed. Malkin the bully. Hooboy!

  16. Jandy says:

    woop woop!

  17. JohninOshkosh says:

    Here we go…

    Screw you, Putin!!!

  18. Jandy says:

    I’m up and at ‘em

  19. Milo Hamilton says:

    These Olympic size rinks were built for Phil Kessel.

  20. Milo Hamilton says:

    So when does Geno take a stupid penalty ? :)

  21. Sarah says:

    Watch to see If DB matches lines specifically ryan mcd vs malkins line.

  22. Rob says:

    Any thoughts on how to watch the game online? I went to the NBC sight it it won’t let me watch and I don’t have NBCSN.

  23. Jandy says:

    is it wrong of me to wish for it soon? ;)

  24. 21sthebest says:

    I’m drinking a delicious brewed coffee from StarYums!

  25. Carlson might force me to channel mike keenan’s inner monster.

  26. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’m not sure you can, Rob, if your cable or satellite provider doesn’t carry NBCSN because you have to log in on NBC’ s site using your provider’s account.

  27. JohninOshkosh says:

    Or, see Milo. :)

  28. Wild Bill says:

    Morning boys – you too, Jandy. Think the ref just took a shot where you don’t want one.

  29. JohninOshkosh says:

    Jonathan Quick, y’all.

  30. Jandy says:

    Mornin Wild One….no pity for the ref lol

  31. 21sthebest says:

    But had a wonderful sparkling Shiraz last night.

  32. Jandy says:

    We’s living up to his name, for sure.

  33. Brandie says:

    Wild Billy Jandy Monster Milo Tdb eberyone

    Recording the contest

    GO USA.

  34. Jandy says:

    MmmMmm sounds yummy. I opted for a Sam Adam’s Cold Snap

  35. Jandy says:

    G’Mornin Sistah!

  36. Sarah says:

    I don’t think he will

  37. JohninOshkosh says:

    Brooks Orpik’s name being called a lot. Very active so far.

    Geno denied!

  38. Sarah says:

    Morning dear!

  39. Sarah says:

    How’s your girl today?

  40. Sarah says:

    The Ryans McD and Suter on Malkin….every shift so far I think.

  41. Wild Bill says:

    Gotta say – the USA uniforms are major dull compared to the Russian ones.

  42. Rob says:

    Alas this appears to be my fate. I have DISH but not the package that has the NBC sports channel. NUTS!

  43. pattonbb says:

    Shoot the puck!

  44. 21sthebest says:

    I just said that and my little lady disagreed.

  45. Brandie says:

    Surviving Snowmageddon Round Two. Hope my hockey honey’s arr fairing well.

    Arr is a shout out to the Pirates.

  46. Sarah says:

    I hate all the unis……those shiny things around the shoulder….yuck.

  47. Jandy says:

    Really?

  48. Gmornin brandilicious

  49. JohninOshkosh says:

    Did Ovie dress? Pulling his patented disappearing act.

  50. Wild Bill says:

    Watching Kane on the PP is a lot like watching Sid.

  51. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Russians caught a break that that penalty came at the end of the period. The ice was starting to tilt.

  52. Jandy says:

    Brooksie holding his own, Kessel and Kane warming up, and Quick holding the fort….Period 2 should be interesting.

  53. JohninOshkosh says:

    Milbury coming on reminds me to go brush my teeth.

  54. Jandy says:

    Indeed, Milo, hope we carry that over to start the second.

  55. JohninOshkosh says:

    +

  56. Sarah says:

    God I hate Ovi. As a hockey player myself and esp as a G, he’s just the worst. Total Globetrotter, no D.
    Poor Genos gonna have to play both ends 100pct with Ovi on his line. Oh, and dump the puck, get the puck, and make passes. While Ovi cruises.

  57. Milo Hamilton says:

    That pretty much sums it up. That was my reaction the first time I saw them in the store.

  58. Sarah says:

    Yes! Orpik hangin in!

  59. Jandy says:

    Malkin has a voice, he should use it.

  60. Milo Hamilton says:

    Breakfast – 1st intermission. Shovel snow – 2nd intermission.

  61. Sarah says:

    Lavs coaching the PP. Can you tell?

  62. Jandy says:

    Yes, and he’s heating up. Looking for him and Kessel to break thru.

  63. Jandy says:

    Already had my bagel :)

  64. Sarah says:

    Yah. Don’t think they like each other tho.

  65. Sarah says:

    I have coffee but a game like this feels like I should have a beer LOL!

  66. He’s doing a lil more than just hangin…carlson on the other hand…and wheeler…oy vey…

  67. Wow how bout slovenia shutting out the slovaks?!?! My guy Kristan getting it done in net…

  68. Jandy says:

    Wheeler pissed me off! Grrr!

  69. Jandy says:

    More reason to use that voice. ;)

  70. Jandy says:

    “Hey, Ovi, you’re lazier than Neal…get your lazy azz in gear and do something besides cruize!”

  71. Jandy says:

    Rob, it’s the more expensive package, alas…sorry :(

  72. Wild Bill says:

    Second periods bring potential for breaks to players coming off the bench. Cat and mouse within the game.

  73. Sarah says:

    Yeah they are playing a much simpler D with slower breakouts and a lotta support. TG LOL! That helps any Dman.

  74. Jandy says:

    Ovie lookin pissed….

  75. pattonbb says:

    Maybe he’s hungover.

  76. Jandy says:

    AND your nerves ;)

  77. JohninOshkosh says:

    For Milo: strange to see Lavs not wearing an orange tie!

  78. Sarah says:

    I didn’t see it monster! I thought he looked like the real deal first game tho!

  79. Jandy says:

    Did I see that wrong???

  80. Sarah says:

    OY PIPES left and right

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    They’re all still on e-bay. If Bruce Weber was still at Illinois they would have gone well with that orange jacket.

  82. Jandy says:

    Ouchies Kesler

  83. Sarah says:

    Wow US so much more passive on this K

  84. Sarah says:

    Oh my. Hope that is not a broken hand…..

  85. Jandy says:

    Hope he’s ok

  86. Just saw the highlights and score not the game. Slovaks must be feelin shame.

  87. Wild Bill says:

    Saw that, too. Made us have to resort to shot blocks. Kessler not looking good.

  88. JohninOshkosh says:

    Kesler took one for the Red, White and Blue.

    Scary Russian PP unit.

  89. Sarah says:

    There is no way you ever wanna get sideways like that in a block….ouch indeed,,,,,,,

  90. Jandy says:

    Da*n you Bob!

  91. Sarah says:

    Oy Brooks

  92. Carlson in siberia on that play but orpik got his feet crossed up.

  93. Jandy says:

    Kesler one tough SOB

  94. Sarah says:

    Yeah….he drove outside hard while Dats cut to the middle. From Quicks perspective the D just parted. Ugh.

  95. Sarah says:

    Strange cos they were very aggressive the PK before….

  96. I think its time to bust out the shot/pass redirect from the high slot. Ruskies holding their own down low and in front of net so some curveballs are in order.

  97. Sarah says:

    Yeah….they are dumping in way more than I thought they would on this ice…..

  98. JohninOshkosh says:

    Team USA playing on their heels a bit in second period.

    American PP coming up.

  99. Ruskies staying sharp in neutral zone so there’s no choice. Time to drop the hammer on this PP.

  100. DJ says:

    Orpik caught flat-footed at blue line on Pavel Datsyuk goal.

    Not good.

  101. Sarah says:

    They are really clogging neutral. They know DB.

  102. Jandy says:

    THere IT IS!

  103. JohninOshkosh says:

    Hell yes!!!!!!

    1-1

  104. Sarah says:

    JVR nutmegs himself! wow…..

  105. Jandy says:

    As Hockeymonster said, Carlson in Siberia as well..shared blame.

  106. Milo Hamilton says:

    The replay official will get the opportunity to say goodbye to his family before his hastily scheduled trip to Siberia.

  107. JohninOshkosh says:

    ++++

  108. Jandy says:

    nutmegs lol love that!

  109. Wild Bill says:

    Nice work to create the goal. Dumb penalty. Putin will have Radulov sent to Siberia at the intermission.

  110. Sarah says:

    ….and GOAL!!

  111. Kesler playin ol’ time hockey…love it.

  112. Jandy says:

    kesler one tough SOB!

  113. Wild Bill says:

    Milo and I are both Siberia minded this morning. Can’t be any worse than Pa. Right now.

  114. JohninOshkosh says:

    My man crush is growing, Jandy.

  115. Jandy says:

    truth!

  116. Jandy says:

    Share him with me, Oshie? ;)

  117. Jandy says:

    Blast it Kane!

  118. Wild Bill says:

    Dumb penalty by Kane at the buzzer.

  119. Jandy says:

    end of 2…time for a stretch.

  120. Ok so if anyone has shero’s number or see’s him in the hallways(dejan) feel free to inform him that the high slot is WIDE open for shots and redirects. F3 needs to pop up into high slot. Not sure if disco will adjust but its there for the taking.

  121. Ya real mental lapse there from a 2 time cup winner.

  122. Thundercrack says:

    ‘Some form of sausage, large or small’

    I just watched the video DK posted about the food in Sochi

  123. Sarah says:

    Y’know I’m actually glad Ovi is with Malkin. He’s SO selfish he tries to do too much which helps the US D, and actually neutralizes GEno. On paper it looks great. On ice, not so much. We’ll see if Malkin gets more frustrated…..

  124. Thundercrack says:

    I don’t watch very much hockey anymore.

    But ever since DK wrote that column about how they should make the net bigger – that is all I can focus on when I do watch a game. It looks tiny.

  125. Sarah says:

    Did you just use Disco and Adjust in the same sentence lol?…..

  126. If you guys think malkin yapps on neal/lazy alot…you cant even imagine the 4 letter jargon he’s yellin in ovie’s direction.

  127. I proof read the sentence with great care.

  128. DJ says:

    Orpik’s man. A pylon on the play.

    Ryan McDonagh playing very well.

  129. Oh boy…here comes a jandy one liner…

  130. Jandy says:

    bahahahahahaa!!

  131. Jandy says:

    Yeah TC, that monster net looks smaller by the minute :)

  132. Jandy says:

    OK here we go, start of the last period.

  133. DJ says:

    As HM mentioned, slot is open.

    Would also like to see some hard shot-passes to forwards right off the net edges.

  134. Wild Bill says:

    Very nice kill.

  135. Jandy says:

    Blast it Brown!!!

  136. Sarah says:

    Heh heh heh….and. Geno likes Neal and hates Ovi….

  137. Jandy says:

    That’s what I said!

  138. Milo Hamilton says:

    Horsebleep call.

  139. Jandy says:

    Just wow…what a save by QUick

  140. Wild Bill says:

    Another nice kill, but time to stay out of the box from here.

  141. JohninOshkosh says:

    I think it’s no sleep until Gold for Quick.

    Outstanding so far.

  142. He’s fighting for the right…

  143. Jandy says:

    agreed. Another man crush?

  144. Jandy says:

    weak, but we’ll take it

  145. Sarah says:

    Great save. Geno has to elevate that.

  146. Milo Hamilton says:

    Anyone notice if Ryan Miller’s ballcap is forwards or backwards ?

  147. JohninOshkosh says:

    Nah, can’t crush on a Goalie (sorry, Sarah :) )

  148. Jandy says:

    WOOP WOOP!!!

  149. Wild Bill says:

    Pretty goal – and Radulov may not make it to Siberia.

  150. JohninOshkosh says:

    That’s our Wisconsin boy!!!!

    Big time international player!!!

  151. I can see many new born babies being named Cam

  152. Sarah says:

    That was just CRISPY CLEAN. Good gracious.

  153. Jandy says:

    Pavelski!!

  154. Milo Hamilton says:

    “Comrade Radulov – the President would like to see you.”

  155. Eric Bowser says:

    Finally, Kane shows up with that filthy pass and hammer of a one-timer by Pavelski.

    2-1 USA

  156. Sarah says:

    Radulav out of position on both goals?….

  157. pattonbb says:

    His face will be on a milk carton next week.

  158. Sarah says:

    Taken out back and shot after the game. Maybe after this shift…..

  159. Jandy says:

    hey hey , it’s Bowser!

  160. Sarah says:

    Watch for a lot of individual efforts from RUS now……

  161. Milo Hamilton says:

    If this holds up I’m picturing Putin’s exit from the arena. Think George Steinbrenner in Kansas City circa 1980.

  162. JohninOshkosh says:

    Siberian Express leaving for Gulags and points East-All Aboard!!!

  163. Lets get a shortie…

  164. Jandy says:

    No effn way

  165. pattonbb says:

    Crap….

  166. Reports indicate obama sending dustin brown to guantamino

  167. Wild Bill says:

    Dumb penalties are the story of this game. First team to find discipline wins.

  168. Sarah says:

    Argh….under the pad?!….

  169. JohninOshkosh says:

    Terrific game.

  170. Milo Hamilton says:

    He has no clue this is even happening.

  171. Jandy says:

    Sarah…if this gets to shoot out, who wins? Just asking ;)

  172. Sarah says:

    Oh dear….I dunno. We’ve got 2 Gs I don’t see a lot of!…..

  173. Jandy says:

    Nevermind…

  174. Sarah says:

    Oh no….we jinxed em Jandy!!!!

  175. JohninOshkosh says:

    Americans failing to clear zone.

    3-2 Russia

  176. Sarah says:

    Tipped on quick I think…..

  177. pattonbb says:

    Looked like it to me.

  178. Sarah says:

    OMG!!!!!!

  179. Oh boy….hope the refs brought a change of clothes…

  180. Jandy says:

    Nah…lol…but I think Russia just got robbed.

  181. JohninOshkosh says:

    High Stick! No goal!

  182. Sarah says:

    There will be a ref disappearing after the game.

  183. Milo Hamilton says:

    Revenge for 1972 basketball ?

  184. Wild Bill says:

    Very strange, the goal should have counted.

  185. Jandy says:

    indeed and make mustaches.

  186. Jandy says:

    rrr fake

  187. Sarah says:

    They did not say high stick.
    And it wasn’t high. Maybe net off mornings?
    What a break for US.
    Unbelievable.

  188. JohninOshkosh says:

    ++++

  189. Jandy says:

    That was a head scratcher

  190. Milo Hamilton says:

    The net was off. Good call.

  191. JohninOshkosh says:

    This one is destined for shootout, methinks.

  192. Jandy says:

    agreed!

  193. pattonbb says:

    Great line.

  194. Jandy says:

    haha me n Sarah was gonna discuss that…

  195. Sarah says:

    I think in NHL that’s a good goal.
    What a break for US.
    Horseshoes….make it stand up….

  196. Sarah says:

    And I got nothin! Toss up I say!

  197. Sarah says:

    Not in international.
    Net was off 2 millimeters.

  198. Wild Bill says:

    Yet another dumb penalty, and we will take it!

  199. Sarah says:

    This should be interesting.

  200. Milo Hamilton says:

    Disco drawing up the power play. :)

  201. Jandy says:

    to say the least

  202. JohninOshkosh says:

    Late PP for the Americans.

  203. JohninOshkosh says:

    Saturday morning errands must wait….

  204. Eric Bowser says:

    Going to OT…. outstanding game

  205. Milo Hamilton says:

    The ball cap is forwards.

  206. Jandy says:

    That answers that…it’s on straight ;)

  207. DJ says:

    Three Ryans (Kesler, McDonagh and Callahan) playing like beasts.

    Kelser has been ridiculous off the face-offs.

  208. Jandy says:

    GMTA lol

  209. Milo Hamilton says:

    #ryanmillerballcap

  210. Patrick(ri) says:

    WSJ article was a hoot, but I don’t agree that DK is right. He is not obsessive, just seriously committed.

  211. Jandy says:

    And playing with a bum hand

  212. Eric Bowser says:

    Kane w/ breakway….. UGH

  213. pattonbb says:

    Wow…I mean…wow.

  214. Milo Hamilton says:

    Scratch Kane from the shootout.

  215. Milo Hamilton says:

    Kane needs a beer. Of course, why should now be any different ?

  216. DJ says:

    Shootout: Datsyuk, Ovie and Geno?

  217. Sarah says:

    That’s fair

  218. DJ says:

    Probably Ilya instead of Geno since he’s a KHL’er now.

  219. Jandy says:

    Kessel, Pavelski, Kane

  220. Milo Hamilton says:

    JVR – 6 for 10 this year. TJ Oshie – 7 for 10 this year.

  221. pacioretty, kane, pavelski

  222. Jandy says:

    Oh I stand corrected

  223. JohninOshkosh says:

    All these years…still not a fan of shootout. But, like Detente, I’ve learned to live with it in non elimination situations.

  224. Jandy says:

    Oshie YES!

  225. JohninOshkosh says:

    Minnesotan Oshie…scores!

  226. Jandy says:

    Geno denied

  227. Jandy says:

    JVR denied

  228. Jandy says:

    Datsyuk denied!!!

  229. Eric Bowser says:

    Big GLOVE by Quick!!

  230. Jandy says:

    Pavelski denied

  231. Jandy says:

    up to Quick…Kovalchuk…damn

  232. Jandy says:

    Oshie … denied

  233. Jandy says:

    Datsyuk… damn

  234. JohninOshkosh says:

    Dats is unbelievable

  235. Jandy says:

    Oshie….c’mon…YES!

  236. ya baby…pop that water bottle

  237. Jandy says:

    indeed

  238. Jandy says:

    Quick, WTF?

  239. Jandy says:

    Oshie..omg

  240. Milo Hamilton says:

    Top spin lob by Kovalchuk.

  241. JohninOshkosh says:

    Oshie!!!!!!!!

  242. Jandy says:

    Dats….denied!!!

  243. I said….sweep the leg!!!

  244. Jandy says:

    Oshie….damn

  245. Jandy says:

    Kovalchuk…denied!

  246. JohninOshkosh says:

    Time to take my high blood pressure meds!!!!!!

  247. Jandy says:

    Oshie…YES!!! he wins the game!!!

  248. Jandy says:

    haha my Dish just went out! Catch ya later Loonies…stuff to do…GO USA!!!!

  249. Eric Bowser says:

    What a performance by T.J. Oshie….. and Jonathan Quick.

  250. Wild Bill says:

    Oshie now part of US hockey history. Quick as well.

  251. Milo Hamilton says:

    Putin’s going to the locker room to fire Dick Howser.

  252. Milo Hamilton says:

    #ryanmillerballcap

  253. DJ says:

    Three between the The Bob’s wickets.

    Sweet!

  254. Well, the US won 3-2 in overtime! Sorry Mr. Putin!

  255. scapper says:

    Whoooaaa, easy there. Agreed that Ovie has serious issues as a two-way player, but “the worst?” He is easily one of the top five pure goal scorers I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen ‘em for a long time. He can be beautiful to watch.

    And this is from a rabid Pens fan living Caps territory, and I assure you that I am not now nor ever will root for Ovie and the Caps.

  256. Sarah says:

    That was exhausting Peeps!!!
    I gotta say, I do NOT like the rule allowing Same Shooter after 3 attempts.

    It should be a tougher test of depth IMO. Maybe after 6. But that was just silly.

  257. JohninOshkosh says:

    Any word on whether AJ Burnett enjoyed the game ?

  258. Arriba Wilver says:

    Really fun game. Even I knew Quick was good, but didn’t know Oshie. Now I do. That vanwhatshisname attempt at a goal between his legs backwards was fun.

  259. Pucknutz says:

    Exhausting is an understatement !!!! LOL

    I however loved the same shooter – Both just hung in there soooo unfazed by the pressure – WOW!
    Great game – strange drinking coffee instead of liquid bread though. :)

  260. Arriba Wilver says:

    In the interview after Oshie said after a while he was telling the guys on the bench, “hey, I’m running out of moves.” And no, he wasn’t complaining.

  261. Arriba Wilver says:

    Hey, John, take it to the Travis or 24/7 threads. Didn’t you get the memo? ;-)

  262. DJ says:

    Yes, have liked him for a few years now. Very gritty.

    Often imagined him with the Pens.

  263. Sarah says:

    It’s DKs all baseball all the time blog!!!! Have at it!!!

  264. Sarah says:

    Well RUS impressed me. They’ve got guys from KHL playing big minutes and but for the net being off an inch, they win.

    Imagine if Bylsma had to play 7 guys from wilkesBarre…..

    They seemed very conservative ES, had a 1-4 FC, and clogged neutral really well. Then hoped Malkin/Dats/ Ovie could win it. Which they almost did…..

    I thought US would handle them fairly easily but boy was I wrong! Hmmm.

  265. Brandie says:

    Does this raise any red flags about a potential match up with Canada? Not sure. What say you Sarah?

  266. Sarah says:

    Good question. I’ve thought CAN has been mostly individuals, as RUS is ….but I think CAN will be better defensively than RUS….so I lean to CAN.
    But really, much feels like a toss-up. US got outplayed today yfor large parts of the game by a team with many non NHL level players.

    CAN does not have any nonNHL players.

  267. Sarah says:

    Also I’m confirmed in my belief that Ovie brings any team he’s on, down. The guy for all his skills, is just sh-t when it comes to actually bringing it when it counts. Can’t imagine Genos frustration factor playing w the guy.

  268. Arriba Wilver says:

    ?

  269. I think russian d played above and beyond what they’re capable of when it comes to consistency. Not sure they can hold up against that level of play if we played them again tomorrow. USA team has another level they can reach if they stay out of the box.

  270. Sarah says:

    Yep, maybe. I did not expect RUS tot stay w US. With KHL guys, cripes.
    US will need that other level v CAN for sure.

  271. Brandie says:

    Methinks Ovie will meet with an unfortunate accident per KGB!

  272. Wild Bill says:

    Some of you don’t like the potential for repeat shooters after the first three in the shootout. I don’t either, but I am glad that Coach B didn’t overthink the use of Oshie and use somebody else. Can you imagine the second guessing if he had and we had lost the shootout?

  273. Sarah says:

    Yes there would have been second guessing….always gonna happen in SO. I’m second guessing why they could not score more than 2 goals on a D peppered with minor leaguers.

  274. Sarah says:

    Meanwhile SWE much less than I thought…..struggling 2-2 w LAT now….?

  275. ORPIK, MARTIN STEADY
    As they’d thought the previous day, Brooks Orpik and Paul Martin played as a pair and matched up — most of the time, anyway — against the Ovechkin-Malkin-Alexander Semin line. Orpik was a minus-1 because a forward failed to pick up Pavel Datsyuk early in the neutral zone. Martin had an even rating and was the Americans’ coolest with the puck at any position.

    Dejan, you can blame pacioretty for orpiks -1 if you’d really like to but if carlson plays routine defense that lane for datsyuk doesn’t exist. Orpik got his feet crossed up too. Actually allow me to explain differently, although pacioretty got turned the wrong way initially his job is similar to that of a Free Safety in a zone defense. When carlson cheated over to the winger along the boards that was similar to a Cornerback biting on a pump fake leaving the secondary open.

    Orpik will own that -1 but carson’s ice time, or lack there of post datsyuk goal tells the real story.

  276. Jim S. says:

    I was just about to post that, Wild Bill. If they don’t win the shootout, Bylsma is being crushed right now all across the country.

    I’m sure people here in Chicago hate him for making their little sweetie, Patrick Kane, sit and watch the shootout anyway.

  277. Jim S. says:

    Here’s an update from Sochi. #Team Russia has announced that the guy in charge of ensuring the moorings don’t come loose on the nets has agreed to accept a transfer to Siberia for a “career opportunity” that has just presented itself. Vladimir Putin made the offer himself, apparently.

  278. Jim S. says:

    Ovie had a -5 in one NHL game this year. I mean, does any truly great player ever have a -5 in any game in his career these days? That is not easy to do.

  279. Sarah says:

    ?? I saw the Ryan’s vs malkins line almost all game?….on PK occasly Malkin and Orpik were out there.

    And datsyuks lane was on Orpiks side. He came up from the RW side thru neutral. Orpik was flat footed at center ice, punched hard to accelerate and went to the outside while Dats saw that and went inside. Opening a huge gap.

    Carlson was not responsible for the lane that opened up. It wasn’t his lane. It was Orpiks.

    Wow HM , we are way disagreeing here. Orpik owns that minus totally IMO. And he and Martin were not assigned to Malkin, from the get go. They were mostly out there v Dats, Though in fairness I did not track shifts much in the third period.

  280. DJ says:

    Agreed. As mentioned above, Orpik was a pylon . . . not to pile on.

    If I’m a professional hockey player whose skills have faded to “shell of former self” status, I want HM as my public relations man.

  281. Sarah, carlson had no reason to be so far to the right when datsyuk was winding it up. If he backs up in unison with orpik they’re fine. Take a gander at carlson’s ice time too. He played under 4 minutes.

  282. Pointed out that orpik had his feet crossed up in real time but that only got exposed cuz carlson cheated and got burned.

  283. DJ says:

    “TJ S-Oshie!” would be a nice headline for Sunday’s Trib.

  284. OOOOHHHH wait sarah, are you aware that i copied and pasted the 1st paragraph from the post game article? I did that just to point out the -1 thing. I addressed dejan after pasting that paragraph from his article.

  285. DJ says:

    Yeah, I saw that.

    And I think Orpik’s skate lace was untied as well.

  286. Come on DJ, orpik n martin both did outstanding. You cant give datsyuk some credit? Fowler was huge and got better too. Mcdonagh and Suter were tremendously tremendous too.

  287. DJ says:

    Ha! You’re certainly consistent, HM, I’ll say that.

    Are you still washing Brooks’ car on weekends?

  288. How do you know its not the other way around?

  289. DJ says:

    Good point.

    Maybe he’s getting ready for his life’s work.

  290. Jim S. says:

    I thought the game was great. Very exciting. But, I think they need to change the rule that allows one guy so many shootout chances. 1 is enough, thank you. Or, maybe after x # of rounds, you can get a 2nd shot. But, once you get to shootout you are already allowing the game to be decided in a gimmicky sort of way IMO. At least, make a country prove they have several talented shootout options.

    That said, Go #TeamUSA!!!

  291. Pucknutz says:

    Anybody know if the shootouts go away in the medal rounds like they do in NHL playoffs ?

  292. Pucknutz says:

    I believe in your belief ! Well said.

  293. JohninOshkosh says:

    Shootouts in qualifying games, quarterfinals, semi-finals and gold medal game.

    OT in quarterfinals and semi-finals are 4 on 4 for 10 minutes.
    OT in final gold medal game is 4 on 4 for 20 minutes.

    Shootout formula for semis and final game is same as this morning.

  294. JohninOshkosh says:

    I’m against shootouts generally. In my opinion, the NHL should play, for regular season, one 10 minute OT, 4 on 4. If tied-1 point each and no points in event of OT loss. No shootouts. Then, in playoffs, no shootouts and 20 minute sudden death 5 on 5 (just like they currently do).

    That being said, in a short, compressed tournament like the Olympics, they can’t have multimillion dollar properties playing gruelling, physical, endless OT while said players are in the middle of long hard season for their NHL clubs. There has to be shootouts. You saw today how hard these guys are going after it. Can’t risk a multi OT battle for the ages in this circumstance.

  295. Arriba Wilver says:

    And, today’s was entertaining. Kind of more important than some mythical approach, which we all can agree or disagree on. Sports is entertainment.

  296. JohninOshkosh says:

    Quiet Saturday night at my house. Kids are with their mother at Legos movie. A few thoughts:

    1. The Russians are fuming over the disallowed goal. They claim Quick knocked the net off the moorings and should’ve been given a 2 minute penalty. Quick’ s LA King teammate, Russian Slava Voynov, told reporters he has seen Quick internationally do just that with the Kings.

    One thing with putting teammates on different rosters, dirty laundry and secrets might get aired.

    Weirdly, Bylsma says he was never told why the goal was disallowed.

    2. As wild as it seems, if Russia beats Slovakia tomorrow morning and Slovenia were to defeat the Americans in regulation time, in an upset for the ages, the United States would not get a bye to the quarterfinals. The Americans would be forced to play in the sudden death qualifying round. Dejan has noted that the population of Slovenia is less than Allegheny County.

    3. The Florida Panthers had 2 players in the Olympic tournament. Aleksander Barkov (Finland) and Thomas Kopecky (Slovakia). Both got hurt during the Olympics and will miss NHL games.

    Exactly why some NHL owners and GM’ s are opposed to their players competing in the Olympics.

    4. Canada and Finland play tomorrow after the Americans. Both teams are advancing with byes, but game will determine seeding in the quarterfinals. Should be entertaining, as well.

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