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Vacation thread 2-25-14

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

MOSCOW, Russia — On break until March 10. Please feel free to use this post as a discussion thread, as always.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Stuart says:

    So DK will not be back until 5 days after the NHL trade deadline. Rossi will have to step it up.


  2. Bizrow says:

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  3. Bizrow says:

    It will be good to have Dejan back in the burgh

  4. Ghost says:

    Rumor has it he never made it past the airport Starbucks in Moscow. He was found seated on the floor in a corner, buried under a pile of empty paper cups.

  5. Bizrow says:

    • • Welcome Lunatics, if you don’t see your current location below, please add a reply to this post

    Dejan’s Lunatic Nation

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    Arizona – Tucson, Chandler, Phoenix, Sunnyslope, Davis-Monthan AFB*, Lake Havasu City
    • Argentina, Buenos Aries
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    Massachusetts – Boston, Tyngsboro, East Gloucester*, 617 Strong*, Medford
    Mecca – Slienmann*
    Michigan – Kalamazoo, Eaton Rapids, Lansing, Ann Arbor, Mason, Battle Creek
    Minnesota – Yinzer, St Paul
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    Missouri – St Peters***
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    New Jersey – Chesterfield, Princeton, Roxbury, Lebanon, Lincoln Park, Berkeley Heights, Somerville, Hammock, Barrington, Delran, Pennsville, Hammonton, Mullica Hills, JERSEY SHORE, Montclair, Monmouth Beach
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    Nevada, Las Vegas, Henderson, Reno
    North Carolina – Asheville, Hickory, Charlotte, Raleigh, Wilmington, Chapel Hill, High Point, Winston Salem
    Ohio – Cincinnati, Columbiana, Westerville, Green, Hilliard, Toledo, Louisville, Columbus, Perrysburg, Pickerington, Youngstown, Cleveland, Olmsted Township, Liberty Township, Warren, Oregon, Wintersville, Austintown, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base*, New Philadelphia, Powell, Canton, Salem, New Albany, Bloomingdale, Powell, Howland, Grafton, Northwood, Middletown, Dayton, Cambridge, Martins Ferry, Akron
    Oklahoma – Tulsa – OKLAHOMA CITY/MOORE ,,
    Oregon – Roseburg, Eugene
    Pennsylvania – Downtown, Hopewell, Indiana, North Wales, Franklin Park, Forest Hills, Lansdale, Philadelphia, Du Bois, Reading, Crafton, Arnold, Wexford, Mt Lebanon, Canonsburg, Lancaster, Huntington, York, Boiling Springs, Philly suburbs, Morningside, Harrisburg, Lawrenceville, Bradford Woods, Norristown, Hanover, Clearfield, Sewickley, Plum Boro, Slippery Rock, Wilkes-Barre, Sharpsville, Bessemer, Greensburg, Washington, Imperial, South Side, Duncansville, Newville, Sheppton, Grove City, Butler, Allentown, Ross Township, Blairsville, Flood City (Johnstown), Overbrook, Danny’s Hoagies, Baldwin, Economy, Sharpsville, Erie, North Huntington, Bellfonte, West Mifflin, Kennywood, Pleasant Hills, Beechview (Mad Turk, No 200), Macgunie, Mechanicsburg, Uptown, Cambria County, Mon Valley, Salisbury, Coraopolis, Emsworth, Cranberry Twp, Garrett, O’Hara Township, McCandless Township, 115 Federal Street, Bethel Park, Harrison City, Penn Hills, Kittanning, Dover, Lebanon, Upper St Clair, Rennerdale, Oakland, Scranton, Moon (RMU), State College, Erie, Penn Twp, Stowe, Elizabeth, Hermitage, Easton, Carlisle, Finleyville, Belle Vernon, Madison, Sellersville, Waynesburg, Warren, Beaver Falls, Chambersburg, Green Castle, East Freedom, Leechburg, Banksville City, Ellwood City, Hollidaysburg, Bethlehem, Mars, Verona, Philipsburg, Phoenixville, Hippos Pond, Oil City, Verona, Hookstown, Squirrel Hill, Natrona, Charleroi, FREEDOM, Denver, Midland (the home of good food and many bars), Selinsgrove, Dormont, Scott Township, Blawnox, Arnold, Ligonier, Wells Tannery, Swoyersville, St Mary’s, Titusville, Shippingsburg, Sharpsville, Brookville, Mountain Top, Mt Joy, Bloomsburg, Portage, Carnegie, Homer City, Allepo Township
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    Wisconsin – Madison, Oshkosh, Hortonville
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    Nominations are always welcome
    Any Allegheny, Pirate, Crawford, Gray, Steeler or Penguin player in the League’s Hall of Fame, although if Jagr makes it some day, we gotta talk
    Stan “The Man”, from Donora
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    The Gunner, Mr Bob Prince
    The Great One, he stays regardless
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    Three planets, at least confirmed, and the Space Station
    Then there was that Cold day in Hell place
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    “Terrorists will always lose in America, the sooner they figure that out, the better”- truer words have never been spoken
    Asterisks denote confirmed hero’s of any species, military, police officers or firemen/ladies
    • 2/25/2014 12:32 AM

  6. Bizrow says:

    But, he has that Starbucks buzz ;-)

  7. MLB now bans most collisions at home plate. It’ll be interesting to see how that all turns out.

  8. tdb1977 says:

    Since the boss is away until March 10th, lets talk about the Tigers Bullpen!

  9. Jandy says:

    How tall are they???

  10. Thundercrack says:

    So Ike Davis had an injury last year and didn’t tell anyone. And according to this report in an a NY paper, he has a reputation that ain’t so good:

    ‘…and not a washout who has struggled for two seasons while fighting a perception around baseball that he liked the nightlife a little too much.’

  11. FlBucco says:

    Fort Pierce, FL until May 4!

  12. FlBucco says:

    Over and Under on Lambo first Spring Training HR ABs
    – I’ll go with 22…

  13. NMR says:

    NY Post?

  14. JohninOshkosh says:

    I live in NYC. I’m young and play for a professional ball club. I’m rich.

    I like the nightlife!

  15. Dom says:

    I like the idea.

  16. Thundercrack says:

    And you may find your self in AAA….which is in, wait, Las Vegas?!

    I agree JohninO. I always admired Mike Piazza. Making a boatload of money playing a game he loves. Single. Played in Miami, LA and New York.

  17. I like to boogie…

  18. Thundercrack says:

    The Post or Daily News

  19. JoeyBats says:

    I believe the classic quote is “I sucked because I sucked….” ;-)

  20. 21sthebest says:

    I didn’t really view the proposed rules as banning most collisions.

  21. 21sthebest says:

    On the disco ’round?

  22. 21sthebest says:

    I always admired Wilt Chamberlain.

  23. You have probably heard by now that the trial of the double amputee South African Olympic athlete Oscar Pistorius for the shooting of his model girlfriend over a year ago will begin on Monday and will be partially televised in South Africa.

  24. Florida is now number 1 in the AP college basketball poll while Syracuse is now no. 4 since its undefeated streak has been broken.

  25. JohninOshkosh says:

    Seriously, I happened to be watching the Mets telecast last year the night Davis had been demoted to Vegas. I remember there was no criticism by Cohen, Darling or Hernandez of the Mets decision. And zilch defense of Ike. I remember thinking that they know something we don’t.

  26. NMR says:

    No surprise.

  27. The Pirates will be playing an intra squad game this afternoon at McKechnie Field in Bradenton and the first exhibition game will be played tomorrow afternoon versus the Yankees.

  28. JAL says:

    managed some baseball links

    JAL’s Oh What a Beautiful Mornin’ Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 BFFL’s 2014 Pirates Stats Spreadsheet

    4 Pirates Prospects Spring Training Tracker

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: The Lack of Third Base Depth

    Pirates Claim Brent Morel Off Waivers From Toronto

    6 Bucs Dugout

    Pirates designate Chase d’Arnaud for assignment

    7 Rumbunter

    Comparing Pirates Black & Gold Game Lineups 2013 vs 2014

    A.J. Burnett Will Make Phillies Debut Against Pirates

    8 Green Weenie

    2/24: Flying Dutchman, Wilbur Cooper, Earl Grace, Bye-Bye Bucs….


    Pirates claim Brent Morel, designate Chase d’Arnaud for assignment

    10 Saber Bucs

    Before You Say, “Bust” . . .

    11 City of Champions

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Francisco Liriano Tabbed To Start Spring Training Opener

  29. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    12 Bradenton Herald

    Pirates’ McCutchen a different type of leader

    13 IS Sports

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Jordy Mercer is ready for everyday role

    14 Pirates Site

    Would collision rule have blocked Bucs’ playoff path?

    15 Beaver County Times

    Thornton a surprise addition to Pirates’ spring staff

    16 Fangraphs

    How Teams Are Allocating Their 2014 Payrolls

    17 Tootblan Tracker

    2013 TOOTBLAN Year In Review: Pirates

    18 St. Louis Post Gazette

    Bird Bytes: Will it be Kelly or Martinez?

    19 Baseball Prospectus

    The Week In Quotes

    20 Chicago Tribune

    Career turnaround in works for Jonathan Sanchez

  30. Jim S. says:

    With just a hint of mocha latte on his breath.

  31. Jandy says:

    Not sure what to think of this:

    Somehow I highly doubt Kris Letang would do that.

  32. JohninOshkosh says:

    I was in my high school’s production of Oklahoma! It was a Must. Not. See.

    I’ve said it before: I never went to prom.

  33. Jandy says:

    You rock, Joe!

  34. Jandy says:


  35. Jim S. says:

    I don’t like catchers getting wiped out, but I see this as a big cluster.

  36. Bless you, brother Joe. Hope you weren’t posting and driving. ;)

    Hard to imagine d’Arnaud had 157 plate appearances with the Bucs. Also hard to imagine they DFA’d him and kept Milo’s favorite pitcher, Andy Oliver.

    Maybe Chase’s injury history and all the utility guys in camp and in the minors just shoved him out. Morel has injury issues, too, though.

  37. JAL says:

    Oklahoma was the musical that changed musicals. Th first to use songs to advance the story

  38. Jim S. says:

    “I sucked because I sucked …. But, I did have an oblique strain. So, please take that into account.”

    Well, which is it?

  39. Jim S. says:

    Was it the 100 point game in Hershey, 21?

  40. Thundercrack says:

    They didn’t criticize the move because he stunk.


  41. Jim S. says:

    Syracuse barely avoided their 3rd straight loss last night. Their luck has run out.

  42. 21sthebest says:

    I don’t know. Seems pretty straightforward. The way I understand it:

    – Runner can’t stray from the path to the plate and can’t use upper body to jar the body loose.

    – Catcher can’t block the plate without the ball unless the throw is up the line.

  43. Jim S. says:

    Morel has some serious plate discipline issues, too.

  44. NMR says:

    Davis would be a bigger reclamation project than Volquez this season.

    Imagine the blog in June if Davis did not have a massive bounce back over the first three months. A chronically injurred, rapidly declining first baseman who spent a large part of the previous season in AAA was our 1B upgrade?

  45. Jim S. says:

    I was thinking foul play was to blame.

  46. 21sthebest says:

    What a dumb comment by Pierznyski. I’d like to ask him who exactly is getting a concussion on sliding plays into second base.

  47. Jandy says:

    It’s clear but it happens so fast, every one will have to be instant replay.

  48. Jim S. says:

    I think there are going to be a lot of issues that need to be decided in a very short space/amount of time.

    One is runners take a different path scoring from 2nd on a single than they do on a sac fly when they are on 3rd.

    I think all 3 (umps, baserunners, catchers) will all struggle with this rule. But, Mike Matheny wanted it, so …

    I foresee the games being slowed down just like the NFL. Baseball games do not need to have more delays.

  49. Jim S. says:

    Justin Morneau got one that way, I think. But, I get your point. Pierzynski is a meat head.

  50. NMR says:

    Haha, and then I’m going to get mad at the reporter who reported my exact quote.

  51. NMR says:

    Probably just figured the chances of another team taking a shot at a big lefty arm were greater than an oft-injured marginal shortstop who can’t get on base.

  52. Jim S. says:

    I’m with NMR on Davis. I guess there is a chance that things finally click and he becomes a consistent enough hitter. But, I believe the odds are a lot greater that he just stays a strikeout machine who hits some bombs. I’m not convinced he’d be better than Lambo, and would cost a pretty decent player or two, most likely.

  53. How did he avoid HIV? Just a question, not a societal statement.

  54. 21sthebest says:

    Jim, I don’t understand your different path comment exactly or why it matters. The path to the plate is the path to the plate (sorry!) regardless of where the runner is coming from. If on a sac fly, it’s obviously a straighter line. If scoring from a single from second, the ump can still tell easily enough, IMO, if a runner is taking a direct path to the plate with consideration to how they rounded third.

    Although I don’t like the use of instant replay at all, there’s so few of these plays at the plate that I don’t see much time being added.

  55. Jim S. says:

    Are you blaming it on your theatrical background, Osh?

  56. 21sthebest says:

    Wow he did!

  57. 21sthebest says:

    I’m not going to pretend to know much about HIV but maybe he was active before the virus became very active in the U.S.

  58. Arriba Wilver says:


  59. 21sthebest says:

    I agree too but his numbers after he came back from AAA were pretty darn good.

  60. Jim S. says:

    I don’t think either of them would be much of a loss, as I don’t see either being a huge contributor. But, Oliver needs to fix one thing – control. It’s a big thing, but not impossible. If they can get him somewhat straightened out, suddenly they have another LHP who throws hard and strikes out more than a batter an inning. That’s valuable.

    Chase doesn’t do anything particularly well but steal 2nd base after he gets to 1st base 28% of the time.

  61. 21sthebest says:

    Ditto John. I was Ali Hakim. 1981.

    And I went to the prom. Want to see my photo?

  62. Jim S. says:

    That is true, 26.2. But, he went down to AAA at .161. Ugh!

  63. Milo Hamilton says:

    Don’t forget that he’s a butcher at shortstop also. Did we cover everything there ?

  64. Good points, all of them above.

  65. NMR says:

    I’m not sold on one month of performance (he sucked in July after being promoted), but you do make a very pertinent point. Davis has by far the most upside, as can be seen from his performance in spurts.

  66. Jim S. says:

    I just think it is too much for the ump to stay on top of easily. He has to watch the ball, watch the plate, watch for a tag, and now determine whether the runner and catcher both acted legally.

    What I meant by the two different paths is I think that just makes it more complex for the ump. Harder to tell if the player is straying from his path, which is illegal.

    Maybe this is the solution. Maybe they will tweak it and make it work. I just think they are trying to thread the needle of not taking collisions away, while trying to make it completely safe. I don’t think it will be easy to implement.

  67. Arriba Wilver says:

    He seemed to have improved that last year in the minors. In 100 some appearances he had a .266 BA and .349 OBP.

  68. Jim S. says:

    To be more exact, maybe he stopped being active before the virus became an issue.

    I believe someone ran the #’s, and 20,000 was a “stretch” for Stretch. He was padding his stats, I believe.

  69. One-word summary.


  70. Arriba Wilver says:

    Please, no.

  71. Arriba Wilver says:

    Still looks like a pretty good WAR.

  72. 21sthebest says:

    Even though his OPS in July was meh at .736, his OBP was .382. That’s not a sucking July to me.

  73. JohninOshkosh says:

    Love to, if you are brave enough to post it!

  74. Jim S. says:

    I bet your tux was baby blue.

  75. 21sthebest says:

    You’re lucky he said please.

  76. mcpitt88 says:

    Do you know if it will be on

  77. Jim S. says:

    I believe he has a good glove at 3b. So, there’s that.

    But, there’s no way around it. Pedro is still not allowed to get hurt. Fortunately, he has been durable.

    For all of the Bucs improvements organizationally, they are still woefully underperforming in developing SS and 3b. Those are hard positions to find on the open market – especially on their budget.

  78. Jandy says:

    :covering my eyes:

  79. Jim S. says:

    What would you say is the most performed musical in US high school history? Oklahoma? The Music Man? They would be my top 2 guesses.

  80. Jim S. says:

    His Ultimate Zone Rating was through the roof, from what I gather.

  81. 21sthebest says:

    Baby blue is my least favorite color of all time.

  82. Thundercrack says:

    Last night when you posted about Chase being DFA’d. Did you mean the move stinks or the player stinks?

  83. Jim S. says:

    Did we mention that he’s envious of his brother at this point?

  84. Jim S. says:

    But, surely the tux was in the pastel family?

  85. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, and it was very nasty. I think he was out for about a full year.

  86. JohninOshkosh says:

    I had blonde, curly hair, could carry a tune a bit and played a musical instrument. I also went to a high school that had a substantial matriculation of African-Americans (a rarity in Iowa). So, naturally the band director wanted me to play Curly. Ended up playing the simpleton, Will Parker. (Channeled that role better than Gene Nelson, I must say!).

    My high school girlfriend my senior year was an African-American punk rock girl, whom my parents adored. Going to the prom was much too bourgeois for her and me. But, she dumped me before prom anyway and I spent prom night like the guys outside the convenient store in “Say Anything.” “Bitches, man!”

    Was back home about 10 years ago. Ran into her. She’s a college professor, happily married with kids. Funny how life goes. She was with her brother who always used Malcolm X’ s famous line and called me the “White Devil.” We had a good laugh about that.

  87. Jim S. says:

    Has anyone heard a timetable for Martin’s injury yet?

  88. Jim S. says:

    Now, that’s a story.

  89. 21sthebest says:


    Our Curly was African American and Laurey was white. It got a bit of press in 1981.

  90. The Gunner says:

    Looks like Chase d’Arnaud will become more of a non-factor than he has been, kinda in the mold of Brian Bixler (who signed a minor league deal with the Phillies on 2/4/2014).

    About the most positive comment I ever heard about Chase was from Mrs. Gunner when she mentioned he resembled a young George Clooney.

  91. 21sthebest says:

    I have two older sisters. In other words, I grew up with 3 Moms. They would never let me leave the house until I was appropriately coordinated. And they have good taste.

  92. The original timetable (from Sochi) was the remainder of the season, with expectations he would be available for the playoffs. I haven’t heard if he’s been evaluated locally yet.

  93. Brandie says:

    That makes me smile. I married a White Devil. My mom predicted I would. “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner?”

  94. Jim S. says:

    I didn’t know it was that bad. Sucks.

  95. Jim S. says:

    But, it was the 80’s, right? I seem to recall all of the prom tuxes being bad back then.

  96. Nate83 says:

    I heard he is out for one month but it was hardly official. It came from ESPN which isn’t exactly the leading resource for breaking or accurate NHL news.

  97. 21sthebest says:

    Yeah. Tuxes, shorts and tube socks. Real bad in the 80’s.

  98. Milo Hamilton says:

    Player stinks.

  99. Arriba Wilver says:

    Great story, Osh. Except for the curls, when you said outside the convenience store I was picturing you as Jay or Silent Bob.

  100. NMR says:

    I won’t argue with the production, but it did mask the fact that he strick out in 24% of his at bats and popped up in another 20% of them. That certainly does suck.

  101. 21sthebest says:

    Great movie.

  102. Brandie says:

    Yeah. What we take as common place now was quite shocking then. We have come a long way baby.

  103. Just as he was rounding into form too….

  104. JohninOshkosh says:

    Gotta be close to the top 2, I would think.

  105. JohninOshkosh says:

    Those were my college years, AW. :)

  106. Sarah says:

    Love it!

  107. Sarah says:

    I thought I heard 3 weeks? Fingers crossed!!!

  108. Milo Hamilton says:

    We throw the word genius around too much. But Harold Ramis was a genius. RIP.

  109. Brandie says:

    Funny, funny man. Enjoyed anything he put his stamp on.

  110. Arriba Wilver says:

    Hilarious, Osh.

  111. Arriba Wilver says:


  112. JohninOshkosh says:


  113. Sarah says:

    RIP Egon Spengler.

  114. Sarah says:

    Re Vokoun.
    Reading some interesting comments that MAF should now be the “nominal backup” while we get TV ready for playoffs!

    Hilarious….life on another planet!!!

  115. Milo Hamilton says:

    Vokoun, dripping with cap issues.

  116. I think with tanger and PM being out they’ll have some room to work with.

  117. Jim S. says:

    As was said yesterday, the old SCTV stuff was great. Tons of talent came out of that group (Catherine O’Hara, John Candy, Joe Flaherty, Dave Thomas, Harold Ramis, Eugene Levy, Andrea Martin, etc.).

  118. Sarah says:

    Yeah….well there is certainly the anti-MAF contingent that wants nothing to do with him! Certainly understand that.
    But the team re-affirmed MAF (just as they re-affirmed Disco)
    So I guess we see where it takes us!!!

    I would be interested to discuss “how short” the MAF-Leash is though!!
    I’m thinking “SHORT” LOL!

  119. And i haven’t confirmed this elsewhere but someone in the know told me that per current CBA we’ve accumulated a ton of additional cap space just from so many players being on IR. Was told the salary those players earned while on IR dont count against the cap so we may have more room to work with than meets the eye, even with TV back.

    But would be helpful if dejan or someone wants to confirm this.

  120. I plan on going into this post season with a clean slate for MAF. Defensive structure is better this season and here’s hoping the disco stretch keeps collecting dust.

  121. Jim S. says:

    And Rick Moranis.

  122. Arriba Wilver says:

    And I think David Steinberg got them started from Second City.

  123. Jim S. says:

    I don’t think they have a choice at this point. Vokoun’s injury opened the door for MAF to reassert himself as the main guy. Now, MAF has definitely seized the top spot again.

    I have to give MAF a ton of credit, because I was pretty vocal last year that it would be next to impossible for him to resurrect his career in this city.

  124. Jandy says:

    Behind that pretty smile, there IS a strong guy…

  125. Jandy says:

    This Depres’ chance to prove himself….again….bettors?

  126. Milo Hamilton says:

    Right now they have $1,195,000 in available deadline space.

  127. Jim S. says:

    Thank you, Jandy! Oh, wait … you meant MAF.

  128. Jim S. says:

    I was thinking I initially heard a month also, Nate.

    But, I never really heard exactly the nature of the injury. I just heard it was his hand.

  129. Jandy says:

    Awww jim, your smile is adorable too, my friend! =D

  130. Milo Hamilton says:

    Or improve his trade value.

  131. Jim S. says:

    Thanks! :-)

  132. Milo Hamilton says:

    2 scoreless for Stormy with 3 strikeouts. He’ll start against AJ on Sunday.

  133. Jandy says:

    There’s always that possibility. But right now I’m thinking we need him!

  134. Jandy says:

    Go Pimento!

  135. Not sure that’s totally accurate but I could be wrong. Don’t think that factors in IR salary from players that are back. If I was told correct info I would imagine that we have closer to 3-4M in cap space. But I could be wrong.

  136. Jandy says:

    I tend to think it’s higher with the guys on IR. But I’m not “up” on cap stuff

  137. At 1st glance looks like capgeek hasn’t factored in PM and tanger on IR yet.

  138. Despres will be solid. You see team record with him playing? Only DJ had better winning %. :)

  139. Jandy says:

    Prolly so

  140. Jandy says:

    I LIKE Depres. I hope he proves himself this time.

  141. Jandy says:

    I love it!!!!!

  142. Sarah says:

    We’ve ALWAYS needed him.
    Some people think ENgelland is better apparently.
    Don’t get me started.

  143. Sarah says:

    OMG you guys are hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!

  144. Sarah says:

    I think MAF had really responded well (unlike last year where he basically told them to F-off when they asked him to get help in the off-season).

    So personally I hope they give him a pretty good chance.

    However – the fact that TV is back and healthy, I think will contirbute to him possibly imploding. He’s always done worse when there is a legit backup.

    Hope that’s not the case this year.

    But as we’ve been saying since like, last June, we won’t know til PLAYOFFS…..

  145. theplanisworking says:

    If it brings the same results the Steelers had the past 2 years, I don’t want him to wear it…………… ;)

  146. Damon says:

    His tribute to Barry Foster I suppose. It’s growing on me the more I look at it…

  147. Sarah says:

    Yeah I think tha Tanger thing is huge…..if he cannot come back this season….does that not open a much better opp to get additional players with minimal giving away of drafts/propects???

  148. theplanisworking says:

    To Jim, who said above about MAF and resurrecting his career here…….

    I too doubted MAF could do it, and advocated his trading out of here. He has done all the right things so far………… but keep in mind it isn’t the post-season yet. he needs all that psychological training to pay off in spades starting the middle of April and beyond.

    He especially needs to be on his game against the Broons.

  149. Jandy says:

    You don’t need a catalyst ;)

    Go Sarah Go!


  150. Jandy says:

    Lids don’t cause losses, players and coaches do ;)

  151. Jandy says:

    he also needs the right play in front of him during the playoffs. it’s called support from your team mates :)

  152. Per Seth Rorabaugh (Twitter): Paul Martin out 4-6 weeks.

    With any luck, he’ll be back in time to play a few games before the playoffs.

  153. theplanisworking says:

    Well, duh!

    But there has been many instances where the D in front of him was good, and he still melted down faster than an ice cube in you know where…….

  154. With Paul Martin confirmed out 4-6 weeks and Kris Letang a question mark, I think acquiring a top-tier defenseman just became priority one.

  155. Jandy says:

    I’m crossing my fingers!

  156. Jandy says: the Lunatic’s barn with the pitchforks and the torches>???

  157. Jim S. says:


    He has good playoff history, and he has really bad recent playoff history. He needs to get back to what he was.

  158. Jim S. says:

    The kid has an arm, no doubt.

    I gotta believe Pimentel goes north with the big club. No more options. Someone needs to get traded. Or, maybe 2 RHP someones. Jeanmar? Vin Man? Morris?

  159. theplanisworking says:

    I like olives !!! ;)

  160. It’s now or never for MAF, in my opinion. Vokoun’s injury gave him a chance to comfortably re-establish himself as the number one starter this season. Vokoun may see a few starts prior to the post-season, but it’s been a year since he’s seen any game rubber. As it stands, it’s MAF or bust.

    If he does bust, there’s an awful lot of goaltending talent available on the market come July…

  161. Jim S. says:

    If it is possible to actually be VOCAL on a keyboard, that is. :-)

  162. Jim S. says:

    I believe he was a Canadian also.

  163. Jim S. says:

    And, Joe Flaherty is a yinzer, right?

  164. I’d have to see what the options are but i think i’d lean towards fixing bottom 6 and finding a top 6 winger before trading for a dman. Boyes and goc are still intriguing to me and while i’m at it i’d ask FLA about JovoCop.

  165. Jim S. says:


  166. Jim S. says:

    I thought Pedro’s hat cost the team wins before he started hitting all these HRs.

  167. JohninOshkosh says:

    MLB Network showing Pirates vs Yankees 02/27 @9:00 PM (Rebroadcast). Scanning the guide, that looks like first Pirates broadcast on that network. Probably a YES telecast.

  168. theplanisworking says:

    + infinity !

  169. Damon says:

    Just heard Beau Bennett has had a setback, and he’ll be another 3-4 weeks off. Ugh….

  170. Jandy says:

    He’s been injury prone since I can remember…

  171. Jandy says:

    Thanks for the info, Oshie!

  172. theplanisworking says:

    This team is snakebitten with the injuries this year……..

  173. Jim S. says:

    I’ll take Who is Sidney Poitier for $200, Alex.

  174. 21sthebest says:

    Definitely. Then he moved to Chicago.

  175. Jandy says:

    The same as the last 2 seasons…

  176. Jandy says:

    So now he’s a windy yinzer???

  177. He pulled a hammie lacing up his skates.

  178. Arriba Wilver says:

    I didn’t know that, but I checked and you are correct. Cool. I really liked him as the Dad in Freeks and Geeks. Usually has small parts. In checking, he is 73. Dang, I’m getting old!

  179. 21sthebest says:

    Who Jandy? Joe or Jim? I guess both.

  180. Damon says:

    Tweets by Yohe:

    Paul Martin is out 4-6 weeks

    Shero on bringing in top winger to play with Sid before deadline: “It’s probably far-fetched.” Mentioned cap and lack of sellers as problems

    Shero says he will leave cap room open if Letang can play this season.

  181. As I mentioned above, I think this may be MAF’s last chance in Pittsburgh to prove he can perform in the post-season. If he falters, he may have to go down with the ship: at this point TV is incapable of taking over. If the Penguins post-season run falls short of expectations this time I suspect we’ll see quite a few changes… starting with MAF.

  182. Replacing his win total for 5M cap hit wont be easy.

  183. Jandy says:

    Haha, 21! Joe.
    Jim has a cute smile :)

  184. Jandy says:

    Aren’t we all?????????????

  185. Arriba Wilver says:

    Oh, and Steinberg is a Winnipeg native. I saw a documentary on him recently and he said his parents were Russian Jews who emigrated to Canada. And he said when they got to Canada the people in charge said “so, where can we put them that’s even more hellish than where they came from? So they decided on Winnipeg.”

    Sorry, DK.

  186. Damon says:

    Given what’s been said above, I’d be OK with getting #24 and #25 on this list and go the cheaper route (should make Mr. Monster happy on #24):

  187. I guess disco had a press conference…anyone know if he was asked about not playing Kessel-pavelski-kane???

    Blaming him for canada loss is silly, even if they could’ve been a little more creative but not combining your best sniper with your best playmaker and best goal scoring center will baffle me endlessly.

  188. 21sthebest says:

    Same here AW. My grandparents were Russian Jews except that apparently the U.S. equivalent of Winnipeg is Johnstown.

  189. Baywatch says:

    Hey, Milo! Yee-Ha!

  190. That link just shows 1st couple unless you’re a member. Who did they mention?

  191. The Penguins will probably have to spend a little more, but no one cares about who wins the President’s Trophy. If MAF can’t carry this team past the first round of the playoffs, it’s time to move on.

  192. 21sthebest says:

    Pirates are winning 4-0. Tony Sanchez hit a 3 run homer to the opposite field.

  193. 21sthebest says:

    I tried to listen but he puts me to sleep.

  194. Jandy says:

    Yee=haw :)

  195. Jandy says:

    A very good argument, RF

  196. Jim S. says:

    Are they also losing by a similar score?

  197. Baywatch says:

    Tim Williams tweeted that Tony also hit an opposite field double. The game is afoot!

  198. theplanisworking says:

    If they are, Jim, I will give you a free torch. ;)

  199. Jim S. says:

    He was great in Happy Gilmore.

  200. Jim S. says:

    Freaks and Geeks was very underrated, AW.

  201. Jim S. says:

    Jim facts:

    1) Windy City yinzer – correct.
    2) Cute Smile – my wife thinks so. Of course, she’s not here to defend herself.

  202. Jandy says:

    Your wife is smarter than you look, jim ;)

  203. Milo Hamilton says:

    For anyone thinking coaching isn’t an issue with Pitt’s collapse, I give you this quote from Jamie Dixon.

    “Impatience is a big part of our issue offensively right now, something we’ve been stressing and talking about.”

    I had been wondering if they’d tuned him out. Apparently not. Oh my.

  204. Jandy says:

    Oh Yours!

  205. Jim S. says:

    Wind blowing out to RF a tad?

  206. Damon says:

    Sorry – #24 is Boyes, and #25 is Ruutu. Here is what they said:

    24. Brad Boyes, F, Panthers

    Only T.J. Oshie, Logan Couture and Jonathan Toews have more shootout goals than Boyes, currently at six. That’s not a skill particularly useful in the playoffs, but for a team like the Devils, who can’t buy a shootout win, adding a player like Boyes could be the difference between making the playoffs and missing them. He’s useful at even strength as well. When he’s on the ice, 51.9 percent of the shot attempts are on the opposing goalie (per His 15 goals so far this season are the most he’s scored since finishing the 2008-09 season with 33.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A third-round pick.

    25. Tuomo Ruutu, F, Hurricanes

    His game is just now rounding into form as he recovers from hip surgery, but the Olympics were a good showcase for Ruutu, whose strong play helped Finland win the bronze. He’s a physical player who can also score and play up and down the lineup. He’s also expensive ($4.75 million through 2015-16) with a no-move clause. That’s not an easy contract to move. Carolina needs a team that knows him well to take that risk, like Columbus, where Team Finland assistant GM Jarmo Kekalainen runs the show, assisted by Ruutu’s former agent, Bill Zito. His current agent, Markus Lehto, politely declined to get into whether or not he’d be willing to waive his no-move clause but confirmed that Ruutu’s health is on the rise. “He had a great Olympics. He played real well,” Lehto said. “He’s getting better and better. Day by day.”

    Provenzano’s price tag: If Carolina retains salary, he’s worth a second-round pick or B-level prospect.

  207. Jandy says:

    Monster mash likes Boyes.

  208. Thanks damon. Not enamored with ruutu but i see boyes being good with sid at minimal expense. Goc and JovoCop can be real helpful too.

  209. Baywatch says:

    Dunno. But I’m thinking in the brief window he had last year, he showed some ability to go with a pitch into our right field gap. In a way, nothing would please me more than seeing him come on strong enough to win the backup job this spring.

  210. Jim S. says:

    He did, Bay. I think they have pointed to that, in fact, as one of the big reasons Sanchez hit so well in AAA last year. And, as I recall, his first MLB hit was ripped off the RC wall in, I think, Anaheim. The ball actually stuck in the wall.

    I don’t think we will see him make the big club this year from the start, but I don’t think that is a bad sign. They are probably 99.99% sure Martin is gone after this year, and they want to get Sanchez a full season of ABs and time behind the plate to get him ready to be the starter next year. But, if Martin gets injured for an extended period, I think Stewart would remain the back-up in Pittsburgh and Sanchez would probably come up from Indy and start.

  211. Jandy says:

    Jovocop lol

  212. Jandy says:



  213. Milo Hamilton says:

    They should take some of that money they’re not spending on anything and extend Martin. But alas, that will never happen.

  214. Jandy says:

    dayum, that did come out wrong, didn’t it?? LOL!

  215. Milo Hamilton says:

    Oh, Hey Bay !

  216. Damon says:

    Ruutu looked awesome for Finland, and as the comment says his health is finally coming along. Key to that is Carolina eating some of that salary. Ruutu would look great on Sutter’s wing – not only being rough and tough to play against, but he can score too. Boyes would be cheap, and probably would have more impact than Gibbons on Sid’s wing. Goc is a good player, but seeing what these teams are asking for in this article, he may cost too much – or more than Shero is apparently willing to pay (1st or 2nd pick?).

  217. Oh ok…and i was gonna give you credit for bustin my chops…apology accepted :) :) :)

  218. Jim S. says:

    He’s also relieved you did not forget the “e” in Boyes. :-)

  219. Jandy says:

    I didn’t realize what I typed until you said to bite you LOL!

    I swear, sometimes I’m good when I don’t even know it ;)

  220. Jandy says:

    LOL Jim, I kill me!

  221. Jim S. says:

    and beyond!

  222. Damon says:

    Ha – I just caught that!

  223. Ya 3rd rounder for boyes seems more than fair but you’re right bout market being tight. As is i dont like the squad for a cup though…just sayin.

  224. Baywatch says:

    ++ (I’m givin’ you them PLUSES ’cause I said “Hey, Milo” back up yonder!)

  225. There’s a putin joke here somewhere but not sure i wanna go that route…

  226. Pretty soon i’ll be as funny as brandicita :)

  227. Jandy says:

    Oh my! Good idea, not to ;)

  228. Arriba Wilver says:


  229. theplanisworking says:


  230. Arriba Wilver says:

    21—There ya go on Johnstown. Proof.

    Jim– totally agree on Freaks and Geeks.

  231. Damon says:

    Here’s some more players from that top 25 trade targets article that I’ve seen mentioned on the blog in the past:

    6. Dustin Byfuglien, D, Winnipeg Jets

    Despite their surge under Paul Maurice, there’s still the possibility GM Kevin Cheveldayoff makes a significant move at the deadline beyond trading his potential UFAs. Part of the appeal of bringing Maurice into the fold was having an outside voice evaluate the talent, and Maurice has had a chance to get a feel for the Jets’ players. Byfuglien is a handful at forward but prefers to play on defense and could have appeal to a team like the Bruins looking to add more offense from the blue line. One executive said he’d be slightly leery adding Byfuglien unless the team making the trade has a veteran group with strong leadership. We’ve seen the impact Byfuglien can have on a playoff race and there aren’t many defensemen around who can produce offensively at his level. Only Erik Karlsson and Shea Weber have more goals among NHL defensemen. That’s it.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A midlevel roster player plus an A-level prospect.

    7. Matt Moulson, F, Sabres

    Moulson is a guy you can pencil in for 30 goals every season, but his goal-scoring production has dropped in the move away from John Tavares to Buffalo. Last season, he averaged 0.32 goals per game. That number is down to 0.23 goals in his first 40 games with the Sabres. He’s only shooting 9.3 percent with the Sabres, so that also helps explain the lack of goal scoring. Surround him with better players and his production will increase.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A first-round pick and a roster player or B-level prospect.

    8. Chris Stewart, F, St. Louis Blues

    If GM Doug Armstrong is going to be aggressive at the trade deadline, he’s going to need more salary cap flexibility than he currently has. Moving Stewart makes sense, especially since there’s appetite among his fellow GMs to add a player with some term (and in this case, not too much). Stewart has one year remaining on a contract that comes with a $4.15 million cap hit. It’s not a bad number for a guy capable of scoring 25 to 30 goals, but it’s a lot to pay a guy playing only 14:39 per night for Ken Hitchcock in St. Louis.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A roster player for a roster player.

    11. Sam Gagner, F, Edmonton Oilers

    There was speculation that a Gagner deal to the Kings was just waiting for the Olympic trade ban to be lifted, but that still hasn’t materialized. Gagner is small and skilled, attributes in which there’s no shortage in Edmonton. He’s also signed through 2015-16 at $4.8 million, which might sound like a lot, but if he hit the market this summer as an unrestricted with the cap rising, a 24-year-old center closing in on 300 career points would earn at least that much. A team like the Kings is a perfect fit since they already have size and would benefit from Gagner’s skill.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A second-round pick plus a midlevel roster player.

    15. Ales Hemsky, F, Oilers

    There’s no shortage of wingers who can provide offense, but few come with Hemsky’s high-end skill. For the right price, a short-term bet on Hemsky could come with a big payoff. One executive said he’d be lukewarm to the idea of trading for Hemsky, but understood the attraction, saying, “If somebody needs skill for five weeks …” The Devils could use offense, and Hemsky would be a nice fit in New Jersey.

    Provenzano’s price tag: A second-round pick and a B-level prospect, plus the Oilers might have to take salary back.

  232. Bring me chris stewart!!! But not the catcher Jim :)

  233. That quote from disco post boston series or from dixon?

  234. Dom says:

    Howdy Y’all.

    I was reading the news and saw that golfer Steve Elkington made a derogatory comment about Michael Sam on Twitter.

    I went to Elkington’s Wikipedia page and it starts off by saying the following, “Stephen John Elkington (born 8 December 1962) is a homophobic Australian professional golfer who plays on the PGA Tour.”

  235. Sarah says:

    Good Lord what a POTATO CHIP

  236. Sarah says:

    What struck me most was the reports of DB losing the team. Hard to do that fast. Reports that he was just “into himself”. Dunno.

  237. Hmmm…reports? Where from?

  238. Umm…sarah…you know i was kidding right? :)

  239. Sarah says:

    I will look em up…..or you can google ‘blame bylsma’

  240. theplanisworking says:

    Need a torch, Sarah?? ;)

  241. Well i was responding to the part about disco being “into himself” and losing his team. The blame stuff is over blown IMO.

  242. theplanisworking says:

    Sometimes kids do show us the way in terms of sportsmanship…..

  243. 21sthebest says:

    Bucs win 4-3 to go to 1-0!

    Hurdle drops to 0-1.

  244. BillyBaduka says:

    “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?” also a great tune by Black Uhuru:

    Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?…

    Natty Dreadlocks

    Love the old Poitier, Tracey and Hepburn film too.

  245. tpbco says:

    FWIW, Beau Bennett did break his wrist his last season at Denver U. and missed the majority of the season. I have not been able to find out if this injury is on the same side. If so, and given that there’s a reported “set back”, I would not be surprised if he’s out for the rest of the season, with a worse case senario of retirement.

    Wrists (along with ankles) are incredibly complex joints and injuries sometimes never heal 100%. Tough injury for a hockey player-a projected scorer no less-to come back from. This is NOT an injury due to him being “fragile”. Jason Worlids career was set back for over a year due to a wrist injury, hence the Steeler’s conundrum.

    Hope it’s not the case, he seems like a good and talented kid.

  246. Dom says:

    How is THAT possible?!?

  247. Sarah says:

    Nah. Discos here to stay I think, Plan.

  248. Sarah says:

    Retirement ???? Is that your take or in the report?

  249. I’ll pass on Jovanovski, thanks: he’s 37, he’s only had 17 games under his belt since returning from hip surgery last April, and he’s got one more year at $4M+. Too much risk for too little reward if you ask me.

    I still think the Pens need to concentrate on a top-four defenseman, or as close as they can get to one. Niskanen, Orpik, and Scuderi are the only healthy veterans in the lineup right now. Given the injury history of Orpik and Scuderi, I wouldn’t risk going into battle without another vet capable of logging decent minutes.

  250. theplanisworking says:

    You just don’t want to pay my exorbitant price, do you? ;)

  251. Jim S. says:

    Tomlin’s fault.

    Chryst’s fault.

    Bylsma’s fault.

    Dixon’s fault.

    San Andreas fault.

    Hurdle’s in our cross hairs now.

  252. Bizrow says:

    Welcome, thanks for signing in

  253. theplanisworking says:

    Or DEE-fault. :)

  254. Jim S. says:

    Black & Gold game, I think, Dom.

  255. Jim S. says:

    Does he coach the River Hounds?

  256. tpbco says:

    My take…as I said, the worse case scenario, IF it is the same wrist. At DU, (I was living there at the time) it was reported to be bolted back together and he was out several months and was strength limited after that. Again, it was reported that it was one of the reasons he decided to turn pro when he did.

  257. theplanisworking says:

    No, thats DEE Kay. ;)

  258. Bizrow says:

    Per what I recently heard on the FAN, the injury is on the other wrist

  259. Jim S. says:

    Haha! Good suggestion.

  260. Sarah says:

    Apparently Johe saying Gibbons or Connor on 1st line for playoffs.
    If I’m Sid I ask for a trade.

    Hopefully it’s all bull, cos it’s Johe after all……but if RS stands pat, I think we could actually be there.

    Good grief.

  261. Following up on chat with sarah above regarding blame game and ‘reports':

    Im starting to feel a little guilty for nit picking problems in canada game. We tried to pressure as responsibly as possible but canada’s d was just too fast with too much reach and too much pedigree. There were some things I think i would’ve tried regarding breakouts in the 2nd and 3rd but for most part they were the better and deeper team.

    Now all i’m hearing and reading is how passive they were in the 1-2-2…there’s plenty i could say about those trying to get technical around the country but the canada game had nothing to do with boston series or any other playoff disappointment. Finland game was embarrassing but we have nothing to be ashamed about regarding canada game.

    And criticism i’m reading for orpiks selection is downright comical, especially from those in the nascar belt who think pucks are inflated. Apparently giving faulk the minutes orpik had would’ve yielded a gold medal. And on the Benn goal orpik was originally on getzlaf in the corner and when getzlaf bailed out Orpik went to cover benn who was callahan’s responsibility but it was too late. Callahan turned the wrong way off Benn allowing for separation which allowed him to beat callahan, orpik and an unaware carlson to the spot.

    Did i mention i would’ve tried kessel-pavelski-kane? :)

  262. Dom says:

    I have always been a fan of Tomlin, Chryst, Bylsma, and Dixon.

  263. tpbco says:

    Hope that’s the case. The recovery time frames are eerily similar and there were major concerns about him back then that I would assume the Pens were in tune with. Much more significant for a top 6 forward.

  264. Jim S. says:

    Wow! Get him some help, Shero!

    Of course, he probably is smart not to telegraph who he is targeting.

  265. Jim S. says:

    Or, PK, maybe?

  266. 21sthebest says:

    Unfortunately, the intrasquad consecutive years streak of not breaking .500 continues….

  267. Jim S. says:

    I was just being snarky, Dom. Fans just tend to need someone to blame when things don’t go well. Seems to happen in every sport with every group of fans, everywhere.

  268. tpbco says:

    AGREE. But almost guarantees GMRS will try to do something. We will have to deal with the cost, later.

  269. Agree he’s not ideal but that makes him cheap…which sounds like the theme for this deadline. Have seen trevor daley’s name popping up. He could be a nice depth addition.

  270. Jim S. says:

    A couple of decisions here and there is always the difference between winning and losing that game.

  271. theplanisworking says:


  272. Jim S. says:

    Bill Polian on NFL Network said Sams was really bad yesterday. He said it was questionable whether he would even get drafted on the 2nd day based on yesterday.

    He suggested that Sam should do what Manti Te’o did last year, and have an on-campus workout. Te’o had a similarly bad performance in Indy last year, and Polian says he thinks both guys buckled under the stress.

    He also said our own Aaron Donald was a beast.

  273. Jim S. says:

    Please send it to me. Unlit. That is all.

  274. 21sthebest says:

    I can’t help but wonder if home field advantage was the difference.

  275. Dom says:

    I read that too. His 40 time was slower than some DTs and managed just 17 reps in the bench press. He doesn’t seem strong enough to be a DE and too slow to be an OLB.

  276. Sarah says:

    Just heard Josh Yohe on the radio quoting Ray Shero.

    RS: “If people are expecting me to go out and get a winger for Sidney Crosby, it ain’t going to happen. There is no one out there we can afford.”

    If that’s true, Peeps, I think I’m done w RS, even more than I’m done w Disco.

    More to the point, the Pens are EFFed if we move forward as is into the playoffs.

    God I hope that’s all blather and misdirection from RS.

  277. So to be clear…you want shero to trade for a winger? :)

  278. tpbco says:

    Sure doesn’t sound like GMRS.

    But if it’s true, not too sure how one could blame him…it’s more a function of the incredible injury run and it’s impact on the salary cap, the disruption of the Olympics and that it appears to be a seller’s market.

    I would be interested in knowing what moves you would suggest.

  279. Sarah says:

    RW for Sid, LW for Malkin.
    Want Kulemin for Geno if poss, which might actually be possible.
    For Sid…..Oy….open to suggestions! Let’s just say NOT Glass/Adams/Gibbons/anyone on the roster except maybe Neal.

    Have said for awhile that teams key on Sid/Geno, double or even triple teaming, and DARE the Ws to make them pay, and except for Neal, it doesn’t happen. This is the book now I fear.

    Will be the same this playoffs.

  280. Sarah says:

    Completely disagree.
    We are pooched now BECAUSE of RSs decisions, primarily to keep Letang at a huge cap hit. Add in extending Adams, and Dupuis, and bringing in Scuderi whilst keeping Orpik (and Brooks willpower be extended in the Country Club Family)….and your options diminish.

    So…..Don’t disagree that NOW it’s hard to find solutions.

    Last year, it was a whole different situation, and RS blew it.

    Those would have been my starter moves.

  281. Jim S. says:

    ++, Sarah.

  282. Jim S. says:

    Possibly just outsmarted by the other Manager.

  283. Jim S. says:

    I have to say, I didn’t understand the timing of his big announcement so soon before the draft. From a strategic standpoint, I mean. It might have put so much added pressure on him that he just couldn’t perform. Who knows?

  284. Sarah says:

    Hey Monster, good stuff.
    Though you and I won’t agree on Orpik…..and on the Benn goal he was lost IMO. But whatever! He will be extended and given a retirement contract by Shero, I concede. I think that’s a wrong move, to go with many wrong Country Club moves.

    Re the CAN game, wow….I think it gets to a really grey area, that 1-2-2…..

    SO much depends on F2 and whether he is aggressive or passive…’s been awhile that I’ve been in a locker room or bench talking forechecks,….but that F2….. Does he move in or peel back?? It’s read and react….the coaches could say, “if it’s 50-50 in that puck battle behind the net, GO! Bet on our F1 winning the battle and getting you the puck as you pinch down the slot!”…..
    Or….”Hang BACK unless you see out F1 come out with CLEAR possession…..only THEN go!”

    My GUESS is a) early games the F2 was told to GO if it was 50-50 or better….and it almost ALWAYS was, cos we were playing weaker teams, winning the battles behind the net…so we see this wonderful aggressive forecheck…..F2 deep, cycling away…..BUT…..b) vs CAN, F2 may have been told to ONLY go on CLEAR possession by F1, which almost NEVER happened cos CAN was so dominant… we see F2 peeling back high and playing defensive almost every play…..and we scratch our head and say “why so passive?”
    ADD ON that general Fear of CAN made the F2 read incorrectly and back off a lot more often, and it’s even more of a passive mess….

    I just think it’s a lot more subtle than just saying they went to XYZ forecheck.

  285. theplanisworking says:

    Sure thing. The fuel will cost ya, however…… ;)

  286. JohninOshkosh says:

    Outstanding post, Damon.

  287. Thanks.

    In canada game i was seeing multiple forecheckers throughout the game, even in the 2nd and 3rd. Problem was the combo of big ice and canada’s skating ability to get to the puck with support from center or winger before our forecheck could knock them off the puck. Fact that F2 was only a few feet from F1 didn’t matter cuz dmen for canada had all the reach, speed and support they needed to chip or poke puck away from our forwards.

    Reason i was calling for line changes going into the 3rd was cuz we needed to acknowledge that scoring and creating off the cycle was going to be impossible for above reasons. Scoring off the rush however, was very possible. Hence the line changes i was hoping for.

    Re: Orpik

    Come on sarah, all those blocked shots and stick on puck situations…i saw him even bail out quick and carlson after that one turnover he had. Orpik was real good against canada and specifically against sid n kuni when he was out there. If you can go back n look at benn’s goal. Orpik was on getzlaf originally and callahan allowed for separation by circling the wrong way. Orpik could’ve reacted quicker but only became an issue with callahan losing benn.

  288. Baywatch says:

    Y’all keep it between the ditches: I’m off to work! I was saving my best for today IF Stolmy didn’t do so hot … “Oh Stolmy. Bring back that sunny day.” From The Classics IV! But he had a nice outing.

  289. Breakouts in the 3rd needed to be adjusted to assist in scoring off the rush as well. 1st period breakouts were smoother with better passing and speed thru neutral zone. But once canada moved the defensive box up to close the gap we had no answers…other than the disco stretch.

    Ok off to check my blood pressure…

  290. Have a good eve, babe watch, as Brandie would say.

  291. tpbco says:

    Fair enough.

    Not sure that it was RS alone who decided on Letang, but given his FA status, likely not gotten great return for him (I sure wouldn’t have complained, tho) only for him to then go and win a couple Norris’. THEN the 20-20 hindsighters would be roaring. I see Adams as not a big deal either way – not that much money, and I don’t know how you don’t extend Duper, given all the pheripherals. But that’s me.

    The Scuderi we have seen is not remotely the one that left, not sure how much of that is not only his injuries but all his partners as well. Don’t know if it’s a little or a lot and how much was the “Letang Experiment”.

    The Orpik situation is one that I agree is somewhat unique to the Pens. The business move likely was to move him last year. Now I agree, he prob will get that contract unless he gets crazy…but those type of moves, IMO, are coming from the very top. This is the kind of team and atmosphere that Mario wants. If it wasn’t…and after this season, depending on how it finishes, which looks less promising than a month ago, he may very well blow it up, which is kinda what your suggestions would have been.

    Thanks for your opinion.

  292. theplanisworking says:


  293. Just thought i’d add that judging the dmen with the team as is(meaning no bottom 6) is kinda hard. Ice tilted our way with much more regularity. Believe the fancy shmancy metrics for last 20 or so games would confirm that.

  294. BillyBaduka says:

    Joe Flarerty’s best role on SCTV was Guy “Don” Caballero

    4 guys from Pittsburgh formed a band in 90/91 with the name Don Caballero, from the skits.

    They actually became renowned in the indie circuit for their influence on instrumental rock. Often labeled “math rock”, a label that Don Cab and other “math rock” bands deplore.

    Only the drummer remains from the original outfit. Incredible drummer, often called “the octopus” because he seems to have extra limbs when he plays.

    “American Don”, last release before breakup and reforming is still my favorite album and still sounds ahead of it’s time over 10 years later.

    Excuse me and my ramblings, I’ve been a big fan since their first show at the Bloomfield Bridge Tavern.

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