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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Morning, Lunatics …

>> No Monday column this week because, oh, you know, those pesky Stanley Cup playoffs keep picking apart our schedule. I’ll be at Nationwide Arena this morning and tonight working toward a Tuesday column from Game 6.

In the interim, here again is the Sunday column from Game 5.

>> Antonio Brown lit up Ryan Clark in an exclusive interview with our Alan Robinson, and his remarks — plus Clark’s mostly peculiar comeback on Twitter — lit up social media.

All I’ll add is that, mostly independent of this little spat, the Steelers would benefit from Brown taking a real leadership role with the wide receivers in 2014. Jerricho Cotchery is gone. So is Emmanuel Sanders. Lance Moore will be a newcomer. The rest figure to be children. Brown’s one of those rare players Mike Tomlin goes out of his way to praise for work ethic, and it’s deserved. Speaking his mind could count just as much as setting the example.

Our NFL draft position-by-position preview gets underway this morning with a wonderful display in the print product:

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And it comes with a Robinson examination of the NFL’s growing impatience with young quarterbacks. I really enjoyed this piece.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Steelers page and our Steel Mill blog.

>> The Penguins’ defense is suddenly in clampdown mode, by Josh Yohe.

Evgeni Malkin as the new Pascal Dupuis? Rob Rossi takes a shift.

The Blue Jackets still sound confident, by Jason Mackey.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Penguins page, our Chipped Ice blog and our photo gallery.

Here’s Blue Jackets news from the team’s official site. You’ll find on there that the team is giving out white T-shirts to all fans for Game 6 tonight, which makes that promotional idea about as original as every other that’s stolen Winnipeg’s original White Out.

Honestly, people, there’s a color in your team name. Try that one.

>> This is hardly unexpected, but Ron Francis is about to become the Hurricanes’ GM, per the Raleigh News & Observer. There aren’t 10 better humans on the planet, let alone sports.

>> Edinson Volquez pitched a good bit better than his line, Rob Biertempfel reports from St. Louis, but it didn’t really matter because the bats fell flat again.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page, our Bucco Blog and our photo gallery.

Here’s Cardinals news from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Here’s Orioles news from the Baltimore Sun.

Here are official game highlights on

>> Pittsburgh’s unbreakable sports records? Columnist Joe Starkey takes inventory.

>> The Riverhounds didn’t score Saturday, but Justin Evans feels it might have been their best performance. Matt Grubba reports from Highmark Stadium. Ask me, and any zero put up by that leaky back line was going to be a welcome sight.

>> Here’s last night’s Subway Final Word that aired on WPXI-TV with Robinson, Travis Sawchik, Chris Adamski and Alby Oxenreiter.

>> I’ll check in with TribLIVE Radio at 11:30 a.m.

>> Thank you, as always, for reading.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Bizrow says:

    This is a good opportunity, football wise, for Derrick Moye to step up.

    Talked to my son a bit today, the Pens mess is keeping some heat of the PBC and their slow start.

    And the Pens are up 3-2, go figure ;-)

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  2. Tony says:

    I have Scottsdale, AZ covered.

  3. Eric Hovan says:

    I can’t believe that I am the first from Altoona

  4. JoeyBats says:

    BUCCOS — Down on the Farm
    (We’ll try to keep you apprised of how some of the top prospects are doing; …..this week the PITCHERS. Games played through April 27).
    P – Jeff Locke – Triple A – Indianapolis – Throws: L

    W- 0, L – 1, ERA 5.29…..G 3, IP 17, H 21, ER 10, K 16, BB 4, HR 4, BAA .296, WHIP 1.47
    P- Vin Mazzaro – Triple A – Indianapolis – Throws : R

    W- 1, L – 0, 1 Save…. ERA 0.00…..G 6, IP 10, H 3, ER 0, K 8, BB 3, HR 0, BAA .094, WHIP 0.58
    P – Nick Kingham – Double A – Altoona – Throws: R

    W- 1, L – 1, ERA 1.61…..G 4 IP 22, H 18, ER 4, K 19, BB 10, HR 0, BAA .220, WHIP 1.25
    P – Joely Rodriguez – Double A –Altoona – Throws : L

    W- 1, L – 2, ERA 5.12…..G 4, IP 19, H 24, ER 11, K 6, BB 6, HR 0, BAA .312, WHIP 1.55
    P – Tyler Glasnow – Single A – Bradenton – Throws R

    W- 0, L – 0, ERA 0.00…..G 1, IP 5, H 2, ER 0, K 6, BB 3, HR 0, BAA .125, WHIP 1.00
    P – Luis Heredia – Single A – West Virginia – Throws : R …..ON THE DL

    W- 0, L – 1, ERA 7.20…..G 2, IP 5, H 6, ER 4, K 3, BB 2, HR 0, BAA .286, WHIP 1.60

  5. Ghost says:

    Thanks. Good stuff.
    Those are a lot of earned runs and a mighty high BAA Jeff Locke is giving up. On the other hand, we’re lucky nobody snatched Mazzaro away. Looks like he’s bound to get called up again soon, if not for us, than for a team who will trade with us for him. And Nick Kingham is off to an encouraging start, too. Would love to see the Las Vegas kid make it all the way to PNC Park by the end of this year.

  6. Ghost says:

    The Bucs’ offense is undeniably feeble right now. Yet, we’ve scored the second most runs in our division. But we’ve allowed the most runs in the division. Whatever our “bats” end up doing over the course of the season, it is our pitching that will determine our fate.

  7. JAL says:

    JAL’s Down in the Boondocks Morning Links


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 BFFL’s 2014 Pirates Stats Spreadsheet

    4 Pirates Prospects

    Pittsburgh Pirates Organizational Probable Pitching Chart

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: It’s Hard For the Pirates to Win When These Five Players are Struggling

    Prospect Watch: Josh Bell Has a Big Day at the Plate

    Minor League Schedule: Kingham Takes Mound For Altoona Tonight

    6 Bucs Dugout

    Jhonny Peralta, Adam Wainwright dominate Pirates, 7-0

    7 Rumbunter

    Trying To Forget Those Sexy Pittsburgh Pirates

    Pirates GM Neal Huntington Show Recap

    8 Green Weenie

    Too Much Wainwright, Peralta; Pirates Dropped 7-0

    4/27: 23 Runs, Seven Straight, B-2-B B-2-B, Pops Owns April, Backman’s Six Hit Day, Matty Mo Goes, Brewer Hex Snapped and More…

    9 Saber Bucs

    No Shame in this Shutout

    The Luck of the Pirates Offense

    10 City of Champions

    Pittsburgh Pirates: Stopping running game becoming an issue once again

  8. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 CBS Sports

    Wainwright riddles Bucs, first in majors with five wins

    12 Chicago Sun Times

    Cubs’ Hammel improves to 4-1 by shutting down first-place Brewers

    13 KDKA

    Colin Dunlap: Polanco Needs To Be In Pittsburgh

    14 Pirates Site

    Volquez bested as Bucs offense stifled by Cards

    Martin back in high spirits after tests show good news

    15 USA Today

    Nightengale: Examining baseball’s April aberrations

    16 Cincinnati Enquirer

    Reds’ Bryan Price: ‘We’re not just going to take this’

    17 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

    Hammel dominates Brewers in shutout

    18 St. Louis Post Dispatch

    Wainwright perfectly in tune

    19 Fangraphs

    Sunday Notes: Marlins, Yankees, Killer vs King Kong

    20 Baseball Prospectus

    The Week In Quotes

  9. radio wave says:

    Good stuff again. Thanks

  10. JAL says:

    Steelers Blogs

    21 Behind the Steel Curtain

    Antonio Brown rips into ex-Steelers S Ryan Clark

    Antonio Brown shows he’s ready to take on leadership role


    22 Bloomberg Stats Insight

    Improved Sunderland’s survival chances boosted

    23 BBC Football

    Bryan Robson on Ryan Giggs, David Moyes & Man Utd’s future

    Chelsea dent Liverpool title hopes

    24 World Soccer

    Hillsborough article an insult to football fans


    25 Pensburgh

    Pens/Jackets Game 5 Recap: Pittsburgh comes up big

  11. Wild Bill says:

    Good riddance to the NL Central for a while. Lucky, the link 13 above should make you a happy man.

    A pleasure to see in print what I posted yesterday about Goc. Finish the job tonight, Pens! The next round awaits, and though we wish for the Rangers, we might want to be careful what we wish for. They’re playing well.

  12. That is a good view, Bill.

  13. Marc Cahalan says:

    Brentwood TN

  14. bpn8pitt says:

    Starting to think Sidney Crosby is gonna bust out big time and have a Pedro-like monster week or so.

    Put these Columbus bums away, fellas.

  15. DJ says:

    Has the “Don’t-even-think-about-Polanco-let-alone-talk-about-him” moratorium been lifted?

    I’ve predicted May 10th. Still a few rancid performances short of the tipping point.

  16. Jandy says:


  17. Dom says:

    Josh Bell’s the man.

  18. 5 RBI yesterday with an HR. Hitting .289 with a small sample size at High A.

  19. Dom says:

    Flyers need to win two straight to advance. Will they do it?

  20. Jandy says:

    if it were me, I’d say it anyway, but then, I’m a pot stirrer ;)

  21. Jandy says:

    We can hope not lol

  22. Jandy says:

    back log at work today, busy day for me…I’ll check in when I can.

    have fun Loonies :)

  23. NMR says:

    At least a little bit odd to see two AAA relievers recalled NOT named Mazzaro.

  24. Let’s hope that the Pens will wrap it up tonight. Then we can hope they won’t have to face the Flyers. Anyhow, I just heard that Brooks Orpik might be out with an injury, and so he’ll be replaced with Rod Scuderi.

  25. Nate83 says:

    Pedro needs a Pedro-like monster week.

  26. NMR says:

    Ha, thinking the same.

  27. Jason81 says:

    Mazzaro would need to be put back on the 40-man roster to be called up.

  28. Thundercrack says:

    I think Hughes is throwing the ball good now – and he can go more than one inning.

    Mazzaro is out of options, so I would guess that if they brought him up it would be for the long-term because they can’t send him back down without waivers

  29. NMR says:

    Thanks, Jason. Good point.

  30. Wild Bill says:

    I’m on to you, James.

  31. uncledread says:

    Greetings from the tiny town of Hoosick Falls, NY.

  32. Jason81 says:

    I hoping Dan Carcillo scores the game-winner in OT tonight so the city of Filthadelphia can set a Guinness World Record for most middle fingers seen on national television. :D

  33. AL says:

    Actually I hope they do. We have a score to settle. Assuming, of course, we advance too.

  34. Jason81 says:

    *Tomorrow, not tonight.

  35. NMR says:

    Another good point. Gotta think Jeanmar is the first to go, but probably isn’t gonna kill them to wait a minute considering he hasn’t pitched many – if any – meaningful innings so far.

  36. The Gunner says:

    HIDDEN VIGORISH is bound to happen for the Pedro and the rest of the Buccos sooner or later. Let’s hope it is not too late

  37. AJS says:

    I hope Josh comes along well. I hated to see the kid skip college and then tear his ACL so early in his career. It seems like it has taken hi a while to regroup from that. Hopefully this is the start of something big.

  38. Dom says:

    The only problem is, we almost won’t settle the score. Aren’t the Flyers like 9-1 at Consol? It’s hard to imagine we can turn that around in a seven game series.

  39. bpn8pitt says:

    I doubt thats the last time someone on the Steelers tells Ryan Clark to shut his mouth or something to that effect.

    The Eagles, Cowboys and Giants WR should be licking their chops, seeing the way Clark played in coverage last year.

  40. Jim S. says:

    I wondered about that also. Looks like Vin has been pitching very well also.

    The only thing I can figure on Sadler is Hurdle says he might need multiple innings, and maybe they just want to see him up close. But, Hughes before Mazzaro seemed curious.

  41. Jim S. says:

    St. Louis, until yesterday, really can’t score any runs. We’ve outscored them by a pretty decent margin.

    But, they have thrown 6 or 7 shutouts (including 2 this weekend). Their starters give them a good outing almost every night, and their bullpen is rock solid. I don’t think they have blown as many saves as we have. As much as I get tired of everyone marveling over the arms in the Cards rotation, it really is hard to deny all the pitching talent they have.

  42. AL says:

    That may be true but I still wouldn’t mind getting another shot at these guys. If the Pens do hoist the cup, it would taste alot sweeter knowing the Broad Street bullies were put in their place without having to rely on another team to do your dirty work for you….IMHO.

  43. Jim S. says:

    A lot of people predicted him to be the breakout prospect, hitting-wise, this year, Lucky. So far, so good. #SSS

  44. Karen22 says:

    Yes! Stir the pot, Jandy! Funny how all these prospects who still “need to work on some things” have it all worked out just in time for June call-ups. Remarkable, even! Such annual coincidences amaze me! ;)

  45. NMR says:

    Morning, Jimbo. I noticed Indy has been using Vin in 2+ inning situations, even though they seem to be coming at the end of games. Keeping guys stretched out, I suppose? Maybe they normally do that and I just don’t pay enough attention.

  46. dcpinpgh says:

    LOL at the Antonio Brown article. I could have missed something, but I don’t see where AB said anything Ryan Clark said was incorrect.

  47. Nate83 says:

    The last 2 years they went on like a 45 game stretch where the offense just clicked and they put up very impressive numbers. There are signs that they are capable of that again. But you can’t ignore facts and so far through 26 games they have too many games with little to no offensive production. Hopefully it’s just a prolonged bad stretch and not the norm.

    I know for a fact that Pedro and Marte will not do this all year. They make up half of the first four batter in the line up. That is hard to overcome. If they pick it up the entire team starts scoring runs.

  48. Jim S. says:

    I was thrilled that he skipped college and took our check, AJS. That was the only way the Bucs were getting him.

  49. Thundercrack says:

    I noticed Maz getting multiple innings too.
    But yesterday’s game was supposed to be Sadler’s start. So they basically had a spot-starter going….so maybe everybody was expected to go multiple innings.

  50. Nate83 says:

    Odd signing by the Redsikins (but that’s nothing new). Clark’s best years are obviously behind him. The decline was quick last year and I’m not aware of any injuries being the reason. My guess is age and maybe lack of dedication off season conditioning. I’m shocked anyone allowed him to make money for another year. I fully expected him to be working at ESPN this football season.

  51. bpn8pitt says:

    You know adding Clark and Desean Jackson to RG3 and some of the crap that surrounds him, along with Gruden’s brother? They will be anything but boring. Thats who should be on Hard Knocks.

  52. Good point, Gunner. Too much proven talent there for the entire team to be offensively challenged the entire season. Unlike years past, they have a track record.

    Better to get a streak like this out of the way now. Then, when help arrives, we’ll have righted the ship. Gives us more trade chips on 7-31, also.

  53. theplanisworking says:

    #23b …….. Man City back in control of their title hopes.

  54. scapper says:

    Looks like we’re all in full “Fan Playoff Hockey” mode. Pens lose a game and it’s “Blow up the team and begin the mass firings!” Pens win and it’s, “Who do we want to destroy in the next round?” Happens every year and I’m always guilty of it myself.

  55. Milo Hamilton says:

    RIP Dr. Jack Ramsay.

  56. hockeymonster says:

    Is there a game tonight?

  57. Jim S. says:

    I read today that the Bucs had an 11-17 stretch from early Aug through early Sept last year. So, they’ve been down this road before during a good year. The difference was, last year by that time they had built up some credibility with us by having a very good record for the fist 120 games or so already.

    Shifting gears, – Please Clint, when the offense is struggling, and you manage to get your #8 and #9 hitters on base to start an inning vs. maybe the best pitcher in the league, let your leadoff guy swing the bat. Not only do I hate giving up outs like that, but it appears no one on our team is capable of putting down a successful sacrifice very often.

  58. JAL says:

    Almost–they have 3 games left and 3 wins gets them to 86 points, Liverpool has 2 left and two wins gets them to 86 points. Chelsea has 2 games left and 2 wins gets them to 84 points. Man City has a goal differential of 50 while Liverpool is at 50 so Man City would win unless Liverpool goes on a goal scoring binge.

  59. Jim S. says:

    Wow! I thought he might live forever. I thought he was a terrific analyst, after a great coaching career.

  60. JAL says:

    make that Man City Goal differential is 58

  61. theplanisworking says:


    Last year, the Bucs had timely hitting, great pitching (both starters and bullpen), and leadership. Injuries were few, and a hunger was there (to break the streak).

    This year, the pitching has gone south, the hitting is spotty (I really don’t care that the Pirates are near the top in runs scored ….. a few 11-2 games skew that statistic), no one has stepped up in a leadership role, and there appears to be no hunger. I am not saying that they are ‘fat cats’ from last year’s success, but there doesn’t seem to be any urgency to win this year.

    And I am not going to discuss he who shall not be discussed. I will say that June 22 can’t come soon enough for this team. (The Super 2 deadline is a little later this year).

    Pirates really need to start stepping it up. What do they say out at the U of Arizona? BEAR DOWN !



    Great effort Saturday night!
    But, can they match that again tonight?
    Read an article that the Pens can’t afford a game 7 back here. This attitude always baffled me…….. you try to win every game, but if you start saying you don’t want a game 7, you are in many ways already conceding defeat! Happened in the 1996 ECF against Florida………… if you have home ice, you shouldn’t be worried about any game 7.

    This team also needs to BEAR DOWN !

  62. Jim S. says:

    I like pot stickers. Yum, yum! ;-)

  63. Jim S. says:

    Can they tie, JAL? What do they do in that case?

  64. Jim S. says:

    Good catch. Maybe they are preparing him for extended duty in Pgh soon?

  65. Jason81 says:

    “Their starters give them a good outing almost every night, and their bullpen is rock solid.”

    Sounds exactly like the formula that got the Pirates 94 wins last year. Amazing what can happen when there is a drop off in overall performance by the pitching staff as a whole.

  66. JoeyBats says:


    No one…..NO ONE on this team can bunt!

    If Manager Clint is going to insist on trying to bunt…..they ought to take a week out of spring training next year…..and focus on this “lost art.” ;-)

  67. Nate83 says:

    Always liked him. I’m hearing a lot of stories about him today from friends and co-workers. Really an amazing guy that lived life to the fullest. It’s a nice break to hear a persons life celebrated instead of all the Sterling stuff that is non-stop.

    I really hope they don’t punish that guy by making him sell a team he spent 15 million on for 500 million. I’d rather see him suspended for a year and made to pay a gigantic fine. Hopefully whatever siblings he have are more decent people and maybe they can sell the team for a profit if they inherit the team.

  68. Milo Hamilton says:

    There is no set date for Super 2. The date won’t be known for sure until after the completion of the 2016 season.

  69. Jandy says:

    Depends on who shows up!!


  70. Jandy says:

    Thanks yinz 2 ! Love the support ;)

  71. Jandy says:

    :scratches head:

  72. theplanisworking says:

    Sorry, Milo, I was basing my date on the ultra-conservative safety for the Pirate FO. Wouldn’t surprise me if they waited until the 4th of July.


  73. theplanisworking says:

    So someone can break their cheekbone like AJ did in 2012?

    Bunting is something that isn’t taught too much at the lower levels of ball anymore. Then, players can’t do it at the MLB level. I blame the DH rule in most leagues.

  74. Jim S. says:

    They are painfully bad at it.

    I think Marte is kind of good at dropping it down the 3b line for hits. He’s done that a couple of times this year. Carpenter made a great play on him when he tried it – either Fri or Sat, can’t remember which.

    But, sacrifices are a different animal and the whole team seems so bad at it right now. Even if Clint thinks it is a better strategy than I might think, I at least hope he understands it is not a good strategy if no one can get one down consistently.

  75. TK says:

    Question I asked on Travis’ blog (question still under moderation):

    Casey Sadler was a 23 year old pitcher with Indy who was pitching well. Why were the Pirates not concerned about his Super 2 status when making the decision to call him up to Pittsburgh?

    If anyone can answer that question I’d appreciate it.

  76. Nate83 says:

    That insanity Jim. Are you telling me teams including the 94 win Pirates last year go through bad stretches like this every year.

    I’m not guaranteeing they turn this around and finish with more then 85 wins or something but I’m not jumping ship at this point. Top of the order has to be better. Marte and Pedro specifically have to pick up their production.

    Somebody posted stats yesterday about runs produced during different situations over something like the last 60 years. All I needed to see was that on average more runs are scored in an inning that has runners on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs then there are with runners 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. That’s if the bunt is successful if it is not the runs scored with runner on 1st and 2nd with 1 out is drastically lower then with 0 outs.

    Never bunt unless it’s a pitcher or doing it for a hit with Marte. There are 60 years of stats showing you it’s the wrong thing to do.

  77. Jim S. says:

    DH would seem to be a culprit, since it is mostly pitchers who are called to sacrifice (except on the Pirats, of course).

  78. Milo Hamilton says:

    It’s an educated guess & nothing more. The top 22% of players with at least 2 but less than 3 years of major league experience. It can and will fluctuate over the next three seasons. You can think you’re safe with a guy but if players who came up prior start getting sent back to the minors for whatever reason, your guy moves up the list.

  79. Milo Hamilton says:

    Because he’s going back to the minors. Clock stops ticking when you go back.

  80. Nate83 says:

    Because he will be sent back down at some point soon. His overall service time won’t be enough for Super 2 to be an issue. When Polanco comes up he will be up for good just like Cole was last year.

  81. Milo Hamilton says:

    By the way, I’m obviously making all this Super 2 stuff up because according to Dejan no one here could possibly know any of this.

  82. Jandy says:

    Thanks, Milo, but it was the 2016 season that threw me off…I’m still losted…

  83. theplanisworking says:

    Is this topic on the no discussion list also? ;)

  84. Nate83 says:

    I’m glad you posted because mine would have not had been as good an explanation. That is the best description of Super 2 and what factors into it I have ever read.

  85. Jandy says:

    You should write a novel :)

  86. Jandy says:

    Screw that list! (yeah, I said it!) lol

  87. Milo Hamilton says:

    All the players brought up this season will start accumulating service time. They count it up by how many days you’re in the big leagues. You count this year, 2015 & 2016. The top 22% of those players in terms of days spent in the big leagues will qualify for arbitration prior to the 2017 season. And also in 2018, 2019 & 2020.

  88. Jandy says:

    Ok got it now…what a way to figure something out…only MLB!

  89. That topic is on the Twitter “rip the blog” list.


  90. Thundercrack says:

    I would bet that if we went back and looked at blog posts from last year at around this time we were complaining about spotty hitting. It seems like the same offense to me. Streaky, not enough key hits that extend rallies or tack on an extra run, and too many Ks

  91. Thundercrack says:

    Hey, if they are out of contention they could always send Polanco back down and stop his clock.


  92. NMR says:

    At least Clint didn’t throw his player under the bus this time in his post-game interview.


  93. Milo Hamilton says:

    And while were at it, I read two separate pieces by two writers that should know better getting this all wrong. paul Zeise in the PG & Colin Dunlap in a story posted on the local CBS radio site. Both of them said that by waiting until that very vague date in June, the Pirates gain another year of control with Polanco. That’s just wrong. The only significance of the June date is in regards to Super 2 & nothing else. The extra year of control date passed 2 weeks ago. That is not a factor.

    As I said, these guys should know better.

  94. NMR says:

    “As I said, these guys should know better.”

    Seems right on par with their usual work.

  95. Jandy says:

    Pot Stirrer! :P

  96. Jim S. says:

    I’ve read some stats about their hitting that would suggest it will get better. I think they are hitting an inordinate amount of line drive outs as a team, for one thing. Line drives usually bring over .650 batting average and the Bucs are well below that. Their batting average on balls in play, overall, has been very low, and you would think that will turn around a bit. There are some other stats as well. But, losses are losses no matter whether you got tough breaks or not. They have to turn it around.

    As for bunting, I think there are some situations where you are playing for 1 run, and 1 run only, where I might not argue too much. Or, if that had been the #7 and #8 hitters who got on in front of Volquez yesterday, by all means go for it. But, as a general rule, I’m with you on bunting with position players. Then, when we add in the performance of the team bunting so far this year …

  97. The Gunner says:

    April has just been dreadful for the Bucs. Almost as bad as the 1965 Bucs – perhaps you remember. They were 9-24 before they went on a tear & ended up winning 90 games. Clemente, Stargell & Clendenon led the offense. The starting rotation was Veale, Law, Friend, & Cardwell. And the bullpen was solid with McBean, Schwall & Wood.

    Let’s hope for a repeat!

  98. Jim S. says:

    Our hitting w/ RISP was particularly bad last year, as I recall. We complained about it all year.

  99. hockeymonster says:

    So hope we plan on having 2 good games in a row. No one was more pleased with game 5 and the 3rd period than but here’s hoping we packed our Killa Instincts for game 6. Time to drop the haamma on Columbus!

    Mercy is for the weak, we do not train to be merciful here! :)

  100. Jim S. says:

    9-24 became, what, 90-64, Gunner? That had to be the days of 154 game schedules, right?

  101. Jandy says:

    I’ll be watching!

  102. Nate83 says:

    I think Jandy even knew that :) No offense Jandy. You have admitted you are new to baseball and learning. Actually I agree with a lot more that you say about the Pirates then some long time followers of the game.

  103. I saw your post on yesterday’s game thread about it. I faintly remember that season. Wonder how many innings that rotation threw before even getting to the bullpen.

    We can go two-deep now to match it, but after that, there’s a fall off unless Volquez continues his consistency and Cumpton and others step up. Charlie might not even make that rotation. Wandy would have in his prime or even last season before his injury.

  104. The Gunner says:

    you are correct, Jim – it was awful. Not much change this year; must be a hitting coach issue, right?

  105. Nate83 says:

    Don’t forget the no sac flies for something like 80 games in a row.

  106. Jim S. says:

    For sure, Jason. Grilli had a couple of bad innings last weekend, when Braun crushed him 2x in the 9th. If he had avoided that, we’d be much better at 12-14. Still not great, but much closer to respectable.

  107. Jandy says:

    Actually, Nate, you’re kinda right…seems those guys (Zeise and Dunlap) lump Super 2 and Years of Control together ;)
    No offense taken :) I can dish it out, so I had better be able to take it, too LOL

  108. Nate83 says:

    More runs is always better. 7 blown saves this year. If you play for 1 run that is what you will get if even that. Maybe if you try for an infinite amount of runs you will stumble across the one that you wanted in the first place.

  109. Baywatch says:

    Morning, All! Bay & Ray

  110. The Gunner says:

    The final 1965 record was 90-72. They were in the hunt well into September. But the wheels were falling off in early May real bad. I even remember a front page article in the newspaper about Clemente being so sour on the manager that he was demanding to be traded etc.

  111. Jandy says:

    hey Bay! Up here! :D

  112. Nate83 says:

    What did he say in the post game interview? If it wasn’t “well that was a dumb decision” then it was the wrong answer. I’m just kidding. I try not to judge individual manager decisions during games but I sometimes accidently do it. As an overall strategy I don’t like the bunting.

  113. Jim S. says:

    Great post, Milo.

  114. Thundercrack says:

    I think Pompeani reads this blog. Because during last night’s sports report he listed all the players hitting less than .250…..something I did over the weekend.

    Polanco would be nice and may help. But if key guys, especially Pedro & Marte keep stinking – – not much may change.

  115. The Gunner says:


    I just looked it up about the # of complete games that year:

    Veale – 14
    Law – 13
    Cardwell – 12
    Friend – 8
    Gibbon – 1
    Sisk – 1

    I guarantee you won’t see those numbers in 2014 – ha ha!

  116. Jim S. says:

    Just guessing here, TK, but even though they like Sadler, I don’t think they look at him as a star pitcher in the big leagues. I think they look at him as #5 starter material, or maybe a nice reliever.

  117. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’m convinced Jim Colony reads this blog.

  118. Thundercrack says:

    How else would he learn stuff too, Milo?


  119. Dom says:

    Gotta agre with Milo.

    Who is Travis?

  120. Jim S. says:

    I don’t know for sure, Gunner. But, if you don’t hit for a high average w/o RISP you probably won’t hit for a high average w/ RISP. Cutch was our only starter going into the season we knew we could count on to hit over .280. Tabby is capable of it, and Walker has done it. Marte, when he isn’t striking out 40% of the time, can hit for a decent average. But, of the full-time starters, Cutch is about the only guy who consistently hits for average. The team hits more than it’s share of HR and strikeouts. Seems to me that is a team set up to be feast or famine w/ or w/o RISP.

    It is so important that Polanco becomes the hitter he is projected to be.

  121. JAL says:

    If tied on points they go to goal differential, if tied on goal differential they go to goals scored, if still tied and the position is deemed significant the teams would have a 1 game playoff for position.

  122. Jim S. says:

    We’ve blown 7 save this year? Is that counting every time a guy came in to pitch in a save situation, even though if it was before the 9th inning we know he was not going to have a chance to get the save?

    The ones that I remember are the 3 Grilli ones – including the Sun vs. Milwaukee one where I never thought he should have been in the game. The first one Grilli had was vs. the Cubs, and I think we ended up pulling that game out in about 14 or 15 innings.

  123. Jim S. says:

    Thanks for clarifying, Gunner. I didn’t realize they were playing 162 that far back.

    Still, 9-24 to 90-72. They went 81-48 after that start. That was before my time, but it must have been a very good team.

  124. NMR says:

    Yeah, I didn’t quite understand that statistic either, Jim.

  125. Jim S. says:

    Thanks. I figured at some point they’d have to actually play a game to settle it.

  126. Naterosboro says:

    Monday Musings….

    * I didn’t think Ryan Clark was taking shots at teammates with his earlier comments about marijuana in the NFL. In fact, I think he was advocating its usage, rather than have players drink or use prescription pills.

    * I think Antonio Brown took Ryan Clark’s comments out of context.

    * If someone in the Steelers locker room called out LaMarr Woodley then…good. Lamarr was a player that benefitted from having James Harrison on the other side. As soon as the focus of the opposing offense line was shifted to him, his production dropped. He never justified his contract. And I liked LaMarr…

    * Remember when I mused last time, and said Malkin & Crosby wouldn’t go goalless in the Playoffs…..forget that. Seriously though, it’s getting comical at this stage.

    * Penguins need to put away Columbus tonight. You never want a Game 7 death match. Unless it’s against the Capitals.

    * Marc-Andre Fleury got my message about playing the puck behind the net. 10 years as a pro and he hasn’t figured it out. So don’t do it.

    * I really like Robert Bortuzzo’s game. Think he can be our next “shutdown” defenseman.

    * Who would’ve thought Matt Niskanen would’ve turned into the player we’re seeing? I guess Ray Shero. He acquired him as a “throw in” in the James Neal trade. Kind of like how Pascal Dupuis was “thrown in” the Marian Hossa deal. Say what you want about his ability to draft a Top 6 forward……….

    * Sometimes, I think the fans create this atmosphere of “All Work & No Play” for the Penguins. A loss is treated with “Fire Bylsma” “We need a new system” “Bench Malkin, Crosby & other stars” “Clean House” “The country club will continue”, etc.

    * But then I remember these are pro-athletes playing a game. They should always be having fun no matter what fan sentiment is. They get to play a game they love for a living. If that doesn’t put a smile on their faces…perhaps it’s time to reevaluate their life choices.

    * The Pirates need Crash Davis on their roster. Not because of his ability to hit minor league home runs. No. They need him because he’s a man that can get you a day off. And that’s exactly what this whole team needs.

    * The Pirates have the day off to travel to Baltimore. Maybe that Crash Davis guy is overrated after all. Also, I think he’s now the Cleveland Browns GM. No time to catch in the South Atlantic league anymore….

    * Baseball is the worst game when you’re not playing well.

    * Not sure who made the Pirates schedule, but this whole “only play your division” thing for the first month of the season was none too kind. Except they did throw the Cubbies in there. I guess thanks for that.

    * Jeanmar Gomez needs off this roster. He served his purpose last season.

    That seems like a good place to stop. Hope everyone enjoys their day, and here’s hoping to a Pens victory in Game 6.


  127. Jim S. says:

    Maybe he is one of us, cleverly pseudonym’d.

  128. Nate83 says:

    You are correct they list them as having 7 blown saves but that includes leads given up in the 7th and 8th as well. For what it’s worth they had 15 such “blown saves” last year. I think Grilli has 3 and maybe Watson had a 9th inning more traditional blown save this year.

    Sorry for the confusion. Point still being more runs needed and playing for one run before the 8th inning is an odd concept to me.

  129. Jordan White says:

    Looks like I’m late to this conversation, but if I remember correctly, it was a torn meniscus. It was something that should’ve have kept him out 6-8 weeks rather than 2-5 months, but for the life of them, he and the trainers could not get the swelling down until almost after the season.

    Am I remembering correctly?

  130. NMR says:

    Point well made, regardless, Nate. I was just curious.

  131. NMR says:

    Melancon has quietly been prettay darn good.

  132. Tom P. says:

    I don’t follow the NBA that much, but I always enjoyed the team of Jim Durham and Dr. Jack Ramsay doing games on the radio. Easy to understand, informative, great demeanor. Both have now passed away.

  133. Milo Hamilton says:

    Yohe says it looks like the same lineup for Pens. Sid & Geno aren’t skating together.

  134. JohninOshkosh says:

    I watched with great pleasure WGN’s show on Wrigley Field’s 100 anniversary this past weekend.

    Forgot how intertwined the histories are between the Cubs and Pirates. It was a Stargell blast, that for all we know has not yet landed, that commenced the Cubs collapse in September 1969. It was literally a crippling defeat for the Cubs.

    Wonderful footage, including Clemente, in those fabulous late 60’s, early 70’s, uniforms. Man, were both leagues loaded then. Terrific clubs in Chicago, New York, LA, Baltimore, etc. I’m not sure today’s league has many comparables.

    My first game was a Pirates/Cubs game in July 1970 at Wrigley. Dock Ellis threw a pitch at Jim Hickman and the Cub pitcher later threw at Ellis’ head and a huge brawl ensued. I think that is what happened. I was only four years old, but I’ve been told about it for years. I have vague recollections of the brawl.

    Milo’s eidetic baseball memory once reminded me that the game was on July 5, 1970.

    I know the Brewers and Cardinals are probably bigger rivals now, but that Cubs/Buccos rivalry back then was epic.

  135. Andrew says:

    It was a meniscus tear, length of rehab depends upon what exactly the surgeons did. I think there were complication with Bell, I remember reading something about swelling.

  136. Milo Hamilton says:

    That wasn’t my memory, it was :) Nice to see you back.

  137. Andrew says:

    Title comes down to what City does at Everton. Liverpool’s and Man City’s other opponents are all very beatable. Brendan Rodgers was a bit petulant following the defeat Sunday.

  138. Andrew says:

    High strikeouts = streaky offense, when you’re lead off hitter and 4th and 5th hitter are striking out more than a 1/4 of time the offense will be prone to slumps.

  139. Naterosboro says:

    Vince Young to get a tryout with the Cleveland Browns.

    I really think Kevin Costner is the GM.

  140. Andrew says:

    Milo your overall point is correct, but because Polanco was added to the 40 man roster if he spent less than 20 days in AAA, these would have counted toward service time, so the date for the extra year of control was April 19th-21st.

  141. Jandy says:

    * Penguins need to put away Columbus tonight. You never want a Game 7 death match. Unless it’s against the Capitals.


  142. Jandy says:

    Wild One, anything hidden here? Just curious ;)

  143. Jim S. says:

    Here’s a free tip for you bloggers out there. Didn’t work for me, but maybe you’ll have better luck wtih it.

    There were a couple of areas where our numbers at work missed objective last month, but are still on pace for the year. When my boss asked about them, I threw out a “small sample size” reference and told him I am more concerned about YTD performance than month-to-month trends. He wasn’t as amused as I was by my clever retort.

  144. Jandy says:

    Here’s the line-up for the morning skate:

    Defenseman Brooks Orpik, who did not play in Game 5, was the only absent player at the Pens morning skate.

    The Penguins used the following workflow…


    The defense skated in end-to-end rushes in pairs of three.

    PP1: Martin, Niskanen up top. Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz down low.
    PP2: Maatta, Letang up top. Neal, Jokinen, Sutter down low.

    No word on what is up with Brooksie.

  145. Jandy says:

    LOL! Wow, Jim, you have cajones! ;)

  146. Jim S. says:

    Agreed, NMR. Melancon has been masterful so far, IMO. What a brilliant deal to get him.

  147. Jim S. says:

    Not any more. :-)

  148. Jandy says:

    LOL! You don’t skeer that easily ;)

  149. Jim S. says:

    No, it was all in fun, actually. We had a good laugh about it after I explained what I meant.

  150. JohninOshkosh says:

    Where’s Naje ?

    I’m ready for some Derby talk. First Saturday in May this weekend. Although, it feels like First Saturday in November.

  151. Wild Bill says:

    I think James likes to bait others here.

  152. Jandy says:

    That’s good…my Boss loves sports, too, so that is one thing we can be loose on…I even made it sound like I knew basketball, from what picked up reading this blog…he was amazed!

  153. Jandy says:

    You may be right, Wild One. What I think is, he’s either smart enough to do that, or he’s really dumb, because he never backs anything up, or responds when addressed about things.

  154. Wild Bill says:

    Horses running in an oval beats the heck out of cars driving in an oval.

  155. Wild Bill says:

    So if Milo’s 22% thingy is correct, isn’t if likely that the Pirates have statistically measured how many usually come up and then are watching to see when the call ups exceed that number??

    Excuse me if someone asked already.

  156. Nate83 says:

    I was worried about Melancon more the Grilli this year. I’m really impressed by how he has pitched. Quick and efficient.

  157. Nate83 says:

    They do, but as Milo pointed out who is part of that 22% changes overtime because of injuries or being sent back down because of bad play. To be safe there is probably historical data that they use that tells them to wait until maybe 20 players after that 22% and it will practically guarantee they clear Super 2.

  158. Jim S. says:

    My boss is a Blackhawks, Bulls and White Sox fan. And, Packers. Not sure why he doesn’t like the Bears much.

  159. Jandy says:

    haha! +++

  160. Wild Bill says:

    Only in baseball can you have this stuff to this degree.

  161. Jandy says:

    There’s a pic of Gibbons skating with the team this morning…

  162. Jandy says:

    I just wanted to say, thanks very much for your from-the-heart comment about Ron Francis. He’s definitely one of a kind. Here’s wishing him success being the GM of the Hurricanes.

  163. theplanisworking says:

    Next on No Witness News ……….

    Pirates wait to Labor Day to call up players.
    No film at 11.

  164. Bizrow says:


  165. Naterosboro says:

    Ron Francis is a Top 10 Human Being?

    What criteria are we basing this ranking on?

    And is this only currently alive humans, or all time humans?

    Seems like a few questions need answers.

  166. Jason81 says:

    I learned that Rob Scuderi has a brother that apparently is ready to jump in to the Pens lineup tonight. :D

  167. hockeymonster says:

    A lot of chicago people lost interest in da bears when they fired da coach.

  168. Jim S. says:

    Bears fandom is like the Steelers. People follow a little less closely when the team is bad, but I don’t think many of them switch to the enemy. Same with going the other way if you start out a Packers fan.

  169. Jandy says:

    Why wouldn’t he be?

  170. scapper says:

    Be willing to wager that this is the only sports blog in the country where one can find the word “eidetic” today…or yesterday…or tomorrow…Nice!

  171. Jandy says:

    It’s likely the only blog where people understand what it means as well :)

  172. Jandy says:

    I saw that too lol

  173. NMR says:

    Not directly Pittsburgh related, but would anyone care to discuss Donald Sterling?

  174. cmat0829 says:

    Happy Monday, all.

    1. If we are accepting entries for the Polanco Pool, put me down for June 13th, makes debut on Friday the 13th in Miami.
    2. Saw some squawking about Marte’s bunt yesterday, 0-out and runners on 1and2, down 1-0 to Cardinals’ Ace. Absolutely the right move, no doubt in my mind. Marte is scuffling, you get him to put a good bunt down, put pressure on the 3b to make a good play to throw him out and you never know. If Marte were hitting well, you may think again, but no brainer based on the extended funk he is in.
    3. In the Pirates 16 losses, they have scored a total of 34 runs, slightly more than 2 per game. 11 games have scored 2 runs or less. The pitching has not been good, and is a concern, but you aren’t going to win too many games scoring 2 runs or less. The Bucs did win their share last season, but hard not to point at the lack of offense as driving most of the 16 losses so far.

  175. scapper says:

    Doing this from my head so I might be mistaken, but in the Pens’ franchise history, the only non-Caps game 7 win was the Devils in ’91, right?

    I remember Isles twice, Florida, Montreal, Philly (think that was a home game back in the late 80s)…REALLY need about four goals from Sid and Geno tonight to avoid another game 7 home heartbreak.

  176. Excellent, Gunner. That’s more than even I would have thought. Their arms all fell off after the season, too, right?

  177. Baywatch says:

    Pirates, I know it sounds like a line from one of the older toys in Toy Story but … I DON’T WANNA BE A LOSER AGAIN!!!

  178. Baywatch says:


  179. 21sthebest says:

    Get the man some professional help.

    That’s all I have.

  180. cmat0829 says:

    A few thoughts:

    1) His beliefs are reprehensible and not defendable in any way. The Clippers’ President made a statement that was ridiculous in first questioning the authenticity of the recording and then doing the old ‘let me tell you all the good things this loser does that mean these statements are not consistent with his character’. YUCK.

    2) In today’s information age, it is absolutely stupid for someone in his position (across any business much less the NBA) to make comments like this.

    3) #1and2 aside, it is a bit complicated as to what the NBA can do. Not sure there are specific rules about being a racist and making stupid comments, so legally (and Silver is a lawyer) I’m sure the NBA is going to move deliberately. To me, at minimum, he needs to give up any active control of the team during the investigation; and very likely his punishment may mean he has to give up this control forever. Whether that means the NBA can force him to sell is unclear to me.

    4) What I find fascinating is that this guy’s “character” was pretty well known for many years and all involved chose to ignore it or at least not make a big deal of it. That includes African-American executives, coaches, and players, including the current high-profile coach Doc Rivers. What is it in these audio tapes that tips the scales now? Is it that it is public and so blatant? Is it plausible for players and coaches , and NBA owners and commissioners office, to say they didn’t know to the extent Sterling was such a racist and despicable fool until this recording went public??

  181. Nate83 says:

    I mentioned him above. It’s obviously a touchy topic. The non-stop news coverage and painting society as having major racism issues that will now happen will become old quickly. I don’t think an elderly rich NBA owner represents where America is morally going forward with younger generations. There will always be issues and things can always be better but this guy does not represent anyone born after segregation. His wife sounds like a real peach of person as well.

    Forcing him to sell the team for 480 million more then the 15 million he paid is hardly a punishment. It will be interesting to see how the new commissioner handles this.

  182. Jim S. says:

    Really sad. 2014.

  183. Nate83 says:

    Agree, he does need professional help. This isn’t the first time his views have landed him in hot water. He has already settled out of court one time for a good amount of money to make an issue go away involving race.

  184. hockeymonster says:

    Ya i thought it was weird too when i lived there. But apparently there are a lot of people who became packers fans out of spite when they fired da coach.

  185. Jandy says:

    I don’t follow basketball, but from what little I’ve heard and read, and the reactions below, I’d say he needs a muzzle. And maybe a dog box.

  186. Jim S. says:

    I made a similar comment about Fleury last week, Nate. The guy is so good at so much of the job of goaltending. It has always amazed me that he is so unaware of what is going on around him every time he ventures from the net.

  187. JohninOshkosh says:

    See my post yesterday in Pirates game thread. Nate responded as well.

    I’d much rather have a perceived as cheap owner than that ass clown who shouldn’t have the door hit him on said ass while leaving his role as owner.

    Pittsburgh has good, and I mean that in the human sense of the word, ownership groups.

  188. NMR says:

    Amen, John.

  189. Jim S. says:

    Maybe fans on the border, where it is easier to switch? I don’t know anyone who’s willing to admit it.

    But, as I have said here many times before, everyone has now been a “Hawks fan for life.” When they stunk a handful of years ago, they were playing to less than 50% capacity and there was no talk of them at all. Now, the town is on fire with hockey. Even the Bulls are getting very little attention in the playoffs.

  190. NMR says:

    Regarding punishment, I hope the NBA does nothing. It’s not illegal, nor against the rules, to be an ignorant racist, after all.

    What I’d love to see is the players and fans empowered to bring about the change that is needed. I’d love to see both his players and opposing players refuse to take the court. I’d love to see fans refuse to fill the seats.

    “I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have—Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?”

    This is a man whose wealth has completely skewed reality. And you can guarantee he’s not alone.

  191. cmat0829 says:

    NMR, I have the same thought, in that he hasn’t broken any laws…but the question for the NBA is whether he broke any by-laws… as you probably know, being a league owner generally requires the approval of a majority of other owners, so I think, but do not know, but I think other owners can withdraw their approval for him to be a controlling, active owner. Whether they can force him to actually sell his share is an interesting question.

    You probably recall Cuban’s interest in the Pirates and Cubs and I think it was well-reported that MLB owners would never actually approve Cuban to be an owner of an MLB team… obviously Cuban has nothing to do with Sterling’s racism, just pointing out that owners can be barred from owning teams for something far less insidious.

  192. cmat0829 says:

    lol, pretty sure any list of the top 10 human beings has to include Gregory Polanco…. lol

  193. Nate83 says:

    I’m not 100% sure but isn’t each owner looked at as kind of owning 1/30 of the league. People get pushed out/bought out of businesses all the time. The Dodgers owner was forced out in Baseball. I think the owners can ask him to politely sell the team and it could simply be for the reason that it is good for the league and it’s reputation.

  194. NMR says:

    Oh, I certainly agree that the NBA is feverishly combing through their means of punishing this guy and would probably love to get him out completely. And if they don’t have any rules to do it, I have no problem with them re-writing the book.

    But I just personally would love to see his downfall come from the very people he feels are beneath him: the players and fans.

  195. Botherhood of the Redus says:

    With you on Gomez…it was fun while it lasted…move on.

  196. cmat0829 says:

    I think we are all in agreement (YES!!) but I think an underreported part of this is that many players, and I suppose fans, were well-aware of this guy’s ‘character’ and did nothing in the many years he owned the team. Baron Davis, former Clipper, tweeted as much over the weekend that everyone knew what this guy was all about…. so these specific comments are not surprising to many.

    So I wholeheartedly approve of any and everything the players do now, but just interesting to me that it took TMZ to bring this guy down….

  197. Jandy says:

    From Rossi’s “Chipped Ice”

    Brooks Orpik is likely to miss a second consecutive Stanley Cup playoff game for the Penguins on Monday night.

    Orpik, a defenseman, did not participate in a morning practice at Nationwide Arena. Instead, he spent time riding a stationary bike outside the visitors’ dressing room. Orpik was not wearing any braces on either his knees or ankles, and did not have any part of his mid- to lower-body areas wrapped in ice or heat.

    Orpik did not play in the Penguins’ home Game 5 victory on Saturday night. Team policy is not to provide specifics regarding injury during the playoffs, but Orpik walked gingerly after the contest.

    Whatever the injury, it is limiting Orpik’s ability to injury.

    With Orpik out, defenseman Robert Bortuzzo would make his second consecutive appearance for the Penguins, who can advance to Round 2 with a win over the Columbus Blue Jackets on Monday night.

    Coach Dan Bylsma said Marc-Andre Fleury will start for the Penguins. He also promised to “feel out” opportunities to play centers Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin together at even strength.

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  198. Jandy says:

    Disclaimer, the line above “whatever the injury, it is limiting Orpik’s ability to injury” is NOT my typo, it is Rossi’s :)

  199. theplanisworking says:

    I feel there is no amount of professional help that would truly change that man. One can always hope, but he has been like this forever……… not much chance of changing him this late in life.

  200. theplanisworking says:

    Game 7 HOME win.
    Pens undefeated in game 7’s on the road.
    A truly impressive statistic.

    (I did not look up there record in game 5’s, when that was the end of a series back before 1984.)

  201. NMR says:

    I do understand your point, but I think this might be a situation where opportunity is needed first.

    I don’t doubt that we all work with someone who is generally a sh*tty person, but it is hard to really take a stand until they are explicitely caught being sh*tty.

  202. Lad 9 says:

    I am a sucker for stories like this, but it made me smile so I will link it. Plus it is a nice counterpoint to the Donald Sterling ugliness. There is a lot of good out there in sports. We just don’t hear it as much…..

  203. Milo Hamilton says:

    Both Game 7 home wins were shutouts.

    1991 vs New Jersey 4-0
    1995 vs Washington 3-0

  204. Milo Hamilton says:

    And both came after winning Game 6 on the road.

    All six Game 7 home losses came after losing Game 6 on the road.

  205. Jandy says:

    Thanks for sharing, Lad, made me smile :D

  206. 21sthebest says:

    I’d get him professional help to see if he can be rehabilitated before I’d make him sell the team.

  207. theplanisworking says:

    +++++++++++ a whole bunch.
    And then some.

  208. Nate83 says:

    Baron Davis wasn’t the only player or journalist coming forward and saying this was not a surprise. I think every sports team or for that matter many large business have skeletons in their closet. It’s a big machine and many not at the top of the machine see things that are wrong but just keep their head down and work. Nobody questions the guy in the room with all the money even if every person in the room knows the guy is worthless.

  209. Nate83 says:

    Awesome story. Thanks for sharing.

    I was at a girls high school soccer game a while back and the game started with a girl kicking it to her teammate and then everyone stepping aside and letting that girl score. I asked what was going on and they said the girl was in a horrible accident a few years back and had been with the team as an assistant. It was her last game and they wanted to let her score but she couldn’t physically play well enough to play at full speed. The other team then was allowed to score to tie it up. Sports really can be so much more positive then some of the things we here about nationally.

  210. Naterosboro says:

    Ha! I was just trying to have some fun with Dejan’s statement. Personally, I don’t know if he makes my Top 10 Humans, but, then again, I think this whole process is a bit subjective….

  211. Thundercrack says:

    Last year the list included Lambo. :-)

  212. Nate83 says:

    I think I’m a top 10 human but doubt I would make most list. Probably not even my wife’s. I may have a chance with my 6 year old. He still has this dad can do no wrong attitude but he probably also has 4 super heroes, 2 cartoon characters and 2 WWE wrestlers in that list so there isn’t much room. My 11 year old forget it. I’m the one person is his life that never stops harping on him. Maybe I can get back on his list when he finishes college.

  213. theplanisworking says:

    Will you accept payment next week?
    I am a bit short………

  214. Jim S. says:

    Thanks, Lad.

  215. Jim S. says:

    Top 10 human being in the world, Nate? You think awfully highly of yourself. There’s 8 billion humans now, right? I couldn’t see placing myself in the top 100. :-)

  216. Nate83 says:

    Oh the entire world. I thought it was just for the keep Polanco in AAA club which only has 12 members. That’s much more difficult of a list to get on.

    It was more of a tongue and cheek attempt at making fun of myself. Although you got to like yourself or you have no chance to enjoy life :)

  217. 21sthebest says:

    I think Jack Wilson is still on it.

  218. Thundercrack says:


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