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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> The TribLIVE Radio podcast yesterday began with a rant on James Franklin and Penn State, and here’s video of that segment:

Joe Starkey takes on the Franklin topic for his Thursday column.

Here’s the latest Franklin news from the Nashville Tennessean.

Here’s another view courtesy of Harrisburg Patriot-News columnist David Jones.

>> So it’ll be the Rangers.

And what a Game 7 it was at the Garden. Incredibly intense stuff.

I’ll have a lot more about this matchup in the Friday column, but suffice it to say for now that, no matter the outcome for the Penguins in the second round, that they got the better matchup of the two. No doubt in my mind about that, especially after seeing the goaltending the Flyers got from Steve Mason last night.

Here’s New York Daily News coverage of the Rangers’ victory.

And Philadelphia Inquirer coverage of the Flyers’ loss.

Here, from the NHL’s YouTube channel, is footage inside the Rangers’ room afterward:

Breaking down the second-round matchup, by Jason Mackey.

Five-on-five play has been a strength for the Penguins, by Chris Adamski.

Brandon Sutter and Joe Vitale make quick returns, by Mackey.

Here’s the Penguins’ playoff schedule.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Penguins page, our Chipped Ice blog and our photo gallery.

>> The Pirates might never play again. Or they might play two today in Baltimore. Rob Biertempfel will cover either way. And in the interim, he offers this look at Ike Davis’ early time.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page, our Bucco Blog and our photo gallery.

Here’s Orioles news from the Baltimore Sun.

Here are official game highlights on


>> On the 40th anniversary, a look back at the Steelers’ legendary 1974 draft. Alan Robinson has this.

Our daily NFL draft preview today looks at running backs, by Robinson.

Charlie Batch is keeping busy, by Mark Kaboly.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Steelers page and our Steel Mill blog.

>> Thank you, as always, for reading.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Carlos Danger says:

    First! Boom.

  2. chethejet1 says:

    Does anyone remotely see Paul Chryst sitting in is office alone with a girl who was raped four day’s earlier and convincing her to be a “hostess” along with some of her bootylicious girl friends. I rest my case over any parent who has a brain that wants their son to play for an adult. Guys a clown and he can spend time now dominating the unemployment line.

  3. TJA says:

    A plug for Joe Starkey’s column today. Well said…

    Have a great day, Everyone.

  4. Wild Bill says:

    Well, we don’t yet know all there is to know about Franklin and the Nashville case. But it’s interesting that in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review we get a strong suggestion already that PSU should not have hired him, supported by quotes from an attorney with ties to the defense of those accused of rape. From the Philadelphia Inquirer we get an article that is supported by a lead prosecutor of the players who are accused, in which Franklin is portrayed much more sympathetically, and there is no suggestion of PSU having made a mistake in their hiring.

    As I said last night, my opinion is not settled with all that is not yet known. But it is interesting to me how quickly folks are ready to judge this situation.

  5. JAL says:

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  8. Jandy says:

    I’m with you Wild One. I want to wait until more comes out. Hey, if he’s done something he shouldn’t have, then by all means, tar and feather him AND Penn State. But what if he didn’t? he’s already been deemed guilty and locked up!

  9. I am among those who would like to know exactly what happened concerning Mike Adams, especially since he apparently changed his story 3 times and was apparently drunk out of his mind when this altercation in question occurred. And then, I’d like to know what his ultimate future with the Steelers will be.

  10. scapper says:

    Seriously! What the hell is up with that whole scene?

  11. AL says:

    Just want to say great article today by Mark Kaboly on Charlie Batch. Great guy on and off the field especially working with the kids. We’re lucky to have him associated with Pittsburgh.

  12. I would certainly hope that James Franklin is innocent concerning that Vanderbilt rape case, since if he isn’t, well, Penn State will have enough to try and recover from in the future without this.

  13. Cobra39 says:

    More Penn State bashing by Pittsburgh columnists. Nothing really new there. So if I have this right, a head coach reaches out to an alleged sexual assault victim and takes action against the accused and is vilified for it while another coach doesn’t reach out to alleged sexual assault victims and takes no action against the accused and is vilified for it? Yes, that seems perfectly consistent and reasonable.

  14. Well, at least it’s now settled that the Pens and Rangers will be phasing off at the Consol Center on Friday night, so now we can all hope that the Pens will be ready since they’ll have had three days to rest up.

  15. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m really having a hard time comparing those 2 situations, which I also saw yesterday on here.

    When did Penn Staters become so “victimized?” It’s a shame, really.

  16. Thundercrack says:

    Did they ever release what Adams’ blood alcohol level was?

    And are any of those 3 guys going to be charged with anything? Someone did get stabbed. Was it determined to be self-defense?

  17. radio wave says:

    As a lifelong Rangers fan, I pick Pens in five.

  18. Wild Bill says:

    Watched the entire Rangers/Flyers game last night. The Rangers will not use the Columbus and Philly formula of trying to beat the snot out of the Pens – they don’t have the personnel for it other than Carcillo. They will rely on their very mobile defense and Lundquist. Nash is good but can be handled.

    This really is a better roster matchup for the Pens. As noted (again) in the Philly paper, the schedule also favors the Pens, with the
    Rangers having to play 5 games in 8 days. Make hay while the sun shines, boys.

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  21. Jandy says:

    Really,radio? I think it will go 7 games….God help the Pens.

  22. Jandy says:

    Wild One, Nash is overrated. lol

    the biggest help the Pens get is what you mentioned…Rags have to play 5 games in 8 days. Ouchies.

  23. Wild Bill says:

    P-G reports Adams’ blood alcohol was .18

  24. NMR says:

    Is that actually what happened, chet?

    Has anyone cleared this up yet? We couldn’t seem to figure it out yesterday.

  25. NMR says:

    I still can’t figure out how he could be guilty of anything but a recruiting violation.

    What am I missing?

  26. NMR says:

    What is hard about that, if you don’t mind me asking?

  27. Jandy says:

    I’m wondering the same thing. But, what do I know?

  28. Wild Bill says:

    Had an amusing déjà vu this morning. It was from several years ago, with Holmgren telling the Flyer fans about Carcillo: “You’re gonna love this guy”. Bet Philly’s really loving him this morning.

  29. NMR says:

    Surprises me how quick people are to jump all over accusations from the defense attorney for a guy who violently raped this poor girl like they’re credible.

    Like you said, Franklin AND PSU deserve all they get if anything was actually done wrong. But man…

  30. BillyBaduka says:

    Congrats to Osh and the Wild for advancing.

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  33. NMR says:

    Minnesota deserves good NHL hockey.

  34. bpn8pitt says:

    I think the point of a lot of people is “Why did Penn State hire Franklin in the first place, when this was hanging out there?”

    Why take the chance?

  35. Dom says:

    Very glad the NYR pulled it off yesterday. I dont think we would have lasted six games against the Flyers.

  36. BillyBaduka says:


  37. Wild Bill says:

    Perhaps no more “Mild” references from Milo?

  38. Thundercrack says:

    Maybe Penn State did investigate the situation and felt Franklin didn’t do anything wrong.

  39. Jandy says:

    The entire point is, no one really knows…yet. Patience…see what comes out..THEN form an opinion.

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  42. Tom says:

    I’m a PSU alum who was a strong proponent of Franklin getting the job back in January. At the time, my thinking was that his name was most certainly going to be run through some mud during this trial. However, I felt fairly confident that the negative impacts of the trial, from PSU’s perspective, would be minimal in the grand scheme of things, because I believed that his name would ultimately be cleared of wrongdoing. The trial itself would lead to a couple of uncomfortable months, but ultimately, he’d come out clean on the other side. I felt that way mostly because, if for no other reason than self-preservation, he knew how high his coaching ceiling was, and if he had ANY skeletons in his closet that could jeopardize his stock as a coach, he would have taken a different job. He seems like an intelligent guy, and I can’t imagine him taking this job, of all the jobs to choose from, this year or in the future, if he actually had done anything that could cost him his job and reputation.

    Now, setting up 15 pretty girls to assist with recruiting? It’s not good, but it’s also fairly common in recruiting these days (and from I’ve read, going back as far as Bear Bryant, though I wasn’t around for any of that). The fact that one of those girls – his direct contact, in fact – got raped, is a horrible, awful thing to have happened. It brings to light a whole new level of conversation about how serious recruiting tactics like that are, and what can happen when they’re employed. But that is completely, 100%, an unintended consequence of his actions, and it’s obviously not something he foresaw at that time. It’s easy to say in hindsight that he should have seen the dangers in it, but it’s fairly common practice, and I can call him out on bad judgment, but not much more. As for him visiting her in the hospital: she was a girl he knew who had been raped – how is visiting her in the hospital a negative?

    So at the end of the day, I’m not rushing to judge him and run him out of town, because I still believe that he handled the situation as well as he possibly could have once everything went down, and I think that all of the negative PR that comes from this will ultimately turn out to be background noise that will eventually fade away. All that said, my confidence in those positions is much shakier than it was a few days ago, and I am much more open to the possibility that I was wrong about all of this. He might have more dirt coming, and that they might have to fire him, and this could all turn into a PR disaster for PSU. I was confident that wasn’t the case before, but I have to admit that at this point, anything’s possible. But, if this is the type of details that are going to come out of the trial, I think this will all blow over. If something bigger comes out, PSU will have to take their lumps, fire him, and deal with the (catastrophic) repercussions. Like DK’s original column noted, there’s a lot of upside in this hire, but no one will be sleeping easy until this all plays out. At this point, all we can do is wait and see.

  43. Jandy says:

    You have a good one, too, Justice :)

  44. scapper says:

    I don’t think the 5 games in 8 days will affect the Rangers. In fact, they’ll probably use it as a sort of rallying factor. I like the Pens in 6, but if it goes 7, I’ll take the Rangers. Pens in home game 7’s is never a good thing.

  45. Tom says:

    Wow, that’s a MUCH longer post than it looked like when I was writing it…….

  46. Jordan White says:

    By “we” do you mean us here in the asylum? I know, for one, would have had an aneurysm in the first period of game 1. THANK YOU HOCKEY GODS!

  47. Jandy says:

    Tom, good post, and your last line says it all.

  48. Leo Walter says:

    As you said bpn,that ( why hire him in the first place ) is the real point. It certainly is attention PSU doesn’t need at this point.

  49. jefft says:

    Dejan–was a day late on reading things, & just got to your column from yesterday. As a fan of hockey who knows little beyond the obvious, I really appreciated the strategy explanation. You can always pick up a book on X’s & O’s, & fall asleep a couple of pages in, but when you have a writer that relates that to real-time, it makes it a lot more interesting. Thanks again.

  50. JohninOshkosh says:

    Thanks Billy and guys!

    Now, the Blackhawks….lol.

    Avs are very fun to watch. Last night was probably the best game played in the history of the Wild. Just a blast! And some fret about MAF-try the Wild’s goaltending on for size!

    And I hope Milo continues with the “Mild” stuff. Some of his best material!

  51. Reading says:

    Wait a minute. I thought the media narrative was Franklin’s “home run,” “laying down the gauntlet,” “dominate the state at Pitt’s expense” hiring press conference. Also, how he had more energy than every single human combined. Now, there are red flags? The guy is “creepy”? Were these issues brought up at his press conference? During the Blue/White Game?

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  53. JohninOshkosh says:

    Pens will win in 5, I believe. Only took 6 to beat CBJ and they seem like a better club!

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  55. Thundercrack says:

    Yesterday on The Fan one of hosts basically came out and called Franklin a pimp who hired prostitutes.

    And all I could think was how irresponsible of a conclusion this was to jump to.

    My thought that this very well have been Franklin’s intention: When a football recruit goes back home after his visit to Vandy, I want him to be able to tell his friends “We went to the football game in a packed stadium, toured the athletic facilities, toured campus, and then went to a banquet hall where we had the most unbelievable buffet that I’ve ever seen. And 15 of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen where there telling me how much fun it is to go to Vandy”

    Maybe I’m naive. But maybe I’m right.

  56. NMR says:

    bpn/Leo – Let me ask a simple follow up:

    So what? Why should PSU care? If they truly vetted this guy and believe he’s clean, why not hire him?

    So that self-indulgent sports writers don’t judge them? Guess what guys, it just doesn’t matter.

    bpn, you were the guy who taught me everything I know, to this date, about James Franklin. So hold the reigns on any indignant “PLAY FOOTBALL” references. Franklin could be fired tomorrow and I couldn’t care less.

  57. NMR says:

    Sports talk radio gon’ do what sports talk radio gon’ do.

  58. Jandy says:


    Ok so, then, I’m one of the guys? That’s fine by me ;)

  59. JohninOshkosh says:

    :). “Guys” in the gender neutral use of the term. Like Erin Andrews uses it ad nauseam.

  60. Baywatch says:

    Morning All! Word on the street is that after the two-day rain break, the Pirates and Orioles have to play through the All-Star break. Governed by the same people who make the public school rules :-)

  61. Jandy says:

    lol thanks Oshie!

  62. 21sthebest says:

    And according to the defense attorney’s expert witnesses, that meant Adams had approximately 25-30 drinks.

  63. AJS says:

    Ya. I’m stil confused by it. But I still think she was a hostess which my have helped lead to some of the players taking liberties. The quote specifically said he went to see her to express that he cared about her well being BECAUSE SHE HAD HELPED IN RECRUITING.

    The more I think about it the more I think it was just poorly written.

    Franklin may be an arrogant egotist but I don’t take him as illogical. And it would be pretty illogical to ask a wmoan who was just raped to come expose herself to a possible repeat of that action by being a hostess for the team.

    Was it in poor taste for him to go to her 4 days after the assault and thank her for her services and see if she was OK? Maybe. It is at least a ittle touchy seing as how it mayhave been her job as a hostess that helped get her into this mess. but Franklin was likely in a catch 22 situation there. If he doesn’t go and express his regrets then he’s an inconsiderate ahole. If he goes it is viewed as inappropriate and intimidating. Maybe send a card?

    I’m more concerned about the potential NCAA violation than the inappropriate contact with the victim. Not sure how expressing regrets is inappropriate.

    Now if it does turn out she was working as a recruiter in some other capacity and he later after the assault asked her to bring in some more help and keep working. Then my attitude towards the whole thing chages. I just don’t think that interpretation makes any logial sense.

  64. Wild Bill says:

    One negative thing I will say about the Wild – that red and green color combination really sets my teeth on edge. A bad enough combination with the Devils, why in the world would anyone else want to use it?

    Almost as bad as the Boise State blue football field.

  65. AJS says:

    Why do you tar and feather penn state here? The allegations took place in Tennessee. At the time of the hiring most everyone involved was absolving him of any wrong doing. Penn State did their due dilligence and background checking. The worst thing they can be accused of is poor judgment. But tar and feather them? Wow.

  66. Jandy says:

    I know he had to have more than 1 or 2, like he said lol.

    he’s a big guy…but wow.

  67. Patrick(ri) says:

    You want “creepy?” Look no further than half of the NCAA BB semis. My guess is football may have, on balance, worse coaches(only follow headlines, I admit, but off the top of my head comes events at Fla St., Ohio St, SMU, et. al.). Knute Rockne & the Gipper are long dead. Long live giving up the academic farm for a winning program.

  68. I saw one with a red field last season, Bill. Almost as nauseating as that blue thing in Boise. Not quite.

  69. 21sthebest says:

    “If they truly vetted this guy and believe he’s clean, why not hire him?”

    Because the vetting process could be flawed and you’re on the heels of one of the worst sports scandals in history and a sexual scandal at that.

  70. theplanisworking says:


    Lvndqvist is good for 2 wins, at least.

    I agree with Jandacita…….. Pens in 7.

  71. theplanisworking says:

    Avs and Sharks ………. great regular-season teams, not so much in the playoffs. Ru-wah thankfully gone for the year.

    Amazing that there really in no weak team left in the playoffs.

  72. Jandy says:

    Amazing the Sharks were up 3 games to none…and lost 4 consecutive games. Sharks truly have the label of “chokers” more than any other team.

  73. Thundercrack says:

    Wow! No wonder Adams turned in Godzilla.

  74. NMR says:

    Completely agreed with your last paragraph.

    Starkey’s column makes a point to definitively state that that in-person meeting happened BEFORE the rape, fwiw.

    So no, Franklin did not “sit in is office alone with a girl who was raped four day’s earlier and convincing her to be a “hostess” along with some of her bootylicious girl friends.”

  75. NMR says:

    And that is certainly the risk they took.

  76. NMR says:

    Gotta bust out the “KING FOOTBALL” memes. They’d been getting dusty.

  77. theplanisworking says:

    Regarding Mr. Franklin and the PSU stuff……….

    None of know what is going on up there.
    None of us know what happened in Tennessee.

    But, by any of us voicing opinions, and discussing this topic, I don’t feel anyone is ‘jumping to conclusions’. Just pure speculation on our parts. Now what was said on the Fan yesterday was irresponsible…….. but that is the Fan…… mostly irresponsible.

    The question I continue to have is this ……… why would Penn State hire a man with this Vandy situation still under investigation? Franklin may be 100% innocent of everything, but after the Paterno/Sandusky situation, why take a chance?

    Just another head-scratcher to me.

  78. NMR says:

    Because they believe they thoroughly vetted him and believe he was the best man for the job?

  79. Andrew says:

    And the North Stars name back.

  80. Andrew says:

    Watching the first two periods, I was hoping the Flyers would win because their defense is awful. Then watching the third I had second thoughts, the Flyers forecheck can be dominating. Not that it matters now.

  81. theplanisworking says:

    That is certainly possible. Maybe probable.

    But, again, how can one say that someone is the best possible person, while he/his program is under investigation? That is the part that doesn’t make sense to me. Nothing against Franklin at all.

  82. chethejet1 says:

    The NCAA probations and fines were due to the lack of institutional control. It isn’t much of a reach to suggest that Penn State Head coach and new President not add to the pending trials of the three former employees, pending Federal damning reports of the Clery and another GJ Federal investigation.

  83. Andrew says:

    Reformers and academics have been trying to reform college sports every since they built huge concrete bowls on campus in the 1920s. There has always been a tenuous relationship between big time sports and academics, seeding recruiting and under the table compensation for players was always present, it has recently reached farcical levels due to the influx of television money.

  84. Jim S. says:

    I agree that it was poorly written, AJS. And, as you and I discussed yesterday, the timeline is not clear from the article. Unfortunately, DK does not write for the Tennessean. If he did, we would not have this blog to visit every day, but at least that story would have been written much more clearly. :-)

    As for Franklin showing his concern, I don’t think there is anything wrong with that if he does it in the right manner. We are talking about a young woman who had been assaulted by multiple men four days earlier, and I think he had to know pretty clearly at that point who the men were and what happened. There was video evidence, right?

    It seems odd to me that his concern was framed in the context of “because she helped in recruiting.” How about, he was concerned because she was someone he knew and it appears she was brutally assaulted by young men on his team? That statement makes it appear that he was only concerned for her because she helped him.

    I stand by my statement that contacting her directly was a big mistake. If he wanted to show concern, there were better ways. Maybe he could have sent a note to her family, and asked that they express his concern for him. Maybe he could have just sent the note directly to her.

    I am amazed that the school / legal counsel would not have instructed him to avoid any face-to-face contact with her at that time. I don’t see how anything good could have come from that meeting. To understand that, I would say just try to think of that girl as your sister, wife, daughter, niece, cousin, friend. Would you really want the guy who spends all of his working life coaching the guys who did that to be contacting her four days after that brutal assault? That is what I mean by poor judgment, at the very least, on his part. It could very well be that his intentions were above board, but if he met with her I think it was immediately a bad decision. If she and her lawyer are lying about the meeting, or about any of this, then he should be cleared and receive a public apology.

    Still, though, I can’t get past the part about asking her to recruit 15 “pretty” friends to help with recruiting. I’m not even speaking of that sort of request of her from an NCAA sanctions standpoint so much as I just find it creepy and way out of line. In my opinion, any adult man, especially one with daughters of his own, who asks a college girl to get 15 of her “pretty” friends to help him recruit players to his program is of questionable intent. I don’t see any way around that. It’s just a creepy request, and I would not want a 40+ year old authority figure on campus anywhere near my daughter if that was his attitude toward women. When you couple that with his comment about only hiring assistants with “hot” wives, I don’t think it is unfair to question this man’s priorities and character.

    Again, if all of these allegations are made up, then Franklin needs to cleared and he deserves a formal apology from that lawyer. And, the lawyer should be sanctioned severely for that sort of behavior. But, there are questions here that can’t just be dismissed so easily in my mind. I am hopeful that Franklin is cleared of any wrongdoing. Hopefully, we’ll find that out in time.

  85. radio wave says:

    Look at Rangers stats for pp and pk, not good. Hank will have to stand on his head four games. And I’m lol about the Sharks.

  86. Jim S. says:

    +++, 21.

    If they missed something in the vetting process, the stakes are incredibly high for PSU after what happened over the previous few years with their program.

  87. theplanisworking says:

    This is for NMR ……… because I don’t want him to think I am against Franklin, or PSU at all ……………….

    How about that Tigers bullpen?
    And will Polanco be up in time to face them? ;) ;) ;)

  88. Jandy says:

    I hope you are right, Oshie!

  89. Jandy says:

    I’ve been laughing about the Sharks since last night … amazing choke…again…

  90. Thundercrack says:

    Plan, yesterday when NMR asked the question what exactly was Franklin guilty of regarding these new ‘allegations’

    Your response was:

    ‘My guess is witness tampering? Possible intimidation?
    I don’t think Franklin was allowed to contact her after she reported the assault. Or not.’

    Just to clear this up for me, are you saying that is what you believe he did or what other could be alleging that he did?
    Because at first I thought you were jumping to a conclusion. Now I am not sure.

  91. Jim S. says:


    There’s a reason he apparently admitted to her that the practice is not allowed.

    Sadly, it’s a short walk from hiring 15 pretty girls to make kids feel good about a school to hiring prostitutes to make sure they feel good about a school. That has happened, as we know.

    I am not saying that was Franklin’s intent at all. In fact, as I keep saying, I don’t think he has admitted to even saying that to her. If her story is fabricated, then he has been unfairly accused and should be cleared. He may have never even discussed such a thing with her. I hope that is the case. But, if he did, it was out of line for a head football coach to be asking that of a female college student.

  92. You have all likely heard as well about JameisWinston being charged with shoplifting $32.00 worth of crabs’ legs from the local Publix Supermarket in Tallahassee, Florida, and his being suspended from the Florida State baseball team and being sentenced in court to do public service. But then, that is the least of the crazy stories that have lately been coming out of the sports world.

  93. NMR says:

    “To understand that, I would say just try to think of that girl as your sister, wife, daughter, niece, cousin, friend. Would you really want the guy who spends all of his working life coaching the guys who did that to be contacting her four days after that brutal assault?”

    Seems to me you’re implying guilt by association.

    “If she and her lawyer are lying about the meeting, or about any of this, then he should be cleared and receive a public apology.”

    The victim and her lawyer aren’t making these allegations, Jim. The deffendant and his lawyer are.

    Lotta misinformation going around right now.

  94. NMR says:

    And fwiw, I have a college-age neice. If she had some sort of relationship with a coach and football department, was raped, and then heard absolutely nothing from them I would be absolutely furious.

  95. NMR says:

    It is not HER story, Jim.

  96. JohninOshkosh says:


    The Pirates really need to play a damn game, methinks. Get away from this stuff.

  97. NMR says:

    Hey buddy, right now I wouldn’t be surprised if Polanco would improve the Tigers Bullpen and the Tigers Bullpen would improve the Pirates offense!

    PS – This is certainly not an us vs them conversation regarding Franklin/PSU, IMO. At least not for me. I appreciate and respect your comments.

  98. Dom says:

    If the Flyers dont win the cup next year, 40 would have passed since the last time they have.

  99. theplanisworking says:

    I really don’t know the ins and outs of the law, in regards to contacting the girl in his office. I always thought that if you contacted a victim, or witness after a crime was reported, that was illegal, except for the victims’ own attorney.

    That is why I said I guess it could be witness tampering. Or it might not be, I really don’t know. I certainly am not passing judgement on the situation. I just found it odd he talked to her at all.

    Hopefully for all involved, this turns out to be nothing.
    I am just afraid this could drag out a long time……….. which would be a shame.

  100. Bizrow says:


  101. NMR says:

    I don’t think there is any doubt that PSU wants to be good at football, and they felt this guy gave them the best chance at that.

    I’m not necessarilly agreeing with their logic, but they’ve done nothing wrong even if Franklin does turn out to be shown in a negative light. Their only risk is public perception.

  102. Andrew says:

    The Penguins current penalty kill might be a cure-all for the Rangers PP struggles.

  103. theplanisworking says:

    Thanks. Even if I have no earthly clue as to what is going on with the Franklin situation ………..

    I just know my % went down for mentioning Polanco. ;)

  104. NMR says:

    Stinks! ;)

  105. cobra39 says:

    Guys, those two alleged events occured at different times. Franklin has never been accused of asking her to do specific recruiting actions during their meeting after the alleged assault.

  106. Jandy says:

    I don’t mind a bit, Dom :)

  107. Jandy says:

    LOL yinz crack me up ;)

  108. Thundercrack says:

    Thanks for the reply and clarification.

    I think where Franklin is looking to get a pass for contacting the girl was that he and his wife knew the girl. And I guess considered her a friend. And he feels he didn’t do anything improper…or that wasn’t his intentions.

  109. cobra39 says:

    Rangers will have played 3 playoff games in four nights by the time Friday night is over.

    We need to exploit that advantage. Game 1 is near must-win.

  110. Jandy says:

    that is a valid point Andrew.

  111. theplanisworking says:

    This whole situation just shows that one can never be too sure about anything. I am sure Franklin thought he was doing nothing wrong. But, whenever attorneys get involved ……………………

  112. Dom says:

    To be fair, though, I will say Tina fey is better than any comedian from Pittsburgh.

    They got us beat in that regard.

  113. cobra39 says:

    I like the Wild’s white jersey unis. They look sharp to me.

  114. Jim S. says:

    NMR, how am I implying “guilt by association” by asking people to imagine themselves in a similar situation and ask themselves if they would want that coach meeting with their loved one? It seems to me a lot of people are assuming only good intentions on the part of the coach for having that alleged meeting. All I said was that if he initiated such contact, it was a bad idea on his part. I see nothing that says it wasn’t.

    My mistake on who raised the allegations, NMR. I thought the story of the meeting came from her attorney. But, the defendant would have had to have gotten it from somewhere, though, as he would not have been at that meeting. Did his attorney just make it up? As I have said, if that story is fabricated, we need to know that.

  115. Jim S. says:

    You would want the coach to meet with her 4 days later, while she was being examined by a doctor, and tell her that he wanted to express his concern because she had helped him with recruiting?

    You wouldn’t say, “That coach may be part of the problem. He may side with his players because he needs them for his job, and he may now be trying to intimidate my niece. I don’t want him talking to her right now.” ??

    I would not want him anywhere near her.

  116. chethejet1 says:

    Pens beat the blue shirts and the Habs beat the Broons, Pens may well go to the SC final. Doesn’t alter my view of Bylsma in any way, Just that sometimes stuff happens.

  117. Milo Hamilton says:

    I was in 5th grade the last time the Flyers won the cup. I’m 50.

  118. Dom says:

    Do you remember seeing them win?

  119. Sarah says:

    Much depends on injuries IMO.
    I don’t see it going 7 if Sutter and Vitale are healthy, and Orpik is not….
    But anything is possible with this team!!!

  120. NMR says:

    Jim, once again, he did not meet with her four days after the investigation, he called her. And there was no indication that he had any idea where she’d be when he called her, let alone that she was at the Doctors.

    He called to express his condolences, and none of us know exactly what he said or why he said it during that time.

    It is guilt by association because there would be no reason, in my mind, to NOT want the coach to call otherwise. Again, if Franklin had some sort of a relationship with her prior to the incident, why WOULDN’T he call to express his condolances after she’d been raped?

  121. Sarah says:

    Yeah I think they could win it in 5 depending which version of the team decides to show up.
    And that schedule is unfair to NYR. Bettman is a moron, but what else is new?

  122. Milo Hamilton says:

    Sure. I’ll confess something to you Dom, I liked them. I even rooted for them. I loved that Broad Street Bullies thing. But then I got older & wiser. Now, I just mock them.

  123. Patrick(RI) says:

    +++ I do seem to recall some pretty girls swirling around Pat O’Brien & Ronald R. in the movie! 1935?

  124. Leo Walter says:

    In my opinion only NMR,because of the fact that whether guilty or not,there was bound to be a ton of scrutiny, with many negative opinions formed whether they are warranted or not.Myself,though not a fan of PSU prior to the scandal,I have been really positive about the program once I saw what Bill O’Brien was doing there. I just think they would have been better off getting someone in there with no baggage at all, particularly any connection to a sex scandal. Make any sense ?

  125. Leo Walter says:

    Plus plus plus osh !

  126. theplanisworking says:

    Philthy losing last night was not the only instance of a franchise in turmoil.

    Mike D’Antoni ‘resigned’ as coach of the Lakers.
    Want to talk about a hot mess of a franchise? The next coach will be the 4th in 3 years. Kobe is still injured, and who knows what he will be like when he returns at his age. Nash probably is done. Ownership is a mess, with Jim and Jeannie Buss seemingly going in different directions. Phil is in New York.

    Didn’t the Lakers win the Title 3 or 4 years ago?

  127. JohninOshkosh says:

    Grace Kelly was from Philly. Nuff said.

  128. I would hope that Penn State wouldn’t have to fire James Franklin since it’ s hard enough these days to replace a coach and to keep one once he or she has been hired. And as for PSU’s hiring James Franklin in the first place, well, Bill O’Brien had just quit after only two years to go back to the NFL and Franklin looked and sounded attractive enough since he’d brought success to previously moribund Vanderbilt. And then, PSU had had only one coach in 50 or so years with JoePa and they weren’t used to having to shop around every so often for another coach.

  129. JohninOshkosh says:

    Magic Johnson needs to shut his trap for awhile.

  130. JohninOshkosh says:

    Oh, and Plan, I figured out the Bucks and Sixers seasons. They were just protesting Donald Sterling.

  131. NMR says:

    Absolutely, Leo! And I appreciate the thoughtful response.

    I just wonder how much value they put on scrutiny?

  132. Wild Bill says:

    Looked at the schedule, and not only have the Rangers just played three games in four nights, but starting tomorrow, they have to do the same thing against the Pens: Friday, Sunday and Monday.

  133. theplanisworking says:


    Now THAT is funny!

    Ironic thing about Sterling…….. no other organization in sports hired as many minorities than the Clippers. I am talking coaches/Gm’s, etc. …………. but Sterling was a complete bigot and fool. With a history.

  134. Jandy says:

    Good catch, Wild One!

  135. lupesanchez says:

    You must not read the P-G. Pitiful coverage of anything PSU, unless it has to do with the actual games, or a bizarre one sided article about a group of people who want to put up a JoePa reading the classics on a park bench statue.

  136. JohninOshkosh says:

    Manny Machado will not play in game 1.

  137. likeabugonarug says:

    One thing to remember regarding Philly Inq. Franklin is from this area, and was a coach in this area.

    I hate psu. That being said, so there is no confusion as to where I’m coming from:

    I don’t see an issue with Franklin contacting her and checking up on her, if she did actually work with him or the team or the athletic dept. I don’t know enough about him to know his feelings, and how important football is to him vs. life, but if she was in some capacity working with him I would hope he would check up on her. Now, in hindsight, the smart thing to do would’ve been to have someone else on the line with him so nothing could be misconstrued, but if he didn’t do anything wrong he probably never felt that was necessary. Besides, for all we know, he could feel worse for her and be willing to help her vs. those players on his team. We just don’t know.

    But yes, psu better hope nothing comes up, especially after the issues around their recent choice for President.


  138. Wild Bill says:

    Is there actually baseball today???

  139. JohninOshkosh says:

    Ha! I sure hope so, Bill.

  140. Wild Bill says:

    Six games in nine days for the Blueshirts – if we don’t take advantage of that, we deserve to not move on.

  141. Naje says:

    Bucs are back from their bye week…

  142. Naje says:

    Not to be mistaken for their lineup basically taking a bye for the month of April.

  143. Naje says:

    Milo: Derby time… won last year with a $1 exacta and had money on Golden Soul as well… who ya’ liking this year? Tough to bet against Cali Chrome….

  144. Dom says:

    Should we have drafted him instead of Taillon?

  145. Jim S. says:

    Where do you think the story originated, if not from her?

  146. NMR says:

    Oh snap! ;)

  147. Naje says:

    Already had Alvarez and needed more arms at the time.

  148. NMR says:

    If you’re not a Flyers fan as a child you have no heart. If you’re not a Penguins fan by adulthood you have no brain.

  149. 21sthebest says:

    Could have used a shortstop at the time too.

  150. Naje says:

    Could have… but who cares now? Machado would have been a great choice and Taillon can be, too… by all accounts, he is. The team had a terrible pitching staff for a long time. Building the arms and getting as many good arms as they could was the priority in the first four or so years of NH’s drafts.

  151. 21sthebest says:

    “Could have… but who cares now? ”


    I understand what the priority was/is. Personally, I think Machado could have been a shortstop like none other in the division. I like Taillon a lot too. But using hindsight I’d say we’d be better off right now with Machado. And that could change.

  152. Jandy says:

    And where’s the yellow brick road? Is Dejan the Wizard of DaBurgh? ;)

  153. Jim S. says:

    I’m with you, 21. I was never as high on Taillon as I was on Cole. It is hard to get it right with prep pitchers in Rd. 1 IMO. I don’t really fault the Bucs for taking him, because I think it looks like he’ll be a good pitcher. But, he would not have been my choice.

    I always liked Machado. I assume he’ll be back at 100%. If he is, he has a chance to be one of the top position players in the game IMO. Looks to be a really good defender and hitter.

  154. BillyBaduka says:

    Great use of Oscar Wilde quote NMR.

  155. NMR says:

    What we’ve heard thus far is the Defense team’s account of what happened, correct?

  156. Jandy says:

    I hope he wins!

  157. Jandy says:

    From the Pens’ website:

    Defenseman Brooks Orpik was the only player absent from the team’s Thursday practice at CONSOL Energy Center. He missed Games 5 and 6 against Columbus with an undisclosed injury.

    Per Penguins’ playoff policy, head coach Dan Bylsma did not give any updated information on his or any other injured players’ statuses.

    Forward Brian Gibbons (undisclosed) did participate. He has been out of the lineup since leaving Game 2 of their opening-round series against Columbus.

    The Penguins used the following workflow…


    The seven defensemen rotated their pairings, but the initial six duos looked like this…


    PP1: Niskanen, Martin, Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz
    PP2: Maatta, Letang, Jokinen, Neal, Sutter

  158. Jim S. says:

    Book it.

  159. Jim S. says:

    Very strange. I think Elgin Baylor was his GM forever, wasn’t he?

  160. Jim S. says:

    I’ll take Dennis Miller over Tina Fey on the comedy scale.

    She looks better, though.

  161. Dom says:

    How about the Kings coming back from 3-0 to win the series?

    They could be one of the great sports stories if they win the cup.

  162. Dom says:

    That’s twice in two years, right?

  163. TK says:

    For 20 years.

    Sterling fired him.

    Baylor sued.

  164. Bizrow says:


  165. Jandy says:

    Holy Shuttlecocks, Batman!


  166. Dom says:

    So he’ll be available if the Pens fire Bylsma then…

  167. BillyBaduka says:

    Thanks Jandy, with phasing I thought they might be playing Laser Tag.

  168. Jim S. says:

    Nice, Dom!

  169. BillyBaduka says:

    “The Penguins used the following workflow…”

    Workflow? Think they meant lineup. Never heard it called workflow before.

    Maybe the author was writing software specifications or requirements and multitasking.

    The lineup is more analogous to configurations than workflow. Workflow would be “who’s should be F3 at a given time”.

    Excuse me, a very rare, very slow day for me at work (which is software) and workflow flows off the tongue around here more readily than hello.

  170. Sarah says:

    As will SJ’s McLelland….

  171. theplanisworking says:

    And Baylor lost.
    Incredible, huh?

  172. cobra39 says:

    Why did you steal my name?

  173. cobra39 says:

    Ollie Matta a fixture on PP2 and no one bats an eye. What an amazing year for a ROOKIE d-man.

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