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First pitch: Pirates-Dodgers

By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Looking ahead to first pitch …

Game: Pirates (23-29) vs. Los Angeles Dodgers (29-25)

Time: 10:10 p.m.

Site: Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles

TV, Radio: Root Sports, 93.7 The Fan

Here’s the official live box score.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page and our Bucco Blog. Rob Biertempfel is on the scene for the Trib.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Maz in Iowa says:

    Firsties.Sorry can’t help being a bit childish. :)

  2. Maz in Iowa says:

    Barmes at SS.Same line up with Harrison leading off.Sorry Tabby fans

  3. Maz in Iowa says:

    Question:Are they showcasing Harrison OR do they see him as a better player/leadoff than Tabata?

  4. Ride the hot horse.

    The question is, after a 1/11 Mets series, how hot is JHay?

    The opposite of Global Warming seems to be happening to Harrison recently.

  5. Brandie says:

    Unfortunately Groats n Honey. BTW…Job is going well.

  6. Maz in Iowa says:

    Next question.If the Pirates are 10-12 games out of WC contention after the All Star break are they sellers?

  7. Carlos Danger says:

    Hey DK – are you able to link your discussion with MM regarding polanco? I missed it live and I know you linked the conversation yesterday on your twitter account.

  8. Maz in Iowa says:

    Offer for the Clippers for 2 BILLION!Maybe it’s time to sell the Pirates!Please!Please!

  9. Bizrow says:

    Thanks for the thoughts on our Lunatic Nation List.
    So we’ll try posting it three times a week, on game threads, Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday.
    I can post referrals to those times along with what we are doing instead of the whole darn list.
    I would get too discombubilated if I tried to split it up.
    One request, if you see a new poster, remind them to check the list out.

    So it starts tonight, but there will be variations, next week we visit Demon Dachshund and his family, so no posts next Thursday or Sunday.

    What, I’m going to go to Austin and take my computer to post? I think I will spend the time with DD/Mrs DD and the granddaughters ;-)

    Beat em Bucs

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  11. Bizrow says:

    Yes they are

  12. JohninOshkosh says:


    From the other thread. I have my fingers crossed for the Pacers. Unlike many, I don’t have any problems with James-or his move to Miami. I do, however, think the Pacers have one of the great, knowledgeable fan bases in all of sports. For that reason, I hope they get a chance to play for the title.

    The other series is very interesting. Don’t recall one player like Serge Ibaka rattling a veteran team. Gregg Popovich is one of the great coaches to walk the sidelines. But, his team is aging and, if they falter this playoffs, the great Popovich’s legacy will forever be uneven. Thunder is hungry and have the Pitt connection.

    Sure hope the Bucks get Parker. I think the Cavs will go with Joel Embiid and, hopefully, the Bucks will pass on Andrew Wiggins in favor of the fabulous Blue Devil.

    Also agree with you regarding King Henry. Neither, the Midwesterners or the glitterati from Hollywood will find it easy to score on him. Finals will be much closer than people think. Of course, I live among the Western Conference fan base and their sense of superiority is breathtaking, quite frankly.

  13. Bizrow says:

    Now that is owners monopoly money

  14. Maz in Iowa says:

    Found this in an Urban Dictionary: yinzer
    A resident of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Known for their love of all things Steelers and Donnie Iris and extreme hatred of Cleveland. Consists mainly on Primanti Brothers and ethnic cuisine. Yinzers can be easily identified by their one-of-a-kind, ridiculous accent.

  15. Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    He’s not anymore.

    It was fun while it lasted and I tip my hat to J, but that’s all she wrote.

    No way are they showcasing him.

  16. Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:


  17. Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    They forgot hatred for Bob Nutting and Pirates management in general

  18. Lad 9 says:

    Tonight’s lineups from Chavez Ravine, where our intrepid Buccos attempt to break a nine game losing skein in which they have scored ten, yes count em TEN runs against the Luv Ya Blues. I hope we knock them into the Pacific….


    Gerrit Cole (R)

    1. Josh Harrison (R) RF
    2. Neil Walker (S) 2B
    3. Andrew McCutchen (R) CF
    4. Ike Davis (L) 1B
    5. Russell Martin (R) C
    6. Pedro Alvarez (L) 3B
    7. Starling Marte (R) LF
    8. Clint Barmes (R) SS
    9. Gerrit Cole (R) P


    Dan Haren (R)

    1. Dee Gordon (L) 2B
    2. Andre Ethier (L) CF
    3. Yasiel Puig (R) RF
    4. Hanley Ramirez (R) SS
    5. Adrian Gonzalez (L) 1B
    6. Matt Kemp (R) LF
    7. Justin Turner (R) 3B
    8. Tim Federowicz (R) C
    9. Dan Haren (R) P

  19. Polanco 0-2 so far tonight.

    Former Pirate Andy LaRoche is DHing for Buffalo tonight against Indy. His BA is .204. Talk about AAA filler. Got to feel for the guy.

  20. Lad 9 says:


  21. Thanks LAD. Wonder if Haren’s ever thrown a no-hitter. Probably not many shutouts either. Hopefully.

  22. Lad 9 says:

    Thanks Biz. Will keep an eye for new posters as I can. Will have to rely on Jandy during the day, which is always a good strategy.

  23. Reading says:

    Time for some late night BUCN. … Oh wait. That was last year.

  24. Lad 9 says:

    You are very welcome Lucky. Haren has never tossed a no-no and he has six career shutouts, none since 2012. And for any who don’t believe the ballpark is a factor, he is threatening to post a career low ERA at age 32 after two lousy years.

  25. Reading says:

    Probably a good 0-2 though with two lasers right at people. Or two bombs caught above the outfield wall.

  26. JohninOshkosh says:

    Sterling bought the Clippers for 12 million and walks away with 2 billion.

    Nah, it’s ridiculous for the fan base to expect even a modicum of deficit spending during the few precious years the Pirates have legitimate playoff expectations.

  27. 0-3 now. The third one was a line out, first two fly balls.

    I believe he wiped sweat from his brow and brushed a bug off his arm, too.

  28. The Gunner says:

    Geez, LaRoche hit .258 in 150 games for the Bucs in 2009 while he kept the seat warm for Pedro. The law of averages is on Pedro’s side, don’t you think?

  29. Maz in Iowa says:

    Nutting paid 92 million in 1996 for the Bucs and Forbes values it at 572 million in March of this year.Comments?

  30. cmat0829 says:

    I think it would take quite a feat for this team to be 10-12 games back of a WILDCARD by the ASB. They play too well at home and I think a team would have to be 15 games under .500 to be that far back and I can’t see that. But hey, they are capable the way they played in NY…..

    I think they can be sellers without being that far back…. problem is the pieces that have the most value (Liriano, Martin) aren’t exactly distinguishing themselves. Grilli/Melancon will bring back negligible value, as we’ve seen time and time again at the ASB in terms of closers/bullpen arms. Won’t stop some of us from being unreasonable in terms of expected return, however.

  31. Arriba Wilver says:

    Nutting paid a $1 mil loan to Kevin McClatchy in 1996.

  32. cmat0829 says:

    is any of this an actual surprise to ANYONE? Sports is big business. Huge asset valuation explosion backed primarily by media $$s. Doesn’t mean that pretty much every owner still will run each year to make a profit. And that very much includes the teams that spend a ton on payroll, let’s be clear, the Dodgers/Yankees/Angels etc are not deficit spending.

    The only problem baseball has is that the owners havent forced the players into accepting a salary cap and salary floor and a reasonable salary structure and system. It would be best for competitive balance and for the league all around. Donald Sterling was 5000 times worse of an owner than Bob Nutting will ever be… and this has nothing to do that he is an old senile racist… THAT said, the salary cap/ floor system pretty much FORCED the Clippers to actually field competitive teams, despite the ‘slum lord’ way that Sterling preferred to operate in.

    Not sure why the debate is always on Nutting when it should be on baseball adopting a true competitive balance salary system.

  33. cmat0829 says:

    Have to say I’m not surprised, but still amazed, by the stat that the Pirates have lost 9 straight at Dodger Stadium and have scored a grand total of TEN runs in those games. Mind-numbing. Sad thing is I think they were in quite a few of those games, I recall some close losses with some good pitching wasted.

    The deck seems to be stacked against this team… poor on road this season, coming off a mess of 2 games vs. Mets, long trip West, and the true House of Horrors… I can only hope that this is the Baseball Gods version of piling on and we get some sort of mercy in this series…. I will watch, if only in a ‘stare at the car accident’ sort of way…..

  34. The Gunner says:

    That’s an average annual growth rate of approximately 10% per year as the value of the team has increased by 6 times. During the same period, the S & P 500 has increased in value by 3 times.

    Based on that, Skinflint Nutsack has done pretty well.

  35. Arriba Wilver says:

    No, it’s not a surprise to anyone.

    The owners tried “forcing” a salary cap system in 1994 and then chickened out. They haven’t even whispered any interest since. More likely that the players may ask for it at this point perhaps. I believe they are collectively getting a smaller piece of the overall pie than the “capped” sports. But that won’t happen, either, because of history.

    Most people agree that a capped system would be fairer, but they don’t run MLB or the Union. If there’s anything more useless than complaining about Nutting, it’s complaining there is no cap. IMO

  36. Arriba Wilver says:

    Daq—you at the game?

  37. Carlos Danger says:

    That is a pretty sweet return on investment. And also a pretty sweet name. Might need to change my blog handle.

  38. Bizrow says:

    Thanks Lad

    I’ll write a note tomorrow. Jandy is always a big help

  39. Carlos Danger says:

    Off topic but I was just watching the Bo Jackson 30 for 30 and he said “God blessed me the speed that I can run like a spooked deer. He blessed me with great hand-eye coordination. He blessed me with the arm like a high-powered rifle. And with all those tangibles, you’ve gotta be successful at something. You gotta be successful at something that you do. My niche fell on the baseball and football field.” I thought it was a good quote. Those shows are great.

  40. Thundercrack says:

    I have no idea how that franchise is worth that much.

  41. Bizrow says:

    Well, I love all things of Pittsburgh and Cleveland??

    If they ever get a professional football team, I’ll get back to you

  42. Arriba Wilver says:

    That’s actually false, Ryan. People who support Nutting and Pirates management almost religiously are also called yinzers.

  43. Bizrow says:


    Sterling is the worst owner, ever

  44. Bizrow says:

    Ok, hidden vigorish, we are due

  45. cmat0829 says:

    Cutch has every right to be frustrated, but if he continues to swing at those pitches outside and low and give the pitchers easy outs, he will continue to get them. I know it is frustrating but if they are pitching to walk him, he needs to take the walk.

  46. Carlos Danger says:

    And in case anyone missed yesterday’s MM-DK discussion –

  47. Bizrow says:

    Crap a triple

  48. Thundercrack says:

    Why does Wehner think that was a good throw from Walker?

  49. Carlos Danger says:

    Final DK plug. Unless I’m included on the next payroll. Please forgive me if you have all seen or heard these. I’m not on twitter but sometimes look at DKs page and thought others might do the same.

  50. Bizrow says:

    Regarding the Urban dictionary definition of yinzer, lets add a few of our own?

    Steel City?

    All of the folks that log on here?

    Melting Pot of America?

  51. The Gunner says:

    Brooklyn cashes in quickly

  52. Bizrow says:

    So lets get back to the game, crappy hit by Puig, down 1-0

  53. Carlos Danger says:

    I hoped you would see that.

  54. JohninOshkosh says:

    When did the Trib put video launches on the blog ?

  55. Bizrow says:

    Wow I remember when they moved and played at the Coluseum

  56. Milo Hamilton says:

    I don’t know but they’re a royal pain.

  57. The Gunner says:

    Me too. Wally Moon played “screeno” with the short porch (250 ft.) in LF.

  58. Carlos Danger says:

    My bad if I caused that heartburn. They show up as just a link on my phone.

  59. cmat0829 says:

    Thanks for posting… just listened to it all… Madden is slightly entertaining as he slobbers all over the microphone… he doesn’t let facts get in the way, so he is definitely built for a radio ‘personality’ type of role. To me the best point I liked Dejan made was that in many ways the Polanco thing is more “symbolic” than it is baseball reality based…. there is no doubt Polanco COULD help this team but some level of lunacy that he would have reversed the fortunes of this team.

    that said, I can definitely get behind the ‘fan’ in Madden’s rants… it is frustrating to watch this team struggle and to not be able to have Polanco up here and in RF on a daily basis.

  60. Carlos Danger says:

    El toro!

  61. Steelag70 says:


  62. cmat0829 says:

    i turned off the audio.. if i have to hear the video restart again I am going to throw my PC at the wall. I reserve that action to when the Pirates throw the ball around the diamond ….

  63. Bizrow says:

    Yup, there was a screen/net there, like Forbes, but the wall was 300 ft at FF

    I remember that fans could bring beer to the games, I remember a picture in the Press, some drunk climbing up the screen

  64. The Gunner says:

    Let’s hope this is the start of #24 getting real hot!!

  65. cmat0829 says:

    PEDRO , had to rewind and watch it again, actually put a good swing on an offspeed pitch and ‘hammered’ that one out of there…. interesting to see Puig just not move a muscle on that one… I know that was a no brainer but I think if I’m the pitcher I want him at least to turn and make a few steps back on that. Puig is Carlos Gomez, Jr.

    Nice to see Marte take a perfect swing on that slowpitch softball junk Haren offers up there… and Barmes too.

  66. Carlos Danger says:

    Understood. No more links. Got it. Sorry guys!

  67. Milo Hamilton says:

    No, not you Carlos. The one at the top. It starts over every time you refresh the page, and good luck trying to listen to something else.

  68. Maz in Iowa says:

    Hits for Pedro/Marte/Marte…. WTH!!!!!

  69. cmat0829 says:

    OK, time for some fun… Neverett/Wehner pairing tonight… so…. OVER/UNDER on the combination of:

    Neverett using the term “hammered” and Wehner saying “goodness Gracious”.

    I’ll set the bar at 8. And I’ll take over.

  70. Maz in Iowa says:

    Oops Barmes

  71. cmat0829 says:

    not you carlos danger, I really appreciated your link of the Madden slobber-fest with Dejan. It’s the embedded link of 24/7 in the neighborhood Hyatt spewing over and over again that is causing me to hurl.

  72. Carlos Danger says:

    And gals!

  73. cmat0829 says:

    that last post sponsored by Wayne’s World.

  74. Bizrow says:

    OK, thanks to Pedro, we are eyeballing them

    Lost 9 in a row, hidden vigorish, but not a good start to the bottom of the 2nd

  75. chethejet1 says:

    How does Hardin stay in the big leagues? Really throws some lollipops up there. Polanco adds some speed and pop and Francisco gets back to a very good form, Bucs may be entertaining again.

  76. Milo Hamilton says:


  77. cmat0829 says:

    A sacrifice bunt with the PITCHER coming up!!! Did Hurdle signal that one in by accident??

  78. Reading says:

    Like Karen with an H.

  79. cmat0829 says:

    Haren, like Colon, knows where his pitches are going (for the most part) and has enough movement and deception to keep it respectable. It’s the opposite of what ails some of the Pirates pitchers this year… they have great ‘stuff’ but can’t locate it to save their lives (Liriano/Morris/Morton at times/Volquez, etc.).

  80. Arriba Wilver says:

    I actually think the least bad pairing for Tim is Wehner (not to be confused with Carlos Danger).

    At least there’s some actual baseball talk. :-)

  81. Carlos Danger says:

    Just due to the fan shots on Root sports, I would be afraid to wear a pirates jersey at an away game in case I got caught in a George Costanza-like moment.

  82. I think DK did that to harass us. Refresh to Rob every time. Mercy.

  83. Milo Hamilton says:

    I spent one glorious afternoon at Dodger Stadium some years back. Glorious that is if you ignore the 4 homers that Sean Burnett coughed up.

  84. wvstarship says:

    Know it’s off topic, but here goes: Congrats to the wretched NY Rangers for going to the Stanley Cup Finals.

  85. chethejet1 says:

    Wally Moon had the section of RF in Crosley Field as the Moon roof years ago. CF had the Vada Pinson incline which I never understood the reasoning for that.

  86. cmat0829 says:

    i dont disagree… i like Rock… goodness Gracious I do… especially love when Cole throws a lot of “schhtrikes” for him to analyze…

  87. Bizrow says:

    If either of them say ” a low fly ball”, well I’m all in

  88. Florida Steeler says:

    Good to watch the Dodgers telecast instead of all those stupid ROOT people shots.

  89. Maz in Iowa says:

    Another game where the starting pitching leaves the offense to work from behind

  90. Bizrow says:

    I hope they get toasted in 4 ;-)

  91. Bizrow says:

    Cole not exactly being an Ace tonight?

  92. Carlos Danger says:

    I feel like wehner changed the pronunciation like in Young Frankenstein when he was pronouncing in Fronkensteen.

  93. The Gunner says:


    Wally Moon never played for Cincinnati; did you mean Wally Post?

  94. Milo Hamilton says:

    He hit “Moon Shots” onto the short porch at the Mausoleum in LA.

  95. cmat0829 says:

    Interesting nugget Neverett just whiffed on…. saying that Vin Scully missed calling the Beckett no-hitter because of Bronchitis… what he meant to say was that Vin Scully stopped doing road trips outside of California or Arizona about 3 or 4 years ago…and since Beckett’s no-no was at the Linc in Philly, it never was gonna be called by Vin, bronchtitis caused by the hotel air conditioner (?) or not. But let’s not let facts get in the way of a good Neverett sound bite.

  96. The Gunner says:

    Screeno as the ol’ Gunner used to say

  97. Carlos Danger says:

    That’s awesome. So he just missed it by 3-4 years. So close. Tough break.

  98. Carlos Danger says:

    As much as I think whoever wins the west should win the cup, lundquist can be a huge challenge for any team. His performance will be the key factor in the finals. IMHO.

  99. Florida Steeler says:

    Vin Scully just told a neat story about Hurdle and the number 64.

  100. cmat0829 says:

    vin is a treasure, wonderful story teller…

  101. cmat0829 says:

    If it werent for the recent Nationals series, where I saw it with my own eyes, I’d have sworn Adam LaRoche and Ike Davis were the same person.

  102. Bizrow says:

    Scully is 86, IMO much sharper still than Neveeitt

    I’ll betcha when I am 86, I won’t be able to spell CAT

    (Joke Dallas’s henderson in a superbowl vs Mr Terry Bradshaw)

  103. Milo Hamilton says:

    Dee Gordon Liddy.

  104. Arriba Wilver says:

    I’m not going to defend his pronunciation. ;-)

  105. Arriba Wilver says:

    Or grammar.

  106. chethejet1 says:

    I seem to remember the RF at Crosley being called the Moon roof and was under the impression Wally Moon had something to do with that.

  107. Milo Hamilton says:

    Nah, LaRoche does more than walk & hit soft singles.

  108. Bizrow says:

    Looks like we are snake bit again so far tonight

    Good tidings

  109. cmat0829 says:

    So far, and I’m biased, but Haren is getting calls and Cole is not. A few pitches last inning were obvious strikes and called balls for Gerrit…and Haren is getting all borderline calls. Umps can do whatever they want, but please be consistent.

  110. Milo Hamilton says:

    Just looked it up Chet. The trapezoid shaped right field seating section was known as the sun deck, and the moon deck for night games. But alas, Wally Moon only played for the Cards & Dodgers.

  111. cmat0829 says:

    yah but even the swings resemble each other..yes, Ike has to rediscover his power but just by the eye test they look a ton alike

  112. cmat0829 says:

    Who is supposed to be the Dodger’s 3Bman? with that payroll, can’t imagine Jacob Turner is their intended starter is he??

  113. Andrew says:

    Uribe went the to the DL.

  114. Maz in Iowa says:

    I wish the Bucs were playing as well as Houston

  115. Karen22 says:

    You rang?

  116. cmat0829 says:

    ok, next question, with that payroll, Uribe can’t be the starting 3bman the Dodgers intended, is it?

  117. Reading says:


  118. Carlos Danger says:

    That was clutch. Or was it lack of lack of clutch? Wasn’t sure where that discussion ended.

  119. Arriba Wilver says:

    JHay still hot. At least warm.

    Clint’s a genius.

  120. cmat0829 says:

    JayHey good piece of hitting…and there’s PUIG being Puig… ill-advised throw home allows Harrison to get into scoring position for walker….Make em pay, Neil!!!!

  121. cmat0829 says:

    nope, walker (not sure how) swings and misses through an 84 mph changeup middle of the zone…. 2-2 halfway home.

  122. JHay in the clutch again. (although there is no such thing as clutch).

  123. Andrew says:

    That is a good question, at the beginning of the season the bigger joke was Dee Gordon, but somehow he has figured a way to make quality contact and get on base.

  124. cmat0829 says:

    zing. you are here all night, try the veal?

  125. Patrick(ri) says:

    Must be some kind of mistake. Harren should get his money back on this “past sell date item”.

  126. It never will, brother, it never will.

    Clutch doesn’t exist, but the same people believe in luck.


  127. Reading says:

    Speaking of Karen. My wife, whose name is also Karen, offered that one up: “Dude’s name is like Karen with an H.”

  128. JohninOshkosh says:

    This video launch thing is killing me. Hit the screen and Carrie Underwood pops up with a cosmetic ad.

    SF Chronicle has this. Quit going to their page so much.

    Not liking this….

  129. Cobra39 says:

    Maybe they would be if they had brought up Polanco in April, like the Astros did with Springer, instead of waiting until mid-June.

  130. Reading says:


  131. cmat0829 says:

    Dee Gordon is certainly no Billy Hamilton

  132. Maz in Iowa says:

    Cole getting sharper as the game goes along

  133. Reading says:

    Still weird to see Maz’s home run from the centerfield camera. For basically 50 years you only the hit from above and behind home plate.

  134. Carlos Danger says:

    “Hammered”. Tim said it. Didn’t someone suggest a drinking game?

  135. Maz in Iowa says:


  136. Reading says:


  137. cmat0829 says:

    yes, but Rock didn’t chime in as expected with “Goodness Gracious”…. fun all around….

    OK, Cole has the lead, time for him to bear down, get through next 2 innings at least and turn this over to our new closer….

  138. Reading says:

    Watching Giants-Fredbirds earlier, and Giants broadcast showed graphic saying Posey was called up on May 29, 2010. I guess he is a Super 2 guy, unless he’s already signed an eleventy billion deal.

  139. Carlos Danger says:

    That is too bad. I am on my phone mostly so I don’t have to suffer through that. Sounds terrible though. I never thought I would hear anyone complain about Carrie Underwood popping up too often though…

  140. Carlos Danger says:

    My mom says she can feel which slot machines are about to hit. Now that would be clutch!

  141. cmat0829 says:

    Bummer…Cole blows his own save… 3-3 ballgame… Puig continues to emulate Carlos Gomez….and Cole finds out what happens when you miss location in the big leagues….

  142. cmat0829 says:

    Boy Cole is taking a page from 2012, dont worry about the runner and Dodgers are taking liberties on the bases…..

  143. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yeah, Cole has some work to do with holding runners on. Not the first time this year. And he doesn’t make up for it with strikeouts.

  144. Arriba Wilver says:

    Don Rickles 88th Birthday special on Spike TV. Started 12:00 EST.

  145. Arriba Wilver says:

    I saw Laroche’s swing during that series. Way worse IMHO.

  146. Andrew says:

    Coming into today 12 steals against, 1 caught.

  147. Milo Hamilton says:

    Hockey puck.

  148. Reading says:

    So much for that. The angle was misleading, I believe.

  149. Steelag70 says:

    Freakin’ Marte….

  150. Arriba Wilver says:


  151. Steelag70 says:


  152. Milo Hamilton says:

    Never saw a tag. Too many assumptions are going into these reversals.

  153. Arriba Wilver says:

    He may have only been out by 2inches, but he was out.

  154. Patrick(ri) says:

    Nobody told him he was “over”, I guess.

  155. Thundercrack says:

    Lousy throw from the outfield allows Barmes to score

  156. Steelag70 says:

    Walker is the offense for this club right now…

  157. cmat0829 says:

    What? No Dodger ill-advised throw home to allow Walker to get into scoring position? Nice to see the Bucs continue to show resiliency in this game, coming back after Dodgers tie the game a few times…. let’s keep adding on Buccos!!!!

  158. Arriba Wilver says:

    On second thought, I see what you guys are saying.

  159. Steelag70 says:

    Time for Cutch to blast one….waaayyyyy overdue….

  160. Steelag70 says:

    It looked like the glove could have been between Marte’s hands….

  161. Steelag70 says:

    Cutch is learning what it’s like to be treated as a reigning MVP….

  162. Steelag70 says:

    Gabby is a beast off the bench…

  163. Thundercrack says:

    All Gabby does is hit

  164. Thundercrack says:

    Reigning MVP without protection in the lineup

  165. Arriba Wilver says:

    Somebody suggested recently that Paul Maholm was available in the offseason for a reasonable rate. Can’t remember who it was . . .


  166. Steelag70 says:

    That too…. +++

  167. Reading says:

    It wasn’t clear where Marte’s hand was, plus the angle they kept showing, Gordon could have been a foot in front of Marte, but the angle made him appear right there.

  168. cmat0829 says:

    more 7th inning magic for our buccos…time for Cole to shut them down an inning or two and grilli to cheese them in the 9th……

    by the way, how bad are the pirates historically in Dodger Stadium? The 9 straight Ls and 10 total runs has been well documented…but how about, since 2007:

    Pirates 4-19 vs. Dodgers at Chavez Ravine, one of those victories against Dana Eveland (so does it really count?).
    Dodgers have outscored the Bucs 128-52.


    Could say we are due to score some runs and get some Ws…no time like the present….

  169. cmat0829 says:

    give Paul the ball….

  170. Thundercrack says:

    How could you hear that with all the yelling from Madden?


  171. Andrew says:

    Man, Cole, you cannot be walking Chone Figgins.

  172. Reading says:

    Cole getting a hand. Nice job. Time for bullpen to put this away.

  173. JohninOshkosh says:

    Ha! Big fan of her body………..

    ……of work.

  174. cmat0829 says:

    the absolute worst thing I’ve heard in a while was Madden slobbering that a reason Polanco needed to be in the Burgh by now is for ‘clubhouse cachet’… ridiculous to once again let players off the hook with that unfounded players suck because they are let down by Polanco not being up on the team.

    DK was spot on…if anything, veteran players tend to stick up for other veteran players, so I wouldn’t doubt some solidarity with Travis Snider even if he sucks royally….

    Just so tired of anything and everything that is an excuse that isn’t ‘the players that are here are sucking up the joint’

  175. cmat0829 says:

    agree… with his pitch count he had a chance to finish 7 and perhaps go out for the 8th, but if he is gonna piss around the plate with Figgins then he needs a shower.

    Good defense tonight, nice to see Barmes in there, I’d like Mercer to have a good solid road trip on the bench….

  176. Reading says:

    NICE!! One pitch. Two outs. 6 outs left.

  177. cmat0829 says:

    i agree. like the idea of replay, but they are not respecting the original calls enough. One thing the NFL has right generally is they dont reverse the call unless it is very clear. In baseball they go back to the old ‘if the ball beats the runner, then he is out stuff’ and that in my mind disrepects the calls on the field.

  178. cmat0829 says:

    Gee, is the Dodgers bullpen approach to load up on expensive former closers? League and now Perez…. they should go out and sign Heath Bell to round out the pen…. and to take care of all the buffet food they are now throwing out.

  179. Milo Hamilton says:

    Chris Perez looks like he’s put on some weight. Munchies will get you every time.

  180. Maz in Iowa says:

    Harrison likes playing RF…….till Polanco arrives

  181. cmat0829 says:

    Yikes, it looks like he is in one of those Hollywood movie fat suits…. wow.

  182. Thundercrack says:

    I agree with you that what Madden said about the effect on the clubhouse. When was the last time Madden was in the Pirate clubhouse? When was the last time he interviewed a player?

  183. Milo Hamilton says:

    So Watson gets demoted for no reason. I love how this team is run.

  184. Arriba Wilver says:

    Like I’ve consistently said, he consistently yells, TC. You want to read something into that. What I read into it is it’s his personality, and his show.

    Look at the Final Word. It’s what he does, right, wrong, going to a commercial break. Doesn’t matter. He’s an entertainer first.

  185. Andrew says:

    Baseball loves roles for the bullpen, I think this inning is going to be tougher than 9th.

  186. Reading says:

    Wiuld rather see Watson here.

  187. Patrick(ri) says:

    He just likes to play.

  188. Arriba Wilver says:

    What happened?

  189. Thundercrack says:

    I was joking.

  190. Patrick(ri) says:

    Looks like Puig will be pretty sore tomorrow, if he isn’t already.

  191. Milo Hamilton says:

    They just put everything back the way it was before Grilli got CL’d. Now their best reliever can pitch the 7th.

  192. Arriba Wilver says:

    Don’t forget he made it pretty clear he didn’t know and didn’t really care. I think he knew it was ridiculous. You want to make an argument he knew he was losing then, have at it. I don’t buy the yelling thing indicating any more than he’s Mark Madden.

  193. JohninOshkosh says:

    Loved it when Carson would ask Newhart why he was friends with Rickles.

  194. Arriba Wilver says:

    I have to defend my man from you meanies.


  195. Maz in Iowa says:

    2BB and no errors.It’s a lot easier if they don’t help the opponents extra runners

  196. cmat0829 says:

    i dont mind this…there is a nice order to it… i’m just hoping we are in positions often, like last year in the first half, to put the bullpen order to the test… me, watson and melancon are interchangeable and should be used that way based on matchups….

  197. Reading says:

    Says Me.

  198. cmat0829 says:

    like i said he is a radio personality…facts are less important than ‘speaking for his audience’…. he is what he is, doesnt mean folks cant point out when his opinions are ridiculous.

  199. cmat0829 says:

    i’m sorry but the NHL-style beards have to go…

  200. Arriba Wilver says:

    Clint’s a genius.

  201. cmat0829 says:

    RAISE IT… nice bouncback win, an important win for this team…. as Rock said a nice ‘clean win’ and just what the Dr. ordered…. before this game I’d had have been thrilled with a SPLIT this series, now the Bucs have 3 chances to get that 2nd win. Hoping for more, of course, but realistically a 2-2 series in LA would be a huge improvement.

  202. Arriba Wilver says:

    True. TC and I had a running thing going on “yelling.”

  203. Thundercrack says:

    Happy for tonight’s win. But for some reason I’m still p*ssed about yesterday’s loss in NYC

  204. Andrew says:

    It’s completely justified to be pissed about both those losses, that was some bad baseball.

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