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By Dejan Kovacevic | Trib Total Media

Morning, Lunatics …

>> The weekly chat begins today at 1 p.m. right here on this blog. As soon as you see the post go up, usually around 11 a.m., feel free to submit an entry. No need to wait for me.

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>> Jordy Mercer reached base five times along with a homer and four hits as the Pirates smoked the Padres early this morning at Petco Park. Rob Biertempfel reports from San Diego.

L.A. might have provided the spark, by Biertempfel.

A draft pick swap is nothing new, by Biertempfel.

Here’s TribLIVE’s Pirates page, our Bucco Blog and our photo gallery.

Here’s Padres news from the San Diego Union-Tribune.

Here are official game highlights on

>> The Penguins still don’t have a GM. Rob Rossi is staying on this. Maybe today. Maybe Thursday. We’ll see. The one thing you can pretty much take to the bank is that it won’t be Wednesday. The NHL hates anything distracting from Game 1 of the final.

Columnist Joe Starkey delves into Pierre McGuire’s pluses and minuses.

A richly detailed breakdown of the Penguins’ roster status, by Josh Yohe.

Would the Penguins have had a prayer against the Kings?

Our panel tackled that on WPXI-TV’s Subway Final Word Sunday night:

Here’s TribLIVE’s Penguins page and our Chipped Ice blog.

Here are official game highlights on

>> The football club is back at OTAs this morning. Here’s TribLIVE’s Steelers page, our Steel Mill blog and our photo gallery.

>> Thank you, as always, for reading.

Author: Dejan Kovacevic

Dejan Kovacevic, a lifelong Pittsburgher, is an award-winning sports columnist for Trib Total Media covering the Steelers, Penguins, Pirates, Pitt and, recently, his fourth Olympics in Sochi, Russia. He also appears on WPXI-TV's 'Subway Final Word’ and hosts a weekly show on TribLIVE Radio. For 2011, he was named one of the country's top four columnists by the AP Sports Editors. For 2012, he was named one of the country's top three columnists by the National Headliners. For 2013, he was named the state's top columnist by the Keystone Press Awards and top columnist in Western Pennsylvania by the Golden Quills.


  1. Eric Bowser says:

    When the new General Manager of the Pittsburgh Penguins takes over, he will be taking over a roster that will have three forwards (Chris Kunitz, Pascal Dupuis, and Craig Adams) and two defensemen (Rob Scuderi and Paul Martin) over the age of 33 at the start of the regular season.

    Of those five players, they will take up $16.675 million (24%) of a projected $70 million salary cap for next season. Those five players scored 50 goals last season and there’s plenty of reason to doubt Kunitz will score 35 again considering both he and Dupuis will be playing in their age 35 season.

    The Penguins will have Kunitz and Dupuis for three years (age 35, 36, and 37 season) because former GM Ray Shero had nothing in the system to play on a line with Sidney Crosby. Those draft mistakes will force the new GM to make some tough decisions about other players that might have more trade value, i.e., return two or more assets.

    When you look at the Los Angeles Kings, they had nine skaters under the age of 25 played in 553 games. Then consider this, those players were Drew Doughty, Tyler Toffoli, Tanner Pearson, Kyle Clifford, Vyacheslav Voynov, Dwight King, and don’t laugh, Jake Muzzin. Yes, the same Jake Muzzin drafted by Shero in the fifth round of the 2007 draft and was left unsigned by the Penguins.

    While the Penguins are paying Scuderi a cool $3.375 million per season for a defensemen playing in his age 35, 36 and 37 seasons, the Kings will be paying $1 million to Muzzin for his age 25 season and then becomes a restricted free agent the following season.

    It grows deeper from there for the new GM as he’ll enter the offseason with Martin, Scuderi, Kris Letang, Olli Maatta, and Robert Bortuzzo as defensemen signed for next season leaving two spots on the roster with at least four defensive prospects (Simon Despres, Brian Dumoulin, Phil Samuelsson, and Scott Harrington) ready to play in the NHL.

    The next GM not only needs to have a younger defense, he also needs to be prepared for the following season since Scuderi will be broken down even more and Martin becomes an unrestricted free agent.

    By the 2015-2016 season, Pens will lose Martin and hopefully have his replacement in Derrick Pouliot, a smooth-skating prospect that had shoulder surgery and needs at least one year of professional hockey in the AHL before pushing for the NHL.

    In two years, team’s defense could be Despres, Letang, Maatta, Harrington, Dumoulin, Pouliot, and Samuelsson. Where’s the depth afterwards?

    This is why the decision to flip a defensemen for a forward is not going to be a simple and easy decision.

  2. Poole says:

    Wow. Today could finally be the day. It isn’t a decision that should be rushed but there are so many potential moves (trades, signings, draft prep) that I am ready for a decision.

    One thing I heard in regards to Pierre was that the Pens could be using his knowledge and connections to help in the search process. Please lets hope thats the case.

    Being completely candid, I think hed make a good head scout. Never *ever* GM.

    Does a new GM bring in his own staff? I wonder how much of a role that plays into the decision and whether or not Botterill stays onboard?

  3. It’s a shame McGuire’s name ever came up in this process. Really is.

  4. Eric Bowser says:

    Yes, GMs bring in their own guys to help run the team from scouting (pro & amateur), player development, salary cap management, contract negotiations, AHL team management, and coaches for NHL and AHL team.

    If Pierre McGuire gets the job, he’s not going to have Jason Botterill as his right-hand man as assistant GM because at that point, Botterill will likely feel like he’s been tagged as a capologist and will want to change that perception in order to get a GM job.

    Maybe he’ll keep Randy Sexton but honestly, this franchise needs a clean slate. That’s why I am not a big fan in Tom Fitzgerald or Botterill as the new GM since they will probably keep a lot of the current people.

    The first place that would have to change is scouting. It is a disgrace how the Penguins went from heavily recruiting Europe under former scout Mark Kelley to what they’ve become under Ray Shero. From what I can gather, they have two guys working Europe.

    If you asked me, I wouldn’t mind seeing McGuire change careers and work his way up the chain by becoming a Director of Scouting.

  5. Poole says:

    Really well thought out post, Eric. To address your main question, Martin could be resigned. But I really hope that’s not the case because he makes great sense to me as a candidate defenseman for forwards swap.

    When you really step back like you pointed out, I think the new GM has his hands full but not tied. Every new GM comes into a bad situation (obviously, that’s why there’s an opening). But he still has the core pieces to win a cup. That’s the hard part. The easy (easier) part is finding role players and depth. Ship out any of the older guys with good value while you can. Shake things up with small moves or even blockbusters. Our D corp may not have great depth in a few years but these are all blue chip guys playing on cheap contracts. So you have money to spend in Free Agency. FA usually means overpayment but if there’s only a few pieces to fill….well spend the money and forget the Shero deadline moves where you give up REAL assets.

    Its definitely a transition phase for the team. Not unlike the Steelers. But the steelers went out and signed some guys…. Released the bloated contracts…and drafted some guys they liked. They are now younger, transitioning, but can still field a competitive team.

  6. Eric Bowser says:

    Very curious how his name got out there… well, not really.

  7. Don’t overthink it.

  8. Poole says:

    Haha DK is still awake having bald head and glasses nightmares like us…

  9. Poole says:

    “Don’t believe everything you read on Twitter” – David Morehouse

  10. Eric Bowser says:

    Or what someone tells his media publicists to print about himself.

  11. Poole says:

    But is Pierre really any better at scouting than, say, Mel Kiper? At least Mel predicts things….We only hear PM speak of prospects after they make it to the NHL….even I can do that.

  12. Eric Bowser says:

    No nightmares for me…. son had his first base hit tonight (single) and RBI, Pens could have hired McGuire and I would have cared less. Now about that at-bat by McCutchen, that bothered me.

  13. Poole says:

    Congrats to your son. Hopefully there’s no Super 2 rule holding him back from his true potential :-)

  14. Eric Bowser says:

    I’m not sure one would lose the scouting eye as long as McGuire has been true to the training and doesn’t just repeat things he’s heard from others and actually spent his time watching video breaking down a player.

    Part of what McGuire or anyone does need to do is be able to not only eye a prospect on the ice but learn about the player off it.

    For example, I’d steer away from Sam Bennett if I was advising any GM for this year’s draft. What hockey player calls himself an athlete and can’t do one single pull up?

    I’m by no means an athlete, stand 6′ 205 and can do at least one.

    There’s stuff off the ice that you learn about a player, what makes him tick, what he puts into it to be better that you won’t learn by watching video. You actually need to visit the games, talk to people, talk to the player, talk to his coaches, talk to the strength and conditioning people, his offseason training coaches, his family, etc.

  15. Eric Bowser says:

    Thanks, he wants to be a catcher so that Super-2 better be gone in 10-12 years.

  16. Eric Bowser says:

    Why am I watching this Pirates game…. like a train wreck I guess and they are winning.

  17. Reading says:

    Given that the Padres pitchers threw about 475 pitches, the AA starter tonight might have to take one for the team regardless of the score.

  18. Ghost says:

    Don’t look now, but the Pirates now have the 3rd best OBP in the NL. Hand in hand with the great hitting last night was the fact everyone (even Starling Marte!) worked and worked and worked counts deep all night long. Sometimes it’s good to hunt the fastball early when you know it’s likely to come. But good patience and sticking with your “process” will pay off too. Hurdle and Branson really seem to have the players turning a corner and last night was a great case study. Forced seven Padre pitchers to thrown 249 pitches. Bodes well for the rest of the series.

  19. twentytwo22 says:

    You beat me to it. The only thing I’ll add is their hitters have the 4th most walks and 4th fewest strikeouts in the NL.

  20. twentytwo22 says:

    This isn’t the first time San Diego has debuted a pitcher against the Pirates. Remember this brutal game from 2012?

    Don’t assume anything but with Cole-Liriano the Pirates have a great opportunity here.

  21. It’s about time that the Pirates won some road games considering that they’re now 11-17 on the road as opposed to 16=13 at home. And at least they got their offense going last night against the Padres and Charlie Morton won his second, and they’re now assured of at least a .500 road trip for a change.

  22. radio wave says:

    Nice to wake up to a win. I was concerned about them losing focus in SD.

  23. JAL says:

    JAL’s Me and You and a Dog Named Boo Morning Links

    I Love My Dog Cat Stevens


    1- MLB Transactions

    2-MLB Trade Rumors-Pirates

    3 BFFL’s 2014 Pirates Stats Spreadsheet

    4 Pirates Prospects

    Pittsburgh Pirates Organizational Probable Pitching Chart

    BLOGS and such

    5—Pirates Prospects

    First Pitch: Getting Value From the Upcoming Roster Moves

    Prospect Watch: Glasnow Continues Hot Streak; Pimentel Starts Rehab

    Top 10 Hitters: A Week Profiling Depth and Trade Deadline Candidates

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    6 Bucs Dugout

    Jordy Mercer, Pirates crush Padres 10-3 in epic 4-hour game


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    Ten Things Have Happened in MLB Since the Pittsburgh Pirates Last Series Win in LA

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    Why the Small “Market” Brewers have a Bigger Payroll than the Small “Market” Pirates

  24. JAL says:

    NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES and Other Media

    11 San Diego Union Tribune

    Stauffer exits early again in loss to Pirates

    12 CBS Sports

    Pirates-Padres Game Preview

    13 Chicago Sun Times

    Hoyer remains bullish on manager Rick Renteria

    14 SB Nation

    Vin Scully, baseball’s longest-tenured and most eloquent broadcaster, is still looking to make a connection

    15 Pirates Site

    Mercer leads Pirates’ plunder in San Diego

    Pirates tasked with maximizing lower picks in Draft

    Hurdle lauds Harrison’s power display

    16 Cincinnati Enquirer

    Reds Monthly Review: A May under .500

    17 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

    Matt Garza sharp; Jonathan Lucroy leads Brewers attack

    18 St. Louis Post Dispatch

    Cardinals blanked again at Busch

    19 Fangraphs

    Talking Situational Wins

    20 Baseball Prospectus

    The Baseball Draft: A 50-Year Retrospective, Part One

  25. Nastynate82 says:

    Workout wonders don’t necessarily mean a guy will be a great player. You know the one guy at the 2007 draft who couldn’t bench press 185 pounds? Kevin Durant.

  26. Jandy says:

    Love the song, Joe, my Pitt’s name is Shelby, but her nickname is BooBoo :)

  27. And as for the Pens, I’d want to know who they finally settle on as GM before I commented since they seem to have wasted enough time so far trying to agree on a replacement.

  28. Thundercrack says:

    I wonder if Dan Marino was still working for CBS if he would be joining this lawsuit against the NFL.

  29. DJ says:

    I guess her “style” is less is more.

  30. DJ says:

    I’ll say this much.

    She has great looking eyes.

  31. DJ says:

    Watching McCutchen with the bases loaded lately is liking watching Sid in the playoffs.

    All the ability in the world and yet a lot of opportunities being left on the field / ice.

  32. DJ says:

    On a related note, Walker should tell himself the bases are loaded every time up.

  33. Botherhood of the Redus says:

    Russell Martin needs a deal…would love if the Bucs could do it…Some of this young pitching on its way could benefit mightily.

  34. Jandy says:

    LOL!!! yeah…for sure


  35. Jandy says:

    I didn’t watch the game last night…must have been something to see lol.
    But yeah…frustrating with all the runners being stranded.

  36. Jandy says:

    I was wondering that myself, TC.

  37. Naje says:

    Bucs win 10-3, pound out 16 hits, were 9-for-20 with RISP and complaints abound about Cutch’s ability to hit with the bases loaded.

    Pittsburgh fans…

  38. Well, the Bucs won 10-3 last night so it seems that not too many were stranded, and, hopefully, they’ll leave fewer runners stranded in the future.

  39. Jandy says:

    I’m betting you’re among those complaining when the Bucs lose and runners are stranded.

  40. The Bucs need to strand fewer runners day in and day out, so let’s hope that last night will be a step in the right direction.

  41. Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    I might be the worst AB I’ve seen him take. Completely lost.

    Surprised that Walk even questioned his thinking during that.

  42. Naje says:

    Well, J, when you go 0-for7 or 0-for-11 or 1-12 with RISP, sure, complain away….

    But 9-for-20 with RISP is nothing to complain about. Not sure of your point.

  43. Jandy says:

    My point is I don’t think we’re complaining, just making an observation. Dj and I aren’t exactly of the complaining variety. Just sayin’ :)

    In any case, it IS disappointing that that happens with regularity.

  44. Pucknutz says:

    Just can’t see it….but stranger things have happened.

  45. Naje says:

    Ah, thanks for clarifying.

  46. DJ says:

    Note to self: Observations off limits in any Pittsburgh win.

  47. Jim S. says:

    Only problem, Ghost, is the series may never end with how long the games are taking. :-)

  48. Tom P. says:

    I don’t know if anyone mentioned this over the weekend, but the Pirates actually had a winning record in May, 15-14. Didn’t really feel like it. Maybe we were spoiled from their level of consistency last year.

  49. Jandy says:

    Baloney! You make any observations you want to. Others can scroll, scroll, scroll :)

  50. I don’t like missed opportunities, either but a 10-3 thrashing is as good as a 15-3 or 17-3 one. Besides, 24/7 was complaining on Twitter about the length of the game. He isn’t supposed to work those long hours and, if we score 15 runs, that game would have been even longer.

    On Sunday, we scored five runs on only 6 hits, so I’ll take either game, both W’s.

    On the Polanco front, now that the narrative has died a gory death per DK, he was 2-4 again last night with a double. BA at .353, OPS .964.

    On the pitching depth side, Worley was tagged for 10 hits and 6 runs over 5 innings, but only 1 walk and 9 K’s. Could be a long relief candidate or bullpen guy with that kind of control. ERA is up to 4.74 though. 96 pitches.

  51. Jim S. says:

    That’s so sad, Jandy. They’re 12 years old. I guess I could say doing that is unconscionable at any age. But, 12? Just so sad.

  52. Jim S. says:

    Yeah, yeah, her eyes. What DJ said. Her eyes.

  53. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Penguins could name Donald Sterling General Manager and it would be met with universal acclaim from Penguins fans because he’s not Pierre McGuire.

  54. Jandy says:

    Makes me shudder! What the heck are we as a society putting into their heads that they think they can just do this crap????

  55. Thundercrack says:

    But what is Nutting doing with all the money?!


  56. Jim S. says:


    He has 3 doubles and a HR in the last 2 nights. We need not worry about Cutch. At all.

  57. BTW, someone mentioned Matt Hague last night and his inability to hit ML pitching after tearing up AAA. He’s among the leaders in HR’s in the International League with 8 and has driven in 35. AAAA maybe, but just sayin’ he’s still there and still working. BA is only .273 though, so not “collecting” as many hits, but making them count.

  58. Investing in the Tigers’ bullpen.

  59. Jim S. says:

    +++, Redus.

  60. Milo Hamilton says:

    Phil Mickelson is investing it for him.

  61. Jandy says:


    uh huh

    I want to hear Oshie’s take on it all…

  62. Jandy says:

    Not THIS fan!

  63. SeanAY says:

    “Besides, 24/7 was complaining on Twitter about the length of the game. He isn’t supposed to work those long hours and, if we score 15 runs, that game would have been even longer. ”

    I mean, I’m sure he was writing on some sort of deadline. Long games are the sports writer’s bane.

    Our old football beat writer used to hate it when we got picked up for ESPN3 at 3:30 p.m. because the print deadline was something crazy, like 8 p.m.

    And yes, in my experience as well, long games are awful, especially when the outcome is already decided.

  64. Nate83 says:

    When the bases are loaded in 4 innings you are eventually going to strand something even if you get a few hits scoring runs before stranding them unless you hit a home run and clear the bases. The more important number is RISP average and they where 9-20 and had some big pinch hits.

  65. Jim S. says:

    The eyes are the window to the soul. I’ve heard that.

  66. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think James got you, Jandy. ;-)

  67. Nate83 says:

    Lucky I’m starting to think Groat is right and Polanco will be up on Friday. Really can’t wait to see the kid play. Ironically if he came up 3 weeks ago there is no way Harrison is playing as much and never would have had this hot streak. Baseball is a crazy game and at the end of the day we got Polanco like performance (probably better) from Harrison without even calling Polanco up.

  68. Milo Hamilton says:

    I’ve been known to sum up these types of situations with one simple sentence. “They’re cutting into my drinking time.”

  69. Jandy says:

    I think DJ was looking at the last few weeks…but yes indeed, the last few games, our Cutch has been slamming it!

  70. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yinz hockey fans are so sensitive. ;-)

  71. SeanAY says:

    Neither confirmed nor denied.

  72. Jim S. says:

    I wasn’t attacking, DJ. I hope it didn’t come off that way. Just disagreeing. :-)

  73. I’ve done some writing, many years ago, and we had deadlines then, too. Didn’t complain about them. Wrote about all the HS games and covered about 3 or 4 of them. Did all our own art, too, from shooting to canning to everything but press work. Even had to roll our own film. Nothing digital way back then. Had to get stuff off the ticker. Nothing like today.

    Anyone want to trade places with Rob? He also showed a nice shot of his hotel view, like DK does at times.

  74. Jim S. says:

    Well, it is a valid observation that he does not have a hit this year with the bases full. I think he’s about 0-4 or 0-5. And, I do think maybe he pressed a little last night on that at bat. He was trying to crush the ball. Maybe the frustration of not getting a lot of chances with RISP got to him for a bit.

    But, then he got up later with 1st & 2nd and he did crush one to RC. Would have scored both runners if it hadn’t bounced over the wall. Overall, he’s hitting ok with RISP.

    Cutch is still Cutch.

  75. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think Lucky was just making an observation about 24/7. :-)

  76. Dom says:

    Casey Sadler has a 2.66 ERA in eight starts, including a complete game in AAA.

    Anyone have any idea when he is to be promoted?

  77. And I forgot to mention, up hill both ways.

  78. Arriba Wilver says:

    After the Super 2 date.

  79. Sarah says:

    Agree with this and have posted before, McGuire in the scouting area but never as GM.

  80. He took Morris’s spot on the roster.

  81. Jim S. says:

    I think he’s up now, DJ.

  82. Jandy says:

    yup, and ya’ll are looking at her eyes ;)

  83. Jandy says:

    Smart azz :P


  84. Sarah says:

    Too young to get the reality of it…and not taught any better I suppose ….
    I recall a couple of 8 or 10 year olds put a toddler on the train tracks and he was killed. This in UK I think.
    They asked the police to “un-dead” him…..

  85. Jandy says:


  86. Jandy says:

    nah…we just look out for our own ;)

    Seriously tho…I think there were comments above that were more likely the reason for Naje’s post. besides, I like Naje :)

  87. Jandy says:

    We know that Jim, you’re the sweetest poster on this here blog :)

  88. Jandy says:

    yes indeed!

  89. Jim S. says:

    Sorry, meant that as a response to Dom.

  90. :D

    Thank God, that pop-up from last week was a one-time deal. Talk about annoying. No matter who it was on there.

  91. Jandy says:

    shhhh! ;X

  92. Jandy says:

    makes me want to vomit…

  93. Jandy says:

    Hey hey radio, is the party at your house tomorrow night???

  94. Jim S. says:

    You’re the sweetest poster on the blog, Jandy!

  95. Jandy says:

    I don’t think so, Jim, but you’re a sweetie for saying so :)

  96. Jandy says:

    And I beat ya to it ;)

  97. Jim S. says:

    My dilemma is I’m torn between the joy of not having to hear Kris Letang being called Kristopher by someone other than his mother 50x on every TV game vs. the horror of a guy who is completely unprepared for the job of running our NHL team getting that job, anyway. :-)

  98. cmat0829 says:

    matt hague will never make it in MLB, he’s AAA filler now… it happens, nice guy, too bad, but let’s move on.

  99. Jim S. says:


    Stop and think for a minute. Put yourself in the mind of Nutting. Would you bring him up to play in a game which is probably already a sellout, or close to it? Or, would you wait until a weeknight game where you could pocket some extra ticket revenue? Those ski lifts don’t buy themselves, you know. :-)

  100. cmat0829 says:

    i think you need to read Travis or Rob’s columns they spend so much time on — Sadler was promoted on Saturday.

  101. Baywatch says:

    Good point, Nate! And I bet Clint finds SOMEWHERE for JHay to play most every day after Polanco comes up.

  102. cmat0829 says:

    I’m sticking with Friday the 13th in Miami, though it would be awesome for Polanco to face the pathetic Brewers in PNC Park. We owe those a-holes a beating and let’s hope we get to beating on Friday…..

  103. Poole says:

    Pierre self promoting himself on radio is comforting. At least we know its not serious.

  104. Naje says:

    Thx Jandy… DJ… yours wasn’t the only post talking about hitting with RISP, but they did go 9-for-20 last night and have been hitting well enough (though not always producing wins) in May and June.

    Just odd that some picked a night when they score 10 runs, pound 16 hits and go 9-for-20 with RISP to discuss a lack of hitting. The team’s hitting stats in May are among the best in the NL…

  105. cmat0829 says:

    Super sub role… 3B at least 1 game a week… and I think Clint might just roll the dice with JayHey in LF to spell the schhhtruuugggggaling Marte. though I will cringe every time a ball is hit to left field at PNC…. JayHey can play 2B too, but not sure you will be sitting Walker any time soon.

    I think 3 games a week as super sub is about right.

  106. Jim S. says:

    Reminds me of a great line by Bill Cosby, Lucky. He said his dad was always telling him how hard he had it as a kid. Cosby said as a child he asked his dad for a quarter, and his dad told him a story of how he once killed a grizzly bear with his loose leaf notebook.

  107. Jim S. says:

    Rats!! :-(

  108. Patrick(ri) says:

    The offense has been perplexing , for sure. The inability to perorm with the bases loaded has been a problem all season — even with 1 or 0 outs. Got to the point that I cringe when they load them up. (The previous is an observation).

    Another oddity is highlighted by the fact that a 5′ 9″ former Pirate got more doubles in one game than the Pirates get in a month (observation, punctuated by exaggeration).

    A question(merely based upon observation). Is it possible the relatively high ranking of Pirate offense is due to some way above average games with big run totals?

    A final observation/question: does the Pirate batter approach lead not only to longer games but also to extraordinary numbers of pop ups (possible sarcasm)?

  109. Jandy says:

    No worries, Naje, and I figured out you prolly were referring to the posts at the top ;)

    Yes their stats are good, and I’m slow at reading those!

  110. Jandy says:

    lmao! :*

  111. Milo Hamilton says:

    He strikes me as the type of guy who perpetually runs for office with no intention of ever getting elected.

  112. Jandy says:


  113. Jandy says:

    hey now cmat, don’t start on Dom, he’s my buddy! ;)

  114. Jandy says:


  115. :D

    That’s probably how my post sounded, too, Jim. I’m sure it’s probably harder now to complete a story or column than it was then. It was fun seeing your byline and getting paid (a little) for it. Back then, you just typed it on a dinasaur computer, coded it and let fly.

  116. Jandy says:

    She said, “thank you”

  117. Milo Hamilton says:

    The Pirates are 3rd in the NL in on base percentage. I’m going to repeat this for effect.

    The Pirates are 3rd in the NL in on base percentage.

  118. Jandy says:

    as long as you’re not complaining!

  119. Dom says:

    Thanks for the info. He is one of many prospects from the ever successful 2010 draft.

  120. Patrick(ri) says:

    Probably due to all those unproductive bases loaded events?

  121. Milo Hamilton says:

    I think yinz guys know when I’m complaining. :)

  122. cmat0829 says:

    not picking on Dom, just promoting the good work of Trav/Rob

  123. Dom says:

    3rd? You must mean 15th or 16th, right?

    This means we’re either improving at the plate or the AL is going to have a really easy time in the World Series.

  124. Jim S. says:

    Thanks, Mother LeTang.

  125. Poole says:

    Hey, Trump ran for president..

  126. Naje says:

    Wonder if we should start an official Polanco arrival contest… (and really wish Playoffs was here to run it!!!!)

    Date and time (closest to the hour) would win a free, you guessed it, corn dog!

    My guess: June 10 at 2pm. As that’s my birthday and it would be a great gift and would bring a big walk-up crowd to a Tuesday night game.

  127. cmat0829 says:

    Step 1: Get on base (you can’t score if you aren’t on base).
    Step 2: Drive the baserunners in and score.

    Pirates have noticeably cut down on their strikeouts and increased their walks, including Pedro. It’s a noticeable approach change. Now they need to come up with big hits a bit more frequently and Mr. Polanco will certainly help there, not only himself, but also in stretching the lineup.

    I actually think Marte’s funk is due to him trying to apply a Branson/Hurdle approach and having no clue how to do it… he is noticeably uncomfortable and looks kind of like Matt Kemp did in that last series… out of sorts, low energy, kind of in a daze…. I noticed Cutch and Pedro surrounding Marte in the dugout… i think Starling needs some peer-to-peer assistance to snap out of it!

  128. cmat0829 says:

    As to the time, do you mean the official announcement or the first tweet proclaming the move? Pretty sure the Pirates won’t announce it til like 5 or 6pm when they ‘see Polanco’ in the clubhouse… but put me down for June 13, announcement comes on Thursday night 11pm after the Cubs game.

  129. Jim S. says:


  130. Arriba Wilver says:

    Yeah, they’ll bring him up on Friday the 13th. Those b’tards. Good thing baseball players aren’t superstitious.

  131. Jim S. says:

    Am not, either.

  132. Poole says:

    Moving forward, I think Mario has a good idea of what team he would like to build. To me, however, it’s a little like the Steelers wanting a tall receiver. The Pens want size and grit but should you TARGET that (or even OVERPAY for it)? Or just draft best player available, trade for best players available, etc no matter how big, gritty, or character-y?

  133. Naje says:

    Good call cmat… and yes, I concur that the team waits until they get player in clubhouse, just thinking that the official announcement will come a little earlier than normal 5p or 6p in order to get the buzz working and increase Tuesday night crowd by a couple thousand (or more, who knows? after all, Polanco is going to hit .750 for this club…just kidding)

  134. Jandy says:

    Am toooooo! :*

  135. Jandy says:

    we might have a clue, and if we don’t we’ll just buy a vowel ;)

  136. Jandy says:

    LOL don’t mention it ;)

  137. Jandy says:


  138. Arriba Wilver says:

    Good observation about Marte.

  139. Jim S. says:


  140. Jandy says:


  141. 21sthebest says:

    Hey cmat! I wanted to ask you about your comment from yesterday that playoff money is overrated, negligible, and shared across the league.

    According to the financial statements that were leaked, in 2008, the year the Rays went to the World Series, their postseason net profits totaled $11 million. In 2009, the Angels lost in the ALCS and their net profits were $9 million. Also, as far as I’m aware, playoff money is not shared and is not part of Central Fund revenues.

  142. Milo Hamilton says:

    You could use the team’s official tweet. It’s time stamped.

  143. Jim S. says:

    I remember a 10-18 start, Tom. So, since then, they’ve been 17-12.

    But, really all of the upside has been since the end of the Baltimore series at PNC. I believe they took the 2nd game of that short series, then 3/4 vs. Wash, then lost 2/3 at NYM (Ugh!!), then won 3/4 at LAD, & 1/1 so far vs. SD.

    So, I think they are on a 9 of 13 roll. But, this just goes to show how hard it is to climb out of a -8 hole with a team that plays so many close games. You just can’t win a high % of 1-2 run games for very long, usually. A play here or there turns the game. So, it was good to see a nice blowout last night. We need more of them. I think the Bucs have still been outscored by something like 25 runs this year. Maybe the tide is turning now.

  144. Jim S. says:

    I think you are right about them having a different approach at the plate. I heard Huntington mention it a week or two ago. They are trying to be more patient on pitches outside of the zone, but very aggressive on pitches they are looking for in hitters’ counts. I think it is an intelligent approach. But, I think a big issue for hitting coaches, in general, is that hitting is not a “one size fits all” proposition. Some guys just are not comfortable doing anything but hacking, and if that is what got them this far you might need to leave them alone for the most part. I wonder if Starling is one of those guys. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

  145. Nate83 says:

    If JHay goes 0-8 the next two games or Marte goes 1-7 or 0-8 I think he comes up for the Brewers series. I think the projected date has passed and maybe the amount of time needed to be safe is close enough to give the people what they want.

    That being said Travis Snider is on fire and it would be a shame to lose him :)

  146. Dom says:

    It’s conspicuous from the leaked documents that there are no owners that are making a gross amount of money off of their teams. At least, not until they sell the ballclub. If anyone has any documentation that contradicts this, then please post it here.

  147. Jim S. says:

    Good post, 21. I wondered about the playoff sharing aspect also. I was thinking that if it was shared, it certainly cannot be shared equally among all teams. That doesn’t seem right to me. But, I don’t know.

  148. Arriba Wilver says:

    I wondered about that, too. Seemed very counterintuitive at best.

  149. Arriba Wilver says:

    Wrong tangent, Dom. No offense.

  150. Naterosboro says:

    Tuesday tidings….

    * Quote of the night from Chuckles Morton: “I have good stuff,” Morton said. “I induce weak contact. My stuff moves. Unfortunately, I also walk guys and hit guys.”

    * The Pirates had 16 hits last night. 1 of them came from the 3,4,5 hitters (the ground-rule double by McCutchen). 10 of the 16 were from Mercer, Harrison & Walker.

    * Neil Walker continues his 2014 bid to get a contract extension.

    * In addition to inducing weak contact, Charlie Morton had 9Ks last night. I have to admit, when I checked my MLB app and saw he had a no-no going, I got excited. Then I saw it was 3-2 the next inning and Charlie was out of the game. So much for that…still a good performance by Charlie. Minus the walks and hit batters.

    * I don’t necessarily mind the hit batters for Charlie. He’s pitching inside and making guys uncomfortable. Remember when Crash Davis had Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Lalouche throw at the bull? Yea, something like that…

    * Jordy Mercer went 4-5, hit a towering HR to LF, drove in 4 runs, and raised his average to .219. And some of those hits even came against RHPitching. A few more of these, and we might have to call Jordy a real, live baseball player.

    * Ike Davis hit a sacrifice fly. That gives the Pirates 9 of those on the year so far. Major League average is 15. The Pirates are 28th in MLB in sacflies. I’m still going to nit-pick on this until the team does it to at least league average standards. Getting a man in from 3rd base with less than 2 outs by hitting a flyball should not be this hard for professional hitters….

    * Carlos Quentin heard the boos from SD fans after hitting a weak grounder in the 9th. Alvarez bobbled the ball, but was able to make the play as Quentin hadn’t really bothered to run all that hard to 1st (assuming Alvarez would make a routine play and it was 10-3 at the time). Thankfully he did, otherwise Pedro would’ve had another error.

    * With the Pirates banging out 16 hits & 10 runs in Game 1 of this series, I fully expect them to struggle to score 3 runs for the next 2. Just seems to be the way things go. Let’s hope we get some great pitching performances and win some close ball games in the next 2 for a 7-3 road trip.


  151. 21sthebest says:

    Dom, in the financials for the 5 teams that I saw, each covered two years and there did not appear to be any owner distributions. Whether or not owners that worked for the teams as CEO or other executive positions were taking a salary, you couldn’t tell. But I imagine they were although DK has reported that Nutting hasn’t.

  152. Arriba Wilver says:


  153. Dom says:

    I thought that was what 21 was getting at.

  154. 21sthebest says:

    I really wasn’t on that topic Dom.

  155. Dom says:

    I remember reading that Bud Selig, his daughter, and son in law, all took a salary when they worked for the Brew Crew but that totaled much less than a million a year. I think the three withdrew a total of $6 million or so in salary in a decade’s time.

  156. Maybe they’ll keep Travis until the trade deadline July 31st when someone drastically needs him, then bring up Polanco. He’ll be managing short-season A-ball by then.

  157. Very frugal of them.

  158. Dom says:

    Oh, sorry.

  159. JohninOshkosh says:

    Does McGuire have a serious chance to become GM ? Getting conflicting information. Starkey writes a column, but others saying it is a publicity ploy.

    And shouldn’t some reporter somewhere have a credible source that can say whether or not he will be hired ?

    It seems to me that this information is almost always leaked anywhere from hours to days ahead of the hiring announcement presser.

  160. JohninOshkosh says:

    These are questions to the group. Not for Dejan’s chat.

  161. 21sthebest says:

    The thing about not taking a salary, if you’re providing services to a company as a CEO for example and not taking a salary, the IRS still wants their share of payroll taxes.

  162. Arriba Wilver says:

    All (or most) of the reporters thought Bylsma was fired.

  163. Dom says:

    I don’t understand why some think interviewing Pierre McGuire would be a PR ploy. What do the Pens get out of it?

  164. Arriba Wilver says:

    I think the PR is coming from McGuire’s camp, Dom.

  165. Dom says:

    How much could they take out of a $0 salary?

    Do they take the standard CEO salary of the industry and have the Pirates pay taxes on that?

  166. JohninOshkosh says:

    Argument is that it is a publicity ploy by McGuire, Dom. Not the Pens. Can’t say I agree with that assessment. Job interviews are like the suckiest thing in the world. Have to be a damn fool to go through two of them just to get talked about.

  167. Dom says:

    Then what is the Pens logic for interviewing him if they don’t deem him to be a candidate?

  168. Jim S. says:

    I didn’t read that quote from Charlie, but it’s priceless. That pretty much sums it up. He does have great stuff. Unfortunately, a lot of nights he can’t quite harness it. We need more than 5 innings from him, especially after only Cole got out of the 6th the last time through the rotation. Charlie was just under 100 pitches through 5, with 3 hits, 3 walks and 3 HBP allowed. 9 base runners in 5 innings is not good.

    Last year, Charlie went through a nice stretch where he harnessed the control and was zipping through 7 innings pretty frequently, with pitch counts at 100 or so, as I recall. I don’t think he’s far from that right now. He seems tantalizingly close to being absolutely dominant right now. Pitching is hard.

  169. Jim S. says:

    +++, AW.

  170. Jim S. says:

    Maybe a courtesy from a friend (Mario). I’m hoping it is nothing more than a looksie.

  171. Dom says:

    If that’s the case, what happens if the Pens offer PM the job? Will he decline after wasting their time with two pointless interviews?

  172. 21sthebest says:

    That would be how it’s done Dom. You’d look at what’s reasonable in the industry. Whether or not the Pirates are doing that is not known. And it’s not a definite that they would need to.

  173. Jandy says:

    I tend to agree with you Oshie. I don’t think it’s a stunt. But I do hope he isn’t the next GM. Scout, fine. GM, no.

    Did you see my link up above about Rihanna, Oshie??? I had you in mind when I posted it.

  174. Dom says:

    That doesnt seem fair to me.

  175. JohninOshkosh says:

    It’s baffling. Maybe, Mario did it out of courtesy. But, two interviews? Everybody knows that the second interview for any position means you are a legitimate finalist.

    Or, maybe Lemieux, et al, and PM are acting as a smokescreen ? Very weird.

  176. Andrew says:

    Same exact thought came to my mind Nate.

    So much of drafting and player projection is realize the limits of you knowledge, and don’t get thrown off by ancillary information.

  177. JohninOshkosh says:

    Thanks, Jandy! RiRi !

    Fine. Very fine. Barbados accent. Fuhgeddaboudit !

  178. Jandy says:

    LOL! :D

  179. Milo Hamilton says:

    Maybe they secretly hired Botterill like a week ago & they’re just not telling anybody. Sorry, the Pirates have warped my view on everything.

  180. Andrew says:

    That at bat was an illustration of the silliness of “expanding the strike zone” with runners on base.

  181. Naterosboro says:


    It was a couple paragraphs into Rob B.’s game story from last night. Classic Charlie.

  182. Jandy says:

    Can I buy a vowel?

  183. Andrew says:

    So the William Jennings Bryan of our time?

  184. JohninOshkosh says:

    Remember when Dejan had the podcast commentary about trust last year at the NHL trade deadline ? How people seemed to trust the Pens over, say, the Pirates ?

    That good will and trust seems to have evaporated.

  185. Jandy says:

    +++ I’d say you’re right.

  186. Andrew says:

    Agreed Poole just find talent and put it on the ice. We can discuss character, grit, and heaviness all day, but the next GM has a simple task, improve the depth of the Penguins. It is hard to win playoff games with just two lines, build a third line that can do something well, so Crosby’s line doesn’t have to be deployed like a checking line so much.

  187. Arriba Wilver says:

    Sorry, Dom. I’m at the end of my understanding after the narrow PR question you posed.

  188. Thundercrack says:

    I had heard that they may be interviewing him to pick his brain. He seems to know everyone in the NHL – – including the guys that are assistant GMs around the league (and are also getting interviews)

  189. Andrew says:

    Who knows how this rumor started, it would be interesting to trace it back to the original sources.

    It would make a nice case study in mass hysteria, a divisive unqualified figure is to lead an organization with a severely disaffected fan base.

  190. Andrew says:

    I tend to think trust is a byproduct of winning.

  191. Thundercrack says:

    If the Branson / Hurdle approach is ‘don’t swing at balls way out of the strike zone’ then I’m all for it. And hopefully it won’t take Marte too long to get used to it.

  192. Thundercrack says:

    Is this the narrative again today?

    Sorry, I just had to say that after everything that went on yesterday. I wanted to be the first to direct the debate/narrative. Even though I am not even sure what that means.

  193. JohninOshkosh says:

    Can’t that be done over the phone or Skype ? My understanding is that he physically went to Pittsburgh. Why do the show pony bit if it’s only about consultation ?

  194. Maz in Iowa says:

    Time to stir the pot!Who goes when Stolmy returns?

  195. Jim S. says:

    +++, Milo.

  196. JohninOshkosh says:

    ++++ Agreed.

    That was one of Dejan’s finest, most contemplative commentaries, by the way.

    Sorry, too lazy/busy to find the link!

  197. 21sthebest says:


  198. Jim S. says:

    I still say it’s the Asst GM from the Hawks. Norm MacIver. Just a hunch.

    Plus, a side benefit is he’d be able to fashion make shift weapons out of just about anything. Oops, maybe that was MacGyver.

  199. Could be a couple weeks off. One 2-inning outing against a 12-43 High-A team is a good start, but probably more work to do.

    That said, my vote goes to Gomez.

  200. Jim S. says:

    I like it. He sounds like he fits right in with the brain trust. Speaking the lingo.

  201. Maz in Iowa says:

    Maybe Gomez?

  202. Jim S. says:

    Sadler would be the one with the options, other than Hughes. And, the big dude is currently pitching his butt off.

  203. Maz in Iowa says:

    We know Sadler has options.Not sure about Gomez.Hey …a little help about please.I’d like to continue the “narrative.

  204. Thundercrack says:

    It could be any of the guys with options left.
    Could be Hughes if he doesn’t continue to pitch well. What if Cumpton gets rocked a few more times?

  205. No, he doesn’t. Only the CL or release for him.

  206. DFA I should say. If nobody will claim Vin, I doubt anyone would grab Jeanmar. But, who knows, he can start, right?


  207. Maz in Iowa says:

    For everything I’ve heard about Polanco,one of the great things I,ve garnered is he has a great attitude(mostly from Rene Gayo).He wants to learn and is very coachable.I hope he is seen with guys like Cutch and Martin….a LOT!

  208. Jim S. says:

    You would think Miami would grab Jeanmar. They just gave us a draft pick for Morris, and they also signed Gregg. They must be hurting for bullpen arms.

  209. Think they’ll grab Vin? Texas took Phil Irwin.

  210. Nate83 says:

    Somehow the Pirates now find themselves with some flexibility with the pitching staff. With Vin gone and Morris gone they now have players with options left to bring up and down. This flexibility will be nice going forward and I don’t think they reduced the talent on the team all that much. All things considered I would rather have Vin instead of Gomez but who knows how it all plays out. Maybe Gomez pitches closer to his 2013 stats from here on out.

  211. Jandy says:


  212. Nate83 says:

    They are trying to give their fans the illusion they are trying without giving up much to get something that will actually make them better. They know they came to the party a year or two early and without Fernandez they don’t have much of a chance. That being said finishing close to .500 or above will give them something to build on for next year.

  213. Milo Hamilton says:


  214. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  215. Jandy says:

    And the chat is rolling…first question is about Pierre McGuire and bridges ;)

  216. Botherhood of the Redus says:

    yeah i have to eat my words on Hughes from a while back. He looks focused and healthy.

  217. Tom P. says:

    I remember writing a paper about him in 8th grade or so.

  218. Jandy says:


  219. Maz in Iowa says:

    Maybe they hurry up and trade Gomez for another draft pick ala Morris?How’s that sound?Everybody in with that?


    (because NOW is not nearly as important as 6-7 seasons from NOW)

  221. Karen22 says:

    Hey, you two! Get a room!


  222. Jandy says:

    Don’t be hatin’ Temptress:P

  223. Milo Hamilton says:

    Chad Hermansen.

  224. Or would you bring him up on a sellout date when all those fans in attendance could rush right over to the ticket windows at the stadium where they already are and buy tickets for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday?!

  225. toochca says:

    Mel Rojas Jr was promoted last night to AAA. I interpreted that move as “The Polanco arrival will be soon”.

    I saw the move announced later in the game on Root sports. One of the advantages to living on the West Coast!

  226. Andrew says:

    Travis Snider?

  227. Jim S. says:

    Sling Blade! mmm-hmm.

  228. Karen22 says:

    Hatin’? That was a lovin’ comment, silly! ;)

  229. buggee says:

    Is the pointy-head a genetic anomoly?

  230. Jandy says:

    Then it’s all good, lady :D

  231. Jandy says:

    buggeeeee!!!! Ask the lil wifelet that question ;)

  232. toochca says:

    Mel Rojas Jr was promoted last night to AAA. I interpreted that move as “The Polanco arrival will be soon”.

    I saw the move announced later in the game on Root sports. One of the advantages to living on the West Coast!

  233. buggee says:

    june 6, 3 pm

  234. Maz in Iowa says:

    Actually Rojas has already played 2 games for Indy.One in CF and the other as DH.Chris Dickerson has also been hurt… there will likely be other moves made by Indy.

  235. Maz in Iowa says:

    Oops make that 3 games,Sorry

  236. toochca says:

    Thanks Maz!


    Pierre McGuire reminds me of Sam ‘Ace’ Rothstein’s character (played by Robert DeNiro) from the movie “Casino”: he’s the kind of guy who prides himself on knowing the obscure facts, the deep stats, and the little bits of trivia that each player brings to the table. Rothstein was great behind the scenes, but the flaws in his character were quickly exposed when he got put out in front and it all came crashing down around him as a result.

    From what I’ve seen of McGuire, and what I’ve read from Joe Starkey’s column, it sounds like McGuire could run into the same problems. Further, with so many critical decisions to be made in short order, and with expectations that the team remain a contender next season, I don’t think the Penguins can afford to bring in a GM with no experience in that domain.

  238. buggee says:

    ROFL JandyLion. solid, snappy retort!

  239. Jandy says:


  240. Stlrfanrc (Ryan) says:

    One thing I noticed most from the box score was that all 3 pinch hitters got a hit.

    That’s pretty impressive

  241. Jim S. says:

    I don’t think the Penguins would go through with a Pierre McGuire hire. They have to know that decision would be almost universally crushed by their fan base. Now, I’m not saying a team should make all of it’s operating decisions by consulting directly with the fan base. But, this just seems like such a reach that would p*ss off everybody, and the Pens don’t operate that way. Doesn’t make any sense to me. I guess stranger things have happened, but I don’t see it.

  242. Maz in Iowa says:

    This from the San Diego paper” Jesse Hahn, a promising right-hander on a pitch and innings limit, will make his big-league debut in a spot start for the Padres. No matter how well the 24-year-old pitches, he is unlikely to go much more than five innings”. Hopefully the Pirates will still have their hitting shoes on

  243. Jandy says:

    That makes tons of sense to me, Jim

  244. Milo Hamilton says:

    How promising are you when you’re 24 and haven’t even seen triple A yet ?

  245. Jandy says:

    Well, if you’ve pretty much exhausted your pitching, I guess you’re pretty promising.

  246. Jim S. says:

    I was thinking that assessment was a bit optimistic, too.

  247. Maz in Iowa says:

    Sounds like a fastball pitcher.Maybe Pedro/Marte can have good games.I’m beginning to agree with others that maybe a week or so in the resort city of Indy will help Marte.

  248. JohninOshkosh says:

    Maybe the delay in naming the Pens GM is because Pierre has to catch a flight from LAX to PIT ?


  249. Jim S. says:

    Wasn’t Hebner #20 and #3 in his Bucs career?

  250. Milo Hamilton says:

    Jim Rutherford has interviewed for the Pens GM opening.

  251. 21sthebest says:


  252. Dom says:

    ANOTHER great 2010 draft pick. That has the potential of being the greatest Pirates draft of all time.

  253. Jim S. says:

    I’ll say this for him, he better be throwing strikes. The Padres need innings tonight. I hope the Bucs work him to death.

  254. casper in a-town says:

    Good afternoon, all. I submitted a question to the chat today and it was accepted. Woo hoo!

    For those of you who may have read my question and DK’s answer, I wanted to clarify my question and his response, as I may have incorrectly paraphrased him. In my question, I said “Several weeks ago, after your sit-down with Messrs. Lemieux and Burkle, you said that you have complete trust in them and that we should too.” Today, he correctly pointed out that my statement was probably off the mark a bit. In his response to my question, he said “To clear one thing up, I never wrote — or thought — that you should have trust in anyone. I don’t ever suggest things like that to readers. I’ll share with you what I think, but I won’t presume it’s what you should think.

    DK’s actually statement in his post back when he sat down with Messrs. Lemieux and Burkle was “I trust these two men. Always have. And I strongly suspect once you read what they have to say, others will, too.” I simply wanted to post this today because one of the pet peeves I have on this or any other blog is when posters misquote or misinterpret someone else’s comment. As such, I stand corrected and simply wanted to make the record clear. I misquoted and this is my mea culpa.

    Have a great day.

  255. Jim S. says:

    That’s a tough job. It always amazes me when guys are willing to start over in a high stress job at his age (65). He must have tons of energy. He and Andy Brown are the earliest Pens goalies I remember from my youth.

  256. Jandy says:

    I had the pleasure of seeing Rojas in Altoona several times last season. And it was a pleasure. He was very good.

  257. Jandy says:

    No need for a mea culpa. Honest misinterpretation. But he did give a good answer.

  258. casper in a-town says:

    Thanks, Jandy. I appreciate that. Credibility, however, is one quality that I strive to maintain on a daily basis. I think it’s an important trait on a personal level and also one that my line of work requires on a daily basis. I don’t monkey with that. I believe when you’re wrong, I strongly believe that you should acknowledge it on your own and not simply hope that it falls through the cracks.

  259. Milo Hamilton says:

    Me too. Remember the 3rd guy at that time ? Cam Newton.

  260. Jandy says:

    Oh believe you, I agree. Same with my line of work. And if I’m wrong, I already think of a solution or two if I’ve created a problem as well BEFORE I go to my boss. I don’t try to hide the blame or put it on someone else.

  261. casper in a-town says:

    Amen, sister!

  262. Milo Hamilton says:

    Then I suggest you admit the mistake of taking a picture with that stupid bird. :)

  263. casper in a-town says:

    Ha! It is somewhat comical. But truly Milo, what has been more constant, more steadfast throughout the years, than that bird? At least when it comes to the Bucs. You can always rely on the Parrot. He brings it every night regardless. He doesn’t get distracted by Super 2, free agency, qualifying offers, trades, drafts or RISP. He just brings it.

  264. Andrew says:

    The Marlins and Jeffry Loria folks,

    “On Monday, the Marlins signed free agent reliever Kevin Gregg, giving him the pro-rated portion of a $2.1 million salary for 2014. Because the deal only covers the final two-thirds of the season, he’ll receive $1.4 million in actual salary from the Marlins this year. Not coincidentally, $1.4 million is exactly the amount of money the Marlins saved by giving away the 39th pick in the draft.

    The idea that the Marlins, a team that opened the year with a payroll of just $47.5 million, had to offset the acquisition cost of Kevin Gregg by punting a valuable draft choice is patently ridiculous. Let us count the ways.”

  265. Jandy says:


  266. Jandy says:

    He’s a very good peckerhead ;)

  267. Easy, Milo. That’s his brother in that costume.

    BTW, Cam Newton? I remember Rutherford and Brown, but Cam Newton?

  268. Milo Hamilton says:

    And the kids love him. Contrary to popular belief, I’m not a mascot hater. Only when they block my view of the game.

  269. Thanks, Milo.

    Interesting career. Started it with the Toronto Marlboros and ended it with the Chesterfield Kings. Got smoked in between.

    Truly, he did have some longevity, albeit through several levels and he ends up with an excellent QB named after him. (highly unlikely).

  270. Milo Hamilton says:

    :) That’s gotta be the line of the year.

    See, Pittsburgh had the original Frank Thomas & the original Cam Newton.

  271. Milo,

    I intentionally left Chad Hermansen off my list above. [I have his baseball card staring at me right now on my desk. He and Brad Eldred are always there to encourage me.]

    I did not any vestige of Chad Hermansen mentioned around Gregory Polanco.

    I’m NOT superstitious, but just in case I’m wrong . . . . . . .

  272. Jim S. says:

    What? Cam Newton? No, I don’t.

  273. Jim S. says:

    Here’s an exciting factoid for you from those teams. Jean Pronovost’s son and family live a street over from me. He came to visit one time, and somehow I found an old trading card of him from when I was a kid. He and Syl Apps were my favorite players when I was first watching hockey. I sent my son over to show it to him. He signed it and sent it back.

  274. Jandy says:

    now that’s cool :)

  275. Milo Hamilton says:

    I have a Syl Apps t-shirt. It’s amazing how many people ask who that is.

  276. Jim S. says:

    Syl Apps was great. Those were some high scoring teams the Pens had in those days.

  277. Dom says:

    What they’re forgetting is that the Marlins are taking in more money by having Bryon Morris on the team.

  278. 21sthebest says:

    I used to go to Penguins clinics at the Schenley Park Ice Skating rink. I remember Apps being there.

  279. NMR says:

    “How promising are you when you’re 24 and haven’t even seen triple A yet ?”

    College draft pick that has already lost a year to TJS. Only has two full years of pro ball under his belt.

  280. NMR says:

    He’s only thrown 5 innings once this year. Gonna get into the pen quickly…but he also might strike out 7 or 8 guys before that happens. Legit fastball and breaking ball.

  281. NMR says:

    No, they’re not. Bryan Morris is pre-arb, making league minimum.

  282. NMR says:

    Ha, love it Groat.

  283. Bizrow says:

    Too late, Groaty ;-)

  284. Poole says:

    Jim Rutherford, really? I don’t particularly like his body of work in Carolina despite the year they won the cup. And he’s getting senior discounts at Bojangles. Rather role the dice on one of these young up and comers with new approaches and mindsets.

    To this point it sounds like there have been a lot of people interviewed. Pierre is just a sideshow… he is buddy buddy with Mario so maybe hes helping Pierre gain credibility for another GM job in the future.

    I don’t know why everyone (including myself) is so captivated in this whole #GMwatch. I think its just a testament to the passionate fan base ready for change. I likely will not know much about the new GM other than some short bio online. But I am very excited for change and seeing some moves made.

    The Pens are in a situation new to me as a Pittsburgh fan. The Pirates were always in full rebuild mode and 5 year plan and all of that. We are closer to the cup than most teams and need to remain so in the short term…so we should tread lightly. But I think the next few years looks pretty grim without significant personnel changes.

  285. Cmat0829 says:

    I’m pretty sure revenues are shared I haven’t idea if the net profits you indicate are correct. My point is that making the playoffs is a goal that should have nothing to do with money.

  286. Cmat0829 says:

    Nutting’s fault.

  287. Arriba Wilver says:

    Pretty sure your point yesterday was that the Bucs making the playoffs last year didn’t add anything to their coffers, or at least was negligible, but let’s go with the goal should always be the playoffs.

    So, we still don’t have an answer. I’d be very surprised in the dog eat dog world of MLB that teams in the playoffs didn’t make more money than they would have not making the playoffs. But, anything’s possible in Bud’s league.

  288. Dom says:

    Do you not have to pay that league minimum?

  289. Cmat0829 says:

    My point yesterday had nothing to do with last year. I think though sometimes it’s hard to follow that this was in the middle of a polanco should be here already debate and my retort was that playoff money as in making ths playoffs this year money is overrated in this debate. and that is what I believe. As to it’s shared I’m pretty sure the media money is shared and major league teams always share the gate so I do not think the playoff teams get huge swaths of money. But who really knows.

  290. Thundercrack says:

    I think he is making $512K this year. But the Pirates have already paid two months of that.

    So the Marlins will pay about $341K….and not have to spend that higher amount on the draft to sign a pick they just traded away.


  291. Arriba Wilver says:

    21 did see the financials he referred to.

  292. Arriba Wilver says:

    But you’re right, it was in the middle of that debate. My bad on the interpretation.

  293. Thundercrack says:

    Snider is in right field tonight. Maybe this is the beginning of his farewell tour

  294. Maz in Iowa says:

    Harrison in LF.Marte sitting

  295. Thundercrack says:

    Maybe it will be the beginning and the end of the tour

  296. Where did you get that lineup? 24/7 hasn’t Tweeted it yet.

  297. Maz in Iowa says:

    mlb starting line ups

  298. Maz in Iowa says:

    Josh Harrison LF
    Neil Walker 2B
    Andrew McCutchen CF
    Ike Davis 1B
    Russell Martin C
    Pedro Alvarez 3B
    Travis Snider RF
    Jordy Mercer SS
    (Gerrit Cole

  299. Thundercrack says:

    This must be one of those games that Clint wants Marte to sit next to him on the bench….and keep Harrison’s bat in the lineup

  300. I know Starling Marte needs to sit and gather his thoughts . . . .

    . . . . but any line-up that has both Josh Harrison and Travis Snider in the same outfield makes me extremely nervous.

    I hope McCutch wears his track shoes tonight!

  301. Bizrow says:

    I still think Marte is suffering from the OMG, I’m making so much, syndrome.

    And I still believe he will grow into his status

  302. Bizrow says:

    I think Tabata went/is still going thru the same thing

  303. Bizrow says:

    And, that being said, I think Tabata is the one that will be cleaning out his locker, the PBC has money to spend and some will be leaving with him. A righty/lefty bench thing.

  304. Maz in Iowa says:

    Does that mean he has to chew 1/2 lb of bubble gum like Hurdle?

  305. Arriba Wilver says:

    You’re so cute, Rev. You follow 24/7’s Tweets.


  306. Maz in Iowa says:

    I was thinking the same thing

  307. Arriba Wilver says:

    It means he has to

    1. get with the program,
    2. get his head in the game and
    3. quit thinking about his 401k.

  308. It’s baseball. That’s the only reason. And I’ve never been accused of being “cute”.


  309. Let ‘em both go.

    21, where are you?

  310. Arriba Wilver says:

    I hate when other teams bring up somebody from AA to pitch against us. Don’t have the stats, but it seems like a lot of times that doesn’t work out so good for the Bucs.

  311. Thundercrack says:

    It’s funny you mentioned that Rev, I got the lineup from the Pirates tweet. And then I looked (at a red light) and it looked to me that everyone else had tweeted out the lineup before 24/7. And I don’t think he has yet ( is he or Travis covering the game?)

  312. Bizrow says:

    There is a lot of stuff these kids have to learn to deal with, especially those from Latin America.

    They have hit the lottery and I’m not talking the daily number ;-)

  313. The Gunner says:


    Although Tabata has improved this year, it all comes down to the financial statements for the BMTIB. I think Tabby will be the one to go, too.

  314. Yeah and he’s “capable” of throwing 90 pitches per Bud Black. Hope he hits that in the second inning.

  315. Bizrow says:

    ++++ and a flame thrower to boot

  316. He showed a beautiful view of the stadium from his hotel room yesterday, so I assume he’s still there worrying how long the game will go tonight.

  317. The Gunner says:


    On the subject of pitch counts and lasting 2 innings, our boy Morton didn’t make 7 last night and was quite lucky to make it thru 5. He threw 98 pitches thru 5 innings – not very good command for young Charles.

  318. He re-tweeted Earth Pictures, a beautiful picture of Australia, but no lineups. Maybe he whined enough and they let him fly home.

  319. Bizrow says:

    Money will go with him too, Gunner, but he has more upside than Travis and is a better chip to deal.

    Heck when that fellow, I forget his name, comes up, the PBC pretty much has 3 players that can deal with any outfield slot.

    I’ll have to ask Groaty what his name is…..

  320. I thought he might go 7, Gunner, at first. We’re going to need every pitcher here and in Indy if this keeps up.

    Cole should give us a solid outing in that big park. And JRay is gonna be there, so Cole will shine.

  321. Bizrow says:

    As I was going to the opening day game thru parking at RIVERS CASINO, I swear to this day, I saw 24-7, leaving the park while looking at his cell phone on the way down the steps to the station

  322. Bizrow says:

    New thread up

  323. The Gunner says:

    It would be nice to see Cole dominate the Padres tonight. His last few outings have bordered on sloppy but he has been winning. The starting pitchers really need to go deeper into games and the reinforcements from Indy & Altoona will definitely get their chances.

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